Arrma Speed Run Showdown - Who will be Speed King ???

[@jefffactorrc-realcool5779]

One last note mate. It's a great thing to see you spending quality time with your boys. Both awesome and priceless. Memories mate. Keep up the great work!!! I'll be checking you guys out since finding your channel.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thank you, certainly does give some great memories, and the good thing is with youtube those memories are always there, even when im gone and Jack and Callum have their own children. Does make me really proud as well to see what they can both do with the cars

[@lefthandscott]

Great video chaps! I'm hoping to get my mojave to 65mph+ but will need to look at a way to keep that front down by the looks of it! 🙂

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - yes the front lifting is the biggest issues, you can lower it and also put some clear lexan in the window to help - good luck

[@romeolantanoRC]

Excellent RC car performance. Sending my support

[@HardcoreRC]

Thank you 👍

[@romeolantanoRC]

@@HardcoreRC you’re welcome 🙏

[@FullOnRC]

Great session guys. Love the Talion. Bring on the summer when I get it back on the road. Has a twisted chassis atm. Hoping they bring out an Exb version.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - loving the Talion as well, bring on the summer full stop, hate this cold, plastic doesnt like it at all 😥😥 have a look at the Radical RC bash Bars, that fixed our twisted chassis

[@HardcoreRC]

@@Shadows-RC I know how you feel, temps have dropped here and plastic already starting to break :( try to keep sprayed with GT85 as it helps a bit. Sucks stripping parts before even running 😥 Talion seems to sit in the lime light, but its a great great RC. Thanks for your kind words on the videos - glad you like them 👍👍

[@pgrcplus]

Great speed test 👍 The Talion looks so versatile straight out of the box - really good to see this rig holding its own against all the hop up challengers! 👍😊

[@HardcoreRC]

Talion is a great rig, very quick and very nimble with its low center of gravity, not as much air control due to smaller wheels, but thats an easy fix with some Backflips 😂😂

[@calvinpas3384]

@@HardcoreRC what do you mean is it hard to back flip it or?

[@HardcoreRC]

@@calvinpas3384 I meant by putting the Arrma Backflip wheels on from the Outcast / Notorious 6s cars

[@cryptobra5933]

These guys are insane . The talion can literally be the number 1 racing truggy with back flip tires. My talion is super fast right now and before that it took one hell of a beating . Talion is a beast.

[@FarmerFpv]

@@cryptobra5933 You will get way too much traction roll on a race track with backflip tires. You can't race 6s in the racing truggy class. It's also really heavy with limited tuning options compared to a purpose-built race truggy. It wouldn't be competitive. I have tried my talion on the track. It in no way can keep up with my Losi 8ight XTE truggy or my Swork S35 Pro even on 6s vs 4s on my race machines. The talion is a speed basher, it's meant for bashing hence the limited tuning options and thick plastic and aluminum.

[@norcalrc]

I knew which was gonna be the fastest when I saw the title. The underrated and under appreciated Talion is a master in the speed department. Love mine

[@HardcoreRC]

Hehe - those that knew knew 😂😂 the Talion sure does fly, i know it has more in it as well

[@HardcoreRC]

@@Shadows-RC Talion is fast :)

[@Rek_Rc]

I know it's an old video now but something about the Mojave, I just love it. Maybe because I'm such a senton fan and it's like a bigger meaner senton. Whatever it is, I love it.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks for watching and yes the Mojave is a great car on the right surface, can believe the abuse it takes as well

[@Rek_Rc]

@@HardcoreRC it's an awesome truck. Big fan of your channel , you and Kev inspired me to get back into the hobby. Thank you for that.

[@HardcoreRC]

@@Rek_Rc Your not wrong it is awesome. Means a lot that we help to inspire people back into this great hobby, means part of my work is done 👍👍

[@jameswright5572]

Yep. I get 48 on 6s with the stock pinion on my Mojave. Ran the speed pinion once LOL. Stock is fine for me.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks and yeah doesnt really need to be any faster for bashing

[@jefffactorrc-realcool5779]

You wouldn't know that Kevin Talbot guy would you? It sounds like you're both from the same geographical area. Good video regardless. Have an EPIC day!!!

