Ariana Grande really, really wants to be mixed

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[@ForHarriet619]

Girl, I didn't watch Ariana on Disney or Nickelodeon. Join the Patreon! Patreon.com/ForHarriet

[@mollygibbons5399]

I don’t think she did Disney...

[@Dave102693]

You mean Nickelodeon

[@melanatedforever]

I seen a couple episodes with her on there, only because my tv automatically sets on that channel..Her acting is horrible..😑 Just horrible..

[@starfishplectrumelectrumge8013]

@Norris Cool I'm open to a lot of different genres of music. Whether it be blues, jazz, hip-hop, stoner rock, deathgrind, ambient, fusion, black metal ... etc., one of the genres I don't choose to listen to is 2010's pop. I consider the Motown sound to be "pop" because it was omnipresent (I wouldn't say all that representative) during the dramatic political and societal upheaval of that time. More as a form of escapism. I find it hypocritical when a person obsesses over black music but says that the US is going straight to oblivion once Johnson ever has motives at hand to restrict segregation and succeeds and when you ask why you have some Supremes vinyl under your stereo, they'll say some shit about how this is what they're best at and they should stay in their place and never dare to voice their own personal opinions. I call it "The Second Harlem Renaissance". It wasn't until the 70's when R&B in particular became more up front about politics. In one year there was the slick, sultry production and biting Nixon-era satire of Curtis Mayfield's solo debut and Sly and the Family Stone changed their multi-ethnic lineup to transform themselves as prominent figures *supposedly* linked to members of the Black Panther Party. This was the first record distributed to the pop market to feature a drum machine (not Kraftwerk, whom I admire greatly). This was done, like you said before, by people of color. There was a balance between the groupie-banging classic rock, infectious funk grooves and coke-saturated disco. Still, while many seemed to embrace the new sounds of the black community, at the core was racial bias, subjective, bigoted, and condescendingly superficial standards towards beauty and anything in between. We had a segregationist running for President for Christ's sake. MTV had a strict black code. In its first year and a half, there was rarely any black musicians showcased. You have white (mostly rock) bands that soak in disco, voice their appreciation towards black styles of music, and use it to their benefit. Blondie's "Rapture" and Talking Heads' "Crosseyed and Painless". (David Byrne of the band was listening to a lot of Fela Kuti at the time and later founded Luaka Bop, which is a label that features primarily Afrobeat and sometimes Arabic, Caribbean, and Trinidadian dance pop, folk and hip-hop) Which are bops and both with *rap* breakdowns, are prime examples. MJ's publicist (when promoting "Billie Jean") told the executives at their studios if you don't release the video for his new single, I'm forcing both Columbia and Epic to pull their rosters' videos from regular rotation and I'm going to expose you and your utter refusal to play something like Rick James, Shalamar, Prince or Morris Day.

[@DELTABOY04]

@PurelyAfrican she's more talented then 90% of these r&b acts..

[@Drea_A]

"mixed girl aesthetic" covers it perfectly. People LOVE tan skin, but not dark skin. They like thick lips, but also thin noses. You nailed it.

[@MissAdorahLove]

In europe people always liked tanned skin. its nothing new!

[@Drea_A]

@@MissAdorahLove yes I've seen seen many dark-orange British white girls lol

[@veronicacorningstone8059]

personal aesthethics, so?

[@Drea_A]

@@delusionalshawty Nobody is saying it's new, I literally said people like it lmao. It's the beauty standard. Get the glass shards out of your ass.

[@Drea_A]

@@veronicacorningstone8059 then do it. Pointing out the beauty standard isn't a protest against people who do it.

[@liv-qz4cx]

GIRL. look at the comments. how many people actually genuinely thought she was mixed race until learning otherwise - your point =proven

[@askaaska3970]

@IndígenousBeauty Look at her grammys 2020 pics,her skin looks normal.Stop overreacting.

[@rainmirron]

@Searla Louise Huh? Both Mariah Carey & Halsey have a Black parent. They're like Drake, not his son.

[@orlandous4701]

when i was a baby and young i was white asf and now i’m more darker

[@moodswings8620]

i’m so shocked i always thought she was mixed...

[@-cocoa]

@@henrayment8519 I see your point

[@psycherevivedby]

That time Ariana was darker than nicki at their performance at the mtv awards

[@skarmorygames2908]

Don't matter she still white

[@nenitaborjas1272]

It’s ok for nicki to make herself lighter but not her make herself darker 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@contourbae]

i’m latino ( mestizo not afro-latino) and i’m darker than nicki... that’s a dumb point bc nicki is light skinned and every tone is lighter than them. also it was bad lightning that made ariana look darker ... nicki looked darker too it was poor lightning if you find other pictures from the same night she doesn’t look as dark 😘

[@bandaqueenlove9134]

@@contourbae yes beause nicki is black and black latinos (Afro-latinos) exist...so your point?

[@contourbae]

@@bandaqueenlove9134 im mesitzo tho im not an afro-latino,,,, meaning i have no black on me....

[@_crismar]

"sHe'S iTaLiAn" geez have you ever even been to italy?? i live in Rome and people are generally white ahaha like of course there are black italians, but most of the time italians are white, maybe some are tanned or they have an olive skin tone, but they are still white...

[@_crismar]

@@Reuben000 dovrebbe essere normale dire una cosa del genere! credo che ormai sia arrivato il momento di capire che esistono anche italiani neri ahaha

[@icecreamstar34]

Lol not trying to defend her or anything, but when you live or are from a country where the standard skin complexion is not just one color, it really depends on the region within that country. If you want an example of a full on Italian that’s tan or olive, look at Alesia Cara. The same thing goes for Hispanic, Indians, Middle Eastern and so on. There is not a standard skin color. And if anyone disagrees then you’re practicing what’s known to be colorism.

[@nazarisreyes6037]

@@icecreamstar34 Alessia Cara's skin tone has changed a little bit but still in the same range, like something you could believe happens with stations but Ariana's skin is not one or two tones different is a whole world of difference

[@LionessHeart08]

@niya She gets plastic surgery. I don’t know if she does that to look mixed and I don’t think the changes to her face are particularly ethic looking. It is possible that she might do that in the future since she’s not against changing her features with plastic surgery.

[@nicenice-dr6ok]

There are not black italians. We are white caucasian. The others are immigrant black that take the nationality

[@sweetcake195]

To everybody who says “She’s Italian, of course her skin is dark”..... why wasn’t she THAT dark during her Nickelodeon time? She didn’t start getting “tan” until she did the mix aesthetic wave. Until she started dating black men.

[@AeroMysticLifestyle]

I’m a black white and Mexican mix and with me in particular, I can get pretty dark naturally but at the moment I haven’t been out much so I’m pretty pale. Maybe her skin is like mine? I don’t know her personally so I don’t know if she tans or not but I’m just giving myself as an example that I can look super white one winter then look as tan as ari that summer

[@goodfella2400]

BellaDonna It’s called having an olive complexion.

[@user-rc2gy5ik5n]

Honestly as an Albanian believe me the skin colour is nothing.. Here in Mediterranean countries most people are like this , when it comes to more white skin people you can understand when they trying to fake it cause we don't have money for fake tan so they go with the natural way and they don't get darker, they end up burned .. So just the colour of her skin says nothing..

[@Mimi-mq2wj]

@@goodfella2400 she never had an olive complexion tho????? she fake tans...

[@Mimi-mq2wj]

@@user-rc2gy5ik5n so what if you lot are dark, she isn't.

[@muichiie7088]

"Everyone tryna look lika a grown up North West" - i hoLLERED

[@sumayaabdi5014]

LOL

[@THEDOORIZCLOSED]

I just got disgusted with humanity all over again. Just EW

[@solgb6676]

Lol she’s not the first mix kid so no

[@adwowaafful3617]

Lmao for real...

