I won't kill you, but I'm not going to save you. Dark knight quote right there for choice b
@mando83983 жыл бұрын
He undirectly killed him. Even more than in Dark Knight Begins.
@MrWongWey2 жыл бұрын
@@mando8398 By the case then he “indirectly killed” dozens of people in the comics and games.
@j2c09 Жыл бұрын
Kind of wished he had TDK costume on with choice B. Haha! Still, this is the route I took cause of this very quote.
@atheoang3l0_old447 жыл бұрын
I like how you chose to use Nolan Batman for the first ending, and Batfleck for the second.
@Nite-Mite7 жыл бұрын
I think it would've made more sense for the Bale Batman to be used in the second ending, it fits more with the "won't kill you but won't save you" ending of Batman Begins. But yeah, I get it, Bale's Batman had the no killing rule (which he broke a few times though), while Batfleck was a killing machine.
@Jose-se9pu7 жыл бұрын
In Batman's eyes, he was killing him, hence Ra's actually being proud...although I get you point, he let him to died in choice B, just like Baleman in Begins.
@Cosmicmorales3 жыл бұрын
@@Nite-Mite true.
@mmbzitha2 жыл бұрын
@@Nite-Mite one is actually batman while the other isn't
@KisaraSafiya7 жыл бұрын
I prefer the second ending, and the message it has. Batman technically didn't kill anyone. If anything he made the humane decision. Letting someone who doesn't want to live die of their own accord isn't a "choice," it should be a right. We have a "do not resuscitate" option here for a reason. I think Batman would do it. Ra's asked for help, is clearly in pain, said it himself in Arkham City he was afraid of what the Lazarus Pit did to him despite being too addicted to quit, and hell even his own death was suicide. If anything this is like Bats pulling the plug which doesn't count as murder in real life.
@MedicMuffin6 жыл бұрын
Pulling the plug is still assisted suicide. Batmans rule isn't to not murder, it's to never kill. He even says it when Alfred tries to make an argument for killing him when you re enter the hospital. Pulling the plug is indirectly killing someone. You can argue that it's more "letting them die" than killing them, but the fact remains that his actions are directly responsible for Ra's losing his life. Was it humane and good for Gotham? Yeah, sure. But it's bad for Batman and his morality.
@SciAntGaming6 жыл бұрын
It's humane for Ra's.
@Aivottaja5 жыл бұрын
@@MedicMuffin Letting Ra's die was not killing and it prevent more death and suffering. It was the only rational choice Batman could make, which makes me think the alternate ending is unnecessary. It's just hammering in the notion that Batman is almost an egomaniac with his no killing rule.
@TimaeusEXE4 жыл бұрын
@@MedicMuffin actually it's not assisted suicide. Many people have been painfully kept alive because family or significant others wouldn't let them die in peace and they would die painfully. Pulling the plug is never assisted suicide you're letting the inevitable take its course. Its not healthy for someone to be artificially forced to stay alive when their body clearly doesn't want to continue.
@booki70574 жыл бұрын
@@MedicMuffin The way I see it, Either way, Batman should've known someone would die. It's just that he can choose wether it's only Ra's, Or many innocents for Ra's to slaughter.
@thebatman683 жыл бұрын
Choice B is the right one You didn't kill him. You just destroyed his immortality. Such a tricky choice.
@bplusstudios90318 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of finality with the villains in this DLC. I like it. :)
@slcmof8 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@willlucas26308 жыл бұрын
Choice B is better because Gotham will be safe from the league forever while in choice A Ra's made no promise to keep away from Gotham
@slcmof8 жыл бұрын
Batman doesn't kill tho :/
@willlucas26308 жыл бұрын
Slcmof yeah true but can't wait for Batman Tell Tale when they give us decisions like this one
@jeremymanning28947 жыл бұрын
slcmof what about the killing joke comic?
