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[@CrystalHurd86]

The NTs here all hate that you didn’t show the guys trick at the beginning...

[@sharan9993]

Yesssssssss

[@yl842]

i think (guess) the trick is to move the x to the top of the list in 3 moves. but i'm not sure.

[@sharan9993]

@@yl842 yes that is crct. He was representing a number of cards

[@mzi668]

Yooo for reaaaaaaaaaaaal

[@martinabesana4036]

I envy you're curiosity

[@elainecary2884]

my brain is totally fine being like "i wonder how that thing works" then never doing the work to figure it out lol

[@tomaylott2593]

Yeah. I recently got around to learning how the heck the electroweak force works … It’s … Complicated 😳

[@slovakzeutsczeniellene4187]

Imagine not drawing because you started to make your own drawing software 😭

[@DYKWINNING]

Same here! Then I have a break down since I don't know much

[@ostranenieminnie]

hey, that's me. I really want to NT, but I just cannot.

[@michaelaida8420]

@@ostranenieminnieJust think deeply about simple things :P

[@ianr1557]

"I'm just going to totally interrupt you!..." "Oh god....." I almost spit my coffee across the room

[@learning7147]

😂😂😂

[@tomwiggins2869]

Honestly, I don't even see it as a dramatic compulsion. It's just my learning style. If I haven't built a framework of understanding so I know where to 'hang' the information you've given me, I'll just forget it again as soon as I think about something else and end up looking stupid. So I need to get *why* I'm being told something almost before I get told it. That's why NTs tend to suck at their first junior jobs, unless they get lucky! (- ENTP)

[@jkd2608]

Sounds like me, too! It's like when people teach me a new card game & they don't tell me the object, the point , the WHY of the game, but instead start with all the rules or tricks or methods of winning. I've got nothing, no framework, to put any of that info so it gets chucked away & I look dumb 😑 (INFJ)

[@sharan9993]

I totally agree i need to know why so that when i can come back and process, i know everything about that and i can work my way out quickly. Instead remembering tons of stuff. Intp

[@ProbablePaul]

Seriously... without the why being answered, information is processed as noise. I think that's why we NTs try to know a little about everything, Also, why small talk can occasionally be arduous; it's not that I don't want to hear what's being said in small talk, it's that I don't know why they're telling me what they're telling me.

[@absinthesesotericadventure7631]

Or it takes 12 jobs to get it right lol

[@allikariel]

1000% spot on. And not many people seem to understand the need to know the why or they find it as a slight to them and their authority/knowledge on the topic at hand.

[@farrex0]

The irony of them saying how much people are on their saviours, and how everyone is the same, is that it is such an xNTJ statement to make xD. Meanwhile, me an Ne Ti, all I see is lot of nuance between person to person. I even see how each person uses their functions different, and have not met people of the same type that are the same. But then again, isn't that me proving that I am using my saviors to reach that conclusion, and therefore proving Dave and Shan right? or Dave and Shan reached that conclusion because of their functions and therefore is biased, because they focus on the similarities more than the differences, ignoring the nuance? As classic xNTP, I will keep thinking about this for hours, but I wager the truth must be somewhere in the middle.

[@sophiaredwood5825]

Salutations again :)) and this comment absolutely blew my mind. The many directions this went in made me so excited, even as an NF. I’ll have to read it a few times to fully grasp it, but I’m rather interested... and shocked that you came up with this immediate thought process so fast. So cool 🤩

[@claraboe2755]

Oooof that comment just hit differently... ~xNTP

[@ProbablePaul]

Dave has talked at length in a video or two about how terribly stubborn his Ni makes him. Actually, that video gave me the sense that NiSe people would rather find a way to make what they already know work, than to start all over again like an NeSi would be willing to do. I am finding this to be true with my ENFJ partner. Once Ni has it's sights locked on something, it's like it can't be stopped, or changed, lol.

[@learning7147]

wow, paradoxical! interesting.... maybe also take into account that they have not only met many people with the same functions but observed and typed many people of the exact same type still, I don't understand why they haven't taken into account that people with more growth have their functions further balanced

[@learning7147]

​@@ProbablePaul I am confused... isn't that supposed to be for people with Masculine Ni? while Dave has Feminine Ni? Just asking though I am not sure

[@InternetLiJo]

I NEED to know why! - ignites actual life within us.

[@SahVayvay]

Mood

[@SankalpJain-vh8wn]

Yes. Why do we have different functions, like how. Seems like it's biological for the most part. But, is it related to parents or parents of any type can give birth to a child of any type and all children have an equal probability to get any type.

