Army Painter Battletech Paint Starter Unboxing & Review I Speedpaints

[@h.a.9880]

That dry humor about the visual aids cracked me up. It's certainly a neat touch to have BT branded paints, even though it's a bit gimmicky. But I certainly appreciate it and the BT-themed names. Also, never a bad thing to get a brush, a few paints and a basic guide for someone who wants to start out. Makes for a neat gift if a few people pitch in. A starter Lance and a pack of paints like that, I'd be happy.

[@Max-oi4kj]

Ну, для таких как я, неопытных в покрасе, получить готовое решение это значит решить большинство проблем. К тому же, не надо ломать голову над схемами покраса, краски уже подобраны и подписаны. Надо понимать, что BTпереживает ренессанс и в игру вливается много новичков, и этот набор должен был появиться со стартером игры, ну максимум со стартером вторжения кланов.

[@LysThePenguin]

That reminds me opening my first Battletech Box 1991. The Figures were made of cardboard, but i loved them. I´m a fan since 1988. 🙃 Thanks for the Review.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Thanks for sharing!

[@MechanicalFrog]

Great stuff. I remember that Army Painter stated they were going to be re-working their paint pigment density. Hopefully the agitators help as well. Speed Paints work great on Battlemechs.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

So far I'm seeing that speedpaints are easier to get a smooth application and end result over contrast paints and for half the price per bottle. The reactivation concerns as well as durability are solved with varnish but I understand the extra steps are a deterrent to some.

[@lexington476]

Thanks for the conversion of the colors from the box to the actual speed paints, I had most of them to begin with. For once I didn't end up with duplicates 🙂.

[@gundamzeta3447]

6:32 the blue as it says on the tin, is intended to paint the barrels of the PPCs and I think the yellow might be to paint the front of the base to show facing.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

You’re correct in their potential/intended uses, but for a beginner set they aren’t the best colors to include, nor is the army painter yellow much fun to work with.

[@meshuggahshirt]

I've been thinking about a metallic green cockpit for my Skye Rangers unit; Liao Green over metallic looks really good

[@StigmaNYC]

Nice! I started playing August 2022. Been putting off painting my mechs because I really just wanted the right house colors. This is the boxset I’ve been looking for. Thanks for the review.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Welcome to Battletech, we're glad to have you and glad I could help!

[@VFNova]

Okay, I"m really looking forward to the Reactivation Red cockpit demo.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Me too, I kinda just stumbled into it while messing around with the paints.

[@DjornNorthfield]

@@CamoSpecsOnline just getting started. Can't wait!

[@Brithus23]

That Raven looks great! Very glad I stumbled across this! I tried doing a similar scheme for House Hiritsu with Waystone Green over Leadbelcher and the result was honestly tragic. I was turned off from trying again after seeing how poorly my first attempt came out, but I've recently been looking for a Liao scheme I like and happened upon this. Thank you for mentioning the process you used to get that result.

[@theronhatfield8854]

I've been playing with using the speed paints as color filters applied with an airbrush with pretty good effect. I can go back with a slightly damp drybrush and pull any off the hightlights that I don't want there.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Thanks for sharing!

[@jackdeth37]

I painted an old plastic ‘Mech using the Factory Primer and Davion Green. It REALLY came out dark green and not so much olive green per se. Also, it reminded me of a contrast style paint that I saw you using on your Gray Death Legion tutorial. Maybe it was just me but being used to actual paints these were a little different. No worries though and in looking at the dried result it gave the old sucker a camouflaged look! With some proper dry brushing and highlighting it should look pretty cool. And if not, well I’ll just reactivate the paint and wash it off to begin again! Thanks for the review and all your tutorials. They have been a great help to an old Mechwarrior getting back into one of my most favorite games ever!

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

So happy to hear you enjoy the content and that you found it helpful. Contrast/Speedpaints take some adjusting but they really do help a lot of folks out which is great for the hobby and for enjoying the paint process. Welcome back to to Battletech!

[@jamieblacksmith6935]

Lol you got the Urbie herd! Color stampede!

[@michaelkimberling7307]

I might get it eventually but right now I’m just fully stocked

[@mikewenski6269]

Great review, and I love the examples here. The Phoenix Hawk was especially helpful to see.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Thanks! Glad it was helpful!

[@Andrewlik]

While yes the battletech branding is very cool, makes it a great starter for people getting into painting battletech, but are the paints unique or are they just small variants of existing army painter paints that I could get for cheaper? Answered at 2:40

[@shock21_]

This is an important question but it is answered in the video

[@Andrewlik]

@@shock21_ 2:40 found it thank you

[@drunkenfarmerjohn42]

Also, varnishing between layers is a good habit to get into, regardless of paint used.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

If I had a nickel for every time I knocked paint off a raised edge in the middle of a paintjob....It's why I varnish everything now and almost always once at an intermediate point.

[@drunkenfarmerjohn42]

@@CamoSpecsOnline I also do gunpla modelling, so varnish early and varnish often is a way of life.

