Argos Triumph of Bacchus - real world fragrance review

[@igorkokozov4862]

Daniel, I love watching your reviews because you hold nothing back. Thank you for your honest opinion. Peace!

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@igorkokozov4862 thanks! I always try to be honest and keep my bias to a minimum (or disclose it) 💪

[@adtt5243]

Finally a serious review. Much better than those who reviewed this the same week because they coincidently bought this the same time :D

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@adtt5243 coincidentally 😅 I’m looking for a good replacement for this, still easy to wear but with a little more depth.

[@Exmorted]

Having smelled both the edp and extrait version, I'll let you know that they're basically 100% the same - the differences are very minimal, so where the edp might be "35% apple, 40% peach, 10% saffron and 15% rum" then the extrait wukk be the exact same except a few percentages being shifted. It's all the same notes, but the balance is slightly more shifted towards peach and rum with a stronger vanilla backing than the edp. The extrait is extremely strong and will last 24+ hours - Strong projection for the first 4-8 hours, and then still radiating within an arms length after that. I would've liked a bit more of a smoky or rough tobacco similar to tabac nomade by houbigant, to offset the sweetness, but that's just me.

[@SeldomlyOften]

Thanks so much for the Dailed answer. I don't really get much tobacco from this, everything is buried under this massive sweet opening.

[@Exmorted]

@@SeldomlyOften The tobacco in the extrait isn't that much more prominent in terms of balance, it is still this sweet tobacco, almost candy-like tobacco, so it doesn't really have anything to contrast because both the vanilla and the tobacco is sweet. if you smell it and I tell you "this is tobacco", then you'd be able to pick it out and be like "okay", but if you were to think 'tobacco', then the smell you get in Triumph of Bacchus isn't really what you'd expect since the sweetness is kind of seeping into every aspect of the fragrance.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@Exmorted Yeah, In fragrances I associate tobacco to Amouage Royal Tobacco, which is actually kind of unfair given how unique that is.

[@Exmorted]

@@SeldomlyOften A good one I can recommend, is the one I mentioned before; Houbigant - Tabac Nomade. My favourite thing about that one is that it combines vanilla and tobacco, but the tobacco is dark and similar to smoked tobacco, and then the vanilla just helps it not get offensive, without being a sweet major note.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@ cool, I’ll check it out 😎

[@nathanielmoody3656]

“Las Vegas!” This sums it up perfectly!👌🏼 Ok, you’ve got to explore Papillon Artisan Perfumery. There’s a really strong Egyptian mythological thread running through a lot of the fragrances, and the artistry and beauty is really fantastic.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@nathanielmoody3656 I will, they are high high on my list!

[@KalopsiaMyth]

Vegas is great and true luxury exists there. Like everywhere though, there are cheap imitators. Anubis is a favorite of mine. Very resinous and spicy leather.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@ I’m finally getting Anubis in a few days (do you mean the Papillon?)

[@rajathamid]

wonderful review, I would love to have you review Chypre Palatin by MDCI someday. Cheers!

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@rajathamid that is an absolutely awesome frag and high on my list. Hang in there 👍

[@seanp7871]

@@SeldomlyOftensecond that

[@leepaterson7340]

YESSS BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE, just sampled it recently!

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@leepaterson7340 might not be the review you were hoping for 😅

[@leepaterson7340]

@ yeah tbh having watched it I sample Red tobacco, carlisie, triumph of baccus extrait and the EDP but enjoyed the red tobacco version out of 4 weirdly enough!

[@rey4929]

This smells like a affordable oil that i got from a mall kiosk years ago. I wore it to college in like 2017 and everyone loved it, but it was extremly affordable and creates the same aura that this does. A pleasant scent, but im not sure its worth the price

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@rey4929 it smells nice and it’s mass appealing but the price is a little steep, I agree.

[@assumptaai]

On the cap is the Eye of Horus (the Wajet eye) symbolising Horus and Osiris, protection, healing and The Falcon. In 20thC syncretic occultism parallels between various Egyptian deities and ancient Roman+Greek deities are often drawn- there is mixed invocation of deities, usually to channel and multiply the energy of both deities. Of course I can't speak to this house's intention as they may just have chosen "cool" occult symbols without an understanding or intent in the invocation thereof

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@assumptaai thanks for the always cool references and comments but I really don’t think this was the intention 😂

[@assumptaai]

@@SeldomlyOften well you never know 😹 after 1920 I would actually be sus of anything occult-leaning that isn't syncretic

[@SeldomlyOften]

@ true, but looking at the box… I really wish there more meaningfully driven perfume houses.

