Arrma Vorteks vs Granite vs Typhon - Which is best?

[@wynfilms3565]

So I don't have kids, but if i did, man. You're kids are having a blast. You're a great dad.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@reekorichh8919]

So Happy You Made This Video Man , Im So Indecisive On Which 1 Out Of These 3 Kits That I Want

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad this could help!

[@Hungrybird474]

Same here

[@HealthLabChannel]

Loved the video, good work Dad! I own a couple of Traxxas trucks. I purchased the 3S Typhon and I haven’t touched any of my Traxxas since. This Buggy is a Beast!

[@RoadsideRC]

It really is, legitimately, one of the best rcs you can purchase.

[@BoyFindsTako]

From a R/C guy from the 80’s, try this for the Granite. Run the suspension in the rear slightly negative as far as how the A-Arms sit, and for the front suspension, remove the spacers from the top of the shocks so the A-Arms sit in a negative position. Keep the stock tires on, you will be amazed now how difficult it is to flip the Granite on dry asphalt and how much it slides and drifts at 40-50 MPH. It will handle like the typhoon in a sense. The lower the truck better it will handle body roll at high speeds.

[@RoadsideRC]

You are right! Lower cog helps in many ways!

[@ReadySetRC]

Great bash! After seeing y'all bash, I'm leaning to the Typhon 3S 👍

[@RoadsideRC]

That is one vehicle I really like!

[@crosbymalcolm7305]

@Gunnar David Yea, I have been watching on flixzone} for months myself :)

[@kevinmoore994]

Fun video. I was dead set on a Losi Lazernut, but due to all the issues with that rig I’ve been looking at options. I’ll use it on gravel forest roads and the beach. The Typhon is looking pretty good. At 58 years old I’m sure I’ll get some funny looks using that thing. Oh well, stay young…

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! Stay young! I really like the Typhon! Good luck.

[@undertow4629]

Got my son a Vortex's last year for birthday and I loved it so much I bought one too this year. It's my first RC so I don't know what's good or bad but it seems like a sweet little machine

[@RoadsideRC]

They are great trucks!

[@nicethelyrical1529]

Really dope how you introduced the trucks off the jump!💪🏾💯🔥

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@MrTimmyGT]

I've had my Typhon 3s for about 9 months now and I absolutely love it! I've always been more of a monster truck/basher kinda guy so I never really gave the Typhon a second though. But my friend recommended it to me and it is a blast. Super durable, crazy fast and just as fun to bash as a truck. I highly recommend it.

[@MrTimmyGT]

Also if you bump the pinion up on the Typhon to an 18t it will backflip no problem

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes - the Typhon 3S is literally one of the best RC vehicles out there!

[@amaurymartinez6818]

Can I get on Amazon? For $269 ???

[@RoadsideRC]

Not for $269. Itis more.

[@amaurymartinez6818]

I have a green one in my Amazon 🛒 for the price of 269

[@surfside75]

Great video. I just cant decide.. lets go shopping!😂❤ Ok ok im going to pick up the green/blue vorteks.

[@RoadsideRC]

Hard to go wrong with any of the choices. Hope you have fun!

[@rcmakingtracks18]

Brilliant video. Great to see so much rc fun. Never had an issue with my vorteks. Love my granite and thinking of adding the typhon v3 soon. Thanks for sharing.

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the nice comment.

[@Murphys_Law9]

all three or 1 Kraton 8s EXB 🥲

[@rovidbouski4022]

Check the gear mesh on the vorteks, its almost always too tight out of the box causing too much resistance at the motor and sucking down voltage, causing overheating

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! One of the first things I ever did when I got the truck!

[@smitheshn6637]

My pick would be Typhoon

[@RoadsideRC]

It is my favorite!

[@Kevin-Kx]

Typhon 3S owner here, all are so cool, i like the stunt capabilities of the Granite, but when done right, and the right ramp, the Typhon can do all those things, its so universal, it can race, compete, and bash like a granite, love that car Vorteks is an amazing rig, but the price difference is too much for me ahaha!

[@RoadsideRC]

I understand that for sure. I just put some different tires on the Vorteks, and would really like to try them on the Typhon also.

[@Kevin-Kx]

@@RoadsideRC i put some street tires on it a while ago, it looked mean and drove alright, stock tires are great though for all around driving aswell!

[@CookieManCookies]

There is a setting for punch, that determines when the ESC starts to throttle the power to the motor when temps get high, it has levels 1 (most sensitive) to 5 (least sensitive). You could try running a speed run, and then checking the ESC and Motor temps with a infared temp sensor. Maybe the ESC has been tuned to stop sooner, or perhaps.. the fans on the other two are stronger/better? I noticed if I do 2-5 speed runs across a football field, the ESC/Motor will turn off on my Senton 3S BLX 4WD, I'm using 50C 3S 5000 mAh G2 batteries. I know on the Vortek, you can turn on the Telemetry to get some data on what's going on inside the RC.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! It is not an overheat trigger, it is a low-voltage cutoff trigger. I have since done more testing and it has shown that a higher quality battery will not have the same issue as a lower quality battery in the same vehicle.

