Ariel & The Bad Guy have different views on the Jon Jones-Francis Ngannou situation | ESPN MMA

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Ariel Helwani and Chael Sonnen discuss the magnitude of a potential heavyweight title fight between new champion Francis Ngannou and former light heavyweight king Jon Jones.
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0:00 Ariel discusses how big the fight could be and hopes negotiations stay out of the public eye.
2:28 Chael says that Francis has other opponents that could draw similar interest.
4:55 The guys continue to disagree.
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@corbinpeter
@corbinpeter 3 жыл бұрын
This is a classic case of Ariel hates Dana and Chael hates Jon
@thehh5118
@thehh5118 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on. But I have to say, the argument's leaning towards Chael.
@seanmatthewking
@seanmatthewking 3 жыл бұрын
@@thehh5118 Lol no way. He states Derrick Lewis beating Ngannou as a point of promotion...but all the fans know that was a garbage display on both their parts. Granted, I think the rematch will be much better, but Chael fails to articulate why. Chael also says shame on Ariel for talking about money? This whole conversation is about money. Chael is full of it. And he also says the Masvidal Leon fight didn’t happen because of bad behavior and bad behavior like Jones’s needs to be disincentived? This is such BS. I understand why the UFC doesn’t like that behavior, but Chael is supposed to be objective. All Jones originally said was “show me the money,” and Dana went and made it contentious. Jon is just doing his best to get the right number, and while you can argue his tactics might backfire, Chael speaks like a man doing Dana’s bidding. Only thing Ariel is wrong about is that this fight probably isn’t at the level he’s suggesting, but I think to get the full picture we have to look at various Jones and Ngannou PPVs.
@Jacketz123
@Jacketz123 3 жыл бұрын
@@thehh5118 nah, nobody wants to see Ngannou vs Lewis again after the first performance. I think Jon will be asking for a lot though, probably wants to take the HW title and retire so he wants to make bank
@clockworkman8210
@clockworkman8210 3 жыл бұрын
except chael is correct
@boreduser12
@boreduser12 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, definitely chael hates jon. Im agreeing with ariel. I hate both dana and jon.
@akash-dsouza
@akash-dsouza 3 жыл бұрын
Chael has mastered the ancient art of talking alot and saying absolutely nothing.
@dominiktet7922
@dominiktet7922 3 жыл бұрын
Haha true
@lightstrider6497
@lightstrider6497 3 жыл бұрын
Well done
@Ventis1HerO
@Ventis1HerO 3 жыл бұрын
so true
@jaywolfdesigns
@jaywolfdesigns 3 жыл бұрын
does he ever take a breath?
@Mark-oj8wj
@Mark-oj8wj 3 жыл бұрын
That's what happens when you try to appear more intelligent than you are.
@devincook2958
@devincook2958 3 жыл бұрын
The minute Ariel said ,”You also stated it was the worst Ufc fights in history”. Won him this debate .
@lucasoltmans7801
@lucasoltmans7801 3 жыл бұрын
its the classic chael hating on JJ
@madtrigger6835
@madtrigger6835 3 жыл бұрын
Chanel made 4 points Ariel responds to one and he wins
@shimigi7
@shimigi7 3 жыл бұрын
@@madtrigger6835 Not one of his points is valid. Maybe 1 and not even that.
@shaunrooney7988
@shaunrooney7988 3 жыл бұрын
Chael won that debate
@coledavidson618
@coledavidson618 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who understands fighting knows every fight is different. On the surface it looks like a good point by Ariel but it’s actually foolish if you look a little deeper
@MartialMind
@MartialMind 3 жыл бұрын
What exactly did Chael just say?
@maleration7863
@maleration7863 3 жыл бұрын
Chael "The master of talking a lot, but not saying anything either " Sonnen
@presswoodard3730
@presswoodard3730 3 жыл бұрын
@@maleration7863 lol Chael transformed from the bad guy to the company man Sonnen
@howardhavardramberg7160
@howardhavardramberg7160 3 жыл бұрын
I just got real dumb listening to Chael lmao
@corysaint7577
@corysaint7577 3 жыл бұрын
He said the facts... Jon doesnt want to fight. Dana said yes. Dana said call hunter right now
@Bori.1776
@Bori.1776 3 жыл бұрын
Alright, let’s break it down for you. People saying Jon Jones vs Francis is the biggest fight for the UFC are flat out wrong (Jon has never been that valuable to the ufc), choosing Jon means that you’re going for 1 slightly big night of profit vs having 3 to 4 big nights of profits for the company and finally Jon wants to be rewarded for bad behavior yet he has has no leverage and seems to actually be trying to not get this fight.
@Razear
@Razear 3 жыл бұрын
You know Ariel about to get serious when his voice cracks like a pre-pubescent teenager.
@lbj2320
@lbj2320 3 жыл бұрын
female" teenager
@chrisredmayne
@chrisredmayne 3 жыл бұрын
He went full on Jerry Seinfeld
@omraikar8517
@omraikar8517 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't he sound like Morty?
@TheDb2450
@TheDb2450 3 жыл бұрын
Its because it involves shekels
@rpraj3135
@rpraj3135 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel makes much more sense in my opinion. I totally disagree with Chael.
@SlayLee01
@SlayLee01 3 жыл бұрын
I bet Chael already got a text saying if this fight is happening or not already...
@joe2653
@joe2653 3 жыл бұрын
Jon’s still living rent free in Chaels head
@michaelmashburn6068
@michaelmashburn6068 3 жыл бұрын
The last truth bender, Chael Sonnen
@jboyle453519
@jboyle453519 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@chitoes1707
@chitoes1707 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmashburn6068 that was the truth and roast of Ariel. Even agreed at the end.
