Batman Arkham Knight - All Alternative Endings To Shadow War (Ra‘s al Ghul)

[@metalmurcielago]

I destroyed the machine mostly because I wanted to add to my criminal zoo in the GCPD

[@marcelliitooo]

Me too 😂😂

[@Raven-5790]

Ur criminal zoo 🤣🤣🤣

[@mattmc9812]

I just didn't want to see ra live again

[@yarapah]

Same

[@Isaacisaperson4677]

Same for Azreal at least for me

[@pdragon619]

(Batman standing over the corpse of his dead lover's sister while a zombie maniac roams free on the streets) Batman:....yep this was the right decision, I did a good thing today...

[@georgeducady2351]

pdragon619 I read that in Kevin conroys voice...

[@senninsky6790]

This sound like Gamingsin

[@WdnUlik2no]

Lol

[@Professional_Ghost]

It really puts the no killing rule in perspective doesn't it. But I still choose to give him the cure because... Er......Uh...... *I'M BATMAN!*

[@nonaborhan7269]

@@Professional_Ghost Wouldn't letting him die not break his no kill rule? As he didn't kill him just let him die.

[@giantWario]

What I found a lot more interesting than this choice in the DLC is the discovery that there are traces of the Lazarus in the Gotham drinking water. And the Lazarus is known to make people not only hard to kill, but also violent and insane. It just explains a lot about Gotham.

[@jamaaldagreatest2748]

Also explains how Batman manages to heal and bounce back so quickly from a lot of the injuries he's suffered throughout his career

[@hermanputra9398]

@Malik Roman and should we think about how his joker is crazier than the original joker in the ending where we kill everyone.....

[@TheWorstAussie]

I don’t reckon this is the case, but do you think Prof. Pyg used Lazarus serum on his dollatrons/John doe’s? y’know, seeing as you have to knock them out to defeat them. I highly doubt it but just a thought

[@מתןרוכמן-ג6ק]

When it was said?

[@neo-warkid4edwards222]

it wasn't just in the drinking water, there was an outright Lazarus pit right underneath the Movie theater where Bruce's Parents died

[@benhislop1458]

Ra's saying that he's proud of Batman after he destroys the Lazarus Machine was probably more of an insult to Bruce than anything.

[@wzx6x6z6w]

Or he's actually proud since he knows Batman finally decided to do break his oath and stop saving nonredeemable people like himself.

[@manscapedgrinch1427]

@@wzx6x6z6w regardless, it was almost certainly taken as an insult by Bruce.

[@odracir102]

@@manscapedgrinch1427 more so when you realized these are the kind of words he wouldve wanted to hear from thomas

[@ij1376]

I have a different opinion: I think Ra'as was grateful to Batman. In Arkham City, Ra'as talked about how he was unable "to take much more" of the resurrections from the pit, his mind and body couldn't handle it; plus Batman declared Ra'as addicted to the pit and Ra'as didn't argue it which means it must be true. So now having had the plug pulled, and having had his own suffering due to the Pit's ill affects come to an end finally, I think Ra'as saw Batman as not condemning him but *freeing* him, hence the genuine last words that he was proud of Batman. That's how I interpreted it at the time; it actually struck an emotional chord with me.

[@silverblade7062]

I don’t think so I think Ra’s was genuinely proud batman could Finnaly move on from his moral code (that doesn’t benefit anyone but the villains) and lay him to rest in doing so he saved one of his daughters life and secured Gotham and the world from another ras invasion

[@amdcolon1]

Wow finally someone who doesn't speak through the video and good edit.

[@joshuagavile4775]

Mad Amd you're obviously too dumb to differentiate a "Let's Play" and a walkthrough. If you don't want commentary, search for a walkthrough. EVERY "Let's Play" has commentary.

[@-Trauma.]

Josh Gavile Not all of them do.

[@joshuagavile4775]

KageTrauma all "Let's Play" do. The ones that don't are called walkthrough. I have never watched a "Let's Play" without commentary.

[@joshuagavile4775]

Mad Amd you're obviously new to the Let's Play world if you're not adapted to commentary.

[@scott4398]

Nyssa... I'M NOT WEARIN' HOCKEY PADS

[@andym5712]

Scott A best quote ever

[@KonohaRamenNoodles]

Don’t get me FAHKIN’ STAHTED SCAHCROW, IM NAT WARRIN’ HACKEY PADS as Ben Affleck would say.