[@SpeedSyko]

I bought a senton roller, mixed all the cars into one, with Traxxas front steering linkage. 0 slop.

[@RoadsideRC]

That might be right - the Senton is the mix of all of them!

[@SpeedSyko]

@@RoadsideRC I put the longer arms on it, granite bumpers typhon body and wing. Senton tires and a mamba x sensored 6s system in it I only run 3s. It doesn’t flip but it sails very far off jumps. I think then any rc I own. My yard is about your size and I’ve gone over the fence into the other yard. Have to be careful. GREAT VIDEO’s MY DUDE!!!!!

[@yonicozac]

Can you please share the part number for the Traxxas link?

[@Hippie2936]

This was the exact video i was looking for. Thank you!

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad it was helpful!

[@warpspeed9.985]

I have 2 granites and the #1 cheap upgrade for them was putting Typhon turnbuckles and a-arms on them. Gotta be honest, almost completely eliminates roll overs. And it's a super cheap upgrade. Especially if you go with the non adjustable Mega turnbuckles.

[@philthyco1]

It's the wide kit for the granite ..Must have

[@RoadsideRC]

That is a good idea!!!

[@seanhamilton4175]

The non adjustable Typhon Mega turnbuckles?

[@Starkster50]

The Granite lower control arms are stronger then the Typhon, if your going to bash the Tyhon there's a video of how to use Kraton 6S control arms with some small modifications.

[@gihonda127]

Good video, I am on the fence with the Vorteks and the Typhon. In one of your other vids, I saw you test out the Vorteks on the track and it did ok. I have a friend who has a track and I am doing serious research on this one. I have never had a buggy, so I am hopeful it'll be awesome. I had a Traxxas T max 2.5 nitro when I was stationed in Ft. Leonard Wood, Mo and it was great, until a neighbor up our street ran it over with her minivan. Then after that it got too expensive to drive. Anyway I have gotten back into the RC hobby and appreciate your comparison videos. Keep up the good work, and I enjoy how much your kids are enjoying sharing the time with you with the RC's!

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! That is what got me started in RC - having fun with my kids. If you take it to a track, 100% get the Typhon. It is MUCH better around the track.

[@kle2217]

The 1/8 scale Typhon doesn’t look much bigger then the other 1/10 scale cars. Is the Typhon very big? Or perhaps a little longer?

[@RoadsideRC]

The Typhon is the same physical size as the Big Rock.

[@RdkAllDAY98]

Have you the granite tires on the Vorteks? I’m curious how much more it wants to flip in air

[@RoadsideRC]

I never did try that.

[@tbok75]

I'm getting a Vorteks within s couple weeks. Coming off a Losi XX buggy from 94 (for sale by the way) this is my first return to rc since then. I wanted a rustler since they came out but i want the Vorteks. If i were still into buggies i would grab the Typhon

[@RoadsideRC]

Makes sense! I hope you enjoy it.

[@samuelsmith3178]

Nice video. Just a question me and my son are new at this how many batteries did you go thru on this session? Seems like you had a long time running.

[@RoadsideRC]

Hmmm. Really good question. I honestly don't remember. Typically, when my kids and I go out bashing, we will use 2-3 batteries per vehicle.

[@samuelsmith3178]

@@RoadsideRC thanks brother

[@redblue40rc33]

Is all the parts interchangeable to the chassis on the 3s line up?....seems like you can convert a typhon to a granite, etc??????

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! They are very interchangeable.

[@lnfxrrno-7263]

I have had the typhon 3s for a week now and it’s amazing, but I do recommend buying upgrade front shocks and shock mounts, my shocks bent really easily since they are at the very front. My servo died a couple days ago, it overheated with the grass and stuff in it.

[@RoadsideRC]

Bent shock shafts do happen, for sure. Basically the same shocks on all of these vehicles, so the same issues.

[@fergsrcenjoyinglife352]

Got my vorteks just the other day. Thank you for the tips on what to check

[@RoadsideRC]

Happy to help!

[@johntierneyjr.47]

I'm running a 6500mah 80c seem to be having the same issue

[@RoadsideRC]

Honestly, I found the exact specs didn't matter. I had a "good" battery based on the specs...but the brand was not as good, or it was old - then it would do the same thing.

[@IThinkNowListenUp]

When purchasing for kids, which has best balance of them having fun and least long term expense (including upfront cost and regularly replacing parts that they break)

[@RoadsideRC]

My 7-year old drives the Typhon. The reasoning here is how much easier it Iis to control in the air. It is much easier than the previous vehicles he has had to ensure it lands on the wheels. We typically run it on 2S.

[@yiarkungfu]

Excellent comparison. I have the Granite and Senton and now I want the Typhon 6s.

[@RoadsideRC]

Great! I hope you like it! Just to be sure - what I show in this video is the Typhon 3S, not 6S.

