Argument ad Populum | Billy - Austin, TX | Atheist Experience 21.24

The Atheist Experience 21.24 for June 18, 2017 with Matt Dillahunty and Tracie Harris.
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[@steverichardson8080]

Matt: Yes, you are arguing ad populum Caller: Well, 95% of people disagree

[@johnsperry9494]

It's also called the "Bandwagon fallacy."

[@jason4080]

That s a regular Recognize it anywhere 😐

[@jasons8479]

Billy's brain is an argument against intelligent design.

[@kubakorbiel]

❤❤❤

[@rikifromplanetk8305]

HAHAHAH I GOTTA USE THIS ONE

[@aaronsaunders6974]

Intelligent with a capitol i

[@bobbybecker3572]

Perfect comment

[@boblangford5514]

Billy goes from “I believe in a higher power” to “I don”t know what a higher power is” to “I don’t believe in anything,” in about 1 minute...lol.

[@Xnerdz1]

This video should be called: *Matt regrets promising to let Tracy decide when to hang up*

[@Ba_A]

Epic image, at about 9:45 Matt has his finger on the button ready to cut the call, waiting for Tracie to give him the OK to proceed.....🤣😂😅 after Billy referred to the analogy as retarded.

[@Hatebreedish]

@Xnerdz truth!

[@petermeichan3160]

@@Ba_A i found billy calling the puddle analogy retarded extrmely amusing, takes one to know one !

[@petermeichan3160]

Very much so,

[@33roses]

😂

[@nelsoncherrier3855]

Everything Billy says in this video can be summed up one sentence "StOp AsKiNg Me To ThInK aBoUt WhAt I'm SaYiNg!"

[@miguenzo]

Billy must be a real fun guy at parties. Anybody trapped in a conversation with him, will immediately regret coming

[@thickerconstrictor9037]

He literally sounds like the quarterback jock who peaked in high school and still talks about the game-winning touchdown while wearing his jacket at 35 years old

[@miguenzo]

@@thickerconstrictor9037 He scored four touchdowns in a single game though. 🤣

[@nicciswainhi]

Watch the one where he just belittled and talked down to the two lady hosts, and they just laughed at him, and he got increasingly angry...chef's kiss

[@TheZombieSaints]

@nicciswainhi oh which one is that? Got a link?

[@weetahd2309]

@@miguenzo he went to Polk HS

[@jtstar10]

Listening to Billy makes me feel so absolutely, bloody brilliant!!

[@pallejensen9484]

so i guess u lost braincells listinig to him just like i did lol😂😂. amazing if he can even tie his own shoes lol.

[@40pianos]

Based on this conversation there's evidence of unintelligent design.

[@Julian0101]

@Colin Cleveland Would that be selective devolution (only christians devolve) or devolution of the dumbest (only those who devolve become christians)?

[@_Somsnosa_]

Maybe a really stupid god tripped over its chemistry set and made our world by accident

[@DronePVScenicRim]

😊😊

[@pallejensen9484]

i feel sad for his parents 😂😂 that todler mentallety is NOT good when u pass 40😅😅

[@sparki9085]

"you're freaking out!!!1!" - person who is freaking out

[@jszlauko]

Yeah, talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

[@BustedHipGaming]

95% of Billy's brain is high as a kite

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

OR A W O L ..................

[@robertedward7023]

I vote his head is empty.

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

VERY ...................@@robertedward7023

[@grimsoncrow]

Still more entertaining than those retards and stoners who drone on for 5 minutes to get to the end of a sentence.

[@nuffflavor]

and the other 5% is dead.

[@Ba_A]

The effects of his shrooms were kicking in during the call.

[@stop.juststop]

How dare you insult hallucinogens like that! You take that back, sir....or madam.

[@hopsta5628]

More likely Billy has over indulged in shrooms, psycho meds, LSD, PCP and licking frogs from the sound of him.

