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@grumpyw01f19Ай бұрын
Please keep making Rivals 2 content! This game is bringing together players from all over the platfighters, and so your amazing commentary is needed for all the great competition and stories in this game!
@atWiselyАй бұрын
Hey Walt, big fan. Did you know that Zetterburn's fire used to do 2x knockback, but was changed to roughly 1.5x at some point after Rivals 1 early access? (Roughly because knockback scaling math is weird so it's a general estimate. I'm so sorry you had to find out this way, the video was great 😭)
@turndownforwaltАй бұрын
Wisely why would you do this to me
@TheKoen640Ай бұрын
was about to say this. although i thought it was 1.75x but i might be misremembering
@imDxneАй бұрын
please one of these for forsburn 😓
@RiahGreenАй бұрын
I thought it was 1.2x huh!
@NormalPunch-Ай бұрын
👋Hey, I'm the guy who made the Rivals frame data site. It was awesome seeing it being utilized like this! I'm so glad that people are finding it useful : ) It's wild that Zetterburn's strong attacks send twice as far if someone is on fire! Great to know. I can't wait to learn how far other characters' gimmicks send you.
@KrispyKorpseАй бұрын
I would say my only big critique of the video is that when showing hitboxes, you didnt pause on any of the frames so it was super hard to actually see what they looked like. If you could do that for future character coverages that woule be helpful. Great and informative video otherwise
@turndownforwaltАй бұрын
Duly noted! We had to kind of crunch on this for a sponsor deadline but will definitely keep this in mind if these get enough reception and we can do the rest of the cast!
@braxaculeeАй бұрын
Completely agree with this good video otherwise
@50andURnotLOLOLOLАй бұрын
I think anyone that likes Melee will like Rivals content. The game is undeniably sick.
@TheBeggies95Ай бұрын
First game in my life that makes me stop playing melee to play it. Insanely good game
@LamentationsofapooryАй бұрын
Yes! More Rivals content please! No other game has brought smash heads to a different place quite like this. Ultimate and Melee players are playing same game. It's truly magic.
@JarekthegamingdragonАй бұрын
Aside from PM any way.
@xtinaxendrixАй бұрын
roa2 is lowkey just legal pm, 4/5 of pm's starter stages and the brawl techs are all here
@Hirokal72Ай бұрын
Super glad you're dipping into rivals 2. I absolutely love your history type melee videos and hope that you'll do them for rivals in the future as more tournaments happen 🙏
@Technaci0usАй бұрын
As an oldhead melee player, I highly recommend playing Rivals II, it is SICK, no clunkiness whatsoever.
@TheBeggies95Ай бұрын
Same
@DrunkenHoteiАй бұрын
16:30 - To be clear, the up-special is what puts you into special fall-NOT the airdodge (unlike Melee). I see a lot of people neglect this in their recovery options. I still forget to do it frequently as well.
@turndownforwaltАй бұрын
Airdodge before recovery was the worst muscle memory to break when swapping between Rivals 1 and Melee LOL
@actuallycarter7 күн бұрын
The reason I decided to main sheik 4 years ago was because you already know it’s Kira (ssbm tutorials) described sheiks combo game as a constant di mixup. I thought that sounded so cool and I have been a sheik main ever since. I hope these videos provide the same inspiration for new rivals players! :D
@jaredjohnson7678Ай бұрын
This is, bar none, the best character overview video I have ever seen. Simply amazing! Subscribed and can't wait for more of these for the rest of the cast... Cheers!
@cyprienramis1304Ай бұрын
A few things you didn't mention : Down tilt can combo depending on DI and percent either into up strong, up air or forward air Up strong is also a combo tool at early percent since you can easily get it out of dash attack and even out of down throw or up throw on some characters, and it leads into 1 or 2 up airs Due to the first hit of down strong hitting behind it can easily catch oponents off guard if you moonwalk into down smash Nair can be used to shield pressure if your oponent is a bit far from you because it can cross up Fair can be used as some kind of a wall of pain and sourspot makes fair combos into itself even offstage Also it's not relevant to learning the character but Zetter ditto is probably the funniest match up in the entire game
@DrunkenHoteiАй бұрын
@@cyprienramis1304 A fantastic addition to the video. This comment deserves more attention.
@cyprienramis1304Ай бұрын
@@DrunkenHotei thx :)
@noahjohnson1364Ай бұрын
As far as feedback goes, I would love to see tournament preview videos for Rivals as well as Melee/Smash in general. As someone who has been spectating the scene for years on and off, those videos always entertain me as well as reignite my interest for the game.
