Armour 104 - Kinetic Armouring Tutorial, From the Depths

How To Get Shot At Correctly, Round Four...
Armour 101: • Armour 101 - Armour Tu...
Armour 102: • Armour 102 - Armour Bl...
Armour 103: • APS Tetris #1: 1m Load...
The Armour Tutorial Playlist: • From the Depths - Armo...
Time Stamps:
0:00 - Ze Beginning
0:23 - Introduction to 'Kinetic Armouring'
1:04 - Hitpoints are more important than Armour!
2:39 - Simple Hitpoints Efficiency Formula
5:56 - Example: Wood vs. Metal
8:26 - Slopes and Wedges
9:29 - Slope Damage Reduction Formula
12:27 - Super-Thump Hollow-Points
14:04 - Spaced Armour vs. Hollow-Point
15:18 - Thumper Missiles
17:23 - An Acceptable Time to Spam Heavy Armour
20:13 - The Wonders of the New ERA
21:00 - Le What?
22:03 - Le What Again?
24:40 - ERA Kinetic-Proofing
26:06 - ERA: Direct Hits Required
26:51 - ERA vs. CRAM (Doesn't Work)
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Dan Lebowitz - Birds in Flight
Dan Lebowitz - Hickory Hollow
Dan Lebowitz - Parkside
Dan Lebowitz - The Opening
Dan Lebowitz - Wave in the Atmosphere
Dan Lebowitz - Forgiven Fate
Dan Lebowitz - Lost & Found
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[@8cto289]

Who would win?: A ginormous missile that does over a million thump damage and costs over 600 materials to make Or: One reactive boi worth 5 materials

[@Tehn00bA]

People used that so much as pillows on decorations that it got it's softness and make missles bounce back. XD

[@DarkKinou]

Might have been warhead activation delay + the missile doesn't have enough time to fully accelerate.

[@Frostbyte00]

@@DarkKinou The missile’s thump damage doesn’t propagate because the block it hit is now broken and as such can’t spread its damage

[@DarkKinou]

@@Frostbyte00 The era block isn't broken, the missile is just pushing against it. It happens with any block if the relative speed between the target and the missile is low enough. The empyrean (GT) does that a lot.

[@Frostbyte00]

@@DarkKinou wdym by “pushing against it”? The era block gets destroyed (synonymous for the definition of broken I used in my first reply) because it’s used up by the missile impacting it

[@hell_march6652]

22:06 Huge thumper missile: Imma end this mans career Gandalf the ERA block: YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!

[@dreekfire721]

Ayyy! Wedge armor is finally getting the recognition it deserves. People thought it was crazy until it started showing up in campaign craft. Damn kids don't want to eat their wedgetables. On another note, damage reduction from angle also applies to the blocks behind the slope unless there's an airgap in between, so you can have wedges backed by a wall of beams. Wedge armor also redirects HESH fragments sideways when it hits directly.

[@ProtoAzula]

I have applied this theory in almost all of my ships, but more against deflecting AP shells away from my valuable components, or at least in theory

[@sampletext5959]

I actually have my own armor layout that I call the “plywood method.” Basically, what I do is place the metal so that horizontal beams are on the outer layer, while vertical beams are on the inner layer. It’s based on the Roman Scutum shield, which uses crossed planks of plywood to make it unable to be cut “along the grain.” An unintentional side effect is, when hit by a large torpedo, a disturbingly-circular hole is left in the hull. Looked pretty cool to see that air pockets save lives, though!

[@BorderWise12]

That's generally called 'cross-hatching' and it has only minor benefits in FtD, unfortunately.

[@r4lf847]

Did i mention that Mr. Borderwise has an soft an relaxing voice, long story short its perfect for going to sleep

[@maoaus3667]

Yeah, just like my math teacher

[@r4lf847]

@@maoaus3667 the Question is is Borderwise your math teacher?