[@michaeljames3393]

Great tutorial, thanks! My vorteks wouldn't pair .. I will try again with this guide. Thanks

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad to help!

[@ubreakitirepairit3569]

What batteries are you using in the Vorteks and what’s the C rating? Only other thing I could think of is bad caps. Caps help with preventing voltage sag.

[@RoadsideRC]

It is a common issue with the newer Spektrum ESCs. Seems some of them come with a very sensitive LVC. When I run high-c rated rated batteries, no issue. Older batteries or lower c-rating = early cutoff. Seems like just a voltage sag issue.

[@ubreakitirepairit3569]

@@RoadsideRC oh okay. I have a newer Vorteks less than a year old. I run 2S Zee 50c and 3S Zee 120c. Haven’t had that issue.

[@roymoxley2037]

Check the throttle trim if you haven't already

[@RoadsideRC]

For what issue?

[@roymoxley2037]

@@RoadsideRC The issue with the Vortex just bought one haven't ran it yet but when setting it up kept getting a red light on the speed controller till I adjusted the throttle trim could be wrong first r.c. in a while just a suggestion

[@letseewhathappens101]

Think I'm going to go with the vorteks it seems to be way more stable in the corners then the others.

[@RoadsideRC]

The Vorteks is a solid choice! Hope you enjoy it!

[@lukerecore3211]

I have a granite v3 and I use spectrum smart batteries and its a animal 50c 5000mah 3s. I like my ARRMA granite v3.

[@RoadsideRC]

Granite is a fun truck!

[@rudydye2654]

What batteries did you have running in the vorteks?

[@RoadsideRC]

I have run a lot of them over time. Here is a test I did: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3LXmq2QlpxkmZo

[@RayRiv73]

The Typhon is the most versatile vehicle...you can easily truggify it by adding bigger tires like the MX28 badlands and easily do flips. Thats why i bought one.

[@RoadsideRC]

I agree

[@jeffarab4947]

Mi typhon lugnut is so tight is urs like that

[@RayRiv73]

@Jeff Arab I sold mine a few months ago but I don't remember it being overtightened.

[@jeffarab4947]

@@RayRiv73 oh ok yes its great and u got something new now

[@answerace]

I'm looking at Arrmas but was eyeing the big rock. How would it compare to the granite or vorteks

[@RoadsideRC]

The Big Rock is a good mix. Longer wheelbase, larger tires, should be a fun truck!

[@jimmyv1753]

I’ve been rocking the Granite for a few months and it has been by far the most durable RC I’ve ever had. I’ve busted up a cheetah a J3 speed. (Gotta Love the JLB power) but they don’t hold up very well. The 144001 of course also a few very expensive ZD trucks and buggies that are insanely cheaply made. But the granite keeps Coming back for more so I’m getting another Arrma this video might just decide which I get

[@RoadsideRC]

Awesome - glad you have been enjoying the Granite.

[@TheflyingkiwiRC]

Hey man nice video. Great that you include the kids. I've had a Vorteks for a week now and haven't experienced the LVC you have been getting. I'm only running a 3700mah 35c 3s battery and don't get any cut outs. I did notice the engine was particularly hot after a bash session yesterday but my final session of the day last night I did 60% of a battery and it didn't get too hot. I run it alongside my Big Rock which does seem to stay a bit cooler. I hope the Vorteks stays reliable because I love driving it.

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting! Thanks for the feedback. What brand is your battery?

[@TheflyingkiwiRC]

@@RoadsideRC It's a Giant Power. I have 2 of them. Most of my running is short bursts, jumping no prolonged top speed running. I do that and the battery only lasts about 6 minutes.

[@RoadsideRC]

That makes more sense. As long as I drive in the short bursts also, it is fine. It is just the long full-throttle hits.

[@TheflyingkiwiRC]

@@RoadsideRC Yes agreed. Infact twice with my Big Rock I've hit what I thought was LVC only to have 45% left and that was 2 of the rare times I'm doing an open field run. Maybe that just muddys the waters lol. I enjoyed your speed run vid too. Seems the Vorteks has some ironing out first. Some real world durability over time will soon tell.

[@SuperJsToysChannel]

could you please measure the wheel diameter of vorteks? thx

[@RoadsideRC]

4.5" / 115mm

[@SuperJsToysChannel]

@@RoadsideRC thank you very much

[@saltylocal6917]

Nice vid! If you could only afford to buy one, which would you buy; Vorteks, Big Rock or Typhon? For drivability, jumping, off-road (dirt and grass) and general bashing? The RC will be for my 6 year old son’s Birthday, so it’s kind of a big deal on getting him something he’ll handle and not hate the hobby.

[@RoadsideRC]

Hands down the Typhon in that situation. The Typhon you see here is actually my 7-year old son's vehicle. It handles GREAT, which means less going out and flipping it over. Smaller kids tend to not understand they need to slow down for corners. With something like the Big Rock, it will be on it's roof A LOT. The Vorteks can be a good option also - but since the Typhon comes with the 17mm hexes straight out of the box, you will have more tire and wheel choices.

