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Ian Nepomniachtchi vs Magnus Carlsen
World Blitz Championship (2010) (blitz), Moscow RUS, rd 37, Nov-18
Modern Defense: King Pawn Fianchetto (B06)
1. e4 g6 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nc3 d5 4. ed5 Nd5 5. Bc4 Nc3 6. bc3 Bg7 7. O-O c5 8. Re1 O-O 9. Ng5 Nc6 10. Ba3 Qa5 11. Qc1 e6 12. Ne4 b6 13. Bb2 Ba6 14. Ba6 Qa6 15. a4 Rfd8 16. d3 c4 17. d4 Ne7 18. Qe3 Nd5 19. Qg3 Rac8 20. Bc1 Rd7 21. Bg5 Qa5 22. Reb1 f5 23. Rb5 Qa6 24. Nd2 Qb7 25. Rbb1 Qc6 26. Bf4 Re8 27. Re1 a6 28. h4 b5 29. ab5 ab5 30. Be5 Be5 31. Re5 Qd6 32. Rae1 Rde7 33. h5 Rg7 34. h6 Rge7 35. Rb1 Qa6 36. Rbe1 Qa3 37. Qg5 Nc3 38. Nb1 Nb1 39. Rb1 b4 40. d5 b3 41. cb3 c3 42. de6 c2 43. Rc1 Rc7 44. Ree1 Qb2 45. Kh2 Qb3 46. Qf6 Qc3 47. Qc3 Rc3 48. Re2 Rec8 49. e7 Kf7 50. e8Q Re8 51. Rec2 Rc2 52. Rc2 g5 53. Rc7 Kg6 54. Rc6 Kh5 55. Kg3 Rg8 56. Rf6 f4 57. Kf3 Rg6 58. Rf7 Kh6 59. Kg4 Rb6 60. Rf5 Rb2 61. Rg5 Rf2 62. Rh5 Kg6 63. Rg5
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[@reaganabroad4952]

I'm team: Decisive Games. I'm hoping for at least three non-draws.

[@quackerquackquacks3217]

0 take it or leave it

[@thechosenone1192]

i m more hoping for decisive games with even numbers both winning same...then we can see rapid too..

[@bloomtwig76]

That is a huge ask

[@SonySingh-bh7xb]

@@thechosenone1192 nepo is the kind of person who will go for win definitely

[@jonathanhutton5100]

YES, exactly!!

[@KarlRKaiser]

In the hypothetical line at 10:40 Ne5 does not win black's Queen, since black can take it with f x e4. However h7 is an unstoppable pawn promotion to a queen.

[@abhi_galav]

i also noticed that pawn can capture the knight saving king, queen and leaving white with one piece less

[@elakstein]

Can you explain how is it unstoppable ?

[@abhi_galav]

Pawn takes knight, white queen takes black knight, queen to e1 check, king moves to h1, queen takes f2, Now pawn at e4 is protected and if all go fine, nothing is stopping that pawn

[@KarlRKaiser]

Before this, at 10:31, white does not have to check with the knight. Just play pawn h7. The rook is pinned and cannot capture. Black has one check to make with the queen, but then white queens with check.

[@elakstein]

@@abhi_galav yes but technically both the statements are wrong, the queen isn't gone(not forced) and the pawn can be stopped (tho extremely difficult but it's promotion isn't forced).

[@carlingtonme]

Magnus he has taken on an array of different challengers over a long period pf time.Nepo is a worthy challenger but I think MCs mental toughness is a factor I wouldn't underestimate

[@johnstrawb3521]

What is this foolishness about whose 'team' we're on?

[@MarkEWallace]

@@johnstrawb3521 What is this foolishness about what foolishness this is?

[@TheCursedJudge]

As much as I like Nepo, considering the form Magnus has been in lately, I heavily doubt that the champion title will change hands this year.

[@andreitiberiovicgazdovici]

Totally agree.

[@johnkildea2796]

I agree but I also don't think anyone has a better chance than Nepo right now.

[@andreitiberiovicgazdovici]

@@johnkildea2796 also agree

[@TheCursedJudge]

@@johnkildea2796 I think that's fair

[@PhilL30tard0]

@@johnkildea2796 Wesley So for sure.

[@ideal7871]

10:39, I may have missed something but can't just black take the knight in e4 with the f pawn?

[@muhammadhazim8176]

Yeah

[@nathanong87]

Because the pawn on h6 will promote. The rook is still pinned to the king, and after 1 check from the black queen , there aren't other checks to stop the pawn from white pawn from queening.