[@prxtty_ari5985]

😭🤚🏽

[@Evelina_412]

To anyone who's trying to defend her by using her Italian ancestry- she's white, just accept it. Yes, Italians tend to be more tan than your average white person. So what? Literally every race comes in a variety of skin tones. There are some Asian people with paper-white skin, there are some Asian people with tan, olive skin, there are darker skinned black people, there are lighter skinned black people. That doesn't suddenly put them in some racial sub-category. Italians are just a slightly darker shade of white, as is Ariana Grande.

[@azzykitty414]

THIS

[@THEDOORIZCLOSED]

She isnt naturally that dark even her ex Pete said she uses spray tans. If u see her on Sam and Cat shes a regular looking white chic. I think the problem is the black community “claimed her” (find the tweets on “black twitter”) and now she thinks she can be “mixed-ish” to appeal more to the community

[@user-lj2cb2pj8j]

Oh, we accept it, trust me

[@kenzaelcampioni9262]

Thanks sis!! same over here x

[@makoy2689]

No, there are absolute "sub-races". "white" and "asian" are incredibly vague and could mean a huge number of people that are different. "White" could mean northwestern european, as in britain, france, germany, etc. or it could mean mediterrianian, like italian, greek, spanish - both groups are related but not identical and i personally wouldn't lump them together, as the climates are quite different. The same with asians, East or South east asians, literally the difference between a people who have lived in a jungle and people who have lived in temperate / siberian areas. And besides the whole racialist shit is so american anyways i cannot wait until we stop looking at the world as racial blobs.

[@Lindsay1581]

The Kardashians were the gateway. 100%.

[@Frostgrl681]

amen

[@lettiemessi8863]

Yup, they started it all!

[@Gaga0fGaGa]

Yes but don't forget they are Armenians, not totally white. But yes there's clearly something about appropriating African culture with them

[@janellynah9619]

@@lettiemessi8863 No they didnt. It was done by others long before them. But they sure as hell didnt slow it down

[@janellynah9619]

In modern society I would say so but they were not the first

[@treceslez]

to all these people in the comments saying "she's Italian though!!" do y'all realise that Italian isn't a race but a nationality/ethnicity and that Italy is a white predominantly country, right? RIGHT?

[@elisabisignano9294]

Alicia Robledo THIS!

[@debbiedebz7297]

Ppl jus dumb these days ...jus like Dominicans say they aint black but Dominican 🤦‍♀️

[@karolinak7140]

Elisa Bisignano have you been to Italy tho. Greeks, Italians, Spanish people, people in balkans, there are many people with dark skin

[@elisabisignano9294]

Karols K I am Italian. From Sicily, the South, where Italians are considered to be darker in complexion. And of course there's a lot of people with dark skin. There's also black Italians, since "Italian" is - as Alicia said - a nationality. But this doesn't give any Italian person the right to claim to be a person of color. Italians are generally considered white because we mostly are. You can be a person of color AND be Italian, but being Italian doesn't automatically mean you are a person of color. I'm pale as fuck, caucasian and with reddish/dark blond hair. I have never experienced racism in my life and the same goes for my entire family, even the ones who get literally brown under the sun in summer. I wouldn't DARE to claim the struggle of a person of color.

[@karolinak7140]

@@elisabisignano9294 aren't italians mediterranean?

[@lokalcrow1470]

It's so painfully obvious that the people saying "but she's italian tho!!" are north-americans who have never been to the south of Europe. As a spanish girl: almost everyone is white, from here to Italy, and the racism is real on black, brown and dark skinned people in general. I have no idea where this mysconception comes from but inform yourself people.

[@helenatube]

Thank you for saying this. I have been to southern Europe and while I loved my experience and met many wonderful people, the colorism and white supremacist thinking was also real.

[@SI-cd7xs]

@@helenatube is that we’re true then they should do something about all those non white invading itsly

[@barnaby4232]

@@helenatube there’s no such thing as colorise just racism

[@nava6474]

I'm Spanish and there's almost no racism here on black people so don't fucking lie

[@iBalloonsAndMore]

I come from a Polish family, I've been raised in Denmark, even Around these parts, a lot of people will assume Spanish people to be dark. I have been to Spain, they are very much white.

[@VonGlorious]

Considering Ari is tryna look Asian now, you were 100% spot on.

[@tivaspotato]

for real. she looks like she has a monolid in her newest photos

[@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024]

I thought she was Korean at first until I looked at her name 😬

[@cloudmo]

shut up

[@aleky_sundae98]

yall are weird asf

[@iceescape]

I initially thought Ariana was Latina until pretty recently.

[@williambernardbrown]

Yeah, she's Italian.

[@sugaray7435]

@@liftingskies8970 mestizo a race, what... No, absolutely not!

[@sugaray7435]

@@luhhtonii2770 facts!💯

[@sugaray7435]

Personal thought she was Spanish decent BC her last name is grande and I don't know if that's a stage name but she is white as far as race that's easy...

[@liftingskies8970]

Suga Ray ok. It’s an ethnicity technically

[@daisychombene4908]

This entire comment section made me realise Americans have no idea what Italians are. Yikes

[@mubeen9570]

SAME! THE IGNORANCE REALLY FLEW OUT

[@boiledburgerandcheps3830]

Yeah and the fact that white Americans claim their actual heritage to justify their claims???

[@JC-jd1us]

In America Italians have assimalted into white culture. So Italians are considered to be white. That wasn't always the case, but it is now.

[@ml.9417]

They’re white

[@ml.9417]

J C eh no exactly. They were discriminated against. But they are actually white. And we’re determined so by the US government. Not for what you typed

[@iburntmytoe3470]

some people: she’s italian, it’s okay me: italians... are... white though...? 🤨

[@ariyuhnaa]

yes but they are darker then normal white ppl like germany and uk

[@gayacose23]

@@ariyuhnaa I'm italian and can assure u dat we're white. 100%

[@elonmusky5419]

@@ariyuhnaa nah.

[@lolanaenamilo2395]

This always confused me. I am greek. We are concidered white right? Cause I have blond friends with paper white skin tone and blue eyes but I am naturaly olive and tanning can make mw look like ariana naturaly. We Mediteranians are really diverse, but we are xoncidered white right?

[@elonmusky5419]

@@lolanaenamilo2395 ignore my user but same. I am Georgian, but I don’t really look white even though I am considered to be white.

[@kfchik]

My boyfriend who is black thought Ariana was black/mixed until I showed him her Nickelodeon era.

[@annikalira53]

My boyfriend thought this too 😂

[@Richard-lh3te]

@niya meanwhile she’s a whole Italian woman. I’m an Ari fan myself but her going out of her way to look ambiguous is problematic and you know it.

[@user-gw5lc2ks2v]

@niya arab ? I don't think so

[@tumahaji8350]

@niya I totally agree, I thought she was Arab in her first Nickelodeon appearance. She gave off those type of genetic features imo

[@jfd4669]

they made her wear lighter foundation during victorious

[@mutedearthvirgo]

I said the same thing in my Blackfishing video! They aren't trying to look black, they're trying to look "Other"! It's the new standard of beauty in America.

[@celinak5062]

Appealing to an international demographic

[@TheMusicalFeeling]

Other exactly ! Cuz Ariana Grande definitely not tryna look black ... but look racially ambiguous 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@thatonegirlelaine]

38ktgold "It's the new standard of beauty in America." unless you're actually black.

[@truebeautyj6165]

38ktgold most definitely.

[@thatonegirlelaine]

Ruru Home Chile, same here. Being a dark skinned teen in the 80s meant you were basically ignored. Sometimes your were thrown the "you're pretty for a black/dark skinned girl." bone.

[@dorkchops]

Her tan colors over the years are starting to look like the fenty shade range /s

[@samuelsmashups]

I queefed

[@ashleywildeman796]

😂😂😂

[@okbaeh]

Aimiko ahhhhhkekeke😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DeezNutz-pg9io]

Aimiko LOL

[@kittydollsxo189]

Bruuuuuuuhhhh LMAO

[@kaylaacevedo8279]

I noticed she only is dark for her music but for magizines it’s different

[@joannaj.2787]

In mv her fans can use the excuse of bad lighting, they did throughout the entire 7 rings mv

[@user-dn1mw3zn9w]

It depends.sometimes magazines really edit and make models who are dark skinned and make them white.