[@HardcoreRC]

I do know Kevin and go out with him on occasions, glad you liked the video and thanks for watching

[@jefffactorrc-realcool5779]

I have a channel myself. I detail all my rc builds. 100% inside out. It definitely grabs your attention. The only ones I’ve seen like it anyway. So far.

[@jefffactorrc-realcool5779]

You should check it out and tell me what you think. I’d be curious.

[@HardcoreRC]

@@jefffactorrc-realcool5779 Looks like you put a lot of time and effort into those builds 👍👍 one thing to watch in your videos is the music in the back ground, its a bit distracting as appears to be playing in the background, will also cause you copy right strikes should you get to be able to monetize

[@jefffactorrc-realcool5779]

@@HardcoreRC I appreciate you checking it out and your feedback. I didn't think about the copyright issue. I only do the videos to show what I do. I'm not trying to make any $$$ from it all. I'm just trying to start something new. Highlighting what can be done. Art more, than function. I believe you guys have the other areas covered. My latest build was my ARMA OutCast 6S. You should see it, if you hadn't already. I took it to HobbyTown, USA in Atlanta, GA. They were speechless. I asked them, if they ever seen anything like it? Their response, "NEVER" All my builds glow in the dark as well, along with detailing the whole interior 100%. That goes with the transmitters or remotes as one would call it. Again, I just do it for the passion of the hobby. Nothing else. I'm currently building an ARMA Kraton 8S. I'm looking forward to posting it, once completed. Thanks for responding. "RC" Real Cool! Have an EPIC day mate.

[@v8iroczcamaro454]

I'm looking in to buying one of these....to bring back the kid in me 😆 that mojave definitely looks the best...what would be better for bashing out of the 3 I've subscribed as well 👍

[@HardcoreRC]

Have to inlock the child 👍 all good cars and would depend on the type of bashing you wanted to do, Mojave is very good on the ground on lose surfaces and for small jumps, not good on hard surfaces or grass and is hard to control on the air but at same time is super durable. Kraton and Talion are very similar, not as durable as the Mojave, but good on all surfaces and very good at jumping with air control

[@chevyriding4646]

Where where u guys been seems like forever since dropped video. Hope holidays are goin good

[@HardcoreRC]

Dropped a video just before Christmas, been having bad weather, some health issues, really busy with work etc, then the holidays kicked in as well. Working on the XRT video currently. Hope you had a great Christmas 👍

[@rcfundyer5739]

great stuff guys love that talion want one big time

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks, better hurry as a whole new Talion is coming in the Summer, not sure what format its going to take though

[@rclife9725]

I want one to

[@johnnysrcchannel7472]

Just subscribed. Loving the channel so far 🤙

[@HardcoreRC]

Many thanks for the sub 👍👍 glad you enjoy the channel, lots more to come and trying to improve the quality as well, all work in progress as we learn 👍

[@donuttime2507]

Talion looking quick 😎

[@HardcoreRC]

Love the Talion, so quick and handles so well, should have gone one sooner , doesn't control as well as the Kraton in the air due to smaller wheels though - might put some Backflips on and see how she air handles then

[@donuttime2507]

@@HardcoreRC yeah looks awesome, I saw Aussie RC lower talion. Looked cracking. MIP are next level tools. Can't believe how they feel when wrenching.

[@HardcoreRC]

@@donuttime2507 I know - using MIP makes you want to wrench more 😂😂

[@emptyqrider]

Thanks again for sharing this multi cars video . What was the heat sink & fan you’re using on your mojave ? Can it possible to be attached to stock spektrum 2050kv motor ?

[@HardcoreRC]

Thank you - its the Hobbywing C4 heat sink, its not a perfect fit, you need to squeeze it to make smaller for 42mm motors and stretch it to fit the 49mm motor, it does do a good job though

[@MilesofProof]

Excellent comparisons

[@HardcoreRC]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed

[@jdcrcspares7436]

Love the video, thank you for Doing a speed run comparison 👍🏻

[@HardcoreRC]

Thats ok - im glad you enjoyed it 👍👍

[@droningharry]

Talion for the win. Hard to believe it was Arrma top Truggie in 18 at 70 MPH. Now they pushed even farther. maybe the V5 (rumored) will top 80 out of the box and go full on Basher as well. I'd buy a 2nd one. Great video guys.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks, yes the Talion is a great little truggy. We are also eagerly waiting for the totally new Talion this summer, if i was a betting man i would say it will have longer chassis like the Majoave chassis, would also deffo get one, just hope they don't go silly with the price

[@thatmarred_mustang]

And now it's summer and we have a Talion EXB!

