Art Social Media is Imploding

[@ELTABULLO]

Come on, we know why they're banning tiktok, wiping an entire nation's bloodlines systematically is "collateral damage", but even mentioning it... that's "problematic"

[@oynon]

honestly tumblr is still good, for posting art at least, and not dead as people like to make it out to be

[@gleedham]

I miss the days of cheaking Tumblr everyday

[@tinkergnomad]

I like your shoelaces!

[@sciencoking]

Wanna experience the internet like the early 2000s? Registering a domain and writing a website in HTML never stopped being an option

[@alface935]

Yes but most of all users on the Internet today only uses the Top 50 Most Visited Websites and nothing else

[@tourmelion9221]

Try using the marginalia search engine to find older stuff

[@Silver77cyn]

@@alface935Link all your social media to your website, and use it as a main hub.

[@paulsheldon8838]

Yeah, but who's going to visit your website?

[@alface935]

@@paulsheldon8838 The only ones I remember going in recent times was: - Shadbase - Thesigmaarts - Wired Sound for Wired People Do You know any other cool Personal Websites for Me to go to?

[@alface935]

I can only think of 4 "Safe Spaces" for Art on the Internet right now - Newgrounds - Internet Archive - Rule 34 - Create Your Own Personal Website Which is just sad to see

[@simons5714]

Add Furaffinity to the list lol. It's a bit of a hellsite but they have some pretty strict rules against AI generated content and the community is generally pretty nice. Furries can be weird but they love artists.

[@alface935]

​@@simons5714 Rule 34 does allow AI Art on Their Website but that is not really a problem because if You do not want to see AI Art You can always just Blacklist the ai_generated and ai_assisted tags and now You will see Zero AI Art and it doesn't even required an Account to use the Blacklist feature which is Awesome It is the best of both worlds in My opnion AI Art fans get to see and post "Their" Art and the rest of the planet get to not see "Their" Art

[@omnitone]

newgrounds and neocities FOREVAR!!!1!!1!1!!1!!1!!

[@paulsheldon8838]

R34 is completly overrun with AI pictures.

[@alface935]

@@paulsheldon8838 Just put the tags "ai_assisted" and "ai_generated" on the Blacklist and now You will no longer see AI Art on Rule 34 It is the best of both worlds AI Art Fans get to post and see AI Art while People Who do not want to see can just Blacklist the AI tags and not see the AI Art anymore And the best part is that You do not even need to have a Rule 34 Account to see the Blacklist Feature

[@roumdboi]

This is 100% my experience alone, do not use me as an example to talk others out of doing art professionally. I'm a tattoo artist, and have never been good at social media, to my detriment. I've been struggling so hard financially, and my creativity has been at an all-time low since starting. I have decided to take a hiatus and suddenly I am having fun doing art again- not for money, no pressure for it to be perfect, just pure make whatever the hell I want without worrying if people will want it as a tattoo or not. And I'm extending that to my art socials also, I will now be refusing to use hashtags, refusing to play any stupid algorithm games, just posting what I want, how I want, when I want, and whoever sees it will see it. It feels so free, I feel like it was a mistake for me to ever try making money with art, it just completely ruined it for me. Slowly falling back into love with art now.

[@a.boston160]

Are people looking for art anymore though? Kind of seems like social media is past the artist adoption phase because people prefer video entertainment in those spaces and so visual art isn't doing well overall. Not to mention AI is like an annoying sibling that makes us accidentally ignore the other child like with Pinterest. Since it's already an uphill battle I don't imagine we could convince enough artists to dedicate themselves to the spaces to make any one of them a home. Seems like the art and social media thing is straight up over. It's probably just a waiting game now for the next wave of innovation to open a space we can all be free in again. I hope at least. Good vid tho! Definitely an interesting topic.

[@jameshughes3014]

I don't think the social aspect of the internet was doomed to fail from the beginning, because social media didn't exist in the beginning. the internet did just fine for a good ten years before myspace came along. people shared, created, things were good. if all social media collapsed and burned, i think the internet would be a better place. we could go back to each having our own websites. social media sites that centralize all that are kinda like walmart, in the way that it makes it impossible to have a small mom and pop store. the only reason you can't make your own custom bespoke page where you and your artist friends share their work is because everyone will ignore it and still flock to these horrible platforms.

[@tinkergnomad]

I want to know why KZbin ads have gone from mildly annoying to fully disturbing!

[@Art-Amanda]

They are getting desperate, lol.

[@RicardoDavilaTejano]

I like the way you think and I find it somewhat interesting. You got a new follower from Brazil.

[@megijapostaza]

Totally agree! Got one from the other side of the planet in Latvia as well 🔥

[@Art-Amanda]

Thank you so, so much!

