Arturia Minilab MK2 vs. Novation Launchkey Mini MK3 | WHICH SHOULD YOU BUY?

[@Roselieansy]

Just ordered an Arturia Minilab MK2 as a first midi controller. After dozens of hours of research on lots of good candidates, i thought going for the higher quality keys and the better build quality was the right move for a first controller. I will say, I do think this video in particular was perhaps a bit overly focused on DAW control, especially being specific to Ableton, and I would have liked some extra attention to fine details like how they feel to play, key response, sensitivity, (which I think you did a good job on with the encoders, and even the keys in some of your other videos; the segment in this video on key response was just a bit short, and the camera angle didn't lend itself well to showing the slightly slower response on the Minilab). All that aside, out of everything I watched on these mini keyboards, your videos were the most detailed and best produced. I made sure to use the affiliate link also, so hopefully Amazon tosses a few dollars your way :)

[@roshanm8409]

Thanks! I was almost there in choosing the Arturia Minilab and your comment sealed the deal

[@arnav4253]

Novation is the best for me ! I am a piano player but I dont care about quality in 100 bucks ! I need a compact ,small and pre mapped controller and minilab is none of them °°°°°°

[@adityasuryan2382]

@@roshanm8409 I am planning to buy a MIDI controller, I would needs good pads majorly. mini launchkey mk3 or mk3 37 keys has better pads than arturia minilab mk2 ?

[@anthonyhuerta3432]

How's it been holdin up? What DAW do you use?

[@Roselieansy]

@@anthonyhuerta3432 Holds up great. Here's the short version of some of my thoughts: Keys feel incredible and play well. The slower response time is negligible unless you have an old/weak processor or drive in your computer. My PC has been having some disk usage issues lately, and when it's bad, the key response feels particularly slow. I've also had issues with notes "sticking". I don't know a better word for it, because the keys themselves never stick, but occasionally when you play a key, the note keeps playing even after the key is released. Pressing the key again or starting/stopping playback fixes the issue everytime. Certainly frustrating, but I haven't found any other reports of this issue online, so I think it's an issue specific to my unit. Encoders are nowhere near as good as I was hoping. Very finicky and oversensitive, to the point that turning the encoder too fast can sometimes cause an opposite reaction in the parameter. Say you're using an encoder to modify your cutoff filter; if you turn the encoder too quickly up, the parameter will occasionally not change at all, or even drop down. I find myself using the encoders sparingly. The bundled software is nothing too special, I expected more out of it. Analog lab is a good enough program, but it's worth noting that it's not a synthesizer of any kind, it's a library of synthesizer presents. There's realistically not a lot of sound design you can do within the plugin, and the parameters you can adjust on each instrument preset are seemingly random. It's also a hefty program, and it can eat up a lot of usage on your processor if you're using a lot of tracks or multiple instances of analog lab. It's also worth noting that a lot of the instruments available don't strike me as even remotely useful in a musical context, but perhaps I'm just not as creative with my sounds as some. It's got some good piano and organ presets, a few nice leads, and loads of nice pads. Overall I give analog lab a 5/10. Useful, but it could be so much more. Long-time Arturia users have criticized Arturia for scaling back Analog Lab to give customers more of an incentive to buy full versions of their programs. I'm focussing on the negatives here because that's what I really cared about when looking for a controller. Onto the more positive side: In my opinion the drum pads are much better than people give them credit for. They work perfectly fine, aside from the key response that I mentioned earlier, and you can really slam them with no fear of harming the system. They could stand to be slightly more sensitive. Zero complaints on the key-bed Zero complaints on durability or build quality. This feels like a professional piece of gear. It's got the heft and feel you'd expect out of something like this, it doesn't feel cheap at all. I give the Minilab and it's packaged content a 7/10. Build quality : 9/10 Durability : 9/10 Playability : 8/10 Pads : 7/10 Encoders : 5/10 Packaged software : 6.5/10 In retrospect, I think a small Native Instruments controller or Novation controller would have suited my needs a little bit better. That said, I don't regret my purchase at all. It's a great piece of hardware and I use it pretty much every day. If you're on a tight budget and can't afford to buy a controller just to have it break, this is the one for you--no question about it in my mind. Okay so I went on a little longer than I intended. To answer your other question, I bought this keyboard for use with Cakewalk and have since moved on to Ableton. The keyboard has performed great with both DAWs with no notable difference in functionality.

[@ardanzaasier]

I love the launchkey mini mk3. I bought it to be my first midi controller and I didn't expect to understand all the functions, but I was surprised because it is a really intuitive and well designed controller. It gives you enough feedback to learn how it works really fast.

[@donaldtang7822]

freshman here, may I know where did u learn from

[@ardanzaasier]

@@donaldtang7822 I followed one of the taetro videos to underestand the basic features, I think.

[@skogs7875]

Does it work well for FL Studio?

[@ardanzaasier]

Pace Gaming I don't know because I don't have FL Studio. But it should work because I have use it with Ableton, Protools and also with Bandlab in the mobile.

[@marialoren8977]

@@ardanzaasier how does a midi controller work with a phone? I'm new in this

[@Nekojitablog]

I discovered your channel 10 minutes ago and watched an overview of the Launchkey Mini MK3 and now you upload a new video. Nice! I want to start to produce beats at home but I have no idea what can I do or how to start. Your channel is my first step. Thank you! -Ernesto

[@LilPirro3774]

WHAT XD YO TAMBIEN,YA HICE UNOS 2 SAMPLES

[@richariz7896]

Nekojitablog please dont make beats. we have enough shitty wannabe producers in this planet.