@ArtofLunatik7 жыл бұрын
I went with that choice immediately, Ra's been alive long enough.
@Jose-se9pu7 жыл бұрын
And Ra's actually wanted to die at this point...
@Jose-se9pu7 жыл бұрын
Baleman doesnt "kill" him Batffleck does "kill" him I see what you did there. Anyway, I think choice B is the best, Batman didnt kill him, he just let him FINALLY die...and Ra's actually being proud of Batman gave me the feels.
@CaptainBlueBall2 жыл бұрын
Ra’s was only proud because he felt as if Batman finally gave in and killed him. Maybe you’ll see this 4 years later Jose 😂
@Carlos_Jzx7 жыл бұрын
I love how the game stick's to the Bats moral ground of the choice of not killing in regards of points but the consequences are other wise. Damn you Rocksteady in making such a masterpiece in this Batman game.😳
@JohnSmith-ws7fq4 жыл бұрын
I let him live just to see that smirk on his face before he vanishes. Hey, I've got Joker's blood in my veins, sue me.
@halo3fan784 жыл бұрын
*sues*
@AsifShaikh-fw9ru2 жыл бұрын
I was feeling bad for letting him live, gosh your comment makes me feel better
@Aivottaja5 жыл бұрын
I don't think there should have been different outcomes to this at all. Letting Ra's die is not killing. It's not even the loophole of "I won't kill you, but I won't save you either" because Ra's has lived on borrowed time for centuries.
@FernandoGarcia-rl6gj3 жыл бұрын
I agree completely bro
@VerendumGames2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Batman respects natural death and Ra's has been cheating it for lifetimes--the idea that preventing a murderer from living forever is "killing" doesn't make sense at all, Bats
@xanosghoul3 жыл бұрын
Ra's having a moment of terminal lucidity when you bring him into your care and realizing his crusade has hurt more then helped, that was genuinely heartbreaking and beautiful. Even discounting the parallels that has to Batman at the end of Arkham Knight this scene was beautiful.
@xanosghoul3 жыл бұрын
If not reviving Ra's Al Ghul is indirect killing then the second choice of reviving him and allowing him to kill Talia's sister is certainly indirect killing. Batman reviving him in that case directly leads to him murdering Nyssa.
@TheLatiosnlatias027 жыл бұрын
"I never kill" Really? You indirectly killed them. Batman sure is a fool for saving a villain. That's why I'm for Option B since Nyssa
@scarlightemperor34104 жыл бұрын
This shows what kind of Batman you wanted to be And Its such a difficult choice
@alexsilva28 Жыл бұрын
Not really. He was already dying so you aren't killing him and at the same time you are preventing a war
@harry_fox4 жыл бұрын
- I told you. I’m no killer - *And you think that means there’s no blood on your hands?!*
@slcmof8 жыл бұрын
Here's my original vid (With commentary) about all it's good for is reading through some of the funny comments. lol :P kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaGXcqaeibSHedE
@squarishnote31738 жыл бұрын
OH I thought u already put this up?
@benz38018 жыл бұрын
nice vid but what was ur motive i mean didnt u do both choices on a stream
@slcmof8 жыл бұрын
+LEGOMASTER9811 I did, but I had commentary the first time
@justofernandez11128 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this Slcmof,I still like your commentary though,you still have that one?
@slcmof8 жыл бұрын
yep!
@oktxv8186 Жыл бұрын
More blood is spilt when you administer the cure, the second option is by far the most logical
@thisxgreatxdecay6 жыл бұрын
How is it that the plot of this short-ass DLC side-mission is 10 times more poignant than anything that happened in the main story?
@RichardDuryea4 жыл бұрын
I went with the B choice mostly because I’m a completionist and had to Have all the bad guys locked up.
@jacksonrussell32444 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too. I made Azreal try to kill Batman, just so could have him locked up, even though the better decision is to have him leave to go talk to the order though. But I need 100% inmate capacity.