[@mikescallon4288]

The Talion I have come to appreciate as the best rc to date that I have driven. I am actually writing this after an early morning drive on a private golf course over where I live. The Superintendent just threatened to call the police if I come back lol. GOLF Courses are literally best places to run vechiles. It is a shame they are so uptight about things. That said, I have been playing musical chairs with very vechiles lately and for some stupid reason I traded my Talion for a Sledge. Massive mistake. Sledge is a miserable driving vechile. Loud and unrefined with a motor that overheats very easily. Needless to say I went back to the hobby shop and traded the Sledge back for the Talion. Lost some money but rest assured, not matter what this Talion will never be on the trading block again. I do also own the Team Corally Muraco so between those I am set with Truggies for a while.

[@LawrenceTimme]

To get more speed you could lower the suspension using the droop screws

[@HardcoreRC]

Yep thats an idea - certainly lived up the the 70mpg out the box on the Talion

[@ChachThablocminista]

Yeah more racing!

[@HardcoreRC]

You got it!

[@camaroboy383]

Good runs boy's!.. they are all fast..😎👍

[@HardcoreRC]

Indeed they are, all well fast enough for good bashing sessions :)

[@FarmerFpv]

Your boys are getting tall and growing like weeds! Soon they won't fit on the video screen, lol. Looked like yall had lots of fun. Cheers from Texas.

[@HardcoreRC]

They have both grown sooo much, both taller than me now. Thanks for watching and noticing the boys growing 👍

[@DrClawizdead]

I'd like to see another Kraton speed test with fresh batteries.

[@HardcoreRC]

Not sure it would make any difference as the tires are really the liming factor - much after 60mph and the foams get killed

[@bantononabike]

The Talion is a beast. Wonder why they discontinued it and what replaced it?

[@HardcoreRC]

It sure is, who knows, since Arrma got taken over by Horizon a lot of what they do doesn't make sense, its all about the money

[@troyflanagan4237]

Beautiful speed runs i have a 4s kraton 110 2400kv Motor 120Esc servo with a 15th tooth pinion gear but in the hobby shop i deal with getting New input gear and the 2 Cooling fans that come with THE Truck when you buy it Right out of 📦 box i have a Question about the 15th tooth pinion is it safe in regards to overheating i bought a dynamite infrared Temp 🔫 Gun with laser sight with Built-in laser pointer for accurate target aiming Backlit Readout 2% accuracy Celsius or Fahrenheit auto power shut off Automatic data hold Low Battery indicator operates on included 9v battery so do really have to worry about gears stripping driveshaft motor overheating Etc. Etc.Etc.should i shimm my gears and keep mesh tight Also i put loctite on my slipper Clutch blue medium strength🍀

[@HardcoreRC]

15 toot should be ok - only way to be sure is run it for a bit and check the temps with you temp gun

[@troyflanagan4237]

@@HardcoreRC on THE ground or on 1 of Rc stands i saw today on u tube for 6 or 7 minutes before i run it outside first i have to give it good Cleaning with a New product Called Simple green

[@HardcoreRC]

@@Shadows-RC Temps guns are handy - although in the cold cold weather they are less needed unless running really high gearing

[@airguns_rc]

Nice speed runs. I love my Kraton EXB, I am guessing it will have a top speed around 60 plus MPH with my gearing.

[@HardcoreRC]

What motor and gearing ? i have a bigger gear to put in but have been more than happy with the 19 tooth thus far

[@airguns_rc]

@@HardcoreRC I have the Spectrum Smart Technology 2050KV and running on 6S Smart Technology 100C 5,000mAh battery with the stock spur gear and an 18 tooth pinion gear.