[@assumptaai]

@@SeldomlyOften maybe they didn't invoke the right benefactor to finance high production on the boxes 😹 yeah it is disappointing, I'd like to see smth like this at artisan production level

[@assumptaai]

@@SeldomlyOften shit My bad, I realised I'm upside down and I walk on my head in the southern hemisphere Right eye is indeed eye of Ra not Horus, I was looking up Argos now and I think I was looking at a flipped image of the cap- It would actually make more magickal sense to combine Bacchus with Horus, Argos seems a bit of a plastic gilded mess

[@willc7861]

The way you explained gives me a hint its like Imaginary Authors vibes

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@willc7861 you mean scent wise? Imaginary Authors is a cool brand because they are very humble and chill, they are priced right and don’t have any shady marketing tactics. Scent wise, yeah, similar quality.

[@Polyfusia]

Just had one of those weird moments. As you were doing the intro I said out loud "this house is like Greece as imagined by Las Vegas" and you said the same thing the second I finished saying it. You're so right. It's like a themed hotel or casino. Not classy but rather tacky and American. I've heard Bacchus is extremely sweet and I already find other scents in this category too sweet. Seems like something for undiscerning people with money but not a lot of class

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@Polyfusia yeah, I totally got a “I want to exclusive and cool so I’ll go Greek mythology” type of vibe. Too bad because the idea had potential

[@CgScents]

Great review I can’t stand ToB because of that cough syrup smell. The red juice stains test strips. Fowl stuff one of the worse. I agree on the branding I never thought of it that way but now I’ll never not see Las Vegas try hard Greek mythology lol.

[@SeldomlyOften]

Yes, your review totally stuck with me as well. This is by far my most disliked video, I’m really surprised about the amount of offended people despite me being pretty neutral to this 😂

[@ZEFFENWULF]

@@SeldomlyOftenpeople are just mad they paid a premium price for a mediocre product

[@Mr.E.Fragrance]

The eye is actually a play off of a Greek mythological iconography for a Tethys symbol. Greek and Egyptian symbols have a few similarities. I don't get the cough syrup vibes. For me, I get the peach. All that said, I agree it's a very wearable, crowd pleasing scent.

[@SeldomlyOften]

Maybe that's the case but it looks 1:1 with the eye of Ra. Anyhow, yeah, pretty pedestrian likable scent, can't hate on it for that.

[@nathanielmoody3656]

There was a lot of cross cultural pollination going on between Egypt and Greece.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@ true, there are obscure meanings but this is probably a case of just picking a symbol that looked cool

[@unicdelmore4382]

I bought it because of the hype, and trust me it’s not a bad fragrance at all, but red tobacco came in my mind as soon as I sprayed it first. I was not impressed at all. I do wear it here and there, but overall it’s very overhyped.

[@SeldomlyOften]

No, it’s absolutely not a bad frag, it’s a mass appealing, pleasant smell, it’s just a little simple and chaotic considering how expensive it is.

[@Ganimedes_pl]

Christian Petrovitch is of Italian & Russian decent.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@Ganimedes_pl oh, I read somewhere he was Polish? My bad.

[@hysidky]

Thanks for this review. I'm a bit surprised you didn't mention the saffron note. To my nose, it stands out, overwhelmingly so, in an unbalanced way. It could just be me though. Otherwise, my thoughts are very similar. I purchased Argos' discovery set after all the hype, and I'm not sure I'm going to buy any of the fragrances. The only one i *might* buy is Brivido Della Caccia. I wonder if you've tried it.

[@SeldomlyOften]

I’m pretty sensitive to saffron but can’t really pick it up much in this one. I’m still curious about the discovery set, which is the one you liked the most?

[@glamconnor]

@@SeldomlyOften I like Danae a lot personally. Creamy lemon woods galore. But based on your taste, I'm not sure id recommend the house. It's largely mass appealing stuff that I wouldn't spend more than 200 bucks on.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@glamconnor thanks for the info, I still planning on getting a discovery set, I might something that I like. I'm not going to bash a whole house just because one offering was not to my taste.

[@glamconnor]

@@SeldomlyOften Dope, let me know what you think. Could be a great basis for one of your speed dating videos.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@glamconnor exactly my thought :)

[@BigScentEnergy]

My fave from the house. Have both extrait and edp versions. Great review.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@BigScentEnergy what’s the difference between the Extrait and the EDap to your nose?

[@BigScentEnergy]

@ the extrait is a bit less tobaccoish and lasts much longer than the edp. The edp however projects much louder off my skin.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@BigScentEnergy so still super sweet and fruity I assume. EDPs genrally do project louder. Thanks for the info!