@alexsilva28 Жыл бұрын
@@jacksonrussell3244 that doesn't matter towards game completion does it?
@jacksonrussell3244 Жыл бұрын
@@alexsilva28 No it doesn’t
@matthewjenkins455911 ай бұрын
If you choose to save Ra’s Al Ghul, Nyssa army tries to kill you. If you choose to destroy the machine, Nyssa army doesn’t help you fight the other assassins
@mattmark944 ай бұрын
which shows you can't trust Nyssa
@DarkKnight-qg4rt4 жыл бұрын
If you're like me and noticed the Batman Begins references. The subway crashed through the wall of the second laziurous pit, scarecrow gassing the city in the main story. You chose the "I'm not gonna kill you. But I don't have to save you." Option. 🦇😎. And I did this whole operation with the Tumbler and the Dark Knight suit.
@alexbernal78577 жыл бұрын
Its funny how you can feel like a piece of shit just because of a decision you made in a video game
@justrandomthings3197 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself.
@ExplorerDS67897 жыл бұрын
2:15- Well, good job, "hero". Now Ra's is free to kill and spread mayhem again. And to think, he WOULD have cured Joker in Arkham City, had the clown not made him drop the vial. This is what I don't like about Contemporary Batman: they have to HAMMER in the fact that he won't kill, and because of this rule, a lot of people end up dying. They just have to make Batman a mortal pacifist. I'm not saying he should be a cold, ruthless. maniac killing machine like The Punisher, but in SOME cases, exceptions can be made. Besides, if you choose the other option, Batman doesn't kill Ra's. He just "takes him off life support." If you do that for a loved one who is dying, that's not killing them. That's letting them go.
@Jose-se9pu7 жыл бұрын
"Detective...proud of you..."
@MedicMuffin6 жыл бұрын
Your argument is the argument Batman has always struggled with. And the response has pretty much always been that if he let's himself cross that line, he won't be able to stop. If he gives into the justification of one life for many, he will end up using it to kill all the major villains in his rogues gallery. Things outside of his control (like dropping the joker's cure) aren't exceptions to the rule, they're failures on his part (or at least that's how he sees them). And taking someone off life support is still indirectly killing them. Your actions in doing so directly result in someone losing their life.
@Aivottaja5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This was one of the "Lawfully Stupidest" moments of Batman. Goddamnit, just because he won't kill doesn't mean he has to choose the most moronic choices that end up in just bigger suffering and more people dying!
@unknownguy86874 жыл бұрын
Taking someone's life is not easy
@orkutfinance7 жыл бұрын
I like option A because it's true to Batman's No kill rule, however idiotic and hypocritical it has become now. But this mission is a dark reprise of the end of Arkham City where Batman tells Joker that despite everything, he would still have saved him. So I did the right thing and saved Ra's. When he says, "So Proud of You" it's like Ra's wanted you to destroy the machine. Batman seemed disturbed with what he did.
@cal5936 жыл бұрын
Because he finally got Batman to kill, which is what he wanted
@DanielHodder7 Жыл бұрын
Really don't like Option A. Batman's actions led to Nyssa's death. He went out of his way to find the cure for Ra's to save him. He doesn't need to do that. Batman isn't killing cancer patients if he doesn't cure them. If Ra's was dying because of something Batman did I could see that working. But he's been using Lazarus long before Bruce was born. He's not a killer, for not saving someone. He should be more troubled with him reviving someone and them literally killing someone 5 seconds later.
@SmWf-sm5rc3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the way batman carried ra’s just like how he carried joker in Arkham city
@emperornk600310 ай бұрын
I kinda agree with Alfred asking : "Is preventing ungodly resurrection is like taking a life?"
@introspectre77138 жыл бұрын
Nice wearing the BvS suit in the "don't save Ra's" ending.
@scourgewatcher6 жыл бұрын
I was almost expecting the joker hallucination to saddle in and drop commentary.