[@zaodedong9935]

@@hopsta5628 two week meth binge

[@darkstar4494]

Ba A uhh have you ever eaten shrooms? They don’t do that to you. Your joke would be a lot funnier if you called it meth or crank.

[@telsonater]

Sounds like Sam Loscow’s speech on Trailer Park Boys.

[@ED-le1pr]

because youre like freaking out dude, like totally bro LOL

[@davec-1378]

"That analogy is confusing..." Yes, water in a hole is simply dumbfounding to some.

[@gcoates7]

it's confusing because he doesn't have a good counter argument.

[@Mewse1203]

A lot of this breaks down to his inability to understand basic concepts while thinking he's smarter than everyone else.

[@Thormp1]

A sane man and a madman (naked except for his underpants on his head and a pencil up each nostril) meet on the road. Madman: "Are you sane?" Sane man: "I believe so." Madman: "Are you certain?" Sane man: "No, no man can be completely certain of his own sanity." Madman: "I am. I'm absolutely, 100%, rock-solid certain that I'm sane." Sane man: "Really, how can you be so sure?" Madman: "Because the voices in my head told me so." Sane man: "You have voices in your head? How can you trust them?" Madman: "Because the voices in my head tell me I can!" Sane man: "I fear that you may be insane." Madman: "I'm insane?! Who are you to judge? You already admitted you could be mad!!" And away he hops, laughing maniacally, pencils up nostrils and the legs of his underpants flapping wildly round his ears.

[@JayMaverick]

Have you been talking with Sye Ten Bruggencate?

[@davidblum7125]

Until general Melchett got wind of Blackadder’s actions.

[@jimsmith3029]

Lol!!! Love it

[@ojrmk1]

@@davidblum7125 Wibble

[@conorpm9009]

"The Audience was never wrong" (on Who wants to be a millionaire?). Laughably wrong.

[@tarekhaddadin3224]

Andrew Parker Just gna say this about the game show who wants to be a millionaire, I don’t actually remember the contestants name or anything but he went on to the final question without using any of his life lines, and when he reached the final question he used all his life lines and in the popular vote it gave an answer of 80 smthing percent, and his last life line he used the call to phone his dad to inform him he won the million dollars and his answer was opposed to the audiences vote... perfect example to show how listening to the populous would have lost him the million dollars

[@PPA625]

@@tarekhaddadin3224 - I didn't watch the show much... maybe 20-30 contestants total (mostly online), but I did remember seeing the audience get a couple wrong, so I looked it up out of curiosity. • The first 5 questions were gimme's that no one hardly ever got wrong and usually included 3 silly answers and 1 correct answer. • The next 5 questions were relatively easy still. • The last 5 questions were very hard and obscurely trivial in nature, far more difficult than the first 10. The audience was near-perfect at answering the first 10 questions. However, when they got to the final 5 questions, the audience almost never got it correct and the contestant would be far better off just picking a random answer (25% chance) than following the audience for the last 5 questions.

[@tarekhaddadin3224]

Messi is the GOAT yeah that is true... I would say google who wants to be a millionaire accountant winning million dollar, cuz I remember he worked for the IRS, don’t remember his name

[@p360gaming6]

tarek Haddadin he didn’t use all 3 of his lifelines. He got to the million dollar question, he already knew the answer, and called his dad to tell him he was going to win the million dollars. I don’t recall him using his other 2 lifelines. Pretty sure he was the first one to win a million as well.

[@kentonbaird878]

"The audience was never wrong!" On a show about well known trivia in popular culture and general knowledge... And he's comparing that to a belief in an invisible, supernatural deity that demands blood sacrifices in exchange for wishes granted....

[@singalexsong]

Billy, the who wants to be a millionaire audience have been wrong on multiple occasions.

[@AbleAnderson]

Name one time a crowd has been wrong

[@AbleAnderson]

@Paul Morgan crowds are never wrong, fact

[@RecTec77]

@@AbleAnderson Can you back that up scientifically?