[@thameswrote]

Rich Ariz He make whatever he wants.

[@pisderata]

omggh como no vi este comment ajjaj yo voy a empezar pronto tambien!

[@f0wnd]

@@richariz7896 yeah we are sorry youre one of them

[@robertlee1176]

Dude. Crazy people complaining about this video. This is an amazing comparison. Thank you 😊

[@Fexell]

As a piano player, keys with a bit more weight to them is a plus, in my book.

[@faizfarizzy9453]

thats a fact!

[@WycliffStudios]

I agree

[@nicomelgares]

yeah, but whats even more important is that they keys have a large range of velocity path and can move much up and down. cause if not, you have not good control to play soft, even if they keys have more weight. i'm also a piano player and want a small midi controller for my analog synths outdoors, but i hate it when there is no range of velocity and the keys are so "flat". because of that, i connect everything to my nord stagepiano, if i'm at home.

[@st0rmchild]

Excellent comparison. These kinds of details are really important when you go beyond the basics of just using these as keyboards.

[@AlexanderDKB]

One thing not mentioned about the endless encoders is that they always adjust up and down from the current state. The encoders on the Launchkey won't necessarily reflect the current state of whatever value you're controlling, so tweaking involves twisting to find the current state and then going from there... or just jumping to some new value and messing around.

[@JohnJohnCrusher]

Are they truly endless encoders? I just got an Akai mini mk3 with what look like endless encoders, but they act as absolute encoders, jumping the software values to whatever state the controller values were last left at

[@enriquepageperez1305]

I hate this so much. I’ve bought so many small keyboard with “infinite encoders” only to find out they are literally useless cause the software / generic drivers are trash. I don’t want wanna work in ableton or use any stupid daw just for this, it’s kinda ridiculous that these “pseudo infinite encoder controllers” even exist but what is more Laughable even is that I’ve found more “ripoff” controllers actually doing this right than proper controllers such as the MK 3 by Akai - yet NO reviewer even mentions aspects like this. Why? What kind of “review” is that then? So lame. Let me save you some time in case you’re in the same situation as I was (though I know it’s been a year since the last reply on this comment, but it might help someone else so…): For the Akai owner, are you sure you CANNOT change the encoders (in the software editor) so that they become “relative encoders”? This is generally what you want for infinite encoders but many controllers come configured with ABSOLUTE even when they have RELATIVE (infinite) encoders. Hopefully this is an option in their editor because it’ll fix your issues. Once again, I have to re-state this: why are all these “reviewers” not even covering this? It’s kinda ridiculous - makes me really wonder how much they actually use these things because honestly it is THE MOST PARAMOUNT ASPECT to compare any controller with infinite encoders. I’m glad the MK2 has great keys, for sure… but i came here for the “infinite encoders” and no one even speaks about these things. Kinda ridiculous tbh.

[@MaxwellMcKinnon]

You sir win the review@@enriquepageperez1305

[@TheYuppiejr]

Minor head's-up, the versions of this being sold on Amazon (and likely most other sources with new/old stock) include a "coupon" for a $29 upgrade path to the full Analog Lab version, but only after you register the hardware and Lite version do they make you aware the upgrade is now $69. If the cheap path to the better synth version is a major purchase criteria for buying one of these over other compact controllers, just be aware it's now $40 more expensive than most KZbin reviews of the product indicate prior to May, 2019 when Arturia moved to Analog Lab version 4 and the more expensive upgrade price.

[@arnav6753]

thnx

[@HappyFlamingToaster]

I just bought the Arturia Minilab MK2 earlier this week and am really happy with it. I love the feel of the keybed (slightly larger than mini keys and slightly weighted) and the compatibility with Analog Lab. It's not the smallest controller compared to the competition, but it's still pretty small and sits nicely on my desk. Something I'd note is that while it doesn't arm tracks on select by default, this can still be set up by adding an option in the Ableton live preferences folder. The LaunchKey Mini MK3 looks really fun too though! If you're picking between the two, it really just depends on what features you prefer. So far so good!

[@joaopedrofrech]

Wumbology what do you think abut the knobs? are they really slow? is there a way to adjust the speed? I've just bought one and I'm afraid of the knobs kkkkk

[@randommcranderson5155]

@@joaopedrofrech you can adjust the knob sensitivity in midi control center

[@MaxwellMcKinnon]

Oooh where does it talk about arming tracks?

[@7775Kevin]

Firmware update has corrected many of the issues with the Minilab such as the knob behavior and the led light colors.

[@SKashif7]

After the firmware upgrade, May i know how is the integration with DAWs and other VSTs apart from the Arturia itself? I use studio one and a lot of NI vsts.

[@stuartsmith5146]

I bought the first minilab device. It wasn’t too long before the knobs progressively started rendering uncontrollable in any DAW I would use it in. A bit later I got the Keylab Essential. Same issue with the knobs within six months. After those two I purchased a “The Laboratory”. That one is solid, metal, heavy, and all knobs work after a summer long tour. The cheap stuff is a nice layout, but the knobs make them keyboard only. I’d go with a CME if that’s all you want.

[@cactusbryce5293]

You're honestly such an amazing KZbinr for listening to your fans. Much love, keep up the great work!

[@Taetro]

Thanks so much!!!!

