[Edit: Bro said TYBW Grimmjow my b LOL!!] After watching this, please check out my first short film (kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4XCnZiYd76kf68) and let me know what you think!! Thanks
@hollow13532 жыл бұрын
Alright!
@AGSAzH2 жыл бұрын
I loved it! Love your content!
@MonkeyCookieClicker2 жыл бұрын
I love Lelouche. but character development wise, Zuko takes it all without a shred of a doubt. honestly, his character arc was peak
@pokeballblaze98352 жыл бұрын
9:17 stop the Sakura slander tbh i don't entirely like her but she is not useless one could argue that as off right now in the series in Boruto she is top 10 along with being stronger than 8 gates guy in Shippuden she was boxing with a 3 rinnegan Kaguya and broke her bones(horns are bones) and drew her blood while she was on guard while it took guy literally using a suicide technique to even begin to harm one rinnegan sage of six paths Madara who was way weaker than Kaguya also Goku in base is beyond universal he is clapping them all up they just had this animation drawn out for entertainment purposes great video though
@goofy25x2 жыл бұрын
Bro with who the weakest on the list tatsumaki is up there she fought s character who literally split a continent in half and she still won
@brandonadrien34762 жыл бұрын
"Can Goku defeat ALL of Naruto?" I am insulted... that you think we need to waste Goku's time like that. Call another Z Warrior and make this a filler episode.
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
LOL!!
@Mrdinomist2 жыл бұрын
can krillin solo
@RyanGFC2 жыл бұрын
@@Mrdinomist yes
@h4nnnanW2 жыл бұрын
Tru but the disrespect 💀
@fightingdreamer86812 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@PolyChromium2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to character development, I'd still put Zuko on top. Out of all of them, he's the one with the biggest and most pronounced natural changes (in my eyes at least). Sure, Vegeta learnt to become a family man, and Light and Sasuke's downwards spirals were cool to watch, but seeing Zuko go from someone fuelled by rage and a desire to regain honour in his father's eyes, to someone who allows love and self-respect back into his life, all the improvements and relapses along the way, that's why he has to go at the top for me Edit: Just read Vinland Saga. nvm, Thorfinn's got the best development.
@haimoo77572 жыл бұрын
Over manga thorfinn?
@PolyChromium2 жыл бұрын
@@haimoo7757 I haven't read it yet, so I can't say much about him. It's on the list though
@nani42492 жыл бұрын
I've got zuko on the top simply because the fact that it is realist it is, and how the other characters pin off him. They treated him realistically with suspicion then slowly warmed up to him. While a character like Vegeta has the opposite direction, for his development too happen, everyone has to be rewritten differently to cater to his development. Zuko development is realist and that's why he is the most and best developed character
@Aubreeon2 жыл бұрын
Zuko and Vegeta are literally the same in terms of development but Vegeta’s was arguably better when you look at him being a tyrant that destroys planets for Frieza to being a loving father and husband
@TheYousif2 жыл бұрын
TBH if it was Z vegeta he'd be top 3 in my opinion, but super vegeta's development was held back too much, same thing with every other character.
@aaronthomas2983 Жыл бұрын
The green bull statement did NOT age well😂😭
@SqueakHaki9 ай бұрын
Bro got absolutely violated by Wifi Haki 💀
@tobilobaayetan31837 ай бұрын
Bro got told to sit down by shanks and complied💀
@aotisnotamasterpiece18802 жыл бұрын
Man i love this series. Keep making these atleast once a month, i would appreciate it including many others.
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'll try!!
@aotisnotamasterpiece18802 жыл бұрын
@ᗪⴺᗉ⟝ℍ ℕO⟝Ꭼ so we meet again huh
@Fritz96722 жыл бұрын
@cosmic garou and saitama don't beat goku You have a W name but an L opinion, so you're neutral
@googoongga2 жыл бұрын
Goku is able to suppress himself enough to not one shot regular people. I think that is actually an accurate representation of base Goku suppressing himself so he doesn't kill them. Don't underestimate his control over his power
@dragonitekai7462 жыл бұрын
Ikr thats what im tryna say ppl are saying goku would kill tjem one punch thats the problem goku doswnt kill unless he ABSOLUTELY HAS TO and he dosent has to here so yeah makes sense why sakura didnt die immediately
@audreysim10402 жыл бұрын
Fax. For real I was spending time wondering about this because I know if we are talking base super goku he wouldn't be pushed back as easily and I was thinking the only two answers available and they are: This is base dragon ball z goku or super before goku got god ki and yhe second possibility is that he is suppressing himself heavily
@audreysim10402 жыл бұрын
And I mean pre frieza saga goku
@ImPowerAngel2 жыл бұрын
If Goku ain't have control the Universe would be gone everytime he fights 💀
@ImPowerAngel2 жыл бұрын
@@audreysim1040 don't matter what version of Goku it is as long as it's above sayain Saga
@ThatGuyWithNoLife2 жыл бұрын
17:42 It was stated in the Anime that Gecko moria prime was fighting kaido and actually was putting in work, but still ended up losing.
@KON8532 жыл бұрын
I don't know man, Base grimmjow in the arrancar arc realeased a Gran Rey Cero which was so powerful it distorted the atmosphere and and warped space so much that it even opened Garganta for a little bit. And the Ichigo while hollowfied tanked Grimmjows Desgarron which is grimmjows strongest attack. Grimmjow should easily be in the top 5 conversation, IMO at least.
@baller13522 жыл бұрын
And imagine but those feats but If he's stronger
@KON8532 жыл бұрын
@@baller1352 yeah and this is TYBW Grimmjow who's leaps and bounds ahead of his Arrancar arc self.
