Armitage International Skorpion Scarab 9mm

[@YouCaughtCzars]

What a fantastic piece of equipment! The Jeep, I mean.

[@Psiberzerker]

"What you talkin bout, Willys?"

[@BCBoost420]

Lol agreed

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Yeah, it's the worst gun I've ever owned. And no, I didn't do a video on the Jennings, and probably won't in the future.

[@Y34RZERO]

Both terrible guns. I wonder if it's a bad thing that I want one just because of their horrible reputation...

[@offdeadeye88]

It’s the worst gun you’ve ever owned-so far

[@thisisabsolutelystup]

Six years later Still waiting for the Jennings

[@asdasd-ty9se]

Give us a Jennings video Ian!

[@gatshicenteri]

I bought a Jennings to frame and hang on the wall

[@ExUSSailor]

Some weapons are best left forgotten.

[@flyingninja1234]

Anon Nymous - They are interesting though.

[@CreepyPastaSalad]

Zip22: "Finally! A worthy opponent!"

[@dalekrueger1175]

A TEC-9 would be another, had 2 wouldn't pay scrap price for one

[@wildcard600]

the drive by segment had me cracking up. Love that old Willys.

[@paulfabrique5055]

Interestingly, there is a famous company in the UK called "Armitage" that make makes toilets and urinals. They are still in business though, so there the similarity ends.

[@agoogleaccount2861]

What a turd of a gun

[@SamnissArandeen]

Both are full of shit.

[@sirderailer2056]

The largest art museum in Saint-Petersburg is called Armitage.

[@carlkamuti]

Didn't they produce offensive weapons for prisoners, though?

[@AshleyPomeroy]

@@carlkamuti I understand this pun.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Yes, there are some pretty nice semiauto conversions of the real vz61, and I'll definitely be doing a video on them (and the full auto version) eventually.

[@clevelandjames4740]

Its a pretty firearm

[@ema_rem]

4:52 "It's not like there's anything that could go wrong and fire accidentally on this" I think you'd be hard-pressed to make the Scarab fire intentionally, let alone accidentally...

[@WAQWBrentwood]

I was thinking that too! "safest" gun on earth! LOL!

[@calvinplumley4394]

It always blows me away that this came out the year I graduated highschool. He was just some weirdo on youtube shooting crap guns in the desert and now he has all kinds of connections and a book, like an actual professional. It's been really cool watching the quality of videos improve by leaps and bounds and to watch him just succeed.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

It's a total parts salad - a 46 2A frame with a 3A/CJ-V35U body and a flathead 6 cylinder engine from a '54 Studebaker. Stockwheels, axles, tranny and tcase, but all rebuilt. And, of course, a mount on the rollbar for a 30/50 pintle for a Browning or Vickers. :) Eventually I'll get it painted!

[@samrussell4065]

Quite an achievement to take a simple, reliable and effective gun, copy it and produce a bludgeon. Did someone sober actually take the first model, use it on the firing range (presumiably to nail up a target) and said: 'that'll sell!'

[@Sid_Black]

Aint that the same way they make almost everything else these days ? Why would you take something that works and copy it in a way that it will keep on working ? You need to make stuff that is cheap shit so it will break down. Otherwise noone would buy your other products or spare parts. Thats why everyone should keep the oldest guns and cars you can get a hold on. You can fix a lot yourself AND it is not made to break down after some weeks/months.

[@samrussell4065]

In other words, we are looking at a form of inverted genius: most people would find it almost impossible to copy such a simple, reliable design and produce a heap of junk. These people must have really worked at it, with precision and determination. I hope they didn't branch out into other precision areas, like heart monitors...

[@bodyno3158]

I just can't understand why they can fail on a blowback 9mm, it's literally the most simple thing to design.

[@ToastyMozart]

Wow, it's Murphy's Law personified as a handgun.

[@amperzand9162]

+ToastyMozart Hahaha, too true.

[@dwb345]

Gangster Ian should be in more videos

[@SgtKOnyx]

Doug Bolster "it's a Jennings!"

[@kmech3rd]

Looked this up after the new video showing the real deal Czech 9mm. You've come a long way, Ian.