[@HardcoreRC]

@@airguns_rc Technical top speed would be around 70 mph, but heat is likely to be an issue on the 2050 kv motor, run her and keep an eye on your temps

[@airguns_rc]

@@HardcoreRC I have a dual fan and heat sink on the motor, but I still will keep an eye on the temps.

[@HardcoreRC]

@@Shadows-RC Larger cans certainly work on the 1/8th cars, but im not sure how strong the smaller diameter can are and how they handle the heat. Saying that Rich Duperbash seems to run the Hobbystar 1650kv well. Have seen a 1100kv 5687 Hobbywing run in a Kraton - it was super rapid, but needs a different motor mount to fit

[@fernandomonte1110]

What's the eletrical combo Talion? Is it original? Original gear and pinion?

[@HardcoreRC]

Yes stock motor and esc and just the 20 tooth speed pinion it comes with

[@fernandomonte1110]

@@HardcoreRC Great, tks

[@rcmains4237]

Nice S4 👌🏼

[@HardcoreRC]

Hehe thanks 👍

[@getsetdrone6921]

Those were some nice passes. What kv motor was that and where was the place you drove the cars, It looks like the perfect place to do speed passes under 100mph.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks. The Talion is was all stock so 2050kv. Both the EXB's where on MAx6 with 1650kv motors, Car Park is a Park and Ride in Essex so nice and quite on a Sunday 👍

[@rceranreuven8261]

Beautiful video. Good speed🚀🤙

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - glad you enjoyed it 👍👍

[@joshpurser4810]

So the talion is bone stock with the speed pinion? I really want a talion does it hold up when bashing? Nice speed runs vuys keep up the good work💯

[@HardcoreRC]

Talion is stock apart from the supplied 20 tooth speed pinion and we also added a Radical RC bash bar as bent the chassis first outing (Normal for Arrma 6s chassis 😂😂). Talion bashes very well, although its not as good for the mega sends and landing on the wheels as harder to control in the air with the smaller tires, check out the previous video with the mud bashing as Talion in action in the woods

[@beastmode4613]

yes it is an alround car you might want to change the arms front and back caus i barly hit the curb and it broke so get that then your good im waiting for my arms to come in so then i can speed run it once on 6s then im put it back on the stock pion i like to bash but its good

[@HardcoreRC]

@@beastmode4613 Not had any issues with the arms thus far, had some hard side landings from 40+ feet as well. Ripped two battery trays out from the side landings, now sporting an EXB battery tray with the extra 3 screws. Always have RPM spare A Arms in the bash bag anyways 👍

[@joshpurser4810]

@@beastmode4613 thanks brother👍

[@iamrasta69]

Great video!!

[@HardcoreRC]

Glad you enjoyed it 👍

[@UDRC85]

Great run guys. 💯👍🏾

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks 👍👍

[@warpumgaming7981]

hasent 4g come to the uk yet? nice video just subbed :)

[@HardcoreRC]

4G as in the cell data service ? yep had that for ages and they are starting to roll out 5G. Thanks for the Sub 👍 really appreciate it

[@warpumgaming7981]

@@HardcoreRC ya phone is showing 3g still lol. I really thought min was 4g now we are on 5g here in oz in many places.

[@HardcoreRC]

@@warpumgaming7981 ahh, just depends on location and signal, most places have 4g but it drops to 3g or worse in some places :) good spot though 👍

[@gioacchinograzzo2479]

Hi l Wanted to ask why the talion with only crown and pinion goes Faster than kraton with combo 6max 1650 kw Thank you

[@AmaanIqbal-px3gv]

Where do u get a arrma talion from I really want one

[@HardcoreRC]

They dont sell this version any more, can only get the EXB Version with black body etc, should be able to get from somewhere like Amain Hobbies: alnk.to/3TYoCZX

[@skyworx524]

Good run Guys.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - enjoyed doing these runs and seeing how fast each one is on concrete

[@rungunrc1306]

I might have missed it, but is the Mojave running on 8s?

[@HardcoreRC]

Nope running on 6s - Max6 can take 8s but the 1650kv motor isn't rated for 8s - Mojave's biggest issues is that the car lifts at 58mph

[@jasoncacallori8365]

Where’d u get that fan on the kraton

[@HardcoreRC]

I build them - did a how to here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYWvnZ5riZaBedU

[@TheTylerjoy04]

What Makes The Talion Faster? I Might Just Get It, Instead Of The Karton...