[@pianocoversbyme708]

@@user-dn1mw3zn9w but ariana is not black she is white but she acts like she is mixed ish

[@user-dn1mw3zn9w]

@@pianocoversbyme708 that also depends on the people she is with. Alot people in her team are black. She might have picked some from that.

[@AbcdEfgh-xv9oj]

@@user-dn1mw3zn9w hi I might be confused but what might she have picked?

[@user-wx9xq9kv5v]

"sHeS itaLiAn" and "sHe hAs nOrTh aFriCan and ArAb bLoOd"like noooo she white

[@zynth6816]

As someone from italy, yes we are white. We can be very white, but in the summer we get as dark as her or even darker ( i’d say that for the majority). Being white doesnt mean being that one light shade, white is actually quite a big spectrum of colors and we can easily be totally different switching from the polar opposites.

[@voc_9869]

Lol I refuse to believe the North African and Arab. American with Italian roots ? sure but the woman can’t have African and Arabian blood in her veins no matter how small it is like nawwwww

[@lmaoig]

@@voc_9869 lol what? She said it herself and she made an dna test prob 5 years ago. Get over it-

[@voc_9869]

@@lmaoig i'll try 😬

[@isha3016]

She probably just said so to have a reason to be looking ethnic

[@emfrena]

Sza and Ari Lennox are unambiguously black and they are 🔥... let’s give them some shine

[@MyLalaSenpai]

Rosalyn Wilson yesss ! And Justine Skye !!! They are all so fucking gorgeous 🤤🤤

[@laurenelise12]

Nah Sza be trying it with the fake freckles and accent. She goes for an exotic aesthetic too even though she’s still viewed as African American, just eccentric. I loved her music way more before fame.

[@MzKegz]

AND LIZZO

[@americancreole6299]

@@laurenelise12 That is what EVERYONE does in the entertainment industry. People knock her fake freckles but have nothing to say about these butt length weaves. Same thing IMO. Those are all extra accoutrements made to elevate the image of the entertainer. Let's not be hypocrites and knock Sza for painting on freckles if we are not going to knock Beyonce or Nicki Minaj for rocking blonde wigs.

[@laurenelise12]

American Creole Read my post again and you’ll see that I am INCLUDING Sza in that group WITH those entertainers, not exclusively pointing her out. I was addressing her specifically because of the original post above. My whole point was that they all perpetuate this so-called exotic aesthetic

[@Decadancehallking]

"Everybody's looking like a grown Northwest" 💀💀💀😂🤣

[@arccv]

that's such a spot on comparison lmaoooo

[@temeka4288]

Took me out! lol

[@2bwseden]

😂😂😂😂💀💀💀

[@Mindyourbusiness82]

I had to pause the video b/c I laughed so hard.

[@richierich7098]

I GASPED

[@Allieischill]

This video has aged well and is SO relevant to this day. I really appreciate you sharing your perspective and shedding light on something that is so prevalent in today’s pop culture. I feel like I learned a ton, so THANK YOU!

[@sharon7915]

This comment didn't age well...It's funny how all of this was debunked on Instagram and twitter lmao,but uneducated people are gonna spread false informations...

[@Allieischill]

@@sharon7915 there’s always room for more learning when new information is presented. Do you have an article you could share on this?

[@bewitchedbanshee]

This video aged like fine wine

[@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024]

Yup. It’s so correct. I think Ariana has identity issues and self-hate issues.

[@BeccaLupercio]

As a biracial woman, this video hit so hard. I grew up hating my curly hair and thinking that my thighs were too fat. I didn't fit the stereotypical white girl pop star look and I hated myself for it. Now, I see more and more girls trying to be mixed race as I'm just learning to embrace mine and it really rubs me the wrong way. 😪

[@minasweavesnatched8269]

girl I feel you I’m a mixed chick and I’d always feel bad about my thighs and I didn’t like how I was built. My dad is black and my mom is white/pale North African but my dad had to move away for his job so my white mom raised me. She said she liked my features but would pay hundreds to straighten my hair and I wished that I looked European. Now people wanna look like us it’s ridiculous.

[@alexa-fx2fb]

Shes just tanning bro no one is trying to be you

[@aristired6252]

Yup. I’m Japanese/Swedish and most people assume I’d be skinny with pale skin. Nope, I’m chubby with pretty thick thighs and a kind of yellowish complexion. I wanted blue eyes and to be skinny like everyone else. When you don’t have all of the “ideal” features from both races all of the sudden people don’t want to be you anymore🙄

[@riell.4021]

and that's on features just becoming trends and shit

[@cerezabian]

Same here. I'm mixed Mestiza Latina and European and I inherited features from both my brown mom and white dad and I honestly always hated being mixed cause I felt like I looked off and ugly having mixed feautures and that I had to just pick a race and now white women like Ariana and Lana Del Rey want to be part time Latinas when it's convinient for them ://

[@trulytru302]

Off topic but... I hope y’all know the difference between ethnicity and race because those are two different things 💁🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[@colonyofrats4193]

Blossom1OMG 2 finally someone says it

[@TheMariaGomezmg]

The term race is totally unnecessary, it should not exist

[@azzykitty414]

@@TheMariaGomezmg your stupid oml

[@no_peace]

Yes and tribal or community affiliation!

[@GhoulishGrime]

I really don't.. The US census makes no fucking sense....I can never check off a race. But also- she's white. European American. Whatever.

[@Nosferopathy]

So Ariana came on the radio and i turned to my boyfriend to ask him what he thought of the whole “Ariana is trying to be black” thing going on and he deadass said “What do you mean? Ariana is black” He deadass thought she was mixed

[@toomuchpassion2361]

Point Made!!

[@americancreole6299]

LMBO! She is REALLY trying to claim those 10% African genes huh?

[@jocey4394]

Roxy Moron fr I thought she was mixed for a good couple years until I realized that she was italian or smthg

[@amylong271]

Jocelyn Pan she is white

[@kaykartel2749]

Angie R her 10% is making her want to be apart of the culture??? Lmfaoooo wow. You probably think the Kardashian’s don’t culture appropriate

[@gg-ke1gp]

As a mixed person (with the whole stereotypical curly hair, light skin, etc.) I really hate the term "mixed girl aesthetic." Many of us had unique struggles in the word trying to come to terms with our identity. There is a lot of privilege that comes with mixed skin, of course. But it's not helpful to be called an "aesthetic" when mixed features are being accepted/celebrated. There is a way to acknowledge the beauty of mixed girls without disparaging or taking any beauty away from darker skinned black girls.

[@amandar4628]

I agree. It's hard to strike a balance without coming across as offensive, I haven't found too many KZbinrs that speak on the subject who can do that. Same thing with the body positive crew disparaging naturally slim/hourglass figures saying it's unattainable or unrealistic when people like this exist and are real/not modified.

[@bennyton2560]

Yes

[@LisaS483]

ABSOLUTELY!!

[@TheLily97232]

You misunderstood her point. People are reducing mixed race women

[@MultiCountrygrl]

What features you think are being celebrated? Ight skin? Curly hair? That's it. I'm light skinned and have curly hair and I'm not mixed. If you have issues with your identity then that's on your parents for not guiding you as a child. Get over yourself.

[@indianaajoness]

Y’all should listen to her talking voice progression lmao. I thought it was so funny. She literally changed accents from Florida white girl to the Bronx blackfish looool.

[@indianaajoness]

I used to love Ariana Grande however now I really don’t. It’s lame. Really really lame what she’s doing.

[@theironichipstersarehere]

@niya she's definitely developed a blaccent

[@cultishh]

@niya what’s your excuse for the tan?