@RahulSingh-ue4po
@RahulSingh-ue4po 3 жыл бұрын
Chael sucks
@HemiJB91
@HemiJB91 3 жыл бұрын
I wish this was a open video conference so we all could join and back up Ariel for once lol
@Pop1nsk1
@Pop1nsk1 3 жыл бұрын
I listen to Chael's podcast on days when I want to test my patience.
@Luey-E
@Luey-E 2 жыл бұрын
@Christopher McMillan he's entertaining to listen to cuz he has a unique pov. The problem is he thinks he knows what he's talking about like how he thinks he's undefeated. Also, I'm sure he gets told what to say on certain topics
@AceofDlamonds
@AceofDlamonds 2 жыл бұрын
Im baffled as to why Jones thinks 8-10M is too low. That's about what McGregor asked for before the rematch against Diaz. Jones is clearly nowhere near top draw. By the intrigue of this fight alone we will see huge numbers, but 10M is in that ballpark of what this fight is worth. Jones is plain asking for too much.
@Ofwudann
@Ofwudann 2 жыл бұрын
@@AceofDlamonds classical example of somebody who knows absolutely nothing about what their talking about.
@aaronjackson9603
@aaronjackson9603 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luey-E undisputed undefeated🔥🔥🔥 never even lost a round
@lbj2320
@lbj2320 3 жыл бұрын
Best Ariel and the Bad guy segment ever. Made me laugh so much, "EXCUSE ME EXCUSE ME!!" "You've LOST YOUR MIND! You''ve lost youre MIND!" "When my mouth moves your mouth closes lets remember how this works"
@danielhennessy6631
@danielhennessy6631 3 жыл бұрын
Reminded me of Chael talking to that crazy friend on his old podcast lol
@shroomgod1990
@shroomgod1990 3 жыл бұрын
I still think chael lost this battle
@agentcodybanx8909
@agentcodybanx8909 3 жыл бұрын
@@shroomgod1990 chael is undefeated
@nickmildon6348
@nickmildon6348 3 жыл бұрын
@@shroomgod1990 never lost a round
@hdgbillyo6908
@hdgbillyo6908 3 жыл бұрын
The way Ariel laughs at him is great as well.
@BenWhiffs
@BenWhiffs 3 жыл бұрын
Chael will find any angle to diss Jones
@CE-pd6bf
@CE-pd6bf 3 жыл бұрын
Yep chael is still sour from that defeat
@Whobilation
@Whobilation 3 жыл бұрын
@@CE-pd6bf He really shouldn’t be. He didn’t even deserve that fight and he got absolutely beaten down inside one round just like everyone knew he would.
@zannutihattenburg5169
@zannutihattenburg5169 3 жыл бұрын
It's because Jon humiliated him by defeating him in the exact way he claimed he would beat Jon.
@mmajunkie4687
@mmajunkie4687 3 жыл бұрын
My ni99a I use to love chael. Dude startin to sound like a real sour a$$ pu$$
@jadonplox
@jadonplox 3 жыл бұрын
thats why its so fun to rewatch the jon chael fight all the time XD search it up after he talks about jon
@AliKanu
@AliKanu 3 жыл бұрын
I love Ariel. So articulate and tactful. This time he is going all out on Chael.
@korlu01
@korlu01 3 жыл бұрын
The first time ever when Ariel’s overly personal questions about money are actually necessary
@ninjaword61
@ninjaword61 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao so true
@RRich100
@RRich100 3 жыл бұрын
@Christopher McMillan He's a journalist, that's literally his business
@BERTRAND85O
@BERTRAND85O 3 жыл бұрын
Chael cmon now lol
@santanacee
@santanacee 3 жыл бұрын
nobody : chael sonnen : ok great. . .
@Mcfc2Rich
@Mcfc2Rich 3 жыл бұрын
Chael still sore from what Jon did to him 🩹
@nn4mz
@nn4mz 3 жыл бұрын
I know right
@stephenatkins8973
@stephenatkins8973 3 жыл бұрын
Got to agree with Ariel on this one
@jaredmartin7040
@jaredmartin7040 3 жыл бұрын
Chael isn't wrong here
@philippeedwards5813
@philippeedwards5813 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Chael is always, 100% of the time, on "i took too much coffee so i'm screaming but I don't realize it" type mood
@Mark-oj8wj
@Mark-oj8wj 3 жыл бұрын
He's the Dan Bongino of mma!
@Faisal-sf1gh
@Faisal-sf1gh 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta be careful with the pre workouts.
@1800cxllect
@1800cxllect 3 жыл бұрын
*adderall
@Josh92Hughes
@Josh92Hughes 3 жыл бұрын
*cocaine
@griffnotthatone6824
@griffnotthatone6824 3 жыл бұрын
People full off bs are often like that, to distract from the fact they really aren't saying anything
@Day-ZDuke
@Day-ZDuke 3 жыл бұрын
Chael contradicts himself so much it’s incredible “This should come down to straight competition!!......We are in the moneyfight era “
@Fred-ih9hd
@Fred-ih9hd 3 жыл бұрын
Chael is Dana’s biggest yes man. He even called him uncle Dana when he fought lol
@amsterdam7956
@amsterdam7956 3 жыл бұрын
Him or DC? Hmmmm
@howsitgoing3916
@howsitgoing3916 3 жыл бұрын
Yes man? Not really... chael is just a good promoter and business mind like dana is. Relax, fried fred.
@amsterdam7956
@amsterdam7956 3 жыл бұрын
@@howsitgoing3916 Yes he is... Everything Dana says he agrees with. Purely coincidence you say?