[@michaelking8483]

who else laughed when ian tried to be gangster

[@ludditeneaderthal]

the jennings was a great touch though... gave him "ghetto authenticity" ca. 1983, even if a running suit in a bold primary color might have been a better costume choice (and a kangol, of course)... don't forget the adidas

[@AldanFerrox]

The alternative to the Jennings would've been a Lorcin

[@ludditeneaderthal]

AldanFerrox you do know they're the same, right? bryco, jennings, lorcin, all the same exact company, reorganized every time it got closed down for being a direct conduit to the gang armories (because everybody there is a cholo banger, lol)

[@AldanFerrox]

ludditeneaderthal I knew that the founder of Lorcin was a high school friend of the owner of Raven Arms.

[@edwardteach3000]

Peacemaker always nice to see another cinamasins fan

[@MrMortull]

I know basically nothing about firearms, but as soon as Ian started struggling to get the mag to fit correctly I knew we were in for hilarity.

[@Cypherwraith001]

It's such a safe pistol that it won't even fire half of the time.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

I had a pretty good idea what I was getting into as soon as I laid eyes on the thing... :)

[@clevelandjames4740]

I ♥♡ Skorpion Scarab 9mm, Skorpion VZ61, Intratec 22 and Tec 9

[@BadatchH]

That drive by clip was hilarious

[@JamesPawson]

Funniest episode of Forgotten Weapons ever.

[@deathpyre42]

+Matan Pulverman So many mechanical failures in so little time, rather comical.

[@ZGryphon]

Later surpassed by the High Standard 10B, IMO: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3mYi2yroqufsM0

[@Tunkkis]

That drive by scene was absolute gold!

[@usmc43]

i'm more impressed that you NEVER EVER flinch. Top notch shooting. Love your vids and am envious as hell of your collection

[@allanstott6999]

This made me smile. Great vid as ever Ian and team. Allan.

[@adrienperie6119]

This gun should be made standard issue for all armies in the world to stop all wars.

[@Wavemaninawe]

Troops could still hurt each other by throwing it though. Ian claimed that it was quite heavy.

[@liquidocelot5976]

How many of the 600 made were not destroyed by their angry owners

[@breeki9985]

Too many, some things need to be erased from history.

[@fien111]

Greater-than or equal to one

[@ProtonChicken]

Gangster Ian is to edge for me m8

[@performingautopsy3013]

that shit was funny

[@honestly108]

Apparently spelling "too" is also far too edgy.

[@lamename5290]

AeroAtlas are you easily offended by someone using the word edgy incorrectly?

[@sapper_5126]

AeroAtlas bro that's so edgy that you're offended by people using the word edgy. Literally you're so edgy you're offended by edgyness

[@hanktorrance6855]

Love the sense of humor and real life demo of reliability!

[@evilassaultweaponeer]

IV8888 showed us that in gangster use, a Hi-Point is far more accurate when thrown.

[@maxwellihm5373]

At least Hi-point guns will actually shoot.

[@taylorphillips5203]

max ihm the one time where the reliability of the hi-point beats out another firearm

[@evilassaultweaponeer]

Taylor Phillips Actually, they are pretty damn reliable. Again, check out IV8888's vids on the handgun; the results are surprising.

[@taylorphillips5203]

Oh yeah, when he broiled it one time, and froze it another. I remember those vids. Do you think that the cheap magazines are causing the feeding problems with alot of these pistols?(For instance, this one here? I noticed that he was having a hard time pushing the magazine in, wouldnt that cause some issues?)

[@evilassaultweaponeer]

Taylor Phillips Quite possible.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Yep, pretty much. Until I got it, I wasn't sure how far the Skorpion similarities went, and I was curious about that.

[@dabbgk]

Hey Ian, of all the millions of KZbin channels out there, yours is my favorite to watch!

[@steveward6391]

I bought one of these Scarab Skorpion's a few week ago. In an attempt to gain information on the gun I did a Google search and found your review. I was very disenchanted to say the least after seeing it. When I had a chance to shoot it I experienced similar feed issues. I finally realized it was the magazine, not the gun. If you take the magazine after it's fully loaded and give it a couple light taps (floor plate to palm) it fires perfectly. It's not my Sig 228, but it's a fun gun to shoot.

