Arikara: The (False?) Spirit of Vengeance

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@vitormattos5368 4 ай бұрын

My understanding was that anyone with a lot of vengeance in their heart could summon (or manifest subconsciously) Arikara. With that in mind, my theory is that Makaba Flathoof summoned it in vengeance for the razing of Camp Aparaje, and the target is Magatha herself, and that's why she lies about the real target and wants to stop it.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Bringing in Makaba to the story is interesting!! I hadn't thought of him :D

@Ivanus59 4 ай бұрын

Magatha is one of those characters that is so obviously evil to us players but for some reason no one else in the Horde sees it lol.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Yeah XD

@DudeWheresMyJo-Car 4 ай бұрын

As a mostly Alliance player I'd never seen these quests before. What a cool quest to stash away in the Thousand Needles!

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Right? It was very fun to discover :D

@suomar-art 4 ай бұрын

I might have said this already but I’m a huge fan of the little voiced sections you do! They add so much more character than just having an AI read them. Stellar video as always!

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! I remember you mentioning it a while back... you're one of the reasons I keep doing them! And because they're fun XD

@suomar-art 4 ай бұрын

Uh oh my bad - I guess I just really wanted to make sure you knew lol! Glad to hear, keep them coming!

@JohnGamingFuntime 4 ай бұрын

i mean,magatha is the reason why cairne was killed by garrosh in their fight. she was the one who coated gorehowl with the poison that would claim cairne's life. so her creating arikara to take him out would make a lot of sense. elune only knows how many times she tried to take him out that the player hasnt seen.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Yes! After Cata she definitely became a known villain and wasn't hiding it anymore! :o

@oscara1573 3 ай бұрын

Cairnes death was the thing i hated the most from Cata. Killing offscreen and uneventfully one of the leaders of the horde? Really? His death didnt even serve as Garrosh character development. Also Cairne: -one of the oldest and wisest warriors of the horde and kalimdor -loyal to Thrall and the horde -respected by the Tauren tribes, except for the grimtotem who were scum anyways -wasnt involved in anything shady, old gods or the legion. -charismatic ah Garrosh: -his dad was Grom Hellscream -his other dad was Thrall Nepotism was the downfall of the horde

@dylanramsey5817 4 ай бұрын

Magatha is definitely not "painted as a Bloodhoof loyalist" in Vanilla WoW. It's no secret she's still in charge of the Grimtotems we fight all over Kalimdor, constantly sparring with Cairne over the future of the tauren. That much is spelled out in the game manual itself. She's his chief rival and allowed in Thunder Bluff ("where tauren of all tribes are welcome") BECAUSE she is so respected (as seen with people like Motega Firemane showing such deference to her). Will always appreciate the mystery of quests like this one though, where there's clearly more going on, but the game doesn't spell it out. I always figured Magatha was trying to save herself from Arikara given her own shady history, but the idea she potentially engineered an appearance by "the spirit of vengeance" to strike down her political rival is intriguing. Quite literally. 🤔

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Thank You for the input! I appreciate that. :)

@jjaaamm 4 ай бұрын

I really wish they would 'retcon' the cataclysm in a sense and build a wall to undo the flood) - thousand needles had such an amazing vibe before

@saxiom4629 4 ай бұрын

Here's hoping that if they do end up doing a revamp of the world that some of the zones greatly affected by the Cataclysm are changed up! i really like your idea of somehow making a dam or wall for the zone.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

That would be so cool! I agree about the Classic vibe :)

@spriestchump1531 4 ай бұрын

These videos are so interesting. They are really giving me a completely different experience of the quests in Classic. Fantastic stuff.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

I'm so glad you're liking them! :)

@Shokisan1 4 ай бұрын

I love this channel. It is the first channel I like to watch when I am feeling sick. The presentation is chill and the info is interesting. Thank you

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

I'm so glad to hear it! :)

@nakenmil 4 ай бұрын

I know this is bit of an aside, but given where things are heading in retail wow, I hope they make some Tauren npc front and center when they finally commune with the world-spirit. I mean - they have worshipped the Earth mother all this time. It would be a shame to not utilize that angle somehow and shoehorn one of their usuals (Jaina, Sylvanas, whoever) in instead.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Agreed!! Bring back some of the sidelined characters to the forefront. :)

@maruraba1478 4 ай бұрын

me and a friend were talking about the earthmother, elune (Mu'she) and An'she, aka Azeroth, the big moon, and sun in wow lore. my friend brought up a good point. if elune and the earth mother are a thing, why is An'she not a thing? is the Sun a Naaru? great video as always. stay gold.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Solid point! The only real evidence we have is that a dark naaru was once known as the "Dark Star" so suns/stars could be powered by Light/Naaru as well? We will have to see ;)

@Halibel764 4 ай бұрын

4:12 "Moving past this conversation, Horde players eventually travel to the Dark Cloud Pinnacle, summon Arikara and slay the beast" That is definitively NOT what 11-old-me remembers. I genuinly remember abandonning the question because : I died from fall, I lost my way trop the Thousand Needles, I made my way back to the Pinnacle by slaying my own race, and I fell again. This time I found a way, and died again. At least it gave me a very strong impression.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Hey, those adventures are the best kind... sometimes only in hindsight XD

@Wayclarke 4 ай бұрын

Oh wow, I had forgotten about this quest. It's been 17 years. Brings back memories. Always loved the classic Tauren zones.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

So peaceful and isolated! :)

@Astronic 4 ай бұрын

Such a great video. Thank you Jedi.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

You are welcome! :)

@williamkarl-gustafmoller8492 4 ай бұрын

Sounds like an epic beast that'd yeild some buff food and some sweet loot in a d&d campaign.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Totally! :D

@TheNicopy 4 ай бұрын

Would have never found out about this. And ive alwats done the Alien Egg chain!