@abhisheknair6318
@abhisheknair6318 3 жыл бұрын
@@howsitgoing3916 he is working with espn because of Dana, get the drift lol
@howsitgoing3916
@howsitgoing3916 3 жыл бұрын
@@abhisheknair6318 chael has been known to draw numbers on espn since he was a fighter. He has a 700k subscriber youtube channel devoted to mma analysis. And you think he works at espn cause of dana? Then why is ariel an espn puppet?
@MetallicAddict15
@MetallicAddict15 3 жыл бұрын
No matter what the story, you can always count on Chael crapping on Jones
@jordanjason794
@jordanjason794 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Jones did beat chael after he lost to Silva.
@esmeeisen9919
@esmeeisen9919 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordanjason794 I dont think you remember that fight right. Chael gave mercy to jones but not before he broke his toe.
@chicocash
@chicocash 3 жыл бұрын
I love when Ariel got at chael lol, “Have you lost your mind” “are you crazy” “what are you taking about “ 😂
@jdmoore18
@jdmoore18 3 жыл бұрын
Yea Ariel needs to get slapped he doesn't know what the f*** he's talking about
@brianmudiwa6271
@brianmudiwa6271 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdmoore18 how is he wrong?
@lightinferno4490
@lightinferno4490 3 жыл бұрын
I usually don't like Ariel but he was spot on while Chael continues to be delusional.
@chicocash
@chicocash 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdmoore18 I gotta say Ariel is 99% right on this one!
@chicocash
@chicocash 3 жыл бұрын
@@lightinferno4490 agree 💯
@PathofVox
@PathofVox 3 жыл бұрын
First = Badass Interview, this really grabbed me Second = Seeing Ariel get in his element, comfortable speaking his mind even if he doesn't feel it's the "Popular" Opinion. To witness his evolution in his Confidence, for one, is personally motivating, and quite Admirable, particularly because of who he's paired with!
@sifu8056
@sifu8056 3 жыл бұрын
Priceless, Ariel's face at 3:06 after Chael's ludicrous response. You guys kill me lol
@aiyanhaque
@aiyanhaque 3 жыл бұрын
Uncle Chael lost his mind the day he found out Jon Jones finished him off with a broken toe.
@Deathskull0001
@Deathskull0001 3 жыл бұрын
Chael K. O.ed that toe and spared the man out of pity, don't fool yourself.
@JayJay-jw6zf
@JayJay-jw6zf 3 жыл бұрын
Chael covered up and lay in fear till the ref stopped the beat down
@Georges420
@Georges420 3 жыл бұрын
Anytime anywhere 3 weight classes 3 generations of fighters Chael p sonnen the goat undefeated undisputed
@jesuskofi1664
@jesuskofi1664 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deathskull0001 ok wwe fan we got you
@lightinferno4490
@lightinferno4490 3 жыл бұрын
Facts. I think he's obsessed with Jones. Jones is everything he wishes he was.
@AgosLive
@AgosLive 3 жыл бұрын
I respect Ariel, he speak his mind, and he is not afraid of saying he don't agree on something
@screenmonkey7103
@screenmonkey7103 3 жыл бұрын
I was with him up until "the second coming of Mike tyson" 🤣🤣
@mrjeinstein
@mrjeinstein 3 жыл бұрын
That was him saying if he were the UFC President and from a selling point you'd day whatever you could to get everyone in on it 😂 They already use "Biggest fight in UFC history" "Baddest man on the planet" "2 of the best fighters in the world" "Best striking the UFC has ever seen"
@johnorson6907
@johnorson6907 3 жыл бұрын
He hasn’t had to be in the same room with a fighter in over a year
@deaglefly4338
@deaglefly4338 3 жыл бұрын
@@screenmonkey7103 mike Tyson- scariest heavyweight knockout artist in boxing history. Francis Ngannou- scariest heavyweight knockout artist in mma history
@eh298
@eh298 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel's got low T.
@Ritalie
@Ritalie 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel is secretly an immortal vampire who hasn't aged at all in 15 years.
@johnsmith4912
@johnsmith4912 3 жыл бұрын
"Rewards bad behavior." Glosses over Conor throwing dolly through a bus window and the fact that Masvidal is the one who assaulted Leon and didn't/doesn't want that fight (because he will lose). And that, my friends, is why you don't listen to Chael sonnen. He is the Skip Bayless of MMA.
@bravablaze9358
@bravablaze9358 3 жыл бұрын
Send warning when Ariel goes high pitch again! 🤣
@peco3806
@peco3806 3 жыл бұрын
he needs one of those pitch readers that just mutes the mic when it gets too high.
@maurecemoses9441
@maurecemoses9441 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel's voice had every right to be high pitched when talking about Curtis blades 😂😂
@marianatequiero28
@marianatequiero28 3 жыл бұрын
Better when he sings !
@eddiesolo8044
@eddiesolo8044 3 жыл бұрын
Passionate!!!!! -Ariel helwani
@maurecemoses9441
@maurecemoses9441 3 жыл бұрын
@Robert Gonzalez first of all we all like Ariel if we are watching this 🤦... Second, you sound like a groupie..🤡
@solyhhit
@solyhhit 3 жыл бұрын
Chael's psychology is simple. The more he argues for something, the less he believes it.
@lucasevergarden6601
@lucasevergarden6601 3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@woodywong76
@woodywong76 3 жыл бұрын
This might be the most insightful mma comment I've seen. This sums him up perfect.
@johnnyhernandez2770
@johnnyhernandez2770 3 жыл бұрын
Chael EYES WIDE OPEN “WHAAAT WHAAAT” “ E E EXCUSE ME EXCUSE ME” 🤣😂✊🏼
@ggomez2813
@ggomez2813 3 жыл бұрын
I need whatever chael smoking 💯
@amsterdam7956
@amsterdam7956 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaoooo for real. This dudes imagination is in another world
@shivendrasaxena2199
@shivendrasaxena2199 3 жыл бұрын
How generous is this of Chael to allow Jon to live in his head for so long.