[@mohamedshousha9772]

I like the way you explained your point and I don’t disagree. The scent smells designer in a niche disguise 😅. I’d love to hear your thoughts on Invasion Barbare and Chypre Palatin from MDCI; also if you can get your hand on some Bortnikoff fragrances, I’d love to hear your thoughts on them too. Bortnikoff uses some cool high quality ingredients that can clearly be appreciated, give it a try when you can.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@mohamedshousha9772 Bortnikoff is top tier, I have 2 and they are amazing 🤩 Chypre Palatin is HIGH on my wish list, had a sample and loved it

[@mohamedshousha9772]

@ that’s really awesome! Which Bortnikoffs you have?

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@mohamedshousha9772 I have Oud Monarch and L'Heure Excise, both amazing.

[@mohamedshousha9772]

@@SeldomlyOften I have Oud Monarch too which is a lovely floral oud. Tested Oud Sinharaja which was the most gorgeous natural smelling jasmine, Oud Loukum which is a dark rubbery smoky Oud which was ok, Sayat Nova which was sweet dark fruity oud that I didn’t like. Looking forward to try Musk Khabib and Chypre de Nord which have real deer musk in them that I’m intrigued to know what it smells like 🤓

[@SeldomlyOften]

@ I would love to get more but no one has them here and they are expensive.

[@hufinnegan2611]

thanks the review! Triumph of Bacchus might be my least favorite from the house so I don't quite understand the hype. I am curious about what you think of their newest release charon's vail which is unlike other saffron-rose-oud fragrances that I've smelled. It has this airy scent that some people describe as "pissy" but it has been growing on me

[@SeldomlyOften]

I really want to get a discovery kit but they are not super easy to find here. I want to give the house a better chance.

[@AL-tq1or]

Sitting here in my Nightshift and thinking about throwing my 5 Pennys in, but than at minute 7:28 u finally mention the Red Tobacco comparisson. I wear it right now while watching this recent upload of yours, remembering that those Scents smell simmilar in those Sirupy Aspect and i would say some Wood Varnish a luxorious one. I have one Scent for Years called "Eutopie No.03" that smells like Red Tobacco and Argos Triumph.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@AL-tq1or thanks for the comment, do you think Red Tobacco is better or worse than the Argos?

[@AL-tq1or]

​@@SeldomlyOften As to my Nose The "Cheaper"Mancera Red Tobacco is much better in Performance/Longgevity and u get more ML per Bottle for a Liquid that practically do the same just better.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@ yeah that’s what bugs me about the Argos. Mancera is a cool humble brand that knows how to appeal 🙂

[@72aakhan]

Thanks so much- you saved me some money...

[@SeldomlyOften]

I always encourage everyone to make their own choice but it you tend to like what I like…

[@andrei-cosmin.popa85]

Hey, Daniel. Zhor sells Argos. Thought you should know, as I'd guess it's rather easy for you to purchase from Italy.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@andrei-cosmin.popa85 thanks! Getting stuff from Italy to Switzerland means going there though 🙃

[@atmydesktyping]

I was going to ask you about this house too. Perfect timing 😅

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@atmydesktyping well, might not be the video you were looking for 😅

[@william6509]

Please try out New york nights by Bond #9. Youll love it

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@william6509 I still need to try a couple more Bond 9, that one is on my list 👍

[@yiyithewuster]

As a fan of Carlisle I’ve been wondering how this compares. I cant justify picking up a bottle of the PDM but these are friendlier on the wallet

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@yiyithewuster are these cheaper than PDM??? Wow, didn’t realize!

[@yiyithewuster]

@@SeldomlyOften carlisle specifically is hard to find under 300 USD even on gray market sites. I like that the argos comes in 30ml bottles, but even at the price point of $125 you can get Nasomattos for less, and I think that’s where I’m gonna prioritize

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@yiyithewuster yeah I got mine in a trade and would have never payed full price. I'm actually having trouble giving it away again :D

[@rafaelcolonelo1255]

Id like to know which one is the "very cheap very good oud fragrance from the middle east" 😬

[@SeldomlyOften]

It’s Khadlaj Oud Pure Mystical Indian, really good stuff

[@rafaelcolonelo1255]

@@SeldomlyOftengood to know! thank you. I have one called Bareeq Al Dahab by Al Wataniah, it's really good. It features rose, safron, oud and caramel notes, very "perfumy" as you say, but very rich in my opinion, specially considering the price. Just in case you see it aroud.