[@jonathanhudson4623]

Seems like the perfect ghetto blaster. What's funny is I actually had a collection of 3 tec9 hand guns at one time. 2 fullsize and one shorty and all 3 worked flawlessly. I sold the shorty and the one I shot the most and I still have the one that came with all of it's original paperwork and box. It's been fired a total of 74 times since it was bought new in 1994 before the clinton ban. It's never once had any failures. To be honest the shorty did have problems when I got it but it was magazine related and a previous "gunsmith" put a fullsize tec9 recoil spring in it. I modified the spring and used the other magazines to find out the exact specs for the feed lips for the shorty's magazine and bent them back into the proper position and it worked perfectly after that. One major issue with tec9 guns is they are made for nato spec 9mm rounds which most commercial loads just aren't as hot and lack the prussure/power to get them to cycle properly. Great video, funny, and informative. If I was going to find a scorpion clone I'd get an actual clone of one but I just don't see myself bother with a 32acp clone of a machine pistol. They are an interesting piece of history but they just won't find a place in my collection.

[@klaasvaak-fw7yx]

7:15 that shell tho

[@giklab]

Re-watching this and I just noticed it myself. Pretty hilarious

[@trollguy3339]

Lol

[@chrthiel]

I guess some weapons are forgotten for reason...

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Heh...sorry about the name! The gun actually doesn't smell much at all, just a whiff of rancid oil. I still haven't taken the time to really clean it. :)

[@iridescentgreen]

You're forgetting one of the best aspects of this gun: for a semi-auto, you can really make your ammo last a long time at the range:)

[@Targetpopper]

Great video. Would be interesting to find a magazine with the same angle as the one in the video and modify them accordingly to fit. This is a good example for all aspiring manufacturers... test your product, and once you're happy with it, test it again!

[@louisimisson9065]

Best drive-by ever, CJ and the crew are taking notes 👌

[@Gojiro7]

the true brilliance of this weapon is you go into a fight waving it around and trying to shoot anyone, all your enemies will fall over and will have no choice but to surrender from laughter

[@ForgottenWeapons]

It makes a great impact weapon...

[@wilmafingerdoo4120]

You should make a playlist of every crappy gun you've reviewed

[@markbrown6444]

Luckily for you, he has now! Simply labeled, The BAD.

[@DanNoThanks]

@@markbrown6444 Don't forget "The UGLY"

[@Ratzfourtyfour]

OMG, how did they ever sell a single piece of those, their marketing department must have been geniusses.

[@jeffhoward9186]

Funny video, awesome throwing the gangster Ian into the video with a Jennings 9. Both weapons would probably do more damage being thrown than trying to get them to fire.

[@slowhand1198]

Thank you. The Czechs really put together some quality hardware.

[@AmoebicMagicMan]

This was GREAT! The gangster shootout had me laughing my ass off!

[@MUCKLEECH]

Same here, what a great episode!

[@GoddessOfMisfortune]

Saw one of these at my local shop just the other day, with a cobray suppressor fitted. I'm impressed at how poorly this gun functions, but it's absolutely charming in its failures!

[@DiverEngrSL17K]

Probably the best semi-automatic ( civilianized ) version of the original military-issue vz.61 Skorpion that you can get in the United States is the vz.61 manufactured by Czech Small Arms ( CSA ), formerly D-Technik, of the Czech Republic, from unissued ( unused ) vz.61 parts kits. It is imported by Czechpoint-USA of Knoxville, TN and is available in the original 7.65mm Browning ( .32 ACP ) caliber as well as .380 ACP.

[@rgmolpus]

A very safe pistol! Strong trigger lock, and it jams so much that it's almost harmless!

[@DiverEngrSL17K]

As a follow-up to my previous comment, there is a very good video on the Czechpoint web site demonstrating the controllability and accuracy of the vz.61, even without a buttstock. They are also the U.S. distributors for CSA / D-Technik vz.58 rifles, vz.52 pistols, Alfa-Proj revolvers, accessories and other firearms-related items. I have two CSA / D-Technik vz.58's, and I have to say that they are my all-time favorites in the assault rifle class. Hope this helps a bit.

[@LUR1FAX]

Man, a cameo appearance from Ian McHoodlum!

[@AakeTraak]

Perfect for home defence.