[@crazcat5675]

That's funny

[@carman2899]

*Enters Batmobile and leaves

[@airtiger4577]

This is so random lol

[@Tracer_Krieg]

3:55 "I won't kill you... but I don't have to save you."

[@zerosorigin8387]

J Sailer Perfect time for him to say that too

[@guy2090]

It's not even that. It's more like, I don't have to kill you, but I'm stopping your freak resurrection that destroys the natural order of things.

[@DefinitiveDubs]

The problem I have with letting Ra's die is that in Arkham City, he tells Joker that despite everything, he would've saved him. Seems weird for him to do that, but not save Ra's.

[@adambump5297]

That's true however this could also be Batman changing that he's finally willing to make tough calls even if they lead to death of those who deserve it.

[@kenc9901]

Definitive Dubs that why if you're going to destroy the machine, you do it with the nolan batsuit.

[@kainholden2722]

Keep in mind, this is no different then grundy, ras has been dead for years in a way

[@Bannedconfidential]

Because Batman loves Joker that’s his best friend.

[@TimCools_WithALongO]

Well, to be fair, Ra's and Joker died in different ways. For Joker, death was a deviation from his normal state (-> he was made sick by using TITAN); for Ra's, living was the deviation from his normal state (-> he was made alive again by using Lazarus), and so not giving him the Lazarus is kind of more of a reality check than it is cutting off life support. The man did live for 600 years and would've lived even longer, while the rest of humanity lived much shorter lives than that, so by conventional morality that can be seen as kind of immoral (at least unfair) in and of itself. ...or you can just say that Batman has changed since Joker's death, which is a perfectly acceptable answer as well

[@ExpansivePlum05]

When you want to see what would happen if you didnt give him the cure and find out it was the better outcome. :'(

[@RuthlessLieutenant]

That's why I made the other choice in new game+

[@missiontobeaman3111]

Of course he’s a bad guy

[@Mask0fFate]

RuthlessLieutenant Even in New Game+ I couldn’t do it. Ra’s was dying already, and no matter what, someone was going to end up on Death’s door. I chose what I felt was the lesser of two evils.

[@へらんdめ]

@YGuy1 damn right It's Batman's code "DO NOT KILL" if batman was goin to save the joker in arkham city why kill Ra's who is almost as crazy I couldn't break his code.

[@kuwakaney2443]

YGuy1 stfu, you can’t control how people play and Batman would’ve destroyed the Lazarus

[@ericspenceri9449]

I think both endings exemplify one of my favorite quotes from the Joker of all people "You managed to find a way to win...and everybody still loses!" Ending A where he saves Ra's ends in Ra's retracting his people from Gotham, but in the death of Nessa Ending B has Batman breaking his no-kill rule, letting Ra's die so that countless others might live It's choices like this that make for some of the best Batman stories

[@meetprakasit1447]

I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you haha.

[@bennyboi3351]

Well technically he did not break it as ra's was supposed to die years ago

[@cursedhawkins1305]

@@bennyboi3351 Also the guy was put on life support in the GCPD, you can't exactly right him off as dead just yet.

[@madhatter2744]

Not saving someone is definitely not the same as causing them to die in my eyes.

[@TokyoXtreme]

I believe there was a scene in which Batman tells Ra’s something like “I won’t kill you, but I don’t have to save you.”

[@Lone432345]

I think that letting Ra Sha Gul die is the better choice.

[@bobsmith-to7qv]

Yea I definitely think I fucked up on that one... Trying to do the "bat thing" I let a lazurus crazed maniac go and watched my dead gf's sister get killed. wtf rocksteady

[@pingaspearce9403]

Lone Star I saved him. It was the only decision that felt Batman like.

[@TheGaza93]

Yup plus deep down he wants his immortality to end

[@WdnUlik2no]

I let him die, now I feel bad

[@jokeralfeeen]

no it is the same as killing him

[@darkhero-3097]

For all four times I played the game, (two normal ones, two on New Game Plus,) I destroyed the Lazarus Machine. It was the best option out of everything.

[@Ajnadain]

@YGuy1 someone is salty. The devs gave choices for a reason so everyone can choose theirs. Apparently the original batman, the one that was created 1939 by Bob kane killed some villains. So every iteration of batman has slightly different "no killing rule". Some iterations don't save the villains when they are about to die by their own hands. So yeah good luck with your salty comments.

