Area of Conquest has a HUGE Problem | Hero Wars Dominion Era

[@jamesedwards6985]

As a newer player I like the rewards. My issue is there phrase Equivalent Strength Teams is a mistranslation of we don't know what we are doing so we are up against an alliance with fewer members but many of which are double the power of anyone in our alliance and they easily claimed all the good spots and no one can touch them. Were the second strongest so we got the next best and the two bottom teams are just screwed. The only reason they have any spots is because we can't seem to get some of our players to grasp the concept of camp in a town for points... The rewards are essentially free unless you pay for the top track, but its not fun content.

[@M-DVD]

It's my exact situation and we're the second team too. First team are around just 5 heavy guys, the others ~10 are sleepers and that's their guild.

[@jamesedwards6985]

@@M-DVD Just finish the reward track, try and grab 2nd place and call it a win.

[@cameronmoriarty3313]

I noticed that Nexters found a way to take care of people's complaints about the sheer disparity of total power, they removed the display of that number. I know the numbers value is limited, but when it gets to the over a hundred millions it does say a lot about the options for switching out teams to counter opponents. There is 1 person who is rampaging around with an Orion/Gus team we could not effectively counter (we are a still building almost completely f2p guild). We know the counter, but only a couple of people have built up to that point to face a maxed out O/G team. I won't do it now because people aren't all online due to the holiday, but next time AoC comes up I plan to poll my guild on whether we will even bother to participate again. It could be a coincidence, but our 2nd most active member disappeared (I hope they just quit the game) back when it was announced AoC would become a regular thing and replace CoW (before that decision was overturned). AoC just came at a terrible time for us, it took several hours for us to even get a 3rd member online and participating (it starts at something like 4AM for our strongest member too). By then the other guilds had deployed and established themselves and also had a several thousand point lead that we had no hope of recovering from.

[@dariuszmaycha2152]

today I receive a Totem fragment from the turtles sewers:)

[@johnmarshall6394]

Nice!

[@germanslice]

@@johnmarshall6394 Ivé not received a 'single totem fragment in over 3 years. This game is being run off a server where most of the game code is stored because the game is probably too big to fit on pc alone So I think the game streams the code blocks when it needs to load things in.

[@RyanKelley-q3b]

Did you have to use a bunch of emeralds to get it?

[@SerenityLight]

I'm also wondering

[@n-da-bunka2650]

@@RyanKelley-q3b just real, hard cash.. about $80 in my case

[@jasonfritz2303]

What is ridiculous about this event... I pick a team without knowing what team I need. I use my 12 moves, lose to an opponent, pick a new team and by the time I get back, that opponent has been taken out by someone else. Now I have the wrong team again, lose and get kicked back to the HQ. Rinse, repeat over and over and over.

[@kimchristensen2175]

AoC is where an active guild is essential. If guildmate stands close to the enemy, then all guild members can see the enemy heros.

[@adrianboyddodd8007]

@@kimchristensen2175 The trick is not to pick a fight with a wandering enemy that is weaker than you for the energy gain which you will keep going into the next battle. Don't heal your heroes after a win with those hearts unless more than one is dead or you lose the energy gain which will stop you beating enemies on yor level and stronger.

[@RyanKelley-q3b]

@@adrianboyddodd8007 right. I almost have the 60 wins after a loss "quest" I'm at 55 with almost 2 days, so I'm sure I'll get it.

[@eveillanderson]

Charlie: who needs patterns and thread? Also Charlie: has only finished one flag and doesn't smell the purple banner coming 🪄🎩

[@n-da-bunka2650]

Weaving Patterns does NOT give you 3600 threads! It only gives about 500 and that is IF you have the summoning spheres stored up already. In order to get even 1,000 threads you HAVE TO BURN through 50,000 emeralds which... DO have a cost!

[@bikebudha01]

HOW TO FIX AOC: Allow people to "see" enemies before they move 12 spots to fight enemy. So tired of picking a team, using my 12 moves, only to find out the defending team is not something I can beat. Now I have wait hours to get enough moves to go someplace else.

[@HearGodsWord]

It's a really bad event that many have lost interest in because the returns aren't worth the effort

[@Tyson95ify]

The second place rewards are better than first due to the scarcity of the armor pen patterns

[@stephaneproux6225]

Agree!

[@M-DVD]

I have been thinking it since day1. If Im not wrong it's the 3rd or 4th time these exact patterns are the prizes.

[@MakaayYazhnam]

and you can use AP on what? Magic attack is the best pattern there is... after that is PA and then comes armor and magic defense... this is pure shit pattern IMO.

[@neumarcunha4874]

Unfairness among us. Just now we are against 3 golden league teams. And where is the promised balance? Charlie, the only one problem with AoC is itself.

[@leotalaska5250]

AoC completely sucks for newer users. We are fighting guilds that have all of their pets at 100%, but all of their heroes are weak. These guilds are between 3 - 5 years old that had all of the time to cash in pet eggs over the years. Gee, and they wonder why so many people stop playing this game. I am really considering it. ANGRY!