[@r4lf847]

Coz his math formulars are not bad xD

[@maoaus3667]

Hmmmmm. You might be onto something here xd

[@fluffybunny7089]

After getting a new computer I realized this game will just keep getting better. One day large scale battles with no lag will be possible. For now I'll settle on 3 megs vs 3 singularities with some lag.

[@kingsavage2272]

Negative Chief. This game is not optimized in that regard. Many of the physics calculations cannot be parallelized, and that means that until we get like 2x+ single thread performance the game will be just as poopy. I've got a 2700x and the fame only uses 4/8 of my 8/16 an it utilized them to a max of 43%. I hate to be the bearer of bad news.

[@fluffybunny7089]

​@@kingsavage2272 For sure it could be optimized better. It's still getting better with improved boost clocks though. My 5950 is doing a way better job than my 1800x did.

[@grimloncz3853]

After testing a Singularity vs MEG, I can say stong LAMS = best kinetic defense. Seriously. Only dmg done was by lasers and PACs.

[@BorderWise12]

Yup. Active defenses are better than armour for sure.

[@Daemonworks]

Turns out the best defence is "don't get hit".

[@tomarmadiyer2698]

So in playing ftd, building a hull. I'm still a babby, this is like third hull ever. I scrap initial long canoe idea and load something for inspiration. Barge looks easy enough, let's go battleraft I get a bottom, sides, back, front mocked out. Smoothing the front for hydrodynamics and I'm hammering away at the edges and I'm like OH THIS IS A FLYER TOO Then i look at the top down view, notice the side angling This is a GAVIN!!!!!

[@snowy2703]

Hey Border!! Been a while for me, glad to see the awesome content is still here. Keep it up man!

[@BorderWise12]

Cheers! 😁

[@theapexdragon5010]

Keep up the great work!!!

[@BorderWise12]

Thank you, I will! 😁

[@zsdfasdfas]

Omg thanks for that laugh, funniest thing I saw all week! I was just trying to figure out how to defend my forces against Steel Empire's Scythe vehicle which fires large missiles. I think I'll end up going with an ECM jamming craft than spending an exorbitant amount of resources trying to shoot it down Iron Dome style

[@tortugagreen9924]

given how powerful ERA is, I could see a lot of value in weapons designed to clear away ERA for heavier weapons - ie something like an extremely low caliber, high fire rate, relatively low accuracy thumper round, each shell of which will do nothing on hitting an ERA block but remove that block. Something like a frag gun whose shells detonate just short of the target would work a lot better b/c you could clear off multiple blocks per shell, but IDK if there's a way to make that happen reliably.

[@BorderWise12]

Yup yup. Secondary guns are a good idea in general, but that's one of the reasons.

[@jaymorrison2419]

A use for 180 degree frag?

[@epicninja2378]

@@jaymorrison2419 Probably just using the rapid fire (30,40,90 mm) simple weapons is enough.

[@eve_squared]

Every time you make an armor tutorial the intro sounds slightly less enthusiastic than it was the previous tutorial. I thank you for your service to the community. Nevermind I just got to the part where you howled, that genuinely caught me off guard.

[@BorderWise12]

Armor tutorials are curse for me, I swear. They drain my soul out through my feet. ... I completely forgot I did a howl in this one. XD

[@Tehn00bA]

11:50 you're basically cutting bullets with a katana. XD Btw, can you do a tutorial (or at least a comment) on detection sistems?

[@BorderWise12]

Detection systems are a giant pain in the butt to explain. XD Short version is: have a variety of different sensors, and the faster your projectiles are the less speed, range and bearing averaging times they need. Hitscan weapons can get away with 0.1 for all of them, whereas CRAMs need something like 5/3/3.

[@maramanasa]

@@BorderWise12 Huh didnt even know that. So I would need to go in the menu and play around with the settings or just add more sensors to make something like crams work. Also how would that work for interconnected systems like using a drone for targeting data and a ship/base firing away at it.