[@naomia4684]

can’t find the video- can you post the link lifnsiii

[@cultishh]

@niya she’s literally white

[@Xdianaandini]

Back in the day being biracial isn't a cool thing, now people wanna be mix Mariah Carey is laughing

[@eve7529]

Dicky Martin and i’m laughing lmao

[@kayleybishop6497]

Biracial still ain’t cool, amount of times I been called a halfbreed is an oof

[@eve7529]

Kayley Bishop honestly same. when i was like 10 this one girl couldn’t understand the concept of having black and white parents. but then again she also thought having kids before you were married was illegal

[@folk2630]

Eve Moore - sounds like a US problem, in other western countries black and white couples are common and socially accepted.

[@d.tasker4486]

@@kayleybishop6497 how about "oreo" or "cafe au lait." and how about "what ARE you?"

[@wackykookykatie]

Even as a white woman who doesn't see myself as a social justice warrior, there's something about a white girl trying to be black that rubs me the wrong way. It's only until now that I realize its the fact that these girls want the black girl look and swagger, without the black girl experience or struggle. It doesn't feel like they earned that look. It's like when I got made fun of for my freckles, and now girls are drawing that ish on their face. Or when I was made fun of for being a "four eyes", but now they show off fake lenses all while having 20/20 vision. Obviously very different extremes, but it does beg the question, "Oh so NOW that you decide it looks good. Where was your enthusiasm years ago?"

[@SunShine-ou2uu]

Ditto on the four eyes thing!

[@kennawilson6282]

This is so true. I couldn’t have worded it better myself.

[@wildfire887]

Agree. Use to get made fun of for my red hair now it seems lots of blonde girls want to dye their hair to my color.

[@carladiaz1979]

Katherine Preach

[@cjsozo738]

Very well said!

[@RitaSijelmass]

As someone who is mixed race growing up with two very different cultures: you grow up with a real identity struggle.

[@jhunricvillordon5214]

and what does that have to do with anything like so did I but why should we shame people and wanting to give them pain the way we did like gurl u need help if ur okay making people suffer.

[@bitchwormpuddin1499]

@@jhunricvillordon5214 wtf are you talking about.

[@sunnyshin6298]

these voices are unheard. I feel you being 3 races

[@evawashere6518]

Ik this isn't the same but I kind of relate to that because both my parents are mexican my mom was born there my dad spent half his life living other there (not the pretty vacation spots) because of family but I was born here and wasnt taken to mexico often. My parents did teach me Spanish but I'm way better at speaking english than spanish and sometimes I feel like I know nothing about my culture. Yes it my fault for not doing my own research but sometimes people tell me I'm not mexican (yes it's a real thing. I spend a lot of time on tiktok) because of how I've grown up. I wish I knew how to learn more about my culture. That's my rant I just needed to get that out.

[@jxssixa1353]

exactly, i had so many identify struggles growing up and here we have all these celebrities thinking its trendy.

[@pris1145]

It makes me crack up when people say Ariana was a Disney star when she was on Nickelodeon😂

[@mangamegs]

Racially ambigiuos is the current trend like dating claiming to be native American use to be.

[@princesseuphemia1007]

This can be particularly frustrating when you actually ARE part Native and grew up around Native people but don't look it but now everyone questions you because that used to be "trendy" to say, or like now that fake glasses are a thing everyone asks you if your glasses are real or not even though you're legally blind. :P

[@Heena6790]

I'm really sorry that every Native went through this. Dammit.

[@legend9872]

"anyways, I know these women aren't trying to be black like me...either they're trying to be white exotic or they wanna be mixed race" SPOT ON.

[@laurenbear4670]

YEEESSS!!! ,':-D ,':-)

[@katianaholmes2144]

Okay and if they wanna be, so fucking what. I'm trying to learn how to not let dumb shit bother me, especially that of which is out of my control, all of you should do the same. Itll make u hate the world a lil less

[@kaylahw6916]

Katiana Holmes Girl what? I know your dumb NON BLACK ass didn’t just say “so what” keep walking hun.

[@legend9872]

Katiana Holmes sis, there are a NUMBER of very real problems that cultural appropriation costs us that I wouldn’t be able to express in one KZbin reply (I’d have to write a book for someone like you to get it). All I can say, however, is that you don’t seem like a dark skinned black woman, so you don’t understand SHIT this lady is saying because these things don’t affect YOU. You don’t have the right to make decisions for what people are and are not entitled to feel if you’ve never been in their shoes. And don’t get me wrong I appreciate the positive outlook you have on life but don’t confuse spreading positivity with denying there are real issues that need fixing. Especially if it doesn’t affect you.

[@Jcsj_]

Have y'all looked at what sicilians look like? Which Ariana grande is

[@tawneefunston4728]

As a South African watching this I'm so stunned by American culture. Here that would NEVER fly.

[@mylovelykids2704]

I'm shocked you said that because Africans be like its bit that deep...and they don't care if they wear the culture

[@papasscooperiaworker3649]

@@mylovelykids2704 its bit that deep??

[@ntando_ngonyama]

@@mylovelykids2704 Africa is not a country. In the country that is named South Africa this would never pass!

[@imacolonelinbf2975]

Have fun in white genocide land

[@ja2377]

“A teaspoon of talent” I-

[@ihavenonamesorry7396]

What I know is that some people want to act black but they don’t want to be black

[@musicianshipcreative3660]

thats not how it works, they just want the approval of everybody and so that every other guy likes them as well, sad

[@ihavenonamesorry7396]

Suli well in my school people say the n word and talk with an African American accent with me (even tho I’m not African American I’m just African) because they think it’s cool, They know that it’s wrong but they do it because all the black people at my school are really shy and can’t protect themselves

[@musicianshipcreative3660]

@@ihavenonamesorry7396 They stealing left and right from every culture and it bugs me, they do it without intentive and no one catches them on it because no one can point the finger without feeling embarrassed or the other people feeling some type of way. White people need to chill, its different when you are a darker skin tone but it's okay to culture appropriate i dont get it these days. smh I got you girl

[@ihavenonamesorry7396]

Suli I agree I’ll try to be braver next time and stand up for myself and my people

[@musicianshipcreative3660]

@@ihavenonamesorry7396 either which way you are brave for sticking with them, youre cool as hell

[@Skullkidjynx]

Personally I think Ariana grande wants to present herself as generically “ethnic” SHES sometimes presents as blackish sometimes as a Latina and she’s not quick to correct people when they assume incorrectly about her ethnicity

[@fartyfat6539]

present me one instance where a person guess Ariana's race wrong and she did not correct it. you can't. because she has always been vocal and proud as an italian woman.

[@Skullkidjynx]

FartyFat she’s made multiple references to her having a “quinceñara” which did not happen because she is not Hispanic

[@fartyfat6539]

@@Skullkidjynx can you provide a proof or link?

[@ToutCQJM]

What if she’s transracial?

[@Koujoung]

Literally she's famous for being Italian by her own doing.

[@highesthoe6147]

Damn this shit still relevant, Latino fishing, black fishing, Asian fishing 😭

[@yoyoyowantsumchicken2go721]

it’s unfair so many get hated for the same things but celebs like ari get passes. thanks for video

[@kennawilson6282]

This is such a complicated and sensitive subject. It’s sad that people want the look but not the struggle.

[@thegreatgamer7702]

@@rat5597 Girl, you sound dumb she literally said that "they want the look but not the struggle" so like why are you mad when you didn't even read what she said

[@tiarasade21]

@@rat5597 They cant get the struggle, but they can 1. show appreciation for black culture and purposely acknowledge the culture. and 2. Advocate for the struggles. That's how. Instead they're appropriating and making money off of the same culture that deny us jobs and opportunities.

[@m0ri0xghakneukojhom5]

There are a lot of white people that feel bad, that they're white. Because of their family. It's really sad.

[@nava6474]

in Europe we love the tanned skin, period, don't try to overthink it and get offended snowflake

[@MultiCountrygrl]

​@@rat5597why are you so offended tho? You knew exactly what she meant. Its no different when white people claim Native American ancestry but never been in a reservation or even know what the original americans are going through.They want the show.

