How to start a tank during extreme conditions | Arsenalen Swedish Tankmuseum

[@dandahermitseals5582]

I'm a retired owner operator long haul trucker. I ran into the Yukon and the NWTs and Yellow knife. We had propane fired engine heaters or left them running at the truck stops while we slept. Dandahermit

[@robertraman6307]

-47 is the coldest I’ve seen outside Kiruna. My grandfather started his truck by building a fire under the oil pan and used the metal wire from the crane to rotate the back wheel because the battery was to weak to crank. His advice when you get stuck or your truck won’t start - build a fire, eat some of the sandwiches your wife made you and drink coffee while you figure out a solution:)

[@Gorgmeister]

Grandfathers always find a solution! :D

[@bryanlatimer-davies1222]

It is really easy, light fire under engine agreed, put burning rag in air intake, find six friends and the starting crank, OK I prefer grandfathers idea after all !

[@thomas7770]

Back in my day we put the horses in sleeping bags to keep them warm.

[@HATECELL]

The Bv206 is the perfect civilian vehicle for Sweden. You can reasonably comfortable seat 4 in the front, if you're late for work you can take a shortcut through the river, and on the back you can put a little RV-cabin to sleep on your workplace's car park in case you're not feeling like going home only to get up at 3AM to preheat the darn thing

[@LN997-i8x]

That built-in ether injection system is brilliant! My grandfather used to tell us how (in the 1940's) they used to drain the oil out of the car between uses in the winter. The engine oil in those days would get so thick in the cold that it would prevent you from cranking the engine fast enough to start it. So, they'd heat the oil on the stove before putting it back in the car.

[@TheDiner50]

If they had a heater garage then they had not needed too. We had a oil burner running 24/7 in the garage :) Only since oil heating got to expensive did we not do that. Honestly it is a descent idea to do it noways too. Just keeping the oil indoors is enough to make sure the engine is running lubricated. Just wait so the oil get down to the pan and GO! ;) If it is to "dirty" to be on the stove, well then new oil is needed anyways. (if you care about the engine) So it also can be heated on a stove for better effect- Only problem is the part of getting under the car and drain hot oil. And forgetting to put it back before starting ofc. Probably also bad for the oil plug. And plastic cover in the way of the engine.

[@LN997-i8x]

@@TheDiner50 They certainly would have liked a heated garage, but money was scarce on the Canadian prairies in the 1940's.

[@RaduB.]

@@LN997-i8x Or on the front during the war...

[@dandahermitseals5582]

Very interesting historic knowledge. I'm 80 and from Kodiak Alaska so I am familiar with these proceedures. Dandahermit.

[@AlisonFort]

‘Or you could work from home’ - lovely line, thank you😀

[@pinguliten]

So I heard you like preheaters so I preheated your preheater so you can heat with your preheater.

[@TheArendt1]

Thanks Stefan, very interesting aspect of tanks and other vehicles. Most of us don't think about this ...

[@michaelmayo3127]

Coffee and Brændevin, just the job on a cold-winters day.

[@forthleft]

You're the best. TY. It's obvious how many times you have done this.

[@larsbkurin1740]

Long-awaited expert knowledge of cold, kerosene and Coffee. Thanks!

[@Mrspaceman1999]

I love how casual -15 is for the Sweeds. I live in Poland and I kinda forgot how it is to leave the house when it is -10, even tho we had it this year. It was painful to say the least :/

[@RaduB.]

This year was a mild one here in Romania too. But we experience easily under -25°C in some winters.

[@mrSkandalpolisen]

I used to work with the Sk60 (trainer jet) as a technician in Swedish Air Force in the early 90's and spent quite a lot of time in northern Sweden when the pilot aspirants did their advanced training. Negative 30 were common in january and december. One morning we had -42. We NEVER canceled any flights because of cold weather. We used diesel blower heaters to pre-warm the engines of the planes and we used the same procedures as discribed in this video to pre-heat our cars and trucks. Also really important to check the fuel for water condensation, both for the aircraft as well as other vehicles and machines. Any water condensation must be drained to not cause ice blockage of the fuel system. Now I live a more comfortable life in southern Sweden where we rarely have temperatures below -5, -10. This year though we had around two weeks of below -10.