@shrekisloveshrekislive20902 жыл бұрын
Top 3 at least (idk fire force and Fairy tail that well maybe nr1)
@Martialspirit1712 жыл бұрын
“Distorting the atmosphere” and “warping space” such vague and exaggerated words don’t scale him anywhere. His actual quantifiable feats in Las Nochas caps his powerlevel at country-continental and he didn’t even scale to this considering it came from 2nd release Ulquiorra who was stronger than him at the time. Anyways stop overrating mid-tier Bleach fodder like Grimmjow Tatsumaki speedblitzes and stomps the entire Espada into a different century
@revenantronin83772 жыл бұрын
@@Martialspirit171 you're actually sad. I won't even try to waste my brain cells trying to debate this nonsense. This is the objective fact. Tatsumaki is getting sealed (Caja negacion) and never seeing the light of day, Grimmjow alone would do this and he wouldn't even need to unsheathe his sword or take his hands out his pocket, it would be a blitz. She would never see him coming (assuming she even has spiritual awareness), and that's just one Espada. He has her beat in every stat *consistently* (I could "quantify" this, from speed to durability and everything in-between, I just won't be wasting my time on you), plus he actually has more lethal hax than her.
@Problemsolver4342 жыл бұрын
First guy just ignored Whitebeard treating Yonko like kids. Blowing out Akainu's magma like it's a candle. Sure, Akainu was strong enough to wound Whitebeard after Whitebeard had been hurt, old and sick for long. And Whitebeard still beat the crap out of him. The day two admirals display enough Haki to split the skies, I'm going to start believing they can take the yonko
@warriorofthegrandline2y6182 жыл бұрын
As weird as this sounds that is true Akainu did not use his awakening
@randomperson1301 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but you disrespected akainu, in the manga akainu destroyed half of whitebeards face and akainu wasnt nearly as damaged.
@isaiah892 Жыл бұрын
@@randomperson1301 and akainu still got his ass beat by a dying whitebeard lol
@randomperson1301 Жыл бұрын
@@isaiah892 in the manga whitebeards hits barely even affected akainu while akainu was blasting holes through white beard
@AizenSosukeHeavens Жыл бұрын
@StatikTiger the anime isn’t canon period. In the manga Whitebeard snuck Akainu and only landed two decent blows. Even in the anime Akainu recovered from the blows like they were nothing
@lukeeatschicken2 жыл бұрын
Just made my day 😁 Your videos are way too underrated when I found your channel I would have expected you had at least 500k subscribers because your contents quality is that of someone with that subscriber count
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that so much, glad you're here!!
@ShalidKidow2 жыл бұрын
Best character for sure goes to Zuko, lelouch was great but Zukos development as a character is so much better
@vuild66352 жыл бұрын
And Thorfinn character development is even better😂 there’s a reason why everyone considers him top 3
@chickenclapper27482 жыл бұрын
I dunno if you’ve read Vinland saga, but Thorfinn’s character development is crazy!
@vuild66352 жыл бұрын
@@chickenclapper2748 ong that’s what I’m sayin too😭
@JayXEditzz2 жыл бұрын
Man, it's been a while since we had a hot takes video I'm definitely going to sit back and enjoy it.
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy!!
@ninjastorm5402 жыл бұрын
For the second one: I wouldn't say Zuko is the best character on the list but he is the choice for best character development on that list. He had a full blown journey of finding himself and changing his character against everything he's known. He went against his own nation by the end. I really think his growth was the best.
@Fritz96722 жыл бұрын
This is literally can be applied to almost everyone on that list
@ThatOneGuy___2 жыл бұрын
Thorfinn in the manga had an insane character development, my guy switched up his method of thinking and the way he deals with certain situations.
@mistercreep20022 жыл бұрын
"green bull, who's on his way to wano, is gonna be op, i garantee you" shanks at a distance of some kilometers away: *leak a bit of conqueror haki* Greenbull: RUNS AWAY FOR HIS LIFE
@solenyadnapa81912 жыл бұрын
Lelouch did play different characters but he was the same from beginning to end .that's why I love ma boy ...sure he changed his strategy but his mindset was to create a safer world for his sister..zuko actually changed his perspective
@projectmessiah2 жыл бұрын
26:50 actually I'm like 99% sure Rock Lee said himself that he was saving the 8 gates for his chunin fight with Neji which would imply he hasn't used it against him yet. Also while I am on Nejis side here to play devils advocate a bit Rock Lee still never actually made Gaara bleed in the end of their fight, you know who did, Sasuke.
@David.A2 жыл бұрын
Gaara had extreme plot armor that fight Rock Lee would've put him to sleep.
@rustynuts36972 жыл бұрын
@@David.A It doesn’t matter if it’s plot armor or not what was shown still happened.
@David.A2 жыл бұрын
@@rustynuts3697 True
@longusmitchell98982 жыл бұрын
@@David.A name some plot armor? rock lee did no damage that fight it was admirable but he didn't damage Gaara at all he was punching sand the whole time
@David.A2 жыл бұрын
@@longusmitchell9898 "No damage" he broke gaara's sand shield a feat no one else had done except for the 4th kazekage. He delivered multiple blows on Gaara. He opened five gates against rock lee he should've won in my opinion.
@PeakSight-kv6wi Жыл бұрын
“Greenbull is going to be op”famous last words.
@dodobird22542 жыл бұрын
You know this is gonna be a fire vid🔥🔥🔥
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
Yessir!
