To be fair, this is an apples to oranges comparison.. By running a 40 x 82 vs 45 x 85 with the same gearing on both motors, your results aren't really surprising. Not saying tp's don't run hot, just stating that the smaller motor with slightly higher kv will pull more amperage and run hotter than the larger 1717
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@Ehm Ee - You are right, there is a small size difference but there is only 100kv between them. But to be fair, I tried 5 teeth less on the pinion and on 6s instead of 8s, still ran very hot. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and watching.
@bigboytoyzrc92583 жыл бұрын
@@RCPASS1 Tp motors are less efficient, hog amps like crazy, and get super hot in comparison to castle. Castle or Steve Neu is the way to go🏎💨🔥
@soulbrother3299 Жыл бұрын
Very fair!!
@reallythough45914 ай бұрын
You have it in the wrong car. Run the larger, longer to, or put that motor in a lighter car. Right tool for the right job. I put a 2 pole 4600 castle in a 10th scale drag car, and it sucked. It was made for an 18scale car a few pounds lighter.@@RCPASS1
@rcbustanut20572 жыл бұрын
Wow, came across this video at just the right time. I'm in the middle of stretching my Arrma Typhon 6S at the moment & was debating on whether to stick with the 1717 1650kv that I'm currently using on my Limitless or going with a TP motor now that I have room for a longer can size. I was looking at the TP 4060 & 4070 1750kv motors. I guess there's a reason why these guys out there running TP have serious blower fans on them motors, can use them cars as a leaf blower lol 😂
@lowridr22 жыл бұрын
His setup is not the same though the 1717 is much larger then the tp he running even though is similar KV the larger the can the more copper windings can handle more heat more power more every thing
@soulbrother3299 Жыл бұрын
Super hot!! I stayed 6s hobbywing 1650kv with max6!!
@alterdcustomrc45123 жыл бұрын
Awesome paint on the body. I like the castle but mine burnt up, waiting on warranty. I’m using a hobby wing 4985 and it hold up much better for the reliability aspect but it was slower than the castle. Castle FTW! thanks for sharing
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@Alterdcreationd - Thank you, much appreciated!!! I hope you get your motor soon, I always had good service from Castle. No issues with my motor and it has more than 30 speed passes, I have change bearings on it and that's it.
@reallythough45914 ай бұрын
Metal rotor, stronger magnets. Over geared, or esc amping out. I run max5 v2 and mamba monster with tp, no issues, and smoking castle.
@CmwSpeedrunUk3 жыл бұрын
That’s crazy heat
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@Cmw Speed run Uk - Crazy is right!!! Thanks for watching.
@CmwSpeedrunUk3 жыл бұрын
@@RCPASS1 all my tp have run very hot cannot beat castel motor 👍🏽
@Bobsbargainbasement3 жыл бұрын
Ha, I can’t say the same as I have burnt up three 1717 /1650kv motors on 8s speed gearing and bash gearing , got one on the way and sending a new burnt out one today, ran it on stock felony with 16 t pinion and she fried! 😂
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@Bob Sanchez - I can't believe that, I have one of the first motors that come out and after over 25 speed runs the motor is still going strong, I do take it apart after a few speeds runs to clean it and I have change the bearings once. Good luck and hopefully CC sends you better quality motors. What ESC are you using?
@Bobsbargainbasement3 жыл бұрын
@@RCPASS1 sorry for late reply, running mmx8s in it. Got one of the motors back yesterday and installed it , we’ll see this weekend
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@Bob Sanchez - Good luck and have fun!!! Hopefully they sent you a solid motor.
@toysforboysrc2 жыл бұрын
Don’t sound right… either it’s an eBay replica or your motor timing is all the way advanced or the mesh is too tight or you just don’t have a fan at all and you’re running it in a fully wide open area where you can full throttle it and beat on it. If Kevin Talbot hasn’t blown a 1717 “yet” lol, then you might be doing something different from what everyone else is doing with the 1717. Innovation rc takes his cars to 150mph 3 times in a row in his videos and they don’t exceed 120 degrees F.
@islandrc-duke19723 жыл бұрын
Awesome setup,cool runs
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother!!!
@rltj5533 жыл бұрын
Good info. Thanks man
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@Rltj - Thank you brother
@10krms543 жыл бұрын
Nice set up where do u find tp motors b sides there website
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@10k Rms - I bought a while back in Amazon, thank you for watching!
@williemonteiro2 жыл бұрын
My Tobbies in Tampa has a huge inventory of TP motors.
@toysforboysrc2 жыл бұрын
That’s it??? That’s all it took? Ok so rusty was before the new firm update? D wind Y wind?
@RCPASS12 жыл бұрын
@Toys for Boys - The update is so Castle ESC can play nice with TP Y wind motors. Thank you for watching!
@toysforboysrc2 жыл бұрын
@@RCPASS1 … sorry for the spell error I meant that not rusty 😕 but yes the whole firm update, thanks.. btw, this new HW 12s esc that came out.. it should be the PERFECT candidate to run the castle speed run motor AKA warranty destroyer lol.