[@soldier22881]

bro it was always pay to win, not to mention ultra grindy random drop chance for 150 fragment required items to build a SINGLE recipe

[@rantoppp]

I haven't woven any patterns together and I still beat the teams I always beat before the flags came into the game. Not sure how much they are actually needed. I do fine as is.

[@ElginJenessa]

Thanks for the breakdown! Just a quick off-topic question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

[@MarioCindric]

Merry Christmas Charlie and thank you for you services🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁

[@richardd3367]

It *WOULD* be nice if Nexters would start building/releasing more of the hero-specific Ascension skills!...

[@martainroth2588]

Most people will level up 6 patterns or even 9 so that they can have a flag for each of their grand arena teams.

[@00fox]

It's true in reverse too, I spent a lot at the beginning on the maps, thinking that it would be the only way to get some. When they gave the first orange for nothing, just to play, I thought it would be like for the first map, a lot then less, but no, now any player can catch up with my level without doing anything while I had made a big effort. So they should certainly leave gains that are worth investing time, but not that. Besides I don't see how AoC is linked to patterns, except for the launch, like a bottle of champagne on a boat that is launched.

[@stephaneproux6225]

Agree! Irrelevant event since a while as far as I am concerned. Extremely time consuming if you want to perform in it and little reward for players that are already set up with 3 patterns. And having that over Xmas...I am lost for words. Those Nexters Orthodoxs are taking the piss out of us.

[@spargeltarzan348]

this winterfest is a joke, we got way more baubles by upgrading the new heroes the last years: we get 232.480 baubles 2024: Holiday Every Day: 48.750 Waiting for the Holiday: 51.980 Winter Tale: 39.000 mystery map: 84.000 (the usage of explorer moves are not worth it, especially compared to a full upgrades now hero, I count 20.000) Area of Conquest: 8.750 (7900 doesen't count, because it is impossible to get them because of the inbalanced matchmaking) we got 552.380 baubles the last years: Holiday Every Day: 66.750 Waiting for the Holiday: 51.980 Winter Tale: 40.650 The Stranger from Frigid Space: 373.000 the gifts are not worth more, or got cheaper. Rewards and quests are the same, but we have one day less to fullfill them. do you know how it feels if you only get less than 50% of the gifts to christmas than the last years? Of course it gets not better when you know, that you invested 100% the same as the last years... this winter event proofs again how much nexters hate their player! 2 Guildmates quit playing because of nexters.

[@Big_Mike724]

Wait...that's how the final pattern upgrades work? It can FAIL and you lose your thread? I've been thinking you could only do it once and those were the odds to get the given values. That's absolutely terrible that you can still fail and lose your threads in the process!

[@zhidaobu4987]

AOC event was fun at first, now it become a real pain. if there is a strong guild dominates 4 teams, then 3 teams like a sitting duck, no way out and no way to play at all. for lower power players, most if not all will skip the whole fighting and just pick up some boxes...

[@minnesota630]

I love AoC, I would play it just to play. It's the most interaction with your guild, and I love my guild. :)

[@Veenbrandt]

I really have my doubt about the points gathering. We constantly held MidTown and that village is worth as much as 9 other villages. So if you have 10 villages including MidTown, per hour you should gather roughly an additional 1920 points compared to the others and extend your lead. However, our lead is only getting less and less. Slowly, but surely. Also, 4 days of this torture.....2 days is already the max.

[@nmsgc-j8t]

You are forgetting something charlie, for Clash of worlds, it is beneficial to have 3 flags, not just one & for many F2P players, flags & flag patterns can be hard to come by, as a F2P player it can take weeks, even months of saving moves before it's possible to reach unique rewards like flags, event currency & the 20K emerald prizes. The AoC offers a free method for acquiring them without using explorer's moves, assuming their guild is strong enough to reach second place. I agree though that the patterns should be changed, I think rotating them so that it is not always the same rewards for first second & third place would be a good idea.

[@Gunslinger-m2v]

Those of us that just started playing this year may be happy with conquest.

[@gmr9bl]

I mean we need 9 patterns for 3flag (GA and COW) or more if you dont want to spend emerald to swap the pattern for orther flag

[@yanmeu8019]

if you think this is ridiculous, wait till you hear about Christmas Baubles scandal! LUL

[@DeOmri]

Strange that they don't rotate the rewards...

[@animatsuri]

OK we get it AoC is not for everyone who's been playing for years. But now that most of us have time this is the most our guild has ever talking to each other and active for awhile and I don't have that much threads right now so winning a good placement is a good deal for us.

[@theuglykwan]

They shoudl give u currency to buy stuff u want from a shop. Perhaps add in reset prizes to reset skills etc.

[@soldier22881]

good ol days when it was just osh, now meastro is out i cant get 4 mil damage, 2 years. cant believe they made a new guild raid boss something to not look forward too.....