@dodobird22542 жыл бұрын
@@ShonenShowdown hot takes of anime is 🔥
@latestpunjabisongsdjpunjab5583 Жыл бұрын
3:59 woww where is this guy now talking about green bull😂😂😂😂
@baloogathewale2 жыл бұрын
TYBW Grimjow (which is what he was referring to) is beating Tornado. He was able to rip Askin's (who is a royal guard) heart out. He is most def one of the stronger ones on that list
@andrewstanford4071 Жыл бұрын
greenbull being yonko level rlly aged well when shank hit him with conquerors lolol
@mohamedkoussaydridi73852 жыл бұрын
Great vid man and I agree with 99% of the points you made. Just a slight correction tho, jellal in the manga is stronger than erza and on par with laxus who defeated erza with natsu, gray and irene enhanced swords without going into dragon force and fighting few opponents beforehand and even with all that is still nerfed cuz the one controlling him nerfed everyone so she's able to force top wizards like jellal and laxus and grimjow in tybw is stronger that ulquiorra
@maj1nprince2 жыл бұрын
If all of the pre-ts Yonko (WB, BM, Kaido, and Shanks) and their crews/fleets collaborated to take down the Marines, it's hard for me to believe that the later would stop them. In terms of 1v1s, however, it's definitely all about who's matched up against who.
@xavierwalker64702 жыл бұрын
I'm still laughing at the fact Green Bull thought he could have defeated an alliance that took down two yonko
@easymoneyrad2 жыл бұрын
The face he made When kakashi and goku clashed was hilarious. Same reaction “whAt, yall niggas trippin”
@chefdatboird36172 жыл бұрын
The bleach disrespect is insane on this one. Grimjow doesn’t even exist in the same plane of existence as everyone else on the list. Like 90% of the attacks in bleach target the soul so grimjow literally only needs to land 1 attack to kill majority of the list and I don’t see anyone on this list getting up from a full powered cero from a transformed grimjow, and if I really wanted to I could mention how literally grimjow’s spiritual pressure alone finishes everyone on this list
@yest58142 жыл бұрын
Fr grimjow can break through dimensions
@goodhomeslice6332 жыл бұрын
Bro, read the comment he sent
@ManLikeAizen2 жыл бұрын
He dint read TYBW that's y he thinks Grimjow is the weakest
@blade58712 жыл бұрын
to be fair he did correct himself but wasnt tybw grimmjow as strong if not stronger than dangai ichigo?
@KON8532 жыл бұрын
@@blade5871 not dangai but Fullbring Bankai. And that's no big down grade. Fullbring Bankai Ichigo is stronger than Ulquiorra in Segunda etapa.
@fakeangel96412 жыл бұрын
the character development one was so crazy what was that
@TheIzzyHolloway2 жыл бұрын
I think narratively, Oda has to keep the Admirals close to the Yonko. Because, as Luffy grows in power, the Navy and World Government need to continue to be a threat.
@runei24552 жыл бұрын
They ar close but admiral Def not yonko level ,but they are really close,only akainu is at yonko level imo
@Binks1292 жыл бұрын
Admirals can’t be Yonko level. The whole reason they are Yonko is because they don’t want to f*ck with them. Because there would be far too many casualties to deal with them. If they could just 1v1 them they would have just done that instead of having the Marineford war.
@bonerpants72032 жыл бұрын
@@Binks129 The world government benefits from the existence of the yonko
@Binks1292 жыл бұрын
@@bonerpants7203 No they benefited from the Warlords. Yonko are simply “no go’s”
@bonerpants72032 жыл бұрын
@@Binks129 The world government does in fact benefit from the existence of the yonko. The yonko act as gate keepers to the poneglyphs, and prevent any one pirate from accessing all of them. And therefore accessing the information erased via the void century, as well as the one piece. The yonko essentially do half of the world's government job without even knowing it.
@bignean22802 жыл бұрын
keep in mind kid goku could have destroyed earth when he was in his great ape form and if he could do that back then and naruto could barley i would say they dont have a chance against base goku or goku in general i dont know how they were even taking them blows and getting back up but i guess its cool.
@abdelazizmohamed5392 жыл бұрын
just like how 17 and krillin fought blue goku he wasent fighting for real
@kirbyeatsyourfamily7345 Жыл бұрын
Kid Goku could bearly destroy the moon lmao. When was great ape form planetary?
@JuanMartinez-rf1kd2 жыл бұрын
That greenbull heading to wano didn't aged well lol
@revan91212 жыл бұрын
I get where he was coming from with Zuko. And he had an amazing character development through out Avatar. But honestly... Who TF could answer that question and not get hate? They're all amazing. Except for Gaara lol. He had a lot of potential but Kishimoto forgot about him like Toriyama forgot Goten and Trunks' tail! Great video man!
@David.A2 жыл бұрын
You're delusional to say that about Gaara.
@revan91212 жыл бұрын
@@David.A maybe... Maybe not 🤷
@antassingh29912 жыл бұрын
Gaara got what he could have gotten, he had his moments and development I don't think Kishimoto did wrong with Gaara
@revan91212 жыл бұрын
@@antassingh2991 neither do I. But he's development as a character got flat after the first arc of Shippuden. And remember kids... It's ALWAYS "IMO". No one holds the absolute truth. Peace ✌🏻
@antassingh29912 жыл бұрын
@@revan9121 sure you have your opinion and I have mine but what more do you think Kishimoto could have done with Gaara
@gabrielgrankvist47002 жыл бұрын
rob forget that gecko moria clashed with kaido for 3 days
@TheMilkMan7162 жыл бұрын
thorfinn has one of the best character developments in all of manga in the farm arc, unless that guy didnt read vinland saga that is mad disrespectful
@tripledistent2 жыл бұрын
fr let him see season 2 then try to say that disrespectful stuff.
@Mighty042 жыл бұрын
These Tik Tok videos are lowkey my favorite on the channel! Keep it up Rob!
@diondadigger2 жыл бұрын
"I just want to be a bird!"
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@luciver32222 жыл бұрын
ayo ima have to agree with the tik tok guy on the second one zukos character development is one of the greatests in fiction
@ai.strawhat10162 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, meruem had the pontential to have insane character development. On the level of a zuko or vegeta. We only game him one arc in the anime and he showed he has a bit of humanity even though he’s a chimera ant.