[@Ajnadain]

@TheDisasterPrediction 2003 😄 thanks, but Mr. Boss guy who owns the internet is alot cooler. One teeny tiny little thing. No matter what you do in this situation, Someone dies. Either Ras or his daughter. Either batman saves a bad guy then that guy kills a good girl and potentially alot more or the girl kills the bad guy and saves alot more lives. And I will let contemplate which is the logic one.

[@Ajnadain]

@TheDisasterPrediction 2003 I am not refuting or accusing anybody, just saying that the ending of the dlc is more of logic than anything else.

[@kuwakaney2443]

TheDisasterPrediction 2003 yes you are, Batman would never have done that and if you think he would, you’re stupid.

[@redhood8141]

@@Ajnadain I Totally agree, plus He doesn't even Let Nyssa Kill Ra's, he just finally dies of old age. I tell people to think of the Solomon Grundy situation, We had no problem killing a Living Zombie who's been alive for over 100 years but a dude who's over 500 we have a problem just letting him die? Plus I fully believe if Alfred had to make a decision, he'd let Ra's pass

[@TheLazyMan94]

If Batman thinks destroying the machine is considering "killing" then just refuse to give the cure and beat up Ra's minions and then have Nyssa destroy the machine instead.

[@ThatGuy-en2nn]

Smart...too bad the writers didn't think of that.

[@ij1376]

I did this dlc for the first time last week, and I agonized over the decision of saving or letting Ra'as die naturally. I finally picked to let him pass away and "pull the plug." Didn't regret it. Then I do new game + and I tell myself I'm going to make the other choice to see what happens...and I just couldn't do it lol. I couldn't. So I'm glad this video exists, and after seeing the ending where you spare him, now I'm *really* glad I didn't spare that psycho.

[@Aivottaja]

I never even tried saving Ra's. The idea was so moronic I felt it cheapens Batman.

[@pingaspearce9403]

Aivottaja Batmans character would save Ras. I mean, he saves the bloody joker.

[@staticshotaop561]

Pingas Pearce he actually is reveled to have raped him

[@Aivottaja]

Batman raped the Joker?

[@Prodigy396]

Aivottaja I wanna see proof of that lol, though I wouldn't be surprised if he did that quite bit of eccentric storylines in DC Comics.

[@na.meless]

@@Prodigy396 he is lying

[@luisf2793]

Unfortunately for Ra’s I was wearing the Dark Knight suit and couldn’t resist using the line “I won’t kill you, but I don’t have to save you” Maybe if I had a different suit on (besides the Keaton one of course) he might have been saved.

[@ThatGuy-en2nn]

That wouldn't make sense because you actively destroy his machine and are the cause of his death. It would work if you just didn't give him the cure.

[@pyrrhusofepirus8491]

I love how Ra’s, a 600 year old zombie maniac, as soon as he gets off the thing he’s hooked up, effortlessly dispatches his daughter like she was nothing.

[@faded9581]

Well he has hundreds of years of fighting skill over her. All he needed was a well placed strike, its not like he tried to wrestle with her in his emanciated state.

[@jabbathehutt83]

it was just muscle memory tbh

[@TheBatman667]

Plot armour

[@NicktheLongman]

The thing about the second one is that it isn't even a compromise on his rule, this isn't even remotely 'Batman kills'. He was asked to save the life of a madman who was already dying way after his natural time, and Batman didn't. That's not 'killing someone', that's not even turning a blind eye, it's "I am dying of my own choices, please Batman literally destroy the natural order to stop it so I can go on to kill another thousand innocents" "No." "Omg Batman kills not canon"

[@tabulldog2743]

Ditto. If Batman wants to save a life then he should've taken that Lazarus to the nearest cancer ward and given to a child, not a mass murdering maniac.

[@Castornator]

I agree, this doesn't go against his code and kinda dumb they act like there's without a doubt. I regret nothing for blowing up the pit

[@RyRyman]

No…In a way…he’s killing him…he’s standing right infront of him with a medicine that can save his life…to let him die is in a way “killing him”

[@robertdetres747]

Doesn't the Lazarus pit turn you crazy

[@guy2090]

@@RyRyman then he's killing everyone in the world who is dying by not mass producing Lazarus juice. Batman just committed genocide with that logic.

