Arya Organic vs Ananda Nano vs He-1000v1

[@Marian1st.]

That’s how I feel about HD600 vs HD660S2. 600 is more enjoyable for the background music , while 660S2 brings out more details that it makes you be aware of other layers in the music.

[@d0nj03]

Haha, still impressed with how accurate you are at describing headphone tonality, staging, detail presentation, everything, even though your personal preferences are the opposite of mine on almost every count: I'd have absolutely stuck with the HEKv1 since critical-listening sessions are what I see as worth spending the big bucks for (Kilobuck headphones for background listening?? Blasphemy!), and in critical-listening I absolutely need the headphones to monopolize the hell out of my attention and not let my mind wander at all.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Mine was too for a long time, but it eventually gets uhm tiresome, to be mentally stimulated after a lot of hours (especially when my work is already mentally stimulating) I think I didn’t admit in this video that he1kv1 is def the better headphone.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Susvara manages to have the detail and stage that I like and timbre (when on a really good amp) while still somehow not making my brain think too hard.

[@nusu5331]

thank you for the comparison! instant follow. I am also looking for the most distant soundstage that is very deep and layered. Dont care for width tho. Also i dont care for details, exciting punchy tuning and treble glare. Most important for me is a feelling like sitting in a large concert hall in the last row. I dont listen to vocals but mostly large orchestra classical music and sometimes edm. Which planar under 1.500$ would you recommend?

[@nyvoreviews5443]

None of them really do that in that price range. The ones that come to mind are Voce, Susvara but they both require extremely expensive chains. Hd800 is a cheaper alternative but also requires an expensive chain. So unfortunately you want get what you are looking for. You and I have the same issue, Our preference type is the most expensive. Shang sr does it in a way that is different. I think I mentioned it in a video. It’s not like being in a concert hall, but it is cool in a different way. It’s almost like the sounds are coming at you like lasers

[@ThisHandleIsTakenTryThis]

@@nyvoreviews5443what do you do for a living? Like what’s your job.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@ThisHandleIsTakenTryThisIT

[@seichtracks]

Hi NyVo, I’m wondering what your opinion is on lossless vs lossy files? Do you personally find flac files to have a noticeable improvement when listening on higher end gear?

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Usually yes. It’s generally a fairly subtle difference…however, one of the bigger differences is the mastering of whichever file you are listening to. For example a dsd file and a flac file and a lossy file could all be the same album but from 3 different masters and therefore they can sound different for more than one reason. The difference that I notice between the formats is that I just feel more at ease when it is lossless. It’s easier for me to feel the difference than it is to hear it… I don’t know how to explain this, but maybe someday this brief explanation will make sense to you. Lossy can make me slightly irritable.

[@Viewer13128]

1:53 hmm. so the original Arya has its own value that later revisions don't have. what specs does the amp require to achieve that staging effect with the original Arya? Is it a matter of Vrms? Does Arya Organic have better resolution than the original Arya?

[@nyvoreviews5443]

I did an amp shootout video with arya v1. The amp that did it was hsa-1b

[@maisun2160]

Thanks for the comparison, does ananda nano sounds more bright to you comparing to ananda og?

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Yea it does, but the main reason I got rid of ananda nano is because it doesn’t have the same fit as the original which fit me perfectly. They look the same to me but somehow the original fit me a lot better.

[@maisun2160]

@@nyvoreviews5443 thanks for your reply! I had OG and tried Stealth, I can certainly feel stealth has more clamping force, maybe that’s the reason. For me OG is too loose on my head :-)

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@maisun2160ah okay then. That helps confirm that I’m not crazy thanks, haha. At the end of the day I just prefer OG ananda due to it being closer to most of my preferences. My main preference being stage type. Nano was good but boring to me… its more like a normal headphone. But might be completely different for you.

[@ssolx5527]

interesting comparison, can you make a video describing the types of soundstage a bit better? i really enjoy soundstage so im curious about different types especially on hifiman models., also, is the arya v1 the best soundstaging hifiman? or is he1000 stealth/se or susvara better than arya v1? do you think buying refurbished hifiman products makes sense or are those mostly openbox that got sent back or have bad quality/sound problems? im really struggling making a decision between xs/nano/organic/aryav1 and he1000 stealth(refurbished) esp since i dont have dac/amp yet:/ also interesting you said you prefer xs bass over nano, since some reviews said the nano bass is very powerful and they took away some soundstage., is the xs and nano soundstage the same or are there quality/different types of soundstage between the 2?