[@Mrspaceman1999]

@@mrSkandalpolisen I was in Sweden once, a few years ago, during an exchange with a school near Stokholm, tho when I was there the weather was beautiful, spring almoust, and it was like January i think xd except one day when it was raining and 5 degrees max. Still, I know you bois up there are used to it but for me.. for the past like 10 years I have become a summer (or more like autumn? always raining heh) child

[@eliaslundstedt5607]

Lmao we had - 20 in my area for weeks this year. Very cool ngl

[@jakobholgersson4400]

Air moisture and wind have a strong impact on how you experience cold. On a foggy day, when it was -5, I thought about turning back home and get my thickest gloves. During my arctic warfare training, I once went out when it was -25c with only a t-shirt and berret on my upper body, and my rifle strapped to my back. It didn't feel cold in the slightest, because it was so dry.

[@sparviero142]

Me seeing how to heat the engine with a small flamethrower my Toyota "Don't even think about that!"

[@Tiger313NL]

Do iiiiiit :D

[@bartjanflikkema]

Tsja, my Suzuki also just started in -25 on the first crank without preheater.

[@janhugo]

@@bartjanflikkema My Opel Manta -77, back in the old days, started in - 44 C after an weekend standing still. My friends Ford Granada we had too tow for several KM before it "started", the oil pressure wouldn`t rise. Yes, this was in Norway in Finnmark county.

[@bartjanflikkema]

@@janhugo That's indeed a bit more north compared to south Sweden where I live. Although Målilla is also known for both hot and cold weather records 🤔

[@cpawp]

Every tanking, in the Swedish winter. Great topic - thank you Stefan.

[@patrikolsson3728]

Otroligt intressant och lärorikt! Värmer hjärtat hos en gammal MÖP och tank entusiast!

[@slartybartfarst55]

I always love these chats. Love the gentle humour & informative content. 16:07 so a preheater for the preheater! Between these & David Willey's Q&A chats in the Garden, they kept me sane last year

[@nonamesplease6288]

Great video! I have remote coworkers who live in warm/hot places where it never snows. They tell me how beautiful the snow is and how much they wish it would snow where they are. I tell them bluntly that they can come and take all of the snow they want. And while you're at it, take the cold back with you, too.

[@chemech]

The grass is always greener... Those same folks who live down in the sunbelt would gladly trade you some of their Summer heat for some of your Winter Ice & Snow... Or, if you really want to darken somebody's day, the not quite freezing wind driven rain with the muddy slush of not quite melted snow...

[@secularnevrosis]

Yes. Lovely to have to use the snowblower for 45 min to get to work. And for another 45min to get back up from work. Worst of all are, lots of snow and -2 to 0 C.. The snow is like clay, slippery hard to get rid of, heavy and sticks to everything.

[@jimbob67]

I really enjoy your videos. Showing the practical side of life with these vehicles and of course your sense of humour 👍

[@slorvidask5867]

Thank you Stefan. Very interesting topic

[@aleksanderdomanski222]

Great demonstration! Thank You!

[@explorer914]

Kerosene to preheat the engine and coffee to preheat the driver. 😉

[@albertpolak786]

Cons of living in Sweden: You might have to faff around preheating your engine before you can start in the cold Pros of living in Sweden: You get to use a flamethrower to do it

[@randyhavard6084]

Great information, I'm glad we don't have to deal with anything like this where I live

[@Jthinman17]

Thank you! I’ve always wondered how they did that in Ww2!

[@lohikarhu734]

The Swedish drivers/mechanics need to be TOUGH! Almost as tough as the Finnish ones!! ;-) Tak for this interesting 'real world' video!

[@petter5721]

The Finns are not tougher, they just have more alcohol in their bodies so then do not freeze 😂

[@anttihuhtala5840]

I love your videos! Wonderful! more please. I sure as hell come to visit arsenalen when the covid restrictions finally end. Thank you for showing us how the life is with tanks. BTW... Could you perhaps some time show us how some firecontrol systems work? Or how for example, distances for targets were measured in old times before laser range finder.

[@JohSno]

Thank you. Was very interesting. Please do more videos about dealing with cold and snow.