[@ideal7871]

@@nathanong87 Thank you for explaining

[@gladhobo]

@@nathanong87 The pawn on h6 can promote even prior to the knight moving to e4. I think Ideal's point is that knight to e4 is a wasted move.

[@gladhobo]

I take it back. The engine prefers Ne4+, but not because (as Agadmator suggested) it wins the queen.

[@mridgaf3233]

I love Nepo's style of play, I think most of us do. However, Magnus has such a deep understanding of the game, especially the endgame, that it's hard to see him losing the match. Should be an interesting match either way 🍻

[@vivekjoshi5207]

Very well said 👍🏼

[@Vmac1394]

I would be rooting for Nepo because he's fun to watch but that manbun is making me root for Magnus.

[@gauravmisra564]

Team Magnus. Nepo is a great player too, though

[@luisgbgamer]

I read an article recently on how Nepo winning this match with his aggressive style would be more interesting for the world of chess. I'm afraid, however, that this might be a very unbalanced WC match, Magnus might destroy him.

[@KaranS2022]

Imagine if nepo wins

[@ButcherParry]

Might indeed

[@JeremyRobertWalker]

In case anyone is still wondering, yes, Magnus is THE destroyer of fortresses

[@MrK623]

The chances are greater that Nepo will make a small error because he tends to play too quickly.

[@Cnut_the_grape]

I don't think we're gonna see a lopsided WC match ever again

[@thesilenthero422]

10:35 could the knight not be captured in this position? fxe4

[@amfulger]

"This is a blitz game so we're not going to over analyze it." Followed by a 20min video over analyzing it.

[@redpill2675]

I just want to see good chess. I don't care if there's a draw showcasing a tough and complicated battle, nor would I mind a one player dominating the other as long as the loser gives the winner a good run for thier money!

[@tonym2513]

One player dominating the other as long as the loser gives the winner a good run for their money? Clearly you don’t understand what the word dominate means.

[@johnkildea2796]

I can't wait for this match in Nov. Very excited.

[@shreeyamittal1771]

If you look at what they've been doing this year, Magnus continously trashing people in tournaments and Nepo at home with his head in a book(or training), I'm pretty sure Nepo has a couple of explosive tactics to spring on Magnus. I'm not underestimating Magnus, though. He's not one to run from a challenge. Safe to say, it is not possible to oversell the 2021 World Championship. Edit: Yeah, thanks for pointing that out. Must've missed it.

[@Zoomo2697]

That is even more of a reason to back 'Magnus'. You don't get people to attend Mass or say the Rosary just by putting a Missal in their hands or some beads at their feet! 🙏

[@aluminiumknight4038]

@E e this is not your channel shut up

[@Zoomo2697]

@@aluminiumknight4038 Great to have strong opinions. Intolerant in Principle. God Bless Mr. Knight

[@johnkildea2796]

I agree. If anyone can beat Magnus it's Nepo I think. Solid enough player to not lose but also creative enough to find 1 win in this match. But can never under estimate Magnus.

[@michaelscott5653]

I have a feeling Nepo is gonna get thrashed by Magnus

[@Waywind420]

Nepo is a dangerous player, with dangerous ideas. Team magnus all the way, but Nepo has me worried

[@Scriabinfan593]

Yeah same here. Nepo will cause many problems for Magnus, but I think Magnus will be able to prevail. Nepo can definitely win though.

[@manisdogfish]

Thanks for this series before the WCC 2021!

[@Equinoctilus]

8:05 here we see the rare fianchetto'd rook

[@orhunkercek7420]

I like Nepo`s style more, he is more aggressive and he creates beautiful attacking games, however performance-wise he is not in the level of Magnus yet. Magnus is winning almost every tournament he plays in lately and he is a clear favorite in this match up. I think Magnus deserves to keep his title so I am on Team Magnus on this one even though I like watching Nepo`s games more

[@anfrewllaves1752]

Earlier this year Magnus really suffered, but going into the finals he appears to have caught a second wind. I was favoring Nepo, but now I'm leaning towards magnus because of how he finished the tour.

[@Boleslav4]

I agree Magnus is probably more likely to win, but I also never was on team Magnus or Nepo in the classical meaning. I am on team good interesting games/tournaments. Let the better player win, of course, but I do hope it will not be a roll-over, that would disappoint me. I want Nepo to give Magnus a run for his money and I want Magnus to do the same to Nepo. ;)

[@JeremyRobertWalker]

When you say aggressive, i read 'blind'

[@JoeDidIt]

@10:34 the point of Ne4 is not to pick up the queen, black will just capture with the F-pawn. the point is that after that you just push H7 and bring in another queen very soon. It also works without the Knight sacrifice but for some reason the engine enjoys this move. Maybe without the knight there is a faster mate.