@Pro9BriskАй бұрын
Agreed man, it helps to keep me in touch with the competitive community
@whitekj03Ай бұрын
This guide is great, thank you. I've always had the problem in plat fighters of playing everyone, and only ever winning random MMs at tourneys lol. Zetter for me is great against the slower ground speed characters. His shield pressure and advantage state are great at overwhelming people. He's not my "best" but I get the most 3 stocks with him because you can rob people so early with a hard read 😂
@CardboardBonesАй бұрын
I would love to see more character breakdowns like this. The explanations of *why* a move is good or bad, or what they can lead to, is very helpful for me
@Twisted_LogicАй бұрын
Super excited to see you making Rivals content. I love your style of video, but I'm much more of a P+/Rivals player than Melee, so it's awesome to see more videos from you more directly relevant to my interests!
@corvax8644Ай бұрын
Rivals content is so fun definitely keep it coming
@aydenpeele747Ай бұрын
Excited to see more rivals content, I loved the editing in this video too!
@ltcambrose4034Ай бұрын
Great breakdown as always. Really enjoyed the vid and i'm looking forward to more. if i can give a couple notes: - the name of the moves are a little big and at least during the down-strong demonstration, it cuts off vision of the backward hitbox. not a huge deal but id recommend either putting the move names at the top left, or just shrink it a tiny bit. - it would be awesome if when you show the hitbox demonstration against the black screen, you show the slow motion frames a couple of times per move. it wasnt always easy to see the active hitbox at full speed. i suppose we could reduce playback speed on our end, but if its not too much hassle, it would be a cool addition in future breakdowns. nitpicking aside, this video is dope. looking forward to more.
@agentjp106Ай бұрын
Even as someone who hasn't played Melee but loved Ult and has begun appreciating the Melee scene, I'm super hyped to see Roa2 content from you
@combomambaАй бұрын
Literally just bought Rivals 2 the other day, this couldn't be more perfectly timed. Can't wait for the Ranno video!
@VishnuKumar-nt5oyАй бұрын
Little aside, love Nala. I find it amusing that she always looks guilty lmao
@dmfyreАй бұрын
im so incredibly hyped to see you making rivals content
@wophfulАй бұрын
We need more rivals content. I’ve been learning by watching melee content and transferring the ideas to rivals a lot of the times it helps but sometimes it isn't 1 to 1 at all.
@KrispyKorpseАй бұрын
Im pretty sure they don't sent twice as far. They used to in like early rivals 1 so they killed at like 60, but all the kb in r2 had its basis starting in rivals 1, which had a minor knockback scaling increase (in comparison to doubling kb, it's still super strong). The kbs in r1 (on ustrong for example) was 1.1 and increased to 1.3 (if those numbers mean anything to you). Also it's a 5 second watch time comment so if it's outdated than whatever lol
@justintownsend4555Ай бұрын
I love Rivals II! super excited for you to bring your talent to talking about the game. I think/hope that Rivals II and Melee can coexist and help each other thrive.
@EliTheGleasonАй бұрын
I love this game SOOO much. I'm the biggest fan if platform fighter grappling and no game does it better, the special pummels, focus on unique throws and combo tools rather than only kill throws (though I wish there were a few more doctor mario yeets), all around just awesome
@BeastmdАй бұрын
His head during side b has a hit box as well, if they don’t CC an up close side b will combo the head into the fireball
@mattmarlborough3607Ай бұрын
Huge! Please keep doing amazing content like this about Rivals 2. Would love this on the whole cast! Guarantee I’ll watch, Walt.
@aviator2777Ай бұрын
For the sake of making these "intro" videos for characters, I think you actually might go a bit TOO in-depth on the moveset analysis. I think it would be more pragmatic to hit major frame data highlights and quirks of the moves, or different ways to use them. Knowing that pummel hits on frame 10 isnt really all that helpful in teaching new players what his gameplay looks like and how to use him.
@PlantdaddyTKBАй бұрын
Now that ive seen the whole video i would watch one for every single character probably 3 times over. Incredible break down
@werewolf492518 күн бұрын
Really nice, hope you continue with this for the entire cast!
@yaboi_burrusАй бұрын
The Flamingo remix is the reason I don’t skip the sponsor part, love it
@neutral6854Ай бұрын
Extremely well made, would absolutely love to keep seeing this kind of content.
@jackrailroad28 күн бұрын
A wonderful intro to the carector, I would love to see tournament recaps like for melee, but this cool too
@aceofspace818025 күн бұрын
I look forward to seeing more of these videos, I've never played a smash game beyond as a party game but Rivals of Aether 2 has been on my mind to potentially try it out.
@BlackHero20Ай бұрын
I love seeing you covering rivals 2. Id love to see more of this!
@WrestleCat9Ай бұрын
Very happy to see you're making Rivals 2 content! Please keep making more!