[@cactusbryce5293]

Taetro :)

[@lilforlngerledning3607]

Thanks for the high quality video. It’s really well made, although I feel like you might be slightly bias towards the launchkey. Some of the cons about the minilab in this video is imo pros. For example the slow knobs give more control. Both controllers are great for different purposes, and it feels like you made the review with focus on the pros of launchkey.

[@jamestucker457]

I agree. For example the keys when played soft on both controllers, the Arturia Minilab MKII preferably plays softer as it should, though both have velocity adjustment to compensate for that. He tends to side with the Novation. Still. I'm glad he mentioned the travel is a bit greater on the Minilab (another attribute actually). Also the endless encoders are better for mapping with most DAW's because there is no stop from the knob itself, so there's no need for the knobs have to re-engage to some other setting when changing tracks. There's a clear winner here. IMO. I would agree the Novation might have an edge for live use. Though having Analog Lab control/bundled software is huge. I'm looking for a portable alternative as I have the Keylab 49 MKII, along with other controllers. Thank you for posting the comparison. I'm going with the Minilab, but there's a place for both of these two units for different needs.

[@bosthebozo5273]

Thank you so much for the video Taetro. I have watched endless videos for a few days now trying to figure out my next controller. I thought my mind was finally made up with the MiniLab. But you have the best video I have seen on the subject and what you said was brilliant and made perfect sense. Such a well done video, exactly what I needed to see. I almost made a mistake by getting the Arturia, which still seems great. But I am going Launchkey MK3, finally my mind is made up. Subbed!

[@chitlun]

Solution: Get both 😉 I have the Launchkey Mk3 and it’s an excellent bit of kit. I personally really like the arpeggiator, particularly the Mutate & Deviate modes... Great for unexpected accidents that can turn into choons. Great video man, peace ✌️

[@__Rizzler__]

Thanks bro, now I'm broke. 😞

[@Presbiter]

Why both? What would make sense is getting the arturia because of the endless knobs and the better keys and instead of the launchkey you go for a launchpad x and it 8x8 pad interface.

[@paulandersbullecer3152]

What are your thoughts on Akai Minib3

[@bonchboys7625]

Choons

[@BrandoLuis]

This year I received the LaunchKey 3 as a xmas present from my sister, couldn't be happier!

[@angelo8142]

My dad got me one too but on the 30th of december when he came back from Australia, he also got me a focusrite scarlet 4i4 gen 3, I'm so happy

[@ezekielsandifer156]

I got one too!

[@richariz7896]

fadi nino you want a cookie ? smh

[@pixsled]

@@richariz7896 why you shaking ur head at someone sharing there happiness?

[@richariz7896]

HideBoi and youre a little ass 13 year old defending people over the internet you dont know lol im not complaining

[@hikibeats]

I have the novation launchkey and I have to say it is a fantastic choice for a beginner. The workflow is so much easier with Ableton and I am super satisfied. I just wish novation has 88 keys with fully weighted keys like the arturia mkii 88.

[@st0rmchild]

A good way to control Arturia plugins (and many others) with the LaunchKey Mini mk3 is to set it up with NI Komplete Kontrol (which now supports using a generic MIDI controller for browsing and controlling instruments). You only have to do that once, and then it goes way beyond Analog Lab.

[@bobthebuilder7602]

How do you do that, and can you with Ableton lite? Sorry I am a very new to this. Is there maybe a guide you can direct me to?

[@925sender]

Interested

[@ruturajagashe6771]

Hey @stormchild, please share the guide on how you did it. It will be of great help. Thank you

[@faustodematos8897]

Install the Native Komplete Kontrol software on N. Instruments website, it's free and it's a kind of plugin hub for other plug-ins

[@st0rmchild]

Sorry everyone, I didn't get any notifications about the replies. Here's a rough overview: 1. Download Native Access from NI (I think you have to create an account first, but it's free). 2. Open Native Access and use it to install Komplete Kontrol. 3. Launch Komplete Kontrol (as a standalone app). In the preferences, enable your LaunchKey Mini mk3 as a MIDI input. 4. On the LaunchKey, hold shift and press the top-right pad to switch to the "Custom" mode for the knobs. 5. Click the "MIDI" button in the toolbar of Komplete Kontrol. Click on each knob and turn a knob on your LaunchKey to assign it. 6. Load up any instrument plugin in Komplete Kontrol - either by browsing on the left, or by clicking the plug button in the toolbar, then clicking [+] to load any VST. 7. Click the knob button in the toolbar. You should see a bunch of controls for the VST you loaded. Test the knobs on your LaunchKey. You should see the knobs moving at the top of the window, and also the related controls moving in the VST interface. You can go through the pages of controls by clicking the labels above the knobs. (It's possible to assign buttons on your controller to go to the next/previous page, but LaunchKey Mini doesn't have any assignable buttons.) If it's all working, you can now close Komplete Kontrol, launch your DAW, load Komplete Kontrol as a plugin, and use that to load any VST. Mention me in a reply if you need any more pointers!

[@DopamineOverload]

Have 'em both, love 'em both. Maybe a slight edge to the Launchkey Mini MK3, though....

[@delscoville]

I picked up the Launchkey mini... but still would like a Minilab or Keylab to navigate Analog Lab. But still happy getting the Launchlkey mini, it's the perfect controller for Ableton Live.

[@ashyskk]

So shud i go for minilab.. Because i M buying.. How it feels with launchkey

[@rainfeedermusic]

Hey i have analog lab already actually. If you have it already how hard is for you to control it with launchkey? Detailed answer would be appreciated...