@warriorofthegrandline2y6182 жыл бұрын
He went through a lot of character growth and Komugi was the epitome of glorious characters to ever grace a shonen Zuko and vegeta also are great
@jessecourt6242 жыл бұрын
Bro the bleach ost "going home" is so beautiful gotta use it more often in your vids
@shamanking26952 жыл бұрын
"Thorfinn had no character" That's where this guy lost all his credibility, showing that he couldn't understand subtle and gentle writing and storytelling of Vinland Saga. Even in the 1 season, which is prologue of the story, Thorfinn has a lot of character.
@alsaad54872 жыл бұрын
We just gotta wait for s2 for him to see
@shamanking26952 жыл бұрын
@@alsaad5487, well, as far I know, season 2 will flesh out Thorfinn's character more, but my point still stand strong, because Thorfinn always were a character with layers.
@RohanSinghal-ob7zu2 жыл бұрын
I seen only Fax
@ziangli48362 жыл бұрын
@@alsaad5487 Season 1 already established who Thorfinn is as a character, season 2 just builds on that so is still disrespectful to have the audacity to say Thorfinn has no character development.
@zaynthemane2 жыл бұрын
Dude literally summed up Meruem’s character growth as “he died to a bomb.” Actual double iq takes from that guy.
@no_skill41132 жыл бұрын
These are some of my favorite videos you make and this one a long one bro appreciate you for making this!
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoy it
@elijahstark36632 жыл бұрын
Neji wins, because lee stated he hadn’t beat neji even recently before the gaara fight. And rock lee and sasuke in the chunin exams we don’t know who could’ve won. Even in shippudden during a filler rock lee stated he’d still not beat neji because neji locks his chakra up before he can open up the gates. The level of speed rock lee was going at after the 3rd gate would’ve knocked out anyone that wasn’t gaara. All of nejis moves would’ve been perfect counters to everything sasuke had to dish out. Because sasuke ended up in the same hospital as lee after fighting gaara.
@leoc10692 жыл бұрын
Yeah people also forget that neji had to fight kidomaru who cleared a near forest with his attacks and still won.
@tiandastewart50922 жыл бұрын
Nothing but absolute Facts.
@Eclipse-pk2lo2 жыл бұрын
Sasuke copied Lees taijutsu in gates
@LuhTwizzy__2 жыл бұрын
Yeah a filler
@elijahstark36632 жыл бұрын
@@LuhTwizzy__ doesn't matter it's also Canon that Lee still has never beat neji, and this was stated especially right before his fight with gaara. Sasuke wasn't gonna beat gaara or Naruto, and he still would've been nothing compared to Lee. Every move Sasuke had at the time neji could counter
@mukeshbichha17952 жыл бұрын
14:37 my bro literally disregarding that guy said tybw grimmjaw and truthfully that grimmjaw was a beast .
@cooljo58812 жыл бұрын
5:15 True, but Shanks pulling up with his crew after Blackbeard got hit by Whitebeard AND fought Sengoku is a little different then Akainu pulling up on his own while BB + his crew is kinda fresh
@h4nnnanW2 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly new so, pls explain why was the war stopped? If the admirals are as strong as yonkos then why didn't they end shanks right there?
@yrnkevinsmithC-1372 жыл бұрын
@@h4nnnanW Dunno but it's said by the OP Fandom that it's either shanks had a fleet behind him or the WG didn't want to continue fighting shanks
@h4nnnanW2 жыл бұрын
@@yrnkevinsmithC-137 oh
@AJ-fn3ug2 жыл бұрын
@@h4nnnanW admirals are not as strong as the yonkos
@marquisrogers75542 жыл бұрын
@@AJ-fn3ug they are tho if not stronger
@xavier.12 жыл бұрын
Your videos feel to good to be underrated you are one of the reasons youtube feels great 👍🏾
@predatorzeus36362 жыл бұрын
He said TYBW grimmjow who is on another level he can solo naruto verse and he has a second resurrection which is ftl and the strength is on a different level he is indeed stronger than tatsumaki
@onanahavannaa45542 жыл бұрын
Facts
@shounenking3132 жыл бұрын
How strong is grimmjow in tybw can u tell some of his abilities is he planetary?
@oRhyzze2 жыл бұрын
@@shounenking313 hes able to solo a lot of verses like one piece or naruto
@z-dub73862 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro. I said the same thing when Shounen Showdown said Grimmjow was the weakest on the list. Tbh the weakest one on the list is Luffy imo. Maybe Gojo if I can be convinced otherwise.
@shounenking3132 жыл бұрын
@@oRhyzze solo naruto so that means grimmjow is planetary right?
@Yaturb_ Жыл бұрын
welp, greenbull being able to box with the yonkos got old, REAL quick.
@Kingkenny152 жыл бұрын
Prime Gecko Moria was actually able to fight on par with Kaido. The only reason Gecko Moria is weak now is because after he lost to Kaido his will was crushed. Weak Will=Weak Haki, which is the reason why gecko Moria was weak
@tyrkun16242 жыл бұрын
They weren't on par, but it wasn't a squash match
@zombiesospiritual25312 жыл бұрын
Man is on a roll with this goated anime vids sorry I was late though great content
@complex63552 жыл бұрын
No disrespect to the naruto anime but krillin would be enough for the whole verse. No disrespect great show great animation but these dragon ball characters are just on a whole different class when it comes to power.
@h4nnnanW2 жыл бұрын
As a naruto fan,Respectable
@antassingh29912 жыл бұрын
Krillen scales above Solar system level so he solos it's pretty simple facts
@gamershack72552 жыл бұрын
How is it disrespectful when character is more stronger than other universe characters bro? Like I could make a story on a dragon with multiversal powers but saying my dragon beats naruto verse no diff isn't disrespectful. Facts are facts there is nothing disrespectful in vs battles. Only things that are disrespectful is when comparing storylines.
@brochiing42952 жыл бұрын
Yea power creep in db is insane.