@JarekthegamingdragonАй бұрын
As a zet main in rivals 1 and now a lox main with a pocket zet in rivals 2. I actually feel zet wins the lox mu. The amount of pressure zet can put on lox is very hard for the character with bad oos options to deal with. I also feel the maypul and fors mu has not changed much for zet from rivals 1. Which is to say he loses those mus. Fors has always been a BIG struggle for zet and maypul is, well maypul.
@ProxxiPАй бұрын
Yes yes yes!! i love this game and im so glad more of the melee community is getting eyes on it! Maybe do a video on Orcane next? Cutest character in the game and everyone knows thats the only stat that matters
@pikachutobalАй бұрын
This video format takes me back, I miss Kira's videos so much
@PennyFizzАй бұрын
Holy moly, this format is a throwback that real ones Already Know :)
@SneeZSmashАй бұрын
turndownforzetter
@ziwuriАй бұрын
I've heard Clairen is a good character for beginners, would love to see a video covering her
@thesound51Ай бұрын
Love the look at Rivals 2! Definitely interested in the game, just not sure where to start so a series like this would be very cool
@Peeves22Ай бұрын
If you're going to go over frame data/hitboxes, pausing them so we're better able to see them. Otherwise, amazing overview of tools and holding my breath for the Clairen episode!
@hafwit3088Ай бұрын
Just wasn't enough time for that otherwise there would be!
@soriso717Ай бұрын
I’m very glad to see you do ROA2 content since personally that’s the game I’m more invested in currently Hope ya do videos on his brother Forsburn, I feel like I’d need a degree to get good at him
@greg4055gАй бұрын
I like rivals content on this channel, it will get to my feed more reliably 🙏 excellent vid as usual
@Fudge_bcАй бұрын
Rivals has been my first foray into platform fighters. Quite a departure from tekken and guilty gear, but ive been having a blast. Go team Lox!
@crazysam2350Ай бұрын
Awesome video. 👍 If you keep doing rivals character bios like this I'd love to see an orcane video at some point.
@shunawoahАй бұрын
please keep making rivals 2 content! this video was so good and i would love to see more!!!
@DmzoroweАй бұрын
This video has me convinced to get rivals II. Had been on the fence but it seems the game is both fun and has enough people playing I won’t be out my skill depth 😅
@AriamakiАй бұрын
Definitely keep this up, very excited to see more!
@Ultoman10Ай бұрын
Love the rivals content. Would be great if some videos were made about the beat players from rivals 1 because alot of melee players only know about mang0, hbox, etc
@unbr0ken878Ай бұрын
Hey, did you know zetterburns strong attacks send people twice as far if they are on fire? I love walt making rivals content! Please keep it up, you are the best!!!!
@davoman9118Ай бұрын
I just got an ad for Mufasa: the lion king. This is the first I’ve heard of it. That’s so funny that yt clocked a video about a talking lion should get an ad abt a talking lion.
@lassehuusmannknfler3524Ай бұрын
first time viewer. i think there is a need of more of these. but what i think it is missing the most, is a combo guide, so if u incorporate that into the video, it would be amazing. maybe some routines to practice, to get a flow for the character.
@ghost_of_kurdt_haunts_my_roomАй бұрын
loved the video! can't wait for more Rivals content!
@tahmiduddin1868Ай бұрын
Never watched anything about rivals but I know this is gonna be a banger
@samharper2399Ай бұрын
Love the Rivals content for sure, and imo you do a great job delving into how this character works. I will say I think it may not be wise to get into the minutiae of frame data given that this game is going to undergo several patches. I worry that some of the video could quickly become outdated
@turndownforwaltАй бұрын
Yeah I thought about that as well but also figured just a “is this your character” would be a bit too short and/or shallow for what I normally like to do on this channel (plus I don’t know if it would’ve worked with the sponsor). Will have to think about other options!
@mayaknopp39Ай бұрын
Hey, Walt! I am 8 minutes into your video and I am literally so happy. I was an apex casual Melee player who eventually stopped playing and just consumes Melee by its content on here. That being said, I am committing to Rivals 2. As someone that thinks you're at the top of platform fighter essay content, PLEASE know that I LOVE this. I actually really just admire your content in general. I write video essay scripts, BTW! It's not platfight content, but I'd be willing to shop my most recent one with you and and work on another channel entirely if you wanted to be its face. Being solutions-oriented in nature, and me having parasocial GENUINE respect for you content and thinking, maybe you are the creator I've been wanting to work with! DM me on here if you want to talk shop. Have a great day!
@darkstriker80Ай бұрын
Good video very nice. I would however suggest you that when you show the hit box’s you slow down the footage a bit so make it easier to visually see the hitboxes themselves since some moves go really fast.