[@delscoville]

@@rainfeedermusic Well the Launchkey doesn't have the endless knobs, but you can still map controls for Analog Lab. Of course it's never going to be as concise as a Arturia product using Arturia software. But, Launchkey, however, has control over Ableton Live that Minilab will never have. In my opinion, that's where the workflow really is.

[@rainfeedermusic]

@@delscoville Thank you. I think i will go for launchkey since i should still be able to use basic analog lab.

[@EndlessFlight]

Taetro comparisons are always the best on youtube every time

[@ThePsho]

This video is exactly what I've been asking myself the past few days. I already have a nice 88-key Yamaha digital piano, so it's less about key feel and more about features. I use Ableton, so I love the Novation integration, but I also use a lot of Arturia VSTs, which I would assume would work better with the minilab. To be honest, I was just about to pull the trigger on the Arturia...but I just HAD to watch one more KZbin video. Now I'm basically back to a coin toss. If I could bring myself to blow the money, I'd just get the Push 2 and be done with it.

[@MaxwellMcKinnon]

Let us know what you got and how it went

[@PrestonBaez]

I just bought this Novation Launchkey yesterday, then saw you pop up on my YT feed, then found this. and Holy Crap I feel so good about my purchase and it's not even in my hand yet. Great review!

[@PrestonBaez]

I just got it! It's so dope and easy to setup once I figured it out. Thank you for this!

[@JBRitchie8]

@@PrestonBaez How are they keys?

[@PrestonBaez]

@@JBRitchie8 I can't give any comparisons as this is my first, but they feel great and velocity is affected by how fast you press down

[@mercedesescobarmusic]

Solution: Get an Arturia MicroLab (for the awesome keyboard), and a Novation Launchpad. Full functionality and you get the best of both worlds.

[@ITech2005]

lol Wow i just got a similar setup. Launchpad mini mk3 + MiniLab mk2. LOVING IT!!!

[@nanomiya790]

@@ITech2005 how about akai mpk?

[@Dadaadad268]

Why would you need an 'awesome keyboard' with such a small amount of keys to even play it well?

[@mercedesescobarmusic]

@@Dadaadad268 Everyone has a different use for it. I need one to play well, because I use it for music school homework (entering voiceleading chords in software, which sometimes I do late at night in bed, so it helps that's it's small), also to teach singing lessons while traveling, entering virtual instruments in DAW, etc. Also, if something feels good, I guess you want to use it more. It's all subjective, of course. But a great feeling keyboard, also speaks to the quality of the device. Due to the pandemic, I had to fly back home from the States and brought my MicroLab with me. I need it every day, but I obviously couldn't fly with something big. It's truly sturdy, feels great, and I've been able to use it for all the things I mentioned. Highy recommend.

[@Dadaadad268]

@@mercedesescobarmusic nice reply!

[@sophoclese65]

I am a heavy Arturia Analogue Lab user and I love the interface with the minilab mkii.

[@DarkDao]

Don't forget that you can setup many parameters for Minilab in MIDI Control Center. Even assign one of the pads as a sustain pedal or setup all 16 channels in any way you want.

[@jelly.1899]

Can you adjust the sensitivity of the endless knobs? Thanks

[@DarkDao]

@@jelly.1899 There is an option for that yes, but not for every individual encoder, just for all of them.

[@jelly.1899]

@@DarkDao thank you 👍

[@agathauy2709]

Does changing the midi channel on the Minilab also change the midi channel on the CC? If by chance you know about this on the Launchkey or Akai as well would be great :)) This is super random but still advanced thanks if you reply haha. I found that the midi channel and knobs/pads or just keys isn't that clear across different controllers.

[@mark_midmark]

When I was watching this, I thought I would go with the Launchpad, but I like the less sensitive keys and pads on the Minilab. It seems better for recording because it gives great control over the dynamics

[@u9s0e9r]

Minilab user here. Love the build quality of the kit... however, the endless pots are a true nightmare to work with on Ableton. I can't stand them... they just don't work like real pots do! So I'm selling the Minilab and I' ll probably give Launchkey a try.... or move back to the Akai MPC Mini.

[@djpagz]

Check if changing the the Takeover mode setting in Ableton helps with Minilab?

[@u9s0e9r]

djpagzrockz already tried. It Helps a bit but far from ideal.

[@0AndrewBolt0]

Great review and I'll likely buy the Arturia - while the key and pads may not be instantaneous (on off) they will provide more nuance for expression when playing - A dedicated MIDI in/out is a must so I might wait until the next model.

[@StephenArrr]

Do you still prefer Novation Launch Key over the minilab? Update!

[@AdamCinemre]

This video pushed me over the edge to buying my first bit of studio gear (outside of DJ decks), and can't wait to play with my MiniLab :D Great video - keep it up!

[@minorcek]

The moment you said "the lauch key is the only one that arms tracks" the case was closed. My work flow is about to increase like a m.f.

[@nicolassergeretavaressousa6190]

if you look better at 5:11 when Taetro changes tracks with knob #8 , it automatically arms the selected one. @Taetro: can you confirm this please? Sorry if I misunderstood!

[@stephenstrang590]

@@nicolassergeretavaressousa6190 brilliant. I love KZbin comments. I confirmed that is exactly what happened. It also could be used to play an entire scene.

