Are You Using Pedals and Modelers Wrong?

[@notonyourlife7939]

The problem that many players have transitioning from amps to modelers is that they assume they will be able to recreate the "amp in the room" sound they've known their entire lives. When that fails to materialize they conclude that modelers suck, and take to the airwaves to lament the fact that they're are incapable of doing something that they were never designed to do in the first place. The whole point is to create a RECORDED guitar tone, NOT the raw sound of a tube amp and a couple of pedals roaring away through a 4x12 a few feet from your head. Modelers create the combination of amp+speaker cabinet+the MICROPHONE that captures it all. The legendary tones that we all grew up associating with a particular guitarist are NOT what those rigs would have sounded like if you had been standing next to them in the studio the day those albums were recorded. This crucial difference seems to be lost on a lot of folks...

[@otaviosmartins1]

I use my Dream 65 on the edge of breakup, always. After using it for a long time before time based effects, I’ve found that the Dream on the end of the chain, wich creates a dirtier/more compressed sound is actually my kind of sound. And it sounds HUGE in stereo haha. Awesome video man! Keep uo with the good work

[@stephenlarcovic9654]

Thanks, Corey! I will put my fuzz before the 1176, as you suggested !

[@masterofreality230]

I think UA should release a Multi effects. All of the new cheaper pedals they released are 100% digital, I would rather get them in a multi effect vs paying for them separately.

[@DougB-pg1tf]

Corey-Could you contribute some artist presets to UA, especially for the Dream 65? Thanks, man.

[@coreycongilio]

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[@jerryhorton5708]

Now that was an informative, practical, and kickass demo. Thanks, Corey!

[@stephenlarcovic9654]

Where would I put fuzz and overdrive pedals in this chain . . . after the 1176 but before the Dream 65? Thanks!

[@coreycongilio]

That would be my suggestion. Although I like fuzz before the comp

[@CraigularjJoeWoodworks]

These ua amp pedals look cool but they are too expensive for 1 flavour. Strymon does it for less

[@kirbyjakescarborough4515]

Hey cheers Corey! Man, I've been gigging with my dream pedal for a whole tourist season in Florida. i put a tuner, an MXR Sugar drive and a mini delay with it and its been gold. Blowing minds of my friends (not my playing; just the pedal) LOL!!!😅😂🥰 Thanks for turning me on to the UAFX amps! I still love my Deluxe tuber though. I feel ya, man. LOL

[@progpogs]

Analog to digital conversion before my amp? Is anyone concerned about that? What about if you put an analog pedal before this, are you clipping an A/D converter like an audio interface in a bad way or do they handle that too?

[@coreycongilio]

I don’t understand the question unfortunately. The pedals are designed to accept any type on input or output. As for an “amp” I’m not using an amp as these are going directly to the Daw.

[@progpogs]

​@@coreycongilio Thanks for trying to answer, sorry of I'm unclear, I just hear from others that too many analog to digital conversions in your chain can be a bad thing. It doesnt seem to matter for time-based effects, since the processed signal can come out slightly offset with no issue, and many have analog dry through to that end. Its more unusual to see a digital drive/comp/etc though, although I see digital EQs from time to time. When it comes to stacking those things though, and clipping, analog clipping tends to be desirable, but I didn't know if clipping one of these pedals would be like clipping an interface, in that its not usually a good thing. I can ask UA I suppose too I'm sure theyve considered all this. Your vid sounds great though.

[@viktorshredguitar]

When I recording With the dream. Do I need to use linebox?

[@duncancartledge1667]

There’s another thing to consider with the UA amp pedals, I have the Ruby. They are unbuffered output pedals, no problem running into an audio interface which provides a buffer but they an have problems running into powered cabs . I had some issues running into Line 6 Powercab plus, went away using another pedal as a buffer in the signal. The buffer pedal doesn’t need to be switched on, just powered up and in the chain.

[@lukepowell1201]

Hey @Corey Congilio. How about a demo of the new UA Enigmatic ? The demos so far on the new pedal are sadly a little underwhelming from players who don't seem as familiar with "D" style tones or blues rock guitar techniques. For example, as much as I love @Rabea Massad, but he clearly knew very little about the history of Howard Dumble (got several facts wrong), and he went through the features without any acknowledgment of actually dialing in any ODS style tones in the vein of Santana, Larry Carlton etc. I think your study of Robben Ford's technique would show and your chops would really be in their element. Please get your 335 and show us what the Enigmatic is really supposed to sound like and what it is and is not capable of!

[@coreycongilio]

I hear you loud and clear. Join me Saturday for a livestream with Enigmatic!

[@lukepowell1201]

@@coreycongilio Hell yes!

[@Staticgrooms]

Informative but also inspiring! Im clearly underutilizing my Dream 65.