@riplix20Ай бұрын
14:15 not anymore, our stubby boy couldn’t be allowed a disjoint to challenge ranno B-airs etc
@Nebuchadnezzar_HekatonkheiresАй бұрын
This was really nice! Would love to see more videos of RoA
@shimabotplusАй бұрын
id love to see more rivals content ! this is very entertaining
@mataiosithymos4602Ай бұрын
Would be such a boon to have someone as diligent as you put out some high quality Rivals content. Here's to hoping this type of thing does well on your channel and we get to see more in the future
@turndownforwaltАй бұрын
Thanks! I'm definitely gonna keep my eye on the reception of these, if they do well then I'll be ready for more!
@gediboy5695Ай бұрын
I love his recovery. Lot of mixups
@thero_1686Ай бұрын
This genuinely would be great! I wanna see anything about Ranno, honestly😄
@LostCoin1Ай бұрын
I dont know what order you are going in but i will be excited to see the second video on youtube that mentions wrastor
@BlackCat633Ай бұрын
Gotta do Forsburn next, he's Zetters brother so it makes sense
@omaragueroАй бұрын
please keep making rivals 2 content you are an amazing creator🙏🙏
@BeastmdАй бұрын
Sour upair is actually pretty godlike. It’s a really good combo extender
@TForgery29 күн бұрын
Would love more Rivals content after this! Gimme a guide for the froge
@gatztopherАй бұрын
TIL that Zetterburn's strong attacks send people twice as far if they are on fire
@RittenYTАй бұрын
grrreat video, would love to see more rivals content
@vossboss220Ай бұрын
You know I got to wonder why did they give him a tail hurt box at all if it's going to be Invincible at all times
@humble_apeАй бұрын
I'm not very good, but I am really enjoying this game. I played a little of rivals 1 and mained zetter. I'm maining forsburn in rivals 2. I'd love to see one of these for Fors!
@AllBladesCutАй бұрын
dan already has bro blocked
@minizimi3790Ай бұрын
Hoping for Lox next. And make it clear that Lox’s optimal taunt is teabagging in center stage.
@clancy2535Ай бұрын
Love the Rivals 2 content. Keep it up!
@CantBeBtanHАй бұрын
Yesss, Rivals 2 content!!
@gravityvertigo13579Ай бұрын
Would love to see more of these!
@censored116Ай бұрын
Cool we both play Mario in Melee and Zetter in Rivals2
@heyitsmort7744Ай бұрын
Love to see the rivals content!!
@LykrastАй бұрын
Yaaaay rivals of aether 2 let's goooo! Can't wait for my tendinitis to be cured so I can actually go play it.
@KrispyKorpseАй бұрын
I've picked up zetter burn as an olympia player in r1 who was playing her since she was a workshop character. Zetter's the best a masher substitute till she gets added but man does her weak recovery feel painful at times
@InosculatedАй бұрын
Really digging deep, SSBMT looking title, FSG esque thumbnail, really combining both eras of that teams work (Not meant to be a dig, good video and good title/thumbnail I just noticed the resemblance and it made me happy)
@christainwebster8487Ай бұрын
Hope you do the other characters really enjoyed the video ❤
@DrunkenHoteiАй бұрын
Yes! I'm very hyped to hear a trusted Melee source explain their perspective on RoA2. I think this game has a great future, though it needs a few balance patches to resolve some really annoying factors (recoveries have too many options, multiple factors promote defensive play, kill conversions and reliable edguards are too hard to find at
@67kingdededeАй бұрын
Lox = ike + ddd, maypul is a frankenstein of all sorts of things
@sakuyarulesАй бұрын
"Now that Rivals 2 has shields, you can just play the same way you would in melee with dair shine ad infinum." Yeah I know 😢
@HastyMang0Ай бұрын
Nice video! Anyways did you know that clairen tippers doubled the hitstun of her moves? :D I think you should do clairen as your next character because I said so and I'm definitely not biased
@YEETRivalsАй бұрын
That’s neat! But did you know Zetterburn’s strong attacks send people twice as far if they are on fire?
@atypicaloddityАй бұрын
I would say to do Forsburn next, but he needs a lot of love to master and should probably go last
@yorkhamburger5564Ай бұрын
Wouldn’t mind more rivals content, seems cool!
@perturbo4253Ай бұрын
I'd love more rivals 2 content. The more attention this game gets the better!
@HavlarkАй бұрын
WALT IS MAKING RIVALS CONTENT
@jaredl954Ай бұрын
yes more rivals content!
@midnalight6419Ай бұрын
Personally, I want to play clairen, so having a video that goes over her would be great. Selfish of me, I know. Thank you in advance