[@drg8687]

@@AbleAnderson 100% of the population used to believe the world was flat. They were wrong.

[@johnd.shultz7423]

Yes,but they werent"'wrongely wrong"!

[@Drawkcabi]

Dude, what are you smoking? I got a contact high just listening to you.

[@QueeferSutherland1]

Contact high? I just got outta rehab

[@jeffreybird6202]

best comment ever.

[@pallejensen9484]

let me know if u ever figure it out😂😂

[@fredflintstone505]

The Dunning Kruger effect is strong with Billy

[@stop.juststop]

"That analogy has always been retarded to me." -Billy, the guy who believes argumentum ad populum is sufficient for belief.

[@zipherdias420]

Hmm..."the crowd has never been wrong" wasn't there something called the witch hunts that had something to do with that?

[@johnd.shultz7423]

Mass Hysteria is allways "right!"

[@DjNotNicesNucka]

I bet you're a witch!

[@petermirtitsch1235]

@@DjNotNicesNucka how do you know he is a witch?

[@CronoXpono]

LOL or war of the worlds or when the VAST majority of folks thought minorities we’re justified in being treated violently and unfairly and many, MANY other examples of how well the “crowd” knows everything.

[@ringo666]

Witch hunts. Flat earth. " If man was meant to fly, he'd have been born with wings." Galileo's persecution by the RCC. Drumpf's election. Tell me more about the wisdom of crowds.

[@scienceexplains302]

Caller Billy, your process seems to be, at the root 1. Make a conclusion 2. Try to prove it 3. If your proof starts failing, assert that the conclusion proves the premises For example: B: the crowd is usually right TAE: Ad populum is a fallacy . B: yes, it is, but since the populace is generally right, they are probably right on each thing You did the same with the appearance of design

[@sunnypsyop3666]

He believes in a higher power alright. It sounds like he has been hitting the pipe

[@nake89]

Yeah, the crack pipe.

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

Or Finlandia Vodka ....................

[@庫倫亞利克]

Even from the beginning the caller has no intention of engaging in an honest debate. Note that he uses "95% percent of people acknowledge that..." instead of "believe that..." which means he already presupposes that the world is created and he tries to smuggle in the insidious baggage to manipulate the conversation.

[@chrisleaver929]

I think the Douglas Adams puddle story is a great and humorous way to make the flaws in intelligent design arguments more obvious.

[@Canalcoholic]

Around 4:00 Matt: “Galileo went to prison for saying the Earth wasn’t the centre of the universe” Billy: “That came out of some old book though”. Isn’t that the whole basis of Christianity? Some old book.

[@bassman9261995]

I’m glad I sat through Billy to hear the hilarious “the puddle was designed” banter at the end

[@MrKErocks]

4:24 Matt - Do you believe in god? Billy - Yes... no, no ,no, I believe in the existence of a higher power. 5:54 Tracy - You're basically saying I believe something and I don't know what it is. Billy - Exactly, like like I'm not supposed to know... I think Billy is high...

[@AntifascistAllDay]

And three years later he's still spouting this same nonsense.

[@TheSnoeedog]

@@AntifascistAllDay LOL I HAVE A BILLY FROM TX PLAYLIST!!

[@warrencolegrove1]

I like it when Keanu calls in. It’s an excellent adventure.

[@skateboardingjesus4006]

He mentioned Plato, but nothing about So-crates.

[@joelonsdale]

That was absolutely exhausting!

[@n4n1damn]

"95% of people recognise design in nature" "The audience was never wrong when polled". You need to check your facts bro.

[@Heathen.Deity.]

95% of people in the world know that when a caller tells Matt to calm down or asks why Matt’s so angry, they’re just saying that because they know their bad arguments are failing.