[@xkanyewestfanx2009]

The era that we're living in right now is very strange.

[@deej5608]

TRUTH

[@AjieA]

xkanyewestfanx fr 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@conniechoward]

Lol

[@alexandriasky]

xkanyewestfanx How old are you? This is Not “strange” Strange.. was 20 years ago when Thin, White Women were literally the one & only standard.

[@lisette1976]

Honestly. It's an era where we are being pulled in all different directions as people of color. We have the illusion of inclusivity meanwhile the hard truth is... nothing is as it seems.

[@laazysusan9608]

“The rise of the mixed race aesthetic”👏🏻 yes, thank you for making this point. It’s so disturbing how people fetishize this look and fetishize mixed babies. As someone who dates outside their race, I’ve encountered many men who only want to be with me to satisfy their mixed raced fantasy/aesthetic🙄

[@princesschanel469]

I’ve personally never dealt with with this as a black girl from the white men I surround myself with but from my own family. Fetishizing my future kids & them wishing my kids to be light skinned with so called “good hair”

[@kyeoptawerk93ah]

i'm mixed (asian and white) and i have had many full white people say stuff like that to me. had a white girl even say she wanted babies with every race "like it's pokemon, gotta catch em all". i was grossed out to say the least. there is a lot of fetishization and diminishing/glazing over mixed people's struggles while only focusing on the ~aesthetics~ and glamorizing potential looks without people realizing how messed up a lot of us are because of cultural dichotomies and never being truly enough for either side. mixed kids are literally treated like dolls now, be there for looks and bragging rights, but we don't want to hear your issues. also it has been difficult seeing people who are clearly against interracial marriages still and noticing how different they will treat you and your parents when they see you. interracial marriages in the u.s. are still pretty new and there are loads of people alive who were against it then and against it now.

[@Version1H]

you were so right, now she wants to be Asian

[@doublepoly123]

I am not black, or a female. But I love watching your videos because I am able to get a different point of view, one that is more nuanced and better understanding on subjects I couldn't even begin to comprehend. thank you for all your informative content! :)

[@jessicaflowers6795]

Nicely said! People who listen to different points of views are so much better to be around

[@benjaminlaw1819]

I'm glad you watched it because it's good for people from different backgrounds to hear others stories.

[@sassyblackfeline]

This was nice to read :)

[@teniellemounts-williams64]

doublepoly123 oh wow that's lovely

[@christycapers4715]

Bless 💕🌞

[@eLLeBO0GIE]

I wanna see Normani, Justine Skye, Summer Walker and Ari Lennox be mainstream...

[@PlantBasedBride]

See Hollie C. Isn’t Normani her opener on her tour?

[@eLLeBO0GIE]

@@PlantBasedBride mainstream. I want them to be household names. I said what I said.

[@125loopy]

@@PlantBasedBride I think Victoria Monet opened for her too but she's not mainstream.

[@Lauren.O]

Yes, yes, yes & yes 🙌🏾

[@Nooooooooooooooooooooo7913]

YES YES YES AND YES

[@kamille6636]

Its like everyone wants act black but no one really wants to be black.

[@Trampymctramptramp]

I agree with that, however, I dont believe Ariana, wants to look black.

[@MsDaem0n]

i personally found it VERY interesting how the foundations for blackfishing were getting laid after things like blackgirlmagic went viral. VERY interesting. black women were getting proud and confident and white girls wanted in on that.

[@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024]

They still want in on it 😭

[@twoeggs2760]

Shoutout to Normani, holding it down for dark-skinned women in the music industry. Truly the most underrated fifth harmony member.

[@twoeggs2760]

@@madisonmason384 You know, ur absolutely right! Just added waves to my music library.

[@jasamkojajesam6108]

That's the worse singer ever

[@clarissa.soeiro6194]

Exactly, people are still sleeping on her tho. I'm so happy that Ariana got her to open her Sweetener tour concerts to give her some recognition to expand her plataform ♡

[@maiandagriffith]

PREACH

[@MissAprilCakes]

S. B. Ur opinion, not facts

[@keiramuller4575]

I used to think Ariana was Latina. My mom almost didn’t believe me when I said she was Italian. 😐

[@Reproductions93]

Italy is technically a latino country Italian is a language that cames from Latin, exactly as Spanish And latino is not a race

[@veronicaaccouche1478]

She is not

[@hanzib31]

@Shadow Gang Tarots Grande is Italian? Or where you being sarcastic. It wasnt clear! 😊

[@hanzib31]

@Shadow Gang Tarots cool. Yeah I know, French too. 😊

[@shellyloonatic5318]

@@Reproductions93 Italy is a latin country, not a latino country.

[@TheNial120]

16:50 is the key honestly. She is obviously heavily influenced by black culture her whole production and writing team was black for the thank u nezt album. Difference between her and Miley is that Miley came in profiting then went back to the whiteness when she was done being EDGY

[@user-dn1mw3zn9w]

Ari was borrowing and miley was literally stealing

[@swtnrbby4679]

Victoria Monet is Ariana grandes second hand when it comes to writing and producing music, makes a lot of sense

[@evanescence3079]

Ariana is clever af to make POC make her music for her so she can blame them when people call her out lmao

[@headoverdiors]

@@evanescence3079 no??? she just likes to work with her best friends. who happen to be black. y'all want these white artists to include and credit minorities in their work, but when they do its a problem and y'all wanna call it out.

[@helenatube]

@MAYAH ATCHISON What's funny to me is when everyone started calling out Ariana for copying Mariah, a genuinely mixed/black artist, Ariana started demanding that interviewers were not allowed to ever bring up Mariah in their questions. That made me feel very darkly toward her because Mariah had to break through cultural and racial barriers and was relentlessly criticized for popularizing R&B/hip hop in the 90s. Mariah is just one in a long line of mixed/black artists who faced a lot of negativity as they brought black music into the mainstream. Ariana clearly shows no respect for those who inspire, pioneer, and produce the music that she profits from, a.k.a. black artists.

[@musicallover8401]

Then why doesn't she use her clout to promote her POC friends. She uses them to make hits and then lets their music flop. @@headoverdiors

[@ofsubstancenotmaterial]

@@musicallover8401 are u dumb?? she does promote them

[@TracyDaleydoll]

I feel like the Kardashians are doing this on a much bigger scale. Everyone thinks Ariana Grande is Latina, from my experience anyway

[@odette6328]

@RedRose7997 Latina isn't a race.

[@Isa-yp2rr]

@@odette6328 about 60% of actual hispanic people would say otherwise Latin americans can be of any race but 2/3s would describe it as part of their ethnic and racial backgrounds

[@isabelcervantes2945]

DAPHNE am Mexican, according to you what would me my race? I’m asking in a good way, I always see people complaining about the whole thing “Latino is not a race” but in my point of view it is, we are indeed a different race, a race that comes from a lot of mixture but still we are different than being white for example. I honestly would like to know :) sorry if my English is not the best

[@anniesari1527]

HausOfCortez I have a question why would u say “Latinx” instead of “Latin” I’m just wondering ☺️

[@GraduateJLN]

Her name isn’t even pronounced “Gron-day” she purposely doesn’t correct people so they think she’s hispanic and not Italian

[@kayj2093]

Ariana Grande is the perfect example of how Kylie Jenner used black based trends and culture to financially capitalise off of it 💯 Only difference is that Ariana has talent and her niche is music!

[@moukhu]

Wooow! true

[@birdinyongo104]

Very true, unfortunately there are still black women that still look up to the Kartrashian. Kylie Jenner became a billionaire simulating blackness only if black people put that much power and money into our own who would the Kartrashian be.

[@melanatedwoman3760]

Kay J ...Tyga, a blk man, advice her on changing her ugliness to what she looks like today, in order to gain more, and gain more she did. Everybody who can't make it in the business on their birth- look is automatically biracial looking or ambiguous now. But the original blks, well, we stay Blk.

[@nicolesmith4371]

Exactly!