[@josgultom3643]

10:40 maybe instead said checking king and capture the queen, knight there to be eaten, so 5th rank would be open and when the 3rd queen arrived, white can take the knight or limiting black's king space

[@ARandomUnicornDied]

They’re both great!

[@nimabaradaran3471]

Imagin all those names for the tournament was ended with Agad saying: "thank you guys for contribution to my channel."

[@sebastiankeleher8403]

Lol

[@ganapathyshankar4420]

10:40 Pawn can grab the knight.. how come black queen would fall.. can some one clarify 🤔

[@kurtzipagan6704]

Yeah, agadmator should say sorry about that for this accident

[@oloyt6844]

Brain fart

[@muhammadhazim8176]

I also noticed that 🤔🤔🤔

[@mikes.8647]

thank you, I also saw this and was like wtf

[@grnvold]

If the knight is captured, Nepo will queen his h pawn as the rook is pinned

[@ksharafuddin1152]

Many of your audience are masters and will be welcoming any challenge on Sunday or any other day. thanks for ur videos!

[@ShayminSkyy]

10:35 do I miss something in my calculation? Isn't the knight can be captured by the pawn on f5?

[@ExPwner]

Yeah, it can. Does anyone have a refutation?

[@buttermyeggrolllington6173]

Idk maybe it has something to do with pushing the past pawn

[@JW-qd3ol]

yeah, i have noticed more recently that Agad's hypotheticals have blunders in them

[@johnkildea2796]

100% has to do with if you capture the knight, the pawn promotes to queen losing the game. You'll either have to give up queen immediately or take the newly promoted queen with your queen. No way to stop it due to the pin on rook

[@johnkildea2796]

@@JW-qd3ol no you'll have to give up the queen or allow the pawn to be promoted because the Rook is pinned. If black captures the knight, White's next move is pawn h7 and nothing can stop pawn h8=Q

[@josiahmacfarlane4344]

10:33 Can't the pawn just take the knight? What am I missing here?

[@4cer356]

Then you just promote

[@tele-marmotte]

Looking forward for this next saga

[@con_el_maestro3544]

You know the fight is about to get messy @10:15 when Agadmator says "Check this out"😂

[@619Gotenks]

Tbf it was brutal lol

[@bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

are you going to do live streams commenting on some of their games? that'd be sooo cool

[@stevethach3340]

It's absurd how good these guys are

[@IndrajitRajtilak]

At 10:38, how is Ne4+ possible? Can't black capture the knight with the pawn?

[@Finn1e]

Me to my wife this morning: Sorry about giving you such hard time on a Sunday, but it's a very nice position.

[@SmartHobbies]

I’ve should have had my coffee before trying to think through this one.

[@milchkanne21]

Me is routing for Magnus! Hope he will defend his title! Cheers from Germany

[@ayotundeakanbi7802]

Magnus is a safer bet! I love upsets, though.

[@indramaniarora7901]

10:34. Can't I just capture the knight with the pawn?

[@marianosetula5666]

:D love your channel

[@Mjoodi_aljahmi]

10:33 how can he takes the queen? The pawn will take the knight

[@johnkildea2796]

If pawn takes knight, White's next move is pawn h7.... nothing can stop pawn h8=Q promotion as Rook is pinned

[@Mjoodi_aljahmi]

@@johnkildea2796 Awesome clarify.. appreciate it. Thank you

[@nathanaeldownes2848]

10:37… that is not a fork Antonio, the pawn just captures

[@hosseinkavand6876]

10:39 pawn captures knight. so you don't lose the queen. I think the best move may actually be h7 .

[@Th3Wick3dOn3YT]

I am not running an engine, can someone point out what is the real point of Ne4+ with the fork? it is indeed forcing but I don't see black forcing a perpetual with the Queen or anything after just h7. Was it an Agadmator suggestion or an Engine suggestion? @ 10:36

[@henrychipschannon1357]

NEZHMETDINOV'S BEST GAMES OF CHESS by Rashid N ezhmetdinov Translated from Russian by Karen Taylor Edited by Dale Brandreth, Jack O'Keefe, and Richard Cantwell Analysis checked by Richard Cantwell and Fritz 6.0 CAISSA EDITIONS YORKLYN, DE 2000

[@tcgdiscussions2413]

Magnus is my favorite player of all time.

