Army Special Forces vs Air Force SPECWAR: Complete Breakdown

[@ValhallaVFT]

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[@vettevegas]

Finally!

[@iwasnttheresidus1422]

@Nate, I am joking now with you, so don't get upset, Yes Bragg is just 2 miles away, but @ least they have Iron Mike and not gay bruce . Sorry I know is an old and a nasty joke, but I am old, when I was there was Bragg and not Liberty, was all Open the baee and Pope was air force base. And was 80's. Thanks a lot to all of you for your service. Nice memories, now i am an old fart and back in Italy.

[@LegionTacticoolCutlery]

SO much great info on PJs! Thanks!

[@BiggFinalBoss]

Whatever you think about Air Force Spec Ops & Army Spec Ops there is one constant… When Attached with Seals the Seals will abandon you.

[@JoshuaBunkowske]

💀

[@wardog5537]

Why do you say that?

[@TechNHC]

I know it happened bro but damn you didn't have to say that 😂😂😂😂😂

[@julius2790]

Fantastic conversation. I work with a PT who was involved in the battle of Shok Valley as a CCT. You'd never know because he doesn't talk about it but it amazed me to discover that sometimes the guy working next to you is a living, breathing hero. Worked with another young man who is a former PJ who was involved in the rescue of the soccer team in Thailand. He's in PT school now. He'd show up for work every morning and within 15 minutes everyone in the room was laughing and energized. Take one of these guys and put in them in any community, any organization, and things are going to get better. They lead by example and work their asses off. Most importantly they inspire all of use to do more and be more active in our communities. I'm glad you guys are bringing this kind of content to the world. We don't need fiction. The truth is way, way cooler. You have my respect and my thanks :)

[@FlakerFPS]

Super pumped you did this. I watch OnesReady on the reg, aspiring PJ, super cool to see the cross over.

[@rickeycoats1790]

As a retired 18D, we are definitely trained to handle a MASCAL incident, however, the PJs are better at getting patients out via air. PJs are the best I ever worked with when it came to anything involving ropes or rigging. They’re fucking rope wizards.

[@bdubs1543]

Amazing flow and dialogue between you three. It’s was very informative, engaging, educational and also entertaining

[@ValhallaVFT]

Love talking with the dudes over at ones ready for sure.

[@champ3461]

I scored well on my ASVAB and TAPAS and have officially passed my DFT for the AFSPECWAR development program. I start next Thursday So I'm excited to learn more about the relationship between SF and AFSPEC

[@champ3461]

Oh and I’m interested in getting any advice from SF/SOF guys so feel free to reply😎

[@JoeSaundersYippieKiYay]

Thanks to you to all for giving us a peek behind the SF AF curtain, I was clueless about that world. Oh yeah you all taught me a new expression, "Taratino It", excellent. Rock on Sirs!

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

Really good conversation Nate! In the 1970s, as a 2/75 sniper/pathfinder qualified Ranger I had the opportunity to train with an A.F. CCT team, they were very professional. BTW, I was a firearms instructor at Dept. of Energy Central Training Academy (DOE-CTA) at Kirtland AFB, our ranges including the shoothouse are some of the best in the U.S.

[@jouninraz]

Only the old school know about the CTA. I went through what is now NTC.

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

@jouninraz Yes, I know that it is now called the National Training Center, I was at CTA in the late 1990s

[@jessebell1930]

Another collab😁 Great to see you continue to branch out champion. And your subs have gone up yet again...fuck yeah! Love from Aussie mate👊

[@tomwilson1006]

My son is an O-3 and graduated from USAFA. He didn’t wanna follow in dad’s footsteps, and can’t say I blame him lol. I told him, “If you’re smart, you’ll join the AF bcuz you’ll get treated the best, way better than your dad’s Army.” 🥴😂 I’m glad he’s smarter than his dad!

[@vettevegas]

LOL!