[@77bakker]

I’d love to do it this way, but with being in a cover band I find I need the odd effect here and there for a one off song, so the HX just works better for me.

[@orryfishburne5326]

Ive been using the Dream 65 since 2 months after it released. I really like it. I still find myself longing for a real good tube amp, but i love having the direct option for my pedalboard and it works well for me. I think it takes pedals very well also. Never used to be a modeler type of person, but i think UA did a fantastic job with this pedal. Sounds great, but it also feels good too. Signal chain goes OCE Pedals The Wrench V2, into the input of a Mesa Highwire Dual Buffer, send out of the Highwire to a Jam Pedals Wachko, into a Empress Compressor MkII, into a EQD Grand Orbiter V3, into a 903 Effects Rune (White Face Rat) into a King Tone The Duellist current version, into a Wamper Tumnus Mini, into a Keeley Super AT Mod, into a Kasleder Toxic Twins, into a Cornerstone Gladio, into the return of the Mesa Highwire, comes out of the output of the Highwire into the UAFX Dream 65, into a Ernie Ball VPJR, into a Boss MD-500, outputs of the MD-500 in stereo into a Styrmon Timeline, into a GFI Systems Specular Tempus, into a Walrus Audio Stereo Canvas then sends to my audio interface.

[@Wermode]

This is how I’m using my TONEX. I found great Deluxe Reverb, AC 30, and Marshall Plexi models, and I use the built-in reverb. Pedals needed for me are treble boost and Klone (Tumnus) before, delay pedal (Halo) after. Bingo! No amp needed and sounds great. Thanks, Corey!

[@bobbreckenkamp4641]

This is how I set up my board except I use the ACS1. I think it sounds very good, but still find it somewhat lacking "feel" when compared to my real amp rig with identical pedals (sans the Walrus). What is your experience with that?

[@coreycongilio]

Modelers will never feel like real amps. I’ve tried the Walrus against many other pedal modelers. To me it was the worst of the bunch by a mile.

[@bobbreckenkamp4641]

@@coreycongilio what are your favorite pedal amps?

[@RICO_SUAVE21]

Man that just sounds amazing! We’ve certainly entered a new age for great guitar gear and sounds 😊

[@Shawneverette]

Thats weird to think that would be a out of the box idea. Seens like the normal way to go! I have mt dirt, compession, mod and stufff in front of my Ruby and stereo out of the Ruby into verb and delay to a mixer. 11 Rack in the mixer for laptop drumloops. Mixer out to loop pedal into amp so I can record loops with drums and play with it. Standard set up to me. Cool video.

[@hekakain4108]

I have the Woodrow, Ruby 63 and the Dream reverb arriving over the next couple of days. I'm going to run them through the effects loop of the Friedman Runt 20 with my time based FX pedals et al.

[@ovivan79]

These pedals are awesome. I've got a Max > Unobtanium > QC with Golden RVB > Starlight/Halo in the FX Loop. I don't know what sound to play first with. :D

[@SerkanBerksoy]

Nice trick using compressor as boost. My Dream 65 is coming today and I'll definately try this. Thanks for nice video.

[@partriotsfight5039]

Um if anyone did say a fender amp tone couldn’t get you there doesn’t understand how to dial in a fender amp. For example go watch 5 things you need to do with your Deluxe Reverb Amp from Justin Ostrander. Talk about a killer lead tone. Add some delay or echo to the tone and who could want more?

[@jfrankcarr]

That's the way I've been setting up pedals and modelers for several years.

[@johnhamers4571]

Yeah, this makes sense I need 5 of those pedals to dream the dream 💯✌🏼Input control is so important I believe with that 1176 you have that job done as I can see 🤩

[@picksalot1]

I started off playing electric guitar with just an Amp, but soon added the classic pedals to create a usable pedalboard/rig. Next, I got an Amp Simulator pedal, then got a combination Amp Simulation/Effects unit. Then came s full fledged Floor Modeler. With each purchase, I was solving the limitations each rig had. I now use an HX Stomp, as it is small enough to sit on my desk, but also works in the floor, has tons of Amps, Cabs, Effects, Mics, etc., and has the versatility to do just about everything I want in the way I need. The UA Pedals sound very good, but one of the things that pushed me into using Modelers was the inability for most Pedals to save Presets. I could not put up with spending a lot of time to dial in an awesome tone on a pedal, only to have it vanish and become difficult to recreate when I had to change the Effect pedal settings for a different song. That was the main in the coffin for using such pedals.

[@DougB-pg1tf]

Hey Corey-is that a PRS DGT that you're using? Thanks Doug

[@landonkirk2825]

I’ve been running my pedalboard into an Iridium with York Audio IR’s for the last 2 years and it sounds amazing 🔥

[@MattGarwood777]

yooooouuuuuuu are gonna sell a lot of these pedals, dude… man it sounded great. Favorite was when you flipped that 224 reverb into the smaller room sound. Jaw dropped.