[@Tehn00bA]

@@BorderWise12 i know they are a pain. I was trying to understand them for 3 days and only managed to get a grip after enabling the detection view. The thing is, because it always predicts the trajectory on a straight line, sometimes less precision ends up being better because it scatter the shots around, so i wanted to see if you could unearth some secret ways that my dumb brain couldn't. XD But thx!

[@jamesscalzo3033]

Loved the video Borderwise! I can now strongly say that the next Carrier build will have 8 SH-60 Seahawk-like Helicopters, 8 E-2 Hawkeye-like Airborne Early Warning Aircraft, 12 F-4 Phantom 2-like Fighter-bombers, 12 F-8 Crusader-like Fighter-bombers, 12 A-6E Intruder-like bombers, and 12 A-7 Corsair 2-like Attack Aircraft. Armed with 12 single mount 127 millimeter (5 inch)/63 Caliber guns, 8 quad mount and 16-24 twin mount 40 millimeter Bofors, as well as 32 Sea Sparrow-like Missiles. Designed with the German "Turtledeck" Armor scheme, they have an overall length of 340 meters, a Beam of 80 meters and a draft/draught of 13 meters and a maximum speed of about 135 knots (155 miles per hour, 69.4 Meters per second) with Four Shafts, Four Steam Turbines. Also, more Replica build suggestions, this time my favorite classes of Battleships and Aircraft Carriers. Battleships: • New York-class (2 ships built, one preserved. Built with 5 twin 14 inch guns. originally from the First World War, they served throughout the second providing Naval Gunfire Support for Amphibious operations like Torch, D-Day, Dragoon, as well as Iwo Jima and Okinawa.) • Nevada-class (2 ships built. Both were at Pearl Harbor when the Japanese Attacked. Nevada was the only ship to have been raised, repaired and taken in hand, and continue her service with the U.S. Navy in The Second World War. 2 Twin and 2 Triple turrets) • Pennsylvania-class (2 ships built, Both were in Pearl Harbor at the time of the attack, Pennsylvania was the only ship to have been raised and repaired being in Dry dock at the time. Her sister Arizona was made into a memorial after the last few surviving crew members drowned when the U.S. Navy attempted to rescue them. Twelve14 inch guns in 4 Triple Turrets) • Maryland-class (3 ships built, First Battleships in the U.S. Navy built with 16 inch guns, albeit in 4 Twin mounts. Maryland and West Virginia were in Pearl Harbor at the time of the attack with Maryland taking moderate damage by two bomb hits and West Virginia sank in shallow water by six Torpedo hits.) • North Carolina-class (2 Ships built, First Modern Battleships in the U.S. Navy since the Preceding Maryland-class back in the 1920's with both ships commissioned shortly after the outbreak of the second world war in the Pacific. North Carolina is the only ship of the class preserved and can be seen at Wilmington, North Carolina. She spent most of the war alongside the USS Enterprise getting her baptism of fire in the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands. Funny thing though is that she had inadvertently helped the Mahan-class Destroyer USS Smith fight fires from a Torpedo Laden B5N2 "Kate" Torpedo Bomber that had Swan-dived right onto the little destroyers bow, just merely by being in front of the destroyer and so the captain of the Smith directed the ship's helmsman into the North Carolina's "Rooster Tails" or her sea spray as all the ships in the USS Enterprise's task force were moving at Flank Speed attempting to remain in formation while the Enterprise continued to steer hard right rudder as her steering gear had been jammed by a downed Val Dive Bomber or Zero Fighter. The ships had 3 Triple mount 16 inch/45 Caliber guns for a barrel length of 18 meters.) •South Dakota-class (4 ships built, same armament as the Preceding North Carolina-class. 