[@Specopsfan]

RIP John Chapman. Hero Warrior

[@penrodautorepair3170]

I served as an Army Night Stalker as a chinook guy. Thanks for mentioning us

[@BA0701]

Bro, all of the ODAs I lived with in Iraq, told me, personally, that AF PJs were the most highly trained SOF. Just saying. As for who was the most famous Combat Controller, it is John Chapman, not even close. He single handily took our several reinforced enemy bunker positions, and saved an entire SEAL team. A well earned distinction.

[@vettevegas]

Somebody needs to do a better video. Clear and with zooms.

[@vettevegas]

And a helo full of Rangers and pJs.

[@Wil482Senior]

I spent 19 years in SF, and I have NEVER heard any teammates say PJs are the most highly trained. That is ridiculous. SF has the broadest mission set of any SOF element, and no other SOF has a comparable skill set. SF medics are much more highly trained than PJs.

[@burnttoaster6313]

@@Wil482SeniorI’m interested in having the opportunity to join SF. I’m 22 years old and currently in college on the road to getting my Associates degree in business. I want to be a entrepreneur but since I was little I had aspirations in joining SF. My projection for graduation is early 2026. What would be the best route to sf? I was thinking of choosing 35N for my mos since I want to do something in intelligence.

[@BA0701]

@@Wil482Senior Guys from 5th Group, and 1st Group told me that. Mentioning how the PJs had to be so widely trained, getting the schools like those of 18B and 18D, among others. Not sure why I would make something like that up, but it absolutely was told to me. I agree with what you are saying about Ds, though, those guys are next level.

[@jbrown1275]

Retired (Ret@rd?) AF Pilot here who was a Flt Commander for AF SERE guys… we are zipper suited sun gods who think we can change a light by holding the bulb in the socket and letting the world revolve around us 🤣… but really, it was a great leadership learning opportunity because my guys where working with HHQ and Spec Ops and I gave them the top cover to get the job done… good pilot leaders learn from your troops about what they need to get the job done and you get it to them, not limit their capabilities. Also when I was a cadet got to take a summer 2.5 week course through USAFA put on by 10th SFG at Fort Carson which kicked my ass but honestly gave me so much confidence that when I was a JET-IA (joint expeditionary tasking - individual aungmentee) assigned to an Army unit in Kabul that I had Marines feel comfortable going outside the wire with me (they told me so… or were just feeding my big ego 😉🤣)… so thanks to you SF guys! Also thanks for covering our amazing AF Spec Ops brothers and all the great stuff they do to contribute to the fight.. One team, one fight

[@JRT140]

Awesome interview

[@tacofterror]

Its like a crossover

[@nickb7666]

Hey brother, I served as an NSW embed with 1st SFG and 10th SFG in Kandahar and Logar. I think it would be beneficial and interesting to dive into some of the tertiary jobs in SOF that never get recognized as such (I.E. Intel, crypto, SIGINT, PSYOPs (even though they briefed NSTR for a full year)). Love your content bro but if you would like some additional information on tactical support roles or SOF support roles that allow you to embed and roll outside the wire with the ODAs, please reach out. 10th Group, D Co, 2nd Bat. RIP Cribben.

[@MySheldon1]

I was so stuck on doing SF, but this stream is helping me realize I may be more interested in AFSW 🤔.

[@JoshuaBunkowske]

It depends on the job you want to do. The sof units all do different jobs, SF does a ton of different jobs though compared to the rest.

[@KiarOdyssey]

I’m happy nates channel is growing 😊

[@673AWSF]

These videos are cool because while I feel like I know a lot of shit, these give a lot more context to things.

[@donnieates]

Talking about the Air Force not issuing valor awards to the PJs, CCs, etc. They sure give that shit to their fellow pilots anytime they do any combat related mission.

[@Buen31]

You should do a video on your thoughts on the Military Federal Law Enforcement, Army CID, OSI, NCIS, etc!

[@DG-tl3lt]

Would you be able to do a podcast/interview/ videoabout the different roles of care within an army SF group? I’m personally more interested in the physician job(M.D/D.O), what echelon a physician can be, where physician assistants(PA) are, and how they interact with 18Ds, and is the training for MD/DO and PAs in SF group may be different from a normal line unit. Especially comparing Active Duty, to National Guard, deployment v stateside.