@FaZeMandTaZeM
@FaZeMandTaZeM 3 жыл бұрын
U low key reminded me of Chaels anti Jones bias
@mcephas6982
@mcephas6982 3 жыл бұрын
Jones refused to answer Chael's question on ESPN and he holds a grudge because of what Chael said regarding his steroid use most likely. Since then Chael has taken every opportunity to troll Jon.
@anthonybenyamin9255
@anthonybenyamin9255 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcephas6982 and that's all this was. Chael agrees with Dana's thoughts and comments about Jon fighting Ngannou because of his dislike towards Jon
@themountains1701
@themountains1701 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcephas6982 Jon is the one who invites the trolls not Chael 😂😂😂
@pilsung26
@pilsung26 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love to hear a Chael talk; but but never forget this. He’s interviewing for Dana’s job
@Goozoozoo117
@Goozoozoo117 3 жыл бұрын
chael is still salty and ariel chewed him tf out😂
@lightinferno4490
@lightinferno4490 3 жыл бұрын
Lol yup
@plasma9839
@plasma9839 3 жыл бұрын
“Excuse me”
@bigshannonsims
@bigshannonsims 3 жыл бұрын
Chael obviously still hates Jones with everything in his being, He’s doing a lot of fast talking about absolutely nothing.
@abderrahimabderrahim6659
@abderrahimabderrahim6659 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I smiled so hard when Ariel starts laughing at Chael
@luckyo1479
@luckyo1479 3 жыл бұрын
Are we going to ignore chael is choosing Francis to win which only means that Francis has been cursed to loose 🤣
@aim6613
@aim6613 3 жыл бұрын
2:30 Ariel could smell the BS coming from West Lynn through his screen.
@Chris_mueller
@Chris_mueller 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣👍🏽
@austizz1e
@austizz1e 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel has come a long way since his early Rampage interviews. He's an alpha now. He speaks his mind no matter what.
@AngelGabrielB
@AngelGabrielB 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not turning it off at the minute mark.
@SunnySideUp360
@SunnySideUp360 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel is on point with this
@jw4491
@jw4491 3 жыл бұрын
no you are simply wrong. Chael won
@eighty6ix687
@eighty6ix687 3 жыл бұрын
@@jw4491 undefeated and undisputed
@irshadghori8574
@irshadghori8574 3 жыл бұрын
i agree
@Keepscooterr
@Keepscooterr 3 жыл бұрын
Except when he said that it would do 2 million paper views lol
@irshadghori8574
@irshadghori8574 3 жыл бұрын
@@Keepscooterr LMAOO yeah but it should do big numbers I’m guessing, Francis is becoming a huge star in the heavyweight division and Jon has been in the game for very long so it will attract a large audience
@michaelparkin5942
@michaelparkin5942 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel is spot on this time while Chael is really looking like a fool saying Lewis is the fight....
@thecanadian9105
@thecanadian9105 3 жыл бұрын
YOUR GUY JONES DOESNT WANT THE FIGHT.
@Relatablenightmare
@Relatablenightmare 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecanadian9105 jesus bro give it a rest
@millybadison8166
@millybadison8166 3 жыл бұрын
Lewis is the fight for MMA, Jones if the fight for the fans.
@brandulak
@brandulak 3 жыл бұрын
@@millybadison8166 Too bad Jon doesn't want to give fans what they want. When Conor gets 3mil to show, asking for 50mil is ridiculous. He's essentially sabotaging the fight.
@demongawl
@demongawl 3 жыл бұрын
No he’s not, Jon has never even cracked 1 mil ppv buys and Ariel is saying he’ll do 2 Mil. That’s crazy.
@mmdo8789
@mmdo8789 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 These 2 getting angry is so funny haha
@srt8up4shot
@srt8up4shot 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh Ariel’s face reaction @ 2:30 is hilarious 😂
@amaziahyaohsharal9840
@amaziahyaohsharal9840 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, he could smell the bull sh** coming out of Chael Sonnen’s mouth
@MuhammadNaveed-jl6dv
@MuhammadNaveed-jl6dv 3 жыл бұрын
Chael is always wrong, whether picking fights or any arguments. He has a job and does not want to ruffle feathers with ufc.
@thecanadian9105
@thecanadian9105 3 жыл бұрын
He works for ESPN, Not UFC. Different things buddy. Why do you guys want to FORCE a dude to fight a monster. He already denied the fight.
@lightinferno4490
@lightinferno4490 3 жыл бұрын
Facts. Well said.
@jordandsouza6615
@jordandsouza6615 3 жыл бұрын
Chael is wrong about a lot of thing, this is another one of them 🤣
@Chris_mueller
@Chris_mueller 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@battmanfishing2443
@battmanfishing2443 3 жыл бұрын
"should be about the competition, money should not matter" stupidest comment i have ever heard
@jizzlewop552
@jizzlewop552 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan-mp3ju you are delusional ciryl gane through like 5 attacks per round against rozenstruik Jon would murder him. Jan is a different story even though Jon would murder him too
@AntJonez218
@AntJonez218 3 жыл бұрын
Best one by far. Ugh why so many snippets. Jus put the whole thing out on KZbin.