[@vexjaeger4314]

Reading the comments on Batman’s no kill code made me think, I know why he says he doesn’t kill, but honestly I think it’s because he would enjoy it to much. Several times in Batman lore it’s been said that crossing that line wouldn’t be hard, it would be to damn easy,

[@TokyoXtreme]

Honestly speaking, there are a fair number of goons that Batman beats up throughout the story of Arkham Knight (and the others), that will definitely pass away from their injuries without medical attention. Especially the ones riding in cars that Batman sideswipes. There was one guy defending a tower that I super-stunned and drop-kick comboed who went flying off the building and fell five stories. I didn’t even think it was possible in the game for a goon to fall off a building, but it was the final goon in the group (slow motion knockout), so maybe that’s why. I looked at his body in detective mode and it said “unconscious”, but he would absolutely be dead.

[@kainholden2722]

I feel like ras dying was the best choice, in reality hes already dead, kinda like grundy in arkham city

[@markcobuzzi826]

When I was researching different philosophies once, regarding morality and ethics, it reminds me of the times I would find people, who do make a distinction between actively taking a life versus not prolonging someone’s death. One of the examples I came across involved people, who consider direct euthanasia on a terminally ill patient to be morally wrong. However, they do consider it permissible in some cases to “pull the plug”, allow natural death to take its course, medically induce and maintain an unconscious state until death if one’s pain is that severe, and/or offer pain-relieving drugs that might hasten death as a mere potential side-effect (as oppose to the desired direct outcome). In this case, I would consider Batman refusing to give Ras the Lazarus Pit chemicals, which will just prolong his death and further poison his mind to make him even more of a monster, to be more akin to the latter. After making the choice, however, Batman still refuses to stab Ras with the sword, preferring to let him live out the rest of his life in the GCPD, since that would be more akin to the former.

[@danielpedraza6455]

Not similar at all

[@H4WKs_]

As soon as I gave him the cure and the daughter ended up dying I instantly searched this up and as soon as I saw he ends up in police custody as he deserves then I turned my game of instantly before it could save and broke the cure I feel proud

[@ThatGuy-en2nn]

You can't accept you're choices and go back to get the best outcome . That's not something to be proud of lmao.

[@H4WKs_]

That Guy if I’ve spend 7 hours doing main story and all side missions and 4hours doing riddler mission and then pay money for the dlc I think I’m aloud to choose how the ending goes otherwise I might aswell replay the entirety of my 130% completion to make a different choice that I felt wasn’t right but I guess if I want to accept my choice then I’ll just spend half a day redoing it

[@ThatGuy-en2nn]

@@H4WKs_ What? I didn't dispute your right to do anything with the game. I pointed out the type of person you are and that It's not something to be proud of. You're "allowed " to do whatever you want.

[@otto_von]

@@ThatGuy-en2nn its a game he can do whatever he wants you loser. there's nothing to be proud about or not about. its just a game.

[@samissa9714]

In both decisions something or someone dies. Giving the cure will cuase the death of nysa, but not killing the code. Destroying the machine keeps nysa alive but kills the code. That's why ras says his proud of Bruce, it's because he broke the code to make the best decision knowing finaly that bruce would be a great leader for the assasins.

[@CedricBassman]

Ras is proud of Bruce because he made the right decision. There was this whole talk in Arkham City between them where Ras admitted that he was addicted to the Pit, but he also said that he couldn't bear it anymore. That every resurrection took more and more from him and that the next one will most likely drain his mind completly. He also said that he doesnt want this, but is unable to stop it himself due to his addiction. When he said he is proud of Bruce he was sincere, since Bruce spared him of this exact fate. Also his code is not Broken in both endings. Ras was already dead, for years. He simply didnt comply to resurrect a mass murderer, that is nowhere close to killing someone. Giving him the Cure is just a flat out moronic decision.

[@softwarelivre2389]

@@CedricBassman then Batman could have killed him in Arkham City, instead of keeping him alive, but it isn't what he did. So Batman would have saved him once again, even if it causes death in the end.

[@unforgivensnake]

The best part on how divisive this mission in to the community. I just did what Batman would do. Not what you would do.

[@SplendidSuperman122]

I think even Ra’s himself wanted to die at this point. I mean he tells Batman he’s proud he did what he did.

[@itscyber_ex]

its nice that both endings feel practical

[@spdutahraptor777]

yeah, same with Azrael's... you'd think (and wish) that each ending could lead to more content... but the you remember it's just a moral choice for the player

[@jokeralfeeen]

"dont make me regret this .... or you will" BADASS

[@AlanatorTheGreat]

6:00 Rocksteady just keeps making Jason Todd references.