[@toddleavitt3366]

Been looking hard at aarma trucks. I just got back into RC trucks after 20 years. A buddy and I got some Bezgar trucks which are great little trucks but looking Aarma for a bigger truck

[@RoadsideRC]

It is hard to go wrong with the 3S lineup!

[@GreatLakesRC]

Awesome! 3s triple threat 👌 Love your thoughts. I'm actually planning on putting the Vorteks tires on my Big Rock. Hopefully it will give me a bit better handling and still have the jumping capability 😀

[@RoadsideRC]

Nice idea! I have a set of Pro-line badlands for the Vorteks!

[@ajgreen868]

You’ll have to gear differently with them tires. I’d recommend the granite tires for the big rock.

[@roadstar499]

why can't you use a program card and set low voltage lower if the esc is power hungrey??? i did that with a drone years ago..

[@RoadsideRC]

I still want the LVC to work appropriately. It is not set too high, it is the quality of the batteries.

[@rogerwilco5187]

Also the "nice" people at Arrma/Horizon Hobby unfortunately don't include that option on these ESCs. They have a very limited set of programming options.

[@jrc-fabs1634]

Love the vids you’ve been putting out lately they are awesome and hard not to watch the whole thing

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for that feedback!

[@elchappo1320]

How do these compare to traxxas maxx/stampede?

[@RoadsideRC]

The Maxx and Stampede are two VERY different vehicles. The Hoss & Stampede are basically the same vehicle - and both built on a chassis design that is decades old. Truly an outdated chassis. At the $400 sales price they are still asking, it is honestly ridiculous. The Maxx is a much newer design vehicle that is really nice. Problem is the price tag. At $570...that is a HEAVY price premium over the Arrma 3S lineup. I have owned all of these vehicles - and have sold the Maxx and Stampede and kept the Arrma 3S lineup. Just food for thought.

[@VinceCrim]

Nice look at the new kid on the block. Sticking with the Typhon in the 3S realm

[@RoadsideRC]

Agree! The Typhon 3S is such a great vehicle.

[@joevozzo1]

hey just brought typhon 3s i would update the pinion i was thinking 18tooth i do run all grass which gear would do recomend thanks

[@RoadsideRC]

I have honestly never changed the stock gearing. Give it a shot first on 3S and see if you really think you need to change it or not.

[@DelightedCuttz]

What's Happening Captain Hopefully All's Well I have the Granite..still working on balancing it out. One of my goals is to convert it into a short course basher ..lol My next Arrma Giant was definitely The Typhon since I'm converting my Granite then Vortex and then Big Rock. Not all at once but in that order. Another goal is to race and bash everything from Arrma pretty much. #yesyes

[@RoadsideRC]

Sounds like you have good goals! Keep it up!

[@DaiPMan]

Great video! Im digging the Typhon!🚗🚗

[@RoadsideRC]

I really do like it!

[@DelightedCuttz]

I have the Granite and I'm getting the rest of the Arrma line up ... I Love my V2 upgraded to V3 Granite...my next vehicle will be a Typhon 6s

[@RoadsideRC]

Great! Hope you enjoy it!

[@adamdieter3714]

I just bought me a Vorteks, what is a good battery that would last longer, mine only last about 10-15.

[@RoadsideRC]

You need higher mah, and higher c-rating. Something like this: www.amazon.com/dp/B097C2J4MJ/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_apa_glt_i_BGJXPPB2DZCAM7092910?linkCode=ml2&tag=roadsiderc-20

[@wallacengineering8096]

I think its the higher gearing combined with fairly large tires. The Typhon can get away with the speed because its so small and lightweight. The Vorteks is so high geared out of the box for a 3S Stadium Truck/Truggy. Several tests have hit 55 MPH even without the optional high speed pinion. Maybe for general bashing drop the pinion by 2 teeth, then get a good 3S Pack with 6000mAH and 60C or more discharge rating and the truck should run much better.

[@adamdieter3714]

@@wallacengineering8096 thank you for the advice I’m going to buy me a 15t pinion gear and I’m buying Gen Ace bashing lipos

[@wallacengineering8096]

@@adamdieter3714 No prob man, remember that you don't need a batt quite THAT powerful. Gens Ace Basher series cost a lot of money. A single 3S 6800mAH will cost you $100. I picked up 2x Hoovo Hard Case 3S 6500mAH 120C off Amazon for $80 and they are fantastic, reviews all seem positive as well.

[@kl0udykl0ud55]

@roadside rc did you ever figure out the low voltage issue?

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! The ESC is VERY sensitive to voltage drop on weak packs. Stepping up to new battery packs that were 80C plus completey solved it.

[@dv86sr54]

Awesome video! What would I need to add the Vorteks body on the Granite? I wanted to put the purple body on my daughters Granite. Thank you!