[@jaimeduncan6167]

10:34 wins black queen? My guess is that the pawn in. H becomes unstoppable once one move it to h7 before attempting to win a queen. Am I missing something?

[@johnkildea2796]

That's correct. If black captures knight. He loses to next move h7. Nothing can stop pawn h8=Q as Rook is pinned

[@yogevpc]

No creative move in this game other than your beautiful explanations.

[@Jamsville]

10:36 Cant black just capture the knight with the pawn?

[@rajathsb8319]

Hi Agadmator... I am from India... Today India lost the cricket match against Pakistan and am really very sad... But your videos makes me happy... I have been watching your videos from one year everyday... I didn't know much about chess but now I have learnt so many things from your videos. Thank you

[@lopezmt5]

I wish them both the best.

[@danijelhinger6174]

Please check the knight move at 10.36 min time stamp - if the knight were to fork the king and queen as suggested- it can be taken by the black pawn. Right?

[@shadowphoenix8962]

Interesting quote!

[@noxeman2010]

@10:38 black can just take the knight with pawn and save the queen.

[@AdamGenesisArt]

Torn between Parallel Dimensions Sir Agad! 😎

[@dhilrukshanpradeep7265]

Team Chess forever 😍

[@macronas1239]

I was thinking of commenting "Team Chess" too!

[@faultier3215]

at 3:49, where agad is suggesting to go c4 with black right away, wouldnt bishop-a4 be a good move for Nepo to activate the bishop this way? could be the reason why magnus moved the rook first after that move, so this option for Nepo doesnt come with tempo anymore.. but i am probably missing something since im a 1400 pleb and only looked at the position for a brief moment

[@joeb4142]

Antonio do you strategically place Medo on the couch behind you before your videos or is he glued?

[@VaSavoir2007]

At 10:36, how do you win black's queen? Just fe4, the knight is en prise when it checks. I don't get it.

[@SupereKrakersik]

10:36 but pawn can take knight so how does this fork work?

[@synesthete23]

Both. Nepo is clearly the best challenger at this time, but Magnus is Magnus.

[@tylercox-philyaw613]

@10:37 why can't black capture on e5 with the pawn to avoid losing the queen in the fork?

[@mathisj6582]

Yeah... I'm team Magnoose. But I'm fine with Nepo winning also. Nepo is a great guy.

[@horvathrenata968]

Brilliant game

[@Nicks721]

Nepo doesn't have a positive score against me, I am better than Magnus!!!!!!!

[@magician531]

#suggestion the Chess Connects us game (that you participated in) set up by Judith Polgar for her Chess Connects uf Festival

[@olafslartibartfast5248]

Thank you, Antonio, for giving us these moments of relaxation in a turbulent world.

[@mfstewie385]

I would like to bet on nepo despite the odds

[@briant1745]

I just want an exciting match And full power Nepo is the guy to give us just that

[@IchMagZwiebel]

For those asking why the pawn can’t be captured at 10:38, I think that there is no stopping the h pawn in promoting.. Correct me if I’m wrong

[@adamleckius2253]

Reflection from looking at the score card: I've always been fascinated by the fact that basically the same super GMs are on top in both blitz and classical formats. Okay, some have edges in one or the other (for example, Hikaru being a blitz specialist, Caruana perhaps less so compared to his classical), but basically the same field. Compare this to sports for example, sprint vs long distance runners.

[@manangupta1902]

Interesting Analogy. Never thought of this. Maybe it's because these players play all three formats almost equally compared to track runners who focus on one thing

[@haskomeyer4924]

In chess it is basically the same skillset, only honed in differently for different time formats. Also, cognitive skills can be acquired/improved without directly trading another one (but losing over time if not employed enough). Whereas in muscle performance, the specialisation to the one end hampers performance at the other end, it is a trade-off. Interesting would be to look at a different field of brain work. If you gather the best chess players who also are good at quantum physics and best quantum physicists who can play chess well, the same people would not flock at the top for both fields. But, because one life is not enough time to cover both. Would it be possible if they had two lives in parallel, or is the way of thinking too different as well?

[@0wenfox]

I like both of them as people and prefer Nepos crazier playing style 😜🙂

[@stefanvuckovic8818]

10:36 pawn captures

[@caleesy]

10:39 isnt it just pawn take knight ? how can we win the black queen, am i missing something ?