@iamsharroz1111
@iamsharroz1111 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, respect to Helwani for being such a dedicated follower of MMA. It's nice to see such an intelligent and long time journalist debate with an mma legend and veteran The one and only Chael P. Sonnen a man who changed the sport and paved the way for so many and continues to be a great source of insight into the sports of mma and wrestling. Of course these both men make mistakes as we all do as human beings. We also should refrain from attacking individuals on their opinions because at the end of the day it's just a thought and you can choose to ignore it and be happy rather than going out of your way to attack it. I disagree with Helwani and Sonnen from time to time but that's life and that doesn't make Ariel Helwani or Chael Sonnen bad people who are deserving of hate.
@OneThird1533
@OneThird1533 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel's kids definitely giggle when he yells at them
@fernandoarroyo8733
@fernandoarroyo8733 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣😅😆😂😂🤣😅
@drcknight24plays
@drcknight24plays 3 жыл бұрын
That's probably true.... LMAO
@ATOMICWANTON
@ATOMICWANTON 3 жыл бұрын
6:17 Ariel admiring his work triggering Chael
@AcousticHunter
@AcousticHunter 3 жыл бұрын
😅😅
@tech1238
@tech1238 3 жыл бұрын
He’s a troll veteran 😂
@abderrahimabderrahim6659
@abderrahimabderrahim6659 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha!!!!
@Somebodyssomebody
@Somebodyssomebody 3 жыл бұрын
That echo at the end killed me 😂
@abelbahta3546
@abelbahta3546 3 жыл бұрын
Chael “excuse me” sonnen 😂😂😂😂
@rareshit
@rareshit 3 жыл бұрын
Chael is so biased when he talks about Jones, like we get it you lost within like 1 Round to Jones... I'd be bitter too
@joys8634
@joys8634 3 жыл бұрын
he doesn't like tito bro. he doesn't hate jones like that though. he knows jones isn't taking the fight because he's demanding 50 mill lmao
@JaeLee83
@JaeLee83 3 жыл бұрын
@@joys8634 He definitely hates Jones like that!
@joys8634
@joys8634 3 жыл бұрын
@@JaeLee83 you're right lmao. I was trolling
@clockworkman8210
@clockworkman8210 3 жыл бұрын
except he's right about this one
@esmeeisen9919
@esmeeisen9919 3 жыл бұрын
Nah. He doesn’t hate silva and talks very respectful towards him. I think his hate is more from them going back and forth online, and the steroid talk.
@alrodriguezjr.6327
@alrodriguezjr.6327 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like Chael is hating on Jones since he couldn’t beat him....There is no fight bigger than a Jones fight and Ariel definitely won that debate...
@miloandot
@miloandot 3 жыл бұрын
Chael lost to many people. Has nothing to do with it. He put Anderson and Fedor in his top 5 fighters of all time list. 2 guys he's lost to. He use to trash both of them for years and years. Chael has a WWE persona. He likes to stir the pot.
@anthonybenyamin9255
@anthonybenyamin9255 3 жыл бұрын
it goes way beyond just the fact he couldn't beat him. Lest we forget that interview Jones refused to answer to Chael
@jakoblivingston4165
@jakoblivingston4165 3 жыл бұрын
Nah Connor will always be the biggest fight
@alrodriguezjr.6327
@alrodriguezjr.6327 3 жыл бұрын
@Damion C yes I get it, he hasn’t sold a million buys but making history to fight Francis will be a mega fight....No one wants to see him fight Derrick Lewis after having a boring 1st fight....If boxing can pay their best fighters like Mayweather and Canelo over $100 million then there is no excuse why UFC can give their fighters more especially Jon Jones who is arguably considered the goat of MMA....Please stop defending Dana White and pay this man!
@Unknown-individual
@Unknown-individual 2 жыл бұрын
Chael sonnen: excuse me. I guess vicky Guerrero started writing chael's promos now😂😂
@AndreyFadeev-rw3jx
@AndreyFadeev-rw3jx 3 жыл бұрын
Since we can't have this fight, at least we can get fights about it.
@Sibbiez
@Sibbiez 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Ariel is so right it's not even fit, Chael is just sticking to his character.
@joys8634
@joys8634 3 жыл бұрын
@TheBitchHunter he lost so many times though lmao
@edwardliddy
@edwardliddy 3 жыл бұрын
but i thought jon vacated LHW so he didn't have to rematch Reyes...
@hhhfggg2969
@hhhfggg2969 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardliddy tbh I think Reyes beat him in the first fight, but I’ll say this jones has the most defenses why would he stay there he wiped out 3 generations of fighters, then commits to heavyweight just to get told he’s pricing himself out? It’s a joke ufc are the biggest scam business in terms of money, they can rival boxing on Ppv and get away with paying 20 percent of what they pay, jones isn’t scared and he would beat ngannou should they fight, be we all know the fight won’t happen bc jon won’t defend the belt and the allure of Francis in the long term is more valuable to the ufc than having Jon ruin their star for one big ppv and then probably retire or vacate for 205 again.
@bizzyboomin9277
@bizzyboomin9277 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardliddy the Reyes that did the chicken dance then got ko’d nah Reyes on a 2 fight losing streak and he’s about to lose to jiri too it’s getting dark for him
@dominickschrute3084
@dominickschrute3084 3 жыл бұрын
Chael is making no sense here. Jon Jones vs Francis would do double the boys than Francis vs Lewis. You can look at Jones ppv sales and easily predict 900k-1 million PPV buys. Then Chael dismisses it, says that's like playing checkers instead of chess, because that's a one night bump in sales. Also incorrect. If Francis goes out and ko's Jon Jones, he's a star. He gains tremendous name recognition, and his future PPV's sell better. Regardless of the outcome, it would generate tremendous interest in the HW division if you throw Jones in the mix. Chael is shilling for the UFC and Dana here, like usual.