[@SankalpJain-vh8wn]

I mean IQ is mostly hereditary. Also, the morality of this, should we have hierarchies based on this. Coz rn financial hierarchies r mostly on IQ and conscientiousness. And some1 with low sensory is more likely to have self control coz the urge is less.

[@joshuapowell3526]

I need to know what then how

[@joshuapowell3526]

@@SankalpJain-vh8wn you had me in the first half....but what urge is less ?

[@isabella16939]

As an ESTJ, I do wonder how things work and why. I initially thought I was good at this, until I realized that I mostly just give up halfway through and then have someone else explain it to me (whether I believe them or not is another story). For example, me watching this video to understand MBTI better.

[@isabella16939]

@Mira Aljarrah Well, they're talking about the NT because to those people, the intuition HAS to make sense to please their thinking. It's a different combo with NF because stuff doesn't have to make sense to please the feeling. Even though you have thinking as well, you don't feel obligated to please that function. As a thinking dominant, everything has to make sense to me (and everyone around me), but the energy that I put into understanding intuition specifically, is not as high as the NT peeps. So... I can totally see the NFs relating with what I said :)

[@dkorwood]

I want things to make sense and will do the work but ONLY if I decide it’s worth the effort. That math crap isn’t

[@isabella16939]

@@dkorwood Heheheh, you know, according to this channel, feeling = value. It kinda makes sense. Lots of thinkers (Ti/Te as first function) make the mistake of doing thinking stuff just for the sake of thinking, even if there's absolutely no value in them. So what's happening is basically you're sane, and the people in the video are not, lol.

[@learning7147]

@Apple Juice Can totally relate to what you just replied... to please my thinking, I would go out of the way spending lots of time over stuff that doesn't really matter, like learning about this or something else when I should be preparing for my exams and the worse part is that I even trick myself into thinking that at the end as it is thinking, it would someway help improve my brain

[@isabella16939]

@@learning7147 Hahaha, right!? To be fair, it does help your brain improve if we're looking at the bigger picture, but it's gonna be way even more effective (both for getting stuff done and improving your overall intelligence) if that amount of thinking energy is directed at something of value. Well, I don't get to say much since I also suffer from a similar problem, lol.

[@SekRanger]

This is becoming a series of "Dave and Shane reaction's to each type"

[@jessjohns7723]

I love it

[@heatherbryant4197]

Who's Shane? :P

[@mjfanta1915]

Becoming???

[@SekRanger]

@@heatherbryant4197 Her name is Shannon... if I remember correctly.

[@heatherbryant4197]

@@SekRanger It is. I was just teasing because you wrote "Shane" instead of "Shan" :)

[@nathanieljohnson5555]

But thats the thing as a Ti-Ni myself, thinking that deep feels amazing, uncovering the hidden truths of the world’s concepts, and then tucking that info away for a more useful time is the best thing to do. I’m currently studying reality theory based through the CTMU, and it is fantastic. I’m always surprised that people don’t think deeper about things.

[@user-hk6yu5yf2w]

Ok I need to know what reality theory is

[@nathanieljohnson5555]

@Gamma Quadra okay, what would you deduce I am

[@nathanieljohnson5555]

@@user-hk6yu5yf2w its essentially a composed diagram and dissertation explaining how reality in short is a informational organism of self realization. Syntax - State communication and a recursive language set upon rules and foundational knowledge, and then creating our reality based on this, like space, time, personification.

[@nathanieljohnson5555]

@Gamma Quadra i thought I was just about every type over the last 5 years, I never in a million years thought I would be istp, it wasn’t until deep research and studying of the fears and of course the observer vs decider freak outs that helped me. I do not have a video yet, but we could speak via zoom or something of the like.

[@nathanieljohnson5555]

@Gamma Quadra I have a 3 minute video

[@GistNowI]

You see/generate the world through concepts, these concepts are largely defined by ‘your’ (dominant) cognitive functions. Buddha says you are not your functions, you are the awareness of your functions 🙏🏼

[@youdontknowthat45]

I'm NT and I'm exhausted. Haha

[@powerforu94]

E is for Emily, NT is for Night Time rat cam videos

[@youdontknowthat45]

@@powerforu94 hahaha oh noooooo. You're not supposed to consume that

[@powerforu94]

@@youdontknowthat45 My Consume shall not be contained

[@StephanieJeanne]

😂 Me too!