[@danat4914]

Just noticed it, haha!

[@hk47warlord]

It'S FoReShAdOwInG! GeT It? Dont worry, Rockstar will only allude to Jason Todd 10 million more times before the reveal.

[@thatjuneboyy1253]

More like the joker

[@thatrandomguy9841]

No that's the same way he carried joker out of the final fight in arkham city

[@TheSigma008]

@@thatrandomguy9841 Yeah but the way he carried Joker was already a Jason Todd's reference

[@imanonymous8177]

I love how ra’s didn’t want to go back in, he even says “dectective... proud of you” he was proud of Bruce for not taking him back in, like he said in Arkham city, he is always scared of what will come out of the pit. So that ending actually gives meaning

[@theAverageJoe25]

I’m pretty sure the proud thing was that he killed somebody

[@giantWario]

@@theAverageJoe25 I really don't think so. First of all, he didn't kill anyone, not unnaturally prolonging Ras life is not the same thing as killing him. Under that logic, Batman would be guilty of killing everyone dying of cancer in the world since the Lazarus could also save them. No Ras was grateful. Ras hated what he had become but he just couldn't bring himself to quit, he was addicted to the Lazarus as Batman said in the last game.

[@johnboko7110]

I like how this game gives you option sometimes about what to do and make you regret it and look like the jackass when you do it.

[@StormyFire_]

When he said proud of you in my first play through that had me in tears cause just the pain in his voice is too real and me knowing he's gonna die its sad and also its fucked up that no matter what ending you choose someone always dies

[@archiejrichards8468]

I chose to save Ra's, what a stupid decision that was, I totally regret the decision I made

[@marchaelbarras200]

ArchieJRichards same. I thought that ending would break batman's moral code.

[@bigmaneastside]

Marchael Barras it was a trick question. Either choice wouldn’t have made him a killer but since you cured Ra now you have to take responsibility of Talisa’s death and Ra’s escape. I fell for it too, and now I’m highly pissed

[@ij1376]

I agonized over the decision and picked to not save him. Then I played new game + and was going to pick the other choice to see what happens, and I *still* couldn't do it because it felt so wrong. So then I watch this video and I saw that awful ending, and now I'm *really* glad I didn't pick to save him lol

[@weed75black35]

I only picked to save him to keep Batman in character because he was so persistent in keeping Ra's alive in Arkham City.

[@thebatsbury8053]

Don't. Remember what batman said at the end of arkham city? He said that despite everything joker did, he would have still saved him. Therefore, Batman would still save people even if they are a monster of a human being.

[@thorodinson1933]

“I won’t kill you but I don’t have to save you”

[@Andre_APM]

I'm glad I chose to destroy the Lazarus machine, it's the better ending.

[@zakapholiac9377]

YGuy1 what is wrong with you? You keep insulting people with a different decision to yours over a fucking game 😂😂

[@strikerv1816]

YGuy1 you sound dumb as fuck. Let them play the game how the fuck they want to and stop gate keeping. The developers wouldn’t of put it in the game if they gave a fuck about the shit your saying.

[@へらんdめ]

@YGuy1 Bro shut the fuck up I chose to save Ra's but I respect other people's decisions if they didn't they put that opinion in the game for the player to decide so sit down dumbass.

[@titangamerhd9215]

@@sethlanson i applauded you

[@marcusmoore4819]

YGuy1 Kid get a life

[@mrhimothy23]

That first fight scene is amazing.

[@bbernales177]

Bruh that “proud of you” is haunting. Like it’s so clear that option is not the option batman would really take. But the one ra’s would

[@SpencerChuaWeiYe]

Wait a minute, why was Ra's proud of the Detective for not saving him? Is it because batman finally allowed someone to die even though he had a moral code against causing death? That he finally broke it and pleased Ra's?

[@TheDevilMustDie]

Spencer Chua Wei Ye yeah cause he wants bruce to be his succesor at the head of the league

[@ImmaculateOtter]

I think deep down there, the true Ra's still exists, and he deeply wants his mortality to end. The Lazarus Pit, however, turned him into a monster - one he couldn't even control. He was proud of Batman for fulfilling these wishes.

[@kingatlas4338]

Ra's wants Batman to replace him as the Demon's Head. To do that Batman must be willing to take a life. By not saving him and paving the way to Ra's Death he has done exactly what Ra's wanted him to. Either ending Ra's wins really, leaving Batman to either have to come to grips with allowing a mass murderer to escape after killing his daughter, or go on knowing he has broken his code which has defined him all these years. Saying that though, Batman has commonly said that if he were to ever take a life it would be the death of Batman sooooo perhaps if this is the last mission you do its Bruce saying his final farewell to the cowl.....

