FLINT, Turkish laminated Bow by Buck Trail - Review

Turkish laminated bow from Buck Trail.
30# awesome, 50# look for yourself :)
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[@ChrissyASMR]

I’m just now getting back into archery (it’s been 15 years) and I’m SO happy you have so many informative videos and are still uploading regularly 🥺 this has, by FAR, been my favorite channel to come to when I have a questions or if I want to look at other cool bows to check out!!

[@singharchery3043]

very well shown ... and well said : Don't buy Cheap Bows with high poundage... I totally agree with Armin... one of the best genuine review on net. And moreover a reviewer should have courage to show the breaking of Bow ... That what Armin has...Hats off...

[@ArminHirmer]

thanks big bro ;)

[@jonoedwards4195]

You would think a higher poundage would be less likely to snap, being stronger an all?

[@LOFIGSD]

My Cheapest bow is a 45# Turkish style, lots of strain, 6 months, thousands of arrows, still going strong, guess the real test, will be if the Company replaces it no quibbles.

[@UTxTheArchangel]

@@LOFIGSD Without context on your bow being given, the word cheap can be subjective in this context. We don't know if your cheapest bow is a 300$ bow or a 40$ bow. For all we know, you have 6 bows all between 1500$ and 300$. I'd say a bow isn't really a cheap bow unless it's under $100. Below 200$ is budget, higher than 300$ would be average...and so on.

[@LOFIGSD]

@@UTxTheArchangel less than 100 UK Pounds, so cheap, its good that Armin reviews these bows, but inexpensive doesnt always mean poor quality.

[@steveg8322]

THAT WAS SCARY! Glad it didn't hurt you, Armin!

[@malachimatcho7583]

Me too that startled me! Jeeze. If that happened to some other guy it would be no big deal but we can’t have things like this happening to Lord Hirmer.

[@josephvisnovsky1462]

I stopped listening to you at 3:18 when the black cat entered the frame LOL

[@ColetteNoir]

It looks like a kitten, smol and cute!

[@rapsod1911]

I purchased Flint 30# few weeks ago and I was surprised how light it is. I also purchased Freddy Archery Nomad 48"- 40#, and 53"-50# and White Feathers Carbon Forever 53"-35# and to be honest I like Flint 48"-30# the most. I use Skylon Edge 400-33"-150grn-5" shield with every bow and arrow from Flint have same penetration depth as Nomad 48"-40#. Don't use 5" feathers on Edge, feathers looks ridiculously oversized :) I must cut them with hot wire.

[@rickydlayaute5387]

10:58 the drama !!!!! Meister Armin the bowterminator!!!! You do a very dangerous job Armin !!! I don't know if I'll watch your next videos...my heart won't resist!!! God bless you Man ...wear protect glasses...a helmet....an armor.... a.....? ....a?..... Yes! A MASK!!!!!😄😄😄 Richard Lionheart 👍😎🏹🇫🇷

[@Dusty357]

We not talk about the 50 pound bow now , a dunno why but that made me chuckle, sorry . Pleased you were not hurt though . Thank you for sharing your message

[@tammynfletcher]

Now I've read all the comments up till now 71 I believe. Not one person yet has mentioned that on your first 3 shots the lower limb bent correctly but if you review the footage you'll notice the upper limb only bent about 2" below the kassan eye. That bow was never checked for proper tiller it balance at any draw length or you would have obviously seen it. I noticed it as soon as you said it was stiff feeling lower part of the upper limb just kinda leaned at you. You can see it on the tiller tree also when you checked for poundage. Not checking tiller on a bow at the factory is definitely piss pour quality control. Please let us viewers know how the company responds to warranty I'm curious. Thanks for another great review my friend.

[@jonoedwards4195]

My AF 50 Lb Longbow snapped while it was hanging in its rack, I left it strung to stretch the string and it went bang! AF asked a few questions an requested a few photos sent Me a new one ASAP which has performed perfect for three years and is a favourite in My collection, AF even let Me have the replacement Bow in 45 Lb as I politely asked. Great after sales service in My case .Have a good one Tammy.

[@ArminHirmer]

this is not an AF bow, the company is Win&Win in Korea, so we will see. I will keep you posted

[@danielbarnes6873]

What happened in the end do you have any response as of yet thanks

[@supriajarchery]

😱😱😱😱 Make me shock when the bow delaminate and broke..