[@sophiaredwood5825]

This thread 😂

[@powerforu94]

Yeah the biggest thing OP taught me is to not take myself seriously. Like at all. (And I bet that's something someone of my type would say lol) *and I bet adding the above comment in brackets is also something someone of my type would do* ... And it keeps going to infinity :)

[@ClubENTP]

You Are Unique.... Just Like Everybody Else. lol

[@syedmazharhasan6803]

As an NT, I loved the clip of that guy explaining pi 🤣

[@wattle2394]

I loved it as an ESTP!

[@TheBookgeek7]

Who couldn't ?

[@TheBookgeek7]

😂😊

[@astolat2262]

Idk I actually thought it was kinda dumb, he just said "think deeply" like a cliche, and I was teaching math an hour ago so yeah, I'd think that guy was dumb if I was in his class I think

[@AnuvabGhosh-sx5eu]

​@@wattle2394you are entp

[@hunpo1]

"From one thing, know ten thousand things." --Miyamoto Musashi (INTJ?)

[@pebblebrookbooks4852]

I heard he was ISTP? But then again, there's that "ascetic who doesn't bathe" thing....

[@pebblebrookbooks4852]

@Lonely Surviver most sensing types bathe consistently, tho?

[@pebblebrookbooks4852]

@Lonely Surviver 😄😄😄

[@alyceGoRound]

lol was that doggo meme a "diss" at SF XD the "wtf" face of the doggo had me rolling

[@chantalx388]

That's how I interpreted it as well xD

[@tomaylott2593]

I think deeply about simple things… later. There are more objectively important things in the real world to do right now, so I can’t stop yet. But I will! (Later) SF Play 1st NT Sleep 4th

[@mjfanta1915]

"Oh god." -Dave, 2021

[@shiro1744]

Meanwhile, the Ne-T’s are wondering how this guy could think a plain old boring thing like pi could be “weird” when there are concepts like wave-particle duality, quantum entanglement, and Shan’s inability to not laugh to puzzle out.

[@ProbablePaul]

Iuno, I mean, pi appears in almost every aspect of the universe: waves and circles are practically interchangeable. Could wave-particle duality exist without pi? It makes sense to me given his elaboration and emphasis on thinking deeply about fundamentals; sounds like thinking from first principles.

[@fckyafeelingz4064]

I love you both so much right now

[@CH-tv1cy]

@@ProbablePaul once you understand how pi is calculated it actually makes perfect sense and isn't that wierd though.

[@ProbablePaul]

@@CH-tv1cy Sure, maybe to someone who understands, but if you're trying to encourage thinking from first principles, pi is a great example of something that is universal to a point of it being quite strange. I understand how pi is calculated, and still believe it's relationship to every circle, and wave, (and triangle) to be strange. Sure, you can comprehend it, but it will always be fascinating and eye opening if you've never thought about it before.

[@G.F.SF55]

​@@ProbablePaulso does e tho, pi ain't *that* special, ykwim?

[@KajsaBernhardina]

I wish I was NT. They’re so cool. They have this superhuman thing to them. I feel like a little butterfly next to my smart NT friends. /NF

[@SankalpJain-vh8wn]

We can't feel life as well as Sensory people. Think about that. We literally don't feel the icecream or the wind as well as sensory people do.

[@user-hk6yu5yf2w]

@@SankalpJain-vh8wn I am N. And that sucks so bad.

[@oscarl.3563]

A little butterfly next to a big butterfly: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYaZmYd8i7B5ppY#t=4m16s

[@sophiaredwood5825]

As an NF, I completely agree. NT people absolutely dazzle me. I love you guys.

[@gistar22]

You mean being Autistic ? it's kinda of a ride

[@perjohanaxell9862]

I don't know, the quality of the your videos have really gone down for quite a while. You used to explain things now days its jusi incoherency, clips and interruption.

[@philosopherlogic]

This was me and logic derivations when I took intro to modern symbolic logic. I pissed my professor off like this. I originally didn't understand and it ate away at me so I sat there for 12 hours (no joke it pissed my ISFJ mother off) working out EVERYTHING. Looking for tricks, different problems coming in the future, more efficient ways of going the derivation, etc. And day in day out I sat there for 12 hours figuring it all out playing within the sandbox of logic, I was so determined to master this minor irrelevant aspect of logic no one actually does. 6 years later I became the professor lmao. Those 12 hour days paid off because I mastered that shit lmao. And my KZbin channel are those very derivations lmao.