2 ships are preserved, the USS Massachusetts at Battleship cove in Massachusetts, and the USS Alabama at Mobile, Alabama. They are the widest ships in the U.S. Navy, probably because they are a bit shorter in length compared to the North Carolina's, 680 feet versus 728 feet 9 inches respectively.) • Iowa-class (4 ships built, Last class of Battleships built for the U.S. Navy. Armed with 3 Triple mount 16 inch/50 Caliber guns for a barrel length of 20 meters. All four ships have seen service post-war in Korea, Vietnam, and the Persian gulf, and are now all preserved. USS Iowa at Los Angeles, California; New Jersey at Camden, New Jersey; USS Missouri at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii; and USS Wisconsin at Norfolk, Virginia.) Aircraft Carriers: •Lexington-class (2 ships built, albeit converted from Battlecruisers planned for the First World War. Lexington (CV-2) and Saratoga (CV-3). Lexington was lost at the Battle of the Coral Sea, Saratoga was used as a target for Operation Crossroads, the atomic bomb tests at Bikini atoll.) •Yorktown-class (3 ships built, Yorktown (CV-5), Enterprise (CV-6), and Hornet (CV-8), Yorktown was lost at the Battle of Midway, Hornet was lost at Santa Cruz, and Enterprise was Broken up/Scrapped in spite of Admiral William "Bull" Halsey's attempts to save her as a floating museum.) • USS Wasp (CV-7) (Built to make use of the remaining 14,700 tons displacement left by the Yorktown-class Aircraft Carriers. At 14,500 tons when completed, she had little to no armor at all. Not surprisingly, she was lost after Damage control efforts failed to contain fires from a spread of Torpedoes from Japanese submarine I-19 as the explosions destroyed the water mains and knocked out her power. Wasp was actually the Testbed for the "Deck edge" Aircraft Elevator featured in the Essex-class.) • Essex-class (24 ships built overall, 18 by 10 meter deck edge Aircraft Elevator on the port/left side which could be lowered to make more hangar space or raised to make more deck parking space. Continued to see service in Korea, Vietnam, and into the late-1980's, early-1990's with Lexington (CV-16) being Decommissioned in 1991. They even acted as recovery ships for the Space Program as well. 4 ships are preserved, USS Yorktown (CV-10) at Patriots Point, Mount Pleasant, South Carolina with the USS Laffey (DD-724); USS Intrepid (CV-11) at New York city, New York; USS Hornet (CV-12) at Alameda, California; and the USS Lexington (CV-16) at Corpus Christi Bay, Corpus Christi, Texas.) Independence-class (Light Aircraft Carrier, built on the hulls of Cleveland-class Light Cruisers. 9 ships built.) Casablanca-class (Escort Carriers, built on Liberty ship hulls. Most famous action was Taffy 3's at the Battle off Samar in the Battle of Leyte Gulf where 6 ships of the class, 3 Fletcher-class Destroyers and 4 John C. Butler-class Destroyer Escorts repulsed the Japanese Fleet with the Battleship Yamato.) I know this was a bit of a read, but I hope I've given you some possible ships to do a replica build of. Like I said in your "Building the USS Alaska #4" Stream/Vod PLEASE be sure to do your research on these ships, also here are conversion formulas for accurate speeds for the ships. 1 knot = 1.15 miles per hour 1 meter per second = 2.233333333 miles per hour Hopefully you can remember this for later! As you say for the end of your videos "Farewell!~"