[@TheGIJew.]

I think it was just the real Ra's, the small part of him left that hadn't been tainted by the lazarus pit, wanted to die and was proud that Batman let him rest after so long.

[@fruestrella]

Indeed my youngling Ra’s want Bruce to kill him and be the successor of the league, in Arkham city it’s explained better, here when you let him to die in esconde you are killing him, so he dies proud

[@stryletz]

Destroying the machine makes the most sense, as not only is Batman at this time aware his days of protecting Gotham are over and can't let a mad man like Raz roam free, but he isn't directly killing him either. He' letting him die, like Bale in Batman Begins.

[@DefMM123]

I found it so badass when Ra's said he was proud of Batmans choice!

[@anonymousdinosaur605]

The ending where you save him feels sadder

[@maxweinberg26]

Daaaaamn i really need to replay this masterpiece

[@lynxregions6724]

YGuy1 I know I’m 3 months late but people have there own opinions

[@ChrisXIllustratesXGaming]

Hearing his master say he's proud of him definitely boost the self esteem.

[@icewebb]

so its either the death of a girl, a crazy ass ninja god roaming the street, BUT you have the approval of your lover nobody dies except a crazy ass ninja god who died like 100 times now, ras al ghul your former mentor is proud of you

[@stanbowler1752]

The music reminds me of arkam City

[@titangamerhd9215]

it is arkham city music.

[@wicaksonoismailrasyiddin6794]

the dark Knight skin is really dope

[@zerakhu]

I like the 2nd ending better but I feel like the first ending is the total Batman thing to do even though it’s silly

[@ElTejano98]

I honestly think the 2nd one is the more Batman thing to do. He’s already killed the joker knowing that if he didn’t he’d come back again possibly killing even more people, it’s like he’s come to the realization that sometimes sacrificing your own reputation can be for the greater good. But if the joker hadn’t died before this then the first ending would be the most likely outcome. Knowing that it’s also going to be his final night I doubt that he would have wanted to risk anymore bloodshed from raas so he put his trust into Nysa.

[@riffhousestudios96]

He didn’t kill him guys, he just didn’t save him…

[@frogglen6350]

Wow. Saving him honestly feels intentionally lame. Even Alfred's dialogue at the end was like "Wow. Really Bruce?"

[@johnpaulino1565]

Batman didn't kill him, he just didn't save him. Big difference. Still no kill in my book.

[@tonytonychoppas]

The “save ras” ending reminds me of Arkham City ending lol

[@shortgiraffe700]

Destroying the Lazarus Machine seems like the best decision to me.

[@africanstallion3370]

This is without a doubt my favorite bat suit

[@travismccutchan3144]

If you pause it at the right moment, you can see that Ra's vanishes before his smoke bomb even hits the ground.

[@melherder5792]

So what happens when he disappeares

[@dilrajshergill9323]

“It’s why she loved you” ….. shit hurts knowing she died in Arkham City

[@robonthecob6920]

Yeah… even by Batman’s no-kill standards, destroying the machine is the correct choice on pretty much every level.

[@sudd32x14]

I cured him thinking there will be a boss battle but no I regret now.

[@kahoo_slayer]

I cant say I " regret " choosing to cure ras I thougt we are going to just cure him and arrest him right there and nothing good ever came out when batman decided to kill his villains last time he killed joker he deadass turned into the fuckin joker

[@zidan694]

Funny... In Arkham City was Ra's and Mr. Freeze very important characters. In Arkham Knight they are just fucking DLC

[@8512124]

and not even a good one , DLCs were short & disappointing

[@titangamerhd9215]

@@8512124 they were better than the main story of knight

[@bobsandwich3431]

@@8512124 Mr freezes one was freaking fantastic

[@rRevilo64]

@@8512124 They’re side missions. What did you expect. 10+ Hours of gameplay per villain’s story

[@megaultradamn]

I think Batman (in this continuity) doesn't kill because he secretly wants the war on crime to go on forever. He's lived like a warrior all his life, so to go back to a life of peace would seem like a waste of his abilities. The death of joker made him more brutal because he knew that the Joker's death was a sign that his part in the war would soon be over.