[@elainecary2884]

why does this feel like peacocking lol

[@philosopherlogic]

@@elainecary2884 I over share (blast first). And sharing a story doesn't mean peacocking.

[@Eta_Carinae__]

Yup. If I had more time, certainly. I usually just settle for the proof I find that makes the most sense without the least conceptual baggage, otherwise I'd run out of paper.

[@philosopherlogic]

@@Eta_Carinae__ I wish! The concept it's needs to be understood in all cases. Like direct vs indirect derivations. I needed to figure out why one was used in X case when an indirect derivation was used in Y case. Why would I not CD but ASS ID when typically I'd CD the conditional proposition. It was awful. The worst part is when I'd encounter new rules I'd blow up my logic professor asking why we didn't learn P rule or Q rule when they're much faster for a certain derivation. When I REALLY got stuck (4 hour plus of constantly restarting when getting stuck) I'd ask for help at like 4am only to not provide no fucking screenshot so he could see what I was doing. It's insanely embarrassing. Like obviously you should provide a screenshot if you're doing a 300+ line derivation and get stuck so the professor would find your fuck but no my dumbass always forgot. The proof/rule is never enough if it doesn't work in all cases. I wish I were sensory dominant, I wouldn't sound as crazy. Who gives a shit about irrelevant derivations no will ever use in real life but I was so obsessed with mastering them and lucky I teach them now but outside of that and teaching LSAT prep they're useless. Sensors are lucky af and I envy them.

[@ProbablePaul]

Proofs are kind of a pain in the ass if you want to know the why of things. I had a hard time initially because I wasn't willing to ask the amount of questions I needed to, but it sounds like you did, which I found is completely necessary to understand this stuff. Granted, I only took a survey class which briefly covered propositional logic to prepare for predicate logic - are these similar to symbolic logic? Seems so to me. Although, I'm not familiar with the acronyms you mentioned in one of your replies. Are those the rules of inference?

[@broadbandtogod]

Poor doggo

[@StyBekka]

The Maths guy is Eddie Woo - Maths teacher named Australian of the Year. He has a youtube channel showing all tips and tricks

[@ProbablePaul]

It's a terrible habit as an NT, to assume people are aware of all the things going on in your mind as you're speaking to them. Sometimes I talk to people like they can read my thoughts. Like, as I'm explaining something to them, I'm trying to find the right wording, but when I do find it, it's like my mind acknowledges finding it and stops there. It never comes out, but I continue to explain things as if I had expressed it. My partner regularly tells me I start conversations as if I am continuing a conversation we started earlier, but actually hadn't. "It's like you sometimes think everyone can see your thoughts."

[@globalamoeba8910]

Low blast?

[@adhistie1694]

Thats an entp thing, an infj pointed that out to me

[@justinwhite2725]

INTP - someone asks me a question on a topic I should know the answer... I usually say "I don't know - and now I need to know" google first to give a quick overview answer and then spend the rest of the day consuming information to cover the gap in knowledge.

[@oscarl.3563]

I love that breed :). It's the same with the enneagram and other systems. People do their type-thing all the time. The words they use, absolutely everything points to what kind of human they are.

[@sophiaredwood5825]

NT makes absolutely no sense to me- sounds cool, but not cool enough. Meanwhile, I WILL take it upon myself to mentally tear apart every single interaction I have with people to find hidden meanings and truths about their identity, my identity, and what’s driving all of us to view each other and the situation how we do. I wish I were joking. It’s rather grandiloquent, and it’s my every day. ~supposed MM Ne/Fi CS/P(B)

[@Shirikatsu]

A better world isn't what everyone wants so I get you.

[@lordpehoo]

Poor dog.... That guy really messed up his dog's brain.

[@meganwarr6258]

Honest question… if you are typing people based on their behavior then of course you would never see them exhibit behaviors outside of their type because you are using their behavior to type them. It’s circular logic. If you saw someone exhibiting a behavior not in their type then you would just type them differently. So I’m just unsure how that proves you are typing them correctly or they are all computers spitting out their functions.

[@absinthesesotericadventure7631]

It pisses me off when people can’t go find the knowledge or do things themselves, I mean if the tools are there for you, why be lazy? I usually put those people in the stupid basket

[@allikariel]

It’s called conservation of energy. Not that it’s a good thing but if someone already knows they could figure something out, why take the long road when there’s an easier way and other things you could do with your time…apart from building character…depends on your values.