[@kinonico]

@@stephenstrang590 Thanks! At the time I was spending so much time comparing both controllers on various videos that I had become expert in not missing any details! :) Nevertheless, as I eventually got the Arturia Minilab MK2, I can confirm that the integration with Ableton is not very user-oriented: for example, I cannot scroll easily from a track to another one, or from a scene to another one, because a mere light twist on this very knob/encoder #8 scrolls 2 to 3 items at a time. Or maybe I've got it wrong when setting up the knob/encoder behaviour though. Also, to change the mode from instrument-Analog Lab to Ableton for example, you need to use both hands as the pads are too distant! So you cannot be playing WHILE changing modes. Overall, the Minilab MK2 won't allow you to control everything in Ableton without having to touch your computer keyboard/trackpad/mouse BUT it has an amazing feel when it comes to playing the keys (medium-sized, it really feels great) and the pads, and applying effects-FX with the dedicated knobs/encoders. I was looking for an Ableton-oriented portable and nomad production controller, and I guess I ended up with a "all-DAW-averagely-oriented portable* and steady and super responsive production controller". :) Portability would always depend on the user's preference, and to me, I can bring my Minilab MK2 everywhere I go (studio, rehearsal, travel, holidays) without having to think twice. I just know I'll need at least a medium-sized backpack and/or a protective case. But keep in mind that this piece of gear is super solid and durable! That also oriented my final choice.

[@mangoesDB]

@@kinonico If you want it to auto arm tracks like in the novation, you can make a options.txt file and type in enableArmOnSelection

[@kinonico]

@@mangoesDB Yes and that's what Taetro had pre-defined for this video session.

[@souldst]

Just got mk3 and am waiting on laptop to start making beats. Your videos helped me decide thnx

[@whiteleviathan2759]

Man I really love the video, I was searching for a good review comparing this two

[@brcxyz]

Thanks for the video, great production quality and these super specific 1 to 1 comparisons are really helpful.

[@Taetro]

Thanks for watching Alexandru!

[@hypeerth8724]

I went with auturia for the software synth it comes with as well as better build quality other than that they both look to perform and are just as capable of creation.

[@jakebarton891]

Thank you, definitely helped me decide to get the launchkey mini mk3

[@skooLxx]

New to you channel, really impressed with your production quality!!

[@Taetro]

Amazing. Welcome!

[@bubbacorndog]

The arm feature alone is the reason I just decided to go with the Launchkey and stray away from trying to live loop with the Arturia. The MiniLab Mk2 is super nice quality but it just misses that mark. Thanks for the video!

[@Taetro]

it's totally something that I wish was on more controllers for sure!

[@MaxwellMcKinnon]

What's the arm feature? Can't it be set up in the minilab too?

[@eliaselahmar212]

Very nice flow and quality of information, keep it up man!

[@volt7cooltangs701]

I wish they made both these mini key controllers in 3 octave 37 key versions. They are great and small but I find 2 octaves just too limiting as I always want to play the main riff or melody around the middle octave but chuck in the occasional bass note and high note whilst playing the main riff and experimenting. It’s not the same having to switch around on the octave keys. I have the minilab mkII and I really like it’s pitch and mod strips. They feel and work well. Would love the midi out and tiny size of the Novation too.

[@ajaykirar6425]

honest comparison , really helped ! Can you please elaborate on DAW integration of Minilab?

[@JBRitchie8]

Man, there's some features that the Launchkey has that I wish the Arturia one had. I don't know which one to choose.

[@habs]

which one did u get? Im in the same place right now.

[@dgkompoitsos]

​@@habs Hey guys I am also on the exact same position. What did you get? I love how speedy the toggle between individual tracks on Minilab is, but I also love the form factor and size of Launchkey as portability is a big factor for me. Ahh...

[@habs]

@@dgkompoitsos I finally went with the minilab 3 as I was able to snatch a great deal on dec. 2022. The keys was a deciding factor for me and the minicab is the king there. As far as portability, I don't see why it would be an issue.

[@dgkompoitsos]

@@habs Nice! Congrats for your purchase. I am also probably going with Minilab 3. Thanks for your response

[@habs]

@@dgkompoitsos You're welcome!

[@YoenValeria]

My point of view is that both midis are excellent but launchkey is just perfect for travelling producing 🥀✌🏼

[@rendermanpro]

Arturia Minilab MK2 is very solid. I prefer good build and solid product, instead of "plastic-fantastic". As well Arturia has not obvious feature, knobs are endless encodes, not limited range. BTW you can set encoder, and if you rotate faster it could be bigger value change. So, its adjustable. As you can see even in your video, if you rotate it slow, value changed a little, if you rotate fast - its big change of value. It much more flexible IMHO.

[@unxnxwn1798]

exactly. I'd rather take the time to learn and practice performing live with the Minilab, than sacrifice its durability, quality, feel and adaptability for 1 more row of drum pads lol. I don't like that the Launchkey is strictly Ableton; leaves no room for growth. It's the kind of equipment that lands on Offer Up after a year.

[@treepazr4270]

Any words on when the Arthurian minilab mk3 is gonna be out?

[@Fr0stbite1801]

Oh man, I am still going back and forth between these two in my mind. I'm still new to this whole music production thing and I can't yet say if superior feel or tighter Ableton integration will be the thing I value more in my first controller. Maybe I'll just buy the Minilab now and maybe a Launchpad down the line? Hmm...

[@napptus]

Same! Which did you get in the end?

[@Fr0stbite1801]

@@napptus I haven't bought any yet. My birthday's in a couple of weeks so I decided to do as much research into these two (and possibly other controllers) until then. I think it'll come down to the bundled software. I know Arturia's selection is quite good, so now I'm looking up the ones that come with a Launchkey. Good luck on your decision mate, and maybe share your thoughts when you get yours.