[@miguelveratraditionalarche9374]

Hi! Mr. Armin nice to see you again in action. 😀 When the Bow explode even I blinks quickly😬 good that you're fine, don't hit your face. You look in health for new Archery adventures on your ranch🎯

[@miguelveratraditionalarche9374]

@Sigi from dem dar Hillz mon I don't know if I've been lucky. but my AF have not given me any problem.😀👍

[@saulmartin8398]

Hi Armin! I am thinking about buying this flint bow to start thumb shooting turkish bows (I currently use tradicional recurved bow with mediterranean style and carbonfiber arrows -Warrior-) and I dont really know what kind of arrows I should use. What arrows do you recommend for this Flint with 35lbs? Thank you!

[@LOFIGSD]

I have a cheaper 45 pound Turkish bow, great bow, 42", very compact, guess the next test, is will they replace it? Happy that didn't explode in my face, my Girlfriend said that to me once, but thats another story...

[@rolfbaumann7585]

As far as i know, These bows are Made by af archery and my AF Yuan bow has a huge vertical crack in the upper limb after 2 years, the af han fibreglas bow also cracked and lost 10# of draw weight and the Tips of the Tartar bow Just bent all the time. As of now i only Order bows from eastern europe

[@rolfbaumann7585]

And the Meng Yuan Krabben bow from elong Outdoor/Nika archery cracked horizontally at füll draw. I guess i should Stick to Downhill Mountainbiking..

[@danielbarnes6873]

Tbh ive never seen a bow held in position for so long and trying to pull it past comfortable was a bad idea i felt it looked like it was really struggling to get there and you pulled it more, i would have stopped but good stress test id still buy that bow as tbh it was put under allot of pressure in this video

[@RandomGuy-ej9gr]

Really disappointed with the 50lbs bow. I’ve got an 80lbs Chinese recurve made out of fibreglass and that handles 30” just fine. Doesn’t feel like it will snap any second.

[@kaikart123]

Because it's not made of shoddily constructed laminated strips, and just the good ol' tough one piece fiberglass strips.

[@hambaallah1948]

Ya buck trail like rebrad af. I bought 50lb. It hell damn hard on end of draw after 28inch. No wonder it want to break lol

[@sigmanarchery54]

Man that’s rough you would sure think their quality control would be a little better than that. 👍🏼🏹🇺🇸

[@jenjen7728]

Every time you put a bow on that contraption I get a stomach ache. Lol I'm so glad you weren't hurt and I like the 30# bow!❤🙏 Great review thank you!

[@bobl.1044]

Strange how it broke in exactly the same place as the TopArchery one. Glad to see you are OK. When I saw it after the near heart attack I was getting deja poo: I felt like I had seen that 💩 before.

[@bobdobric6787]

Thanks for your videos im a beginner and you inspired me too get my first Bow today . Keep up your intresting knowledge and reviews 👍

[@SnowblindOtter]

I suppose that's a good advantage of laminated fiberglass bows, with the fiberglass being more likely to hold the bow together during a break rather than shattering like a composite or self-bow.

[@alexwest2573]

“We don’t talk about the 50 pound anymore” 😂😂😂

[@UncleDanBand64]

Snap that scared me! Glad you did not get popped!

[@ARABARCHERYTV]

Hello armin we sell this bow in our shop ARAB ARCHERY GmbH in Germany with best price 138€

[@sasasasa-lx6cl]

Oh, love it. Got mine from AliExpress in 40 pounds.

[@zachariatekawaare4761]

FYI, a quick scan of the web reveals that Buck Trail bows are made by the Korean bow manufacturer Win & Win.

[@deltaskelta9346]

I have the bucktrail Hayk horse bow in 50# it's a beast

[@qiang2007]

The Buck Trail Hayk is a rebranded AF Tatar bow. It would make sense that the Flint is also a rebranded AF bow. I'd be really surprised if an established company like Win & Win would make a really blatant exact copy of another company's product.

[@qiang2007]

@@Daylon91 It's a rebranded AF bow. It looks exactly like an AF bow all the down to the bow sleeve being exactly the same with the black fabric and single red stripe. It often makes more business sense to rebrand someone else's mass produced product rather than do your own R&D work for a niche market product that is outside of your regular product line. Plus, no reputable company is going to put in the R&D work to make an EXACT duplicate of another company's product. It would make the company an easy target for getting sued. And it also makes no sense from a marketing perspective to keep all the little finish details the same as a competitor. It's not exactly great business sense to put in a bunch of development work to make your product not stand out from the competition in any way.