[@HardcoreRC]

Only the pinon and that it sits lower and has better tires that balloon less, can only get the Talion EXB RTR now as well

[@caymandiver75]

How do you keep the Kraton from popping a wheelie? I have the same setup and every time I try drag racing it pops the front end up.

[@HardcoreRC]

On grass it will likely pop up around 58mph, on tarmac is stays down longer, just have to be gentle on the throttle, watch the tires though, over 60mph and the foams may go

[@tkostang]

@@HardcoreRC try thinner silicone in rear diff and heavier in the front. Also suspension settings - including droop screw settings can have a large effect on handling issues (like unwanted wheelies). I’ve got an arrma Talion with Talion M2c chassis, Kraton shock towers, Kraton exb rear shocks, Talion rear shocks in the front, Kraton tires 3k silicone in the rear, 1Million in the center and 10k silicone in the front diff. Turns well, it’ll wheelie when you really want to but hardly does it by accident.

[@GRIDLOKRC]

Awesome runs guys 👍👍

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - got a bit hairy with the Mojave front keep lifting

[@GRIDLOKRC]

@@HardcoreRC yeah looks pretty cool tho

[@HardcoreRC]

@@GRIDLOKRC Even cooler it it did a full back flip and landed on its wheels 😂😂

[@GRIDLOKRC]

@@HardcoreRC haha that would be cool

[@caymandiver75]

Just went out today for my first speed runs with the same GPS logger, 1650 motor, 50T Spurr and 19t Pinion and was only hitting 50mph. Could it be due to my diff fluids? Running 50k front, 500k center and 30k rear. I went out and picked up a 24t spurr afterwards since I was disappointed in the speed, but haven't got to test it yet.

[@HardcoreRC]

Unlikely to be diff oil as that doesnt effect speed, what car and what tires ? was your run on grass of tarmac ?

[@caymandiver75]

@@HardcoreRC this was with my Arrma Kraton EXB with stock tires on Tarmac.

[@surfside75]

I'm still wondering. Weird that diff oils dont slow vehicles as I was convinced after going from 30k to 50k in the rear and 50k front of my Baja Rey.. Test after was clearly slower and struggled more in turns. Going back to 10k or grease in the rear 30k front. 100k center diff.

[@illhairacing3543]

Where did you get the light bar from on the Mojave??

[@HardcoreRC]

bought it off ebay and then stuck it under the roof: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/148mm-36-LED-Model-Car-Light-Bar-for-Traxxas-Trx4-Axial-SCX10-1-10-RC-Car-uk/124284974161

[@huntire6861]

I keep breaking the body mounts on my exb

[@HardcoreRC]

Im guessing on the Mojave ?? if so then add some foam under the body mount to support it like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGOblo2QiJeZl9k also try spraying with GT85 or WD40 to help make them more flexible

[@surfside75]

Foam under the mounts that extends to the tabs and soak the mounts with wd40 (soak suspension arms as well).. Have not any issues since I did that.

[@highflying82]

Excellent vid .. I'm running max 8 combo in my exb and would be interested to see how quick it is .. very interesting results .. your kraton max 6 exb sounds fantastic on those passes .. cheers for taking time to share .. u seem like your pretty local to me .. perhaps u might want to come and have a bash on our track one Sunday .. check my channel for the madness we get up to .. love ur channel very down to earth and a good reflexion of us hobby bashers .. 😎👍

[@paulclancy2404]

Me too , Mr Trump bought me a max 8 combo for my exb 😆

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks for your kind words, just trying to share the fun we have in this great hobby 👍👍 just checked your channel, very nice 👍👍 is some of that on Dartford Heath ? not sure where the woods are but seems like we could be close - im Kent

[@HardcoreRC]

Nice that was very kind of Mr Trump 👍👍

[@highflying82]

@@HardcoreRC I'm Kent also .. yes dartford heath and the woods are near bexley .. 👍

[@HardcoreRC]

@@highflying82 Sweet - thought it looked like Dartford heath. Yep have to try meet up

[@jimmyjoe1871]

The Talion is a seriously fast Truggy. I get anxiety when I do speed runs….. lol

[@HardcoreRC]

Yes they are seriously fast, so under rated as well

[@rcmakingtracks18]

Haven't watch yet, but Talion...