[@themoneyking2765]

10:39 capture with pawn

[@henrychipschannon1357]

10:34 win Black's queen? But pawn takes knight and that's the good stuff boka.

[@Ani-Albanian]

Wow fitting quote

[@andrearaimondi29]

@8:30 couldn't black pick up the knight with the f5 pawn?

[@aaronaourane4208]

10:38 why the pawn on F5 cannot capture the knight ??

[@VylinJanKranBlanMichal]

What are your predictions for the next saga? I think Polgar saga was the most frequently mentioned, though I'm personally rooting for the Karpov saga.

[@brooksrussell5695]

How does ne4 check win the queen if black can just take with the e5 pawn? Am I missing something??

[@094_sujithkumar4]

13:43 It is better for black if Qd1 was played 👍😄

[@paki6277]

I just woke up and may be a bit tired, but I cant see how white wins blacks queen at 10:36? Just fxe4? The knight can be taken by the f pawn lol? How do you win the queen as Antonio says?

[@henrychipschannon1357]

I must confess : you are an udnag and a tremendously boka guy. Thanks man

[@stalkinglikecandy]

'But ok, it's a blitz game.' Sounds more and more like a euphemism for 'And... Nepo played yet another bad move.'

[@MrCostantinho]

At 10:36 why can't the black pawn capture the knight? That fork doesn't seem like a great threat

[@namikazeswapnil671]

Exactly. I think agad didn't consider this in excitement 😂

[@immichaelyoung]

I may just be a low-rated idiot missing something obvious, but same question here…

[@nathanong87]

Because the pawn on h6 will promote. The rook is still pinned to the king, and after 1 check from the black queen , there aren't other checks to stop the pawn from white pawn from queening.

[@cowboy555551]

@@nathanong87 yes this is it

[@MrCostantinho]

@@nathanong87 thank you for your insight Nathan! Although I don't think that's why agad said it (he says "you win black's queen" he doesn't mention the pawn) that's something I definitely would have not noticed, so thanks again for your comment

[@Indysippi]

I really love the way nepo plays.. Ivanchuk is my fav and his play reminds me of him.. But he seems kind of like a chess snob.. Maybe I'm wrong, just observations from interviews

[@nephandi2316]

10:30 I don't get why fxe4 doesn't work in this position ? Pawn is not pinned, that's not a double check so King doesn't have to move I mean, just h7 instead and Black has nothing to stop promotion, so indeed Black is busted anyway.

[@cowboy555551]

Yeah idk why you couldn’t take with the pawn

[@BuzzSuite]

@10:34 Isn't there a problem with the fork with the knight threatening to take the Queen? The black pawn on f5 can take the knight on e4?!

[@Richard_Straker]

Team No One. I like both guys, let’s hope for some great chess.

[@shauncrowley3771]

At 10:39 agadmator says the danger is the fork, but the knight can be captured by the pawn, so is the real danger the pawn on H6 getting promoted? Some please explain if you can

[@akashroy-gq4vy]

The entire game revolves around the g7 square 😅

[@alaaroumeeh2752]

In 10:33 The pawn on f5 covers e4 how would you put the white knight there?

[@hu.hraoyd]

h6 pawn would push to h7 and you can't stop promotion.

[@chesstictactics]

I like both of them

[@marino4691]

I think 10:39 was Nepos Idea but he didn't quite figure it out completely

[@tayyab1]

10:34 Black can capture the knight?

[@nathanong87]

Because the pawn on h6 will promote. The rook is still pinned to the king, and after 1 check from the black queen , there aren't other checks to stop the pawn from white pawn from queening.

[@deanbarclay7793]

#suggestion Oh, how I hope the next saga is the David Bronstein Saga!

[@bobkreme2175]

bobby fisher clan forever ❤️

[@yeagerist977]

carlsen>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bobby

[@stt5v2002]

Magnus in the WCC is like Kipchoge in the marathon. While the opponents are impressive and upsets can happen, you would want some very good odds to bet on it.

[@Prasen1729]

10:34 : queen cant be captured as the black pawn can capture the Knight

[@yacinebenhissen2363]

10:33 knight b4 check could be taken!

[@panda4247]

Hehe I wanted to play Nf3 alreadt a few moves ago to shift it to g5. So actually, i would play it in a blitz game but not calculated all the lines and i probably wouldn't play it in classical

[@Glock_50]

A Magnus super fan over here! Love the content Agad!!! Peace

[@georgeray649]

I love both.