[@GlantonGang2]

The Coolest airforce guys I've ever met/worked with are JTAC guys. They DGAF.. yet are high speed at their jobs.

[@brianfitz1604]

Awesome video!!!

[@masonolinger7870]

Start med school in July, working to one day be an Air Force SOST surgeon. Love the content @ValhallaVFT @OnesReady

[@nickvoelker7180]

This is interesting. I worked at a remote training area where they did all the cool stuff, and I supported all kinds of different special operations units. I was an electronics guy, the super secret squirrel stuff. I never could figure out exactly who was who and what they did. The AF was the most confusing because they were always mixed in with other branches and did vastly different things. This vid cleared some things up.

[@fdangleshadang-a-lang7149]

Holy cow I didn’t realize AFSOC was so small. I was playing with the idea of going SR, but if there’s only 100 of them…. I think I have better chances of becoming an 18E

[@Sammy10382-f]

Are you going to make a video on what's happening in Syria? I'm just curious about your perspective.

[@em34ev3r]

Much respect to the Airforce special operations. I think they follow suit with how the Army conducts things.

[@BudFranks-fu9ye]

Very good video. Great information. Things I never heard of. I knew about pj's that's it. I was Army 13 years👍🇱🇷

[@ValhallaVFT]

Yessir I learned a lot on this episode myself

[@Gabagoulgod]

@@BudFranks-fu9ye thank you for your service

[@isaacb4705]

Say you go the NG SF route and you opt to go a NG group and a few years later you want to go active. How hard is that to do? Is it even possible .

[@rent2386]

aaron at 1:30:16 "know the job in today's context" aaron at 1:30:58 "YOU DONT NEED TO KNOW"

[@Wil482Senior]

As a retired Green Beret with 19 years in SF, I'm sick of seeing other SOF elements being compared to SF. There is no comparison. Most SF candidates are not 18Xrays, and we dont recruit from basic training and OCS like SEALs. The average Green Beret is 32 years old, married with kids. And, unlike any other SOF, every Green Beret must learn a foreign language. The 18X who's only experience in SF was combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan have had to learn the other 95% of what SF does. The TACPs attached to our teams in combat were often the most valuable asset, particularly during the initial invasion of Iraq.

[@cdj8520]

Not true, as of July 2024, the commanding general of SWCS has openly said that 18X candidates make up over 50% of the Special Forces Regiment. They are the MAJORITY of all Special Forces soldiers. Those days you speak of are long gone. Also, the other two ARSOF Regiments have to learn languages, and MARSOC does in fact have a language course.

[@Mr50403]

Dude I'm a vet. 32 kids and married. I'm calling bllsht. It's S.F and families are far behind that.

[@ValhallaVFT]

Mkay, this video isn’t comparing the two, I’m assuming you just looked at the title and made the comment. Also, I made a video on the current SFQC with information directly from my teammate who’s currently an instructor, and the vast majority of candidates are 18X now.

[@JoshuaBunkowske]

@@ValhallaVFTYou’ve been hanging out with Jake too much lol, we can tell with the Mkay.

[@marcuscasillas9264]

@@JoshuaBunkowskedidn’t make the cut ?

[@MarcLombart]

Awesome show. Makes me wish I wasn't a sixty three-year-old disabled Canadian. I love the idea that it s the team that matters. Would that I could, I think I'd have to have been capable of being a PJ.

[@BeyondThe-b3v]

Let’s go to VFT! Good video

[@vettevegas]

The most lethal guy in the battle space, and they think of CCTs as an afterthought? You need to work with only Rangers. Not land on the X for no good reason.

[@theentiresovietunion]

Going in as a CCT in a few months

[@Mr196710]

You need to make it thru AF Basic and then work your way there.