[@RoadsideRC]

You would need the body and the body mounts. I did an unboxing livestream, and actually set the body on it. It ALMOST lined up with the Granite body mounts. If you are OK cutting new holes, you wouldn't even need the body mounts.

[@dv86sr54]

@@RoadsideRC Thank you! I can’t find the body posts anywhere. Do you know where to find a set?

[@RoadsideRC]

@@dv86sr54 So far, I have had good luck going directly to Horizon Hobby.

[@Hungrybird474]

So far I got the granite and like it . Next sometime down the road , typhon

[@RoadsideRC]

Makes sense to me! Glad you like the Granite!

[@phillybrc]

That Typhon just sails. Love it

[@RoadsideRC]

It really does! One of my favorite vehicles, period

[@christopherrice1375]

Good video. Thanks!

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you!

[@yadoshi]

Is the Senton or the Typhon better?

[@RoadsideRC]

I personally am not a fan of the short course style truck due to how much mess it creates. EVERYTHING gets caught under the body. I'd go Typhon all day long!

[@itrkaki]

nice video,trying to decide between the big rock v3 and the vorteks.i think i'? going für the vorteks! which batterie did you run in this video? brand &specs?

[@RoadsideRC]

Great choice! I would suggest running a good quality battery. I have had good luck with Ovonic 3s lipos, and many people seem happy with the Spektrum smart batteries. Here is a link to the Ovonic 3S: amzn.to/3c4011V

[@jxz80]

The problem of the mysterious lvc problem is clear. The truck is over geared which using pinion 18 instead of 15 on other s3 arrma vehicles.

[@RoadsideRC]

I know also have the speed pinion in it...but in the others also. A higher quality battery fixed the issue for me.

[@philthyco1]

Granite for doing stunts but all around i'd pick the typhon

[@philthyco1]

Your kids are going to grow and be like Rich Duperbash!!!!

[@RoadsideRC]

Agree 100% - the Typhon is really hard to beat. My kids - some days they surprise me how good they are...other days not.

[@philthyco1]

@@RoadsideRC It's a learning curve for sure lol.. but they got an early start

[@nate4024]

Nice video but why no bigrock

[@RoadsideRC]

Because I didn't have one.

[@rcboys619]

Great video brotha

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@jordanjohnson5784]

Is that an old E30 I spot in the frame above the tool box?? 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@RoadsideRC]

You nailed it!!

[@SeeJayAre]

Having the same issue with my Vorteks… Completely agree the Typhon 3s is still my favorite in the 3s lineup.

[@RoadsideRC]

It seems the issue comes down to the quality of the battery. Seems we need really good quality batteries.

[@SeeJayAre]

@@RoadsideRC yeah weird, I’ve never had any issues using the same battery on the rest of the 3s line.

[@rogerwilco5187]

@@SeeJayAre Ditto.

[@patmarcus172]

It might be different for you but have you tested where the LVC point is on the vorteks ? Mine appears to be set super high at 3.8 versus a much lower point on my Big Rock. And that plus the more power hungry EsC is the problem. Apparently there is a spektrum programming card available that will allow you to reset the LVC as you can’t do it from the menus on the truck itself.

[@rogerwilco5187]

@@patmarcus172 How did you check the LVC setting on your esc? I've checked mine by running the car slowly with a multimeter connected until the LVC tripped and checked the lowest voltage my multimeter recorded during the run, which was 10.32V, so 3.44V/cell which I thought was about right but I can't find any info what the LVC voltage should actually be.

[@rcnetherlands5529]

Love it! Are there majour weaknesses on the granite?

[@RoadsideRC]

Not really!

[@rcbasherpodcast898]

I wonder if Arrma over geared the Vorteks. That would explain the getting hot and sucking down the lipo.

[@RoadsideRC]

I agree. It is basically a Granite...but goes much faster. Seems logical that it is mostly in the gearing and the more powerful ESC.

[@jcraft797panos4]

I have the Vorteks and love it. Running into the same battery issue. Have you found the reason? Great video!

[@RoadsideRC]

It is all in the quality of the battery. Seems folks running Gens Ace and Spektrum 50C+ batteries are not having the issue.

[@ericpeterson9676]

@@RoadsideRC I have never had this problem . 5000mAh 11.1v 20c

[@rogerwilco5187]

@@RoadsideRC I have the same LVC issue with my Vorteks, but not my Typhon. My Gens Ace 5500mAh 50C battery is actually worst of all. It lasts all of about 10 seconds. My other batteries are 6000mAh 50C HRBs and I get around 30 seconds with them. So I've bought a new 8000mAh 100C DXF battery to try and also put in a 15t pinion. These work together very well in my Vorteks and I now get very good run times, but it's an extra expense that shouldn't be needed.

[@patmarcus172]

@@rogerwilco5187 took our vorteks out for its first park run today. Aware it was power hungry bought it a brand new CNHL Racing 6200 100c battery. Lasted less than 10 mins with only a couple of full throttle runs. With less potent and lower capacity batteries with more full throttle activity, my Big Rock will last for 30 mins. Really disappointed for my daughter as her first proper RC.