[@inter-partyconflict9540]

And like, in this case the caller was clearly floundering and contradicting himself and- dare I say- freaking out, and yet he accused Matt of "freaking out" despite him being perfectly calm and rational for the entire call.

[@alwaysincentivestrumpethic6689]

Billy "freaking out dude" has no good argument for design

[@FourDeuce01]

Billy: “The audience was never wrong.” Billy didn’t watch very many episodes.🙈

[@StepMochi]

I guess he thinks emotionally and seeks for the acceptance of other people instead what is true

[@knotlock]

DeadlyGreed close, in type psychology it’s called Te or Extroverted Thinking. It’s a collection of references and statistics. He might have Ti trickster.

[@buzzlaw]

He desperately wanted a hug

[@shiny460]

They were asking him about his belief in God and he said "how can you know?" If you can't know for sure what God is out there, why does the fact that 95% of people believing it mean ANYTHING

[@richodude2679]

But dude it’s 95 % of the people of all time , that’s gotta mean something !

[@moonriver601]

Is this guy shivering cold or something? He's blubbering like he is shivering cold.

[@mfbjo6854]

Pretty sure he's high as a kite

[@darksoul479]

6:45 I have to save this for further study. This is the best example of a person's brain completely short-circuiting that I've ever seen and heard. The caller acknowledges the fallacy in the beginning of the call and then uses the fallacy none the less. As mr. Spock would say. Absolutely fascinating.

[@paulhumphreys7369]

Matt’s finger hovers over the button....🤨😂

[@MrScottev]

When you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffer, superstition ain't the way.

[@abc456f]

Sounded like Billy is more blind than Stevie.

[@stevebarrett2106]

95% of Billy's head is full of alphabeti spaghetti.

[@bill1394]

This guy calls in a lot with the same ideas and gets shut down every time, but still calls back for more.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Malignant narcissism.

[@JohnKoenig-db8lk]

That was like listening to a car engine with a couple of missing spark plugs.

[@ericmadeoftin8206]

When Billy grows up, intellectually, they'll call him William.

[@djchemilion]

I'm going to need the number to his weed man... he's smoking some good shyte!

[@ARoll925]

I don't know, did you hear the call, if his supply is making him sound like that are you sure it is "good"?, I would avoid at all costs if it makes you sound that stupid

[@andreakosova6205]

I wonder what "true answer" I would get if I polled pre-schoolers about the existence of Santa :)

[@amberweidenhamer5056]

One of my older sisters was addicted to meth for 25 years. She would often call me in the middle of the night with 'ideas' similar to Billy boy's.

[@chrisleaver929]

They should have let Billy keep talking so I could win on my fallacy bingo card.

[@tedgrant2]

I think God designed my face. My eyes are in the right place. Couldn't be an accident. And I'm so handsome!

[@tawdryhepburn4686]

tedgrant2 I can’t tell if you’re referencing Dr Pangloss from Voltaire, but that’s literally the argument he made. Glasses fit perfectly on my face, ergo, God. The character was based on a real-world philosopher who believed in “the best of all possible worlds.” I forget the Guy’s name.

[@tedgrant2]

@@tawdryhepburn4686 Thanks for the cultural reference but I made it up, just like Jesus.

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

@@tedgrant2 95% of people agree that you are indeed very handsome.

[@michaelrenadette4026]

A: How did you know my name I billy? B: it's written on your shirt

[@stevebarrett2106]

Billy believes in God, but refuses to admit it.

[@JpegDog]

He said "higher power" but has no idea how to define "higher power", nor does he have a reason to believe it. On second thought, his reason is probably the ad populum

[@SimonFD]

@Repvoid Maybe, but Billy is definitively a moron.

[@christophmuller1561]

"I'm not saying it's important what the majority thinks because it's usually right. I'm just saying, what the majority thinks is usually right, that's why it is important." You've been dropped on the head repeatetly when you were a child, am I right?