[@omarmaissour4638]

I tried to type my self but i ended up thinking i have the same amount of each personality type and that i have the choice to be whatever i want to be so easily because I'm in the center of everything 😃

[@globalamoeba8910]

Lol sounds like Ne saviour feminine Di

[@omarmaissour4638]

@@globalamoeba8910 feminine... how dare you 🤣🤣🤣

[@jazzmoon77]

So the “smart guy” who got it is a comedian named Peter Berner. The blonde woman is an entertainment reporter and daughter of a very conservative politician- not known for intellect.

[@wendybird7059]

I can’t not see myself as an TiNe idiot. I can’t escape the gravity of it. Blah blah blah...it’s all I do. ALL DAY. BOOO. So annoying.

[@NoraRoisin]

I'm wondering why it's so surprising that each person is preaching their saviours? I assumed people had personalities as a child. And then I looked on top of that to see who the individual is. I love seeing both the similarities and the differences between people. Because of similarities, we can relate. Because of differences, other people are actually interesting- there is something there to get to know (of course it can also go the other direction; love/hate). Also, we do need to have others' saviours preached to us so we break out of our small, tiny bubbles of assumptions. I need to hear from those who are different so that I question myself.

[@mack7686]

Yea I’ll settle for ExxP for the time being. Takes a lot more self work to figure out the middle part.

[@shiro1744]

That one thing alone is probably the most important thing to know anyway! Most ExxPs are just interesting variations on the same "Missing Information!!!!!!!!!" theme.

[@mack7686]

@@shiro1744 indeed. The missing info gives ExxPs something to do.

[@sharan9993]

U r probably not entp

[@mack7686]

@@sharan9993 ENFP maybe?

[@sharan9993]

@@mack7686 i dont know u but usually ne/ti users is like intp when ne is super charged. Since i am an intp, i could not sleep till i figured out my type hence entp would hav not stopped at any cost. But u can ping me we can figure it out

[@shmlanda]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’ve not known many distinguishably NT-like people, few and far between. I generally find that I bore them.

[@jeffreysherman8224]

Why does predictability equal " you're not real"? I don't understand their logic. "I know what you're made of and how you operate, therefore you don't exist." That doesn't make sense. Someone please explain.

[@tomaylott2593]

They’re using the word “real” in a weird way. They don’t mean it literally. Obviously we are real and problems are real. But they aren’t really REAL real. You know? They’re just regular old real

[@mzi668]

Real here is defined as a problem that has never been solved before. In essence, it's a mental challenge they are talking about. These kind of problems are "real" to NT's because these problems require a person to theorize and go into the unknown in-order to solve them. Something that "NT"s love to do.

[@dday9433]

I interpret their "you're not real" to be a disparagement of an individual's self perception of "different-ness" or of being "special" or individualized from others, especially when trying to see themselves. I think they are saying the way one feels about one's self facing life challenges is not "real." Imo, its a TERRIBLE and intellectually lazy term for "predictable" or "anticipatable" (as you pointed out).

[@cratcliff8820]

My Ni has to serve my Te though. Im not delving into just anything. There has to be a reason for it. It has to serve a purpose 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@mrbullmrbull]

Exactly. Ti on the other hand is more driven by a pure curiosity and it's also cool

[@drosos_strength_coaching]

I spit in as far as I could one day and asked myself: what angle gives my spit or any object the longest distance? Then i proceeded to solve the problem with a constant math and initial velocity to find the perfect angle. It didn't quite work cause i forgot to zero one variable. Then I watched a video that solves the problem to completion. Then i was complete myself. The thing is that one had told me in the past that the angle was 45° but I needed to do the actual math myself to back it up. That thing regularly happens in my life. Is that NT? If yes, what kind?

[@enfieldjohn101]

There really is nothing new under the sun is there? People in writing groups ask how they can write unique characters and tell stories that haven't been told before. I try to be as diplomatic about it as I can, sometimes I fail miserably when I'm already not in the best of moods, but I'll say basically that you can't. It can't be done anymore. All the stories have already been told - we're just re-telling them in somewhat different ways now. All the character types have surfaced already and everyone fits one of the types for the most part. No one is unique. The trick is figuring out which type you actually are rather than which type you wish you were.

[@lisaia7877]

Please give me the link to whichever remix of that wembawop song you used 😂

[@bananewane1402]

Me: “I don’t know why, but x” Also me: *Immediately starts listing possible explanations*

[@justinwhite2725]

And then later - you get to say 'I knew it, see I called it!' when reality is you said 5 different possibilities one of which was true. Though if you are like me you have 'weights' - these things are more likely to be true and these less likely, and you continuously pare the possibilities down with more information.