[@rogerwilco5187]

@@patmarcus172 That's really disappointing. I don't know why there's such an enormous difference between the Vorteks and the Typhon or Big Rock. My Typhon is the original version so it doesn't have the Spektrum electronics. Which is in your Big Rock? I know on testing both motors out of the cars that the Spektrum motor used a little more power than the older Arrma motor, but even with the Typhon motor in the Vorteks it still used considerably more power than when it's in the Typhon. Also using a different ESC wasn't any better. The one thing that helped the most was dropping the pinion from the 18t to a 15t. I'd hate to see how it does with the 20t pinion. Also both diffs in mine were scraping and binding badly so that was adding extra load in the beginning. I've run out of ideas.

[@rcnetherlands5529]

Does the granite backflip easier than the vortex or Does the vortex have more rotation in the air?

[@RoadsideRC]

The Granite would backflip easier with the bigger tires.

[@cds1223]

Ive gotta 120amp max10 in my helion avenge and it tends to hit that low voltage easy under lots of throttle too. Idk if its the batteries or how much power the motor i have in it sux from it. This is the first vid ive seen sharing that particular issue. Cool vid. Thanx for sharing 👍

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! I have done more testing since, and it seems directly correlated to the quality of the battery. Example: I have two batteries from the same manufacturer, almost same mah. One is 50C, one is 80c. The 80C battery does fine, the 50C stops early.

[@cds1223]

@@RoadsideRC ive just got 2 3s packs. 1 venom 35c and 1 Zee 80c. Your prob right but the 4300kv 3660 surpass im running is probly adding to it. It says 100amps on the spec sheet and thats quite a bit more than all the other on the sheet being the kv is so high. I know im breaking the rules lol but man that thing is rowdy! Im actually gonna get a lower kv and a brand new battery next. Wide open throttle is seriously just a bit ridiculous with this set up. Thanx for the info. Liked and subbing👍

[@jeffreyscales7891]

Is the Granite brushless or brushed??

[@RoadsideRC]

Brushless. It was a Mega that was converted.

[@Houleigan]

Awesome bash session! Looked like fun for all!

[@RoadsideRC]

It sure was!

[@Houleigan]

@@RoadsideRC On another note, I just bought a Brand new Arrma 6s Typhon roller from Ebay! $400 USD (just under with shipping and all)

[@kevincarpette5009]

N I C E !!! I wish the Hard Rock was in this too.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! I don't have the Big Rock...yet!

[@kevincarpette5009]

@@RoadsideRCNo problem just remember to add this video to make our Dreams come true Lol

[@TheharibokidXD]

i own the granite and senton, i orignally started watching this video to see if the vorteks was worth it. but now im thinking typhon instead. Thank you for making this video

[@RoadsideRC]

Great! Glad it was useful! I even saved you some $$$ since the Typhon is cheaper!

[@DHoppey10]

Trying to decide on getting a vorteks but now im kinda leaning towards the typhon

[@jeffarab4947]

@@DHoppey10 did u get typhon

[@Starkster50]

I have the Granite, Typhon and Senton in my 3S collection and for messing round the house bashing you can't beat the Granite, I adjusted the wheel alignment and put a 20t pinion with dual fans and it rips, it stable enough for speed runs on our local soccer fields and it's fast, the Senton has a 26t I believe but it's pretty wild and flips a lot, I have even driven the Typhon, I'm saving it for speed runs because it's not built as beefy as the trucks. The Vortek I just didn't buy it doesn't appeal to me in any way. I'm sure it has its place just not with me.

[@RoadsideRC]

You are letting the BEST one of the three just sit there!!! It is just as strong as the others - but handles better! Get it out and use it!

[@Starkster50]

@@RoadsideRC it still has the wrapping on it, I ordered tires and wheels for the street, a aftermarket motor plate so I can mill the slots for a 28-30t pinion, I will lower it and then I will speed test it. I borrowed this combo from MrMad2424, he ran 81.1 mph with only a pinion change so if I can meet or beat it I'll be very happy. If I make 90+ mph with stock car I will retire it and start something else. I really recommend a 20t for the Granite with a good fan. Mine never got over 120 degrees running hard. That Vortek might surprise you as well with a gear change. I have a 6S mojave with the optional speed pinion in it and the Granite is almost as fast on the back wheels. And this is not on pavement. It's on soccer fields. About 400 yards of golf course ty]e grass. The changes really woke these vehicles up into missiles.

[@stevewest7260]

Really like the Typhon. Had and sold the Granite, got tired of going and putting it back on it's wheels.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! It does bounce a fair amount, and flip over easily. My buddy just put Typhon arms on his Granite - drives completely differently!

[@brandad101]

I got the vortex, I ran it for about 10 minutes. I was not even doing any crazy jumps at all. It tumbled once and the shock broke. I can't even drive the thing because Arma says the shocks are unavailable period and apparently I can't find anything online that is compatible. Does anyone have a good website to find shocks for the vortex. Thanks in advance. Awesome bash - by the way

[@RoadsideRC]

I responded to your other message yesterday. Sent you a link to where you could buy some.