[@Daylon91]

@@qiang2007 was kind of a dumb question with their same sleeve lol but maybe they use their sleeves only? Probably not

[@pima5033]

​@@deltaskelta9346 hi, are you still happy with this bow? I'm considering buying Hayk 40# and I'd like to hear some honest opinions. I draw 32"

[@Jack_Gatsby]

note taken: eye protection is important to wear when testing unknown quality.

[@j.j.kuiper22]

Nice video!! How much grain per pound would u recommend for 3d competition? (18-50m). Would love to go lower then 10gpp because i want more speed but i dont know how low i can go without damaging the bow or getting bad results

[@ArminHirmer]

With this bow I would not go much lower

[@benjamindahler3710]

Hi im benny herr im wich bow viedio from bucktral varro deutch Hi armin ich bins benny du eine frage kanst du ein viedio machen von den bucktral varro geht das weil finde den echt supper. Wen ja danke

[@jonoedwards4195]

AF for sure, even the sleeves identical!,,, AF rule. You callin Me out Flint? "Yeah I'ma callin Yuu!" Flint ahahaha! Great review, whoopsies on the snap, but ive had two go pop just hanging on der wall. Looking forward to the rest of Your Mail Armin, Rulling Matey, Unreal!

[@sasasasa-lx6cl]

Looks like older version of AF ottoman bows, stock now being sold by resellers like TopArchery. Mine is 40 pounds and very nice.

[@Justin-op8gg]

My 55# has taken a lot of shots and all sorts of tourqu.

[@MiaogisTeas]

Heya mate good to see you back - you know you could upload your videos and schedule them to come out every few days. We're not greedy, it's okay if you want to batch things and have more time with your loved ones 🙏

[@ArminHirmer]

I am aware of that, thank you :)

[@aequipondium691]

I'd like to see a review of the sindh bow by lukasz nawalny if possible.

[@ArminHirmer]

me too!!

[@qg786]

Damn that made me jump. I think bow makers should test each bow of their bows before sending them out.

[@felixrademacher1760]

Well he said "you need to force the bow, this one doesnt want to bent" at this point i was like well it does not seem like a good idea to force the bow to 32 inc.

[@gizmonomono]

@@felixrademacher1760 The bow should still be able to bend. It's only not recommend that you shoot at that draw length. Higher quality bows can bend a lot. This is a sign that the bow is porly made. And it will break on you, pretty fast. If it can't stand being bent, it cant stand the shock of being released either.

[@Ziran54321]

Greetings Felix, The break happened at 28”. Cheers

[@felixrademacher1760]

@@gizmonomono Well i never said that the bow was well made. All I said was If you already notice the bow doesn't bent the way it should be then maybe you should not force it.

[@felixrademacher1760]

@@Ziran54321 true it breaks at the 28 inc. But he said it early and i know how Armin test his bow cause it is always the same way and a good way. Checking the papers checking the draw experience etc. So by the early point in the video I already thought well Armin this could be break. Sorry for doesn't write that more detailed. :D

[@ilcignoeilgrifone]

yes but it broke because you stretched it too much not because the bow sucks .... otherwise the other one would have broken too. the bows stretch within their limits, especially the Turks, otherwise I buy a manchu bow

[@joelerk6298]

Your reviews are awsome. Keep it up!!👍

[@hangtuahjaya5761]

I had this bow before.. overalls this kind of Buck trail bow is ok..but it happens to me like that also..it broke at the limb same like yours...so I give 2/10 for this bow..

[@zachariatekawaare4761]

I had to go back and watch the "duck and cover" move a few times! Your reaction was priceless. I can hardly wait to see what's in the next box. Kia mihi, as always, for doing the hard work and posting such informative and entertaining videos.

[@jonoedwards4195]

Hahahha, Duck an Cover was such a successful Psy-Op, keeping generations worried about the Boogieman, Ordo Ab Chao.

[@Burboss]

This bow looks like copy of AF Archery Turk

[@ArminHirmer]

the early ones

[@othmanismail2988]

I already bought the bow..