[@hansthurfjell]

And ray was never heard from since

[@hansthurfjell]

that made me chuckle, oh wait, you cant make that POS work, youd basically have to rebuild it from scratch with better machining

[@kilIstation]

When your gun jams before you shoot it

[@faustgeist]

I just picked one of these up with the front 'suppressor'. In the video you suggest yours was manufactured in Florida, your descriptions indicates South Carolina, while my gun is engraved with "Armitage Int. Ltd out of Toccoa, Georgia". Did the company move around that much? :) No test firing of mine yet for reliability. For those interested my lower, false suppressor and front leather strap are all stamped withe the name and visual of Scarab, while the upper is parkerized the rest is blue.

[@swedisagnostic]

Loved it, best video on youtube I have watched in a long time. That was funny as hell. Thank you.

[@LJVolkov21]

9:24 Nah, man, just keep doing your thing. All of your videos are awesome! :D

[@ludditeneaderthal]

honestly, this "nightmare" actually just looks like that mag is the culprit, and a gentle app of spot check and sand paper could well transform performance to "somewhat more acceptable" (which, even if it rendered it entirely inoperable, would arguably not really "mess it up", lol). think about it, the mag is nice bendy polymer, and basically has to be driven into the well. that means at least one dimension is getting shrunken, while that at 90 degrees distorts. as that is right below the feed lips, you end up with the combined joys of "squirrely feed lips" and "dented mag friction" (that, of course, will immediately disappear when the mag is OUT, as the "squeeze" is no longer there). now, whether the fault is the mag well, or just the basic pez dispenser early mag dimensions (which determines who goes for a trim) would probably require careful consideration before just breaking loose with a dremel, or bridgeport

[@martinrps13]

I was able to get one on gunbroker but it didn’t come with a mag. They are a little different than the Cobray mags because the side that the catch on is thicker and sticks out more. I eventually found one of them so I am happy.

[@cookiesmoke7596]

What kind of mag did u use

[@martinrps13]

@@cookiesmoke7596 I was originally going to use metal M-11/9 mags and just weld on a tab to make them work but never did that. I just ended up finding many of the factory mags on gun broker. I still haven’t shot the gun yet though. You have one of the guns?

[@cookiesmoke7596]

@@martinrps13yes I have one that’s a leinad 9mm skorpion same one as the video but I couldn’t find a mag I read online that it had to be a m11 mag modified but I actually took a Glock 33round stick mag and sanded it down to fit nice and perfect so it feeds and ejects perfectly but I still have shot it or tried it yet haven’t had time but I do know it pass the function test

[@martinrps13]

@@cookiesmoke7596 the feed angle of that Glock mag works in the scorpion? Seems like the angle would make the bullets not go into the chamber. I really need to shoot mine. I am sure it will be a frustrating experience!

[@cookiesmoke7596]

@@martinrps13 same here bud but if my calculations are correct it should work good fingers crossed because this is a rare gun even tho it malfunctions a lot from what I seen

[@iamtheonewhoyoulove]

this video deserves all the likes of all of youtube

[@samuelwashburn6486]

I was not expecting this to go where it did.

[@Psiberzerker]

Oh wow. .41AE, blast from the past, man. Far out!

[@felixraithel9055]

Man what a cool video, didn't know Ian has qualities as an actor :)

[@Chebva]

I wish he did more like this. He is a good with comedy.

[@KeatonEggleston]

I love your channel and appreciate the effort you put into your work.

[@Bird_Dog00]

This was hillarious. By the time this gun was made, self-loading guns have been made for a 100 years. How in hell did they still manage to fuck it up?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

No, it was a round that misfed and just fell out of the mag - not a possible hangfire.

[@classdpersonnel115]

watching this 9 years later and seeing Ian dressed up as a hoodlum is hilarious

[@erikbogerman2048]

Ian, enjoyed the whimsy. top notch.

[@wallaroo1295]

This has to be one of your funniest videos Ian!

[@dposcuro]

Heh, a Studebaker flathead six, much respect. Glad it's not "just another SBC." But it looks good, and it seems like you are enjoying it immensely, which is the best thing. I have a longing desire for a flat fender or a Suzuki LJ-series. Just so much character.

[@TheMainelogger]

I love the part where you toss the pistol LOL, I bought an ACTION ARMS AP-9 back in the 90's and if I got 2 or 3 rounds to actually fire from the 30 or the 50 RD.Mags I was more than lucky

[@ajeje1996]

People who play guitars with picks will feel right at home with this gun

[@sheenufilms]

If a Cobray Mac-11/9 and a Vz.61 Skorpion made love, this is what you get.