[@All_True_Especially_The_Lies]

in terms of quality how does it compare to Boundless or Royal Tobacco. I have both of these and I was just wondering if this is in the same league/class? I also have red tobacco and Carlisle...The Argos is extremely over hyped and I feel the hype is driven by the brand through some of those hyping it.

[@SeldomlyOften]

It’s absolutely inferior to any Amouage, especially Royal Tobacco (and I’m trying to be as unbiased as possible). The Amouage frags are much more complex and adult but they may be less appealing to a younger crowd.

[@DmitrysPerfume]

I find their bottle designs very appealing but never tried any of them as I am not sure they are worth the price and that marketing… 👀 (you can see their affiliate marketing campaigns on their website, they do push it a lot to influencers as free money lol)

[@SeldomlyOften]

The idea is objectively cool and has potential, it’s just executed in a mediocre way. I’ll get a discovery set, maybe this one was not fit for me.

[@Citizensofthecountry]

Yep, I’ll pass on the sweet apple cherry vanilla tobacco bomb.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@Citizensofthecountry I mean, I have nothing against the scent profile but if going that route I’ll just get a Mancera.

[@Tranquilize779]

Triumph of peach Robitussin

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@Tranquilize779 I don’t even get much peach but yeah, the fruity overwhelming opening is the main character.

[@joeycalvillo1888]

You should try Danae the best from the house

[@SeldomlyOften]

I'm happy to get a discovery kit, really need to have a bigger picture. Thanks for the recommendation!

[@Humblepie1234]

Sick bottles, but that's about it. I tried this one and it just smelled like red tobacco with peach.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@Humblepie1234 so weird I don’t get much peach, I get a cherry vibe thing.

[@flyingthundergod3999]

damn why is the brand logo the eye of rah when theyre based on greek mythology, makes it feel so tacky

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@flyingthundergod3999 yeah, there could be a really obscure connection but I doubt it’s intentional beyond the “cool” factor

[@kjvkiwi]

Triumph of Bacchus to me smells like Red Tobacco except it has the peach in the opening. I got bad performance on my skin...around the 4 hour mark is was a light skin scent. Not worth the money that's for sure

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@kjvkiwi I got pretty solid performance but yeah, if I’m going after this scent profile I’ll just get Red Tobacco.

[@jdhazel5326]

If you've smelled Drunk Saffron from BORNTOSTANDOUT, you've smelled Triumph of Bacchus.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@jdhazel5326 never smelled that brand, looked cool but didn’t know where to start. I saw some on MASSIVE sail near me.

[@ethanrrs]

HEY >:( WHAT DO YOU MEAN 'FEELS AMERICAN' AND 'UNFORTUNATELY' IN THE SAME SENTENCE?? >:( 🤣 i agree about the house though, haha. ton of great houses from here though! clandestine laboratories is a hidden gem around here, not sure if they ship out of US yet though

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@ethanrrs hey, I love the US and the American pop culture. I also really like most American houses. What I meant is the cheap-ish take 😂

[@deadstar962]

What house does everyone recommend since they’re too good for argos

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@deadstar962 I feel it’s all about what you are searching for: do you want simple likable scents and are you a fan of this brand? Argos is your thing. Who cares what other people think. I don’t really like the scent profile (of this particular fragrance) and I’m not a fan of the presentation so, if I would have to judge the brand of this experience I would say that it’s not for me. I’ll be getting a discovery kit to give Argos all their chances for sure. I think that what most people (me included) just don’t like about Argos is the pretentious nature of the house. And the response to that can be derogatory.

[@deadstar962]

@@SeldomlyOften please give me brands.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@deadstar962 Brands are subjective according to what you look for but here are some that are generally well received and still easy to find: - Amouage: high quality, long lasting, powerful, middle eastern style - Aedes de Venustas: high quality, well priced, good variety, excellent perfumers - DS & Durga: well priced, innovative and artistic while still being wearable - Zoologist: interesting concept and execution, fun, artistic, evocative - Frederic Malle: high quality, classy and elegant, complex, top tier perfumers - Etat Libre d'Orange: affordable, innovative, edgy, fun - Kajal: well priced, potent, mass appealing, fun and youthful - Lorenzo Pazzaglia: loud, eccentric, well priced, fun, wow inducing - Nasomatto: edgy, provocative, fun, powerful, unique These are just some off the top of my head. Again, it really depends what you are interested in.

[@Roy_Godiksen]

❤❤👏👏

[@SeldomlyOften]

Always thanks for the support 🥰

[@dnlstrns]

Thanks for keeping it real. Average house imo. Nothing awful, nothing great.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@dnlstrns I’m definitely going to get a discovery set at some point, just to get a better picture of what is going on.