@michealjustmicheal1022 жыл бұрын
@@gamershack7255 Its cause there gonna be dumbasses who actually will get offended by fax and call the fandom your coming from "Toxic" thats how the anime community works my dude
@NEXZYGOAT2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite videos from rob,
@biggiesmells77382 жыл бұрын
I would agree with you if it was arrancar arc Grimm he’s about continental to multi continental but that’s TYBW Grimm he wipes tatsumaki and the verse
@GrimFom342 жыл бұрын
The most Underrated KZbinr
@WizTube_v22 жыл бұрын
Lelouch is my second favorite mc and I would say he didn’t really have development. What made him great is that his character stayed consistant from the beginning to the end. Although he had hidden motives, all of his ideals never changed. Like “those who kill should be prepared to die” and how he was always a liar or how much he loved nanally
@Jaydenreco2 жыл бұрын
another banger from my boy Rob yessirr
@guoc112 жыл бұрын
I'm not entirely sure about this since I watched black clover a long time ago so correct me if I'm wrong but I think dorothy either has to touch or get really close to someone to put them in the dream world. And Her speed isn't keeping up with tatsumaki's esper abilities so I would put dorothy below tatsumaki.
@sololeveler81792 жыл бұрын
just love rob and his content such an underated guy keep up the good work love from India, my guy .
@h4nnnanW2 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand how sakura traded with goku 😐
@v12demonz22 жыл бұрын
I've been here since like 2k or 50k your content is crazy entertaining ngl/
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it fr!!
@v12demonz22 жыл бұрын
@@ShonenShowdown Ay np you deserve it
@koolstool2 жыл бұрын
I mean for the Goku vs narutoverse they gotta make the animation interesting. Base Goku is low multi while Narutoverse is planetary-star level (can be solar system but that requires some iffy arguments). It would just be disrespectful to have base Goku atomizing everyone instantly
@everybody75762 жыл бұрын
True, and there would be no point in making an animated fight at that point you have to keep it semi-entertaining
@koolstool2 жыл бұрын
@@everybody7576 this guy gets it
@antassingh29912 жыл бұрын
Well yeah if you are making a fight there needs to be a fight not a slaughter
@everybody75762 жыл бұрын
I think Saiyan saga or cell saga goku would be a way better match against everyone in Naruto in their prime strength, that would be way more intreseting than base goku from super.
@koolstool2 жыл бұрын
@@everybody7576 I think saiyan saga would do cuz he scales to star level. Even demon king Piccolo stated that he himself was planetary, and he got beat up by kid Goku
@_Rambo.2 жыл бұрын
bro that first guy is gobbling admirals imma be real... he really said kizaru wanted to go wano to fight big mom and kaido because hes on that level, he can compete.... What?!
@ImJordanFr2 жыл бұрын
In cross verse battles you have to say that the verses energies are the same so with naruto and one piece haki=chakra which means that Minato should be able to damage kizaru, and also I thought it was common knowledge that Minato is multiple times faster than light
@yourmama50552 жыл бұрын
How? Is there any official data of him being faster than light...or just fanboys made that up
@JonaD7572 жыл бұрын
@@yourmama5055 Haku and Mifune are confirmed as being light speed, the Raikage is far faster than either of them and even base Minato was already considered much faster by A. Stacking on top of that Sage Mode and Nine-Tails Chakra Mode. For higher tiers in Naruto Light speed is a bare minimum. Even a child like Haku was able to achieve that at 15. Minato is considered the fastest character in the verse, until Naruto surpasses him.
@yourlossbro76942 жыл бұрын
@@JonaD757 raikage was confirmed to be lighting speed, hes not light speed. Haku is only Ls when he is in the mirror.
@JonaD7572 жыл бұрын
@@yourlossbro7694 You're blatantly wrong on the Raikage. Kakashi was already faster than lightning when he was a child, and the Raikage is ridiculously faster than Pre-timeskip Kakashi. Sasuke tagged Haku while he was moving at light speed with his undeveloped sharingan. Even without the mirrors, a weaker version of Haku is able to blitz post-Pain War arc Kakashi. Mifune can move faster than light, but you somehow think that the Raikage, the confirmed fastest character in the world (after Minato's death) is lightning speed?
@benjaminforehand71392 жыл бұрын
Ah yes green bull a very powerful opponent the way he crapped is pants when shanks was nearby, clearly he would fold the yanko.
@synthescyth2 жыл бұрын
Bruh did you really say GRIMMJOW TYBW is weaker than Tatsumaki 💀❓❓❓
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
I was talking Anime Grimmjow but Tatsumaki’s feats are heavily slept on
@synthescyth2 жыл бұрын
@@ShonenShowdown gotcha mb, I just thought you ignored the fact that the person who made the video said "Grimmjow TYBW"
@lyghtneng31312 жыл бұрын
wait i just noticed, how tf u only got 100k subscribes? my guy u deserve SO MUCH MORE wtfffff
@MelkorV2 жыл бұрын
That tatsumaki one is cap. Idk if you saw one punch man manga but Tatsumaki is built diffrent. I don't want to give spoilers but Imma just say this anime tatsumaki is weak as hell compared to manga tatsumaki. It's like just %5 of her power. She is at least top 4 at that list.
@lorenzogironi7593 Жыл бұрын
Do people keep forgetting that chakra Is a mix of phisical and spiritual Energy??!!
@morpheus09512 жыл бұрын
Akainu fought WB alone Greenbull thrashed King and Queen....King and Queen thrashed Marco
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
King and Queen were still in recovery, but I see what you are saying
@blooved43892 жыл бұрын
my g king and queen were crippled
@morpheus09512 жыл бұрын
@@blooved4389 King had only one bandage on his cheek Queen didn't even have any bandage
@gamershack72552 жыл бұрын
@@morpheus0951 king did lose his wing and queen his arm. I honestly don't know man but it is also fact they attacked him so it's likely they were recovered. I do hope admiral equal to yonko now tho, will make it more interesting.