[@myheatgoesboomboomboom1655]

Im an nt i know im not smart enuf to understand it but il stil try to get the basic idea of it so i can see it in other things in the future

[@v3g499]

the background hurts my soul

[@tiffann9514]

Ok, so what is the main difference between ni and ti? For example, I've always been good at figuring out puzzle and problems, reading people, remembering the most random things (horrible at remembering details like numbers ... couldnt remember a phone number to save my life lol!) and am constantly analyzing. is that more of a ti process or a ni process? Or a combination of both or neither? Sorry I'm definitely a over analyzer!🤣

[@drwizarrd4421]

The simple description is Ni functions to gather information subconsciously in order to map out multiple abstract possibilities for the individual in an organized and streamlined manner while Ti functions to make decisions based on the individual's internal logical models or systems that are constantly being tested and verified to withstand the test of time. What you're describing would be Ne or Ni

[@sharan9993]

Ne

[@tiffann9514]

This is funny cause I have through for a long time I was a infj... Now taking a clear look at myself I'm starting to think I might be a enfp. Makes much more sense 🤣

[@drwizarrd4421]

@@tiffann9514 most likely. congrats 👍

[@ProbablePaul]

Sounds like you have Si to me, thereby meaning you have Ne. People with Ni have Se somewhere in their top 4 functions, and Se loves to not remember things: with so many impromptu excursions and adventures, there are many mistakes to endure the consequences of. But, to remember all of those consequences means less adventuring in the future which Se won't tolerate. It's hard to say whether you're not an INFJ, because you can have both Ni and Ti. My mom is an INFJ and with Ti in her third position, she is very analytical. As an INTP we can sit and analyze for a long time together, because we both have Fe. Granted, she tends to analyze things that are useful to her, and what she's trying to achieve. One way to tell if you have Ni or Ne is to think about your direction and security with your path in life. Ni tries to find the most useful pattern for the self, so in a way it guides us through life, whereas Ne serves to identify as many patterns outside of ourselves, whether they're useful or not. Both of these will be impacted by their shadow function coutnerpart. So, if you have Ne in your first four functions, Ni will fall in the last four functions or the shadow functions, which are expressed negatively. As a shadow function, Ni will cause you to doubt your ability to meet the high expectations you set for yourself. If instead that's reversed and you have Ni in functions 1-4 and Ne in 5-8, you would identify paths for yourself and follow them ambitiously with confidence, and Ne would mostly serve as a way to inform you of what not to do by observing the patterns of other people. When I was learning about type theory, I found linda berens site extremely useful, even though it's old, was made in the 90s and probably hasn't ever been updated. Here's a link describing what each position in the cognitive stack does: www.cognitiveprocesses.com/16Types/16Types.cfm There are also pages on there that describe what each function does on it's own. The difficult part in type theory is understanding how each cognitive function works in relation to it's given position, which ultimately results in a one of sixteen personality types.

[@nacht5033]

This video is good to slam on people who peacock themselves as an NT

[@isabella16939]

Well, it could also discourage the actual NTs because they will remember that one time they failed to figure out stuff like this. To people who think like that... It's not about failing or succeeding, but about how much you feel obligated to do this NT stuff, and how much energy you put into it.

[@ProbablePaul]

@@isabella16939The signalling of a peacock is over done, to their detriment. So, I think he means actual NTs trying to flaunt that they are NTs?

[@ProbablePaul]

NTs are generally the most independent types, so what makes you think they will care? If you tried to shove this in my face, it would tell me more about who you are as a person than it would make me think about who I am.

[@isabella16939]

@@ProbablePaul I think the OP is talking about people who type themselves as NT even though they clearly aren't. From what I see, a lot of NTs aren't gonna be able to relate to this video either. It's like one of their videos about how a lot of Si doms don't think they're Si doms because they feel like they're not good enough at Si. I honestly just feel like playing the devil's advocate at the moment :/

[@taliehkazemi3919]

@@ProbablePaul I cannot agree more

[@sedaniels8701]

Shan: I'm going to interrupt you... Dave's face: you don't say.

[@cymbol73]

Yes. Thank you. People speak their functions. It's crazy.

[@michaelbindner9883]

Does he make up stuff for himself or the tribe Ne? Is his inner world for himself or the tribe. He is validating what he knows Si. Observers are self and tribe based too. S is knowledge and N is Insight. He is blasting insight. Total INTP.