[@yourvirtualdad]

I picked to administer cure, and tbh i prefer it that way. I get that Ra's is revived and escaped, and Nyssa is also dead, but it's what Batman would've done. Even in Arkham City, Batman said he would've saved Joker even though he had just shot (one of) the only woman Batman ever loved. The only thing that is regrettable imo is that there is a Ra's-shaped hole in my GCPD now. It's also kinda dumb how they set it up to imply that you would be killing Ra's, even though he doesn't even die.

[@MR.bloodstone748]

Man hearing ra's say that...its deep "DETECTIVE...Proud of you!" After everything that happened throughout the arkhamverse everything thats happened came all this way rip the true batman

[@ghostgauntlet2746]

that “proud of you” was the best thing ever

[@bonafidemonafide7810]

What I like about the second ending is Batman doesn't actually kill him‚ he just refuses to take part in a criminal's activity and lets the Ra's die a normal death. If a man in a hospital dies then its not batmans fault similar to this situation etc.

[@angel_aeon]

To consider the 2nd option as Batman killing him is up for interpretation as Batman himself considers it as killing Ra's (as does Alfred but he tries to justify it to help his conscience). It's also pretty similar to the Joker's situation in Arkham City, the Joker like Ra's was dying due to his own actions, Ra's because of Lazarus Pit fuckery and Joker for injecting himself with Titan, the only notable difference is Joker screwed himself over by stabbing Bruce and Bruce isn't just letting a dying man rot here, he's actively aiding in his death by destroying the Lazarus Machine. I agree Option B is better in the long run, Gotham free of the assassins and a supervillain, however I like playing the Batman games with the mindset that my decisions are what Batman would also make and Option A is definitely what he would have done and the endings pretty much confirm this, if you aid in killing Ra's he congratulates you for breaking your moral code.

[@coreykirby1632]

@@angel_aeon but with the joker situation Batman destroy the Lazarus pit literally exactly the same thing he did here only differences ras was supposed to be dead centuries ago

[@annihilator5494]

​@@angel_aeon You don't kill him you just stop him from becoming immortal by not giving him the Lazarus juice. He even gives ras life support at the GCPD so he didn't kill him, he just stopped him from becoming immortal.

[@calebmurphy9406]

All endings? You mean all 2 of them?

[@freshreload2917]

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[@LoneHermit]

I know that it's important for Batman to not kill, but looking at the state of Ra's... It would be a mercy killing, and not a senseless and violent murder. Batman is giving Ra's what he needs... A proper death, not an eternal life living as a husk of your former self.

[@SuitUp.]

This is not about what's fair ... it's about what Batman in his madness would do.

[@raymondchen6720]

That is a badass bat suit

[@oofer_gamer_life3080]

i destroyed the machine cause i was like"Oh batman gets to kill someone in these games now? FUCK YEAH!😃"😂

[@Timgoesgym]

ill never understand how blowing up the machine breaks his vow

[@chriscormac231]

4:25 was it too much to expect the rebel faction to silently appear and kill all the loyalists?

[@FearToXic123]

2:26 "So that's what it feels like."

[@MisterX867]

Batman is so goddamn incompetent that I guarantee if the players didn't have a choice the default one would be the one were you save Ra's.

[@benjaminaltube8731]

I keep forgetting Batman have dlc story packs. It's still such a full of gameplay game. Unlike other games that the good stuff doesn't come until the paid dlc arrives

[@Ihasnotomato]

I decided to cure him because I thought it was what batman would do. However, like Azreal, I now find myself annoyed I can't fully fill up the GCPD cells lol

[@brendenp5920]

It doesn't matter your personal opinion real Batman would never destroy the machine. It's why in Nyssa's dying dialogue she literally says it's the aspect of him that made Talia madly in love with him. He could never bring himself to do it, it's not like that's a good trait all of the time but it's who he is.

[@frogglen6350]

Awesome. Batman is OK with letting innocent people get murdered and learned nothing from Jason

[@smolfry3438]

But ra s died in arkham city already then got revived so technically its not killing since ra,s is technically already dead

[@giantWario]

Was ''killing'' Grundy also breaking his code then? Ra's is already dead. He's just preventing a zombie from coming back to life again. And Ra's, the real Ra's, would want him to keep it from happening again, there was a huge speech about it in Arkham City, he knows that eventually, the thing that will come back to life won't really be him. And I'd say this time it definitely wasn't him. Ra's loved his daughters, he wouldn't have killed Nyssa.