[@merchantfan]

It's definitely a thing the Kardashians helped start. Before them the aesthique was much more the Paris Hilton (very skinny and blonde).

[@Marvins_Gaye]

As a white heterosexual male, I greatly enjoy your videos bc you offer perspective, depth and awareness to those in the white community who have the luxury and privilege of not having to view the world through a racial lens. I can guarantee your videos bring awareness to white folks that have none❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Pipppo]

Is the fact you're white hetero male really that relevant here? Almost like you're bragging.

[@nava6474]

no privilege at all, we have the same rights. Don't believe all this baloney

[@Marvins_Gaye]

@@nava6474 Same rights on paper maybe. Definitely not the same privilege. Banks don’t ‘RED LINE’ white homeowners and business owners. Whites notoriously receive lighter criminal sentencing. Even in education, white suburban high schools are wayyyy more funded than black or Latino schools. Lol this isn’t exactly “hidden” informations either🤦‍♂️

[@mubashirasyedali]

Coming here after her Asianbaiting backlash.

[@spellman007]

The only real question here is if she will give this look up in 5 years like Miley Cyrus did and call it her "bad girl" phase like it was always just a put on. ..

[@SerenityPassion]

Exactly still annoyed no one checked miley especially after the MTV awards a while back

[@rra7490]

Yup, Ariana will go back to looking white and black and brown people still black and brown.

[@nicolesmith4371]

Telisha3 Claiborne yup! We NEED to stop supporting these ripoffs

[@rra7490]

Well awareness is the first step, I just thought she was an over hyped pop star but now I know she is another fake money making strategy, I see past their game.

[@rabidheartbeats5953]

I'm an Xtina fan but it must be said. Around 2002-2004 Xtina was darker than Lil' Kim and stared talking in Ebonics. And her album at that the time was very hip-hop inspired. And not 3 years later she was looking like a Republican's wife.

[@BL00DYR0S31]

1:05 Girl that ain’t classically feminine she’s freaking orange.

[@gabrielavillanueva3606]

I know, she can be Donald Trump's daughter

[@bloomfiery3922]

Lmaoo

[@bloomfiery3922]

@@gabrielavillanueva3606 nah don't bring her down like that she's way better and much more attractive

[@armanijohnson4272]

Insatiable Folie how can someone...nvm stay in school

[@terry2843]

its very clearly a very, very oversaturated video.. did you not see those bright ass flowers.

[@joannelee5574]

Some of the comments really trying to argue that Italians are “Latino” bc they’re from a Latin country😭😭 THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS???? Latino means of LATIN AMERICAN ORIGIN, and I promise you Italy is NOT Latin American, fresh hell. Are y’all so desperate to defend Ariana that you’ll literally spout pure bullshit?? (The video’s not even attacking ariana, and I agree!! She’s talented, but it’s really not hard to see that there definitely is an aesthetic trend that includes her also) The video gave a perfectly rational message SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE AND, idk, COMMON SENSE, but I was so genuinely astounded by the sheer amount of stupid in the comments that I had to vent. Just… please go back to school… for sanity’s sake… Edit: reworded some things smh

[@swtnrbby4679]

I’m an arianator and I completely agree with you

[@gavinfrancisromero3474]

Then u're not a real Arianator..this was already debunked

[@swtnrbby4679]

@@gavinfrancisromero3474 debunked? Sure it’s old but it isn’t a theory, it’s an objective observation, one that I agree on

[@headoverdiors]

@@swtnrbby4679 that you still agree on?? when she's literally stopped with those dramatic ass fans?? if you were a true fan you would know her olive skin complexion was always there since she was a child. and you would know the "black aesthetic" is highly influenced by the black peoples that she hangs around a lot with.

[@swtnrbby4679]

@@headoverdiors I still agree she profited off the mixed race speculations to do something she’s been wanting to do since 2014 which is going urban. No she didn’t have olive skin, she just tans well because she’s Italian but that’s neither here or there, you can’t deny there’s an issue when majority of your black audience is speculating that you’re mixed race because of the thank you next a aesthetic and the whole “I can rap too” “yuh”.. she never responded to the people calling her out for it because it’s a marketing move her team wanted to do, since her personality was already based on her black friends and black media.. there’s nothing that could go wrong.. but she took it to a whole new level in thank you next. we all know pop music profits off of racially ambiguous people not white blondes anymore...

[@helenatube]

whoa, a rational ari fan who admits her brand is problematic? you're like a unicorn to me lol. most of her fans are so out of touch with reality, they don't even recognize the level of blackfishing and optical illusions this celebrity uses to boost her own career.

[@jediyarahim-danford7592]

Everybody sleeping on Janelle Monae

[@denyshadials5702]

Jediya Rahim - Danford She’s too busy playing her cards right. They way these industries are nowadays, I really don’t blame her. The spotlight is the biggest target.

[@xlectraheart]

she's kinda annoying tbh

[@beardpandaa]

Steve Lacey, ravyn lenae, H.E.R., daniel caesar, etc all very much underrated

[@JordanWilliams-ix2td]

And summer walker

[@aura6485]

Don't forget Lizzo. I would mentioned NAO but she is a British artist so I double any Americans would know here. I am kinda happy that in the UK we see more average black people (be it lighter or darker skinned people) However, there is still colorisim deep rooted in the music industry. Think of Jorja Smith? (I forgot her name) she is good... Don't get me wrong but at the same time people like NAO isn't given the same love and it isn't hard to see why.

[@yazmina84]

"Black has always been cool." I need this as a bumper sticker.

[@rockwitu96]

Yazmina make it?

[@rachelm.3173]

🙌

[@AM-ij4mv]

True comes from the African motherland because black exist everywhere not just America there mixed in Latin America, in Europe, and Australia

[@galaxygrl4466]

Yea😎😎😎😙

[@ruvimbonyandoro9689]

Dr. killpatient ain’t nobody know who that is but ok

[@amishbee2879]

Can u PLEASE DO AN update on this because she looks much different 🌝

[@sarahsheary2604]

Can I say that I’m so happy I fell upon this video? I’ve heard a lot about black fishing and cultural appropriation. Every time I’ve heard that the difference between appropriation vs. appreciation is that they need to give credit to those that they took from. And I was confuse how would someone go about doing that? How could they show that appreciation? Your video helped explain everything I needed. They need to share their platform with others from the culture they’re influenced by so they can get notoriety they deserve. Loved your video ♥️

[@MzJamaicanBeauty12]

This whole time I’ve just thought she was Hispanic. Black or mixed has never crossed my mind

[@gabibabiii]

She is Latina.. I'm not really sure why Ari is the subject of this.. There are actual white girls who try to be black.. Kylie Jenner is a white girl who wants to be mixed or Latina

[@alisonq4484]

@@gabibabiii Ariana is completely white. Her last name was originally pronounced "Grandee" until it was changed in her granparents' generation to sound less foreign. The main reason why people think she's latina is because "Grande" is a spanish word and her skin is tan, but she's not, she's entirely white. Did you watch the video? Kylie Jenner is similar to Ariana in going for this mixed/Latina aesthetic, yeah. She's just waaaaaaaaay worse about it than Ariana.

[@cheshire4564]

Jhoie ariana is NOT latina or anywhere close to it. shes italian...

[@Rainberri]

@@alisonq4484 isn't one of her parents Hispanic tho?

[@MzJamaicanBeauty12]

Queen Nae stans BTS according to google she’s Italian American. Her parents are Sicilian and Abruzzese which are both Italian 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@Dontsaynoto]

As a black girl. I believe I am not defined by my hair, the shade of my skin, my shoes, my clothes. So I firmly believe that how you present yourself does not represent who you are🤷🏾‍♀️

[@lanarashed9047]

OLIVIASWEET i couldn’t agree more

[@tonijanelle4400]

Amen.

[@sydm7153]

Yes girl preach!