[@the0other]

her squeak at the end omg xDDD

[@craigmiller1870]

You can't have a pile of dirty clothes if you only have two pairs of pants. Grey with limited amount of slack. They juxtapose my firing demeanor.

[@biapicf1717]

what a relief, i'm not special. i just can't figure out my saviour function ☠️

[@ClubENTP]

ENTP Woman Are Very Intriguing To Me. I Need An ENTP Chick For A Friend.

[@jamesspartin117]

Ok great video but as someone who cant comprehend math because no one has never explained the why to me how do i find this guys videos and what is his channel called?????

[@vokvovkov]

It's Eddie Woo

[@jamesspartin117]

@@vokvovkov thanks

[@m.o4936]

I used to be like that up until a few years ago

[@imitry]

what happened with her makeup?))

[@lucyk2634]

What's so strange about thing deeply about seemingly simple things? 🤨 If you can't do that then you actually aren't NT

[@drwizarrd4421]

it's contradictory. if something is indeed "simple" then it's a waste of time to think deeply about it. It's also not about being an NT. An NT botanist who came up with a model based on patterns from their research will have some trouble getting their NT Zoologist friend to understand it or even get interested in it.

[@ironicfist399]

4:00 - 4:40 = PROFOUND!

[@CaveyMoth]

I'm NTn't.

[@aresicarus]

Have you guys checked 'honor society' in the first 20 min the main character is clearly an INTJ.. It is fun to check the way she freeked out after she miscalculated her odds...

[@MaverickJeyKidding]

Tests say i'm INTP, but i couldn't care less about the guy explaining that Pi thing. Because it doesn't trigger any deep emotional feedback and i can't connect or empathize with him. It's just math. It doesn't lead anywhere nor it shows any humanity. But i could care a bit about that guy explaning the trick cuz i see a potential to play with his emotions and offering him crazy weird ideas to see his reactions. That doesn't sound like INTP to me at all

[@Darren_S]

Looks like you guys saw the Math Problem post by Christina Rogers in the OP Facebook group. Lol

[@joelmirabito7390]

He's flipping the column values upside down but keeping the values that are in the circles in the same order to get x to the top in 3 flips?

[@gem2677]

I was gonna make a comment about “what about disruptive variables like taking medication from an early age. It may not shake pattern (and you’re acting like having a type is bad but I don’t think that’s bad) but what about changes in the “normal” development into the different stages of functions and animal modes? You already told us you are seeing the midlife crisis earlier. Things can change even if the base pattern stays consistent. And the base pattern doesn’t have to be a bad thing now that you two are giving us the tools to not let it wreck our life.” which is why I’m delaying my own typing I want more distance from coming off, But Dave makes it so tempting to only type “I’M SPECIAL >:D” just to troll him and his Ni harder

[@notremarchedelafin]

The dog was adorable!! ahaha!! INTP here lol

[@FrownyMascot]

1:26 great impression of me! 😆😆😆 FF SeFi CSPB

[@orangeziggy348]

Why do both of them hate being interrupted so much?

[@jamescah9230]

Ok great video, whatever, and enjoyed the dog clip, but where did that clip in the beginning come from? Seriously I am going to be fucking bothered by this all day.

[@omarmaissour4638]

Or maybe I'm just already developed in an unconscious way so that's why it's hard to define my saviors and demons or if I'm a deciders or observer it feels like I'm in the middle of everything and i have a bet of everything

[@ostranenieminnie]

do you make NTs mad when you give up on NT-ing as they're explaining something to you?

[@sharan9993]

Yessssssssss

[@scrillion6]

I’m too drunk for this

[@martinabesana4036]

I don't know, I don't feel allowed to be any type. I think I am one specific type but maybe I'm wrong... Idk I want the permission to think that I'm that type

[@darklight898]

Didnt get what u guys meant between 1:50 and 2: 20

[@diplomat2623]

They just blasted all of humanity! 😭😭😭

[@underwaterpanther]

I can’t not go deep it suuuucckkksss 😂 I introduce myself that way now like if you’re in you’re in if you’re not your not haha

[@sleepylilac69]

personally i find this type of thinking kinda annoying. i could follow the logic if i took the time to figure it out but i'm kinda like. why

[@PinkSheep2005]

We really are unable to see ourselves!

