Ep 389: AFSPECWAR: Fixing Career Confusion in One Podcast with Jimmy Cleckler

[@CrisisNCO1971]

JIMMY!!!!!!! Great dude! He actually worked for me at the JSOC unit when he was SERE....good memories and was glad to see he went STO. EDIT: I should note that I was Jimmy's supervisor for a VERY short period of time and when you have someone as smart and talented as he is there is not supervision.....you just turn them loose to go forward and make great thing happen.

[@jarradphillips2218]

My guys I was fixing to go to bed. I guess I’m up for another hour.

[@rent2386]

One’s ready is the best to fall asleep too, except I dream about being on the podcast and can’t get a word in when Aaron cuts me off

[@Kevin-o9h1z]

I couldn't agree more about making ASPEC War its separate entity from big Air Force. I'm in tthe pipeline and I've already even seen the disconnect and difficulties it makes by doing these things together that get in the way of getting things done. Those in the position with the power to fix this need to watch this!

[@brianpowell601]

Does AFSPECWAR also need to get out of the big Air Force mindset of SNCOs being done as tactical level operators once they make E-7 or E-8. That's just one shift that may need to happen in the culture. Hopefully, conversations like these help move that needle. Great work, gentlemen.

[@charlesloscocco5533]

Great job! Very interesting. As a visual, go back to the Civil Engineering field and see how the field changed when the plumber, Mason, and the carpenter became a 7 level. They only have one RM for that entire career field. That could be used as a guide to form teams.

[@mountaingem6]

Wow! Absolutely fascinating episode. Lots of food for though, how to get rid of complexity. 🤔🤨

[@rudybotello9559]

This episode seemed like it was only 10 minutes. Good stuff, fellas 👍🏽

[@theentiresovietunion]

I was going to try and go STO but i had a former CCT convince to go CCT instead cause its "funner"

[@Newbobdole]

COMPLIMENT: It’s so funny to me that, obviously, this USAF spec war podcast has put more effort into the front end/logistics in terms of partnerships, gear, etc Almost like it’s a cultural difference between the branches or something

[@jamesakin1836]

Yeah, fixed it but didn't fix it. I'm with Peaches, until you get someone who understands the mission of all the career fields and has the intestinal forttitude + clout, nothing much will change. Great work, guys. JA

[@OnesReady]

@@jamesakin1836 agree. Thanks for engaging! - A

[@denzelmolex8024]

Can we get a TACP update ?

[@OnesReady]

Sure! They still exist

[@kilroyfrills3084]

But what is a special operation to begin with?

[@calebstrout6022]

Would it not just make sense to have AFSOC takeover from Selection forward, then also own the Rescue Squadrons similar to how Big air force Medical owns all the MDG's in the USAF?? Add EOD and SERE into AFSW (or rename to AFSOF please God) This makes all 6 AFSC's Special Operations and under the Special Operations Command. Have SR/PJ/CCT/TACP go through the same core pipeline them split after they do land nav, comms, medicine, shooting, predive, dive, ABN, sere.

[@OnesReady]

@@calebstrout6022 Why would SERE be SOF? Why would EOD? - A

[@calebstrout6022]

@ I understand SERE and EOD as support but I feel like having an EOD guy in every ST team would add so much capability per team no different than PJ/CCT’s/SR etc. SERE is the one that I’m more on the fence about. I’m not fully aware of all the things SERE does but the jobs they do seem on par with how Civil Affairs is to the Green Berets

[@vettevegas]

Whats the story on dive school, is that done through slots with Navy?

[@vettevegas]

SERE also does interrogations as well, right? And teaches behind enemy lines tactical stuff correct? If that's not specops then it must be intelligence. Isn't that a bunch of evasion fieldcraft?

[@vettevegas]

PJ's were invented BEFORE the Green Berets, to do the definition of a "special operation" of rescuing downed airmen in enemy territory... Cmon. Clearly Special Operators.

[@jonsomerville7647]

I did not know they did this, I’ve been out 2 years now, this sounds silly and confusing.

[@ashyb5958]

So what you’re really saying is… it’s like having a pro football team being coached by a pro baseball player? All top athletes…way different sport! 🧐 🤔

[@MTranFitness]

What if I join AFSPECWAR but identifies as Special Operations? 🤨

[@OnesReady]

@@MTranFitness great question. Like anyone else who identifies as something they aren’t, you’re allowed to, but no one else is required to believe you or engage in your identification! - A

[@thomasmatzke6589]

Who gives a poop Special Ops is just a support mission set to conventional in the next fight

[@OnesReady]

@@thomasmatzke6589 language! Nonner. - A