[@gabe_diaz]

Hell yeah brother, practice your running and swimming more than your strength

[@shadooks4774]

@@Mr196710wow really? 😖

[@Mr196710]

@@shadooks4774 Lots of kiddos think they are signing a Spec Ops contract when they aren't. I am a retired vet but what do I know.

[@theentiresovietunion]

@@Mr196710 Yea i go to basic but thats the contract is cct

[@Gabagoulgod]

I’m joining the Air Force at 19 maybe 20 and I’m 13 right now what should I know or Learn please somebody give me some advice

[@ValhallaVFT]

You should watch this video

[@Gabagoulgod]

@@ValhallaVFTyes sir and thank you for your service

[@antthomas7916]

I would just stay active, focus on your grades, and stay out of trouble. It'll be a lot easier to enlist if you follow that guidance. Other than that, just chill and take your time growing up.

[@tomwilson1006]

Stay focused, keep your grades up, and make sure you do activities like team sports, etc. If you can get an appointment to the AF Academy, lots of doors will open for you, and you’ll be able to choose your own path. Enlisting isn’t a bad option either. The USAF has some of the best technical training in the military.

[@GlantonGang2]

Dont drop the soap! Oh wait that's navy lol. Think it over really good kid and understand it's an 8 year minimum commitment. When you choose an MOS choose something with a civilian application for when you get out. And finally that bonus they promised you. Pretty much expect to get like 1% of it and an explanation from them as to why you were taxed out of the rest.

[@joshuaradcliffe110]

This is probably a stupid Question but could a SF Soldier become a Joint Fires Observer ? I don’t know if SF gets too so that or not. Reason Im brining this up is cause I know CCTs in the Air-force typically do and that reminded me too ask

[@FeWolf]

Chairs Force, total respect to FACs and PJs

[@ds698]

19:59 it’s all good I was security forces we know what’s up lol we like jokes and snacks. But we will F you up if you don’t have your CAC card!

[@fluxmechanics]

haha, just had to make sure i knew where mine was.

[@ValhallaVFT]

😂

[@FlakerFPS]

Wtf is RiddickDDR on

[@travisodell9708]

I'd guess meth with the disjointed random shit he's posting. 😂

[@JosephsCoat]

AF enlistment standards lol. I tried submitting an officer packet and they weren’t interested bc of my undergrad gpa. Now, I had a 4.0 graduate gpa and excellent work experience, but all they care about is that damn undergrad gpa (which if we’re honest is bs when comparing across different schools)

[@bradirvin-oif]

@ValhallaVFT I’m a Physician Assistant, what Special Op mos practices the highest level of medicine and tactical. I’m guessing like an 18D or PJ?

[@ValhallaVFT]

Yes, like Aaron talks about here though there are differences in their focus.

[@slamdancer1720]

SARCS in the navy do a lot of medical as well

[@Jigglebiggit]

A good number of pjs transition into PAs . The parallel is enough there's a specific program for it.

[@em34ev3r]

@@Jigglebiggitwow that is crazy.

[@songen1042]

Joint Medical Augmentation Unit is the Tier 1 special operations emergency care unit that supports JSOC. It is the highest tactical/medical unit.

[@GOTXGetOffTheX]

Great content man, thank you. Just a question, what is a good organization to support ordering merch etc? Green Beret foundation? Better other ones? Please share your thoughts. Thanks!

[@TroubleActual]

This should be good!!! Trent and Aaron and Brent

[@JuanHernandez-ze3si]

CSAR = come, sit and relax.... lol

[@jayjablunov4697]

Instead of asking when the last time a capability was needed, the question that needs to be asked is when is the next time it will be needed. Anybody who is intellectually honest, will have to answer the question, "I don't know."

[@stevengrumley-uo8je]

What a Fucking GREAT Listen! Thanks Guys! Stay Hard. 🇺🇸🫡

[@vettevegas]

Does each Air Force Combat Controller have an armed Predator Drone on missions?

[@vettevegas]

You guys need to partner with only Rangers, so you don't get left wounded in a bunker or helocopter or such.