[@09jt1]

It was colder winters some decades ago. Also much more snow. Actually We used one way,of heating,the engin you mentioned in the film. Me and a friend was staying in a cottage which was abansoned during winter. First. Dig out a place for our car. Then follow the season road to the house, remove window covers and starting a couples of fires for heat. Yes. Go to the power pole and turn on electrical power. Very cold the first nights. Now, at last, the heater. My friend, his car, tok a metal tray and Wall down to the car. Start a small woodfire on It and then put it under the engine. A blanket cover the engine to keep the heat. Meantime I have made the brekfast and prepared packad lunch. Yes, in those days cars dont have much/any? plastic. We had a nice hollyday with a lot of skiing. Thx for nice videos.

[@66kbm]

That is a great Video explaing what the Swedes think as common place, to all of us other people who cant even imagine such temperatures let alone experience them. Good explanation and demonstration of various heaters. Wish i/my Unit had that sort of gear in the Winter of 85 in BAOR.

[@TooManyHobbiesJeremy]

Nice! I never knew about the coolant preheaters/heat exchangers that use a torch. I wonder if the American military used such devices.

[@tarjei99]

This is truly fascinating!

[@hallstuart6604]

Having lived in South Africa my whole life I cannot imagine -15 to -35 degrees celsius weather!! I have no idea how you Swedes survive! :-)

[@SonsOfLorgar]

We are conditioned to it from birth. I would personally have it really hard in tropical climates, and I can't understand how you or Australians survive your climates either XD

[@mortensandmoen5208]

I am Norwegian, i cant anderstand howe you stand +40C! 😁

[@Halibrand]

When my dad was young he experienced -48c / -56f in northern Sweden and during the night the electricity went out, fortunately they had several stoves to keep some heat inside the house, the next morning they investigated why they were lacking electricity and discovered that the incomming powerline had contracted so much due to the cold that it had broken right off! The next summer they changed the entire powerline and found small holes in the insulator where my father had pierced it with throwing darts (Missed the target board) =D So it wasnt only becouse of the cold but both causes together broke the powerline ;)

[@georgesmith5708]

@@mortensandmoen5208 in the place where I live in northern Italy we can have peaks of +40 in summer and -20 in the clear winter nights.

[@mortensandmoen5208]

@@georgesmith5708 -20 is no problem +40 is a big problem!!!

[@Vince_A_Bull]

I like it say that it isn’t cold until the diesel starts to gel.

[@ulissedazante5748]

In Italy, diesel is a mix a bit more prone to low temperatures. I have a small hardware store in a village in the Alps, and I sell a lot of "diesel antifreeze" to people that came from 'downhill'. It's just lighter fuel to mix into the thicker diesel. The gas pump here sell "artic diesel" in winter.

[@Vince_A_Bull]

In the northern US and Canada diesel is cut with Kerosene for the winter. Right at the pump it's a 60/40 split and that is good to about -30C. I work in freight transport and we keep rescue treatment stocked. Besides the fuel gelling, any water in the fuel freezes and clogs fuel filters.

[@secularnevrosis]

@@Vince_A_Bull Diesel slush. A friend of mine didn't listen to my advice regarding keeping the tank near full during the winter. Of course he got lots of condensation and water in the fuel that turned into slush as the temperature plummeted. Lots of work and 2 days in a wam garage to get the old G20 going again.

[@danskdennis190894]

Nice Video learned a lot you missing a step for the BV206A you need to take up the cooling tank and hang it up in the air intake grill and removed the cap from it as well. I will also add when the engine is +40C in the heat meter you can turn it on. We usually start this process by preheating at -24C.

[@jarikinnunen1718]

I use hair dryer to preheating air cooled scooter engine in winter. I made adapter to get it on air cooling intake. In it is airflow regulator for adjust heat (for protect of plastic parts) according prevailing temperature.

[@PorscheRacer14]

It was far easier in the Arctic Circle to just keep the equipment running/idling than risking shutting it off and then it not working after that. You get frozen starters, iced throttles and so forth. Draining the oil and keeping it somewhere warm is normal when trying to start the old tractors at the farm to move snow. Great video!

[@moggridge1]

This was very interesting, thank you.