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Susvara is the best soundstaging Hifiman but you need a pretty insane chain to make that happen. It’s an incredible headphone. If you underpower it, it will sound just a little bit better than a Koss. The stage type depends on your chain but it can be very wide left to right. Or kind of globe shaped, I did explain this in my Susvara video. Arya v1 I also explained in a shootout video. It wasn’t until I had it on hsa1b ribbon output that the stage got Huuuge. On everything else the stage was kinda just like a normal. The stage type is wide left to right and how wide just greatly depends on your chain. On my 430ha it was not very big. He1000se I only heard on ef600 which I didn’t not like but I can imagine this on staging very large, however it lacked too much bass, so unless you hate bass I would avoid this headphone. He1000 is like an oval shape and not very large. He1000v2 stage shape is awkward and does not smoothly transition in distance as it goes around your head, I can only tolerate them on some tube amps.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

I personally haven’t bought any refurbished. But I’m not against it I haven’t tried he1000 stealth. Arya organic stage is kinda similar to XS but it seem kinda small but with a lot more detail than XS, which kinda makes up for the smaller stage size

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Oh and between XS and nano, I think XS stage is just a bit better

[@GabrielDaSilva-c3e]

@@nyvoreviews5443 would u say Ananda is better than XS though ?

[@GabrielDaSilva-c3e]

⁠@@nyvoreviews5443 they are basically same price and I'm trying to decide. My budget is $650 max for headphones themselves not including amp and dac, also would you mind sharing what amp + dac you would pair with your choice. Amanda or XS

[@ToThinkorNot]

I thought an amp just gives power? How does a better amp increase soundstage if listening levels are the same?

[@denis4072]

I think he refer to Arya v1 which is power hungry and would need more power to delivered it max capability. So better amp he referring to higher wattage output. Example if you have a low SPL speaker and when driving them with 100W RMS amp vs 1000W RMS, of course 1KW will give you clearer sound at higher volume while 100W will start to distort at higher volume.

[@shrillyy1604]

What headphones would you recommend for only gaming. I have a dt880 600ohm on thx888 amp. Watched your video on it a wondered what you actually like.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

need more info, price range- including amp, etc

[@shrillyy1604]

@@nyvoreviews5443 already got an amp thx888. I’m not sure how good it is anymore. But 800 for just headphones. And if you think I need it another 500 for amp.

[@el3ndiill]

@@nyvoreviews5443 i want to ask same question. i have sundara,HD800, its great but it lacks from texture, it is too sterile, even dt 990 pro 600 ohm has more "texture" color. what do you think about buying ananda stealth V3 or nano? Mainly for gaming/videos/some music. I am using topping dx7 pro with mod (same opa like plus), and moondrop dawn for mobile, ordered today also smsl dl200 (looks promising for 185 usd)

[@LandsPlanes]

Hi! For you its better overall headphone Arya Stealth or Ananda Nano. Sorry for my english.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

I haven’t heard the Arya stealth. I have Arya organic and I like it a lot better than nano.

[@MrCellus27]

Hey man, could you recommend a dac+amp for XS? I know im stupid but im using them directly from my onboard audio and they sound the same as my 990s but more quiet...yeah. Even the soundstage is no different. Really disappointed because of that, is something like Fiio k7 + balanced cable gonna make a difference? I knew it was a bad idea buying XS without an amp+dac but i thought i will be fine just like with 990s. Seems like not gonna work with planar drivers.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Budget?

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Btw the 2nd half of my XS video shows my impressions of XS on different amps

[@MrCellus27]

@@nyvoreviews5443 Budget is ~200$. I just want them to sound better than my 990s. I'll watch your review, thank you.

[@2ndAveScents]

Hey brother, just got my XS yesterday and right away I’m both blown away and disappointed. These are my first planars so I’m not sure if this is a characteristic of all of them, but they sound like when you take a great pair of open back headphones and you cup your hands over the outside of the earcups while listening. They have a tone that reminds of when people put their phone in a cup to make it louder lol. The bass is really great and I love the detail without the harshness. They don’t need much EQ at all but respond very well to any EQ I apply. I’m wondering if I go for an Arya or HE1000 will I still be met with that head in a tin can tone that I’m experiencing on my XS?