@luiz9672
@luiz9672 3 жыл бұрын
Chael making Ariel very likable rn
@Tygor3533
@Tygor3533 3 жыл бұрын
“My mouth moves your mouth closes....let’s remember how this works partner” 🤣
@Twentywulf
@Twentywulf 3 жыл бұрын
When Ariel goes high pitch, he sounds like a Grandma from the Disney Channel
@RichardCookerly
@RichardCookerly 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll have to agree with Ariel on this one. We need that Jones/Ngannou fight
@heisenberg550
@heisenberg550 3 жыл бұрын
But Jones the one backing off?
@Wazes
@Wazes 3 жыл бұрын
@@heisenberg550 not because of the fight but because of the money! It is a super fight where Jons is at his up most risk of his undefeated record. I ain’t no fan of Jon’s but I don’t blame him for wanting more money
@RichardCookerly
@RichardCookerly 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wazes Exactly
@Magani79
@Magani79 3 жыл бұрын
the UFC doesn't "need" this fight. Jones can't genuinely believe the UFC will surrender to paying him more than 10M...
@nyquilnu2221
@nyquilnu2221 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wazes Lol they offered him more to show than Conor and he still turned it own and threatens to leave the UFC. Sounds like the UFC are willing to give him the fight but he doesn't want to negotiate in good faith. I think he was shocked at how easily Francis handled Stipe. I think the fight gets made because he's committed to HW but no way is he getting the money he thinks he should.
@ajcampos2309
@ajcampos2309 3 жыл бұрын
Chael sounds like the white Stephen A Smith with whole “EXCUSE ME” thing
@52baldingindianjanitor72
@52baldingindianjanitor72 3 жыл бұрын
Chael went FULL company man on this one Jesus Christ
@themarkl0813
@themarkl0813 3 жыл бұрын
Dana paying him under the table lol
@kman8
@kman8 3 жыл бұрын
Chael ready to fight out here 😂 Ariel laughing at the end.. boss💯
@SeekingTheTruth1
@SeekingTheTruth1 3 жыл бұрын
“This should come down to competition and NOT money...” Chael is legit crazy lol
@woblywoo2
@woblywoo2 3 жыл бұрын
Good catch, he always boasts how it's about the money 😂
@matthewh6719
@matthewh6719 3 жыл бұрын
He's not crazy he's a company man
@cicatrace
@cicatrace 3 жыл бұрын
Right, this is prize fighting... and pretty sure I remember him saying exactly this.
@ryanhernandez5884
@ryanhernandez5884 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewh6719 I don’t think any of us would go in w Francis infront of millions of people for free
@hydrateyourpup8144
@hydrateyourpup8144 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhernandez5884 facts 10 mill aint free but its clearly not enough Connor would get way more no questions asked why can the goat of the ufc
@joshsowiecki2466
@joshsowiecki2466 3 жыл бұрын
Chael can't be fair on picks like this, he's too emotional. At least DC hates Jones but can tell the truth.
@jesuskofi1664
@jesuskofi1664 3 жыл бұрын
why does chael hate jon so much?
@thesenate8079
@thesenate8079 3 жыл бұрын
3:48 "my mouth moves your mouth goes closed, okay partner remember how this works" - Chael Sonnen 😂😂
@SMcustomebikes
@SMcustomebikes 3 жыл бұрын
He's gonna get owned after when Ariel reminds him how it works when it comes to pay. He's gonna end up uploading every 30 seconds on his KZbin instead of every 30 minutes
@huncho_los
@huncho_los 3 жыл бұрын
Mamaloooooo!
@tcsprynce5748
@tcsprynce5748 3 жыл бұрын
“Hold on I’m talking brother” 😂
@TerranceLeverette
@TerranceLeverette 3 жыл бұрын
He stole that from miz
@ronniemontes6090
@ronniemontes6090 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Ariel sounds funny towards the end
@DonLeStudio
@DonLeStudio 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE HOW HONEST ARIEL IS... Chael is jealous of this superfight.
@thecanadian9105
@thecanadian9105 3 жыл бұрын
Jones denied the contract? You are trying to force a guy to die by Ngannou fists
@skodalaskoda8754
@skodalaskoda8754 3 жыл бұрын
wow
@JonathanGonzalez-jz4td
@JonathanGonzalez-jz4td 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecanadian9105 .... where did you get this information from ?
@rpraj3135
@rpraj3135 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecanadian9105 Whattt !!! According to Jon only no contract has been prepared. He said the talk with Hunter didn't even went further after pay negotiation went off.
@heisenberg550
@heisenberg550 3 жыл бұрын
lol 8-10 million is too low? just say you’re scared and back off lmao
@TreyParker318
@TreyParker318 3 жыл бұрын
Chael "I only tell you this because..." "I'm simply bringing you this because...I share this with you this because..." Sonnen
@amsterdam7956
@amsterdam7956 3 жыл бұрын
One trick pony
@geraldryan8210
@geraldryan8210 3 жыл бұрын
He wants over 10million to get knocked out lol ...I agree Lewis should get a shot first , Jones should have to fight in heavy weight for A period to earn a shot at the heavyweight title fight like all the other contenders in the division , not get a title fight just cause he's 205lbs champ ! And certainly wouldn't be fare to Lewis didn't get a fight before Jones ! Seems it's all about money money money for Jon " steroid " Jones
@MellowOutBeatz
@MellowOutBeatz 3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@MrFenri
@MrFenri 3 жыл бұрын
@@geraldryan8210 that’s dumb. He is the most decorated champ in the history of the UFC. You think the UFC really cares about his past digressions? Get outa here man.