[@dexxeve9420]

Was looking at getting one or two of these rc's. And your video really shows off quite nicely the capability of them all, in different feats. Prob the nicest quick round-up. Even better then some pro-RC's channels. Just thought to tell you. All the way from Australia :) The Vorteks seems to not be the best handling or landing, it appears unstable compared to the others ? Is that the case or still getting used to it ?

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the compliment! After swapping to different tires on the Vorteks, it has actually become very driveable. I am not sure if I was still getting used to it, or if it was the tires. I have really enjoyed the truck ever since.

[@dexxeve9420]

@@RoadsideRC I guess the tires didn't grip that well. If you have all that power but can't put it down then yea deff eschews the performance. What tires did you end up going with? And with the new tires is it more rustler 4x4 handling the bite of the tires. Also be cool if you did an update on the vortex, ie with tires helping and more thoughts on it. Glad you liked the compliments, as I feel it's true. And your kids have great skill with the brushless power i must say. Proud dad hey

[@drivenrc]

Are you using 3s spectrum batteries across all three?

[@RoadsideRC]

Nope - all 3 were using the same Povway batteries.

[@SuperJsToysChannel]

Great video. I've been looking for this video for a while. I have a 3S TYPHON and 6S KRATON. Typhon's wheels are too small to run on winter grass. While Kraton is too big too heavy for me. I probably will get one vorteks.

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad this was helpful! You have 2 great vehicles right now!

[@timothywitt6132]

I got a 3s granite a few weeks ago and when I got it I tried my goldbat 3w 3200mah plane batteries and had the same lvc issue but once my 5200mah 3s came in I haven't had an issue. Also the c ratings on my new ones were obviously higher since I got them for the truck specifically and I thought maybe the esc was trying to pull power to quick and the discharge rating wasn't able to keep up.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you! Yes - I believe that is exactly the issue I have going on here.

[@patmarcus172]

@@RoadsideRC having done more research I actually don’t. I do think the plane batteries weren’t potent enough for the granite but I think the vorteks probably is entirely down to where the LVC is set on some batches of the vorteks. Having now tested mine with several different lipos, all in excellent condition, that have only ever been balance charged, they are all showing LVC at around 3.8v whereas on the Big Rock it doesn’t kick in til a much lower point. I think say an 8000mah or above (if you can find one that fits) would mask this but you’d still hit the same cut off point.

[@basquechutaz1979]

From your experience I'd remove the one with constant low voltage and add the senton 3S to your treo.

[@RoadsideRC]

I've had the Senton as well - just didn't when I made this video.

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

Check diff binding

[@RoadsideRC]

For the Vorteks? It has been just that ESC is more sensitive to lower quality batteries than the others. Good quality battery = no troubles.

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

@@RoadsideRC all my arrma lvc at 3.7 so I turn off turn on and run at 50 or 75% for 10min more run time then it cuts at 3.3 or 3.5

[@christopherpasko7670]

I love the vortex!! Only true problem 4 me is i drive on the street just as much on grass and dirt but it's got do much power my tires went bald FAST. But i love it. Does anybody have any recommendations on what is one of the best tires or all purpose tire 4 the vortex?

[@RoadsideRC]

Running on asphalt will always wear the tires down fast. I would recommend doing the 17mm hex swap on it ( I have a video on how to do that) and then running 1/8 buggy tires on it. In that 1/8 buggy size, there is EVERY tire thought of. From on-road specific tires, to mixed use, to full off road. It gives you MANY choices in tires.

[@MrDngrsdave]

I have a typhon mega v3 (no 3s typhons available in my state thanks to covid) and I love it so much! I abuse the hell out of it and it has not broken a thing yet. I am ordering parts next week to make it a 3s to get more speed and do bigger jumps

[@RoadsideRC]

Awesome! Good luck!

[@ljsmixbox44]

For bashing I would go with the Granite not the Typhon because the Typhon shocks are to exposed for damage.

[@RoadsideRC]

The Granite is also a good choice for sure!

[@patmarcus172]

Most people fit a front bumper (like the granite one) to offer some protection

[@ljsmixbox44]

@@patmarcus172 Yes 👍

[@jeffarab4947]

Yes that is the issue I have with mine if u go full speed and hit a curb that will be broke but just becareful

[@jeffarab4947]

Typhon is awesome at all terrain mild.jumps speed is great its faster then those other 2

[@danfast23]

Great video !

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@danfast23]

@@RoadsideRC hello buddy, I'm very excited to get one of those, I'm considering granite or vortex, for some reason my eyes are on granite model, could you please help me to decide, this will be my first rc car

[@RoadsideRC]

@@danfast23 Honestly, all three of these are really good. Things to always consider: - Where will you drive it? How rough is the surface. Rougher surface means you probably want a taller vehicle, bigger tires. - How will you be driving it? Speed runs, sliding on dirt, jumping? That leads you to what vehicle would be best. Hope this helps!