@RCPASS12 жыл бұрын
I'm keeping an eye on it 👍
@marksmola72993 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. What kv is the castle? Thank you
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@Mark Smola - it's a 1650kv, thank you for watching!
@duanepatterson62302 жыл бұрын
Great job I was looking to get a 4030cm motor but now I think I changed my mind. Random question where do you drive at? im local in the broward county area and im looking for places to run. Maybe we can meet one day and take our cars for a run?
@RCPASS12 жыл бұрын
@Duane Patterson - the speed runs out on West Palm, Race Buggy and soon 1/8th Touring on Coral Springs RC track. I haven't been able to get out as much as I would like but let me know best way to contact you. Thanks for watching!!!
@rcpistolpete72073 жыл бұрын
great pass what gearing made it hot?
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@RC Pistol Pete - 1:1, 34t - Thank you, much appreciated!
@zeljkogagic25512 жыл бұрын
Sorry my english are bad, tp power better? I will drive with a max 6 esc? And offroad on my hobao vse buggy? 🤔
@RCPASS12 жыл бұрын
In general TP and Castle are good motors, consider a good fan. Just make sure you get the right one for your application and gear it correctly.
@marcelwunsch5300Ай бұрын
Tp motor D turns?? Y turns timing 10 D wind time 0 and then look temp much better and motor deliver! 👍🏼
@rcheatbustafans48592 жыл бұрын
nice video you just need to gear down with the TP Motor
@The667tony3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get those carbon side plates?
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@[REVELATION666] - Ebay, auction 264899908776... Thank you for watching!
@The667tony3 жыл бұрын
@@RCPASS1 thanks for replying. I'm going for it.
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@[REVELATION666] You will like, great fit and look!
@The667tony3 жыл бұрын
@@RCPASS1 I already ordered entire kit. Almost a couple of hundred there,but worth it. Thanks again!
@losoknoso31513 жыл бұрын
Xtreme rc
@benhamer91253 жыл бұрын
tp dont seem to list a 1750kv 4050 was it a 1700 D wind?
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
Ben Hamer it's a 1750kv but not from their regular motors, still I don't recommend for the application I use it for. Thanks for reaching out with your question.
@benhamer91253 жыл бұрын
@@RCPASS1 was it delta or a wye wound motor? i ran a 2200kv D wind that got very hot very quickly someone mentioned to me they d winds are toasters 😂
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@Ben Hamer Dwind, if you are using a MMX8S, you need to install the latest firmware and runs a bit better but they are a toaster 😂
@stp4403 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert but I'm 90% sure that 4050 was only rated for 4s my Friend.
@general-e86282 жыл бұрын
Tp power website shows a 4050 with 1700kv has a max 30 volts.
@RCPASS12 жыл бұрын
@stp440 - these are the specs when I bought it: TP4050-1750KV motor Max voltage: about 35V(8S) Max current: about 166A
@jessheffren68413 жыл бұрын
What are you running for timing
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@Jess Heffren I hope I understood your question, I'm running stock timing
@adamniven3 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, I heard from credible source that those TP4050 motors run crazy hot when paired with the MMX8S but much cooler on the XLX2
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@NxGen RC - Now their is a new firmware update from Castle for the MMX8S and it's supposed to help the TP4050 run better. Thank you for the info.
@rubenaycojr34943 жыл бұрын
Which firmware would that be? Can I get some help finding it.. I run the same setup, mmx8s with a tp4050
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@@rubenaycojr3494 visit Castle creations website and download the new Castle Link version 3.82.00, than connect your ESC and updates to Firmware 2.13. Let me know if you need further help, maybe I make a video. Thanks for watching!
@rubenaycojr34943 жыл бұрын
@RC PASS Thanks bro. Have not had a chance to update firmware yet. Have you? Any changes to motor performance/efficiency? I’m just about to pull the trigger on the 1717 lol.
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@@rubenaycojr3494 - I did the upgrade on one of the ESC and tested the motor on 6s and it was slightly better, no speed run and still needs a fan! You are better off with the 1717 sensored for sure. Good luck!
@motortoys99423 жыл бұрын
Why so hot?
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@Motor toys - motor was just not efficient on the 8s setup that I was running it. Thank you for watching!
@tedshickell73152 жыл бұрын
That’s bull crap I never had a problem with my tp motor
@RCPASS12 жыл бұрын
I believe you, these are parts and not all made equal. The use of my motor may vary from others, no need to let my experience upset you to this point. Thank you for sharing your opinion and experience with TP motors and enjoy the hobby.
@Rcghost-13 жыл бұрын
Tp is trash I had the same motor it overrated
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
At least for this motor is very true.
@Rcghost-13 жыл бұрын
@@RCPASS1 I burn 4 motor in 3 months
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
@@Rcghost-1 did you try warranty the motors?
@Rcghost-13 жыл бұрын
@@RCPASS1 no tp never responded
@RCPASS13 жыл бұрын
That sucks! thanks for the info. I'm going to stick with Castle, my experience with them has been great.