[@316word]

Wow I was just wondering about this the other day about these UA pedal amps, wondering about just using a few of those instead of the all in one deep dive menu type things that are out there

[@ThePandaProcrastinates]

That's cool! I never thought to put modulation after my Dream65. I was using it as a straight up "tube" amp and put everything before it.

[@Joormode]

i wonder if uafx recommend putting modulation after the dream 65 ?

[@coreycongilio]

@@Joormode Try both. I would prefer it before the amp as to not "modulate" my amp tone before hitting time based fx. However, Fender tremolo was placed after reverb in the original amps!

[@dannyprasetya2496]

"They encourage anyone to sit down and play.." if those people in your videos are the ones who sat down and play, I must be out of my mind trying to sit in your chair. 😅

[@aminahmed2220]

What a fantastic video have a good weekend corey 😊 ❤

[@JohnyPmusic2012]

Hi Corey! First of all, I love your playing and gear reviews. I'm a full-time musician performing mainly at senior residences. I love my Dream 65 pedal and I go direct into a Bose mixer and L1 Compact. I always struggle with setting the volume of my guitar, competing with vocals and backing tracks. I've considered getting a dedicated powered speaker like a Tech 21 Power Engine. Can you make any suggestions or share your experiences in this situation? Many thanks and keep up the great work!!

[@coreycongilio]

thx for that. I haven't really been in that situation but, I would think the bose mixer would suffice. Might be nice to have a monitor on the floor for guitar though.

[@Blohmdk]

Sounds awesome! Been using the Carl Martin Ampster, which comes with an effect loop - nice tones from that one, too - but this a killer setup. Guess I have to try the new UAFX effect pedals soon 🙂

[@jguse2378]

I took your advice and redid my pedal board today I'm running a Fulltone Full Drive 3 (I use as a boost) > Strymon Iridium > Wampler EQuator > Tremulator Plus > Strymon Blue Sky > 5 watt Fender Champ (edge of break up) Took me a moment to dial it in Pretty killer

[@coreycongilio]

Nice!

[@Ehsender]

Thank you for this! Got me inspired to setup a board much the same around a TC Combo Deluxe 65 pedal. While not identical, it’s functionally similar to the Dream. But I’m having some trouble dialing a good tone. Particularly around overall volume. I’m running essential the same chain into a Scarlett 2i2 into some JBL monitors or headphones. My issue is it’s either way to soft or clipping too easily. I’ve messed a lot with the gain on the Scarlett, guitar volume and on the pedals but just Cant seem to dial it in like I can through an amp. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks again!

[@thehamsandwichesths7503]

I have the same issue , I’d love to know what I’m doing wrong, my mesa mark 5 25 sounds 10million x better , yet your tone is amazing . I need to learn what I’m doing wrong with these amp in a box

[@partriotsfight5039]

Btw Corey I’d love to see you grow a killer beard man. You’re already like an oracle of sorts so a bitchen majestic looking beard would be so bad ass. I mean with that head of great hair you have your not gonna go wrong with it. Bring it down in a point like a Viking man. Bring on the beard.

[@coreycongilio]

😂I wish I could! It’s all patchy! But thx lol

[@rogerYT69]

cool thx! as my actual rig I use the uafx dream and IK tonex with pedals and frfr speakers. Easy to use and sounds good ;)

[@coreycongilio]

Nice!

[@Paul_Lenard_Ewing]

The UA compact Comp, Plate and Delay are bulletproof best of pedals for a live gig. Easy to change between tunes and all 3 have the potential of being always on pedals. A wedding band guy could even use them all. I am in an all original material power trio and handle it all. I write, play and am the only singer. You only get one chance for a first impression and the majority of gigs over half the crowd have never heard the tunes. The sound quality can not be compromised but the pedals need to be easy to use and to the point. Anything bordering on Shoegaze or SciFi is useless for the gig. Nothing is better than a Plate for an always on and the best plate is unlikely to be found on any Verb pedal with multiple verb choices. I noted you are like me. Delay is a great ambience but it should never be competing with the guitar as center of attention. It is a pictures frame not the picture. A compressor, once again is a tool and the UA is totally ideal for what it does and even more so for what it doesn't do. The other UA compact verb is like 99% out there just another out of countless rooms of all or any size. Easily substituted by a Plate where the reverse is only occasionally true and even then not on every tune at a gig. In short the Compact line did not need it. A modulation pedal would have been more useful. A simple Phaser, Flanger and Chorus would do the trick. not so many attention to detail is sacrificed. Others tend to be complex in reproducing all their detailed but loved foibles like the UniVibe or Leslie.