[@HardcoreRC]

You could be right, but then who knows 😂

[@lucapoehland1958]

The talion doesn’t look like a basher

[@HardcoreRC]

Oh the Talion is a basher - no question about that 👍👍 check out prior videos of it running, also in the woods on the muddy video

[@markmmm1737]

It seems compulsory with the app to say "stop, read" and "track, start". Quit it.

[@HardcoreRC]

I have thought that myself as everyone does it, but tried doing it without and had no way to sync it to my video when bringing it in as an overlay, if just filming the screen from the camera then agree really no need to say it :)

[@eddieroadrunner6691]

What diff fluid do you use

[@HardcoreRC]

Mojave and Kraton EXB are stock, being LSD i dont see the point in changing. Talion is stock front and rear currently and 300k center, once i service the diffs though will put 50k front and 30k rear.

[@eddieroadrunner6691]

Cheers

[@HardcoreRC]

@@eddieroadrunner6691 Your welcome 👍👍 thanks for the support 👍

[@obsessedrc7836]

What's Up Martin

[@HardcoreRC]

Martin ?

[@UAERCADDICTS]

that senton

[@HardcoreRC]

Mojave = Grown up Senton :)

[@rc4life315]

My v4 talion will out run both kratons and my friends Mojave and his typhon but his typhon is fast

[@HardcoreRC]

Talion sure is quick as is the Typhon, i could gear the Kraton EXB upto to beat the Talion but not sure the Copperhead 2 tires on the Kraton would hold up - Talion is just a basher speed king 👍👍

[@BUILTLIGHTWOUNDTIGHT]

Weight = SPEED!!! But the lighter weight it is, the tougher it is to drive fast 😈

[@HardcoreRC]

Also the lighter it is the harder it can bash 👍

[@BUILTLIGHTWOUNDTIGHT]

@@HardcoreRC oh hell yeah!!! I totally agree with you!!! 😎

[@BarstoneRC]

I think I need a Talion lol. It’s going to have to be my next car I think

[@HardcoreRC]

Talion is a great car, harder to control in the air for big jumps though, handles very well round a track

[@imserious2187]

It's just something I don't like about the talion, 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@HardcoreRC]

No RC will please everyone, i wasnt sure on the Talion until we go it, now love it 👍👍

[@imserious2187]

@@HardcoreRC in person is it a lot smaller than the kraton?

[@HardcoreRC]

@@imserious2187 No its the same length and width, just sits lower due to lower shock towers

[@cryptobra5933]

Talion best out here

[@rclife9725]

Tailon all day

[@HardcoreRC]

Love the Talion 👍👍

[@gboulter]

I have to say who cares how fast they are on tarmac. Which is the most fun throwing loose scenery and flying that's what they're all about.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thats tough - both the Kraton EXB and the Talion jump very very well, although the Talion is harder to control in the air for the mega jumps

[@gboulter]

@@HardcoreRC I have to say i believe when it comes to Hooligan bashing Kraton EXB is King after upgrading the few legacy parts from the V4 they left behind.

[@HardcoreRC]

@@gboulter 100% Agree, Kraton EXB is a tanks, drives really well and flies like a dream, no question my number 1 RC atm, all i have done is put M2C chassis and Rear Shock Tower support on

[@gboulter]

@@HardcoreRC I think the 7075 stock chassis is plenty strong enough the only failures I've seen are when the front gearbox has been ripped in half I'm waiting a shipment of Vitavon to insure against that happening.

[@HardcoreRC]

@@gboulter I bent our stock 7075 chassis a couple of times, hence the M2C one, used to use Hot Racing or Vitavon Diff bulkheads until i broke one, then figures i would prefer to replace a £11 part than an £80 part - want a big hit that took the metal diff bulkhead out either. Think Vitavon or HR diff bulkheads are ok on the rear but wouldnt use on the front again Front diff bulkhead breaking is normally down to how the bumper attaches, better to swap it out for an RPM one