[@romanstaniszewski1030]

WHAT IS THE BEST 30 POUND RECURVE CLASSIC LOOKING BOW ON A BUDGET THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND ? I GOT 60 AND IT'S NOT GOOD TO PRACTICE WITH . I HAVE NO BACK YET 4 IT LOL

[@ArminHirmer]

What do you mean with classic?

[@romanstaniszewski1030]

@@ArminHirmer Well old school wood medieval like primitive . I'm getting interested in archery . I could use advice pointing me in right direction . And I would like that primitive bow to be short . Long bows aren't my thing . Lastly I would like to hang it next to my sword collection so I'm looking for esteticly pleasing specimen .

[@macendy1]

Hi Armin. Thank for the great video. I am currently shooting #50 Oak Rigde Sada. I would like to get some #50 turkish bow, and do not feel like paying for the Végh bow at the moment. I only shoot slavic at 28 inch. Can this bow fine in this case?

[@ArminHirmer]

will be fine

[@macendy1]

@@ArminHirmer thank you for the reply

[@robsarchery9679]

Hope you are all right.

[@paulbodart8793]

My buck trail hayk 35# broke after 2 week.. Don't understand

[@robsarchery9679]

Great looking bows again.

[@lkjhgfdsayxcvbnm]

I already thought at the beginning "hmmmm looks like the metis, delamination for sure" aaaaannd yep, as expected. Have the Bucktrail Metis myself and it began to crack at exactly the same spot (the glue holds but the wood cracks near the edge). Fixed it with two components epoxy glue and works astonishingly well. But its a week bow, wouldn't do this on a stronger one O.O

[@naylisyazwina6836]

4:05 The cat at the back is so cute. This looks like a nice bow to have in the future

[@epone3488]

So scary when they DL. At least not while you were drawing.

[@SuePZZ]

Thanks for the warning on the thumbnail, Armin. Another not fit for purpose bow!

[@sebastianmaliszewski9036]

hey Armin, i got buck trail hayk from shop in my country, it was amazing to shoot but it broke same way like yours (only in mine it was bottom limb).

[@lebondave4377]

Wahoo too much special effects in this video!!!! Hope you are fine Armin :)

[@markgibbens437]

That could have been painful. I stood next to someone who had a English longbow blow up on him, he ended up in hospital with 5 stitches in his forehead, at least laminate bows don't shatter.

[@steveg8322]

Self bow addict,never seen it happen in decades of shooting, but I certainly believe you!

[@SuePZZ]

My friend's laminate AFB shattered and cut him above the eye.

[@markgibbens437]

I think it was down to ignorance on how to store a self bow eg not in a central heated room

[@notapplicable531]

Depends on what the laminated materials are. Horn in Korean hornbows can shatter into splinters that go flying. I had my second hornbow do just that with one piece of horn leaving a two cm long cut about the same distance below my left eye. That's my personal experience. I've seen two other occasions when this has happened with no injuries. One archer now wraps bands of serving along the limbs of his bows so that any splinters from a breakage will be caught in the wraps.

[@Daylon91]

I had that same feeling "the bow doesnt want to bend" with one of my pvc bows. I didnt test out the piece before I made it into a bow and yep it exploded in my face. Great review as always and I like a good surprise for my birthday. Cheers

[@bigernbladesmith]

It always gets my heart racing when a bow fails. Scary stuff. Glad you weren't hurt.

[@richardquick826]

i jumped out of my chair when that bow broke

[@Testacabeza]

Awful. That seems dangerous.

[@razvanudroiu6242]

I have one in 40 pounds, still ok after one year. Safe draw is 30 inch, not 32, that's why they should put a litlle description in the box. But then again a turkish bow is ment to draw 30 inch max, it is not a manchu nore a yumi

[@ArminHirmer]

same length bow from other Chinese companies is stated with max draw 32. but when it brakes at 28" its a bit too sort, even for a Turkish bow :D

[@terryevaluation4039]

No mention here that the lighter bow was supposed to be 30@28 but measured at 25.4@28.(roughly 15% variation). I'd say there were serious quality control issues on both bows!

[@jme104]

You're not in the wood to see where it will fail . You can choose a heavier (stronger?) wood and hope for the best . But they don't use that kind of wood for those cheap bows .In addition, turkish bows should not be drawned more the 30" .

[@ColetteNoir]

OMG....I am glad you are ok!!!! Please take care!