[@shadooks4774]

Fr 😂

[@MichaelPCarr10]

47:53 FACTS, better than Joe Rogan

[@ViktoriousDead]

A good video about how enablers work, there’s so much stuff out there about “PJ’s vs SEALS” JTAC’s vs Rangers” and people do not actually realize what an enabler’s task and purpose is. While PJ’s JTACS, TACP’s are all incredibly impressive dudes, these are not shoot, move, communicate jobs that work in a team like typical Army/navy SOF units. If you had ten seals/rangers/SF going up against ten AIrforce SOF, you’d end up with ten dead Airforce SOF dudes, because that’s simply not how these units operate. There are not teams of JTACS and PJS’s kicking in doors and running isometric operation with airforce pure. They enable other SOF units to do their jobs

[@Mr50403]

I don't know. All them dudes are Special.

[@JoshuaBunkowske]

@@Mr50403Wdym?

[@vettevegas]

What are good AsVAB scores for AF CCTs and Pararescue? Recon? SERE?

[@MrShovelBottom]

SWOE-V is the contract for all of that, you can check the rest of the requirements via the internet.

[@danielney6]

your instagram page link is broken :(

[@JT037]

Why is TACP grouped in with the other career fields? It does not fall under AFSOC does it? Just curious as to why they go through SWAS just to end up at an ASOS which falls under Air Combat Command right? Which equals ALOT less funding? Correct me if I’m wrong please, this is just from my own research. Seems a bit misleading.

[@realWARPIG]

Same as the Navy saying "All you gotta do is get accepted to BUDS training and youre a SEAL bro!" knowing you will quit instantly and be the new guy for the "needs of the Navy" Army does the same shit with Airborne School and paratroopers. 99.9% of non infantrymen end up in the 18th Airborne Corps as a pog with wings.

[@MonsieurTesta]

They don't go through A&S. They go through the pre-A&S course and then split off to their apprentice course.

[@MrShovelBottom]

Pjs are not AFSOC either, they follow under ACC command. Some PJs are AFSOC to enable the personal Recovery mission set. TACPs can go AFSOC to enable the Precision strike mission. CCTs and SR are there to enable Global Access.

[@JT037]

The PJ’s that are under AFSOC do they go through a separate selection process for that? For TACP if you want to go SOF, from I’ve found you have to go through a separate selection process I think.

[@MrShovelBottom]

@@JT037 Maybe, but I think you could just get assigned to an STS. You would need to ask an STS PJ or check out the Ones Ready podcast where they may interview a SOF PJ.

[@vettevegas]

So, Im older and slower, can I still get an officers contract. Its easier, right? Lower standards.

[@spudbeans22]

green berets are not special operators right

[@p1xelshooter287]

According to dale comstock the only real operators are delta guys lmao but they all call themselves operators so who cares tbh

[@ValhallaVFT]

Special Forces Operational Detachment Alpha - SF, Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta- Delta Force. With all due respect to Dale, he probably should go back to the drawing board on that one.

[@spudbeans22]

@@ValhallaVFT however do special forces operators even do special operations. i assumed that’s what army special operations was for

[@echoZERO9]

Quit while you can

[@asce9182]

​@spudbeans22 "Special Operations" is not a unit. It's a term used to refer to every single cool guy unit you know of that falls under SOCOM, which includes the Special Forces. You might be getting a bit to into the weeds. People make this way more complicated than it needs to be. Special Forces are called Special Forces for the same reason SEALs and Rangers are called SEALs and Rangers. It's the actual name of the unit. 1st Special Forces Regiment or 75th Ranger Regiment or Marine Raider Regiment. It has nothing to do with being Special operations or the mission they conduct. Special Forces do conduct a unique mission but that missions is called unconventional warfare and it is a Special operation. It's just a Special operations that only the Special Forces conduct. Just like only Navy SEALs conduct SDV operations.

[@markpekel4517]

I see some parallels between how people few special forces operators and IT guys and that we do our stuff behind the scenes. People don't think about us until there is a problem and they are fix my problem and we do. Great thanks and go back to ignoring us until the next problem occurs.