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Glad I could give you some new details about this! ;)

@grafspe807 4 ай бұрын

I always thought they would use Magatha as maybe a raid boss or at least a dungeon boss . I know in Cata she got some powerful item from the Twilight Hammer guys but im pretty sure she loses that in the Shammy campaign in Legion and her current location is unknown. I would be nice to see her in a future deal where she could be the final boss in a story line involving the Tauren and perhaps leading to a new dungeon in the old world

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Great thoughts! She is definitely an underused character in many regards...

@Killernod 4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for these videos :) Really enjoy the lore of the game and you always find stories and theories that i'm not familiar with. Can't wait for the next one! Thanks again

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

You are very welcome :)

@thenerdbeast7375 4 ай бұрын

We've known the Earth Mother has been Azeroth for a few expansions now.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

That is one interpretation of it... I wonder if this is a retcon or if all the Classic references can still be explained using the world-soul in its place?

@Dagonavleski 4 ай бұрын

Nice lore! I did this quest during hardcore not so long ago! x)

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Nice! :D

@darkuro6 4 ай бұрын

Great video. I've always wondered what was going on behind the scenes while doing the Arikara chain, Magatha always felt like a villain.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)

@General12th 4 ай бұрын

Hi Jedi! I wish there was more lore for the Grimtotem beyond just "we're bad and untrustworthy and violent for the sake of internal strife". The orcish Shadow Council has good lore for being bad. The human Defias Brotherhood has good lore for being bad. The Grimtotem? Nah.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

I agree! With all the conflict with the centaur there wasn't much of a reason for tauren to abandon an alliance that would help protect their land... it seems they are just being contrarians XD

@lorewalkercho7291 4 ай бұрын

magatha has to be the most interesting under used character, appropriate considering shes a tauren, the most under used race

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

I agree! They definitely could bring her back in the future for something big related to the Tauren...

@Garouwerks 4 ай бұрын

I would love to know about more quests that deal with Tauren and The Earth Mother, please. This is fascinating. And exciting! I enjoy your videos like this and the one about the Red Ridge rocks. They just fill in small details that fill out this world. So thank you!

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

I'll have to investigate! I'm glad you're enjoying them :)

@Garouwerks 4 ай бұрын

@@Jediwarlock Thank you so much! Also, Pyromancer (KZbinr) went over this video of yours. I know I suggested he do so, and I think others did as well! This one was terrific! And covered something that was not known 1) because they removed it, and 2) It was simply forgotten and 3) not essential to know till NOW, and the Ahnshay (sp?) and Musha 'children's' tale. So thank you!

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

@@Garouwerks Wait, really? That's awesome!! I'm honored :D

@Garouwerks 4 ай бұрын

@@Jediwarlock yes. And he really enjoyed it. I would link it, but KZbin would only delete it. History and Lore of Classic WoW is really hard to find now, due to Cata, and the change in the game. You really gathered up some fantastic Lore and information. You always do. I'm glad he took a look see at your video. I was happy to mention it. :) Looking forward to rock talk or Lore.

@AllThingsNerdChannel 4 ай бұрын

New Warlock video! Hype :)

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

@NotARussianDisinfoBot 4 ай бұрын

Very cool. I had never even heard of this quest.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

I hadn't either until I tried Horde just a few years ago ;)

@h84goD 4 ай бұрын

really enjoy your content... much better than playing myself and getting addicted again and end up raiding 3 days a week in a progress guild + raiding with a twink 😣 its so awesome how every faction provides its own unique way to experience the world of warcraft!

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Very true! So many unique experiences :)

@JeezcakesHD 4 ай бұрын

Another great video.

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Thanks! :)

@KiryuuYoshiya 4 ай бұрын

honestly i always figured arikara was going after magatha for the crimes of the grimtotem, or that it was manifested by her to justify taking cairne out. she schemes and lies and it was no secret shed do away with cairne if she could even before she actually did in cataclysm 🤔

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Yeah! She really showed her true colors during Cata :o

@GloriousZote Ай бұрын

Also on part of the Forsaken, Magatha is the reason they are in the Horde at all.

@Jediwarlock 29 күн бұрын

Yeah! She was one of the big supporters of them joining the Horde :)

@ВолодимирМайко-п7р 4 ай бұрын

very cool!

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

Thanks! :)

@GloriousZote Ай бұрын

Would be real cool if Magatha was right, and Cairne really did to something heinous, and we never learned about it.

@Jediwarlock 29 күн бұрын

YES! That would actually be crazy... maybe some sort of dark ritual to protect the tauren from the centaur that could have consequences later? O_O

@tadeasprikryl2407 4 ай бұрын

ohh shiiit this is spicyyy

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

@lasicakdandous2377 4 ай бұрын

i think it could be a serpent of hakkar maybe one of the sand trolls from tanaris corrupted one of the wind serpents and the wind serpent later layed an egg which then was mistook for Arikara taurens sometimes mistake things for being something else like when they thought the earthmother was under desolace only to wake up princes theradras why i think it could be hakkar's: its RED the color of blood and same as the color of the hakkari wind serpents there are trolls in tanaris that use blood magic like the blooddrinkers and Hakkar is the blood god and is incredibley agressive and viscious so was arikara as soon as it was born also there's literally a follower of Hakkar in the dock in tanaris that is trying to summon him and tricking us in doing so also to revive hakkar we need 3 wind serpent souls so another connection to wind serpents

@Jediwarlock 4 ай бұрын

YES! Great details to point out... wind serpents are definitely linked to Hakkar (probably most of them in a generational sense, not direct followers) and it would make sense for that troll Yeh'kinya to perhaps use another one in some sort of scheme ;) I like it!