[@petesheppard1709]

That kerosene pre-heater looks as if a blowtorch and an Optimus stove loved each other very, very much... Lars on the 'Survival Russia' KZbin channel uses a commercial turbo heater to preheat his vehicles in deep cold. Speaking of deep cold, I once saw it pointed out that it takes about 3 days to preheat a solidly cold-soaked C-130 in an Antarctic winter.

[@Gaby83]

Thank you Stefan, you solved a big dilema I always had about my tank ! :)) Even ironic, I did like and commented to help with the algorithm , just for your effort ! ;)

[@harleytompa6626]

Trevlig video som vanligt Stort Tack!

[@chortomato]

Been there, very cool museum actually! Big recommend from me.

[@alexandersiemienowski2607]

Love ur videos... Theyre very interesting and well made...

[@AndrewCZ47]

Old Soviet cars had it a lot less complicated - just a bracket next to the engine block where you put the blowtorch, waited until engine oil and coolant becomes liquid again and then you just cranked the engine and off you went.

[@TheStefanskoglund1]

I have a civilian winter semester (sportlov so w 7) : one passat diesel , early morning outside of Skövde: 35 below..... cranky car ... stop in Mariestad : replace the fuel filter which were ful of something which reminds me about dirty fat .... continues northwards ... north of Mora ... evening ... the floor in the backseat isn't warm ... Älvdalen ... Särna and then outside of Särna (45 below...) the car almost quits so dad turns back to Särna and gets told to add gasoline to the diesel oil (added 3 liters or so to a tank of 35 l diesel) the car became a bit happier...

[@jamessotherden5909]

Very informative. Thank you.

[@Martin894893]

Bra och informativa filmer. Hade uppskattat om ni kortade ner filmerna lite och koncentrerade faktan. Blir en hel del reputation nu och man tröttnar en aning. Fortsätt med intressanta filmer :)

[@waynemayo1661]

And, this is why I live in Florida. :-))

[@julias-shed]

Reminds me of testing an APU at -40 in an environmental chamber. Starting on ether 😀

[@earluke2592]

Awesome Video!! please keep on making more

[@joshabadie1431]

Quality content asu usual. 👍

[@logoseven3365]

Worked at an airport in the northern USA. Our snow blower had a Deutz 6 cylinder Diesel engine. It had a built in propane injection system instead of ether. I really enjoy your practical videos. Thanks

[@biturboism]

Preheating the preheater is a vibe

[@martinpollak7039]

Great Video again! Thx a lot!

[@7eis]

What a legend

[@steelhammer96]

damn I love this content!

[@ned900]

please please please please please make a film about the Volvo Sugga The original mad max car. That thing is amazing.

[@stefankarlsson9762]

We will cove the Sugga later on, stay tuned.

[@paulmanson253]

Are traditional gasoline/naptha or kerosene blowtorches still manufactured in Sweden ? If so I want one.

[@peterjanvanbijnen226]

very informative video

[@hakansundstrombmwsweden7645]

Lovely Swinglich

[@MrZnarffy]

I remember being on exercise and it being -45C, and you had to wake up in the middle of the night to crawl out of the tent as you say to run the heater...

[@Shabbymannen]

I know what you mean, even though those engine heaters were gone by my time. One exercise I was on for two weeks in the woods, the warmest during the whole thing was -32C in the day. Don't know if it hit -45, but close to it. We had those modern inflatable tents with electric heaters, and we had to crawl out and refill diesel in the generators. Once the generator broke down and we had to fix it in the dark, got cold real quick. What got to me the most was how dry the air becomes when it's already bone dry from the cold and then you run it through an electric heater. Woke up completely dehydrated all the time. Eventually I ended up bunking with the patrolling soldiers, because they ran an old school wood stove in their tent. Way better.

[@jenspersson5451]

Bra film mer sånt!

[@jonasjohnsson2130]

This is sooo interesting. More More More!!!

[@Video3dits]

i was a vehicle comander/driver on a BV206 when i was in the army in norway, we never used the preheater cuz it started just fine in -45celcius but ofc the bracket and heater was in the kit but never used :P other than warming my hands during rutine checks XD

[@rud]

Great video. Thanks KZbin for recommending this. But now I feel like just keeping the car running. 😂 “someone”, not going to say who, modified his old car so by flicking a switch, the engine would keep running without the keys in the ignition. A security switch in the parking brake, would cut the power if it the parking brake was released without the heys in the ignition. Cheers.