[@napptus]

@@Fr0stbite1801 Lol we're in the same situation, my birthady is in some weeks too. At the moment If prefer the Launchkey because it has an Arpeggiator and the Arturia not

[@Devland105]

I recommend the minilab, it still technically does everything while having a lot more universal features for different daws and that kind of thing, however if you're focusing on ableton I think the keystep is great for that

[@Fr0stbite1801]

Ok, a local online seller had a sale going so I decided to pull the trigger and buy myself a Launchkey Mini. I'll miss out on the Minilab but I'm planning on saving up for a full on Keylab Essential in the future, when I'm more experienced.

[@javierf55]

I personally use the pads more than knobs. Thanks for a very useful review

[@pault.2478]

Not really a fair comparison IMHO. You're only looking at DAW integration with Ableton, but everyone knows that Novation is basically built around that. If you i.e. take Pro Tools, Logic or Reaper then it becomes a whole different thing, since they do not use the scenes thing that Ableton uses... On the other hand, it's obvious that Analog Lab is very well integrated into the MiniLab, since it's both Arturia! So I'd like to see the comparison done again, but with the 'not-so-obivious' software... Just my 2 cents ;-)

[@Taetro]

it's really tough to compare a lot of these controllers since they all sort of have a software counterpart that they are ideal with, but I think the comparisons are helpful for those who don't understand the hardware/software synergy especially.

[@FabEnPeOr2]

@@Taetro I just started with Ableton and I find this Vid is the best and the only one that goes so deep into the comparison. As you mentioned in the Vid. You are an Ableton user. If someone needs another Software to compare like Paul seems to be, then I would look especially for that software. I think is a great comparison, I am just struggling to decide which one is the best for me as a beginner.

[@justsomeguy8385]

Seems fair when they both come with Ableton software, and they are both made with it in mind.

[@hitAsh6999]

What's good for fl studio 👐

[@Kevinschart]

taetro is an ableton user.. he can't test these things across every single recording configuration that's out there. There are plenty of channels that will break down why arturia's controller is the best companion for arturia software. Outside of specific software integration, midi controllers are basically the same. you assign knobs and pads and you play sounds...also it's safe to say that the launchkey is more feature packed. videos like this are great, but the vast majority of folks should just go out and get a controller, stop analyzing, and start making music. If there is a feature that you want after you've lived with a keyboard for a while, then do the research and find that feature.

[@CarolinaPerezP]

Thank you for this! It was just what i needed

[@WEHAVETHISDREAM]

05:10 - You contradict yourself and almost made me ponder more on the Novation, when you later in the video 07:30 say that only the Novation (between the two) arm tracks. I do see that in 05:10, while you were scrolling through tracks, they also got "armed" at the same time. Am I missing something?

[@samarpanraj5274]

Much awaited video but I already got my launchkey mk3 need to learn lot of things

[@andreacorrado]

Hi Taetro, would you recommend using the Arturia Minilab MK2 in combination with FL Studio 20? Thanks in advance for reply. BR, Cory

[@alvingray7207]

Great video, I was thinking about mini k3 then opted for Music computing Kami station instead.

[@st0rmchild]

One correction: the "custom" pad mode on the LaunchKey Mini mk3 can only send notes. They can't be configured to send CCs, so you can't really use them as buttons. This is something I hope they address in a future firmware or Components update.

[@st0rmchild]

Another one for the LaunchKey Mini mk3: you actually have to hold Shift and press Record to capture MIDI. Holding the button down doesn't do anything different; it just acts like you pressed the button normally and starts recording.

[@amanakeet]

What are CC's ?

[@dano4091]

In Ableton if you click the MIDI button in the right corner of the screen you can assign anything to the custom pads

[@st0rmchild]

@@amanakeet Control Change. It's a type of MIDI message. Notes are another type.

[@st0rmchild]

@@dano4091 Yes, you can do that, because Ableton Live lets you use any kind of MIDI message for those. But most things you would want to control with MIDI will only respond to CCs, in which case the pads can't be used. Other Novation products do allow the pads to send CC messages, so it's unfortunate they decided not to allow this on the LaunchKey Mini.

[@breadmaster101]

Does anyone know when the Arturia minilab 3 is coming out

[@yonghui2005]

Hey. I think currently not expect the MK3 series will roll out. Arturia just launch a Keylab Essential 88. Which is almost same layout with Minilab MK2.

[@randommcranderson5155]

@@yonghui2005 keyload essential 88 is already for sale.

[@boopsnoot2807]

In 3018 it will drop

[@pengi35]

Will there be a MK3 version of Minilab anytime soon? Do we have hints pointing in that direction?

[@pengi35]

​@@AlexLifeman Asking out of curiosity, since I was considering buying the minilab, and the curent minilab was released in 2016 if I am not mistaken. So in case a refresh is just around the corner, I would consider waiting for that.

[@Roselieansy]

@@pengi35 I was wondering the same thing, but typically that sort of thing would be at least announced at NAMM, and from my digging, a MK3 wasn't even mentioned at NAMM for this year. My guess would be 2021 at the earliest for a minilab MK3. Just a theory though!

[@peterveselenyi6967]

@@Roselieansy ok, thank you. the question isn't relevant anymore. I decided to buy a different mini keyboard, komplete kontrol M32.

[@Roselieansy]

@@peterveselenyi6967 Awesome!

[@photos.inthe.am_]

in the Launchkey mini MK3 can I customize the functions of the knobs on Ableton like the filter, resonance, frequency cutoff, etc??