[@SephirothRyu]

Ring Shield Armoring Tutorial?

[@BorderWise12]

Ok! Short version is 'make big ring, orient it right way, put in armoured box'.

[@adnansabanovic6488]

I absolutely lost it when the missile got stopped that was amazing

[@themecoptera9258]

Anyone know the math on kinetic CIWS? I’m thinking about testing it against the Flak air burst I currently use.

[@LordDratsab]

Kinetic railgun CIWS are much better than Flak if your budget and engines allow for it. However, the most important thing with Kinetic CIWS is accuracy. Do everything you can to increase accuracy (long, single barrel, no base bleeders). Even a small loss in accuracy will drastically reduce your DPS. I went overboard on my most recent ship and replaced the main guns with 125mm CIWSs and did a dual control system so it shoots at ships when there are no missiles or crams. It's the only setup I found that can handle huge missiles and huge torpedoes reliably.

[@themecoptera9258]

@@LordDratsab The real questions are these: 1) how much AP is should I be shooting for? 2) how much damage should I be shooting for? 3) what is the minimum acceptable RPM 4) how much does the gauge matter and what would be optimal? Currently my FLAK system is pretty darn effective, especially against swarms of missiles, but I don’t like how the FLAK interferes with my own interceptor missiles hence the desire to try out kinetic.

[@AridLegion]

@@themecoptera9258 1) 20.1AP 2) The amount of damage that leaves you at 20.1AP 3) Depends on what you're shooting at. Considering an average engagement range of

[@andychan3855]

@@AridLegion How do i stop the CIWS from shooting the crams and missile that already missed my ship? I feel frustrated while the CIWS shooting the missed target and not focus on the one that are incoming

[@AridLegion]

@@andychan3855 I believe you'll want to tweak the 'acceptable miss angle' and its' priority loss function on the AMCC.

[@Loooom555]

Tips on a kinetic rail gun shell 1m?

[@Loooom555]

With 10000 rail draw, no gunpowder

[@Tehn00bA]

I'd say have at least 4 modules. I like to use Heavy head with sabot body and base bleeder. (Since you can compensate the inaccuracy with the rails)

[@victorfrankenstein8005]

Id reccomend using a max length 50mm shell and try to get as much power out the shell using gp as possible then fill in the rest with rails I also reccomend using a heavy head and getting it up to at least 20 ap

[@fenrin49]

oh the safty fuse is preventing it from going off

[@Wheelebarral]

Does explosions transmit through armor? I have an adv cannon turret I made that has two meters thick of metal, applique panel, and heavy armor from out to in. I tested it against the kraken with its usual armor piercing flack rounds. After 3 minutes of taking fire I noticed that the guns stopped shooting. Even when the none of the armor was completely penetrated, the cooling snake leading to the firing piece as severed . Is there a reason for this?

[@BorderWise12]

Explosions aren't supposed to travel through armour, no. But explosions can wrap around blocks a bit, so if your turret is not completely enclosed then HE damage can sneak around armour.

[@Wheelebarral]

@@BorderWise12 That makes sense. Thanks.

[@ILKOSTFU]

20:04 Hilarious! XD

[@irontrident3713]

So. I know this is off topic. But is the discord server a thing? I had been removed from it with no apparent reason other than possible inactivity. I was on a deployment at the time. It was luckily a short one however.

[@BorderWise12]

It got deleted. Mods and I couldn't manage it anymore, sadly.

[@irontrident3713]

@@BorderWise12 I see. It was interesting while it lasted.

[@avi8aviate]

I wonder what ERA does to thumper CRAMs.

[@BorderWise12]

Absolutely nothing, as it turns out. 😅

[@vaelophisnyx9873]

hollow point proof? my 70Km/s 100mm cannon would like a word :3

[@Kieselmeister]

Applique is the French word for application, and has the same Latin root as the English word. It's pronounced Applickay, not App-leek-ay.

[@something3194]

actualy there is no "ay" at the end, the "e" is sillent

[@cheezebagz729]

Just saying having a rapid fire ERA activator gun wouldn’t be a bad idea

[@peterreedstrom2027]

wow 0 comments? better fix that

[@zoltek6507]

Me a F-104S player, did he just say 104..?!?

[@M0oseTacular]

awooo

[@seanarano4754]

yay, fifth!

[@Yaveton]

8:20... How? I am losing my sanity deleting long plates like these

[@BorderWise12]

Press Shift + Delete. 👍

[@Yaveton]

@@BorderWise12 Jesus that was a fast reply! Thx!

[@Yaveton]

@@BorderWise12 Now it's time to try and make armour scheme to withstand my 70k, 4AP, FRAG CRAM...

[@Underb00t]

ERA must be made of soft marshmallows it seems

[@retnyw3928]

Second?

[@ProtoAzula]

Border, im going to prove armour is non-existent against my kinetic shells and the bs gun i made. Its not efficient in any manner, but it is meant for entertainment purposes

[@febbergamming5354]

lol