[@adriaanvandenberg5013]

Turkish bows are very snappy, but this bow simply snapped. I'm glad I didn't bought the Flint or the Hayk with my 33" drawlength but went for a bow that I knew would handle a really long draw. Stay safe and be careful Armin!

[@adriaanvandenberg5013]

@R Keen I got the Alibow Tang Dunhuang long, look for any alibow that can handle 32 + inches like the Kheshig

[@averose8413]

found it, i like how you just continue shooting

[@RonnyHiess]

Hallo Armin, welchen Pfeil (spine + spitzengewicht) würdest du für einen Flint mit 25lps nutzen? Benutze den Bogen eher für kurze Distanzen von 6- maximal 20 m. Zur Zeit schieße ich einen Carbonpfeil mit einem 500spine (den hatte ich eben hier;-), doch wirklich passend scheint mir der Pfeil nicht. Und Danke für das Video. Hab den Bogen hier von Bucktrail schon einige Zeit im Auge gehabt. Kurz vom Kauf hatte ich den Impuls nochmal zu schauen ob es ein Video zu dem Bogen gibt. Jep, von dir, very nice. Der Bogen hat was

[@ArminHirmer]

Hi. Mit Daumentechnik würde ich die Pfeile nehmen. 3 Finger braucht wohl 800spine

[@muhamadoc1206]

How about 45# sir..?

[@sheepuswoolius]

Armin, you should get some bubble wrap and a helmet.

[@jenjen7728]

😂😂😂

[@eliecitsampayo4316]

Hi armin, how much do you sell me one of those?

[@ArminHirmer]

120 Euro, just have the 30# left

[@eliecitsampayo4316]

@@ArminHirmer do you have shipments to Colombia?

[@ArminHirmer]

@@eliecitsampayo4316 I can ship there, yes

[@eliecitsampayo4316]

@@ArminHirmer I just wrote you on your Facebook page, to negotiate the bow I want to buy

[@janwestphal8047]

Split happens.

[@VladMcMerlin]

"In flint we trust" ))

[@gopaloding]

Alhamdulillah

[@josephad9242]

Is the 30# still alive or is it broken by now?

[@ArminHirmer]

30# works like a charm, soon in a comparison :)

[@incorporeal3793]

Was that a dry glue joint failure or did the timber tear?

[@ArminHirmer]

I guess the glue

[@pankajgandhi1193]

Oh no! Hope you okay!

[@vaportrail226]

Range Cat!!!

[@ericalbert6954]

Merci 😎🙏

[@gizmonomono]

I really feel like you wanted them to be good. I think a laminated bow is not something you should buy on a budget. Go for fiberglass with the same value. Thanks for the review, Armin.

[@danielbarnes6873]

Fiberglass is laminate so what do you mean ?

[@gizmonomono]

@@danielbarnes6873 Not necessarily. Fiberglass, or carbon can be a layer in a laminated bow. But you can also have a fully fiberglass bow. They are much more durable, but heavy, and not as effective.

[@Rosie_posie962]

Hi sir

[@-fazik-3713]

Do not overdraw the bows ;).

[@MiaogisTeas]

31 is ok, but 32 is overdrawn? Hmm...

[@-fazik-3713]

​@@MiaogisTeas Yes, there will be a failure limit of the design in every single bow out there. In this particular one it was 32.

[@tammynfletcher]

@@-fazik-3713 no one check video again it made to 28" then failed not 32"

[@-fazik-3713]

@@tammynfletcher after overdrawing it to 30 10:43

[@tammynfletcher]

@@-fazik-3713 my friend you are probably correct I didn't notice that but I did notice how out of tiller it looked on the first couple shots did you happen to notice this also

[@visamedic]

Man I’m sorry, I hate it when free weapons back up on my door step. Next time just forward your address to my house. 🤓

[@ArminHirmer]

free?

[@visamedic]

Ok. Either way you get to play with them then sell them, right? 😁

[@madcaddies01]

For those of you, wondering to get the 30 or 35 lbs version: don't buy that product, mine cracked today (first day of shooting), not even in full draw, i was just walking in the garden, gathering my arrows and baaaam - glue came off... speaking of glue, the leather is also not glued properly, came off as well - just a warning

[@ArminHirmer]

We have a few and they work well but as said quality control is poor and one can get a bad copy