[@danfast23]

@@RoadsideRC thanks buddy !

[@bespincustompropsbombarta8300]

Thought the Vorteks had the 130 amp esc that the db pro and LMT use, if so use the spektrum 100c battery.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yep! I am pretty sure it is the battery not being strong enough.

[@paulclancy2404]

Nope 100 amp. Come in arrma another 10 bucks , i put that system in my bigrock bc it clogged in my dbpro.

[@bespincustompropsbombarta8300]

@@paulclancy2404 clogged? I know the esc is 4s capable but the motor in the db pro is not.

[@paulclancy2404]

@@bespincustompropsbombarta8300 cogged i meant, it's like a stutter , a loss in low end power .

[@bespincustompropsbombarta8300]

@@paulclancy2404 ah, I checked my db and has a 130 amp esc fitted, thought they used the same one on the Vorteks. Also cogging sounds like the motor pinion is too close and tightly positioned.

[@tntalex28]

Its the one which puts the biggest smile on your face. For me it is the typhon.

[@RoadsideRC]

I agree with you!

[@RCCaveStudios]

Honestly I had all of them and all of them is a must have even though the typhon is definitely on a whole other level then those and the big rock they are all fun as heck !!!!!! Getting into details I would say the best one built would be the VORTEKS in my opinion :)

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! I have really enjoyed the Vorteks so far.

[@lincolndavid6769]

Your videos are the best

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you!

[@jamaicarctv9587]

nice video man like the rig

[@RoadsideRC]

Me too! Thanks!

[@islandrc-duke1972]

Awesome RCs and bashing

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you!

[@gillmccuddy]

Mabe try it with another battery. My granite does somethin similar with 1 bunk battery i have. The charger says the battery is fine. But it dont work right in the truck. Any other battery its fine.

[@RoadsideRC]

You nailed it! Since this video, I swapped to a different (higher-C battery) and it has worked flawlessly!

[@gillmccuddy]

@@RoadsideRC thats good to know. Thanks for sharing.

[@craigbu7755]

I run a Typhon 3s with 23mm axel extenders and 120mm dia truggy wheels/tyres, handles even better,especially in long grass and jumps n flips much better. Plus it's only a cheap upgrade.

[@RoadsideRC]

That is right! I will put larger tires on this one at some point!

[@oldskoolrc-m7k]

I was torn between them mt10 rival and the granite but I think the granite is def making me lean in its direction since watching this… plus I think it’s got a bigger top speed with 48mph

[@RoadsideRC]

Both are solid trucks from what I hear. Obviously, I have personally owned the Granite. But I never have owned the MT10. From what I hear, and with my experience from the MT8 - I might give the overall performance to the MT10. One of my issues with the Granite is that it rarely "sticks" a landing. It tends to bounce a lot from large jumps. Watching other folks' videos, the MT10 seems more planted and composed in those situations. I guess it all depends on driving style and where you are going to be though! The wealth of knowledge around upgrades and mods for the Arrma 3S lineup is certainly worth something also.

[@VaLULrant]

I don't have the vorteks yet but I have a pretty modified granite, and a stock typhon 3s and I feel like the granite doesn't get enough love. If you stiffen up those shocks you can make it handle pretty identical to the typhon. I'm definitely getting a vorteks next but I LOVE my granite. My first big suggestion is to stiffen up those shocks in your granite and it won't roll, mine hardly EVER rolls over, granted it's also on the low setting with RPM Suspension Arms but I have TLR 60k in the front and TLR 80k in the back which some people would say is way too stiff but honestly it handles 30x better on even the worst terrain in my big foresty Alabama back yard. For reference I run the same weights in my Typhon and it also makes it handle just ridiculous and gets rid of the chassis slap when bashing.

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting! Thanks for the tips!

[@WoodsUnknown]

Awesome video. I really like the granite cause it looks like my Hosim 9155. Now I'm just searching for a good battery with high C. I took the 1000mah 25c out of my brushless 2845 and put it in my 9155 and it woke it up really wheelies now. Can I put a 100c 2s battery in it?

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes, a battery like that should work. Most of it is just finding a battery that actually fits.

[@SpeedSyko]

I hated the granite at first, once I got used to it and put HOT RACING REAR DRIVESHAFTS ON IT ATF288RC, and bullet proofed the body, Then figured out it self rights better then any Traxxas, I’m leaning toward that one as my favorite “granite” the upgrades lol. But the real king#1BIG ROCK!

[@RoadsideRC]

I really should try the Hot Racing shafts! What mods did you do to the Granite body?

[@paulclancy2404]

I just , gorilla taped with hear gun, you can go crazy by using drywall tape and shoegoo , but tape worked fine the body lasted longer than I wanted lol 😆

[@rickrogers2649]

They are all cool but I think I'd pick the Granite. Kids were really getting good at the jumps as the video went on.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! Yes - the kids have their good days and bad days! :)