@geraldryan8210
@geraldryan8210 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I don't care what you think chum! Yes he's the most decorated 205lbs but not at heavy weight lol so just cause he has dominated the 205 class , he should still have to fight 1or 2 ...actually 2 heavy weight fights till a shot at the heavyweight belt... Lewis deserves a title shot first ... And wow your quite the Steroid Jones fan lol ya in love with the guy? LoL 🤣
@XXxCHRISxXX
@XXxCHRISxXX 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta go with Ariel on this one.
@onlyforhimajin
@onlyforhimajin 2 күн бұрын
I still rewatch this once in a while. Pure comedy gold 😂
@alexriahi9715
@alexriahi9715 3 жыл бұрын
Jon Jones been living rent free in Chael head since 2013 😂
@GranTurismoRaceReplays
@GranTurismoRaceReplays 3 жыл бұрын
God Chael is an embarrassing individual. Glad Ariel called him out. Chael is simply a mouthpiece for Dana white. Someone shut him up.
@lightinferno4490
@lightinferno4490 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Bretzille
@Bretzille 3 жыл бұрын
Chael "I only share with you" Sonnen
@adamusgrove9162
@adamusgrove9162 3 жыл бұрын
‘My mouth moves your mouth goes closed’ ☠️☠️
@heyaw100
@heyaw100 3 жыл бұрын
Have you lost your mind 😂 Arial knows how to trigger the bad guy
@waheedD12
@waheedD12 3 жыл бұрын
dana makes more than what jon is asking for in just live gate attendance... just pay the guy
@brandongarvick7875
@brandongarvick7875 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen these 2 go at each other like this, they’re like a married couple
@leonjones2191
@leonjones2191 3 жыл бұрын
“My mouth moves your mouth goes closed okay partner? Let’s remember how this works” 😂😂😂
@population-_-420
@population-_-420 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh I'll pay $70 for francis vs jones fight alone 💰
@808Tornado
@808Tornado 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@HuanNguyen-sq3gr
@HuanNguyen-sq3gr 3 жыл бұрын
You want to pay 70$ to watch a fight that will last less than 45s?
@srt8up4shot
@srt8up4shot 3 жыл бұрын
@@HuanNguyen-sq3gr I’ll pay $80
@joshj2307
@joshj2307 3 жыл бұрын
@@HuanNguyen-sq3gr what do u mean it’ll last 45 seconds
@Timma-ss8rx
@Timma-ss8rx 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshj2307 I'm a jones nut rider but after francis performance I'm scared for Jon lmao
@FelixGalvanArt
@FelixGalvanArt 3 жыл бұрын
The more Chael talks the more I start siding with Helwani. Chael is fried lol
@kintarooe8688
@kintarooe8688 3 жыл бұрын
cte. even on his channel he can't say a single coherent sentence lol.
@clipped6963
@clipped6963 3 жыл бұрын
Why is Chael just screaming from the start 🤣 🤣 🤣
@lukecurley4755
@lukecurley4755 3 жыл бұрын
Chael talking nonsense the mans deluded. Big up Ariel for calling him out 👏🏼
@dakotamichelon7950
@dakotamichelon7950 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel was so right when he said that this should have been pre-negotiated.. what a blunder on the UFC’s part 😩
@amsterdam7956
@amsterdam7956 3 жыл бұрын
For real. The way Dana handles the UFC is so weird. Like which other owner of another sports organisation has to portray himself in such a weird way constantly? Maybe it's because I'm from Europe, and we're not used to people like that being in power. Imagine "Yeah I'll just pay you 20% of revenue compared to 50% of all big sports in the world. But it's my company, so yeah." - Dana probably.
@tootypootyaimandshooty6510
@tootypootyaimandshooty6510 3 жыл бұрын
@@amsterdam7956 The reason why the other combat sport and other athletes get paid more of the revenue is because there is a greater competition between different organizations to get said player. The issue with the UFC is that it is a monopoly in mma. Dana owns these fighters.
@Robert-xn3dc
@Robert-xn3dc 3 жыл бұрын
Chael saying it should never be about the money is kinda strange when everything about him is about keeping his job and staying on Dana's good boy list
@donsaboter2543
@donsaboter2543 3 жыл бұрын
So true. I like his show but if dont know him he can blind you. Be hates some fighters and will do everthing to diss them
@Peppersfirst
@Peppersfirst 3 жыл бұрын
Chael didn't say a peep about the Hans Molenkamp drama. And Chael literally makes a video about everything that happens in MMA. He'll do what he has to do for the money. And he's an absolute bullshitter.
@aaronsmith591
@aaronsmith591 3 жыл бұрын
Staying on your boss' good side and keeping your job....... how silly of him
@talkshitgethit4235
@talkshitgethit4235 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronsmith591 shut up he’s a shill
@khalidalnahdi1526
@khalidalnahdi1526 3 жыл бұрын
Aaron Smith a prizefighter asking for a little piece of what he will generate... how silly of him.
@RICHTVLIVE
@RICHTVLIVE 3 жыл бұрын
Great commentary 👌
@rickvinqvist3250
@rickvinqvist3250 3 жыл бұрын
I love Chael. Lmao. "My mouth moves, yours mouth closes. Let's not forget how this works" lol
@Maartun
@Maartun 3 жыл бұрын
3:29 the way his voice changes 😂
@rihhard1072
@rihhard1072 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel went full Mickey Mouse
@skodalaskoda8754
@skodalaskoda8754 3 жыл бұрын
thats the legendary jewish high testosterone
@yvette3131
@yvette3131 3 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone want Jon to fight for free I’m confused
@hermonymusofsparta
@hermonymusofsparta 3 жыл бұрын
No one wants him to fight for free. People just recognize that he's not worth what he's asking for. He wants significantly more money than Conor McGregor and he's not even close to being as draw as Conor McGregor. This is a business. Jon Jones is not a huge draw.