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

My dad is an NT, and my god does he miss the SF. N O B O D Y… and I mean NOBODY…. CARES!!! I feel bad for him, but it is also like, dude… you are 70. How don’t you know yet?!? 😆

[@z.s.hughes]

I literally paused the video and tried to find the clip from the news studio just so I could see if I understood the concept. Only to not find it and watch a little more of your video. Then you guys say that NTs will admit when they don't know something and wont rest until they understand it. How ironic. Anyways, how can I watch that clip?

[@z.s.hughes]

I found a new life mantra.

[@kindauncool]

3:33 I THINK THIS ALL THE TIME

[@IndieAuthorX]

Typed as double activated NT play, I feel like it comes out in me needing to avoid my tendency to pick intellectual arguments. I am demon Te, so despite my desire to engage, I often am not taking responsibility for the rational space like I should. Lacking any real Si activation, I am poor at citing the sources of what I have learned (though I probably consumed way more than you). I think the best path forward is to get in the habit of reviewing the known facts before trying to argue, spur of the moment. Also, just to contradict the anecdote, I will probably not "Know why" regarding the math and not go forward with understanding it, because I do not like numbers or mathematical puzzles. I will try to puzzle out philosophical concepts. Though, intuitive as I may be, my IQ is wanting when pursuing some deep understanding. #mfnefi #consumeplayblastsleep

[@Brenda-by9mf]

I understand you, I'm Ne/Te PC/B(S). I hate not being able to cite my sources.

[@TruthisgreaterthanTradition]

Lion's live in the Savannah, not the jungle. FYI

[@jewls695]

No I’m not neurotypical. Edit: oh.

[@speakersr-lyefaudio6830]

That dog has big stoner energy.

[@nadal4488]

Can you type El professor from the serie la casa de papel please

[@pocketfulofposey]

I’m not a nerd, no.

[@getreadywithmemamma6973]

Hahahah damn. Loving the Te hulk, or Ti nerd that you found. Wait, INTJ. INTP. INTJ.

[@michaelbindner9883]

Ne comes up with ideas for tribe. The tribe hates it, which is she ENTP and INTP never get laid.

[@acceptable1000]

great video

[@goddesserosofia]

This poor dog!!!! LMAO

[@popeye747]

The perception of this channel and content is this couple seems to enjoy picking on the NT type. Oft times, it is maddening to comprehend the observations and points they try to make. They are often obtuse.

[@ProbablePaul]

I've felt this way before, too. That bernie video they made, and this one. I've only seen them describe Ti in a positive light, and in relation to the perceiving functions, they only talk positively of STs.

[@user-hk6yu5yf2w]

Time to turn stupid from mastermind

[@josephglenn1471]

More evidence that you guys have a not so subtle bias against Ti/Ne

[@Bhfvbji]

The funny clips They use are very high in boomer nrg

[@noturbo]

What?

[@noturbo]

@Remy B thanks 😁

[@natclo9229]

I'm special

[@mserth22]

Why is this hard for you guys to accept?

[@gem2677]

*grumble* Ok, I'm back and I hope you two see this or someone bashes it on them for me. Any M De's scrolling through the comments? I'm not in De mode this shouldn't be my job I'm just the ignored alarm system. I should /hope/ one of the mes or five has already told you two this, but I don't like the indicators I was picking up in this video (and yes I'm probably savior functioning, but I don't give a damn I see a very real possibility of this me or a different me or complementary type needing to do a lot of work if I don't do my little savior alarm job here, and *we do not want more work, asshole, you're supposed to be working on that right?*) so I'm here to add to the pressure train because even if they did I'm sure it was brushed aside or ignored: You need to counter balance the desensitization from being able to predict every single person all the fucking time. Take a break, leave some piece of work unfilled to leave some surprise, put typing on hold to learn more about trains and planes, something. If you need to take a break from interacting and typing people then rope in some babies and Take Your Break. Fuck the tribe and their whining. I can tell you it's gonna be a much bigger problem for everyone if the two of you get so burnt out every feeling fixer who takes a look at you goes "damn, work. I gottta fix that." Then you'll be unhappy, and we'll be unhappy, (and *I* won't have such good quality content and might feel pressured to do something -do not want- ok there's my motive) and no one will have won. So *take some damn care of yourselves.* There. Work done. Baton passed for now. See you in a few months to annoy you again I'm sure. Respectively, team grumpy NF. Grumpy something out.

[@alargeaviary4895]

Dave said to me 'well, you don't talk like the other ISFJs we know... but you sure look like one, so you must be one!" :D Stick to one truth, Dave, you keep contradicting yourself.