[@rikulappi9664]

For every 1°C drop under freezing, fighting intensity drops by 2 %. At -25°C you have 50% intensity. At - 50°C fighting should stop. (Old Finnish rule of thumb. )

[@paulcollins6197]

-40 in Sweden = Time to put your best coat on and drink coffee. To the rest of us it's the plot of a disaster movie!

[@conceptalfa]

👍👍👍!!!

[@ulfpe]

It's always time for coffee

[@nicklasodh]

If you had a SAAB or VOLVO back in the 80s you also had to bring the battery inside if you didnt use the car every day in winter.

[@JH-lo9ut]

If the battery is from 1984 too, I dont think that would help much.

[@krimke881]

nowadays you start the vehicles every other hour and let them run for a while, before shutting them off. and then repeat. guess there's many great methods out there

[@Aikaramba12]

The BV206 i used in the military started well in -40 celsius without a blower like that.

[@gummansgubbe6225]

Nope. They never stopped the engine for that long. EDIT: And no need for the C at -40.

[@Aikaramba12]

@@gummansgubbe6225 what do you mean?

[@volundrfrey896]

@@gummansgubbe6225 Even though -40 is the point where the centigrade and fahrenheit scales meet I still think it's nice to specify.

[@alexanderstenmark8838]

Alltså, jag har en fråga. Det är sjukt svårt att hitta någon video där Stridsvagn-103 skjuter automateld som det är beskrivet att det kan, alltså då omladdning och avfyrningsknapparna är intryckta båda två. Har någon några tips på om det finns någon ute på nätet?

[@chris1891ful]

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[@GTLandser]

In the Swedish military, you can put out the methylated spirits without fear that someone will attempt to drink it. In the Russian military, the units make their own starter fluid. There are tactical and logistical advantages to both approaches.

[@stefankarlsson9762]

In Sweden only the real "strong" people can drink it since there is an additive in it that makes you vomit :-)

[@Storlans]

This vids are really fun :D

[@TheStefanskoglund1]

Stoppa ner tändstiften i en plåtlåda och ha den inne i tältet i befälets sovsäck... varmaste stället i tältet.

[@DennisKarlsson]

Dieselmotorer har inga tändstift.

[@TheStefanskoglund1]

@@DennisKarlsson Nu tänkte jag specifikt på exv volvos valpar och de tidigare bensinmotorförsedda lastbilarna !

[@DennisKarlsson]

@@TheStefanskoglund1 ok, jag har aldrig behövt värma tändstift. Aldrig hört talas om det ens. Det har räckt med att de är torra, rena och har rätt gap.

[@gurra63able]

Ni skulle ha filmat och visat lite militärfordons körning i vinterförhållande, nu när vi äntligen hade lite snö och kyla i år. Tack och hej.

[@dandahermitseals5582]

Did they have any kind of antifreeze or god forbid just straight water.??

[@janhugo]

No sweedes was needed during WW2... Og sånn var den historien, beklageligvis men sant, beklager at jeg gjentar den historien mine svenske venner. But that Hægglund BV206 is a blast to drive! I have driven it in Norwegian army, it is unstopably, only the driver would stop because he is scared.

[@janhugo]

Oh, I reminded my self, the first batch of BV206 with the Mercedes 5 straight cylinder was not a good engine, they couldn`t take the "heat", but the straight 6 could.

[@davidmeek8017]

Well done! Aloha

[@andersostlund934]

You should have started the IKV91 Instead! Cold memories from Boden.

[@ElamunFTP]

I drive a diesel truck I'm able to start it after cycling glow plugs in -30 wild how far we have come

[@ptonpc]

This is so cool. ahem...

[@ulfkallenas6188]

I have heard that in other countries you don't need a tank to make coffee. Is that true?

[@fabiogalletti8616]

some boring countries did that. Where is the fun and the diesel aftertaste, I ask.

[@non-standard6864]

Don't forget the English Subtitles for the 2 Pansarbandvagn 302 Videos :-(

[@famscott2348]

Hur fixade man cirkulationen i värmeväxlaren före cirkulationspumpens tid? Grym video annars!

[@stefankarlsson9762]

Man förlitade sig på självcirkulation i de mindre systemen.