[@tothk2a11]

KZbin is probably cutting your reach. Today I couldn't find your channel in subscriptions. I'm from Poland and I admit that I didn't remember the name of your channel. While searching for your videos I was looking for tags related to HeroWars. Today KZbin absolutely didn't suggest anything from your new videos. I had to search for your channel through my browser history. Because I really didn't pay attention to your channel name before.

[@viking3860]

thx Charlie

[@TheTimer1337]

Well.. I barely have 1 red pattern and I play every day.. so don't worry we won't run out of patterns to upgrade :)

[@dj-mu9ue]

its the funniest gameplay ingame and rewards are good if u aint maxed out

[@gurregm]

Youre wrong Charlie Im happy love strtegy I dont know how many hero upgrade chest there is o 2nd,3rd and 4th place From road of the top I get 100-150 (with golden ticket) and after victory over 100 more Those are really good chest After the event I will post what i got than you can tell me is not worth it

[@stevealegata9883]

GM of Legions - Server 65. Agree that AOE is losing it's luster. And the rewards do suck. Decided not to spend $25.00 because it doesn't seem worth it. I think this is the 2nd time we're going against you in AOE.

[@davealan5685]

@HeroWarsCentral - It's upsetting to here you say that AoC is "losing relevancy quickly" - it seems to imply it was somehow a good event to start with. I know you know you acknowledsged that most people hate it, but big problem is that many people feel they should be playing close to 24 hours a day for 4 days which not only messes up their own "real life" lives, but even messes up the time that they could be better enjoying playing other aspects of Hero Wars itself.

[@psx6136]

there is no balance between teams we have our higher player in the Guild with 800k power and we re against 1.1 M power x3 guild !

[@schizophrenia6402]

what the difference between armor and magic defense

[@rantoppp]

Armor protects against physical damage and magic defense protects against magic damage.

[@sunnysunnymeow27]

Charlie it is becouse you have it*** i dont have those items so i really would like to recieve them

[@alanwasum2780]

The best part of AOC is saving all the superior coins to get more chests at the end of the event

[@theuglykwan]

They shouldn't incentivize that.

[@dj-mu9ue]

if all player spend it on upgrade castle it even out the rewards chest,not fair for u to mooch off others efforts and get the best of both

[@nunyabidniz2868]

Funny, you talk all around the REAL problem w/ AoC, that it's just a reward program for the whales who've either been playing the game for eons or have $pent thousand$ on the game. It needs a banner on the map that sez "Newbs can go get stuffed!" Simple fix: when you're sitting on a town, your team power gradually decreases, say 1%/minute. As soon as you get kicked back to the castle by an opponent, all power is restored but then the 2nd half of the fix come into play: movement points recharge slower the more powerful the team. Hence whales can't go careening across the map swatting the lower ranked back to their castle, and a guild full of whales can't just sit on all the towns reaping all the points for the entire duration of the event. The newbie guilds will have their mobility to take advantage of treasures spawning on the map, and there will *some* turnover of the towns on a regular basis.

[@MakaayYazhnam]

this is not the way to evolve patterns and to spend golden thread... but I wont say anything more... there are good videos from some youtubers who do it right.... I have multiple red+2 patterns and I spend very little money on this game but I know how to play it smart.

[@a.grayman6349]

This dreadful event should be 1-2 days long period. There's nothing fun about it, it's way too time consuming and the rewards generally suck for more mature accounts. They removed the numerical values of guilds and for the fifth AOC in a row, if you're a member of the two lowest teams you may as well sit in the castle because you literally can't compete. The monster guild that's always present holds the 32 and wins from day one. Boring, predictable and zero fun.

[@j23j232002]

they promised inclusion titans, and match making still unfair.

[@NickKoelsch-d7c]

You only run out of stuff if you are P2P

[@thomasarmbrust8765]

The complete game suck. Thats important to know, on our server, many people spend 200 or 400 euro, and all was resettet. All have become a delete from 1 million baubles. and have become a message with 50k...., and other servers have become 2 million... so many people lost so much money.... the biggest thiefs in gaming history

[@thomas4328]

AoC does not offer a fair competition....the matching of the guilds is a joke...a sad, sad joke

[@HanSPolobolt]

AoC is the worst event in this game, if they can't fix it why the hell isn't it deleted... there won't be any more and that's it, it's all sh**. They always say it's "equal", they haven't been able to fix it for months. We always get 20 million stronger clans, I don't understand if they can't fix it, why don't they write that sorry guys, we screwed up, this sh** won't happen again...

[@changtianfeiwu]

Nobody likes Area of Conquest. 😂

[@schizophrenia6402]

AOC is pretty good this time actually , all the teams are pretty much even on strength

[@griff9288]

I farted, this is a scratch and sniff comment

[@johntucker9346]

this game is getting to be a money grab

[@cleaner6665]

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[@cranes4life]

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[@dominiquejean5830]

The only right way to play this event is hoarding the coins and wait for the event to end. You get 4 chests for each 800 coins and those chests are awesome.