@Tantalus0105 жыл бұрын
I thought much the same...this would've been the perfect place for the Joker's influence to cause Batman to "slip up" a little on his moral code. I know why they didn't, though: it's so you can play this mission at any point along the main story without obvious conflicts.
@jow89015 жыл бұрын
I was so pissed after I saved Ra’s. What a shit choice. He literally just kills your ally and disappears. Batman doesn’t even seem to give a shit
@cohendavies86248 жыл бұрын
I left ra's die because he used his dead daughter to make batman give him the cure so I just left him die. He probably escapes and finds another pit. 😂
@cohendavies86248 жыл бұрын
+XenoFoxOfficial I don't care as long as I justify my view and point I can't be bothered to check over my grammar just worry about your self ok!
@cohendavies86248 жыл бұрын
+XenoFoxOfficial excuse me but I'm 12 years of age I don't need some old man telling me what to do thank you very much
@cohendavies86248 жыл бұрын
+XenoFoxOfficial well for your information im cleverer than you think! Btw how old are you because you alright taking the piss out of me so how about I take the piss out of you for once!
@cohendavies86248 жыл бұрын
+XenoFoxOfficial a couple of days ago you said my grammar was awful your face is probably more awful than my grammar
@cohendavies86248 жыл бұрын
+XenoFoxOfficial I don't give a shit but it's probably true
@progamer-bj8yq8 жыл бұрын
another great video man keep the good work up
@slcmof8 жыл бұрын
Thank you dude !
@rerolol9 ай бұрын
"don't make me regret this or you will" i can see that frightened face at 5:46
@SplendidSuperman122 Жыл бұрын
I honestly felt sorta bad for Ra’s when he weakly tried to pick up the sword and Nyssa kicked him back. He really has no strength or anything left. At that point he just wanted to finally die and let it be over.
@generalrexcommander79148 жыл бұрын
they should have made it where you can go after Talia in arkahm city or at least brought her back
@slcmof8 жыл бұрын
+Roberto Arrona Ikr.
@generalrexcommander79148 жыл бұрын
+Slcmof ya it kind of ruined it for me but they at least brought the league of assassin's back /league of shadows
@slcmof8 жыл бұрын
Agreed that would have been amazing
@MrsHateLove956 жыл бұрын
I know this's super old but I just want to share that I think there should've been a third option (triangle): Let Nyssa decide and walk away. Which causes you to fight the followers and once you clear the room Nyssa walks up to you, hand her the cure. Nyssa: *confused* Batman: "He's your father, pull the plug yourself." *leaves and screen goes black* We all know she lets him die but let them have their final moments together off screen. That would be the best ending but of course we get these options in which *both* leave a bitter, unsatisfying taste in my mouth.
@zar15366 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Ras should have died. Ras was a massive terrorist and the world would be a better place without him. Plus it seems that letting Ras die was the best choice, as the leauge leaves Gotham and Ras says he's proud of Batman.
@Aivottaja5 жыл бұрын
You could interpret it that option B was what Ra's himself actually wanted. The end to his life and forcing Batman to make that choice.
@Mike-vz6xg2 жыл бұрын
Batman choosing to not save Ra's is whats best for everyone. If Ra's is restored he will come back one day to destroy Gotham and Dick, Tim, Jason, Barbra, all of GCPD have never fought someone like him!!!!! They will never see him coming!!!!!
@TheMakuta3453 жыл бұрын
It's easy to see letting Rás die as a betrayal of Batmans morals and his "no killing" rule however Arkham Knight is the very final chapter in Batman's story in the Arkham series and we've seen Batman become jaded and even break that rule in the process in nearly every final Batman story. In the Animated series he almost willingly assassinated two innocent people to create a new Batman, in the Dark Knight Returns he loses it against Joker and gouges one of his eyes with a Batarang leading Joker to laugh that he won and break his own neck, in Killing Joke we see Batman do the neck breaking for Joker! I think it's very in line for the character that such a scene exists in Arkham Knight as well and better yet it can be seen as an evolution of Batman's morality. He finally understands that while killing somebody will still cross that blood red line he isn't required to save everyone, that allowing the bloodshed to end and allowing somebody to die in order to save hundreds is the right thing to do.