@morpheus09512 жыл бұрын
@@gamershack7255 Queen can rebuild his arm And King didn't use his lunarian wing in combat....he used his devil fruit wing
@chilly17012 жыл бұрын
People forget that in Gaara Hiden Gaara displays a very potent water style jutsu that was also used by his father.
@Niggcolo2 жыл бұрын
Hot take? 🔥 Bleach vs Naruto Fights: Naruto Story: Bleach (personal opinion) Plot Twists: Bleach (Aizen obviously) World building: Bleach (obvious reasons) Emotions: Naruto Rivalry: Naruto (Hard to top) Disrespected by a lot of people: Bleach Now power scaling Overall stronger verse: Bleach Stronger mc: Bleach Stronger side cast: Bleach Feats: Bleach Solos the verse: Ichigo
@momotheone97002 жыл бұрын
Your wrong about story, arguably plot twist( itachi being a good guy was such a pivotal point in sasuke journey and the entire franchise for that matter) , your also wrong about strongest side character ( id argue dms kakashi would beat a lot of side characters in bleach alone, and theres a lot more from there, main character is arguable
@momotheone97002 жыл бұрын
And how can bleach world building compare to naruto? That is weird
@Niggcolo2 жыл бұрын
@@momotheone9700 first story was a personal opinion. Plus Kakashi ain’t beating Yamamoto, Kenpachi, Grimmjow, etc. Their in a whole different plane of existence, literally being shinigami/souls and all.
@Niggcolo2 жыл бұрын
@@momotheone9700 Bleach has more then 3 different dimensions that have a story behind them, Naruto is smere one planet and most of of the story is focused on Kohonagakure. Good worldbuilding tells a compelling story with well-developed characters, all while setting the events in an imaginary world intriguingly different from the real world. Which Bleach has for each dimension. The human world, Soul Society, Hueco Mundo, Hell etc.
@Niggcolo2 жыл бұрын
@@momotheone9700 and its quite obvious that Ichigo is stronger then Naruto, it’s not even an argument.
@theallmighty44182 жыл бұрын
love these tiktoks rob keep up the great work rob i love your content
@brandonadrien34762 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna say Demon Slayer is the best anime/manga in the world but we gotta hop off it being "carried by animation". There are other series that got just as good/better animation that still didn't see half the success that Demon Slayer got. I just think people don't wanna admit that people are chill with a story that isn't super nuanced, deeper than an abyss, and warrants a 30-page thesis. (Plus, it also has time going for it cuz the series isn't a long read and doesn't demand high commitment time.)
@trenageddon64652 жыл бұрын
This ^ Take my Like kind sir You 100% correct Im not a fan of demon slayer but saying it's only carried by Animation is insane I know alot of people who genuinely like the characters and story of Demon slayer and the manga seems to be very popular Sometimes people just want a simple story People need to understand that not every anime needs to be very intricate and deep to be enjoyable
@memenation51052 жыл бұрын
Bruh facts, but people still throw hate.
@Mega-cd9bl2 жыл бұрын
That Tatsumaki disrespect is not allowed in here
@my.pfp.say.it.all.5u52 жыл бұрын
we all know what happened to green bull stop disrespecting the yonkos
@TheIzzyHolloway2 жыл бұрын
The moment Dragon Ball Super made it that Goku can use Ultra Instinct at any transformation level, he became a different beast. In my opinion he’s reached the pinnacle of physical combat. Unless you have hax you stand no chance.
@kenshinfire99382 жыл бұрын
Shonen Showdown PLEASE keep up the grind my boy
@justarandomguy19162 жыл бұрын
id honestly say that goku destorying all of naruto isn't a hot take, its an obvious take. oh and spoiler warning! Grimjow in the manga is universal.
@TheEnigmaWithTheQuestionMark2 жыл бұрын
yea rob cut him off when he said blood war grimjow which sucks but ah well
@justarandomguy19162 жыл бұрын
@@TheEnigmaWithTheQuestionMark true
@mephisto........77462 жыл бұрын
Bro, love this series one of the best series in your channel imo, and you are doing great keep it up and will you make top 10 strongest HxH characters list.
@Chuck_Brownn2 жыл бұрын
Kaido would dog walk the admirals at marineford. The ranks are equal admirals = yonko. But in terms of power shown the yonko's > most admirals. Jack wasn't scared of Fuji, sengoku and tsuru, that's not a good argument. I hope greenbull is strong. Akainu is not luffy's end game there's little to no chance.
@Hamzah_082 жыл бұрын
how wrong u will be lmao.