[@Sliceisnice850]

I associate this brand with influencers and their affiliate codes. I suppose younger buyers don’t care about pedigree, for lack of a better term, but I have no time for KZbin perfumes.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@Sliceisnice850 I’ve first hand seen kids buying weird hyped frags just because of TikTok, priorities… I guess? It’s ok, most people end up maturing eventually.

[@deadstar962]

Please recommend a grade A house since your so knowledgeable

[@Sliceisnice850]

@@deadstar962 You sure know how to initiate a conversation. Do you expect a serious reply after that? On your way.

[@deadstar962]

@ all this yapping in the comments downplaying argos. WHAT BRANDS DO YOU CONSIDER WORTHY OF WEARING

[@Sliceisnice850]

@ Shout all you like, but you’re rude and I have no interest in talking with you.

[@Lubbic1]

absolutely a phenomenal review. Good fucking job

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@Lubbic1 thank you, really appreciate the support 🙏

[@thanakonnilsonti5132]

Feels cheap. Feels American hahahaha

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@thanakonnilsonti5132 hey, I love a lot of American stuff but the way they interpret European history and culture is super tacky 😅

[@rxbme]

Grade A hater lol

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@rxbme just because I don’t love it it doesn’t mean I’m a hater. I actually said it smells good and it’s wearable. I just don’t like pretentious brands like this 🙂

[@JJplaysGuitar]

I'm getting tired with all these american brands like Argos, Mind Games, trying hard to capitalize on latest niche popularity boom

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@JJplaysGuitar yeah, that’s my general sentiment as well.

[@moneyparhar]

Lot of French brands does same. They just copy designer fragrances and put in thier fancy bottles.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@ it’s absolutely not limited to American, it’s just the general lazy attitude

[@stevenlang9849]

This year the biggest trend has been releasing an „elixir“ for everything that sells well for triple the price.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@ that too.. I really hate low effort manufacturing. Fortunately some brands out there keep being innovative 👍

[@joshuarock4631]

came for the frag review , stayed for the cutie

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@joshuarock4631 😂

[@Kylinmere]

Word of the day: cheap 😂

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@Kylinmere yeah I know, sad part it that it’s for everything except for the actual price 😂

[@Kylinmere]

@@SeldomlyOften unfortunately there seems to be quite a few of those on the market ☹️

[@Principemostprincipe]

I will first write that this whole house is a rubbish youtube free bottle house. Quality and creativity is far below the price. Triumph of baccus is the air refreshener, not a perfume. Than i will watch the review

[@SeldomlyOften]

You know I agree with you :D Playing devil's advocate, not everything on the market has to be artistic and high quality, not everyone is as demanding, and it's ok. Thanks as always ☺

[@genata13]

While I do not like Triumph of Bacchus the start of your video clearly shows a prejudice towards a scent made in USA and by Eastern European person - you should have made an effort to learn their name not dismissively speak about them. Pretty disappointed by this video.

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@genata13 I have zero issues with made in the USA, a lot of my favorite houses are from there. I just don’t like the tacky stereotypical approach. You are right about the name, I tried to remember it before the video but it slipped my mind when recording. Sorry about that

[@Solersoler]

I don’t think there’s anything to be sorry about… 😅

[@SeldomlyOften]

@ for the US stuff I have nothing to sorry about, I love most products and have nothing against any specific manufacturing nation. I’m sorry I forgot the guy’s name and didn’t make an effort to go back to check.

[@jbee1fam]

Bro...THIS WHOLE REVIEW IS TRASH!!!😂😂😂 Moving on....

[@SeldomlyOften]

Well, I feel I’m being pretty fair despite having a point of view. It’s a pleasant likeable scent that is fairly simple.

[@Principemostprincipe]

I will first write that this whole house is a rubbish youtube free bottle house. Quality and creativity is far below the price. Triumph of baccus is the air refreshener, not a perfume. Than i will watch the review

[@SeldomlyOften]

@@Principemostprincipe you know I think the same way 😂 That being said, playing devil’s advocate, not everything has to be super complex and artistic, not everyone is looking for intention and meaning. And that’s ok. What bugs me is that the house comes across as pretentious.

[@Principemostprincipe]

@ for the retail price paying like what, 280€ per 100 ml. Should be way more unique, i own lots of simple fragrances, what bothers me is a complete uncreativity

[@Principemostprincipe]

@@SeldomlyOften there is a fragrance called wild temptation - nightology. More refined version of triumph of baccus, can be easily bought on discounters for 100€. Way better blended than triumph of baccus.