@marlo176 Жыл бұрын
Batman was never almost willing to assassinate two innocent people to create a new Batman that was the Phantasm
@TheMakuta345 Жыл бұрын
@@marlo176 fair, you're right. I must've remembered it wrong
@JabamiLain4 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone spare this thing, like Nyssa like him ? In "Arkham City" he almost killed Thalia because of his insanity. He himself admited that he used the pit so many times that he was afraid of how he would be like once he left it. If a not so pure dose makes him that insane, imagine what a complete purified dose could turn him into. You can't take that risk.
@DivineKnight_1156 ай бұрын
Personally the B ending seems more canon. A finality to the league of shadows and Batman not killing Ra’s but allowing him a peaceful death behind bars being monitored. He even expresses to Batman he’s proud of him for allowing him to finally end the fever dream of his existence.
@yodazx34504 жыл бұрын
If you think about it destroying Ra’s Lazarus machine is like crushing the cure for joker
@MFGLOOM543 жыл бұрын
B is the best option
@Batman_Beware8 жыл бұрын
This should've been the main premise of AK, maybe him, scarecrow, and deathstroke with the help of "Bruce Wayne" to take down the bat, while Tommy is ruining Bruce's reputation
@justrandomthings3197 жыл бұрын
Sounds boring.
@Jose-se9pu7 жыл бұрын
The DLC stories were a lot better than the main one
@TheAndreyEAS4 жыл бұрын
@@justrandomthings319 I think it's more intelligent, with all due respect.
@luissegovia58514 жыл бұрын
Don't forget having Azrael be in the main story and have his prophecy fullfill and have Batman not fake his death and maybe Dick Grayson takes over the mantle
@luissegovia58514 жыл бұрын
But yeah have this and especially Hush be important to the story
@bearkeepaway25198 жыл бұрын
Do u like bears more than bear
@MobySlick7 жыл бұрын
B is clearly the right option.
@Batman_Beware8 жыл бұрын
The way Ras talks in this dlc makes you almost have to agree with nyssa, even though she called Talia and Bruce fools
@Aivottaja5 жыл бұрын
Nyssa was completely right.
@alexbrantley8934 Жыл бұрын
Nyssa never told a lie bro everything she said was facts
@numby17 ай бұрын
In my play through I chose to save Ra’s and now I feel like I chose the bad ending
@alexbrantley8934 Жыл бұрын
In All technicality all we really do is prevent his resurrection if you choose b that’s not killing him he’s going to die of the injuries he sustains in Arkham city where he fell from wonder tower B was the only correct choice
@raoufswedek8 жыл бұрын
I like your commentary shouldn't bother with the comments man
@slcmof8 жыл бұрын
Haha well I see them and they get a little annoying :P
@yum86662 ай бұрын
Less people die if you dont give him the cure. Glad I chose right lmao
@KidFlash873 жыл бұрын
6:13 love the Dark Knight music
@RadinV14 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone pick the first ending?
@zuhaibsiddiqui92158 жыл бұрын
Oh thought you uploaded this by accident
@gotham_michael8 жыл бұрын
I am back slcmof here for almost every vid lol
@slcmof8 жыл бұрын
+Gotham Michael Haha thanks so much man! Means a lot
@gotham_michael8 жыл бұрын
+Slcmof np
@teamkillerjoker15658 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you come back after a few days, irl, will he be dead
@enigmaticpsychocw5 ай бұрын
While I agree that Batfleck is a perfect choice to let Ra’s die. This guy clearly didn’t watch Batman Begins. Bale wouldn’t kill Ra’s but he doesn’t have to save him either.