@Hamzah_082 жыл бұрын
akainu is ofc luffys opponent lmao
@Chuck_Brownn2 жыл бұрын
@@Hamzah_08 In Admiral piece?. Fr damn sure🔥🔥🤐
@tacotony33362 жыл бұрын
@@Hamzah_08 black beard has been foreshadowed for this you dont make any sense
@Hamzah_082 жыл бұрын
@@tacotony3336 u realise u can fight more than one person lmfao. akainus been Foreshadowed iswell
@prinsy802 жыл бұрын
first congrats on the silver youtube playbutton. second I agree with most of your take and love these tiktok video keep being a great creator for the anime community. 👍
@mephisto........77462 жыл бұрын
Yonko>>Admiral>>>Yonko 1st Mate Marco is clashing with admirals Sabo is fighting equally against fujitora, marco stopped a attack from enraged akainu, doffy is literally shitting himself against kaido and he is not afraid of aokiji, old wb who was sick and heavily injured and was not able to use haki was equal to akainu (the strongest admiral) prime WB could literally solo the three admirals extreme diff, oda literally stated himself that 1 yonko Crew=Marine + Warlords, MF wb was the weakest yonko and he was literally fighting the whole marine with his crew
@akileshr72622 жыл бұрын
wb was able to use haki....prime beard loses to 3 admirals....oda mentioned 1 yonko crew + warlords = the yonko, not just A yonko crew. And doffy mentioned the navy is dominating the seas not any of the yonko. MF wb was stated to be the strongest man in the world....his use of haki was poor just like everyone else in mf cause it was pre-ts. Doffy had dirt on the gorosei and had connections with the cp0, he has enough to back him up against an admiral. Whereas kaido could just put an end to his dream if he wanted to. Sabo himself was suprised by how fuji was fighting and so was other marines, aaand fujitora was just trying to stall so that it seemed like he couldn't go any further. This was suggested with his conversation with sabo. Also kizaru was offering to go handle the kaido, big mom alliance ALONE. Akainu only stopped him because of the invariable strength of the samurai. The only samurai they really know is oden who is extremely powerful. A vice admiral mentioned only the admirals can handle the yonko (both plural). Marco has an extremely broken fruit that negated almost any of the admirals attacks. Plus he was also capable of overwhelming big mom. Big mom ended up running away cause she knew shed be wasting souls on trying to overcome his df. So its not a bad thing marco was capable of keeping up with the admirals in their short encounters. And wb fought with the navy alone sure but he only ended up injuring one admiral and that to it wasn't fatal. Otherwise he never harmed an admiral without hitting them from the back. He barely forced the warlords into the fight and he didn't even force sengoku into the fight. Even the statemate like, the navy is trying to contain the yonko(plural again) shows that they r pretty powerful. Imo Yonkos and admirals r close in strength and it depends on match up. Kizaru vs big mom? kizaru. But against kaido. Well kaido ofc. Akainu vs shanks is invariable cause we nothing abt him. Oh and also BB who is a yonko and had the rest of his crew ran from akainu similar to how he ran from shanks. The dif is bb in MF was tired and was fighting sengoku and garp. While this BB was sorta fresh and akainu was pretty much alone too. If BB alone was stronger than akainu im sure he wouldn't hv wanted to just run away and miss the chance to steal his df. Sure BB mightve been stronger but it was clear he knew the risks of fighting akainu. Again my opinion is that Yonko~admirals but majority of the yonkos were stronger than the admirals individually. Like fuji, and kizaru, or aokiji lose ext dif to most of the yonko but akainu could win against some ext dif. Aramaki is invariable again.
@blazeuchiha23142 жыл бұрын
Your talking about a gecko moria which was facing luffy. Prime gecko was facing KAIDO, my guy gecko is slept on since he lost to pre-timeskip luffy and doffy.
@LL-bb9pt2 жыл бұрын
14:28, lol I kind of agree with you, but if we take grimmjows word then he’s easily stronger. His greatest feats were maybe city level at best. And he had no feats in TYBW. But Grimmjow was confident in fighting a true shikai ichigo a form of ichigo who had comparable feats to dangai ichigo. On top of that he could sense ichigo’s spiritual pressure (something aizen couldn’t do) meaning he might even be stronger than aizen. Again this is all speculation based on him being able to sense ichigo’s spiritual pressure and being confident in being able to beat him. Based on feats alone however tatsumaki stomps.
@maods50562 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting on this for so long man! You gotta make these more often!!
@pokeballblaze98352 жыл бұрын
9:17 stop the Sakura slander tbh i don't entirely like her but she is not useless one could argue that as off right now in the series in Boruto she is top 10 along with being stronger than 8 gates guy in Shippuden she was boxing with a 3 rinnegan Kaguya and broke her bones(horns are bones) and drew her blood while she was on guard while it took guy literally using a suicide technique to even begin to harm one rinnegan sage of six paths Madara who was way weaker than Kaguya also Goku in base is beyond universal he is clapping them all up they just had this animation drawn out for entertainment purposes great video though
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@pokeballblaze98352 жыл бұрын
@@ShonenShowdown 17:50 also prime gecko moria was rivaling kaido in power at one point kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWPYZHaffpZmmdU plus moria would just grab Shikamaru's shadow as it would basically not affect him due to his df power and it is gg's kizaru stomps minato he has no real way of harming him while kizaru has you and likey future sight aswell only way minato wins is if he uses the reaper death seal but even then that sounds more like a draw also he has to catch him first garaa has no way to harm crocodile and poison and more old garp curb stomps sakura with ease but it will take a bit due to her regen
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
@@pokeballblaze9835 I will say Kaido was destroyed Moria and he was much weaker back then. But I do agree it's a bad matchup for Shikamaru. The rest I completely agree
@bailong96982 жыл бұрын
@@pokeballblaze9835 i dont even get how minato would seal him or use the reaper jutsu at him cuz they all require you to be tangible like they have to touch him to seal him then how you do that cuz we haven't seen any jutsu that can seal non tangible object in naruto
@bailong96982 жыл бұрын
@@pokeballblaze9835 for sakura i don't think it will take long cuz her regen is strong but it ain't like madra with ryou he can pretty much blow her up from inside or blow her brain by p7mching her in the face
@IlyTranq2 жыл бұрын
This dude’s hair gets better and better-
@squishy_the_lucky_devil.18792 жыл бұрын
In terms of how much they changed and developed as a character, I'd put Zuko, Vegeta, Sasuke, Gaara or Mereum. Zuko and Vegeta are easily the two who changed the most, and in the best ways. Sasuke wasn't handled that well, but did infact have character development. Gaara was done well, but he's not comparable to the other 4. Mereum was done the best I think, especially psychologically, but he died far too early and didn't have the biggest change.
@STROUDS92 жыл бұрын
Nothing but facts
@chickenclapper27482 жыл бұрын
Have you read Vinland saga manga?