@benlewis5312
@benlewis5312 3 жыл бұрын
​@@hermonymusofsparta Umm, no, he doesn't want more than Conor. Jones wants over $10M and usually makes $5M after total compensation on his fights. The $50M was obviously a joke. Conor made around $50M for the fight against Khabib and $20-25M for fighting Poirier after total compensation. Over $10M for a fight that will easily sell a million PPV's and thus will generate over $100M in total revenue after PPV sales, live gate, merchandising, and other licensing agreements is completely reasonable. And the only reason Jones isn't a huge draw is because everyone knows he will win his fights. He's the underdog against Ngannou so that obviously isn't the case here
@jc3cash
@jc3cash 3 жыл бұрын
@@benlewis5312 ok but what was Conor's base salary vs Jon's base salary? Did Conor make all that extra money mostly from a cut of the ppv sales? If so, Jon is getting paid so much less because he simply is not as big of a draw as Conor McGregor is, not selling as many ppvs/tickets as Conor and therefore is not making as much money at the end of the day for that reason
@isaaccameron7852
@isaaccameron7852 3 жыл бұрын
@@hermonymusofsparta I agree about the business point, and that Jon has not been a huge draw in the past few years (#8 in UFC) but this time is different. This is the first time in years people aren't sure how this fight will go for Jon, and that's a big deal. Conor has said he's made north of 30 mil in a UFC fight, and everyone I know who likes MMA will watch Francis and Jones. For once, I'm with Ariel here.
@beboymadz5086
@beboymadz5086 3 жыл бұрын
Chael has a history of eating his words in the end....
@Gods_Healer
@Gods_Healer 3 жыл бұрын
Also ate a ton of Bones elbows💯
@danieldunscombe5238
@danieldunscombe5238 3 жыл бұрын
Chael always picks the loser anyway.
@AG23543
@AG23543 3 жыл бұрын
“I SHARE THAT WITH YOU TO SAY”
@tortillero3138
@tortillero3138 3 жыл бұрын
Chael still sour... Sayin Derrick Lewis vs Francis has just as much interest as Jon Jones vs Francis? LOL 😂
@miloandot
@miloandot 3 жыл бұрын
Derrick has a great chance of KOing Francis. Jones does not. I have an interest in it. Jones fight can wait.
@GoldenBoy-sq6yl
@GoldenBoy-sq6yl 3 жыл бұрын
@@miloandot did u watch the first fight....
@miloandot
@miloandot 3 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenBoy-sq6yl Yeah, things happen. Just because the first fight played out that way doesn't mean the second will.
@GoldenBoy-sq6yl
@GoldenBoy-sq6yl 3 жыл бұрын
@@miloandot they both fear each others power and none of them can grapple i wonder how the fights gonna play out.....
@miloandot
@miloandot 3 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenBoy-sq6yl It will be much better than the first, IMO. We shall see in time.
@westcoast8506
@westcoast8506 3 жыл бұрын
Back when JJ called out Francis last year Francis said he wouldn’t fight JJ on his contract he would ask for more money.
@wz1thoughtadjuster330
@wz1thoughtadjuster330 3 жыл бұрын
@ 6:15 @ 6:16 chael squeaking and Ariel laughing 😆
@zowiewowie4458
@zowiewowie4458 3 жыл бұрын
this debate is fire
@usamazaidmarwat6169
@usamazaidmarwat6169 3 жыл бұрын
Chael has lost his mind... By saying jones doesn't want to fight or he is afraid.
@lightinferno4490
@lightinferno4490 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@delroy5097
@delroy5097 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel doing his best to secure the JJ exclusive interview 😂😂
@SUBZEROxACID
@SUBZEROxACID 3 жыл бұрын
Chael " hey have you forgot how this works my mouth moves yours closes" What a badass sick of Ariels opinion
@DarkPsyde721
@DarkPsyde721 3 жыл бұрын
Ariel’s facial expressions 😂😂😂
@brianviera9539
@brianviera9539 3 жыл бұрын
Chael never fails to show his bias when it comes to Jones.
@Apollo-th2xb
@Apollo-th2xb 3 жыл бұрын
Its cos he got sent to pound town where if he could literally survive a few more minutes he could've given Jones a loss cos of that split toe. Chael "defeated, disputed, not all that" Sonnen
@marcosleon215
@marcosleon215 3 жыл бұрын
Y'all don't understand the business just like jones
@weeman2873
@weeman2873 3 жыл бұрын
the whole purposes of this is to debate, both of them are given a topic and chael needs to counter that topic. it has nothing to do with what he actually thinks
@abzda1700
@abzda1700 3 жыл бұрын
just cause you fought killers doesn’t mean your entitled to anything look at Donald cerrone Rda Edson barboza tony Ferguson btw this is all in the same weight class if you look at the resume it’s literally killer after killer look at Dustin who only got a million for the Conor fight
@brianviera9539
@brianviera9539 3 жыл бұрын
@@weeman2873 except for the fact that's exactly what he thinks because he said so every chance he gets... Especially in his solo clips.... That have nothing to do with the format on his show with helwani
@112233JORDAN
@112233JORDAN 3 жыл бұрын
I love when Chael says "Excuse me!" But Jon is the fight to make.
@julianmarx2002
@julianmarx2002 3 жыл бұрын
Jones fights Ngannou. Stipe fights Lewis to determine who gets their rematch
@jokersmith9096
@jokersmith9096 3 жыл бұрын
@@julianmarx2002 I wish, you should be matchmaker lol
@yourilamoureux
@yourilamoureux 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode.
@28nickm
@28nickm 3 жыл бұрын
i like how they opened up with ariel's stats
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