[@KillRoy0351]

Uhh… where’s Mike Jones?

[@dudemanryan]

Probably with some ovulating gun bunny 😂😂😂😂

[@JohnsonHowardDukeTheThird]

I think ima go join the air force for real

[@DeadBrokeSaddlery]

Combat Weather! Hooah….

[@RiddickDDR]

Yes. He is on parole and violated his parole and lives in alabama.

[@RiddickDDR]

Trauma is the gateway for addiction (in my humble, and non professional opinion).

[@RiddickDDR]

Tell James hulsey, don't blame me for his mistakes, actions have consequences. I dont say that as a threat. I say that as a factual statement. I am simply a 12th stepper. Who has walked into some really dangerous situations and that is definitely what I walked into at his air B and B in cherokee county.

[@RiddickDDR]

Haven't seen him since 2020m

[@lawngnome2415]

Alright lets watch

[@p1xelshooter287]

Real talk

[@RiddickDDR]

Tell the rome verizon store (james and brandon goodman) that they are not military, or law enforcement. And therefore what they are doing is considered domestic terrorism.

[@RiddickDDR]

Lived in a camper

[@HOTSHTMAN53]

🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐

[@RiddickDDR]

Get off the technology. NOW.

[@asigerson6765]

Homeboy in the middle sure likes to talk

[@abefromen1]

it's his podcast

[@MySheldon1]

I’m imterested in AF SW, but I’m concerned about being damn near the only African American in the community. I love the training opportunities and the mission with SW, but I can’t shake the reality of the social dynamic of being pretty much the only black guy…

[@ValhallaVFT]

It’ll be like that in every SOF unit, so if something like that is going to be a concern for you I wouldn’t bother wasting your time.

[@travisodell9708]

So what? I'd say you'll run into that alot of places.

[@jay_actual]

You need to change your mentality my guy. Embrace being the ONLY. Step out of your comfort zone. I was the only black dude in my unit for at least three years in the Army until we eventually got another black dude. But guess what? I was a high performer and reliable so my platoon treated me equally. I also grew up around all races in NYC so I was used to it. But embrace the unknown and go for it, your performance is what matters, not your race. Imagine if Jackie Robinson decided to quit playing baseball for the Dodgers. He paved the way for others and now the entire league wears his jersey number every season. Change your mindset and go for what you want.

[@focusedfowl8981]

Many men of color have gone before you, what you need to consider: “Am I here to raise the bar or not?”

[@GuestUser-iv6ge]

That's just an excuse. Had only one dude in a team ahead of me that was black in CCT pipeline. Cadre and teammates did not care about color haha. Do you put out maximum effort, and is that effort strong and fast enough to meet/exceed standards? Are you a true team player? Those dudes become your brothers if you let them.

[@BrodyToYou]

LOL!

[@paddyohenry6428]

We waste too much money on all these separate units. It's going to have to consolidate.

[@pyeitme508]

Lol

[@troopdog23]

Where they trash talking cct’s as PJ’s? LOL cct’s are exponentially higher lol

[@ValhallaVFT]

I’m not sure what your comprehension level is but they literally have a CCT in Ones Ready. Nobody trashed anyone in this video, really weird comment man.

[@t1n061]

They always talk sht in their podcast Abt each other. It's all in good fun. Also Funny joke man lol PJs def better

[@Mister_Juntao]

It’s the god damn chair force….. are we really taking this shit serious?!

[@jimmyboy131]

Did you pay any attention at all? Seriously, just listen.

[@mathewserrano2262]

AF guys attached to SF and other units have the highest kill count

[@opaca512]

Aaron is great until he talks politics.🚩🫣🤣

[@ValhallaVFT]

Don’t bully Aaron he’s my little snuggle bug.

[@opaca512]

@ 🤣🥹

[@amdguru34]

Aaron is squared away when it comes to politics!

[@inkoftheworld]

Absolutely... x'D He's like a different person.