[@ARoll925]

I think the majority would agree he was dropped multiple times so clearly it must be true

[@justingriffey510]

Boy he pulled that 95% out of his butt and wouldn’t stop waving it around

[@nuffflavor]

100% of the people thought the world was flat until......

[@roberteriksen6434]

Man i wish i was Billy. Everyone would just be wrong if i felt like it, i would never have to be wrong if i didn't bother being wrong. I would never have to stay on topic on anything and could just change whenever i felt like it. I think I'd be happier as a Billy. Even the name is simple.

[@blondeybeeetch]

Haha... take baby steps, maybe call yourself Bobby instead of Robert?

[@nuffflavor]

You would have to consume a large amount of crack and flakka to get your mind to a Billy state.

[@ejflor1313]

This guy said the audience on Millionaire was never wrong 😂

[@DiavoIa]

The giraffe's recurrent laryngeal nerve location proves to me that the designer needs to go back to design school

[@jimsmith3029]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a caller use so many words to say absolutely nothing.

[@kurtstallings]

Listen to his voice, speech patterns, disjointed ideas unconnected to physical reality .... that caller sounds genuinely, honestliy, high as balls. I mean Rocky Mountain high; military-grade THC concentrates.

[@jeanbrodeur9667]

I have been smoking weed for 50 years and I have never been as high as this FOOL.

[@klumaverik]

You're freaking out dewd!

[@martytdd1606]

Why did you misspell 'dude'?

[@tedgrant2]

If you drop some cheese on the floor, pick it up within 5 seconds and it won't have any germs on it. Everybody knows this, so it must be true. No need to check.

[@ichabodlipshitz2011]

Mythbusters busted this.

[@robertbrownjr2123]

Not if you kiss it up to God

[@tedgrant2]

@@robertbrownjr2123 You can't kiss God He's outside of space and time. We can't go there.

[@robertbrownjr2123]

@@tedgrant2 lol did you think i was serious?

[@tedgrant2]

@@robertbrownjr2123 I had no idea. I don't know you from Adam.

[@countsd1]

What drug is Billy on?

[@OllieandCompany]

I think all of them...

[@mjallen1308]

OllieandCompany or not enough of them

[@gusgrizzel8397]

One has to wonder why these people think they can debate the existence of God. They call up and do not have any kind of reasonable argument planned. They must be so delusional to think they are are superior debaters.

[@nonamed56]

The effects of his shrooms were kicking in during the call.

[@whoinvitedthatguy6417]

the stutter makes me think meth

[@richardvastine7486]

Caller, if you don't think so good don't think so much. You will be happier.

[@silkavenger]

This is the fourth time I’ve been presented with ads for learning Hebrew by studying the Bible while watching Dillihunty videos. If we could shortcut arguments about translation and semantics that would be super useful. But the ads seem to be advocating understanding of the Bible for the sake of deeper religious experience. This ad on this video is shockingly ironic.

[@timothyhowson2775]

I think that was the most confused caller I have ever heard.

[@stevenhunter3345]

This is one of the more confused callers I've ever seen on the show. He doesn't know what he believes and can't even remember how he described it moments ago. Poor guy.

[@VSE4me1]

95% of ancient Greeks believed the sun was a god driving a flaming chariot across the sky.

[@etgaming6063]

Holy crap I just watched Billy's other call right before this one! Obviously God led me here to hear how not to make an argument.

[@normanbailey741]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂same here 🤦‍♀️🙆‍♀️

[@bsslayer7623]

Is it possible Billy pulls the percentage of 95% right out of his a.. repeatedly during this conversation.

[@unknowjondoe]

95% of people think Billy is rude and lacking. So Billiy must now think it.

[@Samir-pd5hq]

“You’re freaking out dude”

[@jamistardust5181]

The crowd had 4 choices, so someone was correct.

[@jeffreybird6202]

Billy, you're suppose to share the shrooms, not eat them all by yourself.