[@gabrieltoupin8969]

I wish Ian made more video with characters impersonation 😂

[@abramelinomago516]

Man, I just love Gangster Ian. Too funny!

[@themischeifguide]

We need more stuff like this.

[@CPHannigan]

Sounds like a fun project gun. I wouldn't mind tinkering around with one myself.

[@Jesses001]

If I see one of those cheap sometime, I may pick it up. I think with a lot of work, I can get it to actually work. The two main problems I saw was a feeding issue, and a fitting issue. There was far to much friction in the bolt. I like a challenge.

[@Tom15Hilly]

Give this man an Emmy!

[@viewsandreviews180]

This was a great video about a weapon that could end all wars (Seriously, would you want to depend on this gun?) I figure if every gun was made to this standard we would still be using muskets (much more reliable) Thank you for brightening up my day.

[@jacksuquett1191]

I think yours is just jacked up! Mine worked perfect everytime I played COD.

[@CyberSoldat]

+jack suquett Because the ones in COD are real Skorpion's not shitty Scarabs lol.

[@madhellsing]

+ShmotzGaming They give a innocent scarab a bad name

[@l2a3sterling]

A nice Jeep hood provides nice contrasting background.

[@LittlepipActual]

Ian's humor is the best....

[@Wabaanimkii]

Great video. entertaining too. I'm curious as to why the straight blowback design seems to get so screwed up by so many companies. They have books on how to make reliable blowback tube guns at home using handtools and yet a reasonably well funded and well tooled company just screws it right up.

[@wadefret1286]

perfect delivery "we needed to get one in its native environment, so we had to do a drive by shooting"

[@Jesses001]

Maybe, but I am sure the experience would help sharpen my gunsmithing skills a good deal. My DC-99 I got running sure is fun to shoot, even though I would not pick it for my sidearm in combat.

[@bmouch1018]

oh my god. gangster Ian

[@cherokid]

Hahahaha, great review. The real scorpion is actually a pretty sweet little machine pistol. I think the originals were in a 32 caliber but not sure. In Bosnia during the 90s they were very popular as back up guns. Anyway, thanks again.

[@jdclineful]

About 12 years ago I was an idiot and traded into one of these...had to take a mallet to clear the round after each shot...worst gun I've ever owned/shot/seen. Glad it's been documented somewhere. :)

[@Tekdruid]

Fascinating. So it is possible to make a very simple mechanical design that still manages to fail on pretty much every conceivable level. Well, they tried. To ride the coattails of the real Skorpion's reputation that is.

[@thedude1671]

Ha! I didn't expect the skit at the end. I wanted to know though, what makes the AI Skorpion jam so often? Did they somehow manage to screw up the design of a blowback weapon, or is the build quality just awful?

[@highvelocity6529]

very funny gun. it takes 2 hours to discharge only one magazine. I love your channel and learn too much about weird firearms. well done brother.

[@summerleeye588]

8:18 i laughed and now my corona extra is on my desk..thank you ian for making this

[@KatHairz]

You're a funny guy Ian. I like you. That's why I'm going to watch you last.

[@yeyito3676]

hahaha awesome video! very educational! very fun to watch!!! great ending XD hope to keep seeing more vids Ian, ive seen pretty much the whole channel now XD Cheers from Puerto Rico

[@orangealiens8201]

I love when the guys says rolling at the start 😂

[@1982rrose]

How did I miss this one? That was funny.

[@jbeers1234]

Holy crap this is peak Ian acting right here. Ian the Cholo for President 2024!

[@anotherspambot1363]

God I love it when Ian tries really shitty guns lol.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Heh...not a chance.

[@juarezezez]

I hate to necro a comment thread, but: have you tried using different combinations of lube? perhaps some froglube? A buddy of mine had a pistol of dubious manufacture that had tons of problems, he froglubed it and it worked great... until the slide broke (unrelated issue).

[@ForgottenWeapons]

juarezezez My solution was to sell it. :)

[@Tuton25]

who was the poor sucker who bought it?

[@deathpyre42]

+Forgotten Weapons To be fair, even the name implies that it's a crappy gun.

[@cosmonaut379]

I was having a problem with lube for my pistol try switching to a silicon vs a water based lube, it seems to work much longer

[@deathpyre42]

***** Bacon grease would stink to high heaven after a while though.