[@goulvenlagree4104]

Great review. As I have all AP paint and speedpaint,I will not buy it, but I think it's a great product.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Yup, I wouldn't buy the set personally because I have the full range of speedpaints but I'm glad the colors are the same so folks that already have them or just want one or two colors can follow along with the tutorials.

[@warlok363]

I'm brush only guy so the two speed paints I tried (the orc skin and slaughter red) did NOT work for me for my Capellans. I mostly rely on Vallejo Mecha Colors and Army Painter air primer and a few warpaints. I did find that by using the Orc skin speed paint with just a touch of AP Metallic Bright Gold mixed in you can make a neat color for Warrior House Dai Da Chi "gold tinged green" Their trim is black so reactivation wasn't as big of a problem.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

That tip about using metallic gold will be included in the House Hiritsu tutorial so folks can just swap out the metallic color and get another scheme out of nearly the same paints. Glad to hear you got a good result with them on it!

[@Guru_Swami]

Great review, thanks for the video! The primer to me just seems out of place. It would fit well if a mini or two were included, making this a more complete set for someone new to Battletech. Without a mini included here, a tenth paint color rather than the primer would be a better fit.

[@colbyboucher6391]

I mean, the idea is that it's a set of paints for people buying the box sets who might have never painted minis before. That's why it's mostly speed paints.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

I totally agree!

[@CloudCobra22]

High priced visual aids, love it

[@jamieblacksmith6935]

Great channel! I learn a lot from you. Thank you for all the effort you put into these!

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Thanks, we appreciate the kind words.

[@SANSd20]

When is the "reactivation cockpit" tutorial coming out?

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

I'd like to get to working on it in the next couple months, the real life bug got a hold of me during a lot of work training and then the holidays hit. Thanks for asking about them.

[@mehmarcus1995]

Tex is turning up everywhere . . .

[@KT-pv3kl]

if you want to bring speedpaints to the next level you need to try underpainting and zenithal highlights. spray them from below with a dark brown or black and use a grey from 45° on the top with a tiny dusting of white directly from above. for even more pop use a drybrush and get yourself an artist grade heavy body acrylic titanium white.drybrush over the previous zenithal to bring out the edges. then do the regular speedpaints to get the colors you desire and finish with a pinwash to deepen the shadows in the recesses.

[@TheGantus]

👍🏻Great as always🖖🏻

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@HeroesBosses]

Is the new Alpha Strike box set you mentioned going to be a kickstarter? If not, where can you get it?

[@Andrewlik]

Alpha Strike Box Sets i already see in FLGSs and on the catalyst site

[@Kornstalx]

It's already in stores, came out about a month ago.

[@HeroesBosses]

@@Kornstalx Right on - thank you!

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

It's available now through multiple retailers and Catalyst. It's a great set of mechs too!

[@HeadHunterSix]

Sadly, brush on or airbrush are the only means I have to apply primer or varnish. I live in an apartment building and I don't have a basement or patio to spray on - and spraying enamels in this small apartment is not feasible (no, I really don't have space for a spray booth with a ventilator). That said, I'm happy to wait until they get this reactivation issue under control. I'm surprised the speedpaints made it to market with that kind of issue. They've got a lot going for them, but unless you're just slathering it over a mini and leaving it at that, there are times when you'll be painting over previous work. I guess I'll stick to contrast paints for the time being.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

I completely understand, we all have different setups and locations to hobby. Hopefully when AP gets their 2 hour cure speedpaint to market you'll be set with your style of painting and it won't be an issue.

[@ShimmeringSword]

Personally I've never had it be a detriment. Definitely a case where I say try it before you knock it, because I've seen a lot of people preaching how bad speed paints are that have never even used it. On the flip side there are good uses for the reactivation. Great for blending, cockpit jeweling, and battle damage.

[@HeadHunterSix]

@@ShimmeringSword perhaps - but I've already got hundreds of paints and I know my preferred techniques. It's no longer a case of "try it, you may like it" but instead "does it suit the purpose for which I would use it?" And for my own purposes, paint which reactivates as this does is not what I'm looking for.

[@ShimmeringSword]

@@HeadHunterSix yeah if you're doing extensive coats over a speed/contrast paint you're not really using them as intended regardless, so that's a legitimate reason to not use them. Personally I wouldn't make them my main technique either, but sometimes there's a certain color/scheme I have in mind that they'll do well.

[@HeadHunterSix]

@@ShimmeringSword not so much "extensive coats" but things like details, trim, and parts that don't need/use speed paints. I'm sure the "intent" is to speed up painting, not slow it down. Even in this set, for example: Does the average painter apply the metallics first and then try to carefully work around them with the speed paint, or is it easier, faster and more sensible to speed-paint the whole thing and then paint the joints/weapons etc? That's the reason I'd prefer to wait until the reactivation problem is eliminated.

[@djwoolf123]

Agree. This really needed a gray and black.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

At least they're some of the easiest paints to substitute from any range though.

[@TheElevenbit]

Great video. Thank you for the review.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Thanks, happy to share cool BT stuff!