[@BlackGirlLovesAnime6]

How you present yourself is an extension of who you are as a person and what kind of person you are. I get what you're trying to say but you cant be too delusional

[@katieinflora9346]

OLIVIASWEET I agree and maybe Arianna just likes being dark tanned not because she wants to be black. Maybe she likes that person when she looks in the mirror.

[@olivia-ty9sx]

Purses and clothes can go in and out of styles. But skin colors, No. I'm mixed and even I hate this stuff. A skin color is not an accessory. It's okay to tan, but pls don't go 5 shades darker. Some ones ethnicity is not a piece of clothing to wear for a bit.

[@sladeezekielsachs3855]

Black ain’t trendy no mo’ …now she gotta be Asian lmao

[@nava6474]

she just likes tanned skin, period

[@CooolioBaby]

Not anymore🤣🤣🤣

[@mardycv535]

"silky edges and a teaspoon of talent" had me snorting water out my nose!!!

[@nicoledeveraux4322]

“Girl, no. I’m grown. I’ve got bills to pay.” Skkgkgdkgkgkgkldkfjfjgj trueeee

[@cosmodusty]

i thought she WAS mixed until like last year

[@augustayazzie]

“Cute white Disney star!” 😂

[@ellentaylor-king5680]

Should we tell her 😂

[@askaaska3970]

Ahe ain't white

[@roseycage]

Nickelodeon

[@CooolioBaby]

She paper white

[@joelmillerfanclub]

this whole “shes italian!!” argument is so old... first of all, her tan is obviously fake and if you can’t see that then you’re delusional, and even if her tan was natural, that’s not the only thing that shows how she’s gotten into the whole mixed girl aesthetic, its the tan but also the way she speaks, the way she carries herself and many other things. or are gonna tell me that her suddenly starting to use AAVE is also bc shes italian? i can assure that tan italians don’t look mixed

[@accountnolongerinuse2044]

Thing is that I myself wouldn't be saying anything if she actually was tan during her Victorious times. She was PALE. If she actually was a tan italian from the beginning, nobody would've said anything. Now over the years she has just gotten darker and darker and she's giving off that ''popular'' mixed race look.

[@amaliab6682]

I posted this above but I'm sorry I'm gonna say it again: The vast majority of Italians look just as white as most other types of whites, SOME Italians are darker, and guess what? They're the minority and have always have been and still are looked down on by other Italians in Italy and called all sorts of awful shit, so it's overwhelmingly disingenuous for 4th gen Italian-Americans who are naturally pale and would NEVER naturally tan That dark to use the darker Italians that their grandparents or great-grandparents would have spat on as a "gotchya" to justify fake tanning themselves 10 shades darker than they would naturally tan. Ariana's tan is ridiculous and obviously not even close to being natural, both her parents look like generic white people that could be from almost anywhere in Europe. End of discussion. Most of my family immigrated to Italy and has been living there for decades, Italians are white and Italians in Italy consider themselves white and are as racist and xenophobic as any other white people. So Americans who are the descendants of Italians and desperately want to distance themselves from whiteness now that it's "trendy" to be ~ambiguous can take a hike. It's transparent and disingenuous as hell. These people have practically nothing to do with Italian culture anyways.

[@QUEERVEEART]

IF all ari did was get a tan, i wouldnt have an issue, but its with everything else too. i dont think its wrong to have a tan even if its dark, but when you are intentionally appropriating culture also, thats where its a problem i think.

[@contourbae]

z did u know she used 3 shades lighter of foundation tho?? she tweeted it in 2011... she only wore it when she recorded bc she was forced. that’s why she looked slightly darker at events

[@gabriellahanley3314]

ugh rina girl what? she’s already said that she was forced to wear makeup 3 times lighter than her actual skin when she was on nick. she’s the same shade she was as a child, and is the same shade as the rest of her family. most of the pictures of her “blackfishing” HAVE ALREADY BEEN PROVEN TO BE PHOTOSHOPPED. and a quick google search will show you her the actual, unedited pictures. don’t come at her for using AAVW, because if you did that you’d have to cancel all of gen s and stan twitter for using it as well. before speak, do your research 💀

[@danielbergonzi7319]

The fact that Ariana is as Dark as Nicki is as shocking as the fact that Beyoncé is as light as Shakira....

[@veronicaschwarz22]

But that's because Shakira tans A LOT, please google pictures of Shakira back in the 90s and she was white as paper

[@user-lb3up4rq2i]

Facts 💯 everybody is trying to look racially ambiguous

[@curlyxvoun2605]

Daniel Bergonzi girl Beyoncé used to tan. Her skin color now is her REAL complexion.... y’all swear she’s bleaching but look dumb🙄

[@veronicaschwarz22]

@@curlyxvoun2605 maybe the top commentator was implying that Shakira tans a lot and looks way darker than what she really is

[@TheBuildingFreak]

But Ariana has some black in her

[@marysemi4199]

Why someone tanning is such a big deal ....

[@leavemealone3304]

It’s not but she takes it too far

[@headoverdiors]

@@leavemealone3304 she literally doesn't tho??? the last time she tanned dark was in 2016. 5 years ago... and all y'all do is bring up the same photos from 5 years ago.

[@ghostie7790]

Girl you are PREACHING I'm feelin I should have brought my Bible and note pad.

[@tinnycrochets]

"girl no! I'm grown i have bills to pay" I felt this

[@100problemsnot99]

bitch i felt that too..

[@marciaboland6103]

Same.

[@materialhell]

This is how I feel with all callout culture.

[@saeedaaden3088]

She was so real damn

[@contiflex]

I dont understand how I ended up on your video! Anyway, as a 66 year old Brit granny I found your video fascinating and very very interesting. You've made some very valid points about body image and how the younger generation (to me everyone is young!) want to mimic other cultures. Thanks x

[@raytas9140]

contiflex thanks for listening girl, hope all is well.

[@youtubeconsumer8474]

everyone is copying and in some way culturally appropriating, straightening your hair is trying to be white you could say if you perm your hair you're trying to be black. We need to just live and let others live try to remove the hate. Think long and hard is it affecting you if someone wants to bronze their skin? is the person bothering you that much you can't eat it's preventing you from getting money? have you not realized anyone can be brown italians,mexicans,white people. it's absurd we are so bothered we need to comment about it all the fucken time we will always continue to share our cultures and "culturally appropriate" it's how the world is i do feel racism is an issue but it's not connected to cultural appropriation in my opinion.

[@aprilkutie]

@@youtubeconsumer8474 black people can have straight hair, as well as latinx and Asian folks! It's really telling that you think straight hair is limited to white people. It seems like you don't know much about white privilege and cultural appropriation.

[@June___ndns]

we stan a woke granny 👏🏽

[@kierieburton6779]

I don't know how I got here either! 😅🤣 This video came up as recommended..... really not sure why. Interesting though. I'm also a Brit x

[@t-o-m-m]

I find it a bit weird that the chair is the background and you're sat on the floor 😅

[@bella-se1mx]

To be honest i dont get why Ariana never got cancelled 🥴

[@reginecastillo2989]

Pretty privelege

[@stuff1784]

The music is too catchy 😂

[@tamiram1871]

she doesn't need to be cancelled

[@helenatube]

Right? Between the donut licking, shadiness toward Mariah, stories of her being a bitch to people who work for her and blatantly profiting off black culture without giving anything back to the community, why is she still a thing when so many others have already been canceled for much less?

[@kosmikos_]

@@helenatube also, she's had problems with I think 3 different people she's collaborated with? Yet somehow it's always her coworkers "being jealous" that's the issue, not the common factor in each situation

[@andreaj8319]

"everybody looks like a grown up North West." 😂😂

[@sherrie8221]

Andrea J North is a cutie though!

[@100problemsnot99]

they tryna be black like this 👩🏽 and not like this 👩🏿.

[@miriamhavard7621]

👍 just like Rachel Dolezal......

[@blessingashanti7039]

Yet they wanna have the features of 👧🏿

[@irrelevance3859]

Exactly Exactly. They do not want to look black they want to look 'mixed', 'racially ambiguous', 'ethnic', 'exotic'. The same way the Kardashians do.