[@jacibea]

He sounds like he is jogging while trying to have a conversation

[@chelseag7522]

I am Matt except I would've pressed that button regardless of Tracie. "Sorry, Tracie, it's just not worth it."

[@SeraphinaAizen1]

Notice how slimey and dishonest he is by very carefully using the word "acknowledge" instead of "believe in". He even catches himself and redirects back to "acknowledge" at one point, because he knows he's using the fallacy and is attempting to disguise it. What a tool.

[@billkaneko9180]

I’ve just witnessed brains “evolving” into scrambled eggs!!

[@Rage867]

That tone in his voice of panic when he actually starts to realize the argument he thought he had was complete shit.

[@inter-partyconflict9540]

And the panicked "You're freaking out" he blurted out to the perfectly-calm Matt.

[@0hate9]

I love how the caller screws up logical inversion. The inversion of "if something is designed, it should appear designed" isn't "if something appears designed, of should be designed", it's "if something doesn't appear designed, it shouldn't be designed".

[@WildDieWoodard]

"Do you believe you're talking to someone over the telephone?" LOL!

[@baddogma]

Tracy got this backwards, the water wasn't designed to fit the hole, the mistake in the analogy is thinking the hole was designed to fit the waters shape.

[@petermirtitsch1235]

She was young a different perspective

[@oxidize11]

Tracy's little rant at the end was adorable.

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

" billy don`t be a hero " ..............

[@justincredible.]

4:18 "That came out of an old book.." The irony.

[@mattcanty7313]

This guys brain is trying to keep up so bad with the conversation that he's running out of breath lmao

[@osomartinez]

thanks for the biggest laugh i’ve had today

[@ayzen1024]

Can literally hear his brain frying as he tries to formulate thoughts

[@Jenalgo]

Billy was running smack into the walls of his ignorance with his pants round his ankles screaming "I'm right"- smack. "stop correcting me. I wanna be right." -smack.

[@VoxClementia92]

Billy is implacably hostile and rude as fuck in every one of his appearances on any of these shows. I hope he realizes that he’s confirming so many folks’ negative opinions of Christians. He’s the epitome of their empty-headed, blind confidence.

[@mr.d.8121]

'Socrates postulated the idea of design 2500 years ago'....Billy, it is the 21st century. 🤪🤯

[@deliriousmysterium8137]

Everyone thought I was gay in highschool. I guess they were right.

[@SimonFD]

You guess and or know they were right ?

[@primus7776]

95% of people acknowledge the "appearance of intelligent design"? Me included. Appearances can be deceptive, and lead to fallacious conclusions?

[@grimsoncrow]

Didn't it suddenly jump up to 99%? must have been his crushing arguments during the call.

[@thegreatcanadianweasel9928]

Most people think that Vader said, "Luke, I am your father." not "No, I am your father."

[@russellh9894]

A two second search on youtube of "who wants to be a millionaire when the crowd was wrong" shows a video of the crowd getting the question wrong. Was he just too lazy to confirm his position?

[@NxDoyle]

Billy...Billy please lose my number.

[@spencerkimble3824]

I’ve seen several instances in which the crowd was wrong on that show. I’ve also seen several where all the answers were about the same percentages

[@irishman8485]

is it just myself, or is Tracie freaking hot...?

[@yoshi9706]

VC1 she taken?

[@k45207]

So he believes that the audience was never wrong on who wants to be a millionaire but he questions that the prevailing theory for a majority of society was earth was the center of the universe...

[@Steve-zf9mq]

Billy worked it out for himself as he was asking the question... "if 95% of people thought the earth was flat.... ummmm...' yea buddy it doesn't matter how many people believe the shape of the planet won't change.

[@briancomley8210]

The number of people who believe doesn't matter, besides the fact that they don't all believe in the same god, or power.

[@UberTheRandom]

This guy is also so angsty, angry and confused when he calls.