@squishy_the_lucky_devil.18792 жыл бұрын
@@chickenclapper2748 No, but I look forward to doing so. I've heard some spoilers, but in my understanding, we were speaking in Anime Only terms. Though, I hear he's grown up to be an Old Man. Which is really cool.
@kanji54512 жыл бұрын
Thorfinn has the best development on that list
@Fl4meFlow2 жыл бұрын
Goku could solo the naruto verse by powering up Edit: by powering up I mean the aura of powering up destroying the naruto verse
@shounenking3132 жыл бұрын
Bro even ichigo solos narutoverse. Goku is on whole other league. Since goku is even stronger than him.
@senpaixxxxlx30382 жыл бұрын
@@shounenking313 bro who was talking about Ichigo but yes he does solo
@shounenking3132 жыл бұрын
@@senpaixxxxlx3038 i am saying goku will be too much thats why. Naruto fans really overestimate there scaling so i just said some facts
@W_AXOM2 жыл бұрын
Who would win base goku or naruto with every dojutsu and infinite chakra,with verse equalization which means genjutsu would work
@Fl4meFlow2 жыл бұрын
@@W_AXOM before I start with anything I want to inform you that base goku can easily destroy a solar system
@sponbob_uchiha31632 жыл бұрын
7:22 I don't blame you for not reading the manga of Vinland saga but Thorfinn has one of the best character development in anime no cap bro is whole new character waiting for peak saga season 2
@xtonic99952 жыл бұрын
I don't understand what u are saying right now i am lost u saying devil fruit beats haki? bro shanks use only sword and haki same as Zoro and is top 3 in one piece. law is not beating Zoro my guy.
@ShonenShowdown2 жыл бұрын
Nah I'm not saying DF beats Haki. I'm saying Law is better at his DF than Zoro is with his Haki control. The Grim Reaper showed up when he fought King lol. The difference is Shanks is a haki master. Zoro just learned acoc. On the other hand, Law has DF awakening now.
@xtonic99952 жыл бұрын
@@ShonenShowdown Zoro saw the grim reaper because he just fought the commander of the beast pirates while he just took a combined attack from 2 emperors of the sea they were also trying to kill the 5 of them with that attack. he was weak and still won against king I don't think law has that kinda stamina or durability even that kinda strength also law lost badly to doflamingo because of his lack of stamina. I'm sorry to say but law losses to Zoro here law does not even have any Haoshoku Haki that we know of.
@AnimeALX Жыл бұрын
That Greenbull comment aged like fine milk 🥛
@Joangelis Жыл бұрын
um how
@Joangelis Жыл бұрын
because he ran?
@h4nnnanW2 жыл бұрын
Yes, goku solos the naruto verse. Accept it naruto fans
@senpaixxxxlx30382 жыл бұрын
We already accepted it
@h4nnnanW2 жыл бұрын
@@senpaixxxxlx3038 some of them don't for some reason lol
@h4nnnanW2 жыл бұрын
@@senpaixxxxlx3038 it's hard to see one of your fav verse get solo'd for me too but some think goku cant
@nothing64312 жыл бұрын
I've been watching a ton of your videos recently and instantly subscribed. Very nice content. Some of these made me realize I know more about anime than I thought I did lol.
@shounenking3132 жыл бұрын
Can goku defeat all naruto? Is that even debate. Bruh gohan will be enough for soloing the verse. Putting goku us just too much for those shinobis. Naruto and sasuke are barely moon level (small planet or multi continental) goku is universal or low multiversal. Goku will even stomp those otsutotsuki who are only planetary.
@z.incognito62592 жыл бұрын
The grimmjow disrespect is absolutely absurd Rob 😭
@oscarguzman2162 жыл бұрын
In the Neji vs Sasuke debate, I feel like we should consider the fact that Sasuke had copied lee's taijutsu and was as good as lee without his weights. However this did take a lot of Sasuke's stamina, so I really don't know who would win.
@xcbaby1232 жыл бұрын
Lee never beat neji and Lee no diffed Sasuke lol. Neji would kill sasuke
@justarandomguy19162 жыл бұрын
@@xcbaby123 that was sasuke before he copied lee's taijutsu, oh and also neji has no counter to chidori, and neji lost to a fatuiged naruto who was weaker than sasuke💀💀
@xcbaby1232 жыл бұрын
@@justarandomguy1916 the rotation is a perfect counter to chidori. And that chidori would never land on neji regardless. Remember he spars with Lee who is still definitely faster than sasuke. Counter point is Sasuke has no match for getting his chakra blocked in the exams. Neji easily beats Sasuke at this point
@Eclipse-pk2lo2 жыл бұрын
@@xcbaby123 neji used rotation like twice? and he was out of energy to defend from a single uppercut from a naruto whos weaker than this sasuke, sasuke out lasts him by miles not including him being stronger in base with lees tai plus sharingan amps
@xcbaby1232 жыл бұрын
@@Eclipse-pk2lo If Neji can beat Lee who is clearly much faster than Sasuke. What can Sasuke do to actually hurt him? Sasuke has no rebuttal to a 64 palms at this point and his ninjutsu isn't strong enough to break a rotation.
@danmirkin47672 жыл бұрын
Prime Moria was boxing with past Kaido on the same level
@KADEZ_YT2 жыл бұрын
Goku solos naruto
@senpaixxxxlx30382 жыл бұрын
No shit
@solenyadnapa81912 жыл бұрын
In base form.....definitely yes
@endawvvknightz65262 жыл бұрын
@@solenyadnapa8191 Nah one Kamehameha and the whole verse is gone
@solenyadnapa81912 жыл бұрын
@@endawvvknightz6526 nah why goku? Send piccolo lol
@endawvvknightz65262 жыл бұрын
@@solenyadnapa8191 Piccolo? Krillin can get the job done
@mashpotetatez47302 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if I said it but as an anime fan of color I love this channel makes me feel proud I didn’t give up on my love for it