[@sicoactivo]

Great review, thank you very much, it is great to have some knowledge on how the controllers will interact with Ableton, before buying hahaha

[@heyimoolox]

Have your opinions changed? I know Arturia released that new firmware upgrade that fixed the knob issues. I'm currently using logic. Which one would you prefer now?

[@gabealtier]

Was just about to pull the trigger on the Arturia... Thanks to you, I'm aware a better option exists! The Novation will be my first controller - excited to make stuff with it. I should also say, your production quality is excellent. Props! What camera are you using for your vids btw? Thanks again for this!

[@markburek6321]

This was my experience as well. Seeing how you posted this a month ago have you had any buyers remorse with the novation?

[@Feteronii]

i have the same question, what do you think now?

[@avramovixc]

@@markburek6321 just get the arturia, its better

[@PhilGerb93]

@@avramovixc why?

[@avramovixc]

Deon Cutinha PhilGerb93 midi controllers are all the same. They dont make sounds, your computer does so its all down to build quality and amount/placement of knobs, drumpads etc. With arturia you also get about 500 presets to play with. Novation and akai’s cheap keyboards literally feel like toys.

[@justjaloe]

Would love to hear which keyboard you use more or prefer. Thanks!

[@g.n.stacey]

The minilab’s keys are super nice. I don’t travel a lot with my minilab so that’s not really a problem for me. I think I prefer the minilab more.

[@EllieRose1997]

I have the minilab but it won't work with my new computer.. :( Any idea why... It won't connect..it says it will only work with usb 2.0 and not 3.0

[@ry7hym]

hmm that could be the deciding point why I'll maybe go with the Launchkey Mini then...

[@DaddyPants]

The only experience I have is with guitar and piano. I'm trying to get into sampling and making electronic music/beats so I'm looking go get my first midi board to mess around with. I like the minilab but it only has 8 pads. I feel like I'd need more so I feel like I'd be safer with launchkey. Then again I have no idea what I'm talking about until I get my hands on one of these things.

[@jeevanrohtak5126]

Updates ?

[@georgeaymanmusic]

is there a way to increase knobs response (acceleration) on this keyboard .. it reaches 127 by 3 knobs or something . can i adjust it to reach 127 by 1 or 2 turns ?

[@accentontheoff]

I’m finding it impossible to map the Arturia Minilab Mk2 properly to Logic Pro, esp the Smart Controls. Any advice?

[@rainbowstarks]

Thanks a bunch! I'm going to get a novation launchkey 49 and an arturia minilab, so best of both worlds :)

[@rammyswavesandhairlinesuck7071]

Nice :)

[@colinmuirmusic]

Yeah I prefer using the larger notation for live shows, and mini lab for travel production.

[@qwertyme8105]

subscribed, man if I hadn't watched your informative video, I think I would've grabbed something I wouldn't enjoy as much. Back to the drawing board aha.

[@marialoren8977]

Which one did you finally choose?

[@adriankonig2168]

I was just about to buy the Minilab, but a friend suggested I check out the Launchkey instead. Now I am beffudled and can't decide which way to go! On another note, could it be that the keys themselves play differently because Arturia's are specified as "velocity sensitive", while on Launchkey they only specify the pads as being "velocity sensitive", and not they keys themselves? Great video Sir, I just discovered you while looking for comparisons between these machines, and I was not disappointed. Well, maybe a little cause you made an excellent case for the Launchkey, and now I can't decide!

[@delscoville]

I had my heart set on the MinilLab Mk2 but I think it would be easier to make a Launchkey Mini MK3 to control Analog Lab than it would be to make a MiniLab MK2 to control Ableton as good. So I think I'll get the Launchkey Mini Mk3 instead.

[@Taetro]

Makes sense!

[@jandikable]

My knobs on Arthuria a lil loose, but good keys. I previously exchanged one because of them. But previous though had better knobs. Arthuria has very big divergence in out coming device quality. As if French don’t have quality control as Germans do

[@The-Epic-Jaysp]

I have a keylab esensal 61 but I really want to do live loops and a traval keybord i might be ordering a lanchkey mini soon

[@GiovanniAllegri]

How not-endless encoders behave when you move between devices? Let’s say I have device 1 with a low value for param 1 and device 2 with high value. If I have the knob low and I move to device 2 what happens when I slightly move the knob? Does the param jump immediately to a low value?

[@gama1639]

Thanks a lot for comparing the two midi controllers. Goa India

[@vijaycorey1639]

Hi I really need ur opinion here m looking to buy my 1 mini keyboard but m still confused. I use Ableton & protools also focusrite interface with condenser mic. I want more synths & sounds now m find both are good but compared to free software idk which one to buy

[@ry7hym]

I really find it hard choosing between the MIDI Keyboards. I'm new to producing and I'm looking for a small keyboard to put away on my desk easily. I feel like I'm gonna use the drum pads just as much as the keys, and the knobs a little less probably. I'm originally a guitar player, so I don't have much experience with playing piano, but I can get something out of it. I was looking at the *Novation Launchkey Mini MK3* , because I really liked the design and I found that it had exactly the right amount of functions I would use. But I'm using free DAWs so I don't have Ableton. then I was looking at the *Akai MPK Mini MK3* because of the great drum pads on it, although I've hear that the build quality is a little less and I don't like the Joystick. *Arturia Minilab MK2* . I was looking at this one because it had many great functions, but the downside I found was that the drumpads are less tactile. at last I was looking at the *Alesis V25* because It had a simplistic, minimalistic design, and good build quality. any advice?