[@johantheselius1399]

Läste ett inlägg om T-Ford som beskriver det hela med en mening "Istället för en pump för kylarvätska förlitade man sig på konceptet om termisk självcirkulation, dock var inte alltid motorerna införstådda med detta koncept " 🤣🤣

[@slikerdet]

In Leopard 1 and 2 u got eberspacher and webasto as pre heater

[@dandahermitseals5582]

How about the big shotgun shell fired starting Radial aircraft engines?? And tractors n dozers. What about dead batteries??

[@Rzymek85]

How resilliant are those rubber tracks?

[@stefankarlsson9762]

Not at all longitudinally (internal steel wire) but across it can bend a lot more than a traditional steel track

[@Rzymek85]

@@stefankarlsson9762 Oh so is there a rough number of km that once reached those tracks require swapping?

[@stefankarlsson9762]

@@Rzymek85 I do not remember the exact distance but I could try to find out. The one we have in the museum has done aprox 1500 km at the moment and it had used tracks when we got it. But it depends a lot on speed and terrain of course.

[@Rzymek85]

@@stefankarlsson9762 Thanks! Thats really decent thought it might be less than 1000 :)

[@bjornborjesson176]

💪

[@conceptalfa]

How did they do, heating up i e tank engines during WWII in Russia's harsh winter conditions in the middle of the battles as taking up that long time and most probably under enemy fire seems pretty unrealistic???

[@grolribasi]

If you have to take your tank to go to work early in the morning, you might have to get up a couple of hours ahead. Ah, love driving to work in my tank, never ever seen a traffic jam!

[@ishouldgetalif3]

heard a story about some guy when he did his military service to keep his engine from freezing he'd park his Diesel Mercedes into a snowbank, cover it even further and leave it there idling till he came back.

[@secularnevrosis]

You can be selective about were you park. I like to park on the "high" ground if possible. Rolling down hill to start is a good trick.

[@apuuvah]

I would not use ether for the longevity of the engine. Diesel engine can be started with brake cleaner spray (acetone), which is supposedly friendlier for the engine. But with all of them modern good oils, coolants and glow plugs... Just start the damn thing...

[@kaffenoizen]

"If you have a tank you can make your own coffee" Yeah, who doesnt have a tank? Pretty normal to have a tank right? =)

[@ZeroneAngel]

I live north of the arctic circle in Sweden. Yes, it gets cold as F up here during winter. And no, not every swede that lives up here is casual about it. I freakin freeze my ass off every winter. Yes, I'm a bit of a pussy, deal with it. But the air hurts my face. Why am I living where the air hurts my face?

[@goodcolimgpu10]

5:00 what moves the water? convection?

[@stefankarlsson9762]

Yes

[@pierredussf]

Notice the open window!

[@herosstratos]

There are vehicles with electrical preheating for the batteries.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

And if they don't carry extra, insulated batteries for that or if you forget to hook it up to a outdoor power outlet before you go inside in the evening, that feature is useless too in northern Scandinavia, Russia and Canada.

[@wopmf4345FxFDxdGaa20]

@@SonsOfLorgar Well ,not necessarily, the cold battery can supply a smaller current until it heats up. But in general it is better to have bigger and better battery (or even better, two) in vehicles used in cold. For example Japanese manufacturers do that a lot, they put double batteries in many of their diesel cars sold in the arctic. Correct type of oil is also very important in cold. It must have good W rating. Then if the vehicle has glow plugs, their good condition is very important.

[@danielk70]

@@SonsOfLorgar The Swedish TGB40 truck had insulated battery compartment with electrical heating under the batteries, it took a few watts of power from the batteries when temperature was under 5 C. So no power outlet needed unless you parked the truck for weeks.

[@cyclesgoff9768]

British Rail please take note 😉😁😷😎

[@andreasolsen5174]

do you have a Volvo Valp at the museum?

[@stefankarlsson9762]

Yes, we will try to cover that in a future video.

[@andreasolsen5174]

@@stefankarlsson9762 Nice I have a L3314N myself :)

[@motokid1492]

@@stefankarlsson9762 Har ni en volvo pv sugga ?

[@stefankarlsson9762]

@@motokid1492 Ja, det finns också liksom Volvo TPV