[@Art-Amanda]

Thank you!

[@starlantzer]

Thinking of using my website…but also KZbin. I have access to the community options.

[@jolanxbl-ai]

If you rent a server, there are social media clone apps you can install to create any kind of community

[@megijapostaza]

Rednote honestly is much worse from a national security perspective, because it actually IS owned by the CCP. It's actually funny to watch tiktok get banned and all of America jumping to the little red book. It's like pouring gasoline over a small fire and expecting it to go out. Nevertheless, artists need an platform where they can share human made art. AI is great at reaching the peaks of our imagination, because it is based on previous artworks done by humans, but it can only go as far as the data it's based on. Hopefully, humanity starts to realise the benifits on humanity being human. :) Robots are fun, but they exist only because we do, and so, I pray we all come together at once and stop this unneeded madness that's happening right now everywhere. Have a great day and stay hopeful about the future!

[@Art-Amanda]

You're honestly so correct. And it seems like Americans made a big deal about nothing, because the app is already unbanned (at least for now), haha. Thank you so much! I hope you have an amazing day as well!

[@jolanxbl-ai]

3:37 If I wanted to speak to a robot, I'd call Koodo mobile

[@LikaLaruku]

I heard you can skirt TikTok's ban by using a VPN to create a new account claiming to be from another country. The art community could come together a make a fund-supported art Booru. There are tons already, but they seem to mostly be hentai. Maybe add some anti-scraping & AI poisoning to it. Old forums are another option. The problem is finding an active one & getting everyone to go there.

[@sketchframestudio]

i wish i could use bluesky more but i do alot of like animation stuff and the size limit on files tends to make it super diffcult to work with , though its totally understandable with the history and present state of the site

[@sapphicsiren]

I've been enjoying Bluesky, wanted to move, when I heard Meta's policy updates. I feel like Discord would be the only other option, for art community. I've even gotten a couple of commissions directly from Discord, and I can connect with other creatives in my niche in the visual novel scene. I also enjoy Reddit's smaller communities, because it reminds me of old forums. And I will admit Facebook groups was nice, I loved talking to people with similar interests. It reminded me of my days in university talking to people in my fandoms late at night over in Facebook groups. Hosting my own blog was fun, but it's such a lonely platform, you don't really get engagement like on social media sites. I feel now the pivot to communities might now be focused on niches on websites that cater to one group. And there's also still Forums that are active to this day, like for indie perfume.

[@jakebosworth6253]

What do you think about having your own website?

[@Art-Amanda]

I honestly really like the idea! I think it can just be difficult for people to drive traffic to their sites, so that's probably a big reason it's become less popular.

[@jolanxbl-ai]

@@Art-Amanda As well, most sites look copy-paste with the same 3 templates

[@simonebernacchia5724]

I still have a space in deviantArt from the early 2000s but is centuries i don't post anything, plus they seemingly use your art to train AI too

[@JTLowry]

I miss when the internet was websites.

[@jolanxbl-ai]

And Webrings

[@gleedham]

I hope this videos gets pushed to right peoples ❤

[@screenedfoliage]

we need more protocols and less plataforms, making money from social media goes against its functions, like paying to use public transit

[@arioctober]

...do you not pay to use public transportation??? Where I live, the big ole giant USA, it's extremely common for public transit to charge a fee... Like we wish it was free and it finally is for kids under 18 in my city but it's definitely not free anywhere I've been or even heard of 😅

[@screenedfoliage]

@@arioctober im saying that paying for public transit is counterproductive cuz the more you charge the less people use it, it should be free. similarly the more you charge for a website or put ads in it the less people will want to use it

[@gleedham]

I haven't posed art since 2018 but i did move to blue skys and i have tumblr devaintart i still kind use my Twitter im also sick of jumping form play to play i miss sketch that was nice place for awhile

[@PencilsAndLight]

Thanks for your comments, Amanda. CARA is a good alternative. No AI slop is allowed, and the members are thoughtful and congenial. Many different styles of work. The site is run by and owned by artists, so it won't be controlled and manipulated by our current crop of brain-dead billionaires.

[@priscillasilva6510]

DeviantArt was huge in the early 2000s! Perhaps artists should start moving there again? It has its share of AI-generated art, but it’s uploaded by real people, as far as I know.

[@jolanxbl-ai]

DeviantArt is a cesspool of stolen photos and churned-out Ai deepfakes & 'depicted as 18' being sold as 'Adoptables', basically non-blockchain nfts.

[@radicant7283]

Bluesky, reddit, neocities, own website 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@EugeneHoverhand]

Make a website *please*