[@WRXSEVEN]

Which primer works best for making the right shade of Marik Purple for the Marik Militia?

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

I prefer an ivory or light grey undercoat with this purple as Marik purple is typically regarded as more of a lighter shade.

[@redbaronsnoopy2346]

Nice . . .

[@shadowofsteel]

Was that Tex from the Black Pants Legion I heard in your intro? Please tell me I'm not the only one who heard that right?

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Indeed, Tex has worked with us on a few projects in the past.

[@greyjedi4794]

I thought that was Tex!!!

[@elijahelizalde4308]

I'm pretty sure, not 100% that the thing that causes the SpeedPaints reactivation is water, I've noticed that any water based medium varnish interacts with it, but oils and enamel medium doesn't seem to cause the reaction even when brushed on, I think it's also why heavier gel medium acrylics are more forgiving than more water heavy formulas when it comes to touch up work

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Well I definitely haven't had any issues with enamel varnish so I'm thinking you're probably correct about water based mediums being the culprit. The new formula for the future speedpaint line that cures after 2 hours will hopefully make this reactivation concern a non-issue for folks. When people say "it's not speedy anymore if I have to varnish..." I just shrug because it's not like contrast paint doesn't take 1-2 hours to completely dry as well so a quick shot of enamel and 30-60 minutes later you're back to painting isn't much difference.

[@r4plez]

there suppose to be no more problem in reactivation on speed paints 2.0

[@drunkenfarmerjohn42]

"I don't encourage people just starting to start with yellow." Me, a masochist: "Let's start with First Canopian Curiaseurs and do a battalion!"

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

As a Canopian convert I empathize but also, there are better yellows out there than this one for those masochists that are undeterred.

[@drunkenfarmerjohn42]

@@CamoSpecsOnline oh, yeah. I use their yellow speedpain or iyanden yellow sontrast followed by a generous drybrush of AP's demonic yellow.

[@guyclegg]

any word when this comes out?

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

None yet, I'll update in future videos if that changes.

[@guyclegg]

@@CamoSpecsOnline you guys rock.

[@SANSd20]

So does this make these the official house colors?

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

They're just good examples that can be used. We have several paint colors listed for the five Great Houses on the website. camospecs.com/articles/how-to/getting-started/

[@SANSd20]

@@CamoSpecsOnline I just noticed that none of them are from The Army Painter.

[@AidzWithAZ]

Does anyone know where I could get the “Reactor Online” opening narration from Tex in isolation?

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Reach out to CSO either on Discord or Facebook and we can get it to you

[@Vanderlingang2552]

When the hell is this coming out lol

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

I know right? Catalyst didn't have a date they wanted to share so I didn't include one in the video in case it was way off. In this time of global delays with production and shipping, I don't blame them but they did say they'll update accordingly.

[@JERRYR708]

Army wash would have given that paint set a great finish.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Agreed, it's a set that needed to be 12-18 bottles and include Dark tone and Strong tone.

[@Mephiston]

Ah okay the metallic included isnt a speedpaint, thats good to know.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Definitely not a speedpaint but it is actually a really good metallic.

[@ccgear4367]

Great look at this. Can I suggest really cutting down on the "music"? It's not necessary and frankly distracting/annoying - it takes away from the hearing your comments.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

I genuinely appreciate the feedback. I’ll adjust the soundtracks to a lower ambient level in future videos as the intent with them is mostly based on the painting tutorials that contain many areas of no voice so it prevents long dead silent areas. That being said it’s never my intent to impede the voice content of the videos.

[@ccgear4367]

@@CamoSpecsOnline Cool, I'm checking out the video for your thoughts so hearing it clearly is important at least for me. Keep up the great work! :)

[@napalmsanctuaryx4129]

Man I gotta stop watching paint videos. I bought $1000 worth of hobby paint over the course of 2 months and it is still not enough.

[@Grabacr]

It's never enough 🤣

[@napalmsanctuaryx4129]

@Grabacr Did your name come from the 8492 Squadron in Ace Combat 5? Just curious.

[@Grabacr]

@@napalmsanctuaryx4129 I see you are a person of culture. Yeah, it is! My account is quite old lol.

[@napalmsanctuaryx4129]

@@Grabacr I play that game all the time. Just got the platinum trophy yesterday on the ps4 version that came with AC7 pre-orders.

[@HeadHunterSix]

I have come to accept that I do not, in fact, collect miniatures. I collect _paint_ , and I buy miniatures so that I have something to do with all the paint. 😄

[@bad-people6510]

Gonna pass. I don't really go in for speed paints for these. I very prefer base coats and washes. Also no black.

[@DrewTriebe]

Your initial focal length was too short and made anything on the table blurry.

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Yeah my camera didn't like the higher height for focal length. Thankfully it was just a couple brief sections.

[@orionmcafee2017]

Blurry

[@CamoSpecsOnline]

Yeah my camera didn't like the higher height for focal length. Thankfully it was just a couple brief sections.