@waifung336710 ай бұрын
To be fair, after crashing into thousands of criminals with the bat mobile with wall breaking speed, I am pretty sure Batman's no kill rule was long broken before Ra.... heck even punching and kicking them into air could have kill some of them too.
@h.nazarli9 ай бұрын
Batman wasn't killing anyone with his car. If you're talking about thugs on the street, when he hit them, he was driving them away by giving them electroshocks.
@tapiaartalejojuanosvaldo54837 ай бұрын
free mode gameplay It's not canon, dude
@mystdragon45478 жыл бұрын
Watched the original it was great
@slcmof8 жыл бұрын
+Myst dragon Thanks Myst!
@absolutecarnage7774 жыл бұрын
You didn't kill Rā's, you just didn't save him. Hell, you used the Nolan Batman skin for the first ending and he did the same thing to Rā's in Batman Begins.
@joshrandom8243 жыл бұрын
if you choose administer Cure ra is alive and then kills Nysa and then then uses smoke to get away from Batman
@mjareacts27318 жыл бұрын
Why does the first batsuit look like there's a crackhead in it?
@IronicallyUnironic7 жыл бұрын
Nolan trilogy skin.
@justrandomthings3197 жыл бұрын
Ugly ass Nolan Batman.
@TheLatiosnlatias027 жыл бұрын
chancy319 Always hated Nolan's one and even Affleck
@truongg23403 жыл бұрын
I selected choice A and now I regret as hell lol :))
@mikkelpoulsen946 жыл бұрын
I do Ra's Al Ghul alive, how can i change so he could die ?
@bearkeepaway25198 жыл бұрын
How's your day
@alio22698 жыл бұрын
is there a way to reverse my save file to destroy the machine instead?
@upandout2418 Жыл бұрын
They have change how much points you get
@MamziBella2 жыл бұрын
Thank GOD I killed Ra's. Batman already lost Talia, Nyssa was the closest he had to her.
@Lightner4455555555557 жыл бұрын
Letting him die has just as much guilt in it. But then again. Isn't Batman always knowingly letting civilians die by the hands of the Joker?
@cal5936 жыл бұрын
That's really the whole crux of their relationship. Check out "The Dark Knight Returns." It's an animated movie and is what Batman v Superman should have been like.
@aryapujasmara6 жыл бұрын
how to repeat this mission?
@norbertsoltesz10124 жыл бұрын
LOL the way nyssan dies is almost as bad as the way Talia dies in the The dark knight rises.
@booki70574 жыл бұрын
It's best for Batman to not save him.. Saving him takes more lives. Either choice,Someone dies. It's best for Batman to NOT save Ra's
@woolymammothgaming89198 жыл бұрын
i spared raas #Slcmazing
@slcmof8 жыл бұрын
+Wooly mammoth Gaming Good choice (:
@data344352 жыл бұрын
Do that in new game plus you won’t have the counter icon.
@Explosivevortex7 жыл бұрын
Lmao thank god I chose option b, option a is fucking grim
@shortgiraffe7003 жыл бұрын
I think destroying the machine is the better decision.
@nickramos56142 жыл бұрын
Batman should of killed ras along time ago then talia would of been alive reason because of that cuz ras was working with hugo stranged all this time which cause talia to join up with the joker and got killed
@razorwindmo466 жыл бұрын
Very cool you removed the commentary
@harsty69718 жыл бұрын
Like the vid #SLCMOFIA
@harsty69718 жыл бұрын
Also when you are gliding hold down RT and while you are still holding it keep on holding it with LT the button for line launcher in the sky up high and then just look at your cape on the side I'll show you what it looks like
@Jessica-kh1qg7 жыл бұрын
#teamRa's i hate Nyssa.
@thebatman683 жыл бұрын
Choice B is the right one You didn't kill him. You just destroyed his immortality. Such a tricky choice.