[@alexterrieur9639]

M audio gonna release an oxygen pro mini, will be available in march. More keys, more options : note repeat, arp, daw control. I'm waiting reviews about build quality but it seems to be a good option, it's about 130$.

[@Fr0stbite1801]

Heads up, Launchkey and Minilab both come with Ableton Live lite, which also gives you discounted pricing if you want to upgrade to Ableton Live standard (and this also stacks with the 20% sale Ableton is having right now)

[@ry7hym]

@@alexterrieur9639 ooh that one looks like it has a ton of functions. Definitely gonna look more in to that one. One thing i immediately notice is that it has less knobs

[@RedBaron8698]

Looking to get my first MIDI controller. I'm leaning towards the Arturia because of the plug-ins and the build quality. Not really looking to travel much; I wanted to build my first home-studio set up to play around with music production. I also considered the Alesis v25.

[@RedBaron8698]

Got my arturia. They weren't kidding when they said that the arturia sounds are amazing.

[@virgotron9399]

Have they the latch/hold button? It's important for me to have both hands free for using knobs or play another instrument.

[@marialoren8977]

Does Launchkey and Arturia work with Fl Studio??

[@MindsEyeVisualGuitarMethods]

Hey Mr Man. Do you know if there is an arpeggiator program for application or use with the arturia MK2...?

[@ThatKid22101]

Someone should make a Midi that functions like Arturia but looks like Launckey.

[@mcdebugger]

Good inspiring comparison! Thank you!

[@just_jonah2]

Does anyone know how to keep the lights on or change the colors of the lights on the minilab, I use it with fl studio 20

[@rainfeedermusic]

Okay i have a got a question which most people might not have. Please reply somebody!! I have got arturia analog lab already. Would controlling it with novation launchkey mini mk3 be hard?

[@urluberlu2757]

Very Useful! Furthermore, very clear and understandable for french people! Thanks :-)

[@AdiKoopa]

Launch key mini3 is the way for me as I will be working solely in ableton 11

[@ry7hym]

exactly the comparison I was looking for

[@Pabloamasifuenmusic]

I'm on my way to get one of this. Which one should I get for producing?

[@lucasvieira1805]

Bro, you can configurate the arturia knobs on their software

[@AlvaroALorite]

Can you share how?

[@lucasvieira1805]

@@AlvaroALorite Download and install the Arturia midi control center. it will recognize automatically.

[@sebaxtini1068]

Hello crack! Very good video. I'm thinking of buying a MIDI controller to create electronic and film music, but I don't know which controller to start with. I am between a Novation Launchkey 37 MK3 and an Arturia MiniLab 3. Which of the two do you recommend? I want one that works very well and is not too limited.

[@zerocel]

thinking about getting a Arturia Minilab MKII but afraid new one will come out soon?

[@titochavez9114]

Alfonso Qy it’s only 97$ ,I say go for it .

[@santh0sh27]

How does the workflow change when it comes to other daws like fl? The knobs and recording and navigating using only midi keyboard is the same?

[@ry7hym]

probably, the Arturia will feel better and the Novation would perform much less than with Ableton

[@avivtalis1455]

hey, what is the difference between launchkey 25 to launchkey mini mk3 ? as I understand the launchkey 25 is more comfortable because it׳s more big and quality of built is better, but the mk3 is an update for the launchkey so maybe there is new functions that not come with the launchkey 25. I don't know what to choose.. what is your recommendation ?

[@ry7hym]

the launchkey 25 is simply a bigger keyboard with more functions than the mini. the 25 has wheels instead of touch pads, it has a screen, more buttons, like loop, up down, etc. basically its bigger and you can control more of the DAW with it. Full size keys on the 25 is also important to mention

[@yashvoladoddi]

I've started making lofi beats and a couple of hip hop songs, but they really aren't "mine", since i just looped them on Groovepad. I wanted to ask you which i should buy to start making my own songs from scratch - the minilab mk2,the mpk mini mk3 or the launchkey mini??! also, nice channel man :o

[@usmonyusupov5103]

I’m pretty torn between them. Which one would you recommend more?

[@ArisGoD1986]

I'm a guitarist and i just subscribed in your cahnnel. Good work!

[@ry7hym]

hey same

[@pstrokeslibsarctic]

You use JBL FLIP as a primary speaker? I do that too since I can’t afford studio monitor just yet 😅

[@Taetro]

I’ve got monitors but the flip is a great speaker 😁

[@pstrokeslibsarctic]

@@Taetro i already got the studio speaker 😁

[@sepehr3094]

Which one works better with FL Studio? High quality video btw🔥

[@seanodonnell1271]

Hey Sepehr! Im an ableton user but i have done a lot of research and even used fl studio myself. In FL you dont need the control as much, so i would go for the minilab! Its stronger and has more knobs, but novation has a lot more control for ableton. Over all i would go for the Arturia Minilab Mk2! Have a good time producing 😁🙏

[@sepehr3094]

@@seanodonnell1271 thank you so much for your perfect explanation🙏🙏🌹

[@seanodonnell1271]

@@sepehr3094 no problem bro i know the struggles of starting off as a musician 🙂

[@mhendricks850]

I want a midi keyboard but it might be worth it to wait for the minilab mk3? Idk I've been stuck in which one of these to get and Aturai might not even be working on a minilab 3 right now lol

[@angelo8142]

I have the launchkey and I'm really enjoying it if this helps, it's very practical and fun to use