[@feeniix6]

Why did i read this in Funky Dineva's voice.

[@blessingashanti7039]

@@irrelevance3859 yes they do want to look black. These are "black features".

[@mrasmussen90]

I’m pretty pasty white most of the time but I do tan pretty easily.... but I still don’t look mixed when I’m tanner. I just look like a white girl with a tan. These girls are also tweaking other parts of their appearance to look “mixed” or “black” or whatever they’re going for.

[@SaltyMouse10]

This. Holy crap this.

[@tiamelancholyjeoncockity]

I literally thought she was Mexican when I first saw her and heard her name, or thought she just a very pale Mexican when I saw her in that Disney show 💀 her last name is Grande and has all the physical features that makes her look Mexican

[@Snicklez89]

You had me at the title lmao! For a VERY long time i thought Ariana was Latina. When i found out she wasn’t i was truly hurt 😂

[@noone9472]

I found out in this video that she wasn't latina

[@msbeautifull34]

@@noone9472 me too!😂

[@TuAmigoElMorrocoy]

She's a dark skin Italian. Some southern Europeans have darker skin and are borderline brown. I thought Mark Ruffalo was Mexican too, he's 100% Italian

[@JS-hf3oz]

I mean she's Latin but not Latina

[@meriani777]

@@TuAmigoElMorrocoy I feel you. I thought Antonio Bendares and Penelope Cruz were mestizo Latinx but I believe they are White Latinx, Europeans from Spain.

[@MJvdeos13]

Im gonna be 100% honest when I read the title I felt a little annoyed and skeptic about you and what you were gonna say. I honestly didn’t believe I was gonna learn as much as I did by watching this video. Thanks for your insight on this topic

[@ivaheart4993]

Same here. Still not sure I believe Ariana is a blackfisher but I still learned a lot from this video.

[@daydreamishh]

Same!

[@corinnas2706]

So true!!

[@Lovelyswan101]

I got an odd vibe from her initially, but I'm giving her a chance. interesting

[@ChlorineHeart]

yeah same, it was actually super interesting

[@sophiafbezerra4231]

Growing up latina in North America Im seeing things I was ostracized for being done by non-latinx people and it’s wild.

[@user-cf6oi1ou8h]

Thank you for looking at this from such an objective point of view. Perspectives like yours help me, as a young white girl understand the effects of cultural appropriation without feeling like I’m a terrible person for not being informed.

[@prettyastri]

Yes!!! Go off. P.s: dont eat food from other cultures. So only eat vegtables and fruits! And dont go out in the sun so you arent trying to be POC

[@dangercat9188]

What's your ancestry? Like German, Irish, English...

[@MsLadyK1987]

White is still in. Now girls and some guys want to be what I call spicy white. The Sicilian, Armenian, Kardashian white but exotic look.

[@LemonSte]

Agreed. Took me a long time to figure out where the hellthe Kardashian are from, but the Kardashians don't even look like the Kardashians tbh lmao hella plastic surgery and makeup. The before and after is insane

[@eartianwerewolf]

Spicy white 😂

[@ashleighcalloway886]

And the spicy white still isn't even white 100 years ago Italians and Irish weren't white. I wonder when that change happened

[@JaysWife]

@@ashleighcalloway886 What are you talking about? They used to be considered "low class" maybe but white is white.

[@VentraleStar]

@@JaysWife White is not a static term and is used differently in time and place. 100 years ago Italians and Irish were definitely white because race based off phenotypes was a thing. 300 years ago it wasn't. White would be a descriptor of skin color but the American classification (because it was largely American; many European societies had a more national view of race) of race was not a thing and even when it did come into social consciousness not all modern "white" groups were actually considered white. There's actually book called "How the Irish Became White" that's pretty interesting (also Italians were never considered" low class" in anything, I mean this is the homeland of the Roman empire, just saying) We have to remember that race isn't really genetically sound and is a horrible classification of people that makes little genetic sense.

[@chaniyatillis6439]

I remember staring at the mirror after scrolling down Instagram and wishing I was mixed it really affects ur mindset

[@gregoryjeffrey8569]

It really does i wish i was a afro latina im a latina myself

[@rachellinaaa]

I remember wishing I was mixed with lighter skin, and hazel eyes and loose beautiful curls (of course not all mixed people look like this), but that's what was portrayed on social media and that's what was deemed as beautiful... So we need to be careful of how much me idolize a certain group of people or certain features more than others.

[@youtubeconsumer8474]

it only affects you if you're weak minded

[@oceanelocquet2911]

Yeah I use to, but now I love myself and being black. I feel beautiful whatever society says ✊🏾

[@youtubeconsumer8474]

@@oceanelocquet2911 im glad every shade is beautiful!

[@thefleurette]

This video is so well informed! Amazing input on this topic.

[@Bunnyjuniorfan]

This is a really important video. Thank you for sharing :)

[@mellowmorgan]

My ass thought she was either hispanic or a frappuccino.

[@Despoina-jk2bp]

mellowmorgan same😂

[@joec3641]

mellowmorgan she’s 100 percent Italian and wtf is a Frappuccino

[@rat5597]

da real hype wall you must be Italian ahah Frappuccino is just one of the many ways Americans have insulted the art of making a cappuccino

[@joec3641]

Prìam Ayers so why did this person call grande a Frappuccino

[@rat5597]

da real hype wall i guess cus she meant she was mixed? Since Frappuccino is done with coffee (black) and milk (white)

[@inessa5923]

Y'all act like the only way to be mixed is to be partly dark-skinned. There are so many ethnic groups in the world.

[@corinneisboring]

exactly im white and hispanic(colombian) and no one would know it

[@eaiza8285]

I'm half Asian half white and some dumbass literally told me I wasn't mixed that being mixed means you're part black and I'm like ???????? boi bye

[@Aleto13]

@@corinneisboring hispanic is "considered" white. unless you're native american. cos hispanic only means you're from a spanish speaking country, it's not a race. you can be hispanic and be black.

[@nijohn12]

It works in other races nobody said it didn't. Look up Weeaboos LMFAO. Think this girl only feel entitled to talk about what she knows.

[@inessa5923]

nijohn12 Come at me after you’ve read the comments lol

[@joshlarson1252]

I really really really really appreciate your videos. Your offer such nuanced takes and perspectives on very complex and loaded issues. I was leave with so much to think and reflect about. And I always feel like I have words to put to lofty ideas that I’ve previously had a hard time explaining to others or even myself.

[@needyyy9774]

Sis.... she’s explained this several times! During her Nickelodeon days they would make her wear makeup 10 shades lighter then her regular skin tone! And often most of these pics that people are putting up are photoshopped as hell.

[@soseiquenadasei2156]

Yaaaas she already explained people are so annoying !! To speak ill of her they speak but to speak the things she has already done well hahahahahahaahaha no if she wasn't that famous nobody would care, just use her to gain views... she says a lot of really important things but why she put Ariana in the tittle when she can say that she is going to talk about a lot of girls and stuff

[@tah.loaf_ah]

They want our rhythm but not our blues 💅🏼💅🏼

[@KWJanJan]

PREACH

[@pandoraheartsvd]

I hate how many get away with stealing and profiting from black features and culture.

[@sharr630]

Good one!

[@_blk_daria_]

S TTYL well said

[@multijxde1855]

Wow , I need that on a shirt

[@ellagris]

she owns the entire fenty shade range

[@ayadhyist]

BYE 😭💀

[@sidniemcgraw5136]

This is the first video of yours I've watched and I just want to say I really appreciate the way you convey your perspective. Growing up we didnt talk about race in my home, not negatively or positively it just wasn't spoken about, in the last few years I've been seeking out a better understanding of black women's perspective in this world and I've found that it's often presented with such animosity- which is completley warranted, but leads to a lot of feelings of guilt and shame, and feeling like there is no place for me in these conversations, even as a listener. I really appreciate that you're creating an open and safe dialogue here for all people to grow and learn and change for the better.