[@monrodeo100]

Really well said, I like you head up a trio with originals and some covers. My first impression are highly important. This demo is killer but I wish I could easily make it all pre sets for ease of use on the fly while performing. Now I use a strat with Blues Jr. and a Boss 63 reverb always on and a Leslie pedal and a fat boost footswitch for solos.

[@lanceholland]

What do you do to convert to a balanced signal? I typically run XLRs to the mixer for our band.

[@coreycongilio]

I can go direct into the interface with 1/4. You could go to a direct box then xlr to your mixer

[@markokrstanovic3444]

How did you get that tone 6 seconds into the video? Sounds incredible! Thank you for this showcase, I'll definitely consider some of these even though I use an HX Stomp.

[@coreycongilio]

Can't remember haha!

[@Esokyotoo]

Thank you Corey you're the best teacher

[@Vaxeii]

Where would you place a looper pedal in this chain

[@coreycongilio]

I would probably put a looper before a reverb or delay so you're not feeding multiple reverbed signals into the looper

[@tommc49]

Well done. I appreciate your approach in this demo. Helps me out because I have the Dream pedal and was curious about how the 1176 will work with it. Your Dream appears to have a red LED by each switch and they both appear to be on at the same time. My Dream has a red light by the left switch and a green LED by the right with comes on only when using a preset. Mine never has both LEDs on at the same time. Am I missing something? Perhaps it just the lighting in the vid that makes look like they are both on.

[@coreycongilio]

You can program the switches the be used for presets, or toggling off tremolo or boost. That would change the color of the leds

[@tommc49]

I did not know that. Thanks for the reply.@@coreycongilio

[@robmcgaughey1938]

Sounds great Corey!!!

[@pytheus]

I was in until Rhett Schull was identified, then nope. I'm out. Good luck.

[@Cimmerian101-JH]

What don't you like about him?

[@coreycongilio]

😂

[@AndrewMooreLearningLicks]

Always a fantastic watch, thank you so much for your help with everything guitar 🎸

[@coreycongilio]

my pleasure!

[@khalilben2273]

great videos man

[@telekaster19991]

I think it sounds killer! 🔥

[@darrylv.5400]

This would be a great practice rig. Did you connect the end of the chain to an interface or something else?

[@coreycongilio]

Direct to interface

[@darrylv.5400]

​@coreycongilio thanks!

[@MarkStearle]

Hi Corey,I just bought a Pod Go but having a tough time with tones,do you think I would be better served with some UA pedals,home player,thanks.

[@coreycongilio]

Pedals definitely have less of a learning curve but don’t have as many features as the big boxes. I would consider the pedals easier to use and you might get sounds faster that way. I had a pod go and couldn’t get it to work for me

[@MarkStearle]

Thank you so much for your advice,I appreciate it,agree on the Pod@@coreycongilio

[@larryvickrey111]

I’m having great success with the POD Go. Just get one sound you like and tweak from there. The deluxe vib amp is a good start.

[@MarkStearle]

thanks for your advice,I appreciate it@@larryvickrey111

[@ey870]

Nice UAFX pedal advert :)

[@coreycongilio]

Or demonstration for people who will actually benefit from it

[@sebastienboisvert3268]

Very usefull thanks🤘

[@coreycongilio]

Happy to help

[@RedMercuryBluesBand]

Always great demos and killer tone....You did a video a bit ago with the Keely Halo and Keely Hydra. I had those on my simple board with a Keely Compressor and a ODR1. So I spent about an hour going back and forth from my computer to my rig trying best I could to copy all your settings on those and still have 'em set the same LOL. Thanks for making my rig sound great !

[@coreycongilio]

Glad I could help!

[@readysetmoses]

Oh so this is just an ad

[@coreycongilio]

Did you watch the whole video? What a dumb thoughtless statement

[@tommc49]

Corey took the time to provide a lot of useful information on the pedals (free to you) and clearly stated that he would get a small compensation from Sweetwater if you choose to buy. The vid is much more than an "ad".

[@Cimmerian101-JH]

​@@coreycongilioDon't worry about it Corey, trolls everywhere and there are many, many people who appreciate your videos and the time put into them.

[@Les537]

I have the dream. I use it for a headphone amp. I think it's pretty great. I wish it were based on a princeton instead of a deluxe, but it does the trick very well.

[@GregWitt]

Great video - and really helpful! Thank you - I'm rethinking my pedal board - just got a Dream 65 and I'm thinking about this signal path, using pedals I already own - guitar --> MXR Dyna Comp --> Dream 65 --> Flashback Delay --> HOF Reverb --> Amp Alternately, replace the compressor with an Echoplex Preamp pedal (using an A/B switch?).