[@nickfantini8348]

I didn’t kill him but I didn’t have to save him

[@RJ_200]

He was gonna die anyway they ran out of lazerus

[@Bat_fan-1]

I always let him die 1) Because he's been living for more than hundreds if not thousands of years and even if he kept having the Lazurus it would only end up perhaps giving catastrophic effects after hundreds of more years And 2) I'm not going to kill him but it doesn't mean I have to save him (Taken from the quote of Batman begins)

[@jamesbartlett5640]

Destroy Lazarus machine is also an Easter Egg for when he carried Joker body in Arkham City.

[@rubenreyes6704]

Hey I chose to let Ra's die and when he said "I'm proud of you" to batman I think I saw Batman cry, did anybody else saw it too? Or was it Just me?

[@phristo]

Good thing I did not administer Cure, Batman sounded stupid and did not even regret seeing Nyssa die. That was his fault. and "There might be Lazarus Chemical remaining" what a stupid suggestion batbrain. Destroy the fucking machine, you won't kill anyone.

[@MalpasDan]

I had no idea ras was in this game until today

[@hixsey2501]

D.L.C

[@heresnegan8088]

Letting Ras die was the better ending cause its the end of the league of shadows and Ras rain on gotham.

[@corvus5964]

i destroyed the machine since i wanted to add as many people to my prison as possible and i also wanted to see what would happen and it was pretty cool that Ra's said he was proud of me because i let him die

[@katsasgeorge]

When I saw that saving his ass actually kills Talia's sister, I was SO glad I didn't, I threw up my hands in the air !

[@sexcannonmusic284]

God i hate that first ending , pretty much shows how stupid batman COULD be , at times like these you need to way the options , and letting Ra's live well he just killed thousands of innocent people right there , not giving him the lazarus doesn't mean he kills him , just lock him up like the other criminals and without lazarus he will die on his naturally

[@zaidanahnaf9431]

Justice League: *Defeated Darkseid* Batman: I'll take him to GCPD

[@cameronsharp2022]

ALL Alternate endings Two alternate endings

[@onthegreenmedia2438]

Destroying the machine is no different than pulling the plug on someone who is dying. I wouldn’t consider that murder.

[@brandenblomberg3048]

I chose not to cure him, and honestly upon seeing what happens I think I chose the better outcome. Nyssa isn’t killed and at least Ra’s isn’t just outright killed. Even back at GCPD he utters “Proud of you” before Batman leaves his cell. It’s almost like he was wanting it all to finally end for some time, and while Batman doesn’t outright kill him like he wanted him to in Arkham City, he eventually does sort of die to the hands of Batman’s choice of destroying the Lazarus machine.

[@jkerr7288]

Nyssa's death will be on Batman's hand. The other choice nobody died

[@iRazenrak]

I wish the devolution that Batman goes through became more evident as the game went on. For example, the Batmobile looks like the Jokermobile in Batman's eyes, and you have to drive it with it looking like that. And every so often, you hear Batman let out an unintended giggle or laugh.

[@DDuMas]

I don't think Batman would consider it killing him. Not saving him using the Lazarus pit is just natural causes. Batman certainly wouldn't consider it right to save everyone dying, using the Lazarus pit.

[@zacharymccue14]

I feel like I choose the wrong ending, I didn't know I could send him to GCPD, I wanted to get everyone one in that place

[@batmanlord5474]

The ending make me think there will be a next batman game

[@blakechandler167]

batman Lord Batman: beyond Arkham?

[@manyrios6297]

This is Kantian ethics vs Utilitarian ethics at its finest.

[@lmao.3661]

god fucking damnit lmao, i thought i could at least lock him up if i let him live. they made it sound like he was on damn life support with that lazarus.

[@alr9447]

Nice job batman, saving one life that will cause the doom for hundreds of others. Great moral code

[@vegetahigurashi3217]

The Anime Bat-suit from Gotham Knight, wish that it had been DLC instead of being linked to having a WB play account

[@hixsey2501]

It's an ugly suit anyways

[@ibooogeymani9380]

well, at least you can't say the combat was boring in this video. (referring to the dark knight trilogy).

[@Bruh-du4xr]

On the first story mode I chose to destroy machine but on + I'm gonna do the cure I just want to see all endings but overall I choose to destroy the Lazarus machine

[@Jack-yz2rj]

YGuy1 calm the fuck down buddy you’ve replied to every comment on this vid