[@nyvoreviews5443]

You need to use them for at least 3 days straight to give your brain time to adjust. Let me know in a couple days what you think.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Were you able to spend more time with XS?

[@2ndAveScents]

@@nyvoreviews5443 hey dude, yes and you were right it took about a week for the tone to change but the biggest difference was when I found oratory1990 post on Reddit about EQ compensation profiles based on measurements. I tried it out and adjusted to my taste and fixed the sound big time. It made such a huge difference for music listening

[@MaskedOG]

If you get anything I would get the Arya Organic. Holographic on them are the best. He1000se is great and a bit clearer but Organics are by far the best if you eq the low end a little. Also you need a little adjustment time with every new Headphone.

[@LastAphelion]

I was impressed with the XS low end but missed the upper end clarity and detail so Im getting Nano next... hope thats the final destination for me lol

[@mtnmankeith9069]

What the best chain that you’ve found for the Arya organic? Or it doesn’t matter? I’m planning on running it off of the mojo 2. And are they better then xs at gaming?

[@nyvoreviews5443]

I still haven’t had time to play around with chains with arya organic, but as far as I can tell so far they don’t scale that much. Mojo2 should be fine. I don’t think it’s a big advantage over XS for gaming. If you want a headphone that is specifically good for gaming, you might something else, but it’s not bad at gaming, just not as good as headphones that are good for gaming. If I have time, I’ll test organic on other chains. (Not sure if I will have time though if I’m being honest)

[@mtnmankeith9069]

What is your favorite headphone for gaming? I’m currently using Amiron Home with Valhalla 2/mojo 2. I also use mojo 2 with the xs.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@mtnmankeith9069 Susvara, sr-009s and hd800 are all pretty good for competitive fps gaming.

[@Alejuandro.6500.]

Being stranded in 2023 without money is life-threatening but not in 1887

[@nyvoreviews5443]

What?

[@larrybaygaming]

@@nyvoreviews5443he’s probably referring to your comment on the video about the young man being kicked out at 18 and you said you didn’t see what the big deal was. That’s where I came from and the comments are now locked due to reaching the threshold so I also decided to come here to provide some insight because you seem like a nice and reasonable person just genuinely confused. What makes it a problem is a parent is supposed to teach their kids how to survive and provide for themselves. It’s really counterproductive to just kick a kid out the day they turn 18 without making sure they have the proper knowledge and understanding on how to get started at their own life. It’s like me giving a 5 year old a bunch of raw ingredients and telling them to make their own thanksgiving dinner. I can’t expect the kid to know how to cook without showing him/her how to do so. My father used to do a similar thing where, at times, he would expect me to know how to do things just because I’m his son and he knows how and completely ignoring that he never taught me how. When he taught me? I’d learn quick and a lot of times end up performing the techniques better than he could but without learning how can any adult expect a child to do something they’ve never done? As for the guy commenting about how the current times makes it even harder: do you know how hard it is to even get a job without a phone number, a stable address and access to records like your SSN (not just knowing it but actually having your physical card), birth certificate etc.? It’s not impossible but it’s not as easy as wake up and have a job before sundown simple. Parents should be teaching their kids these skills before expecting them to make it out on their own. It’s really that simple. Just like you wouldn’t serve someone soup without a spoon you shouldn’t take your child to another state and leave them while expecting them to make it on their own on their 18th birthday before they even graduate high school. At the VERY LEAST he should have been able to finish school and have the following summer to get a job and iron out all of the other components he’d need to have in stone before setting out on the world on his own. Hope this helps…

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@larrybaygaming so which headphones you like

[@larrybaygaming]

@@nyvoreviews5443 the ones I’m using

[@balllovewow]

If soundstage width of HD800s = 10/10 and Arya V1 = 9/10 then what point u gonna give to Organic? (because soundstage is one of my priority) THANK!!!

[@nyvoreviews5443]

It highly depends on what chain hd800 and arya are on. The amp matters a lot. But arya v1 is the widest I’ve heard so it’s 10/10, hd800 is about 8/10 and organic is around 3/10 based on what I’ve heard it on so far. So take that with a grain of salt.

[@weeyenseng]

Is arya organic worth the price 2x of ananda nano?

[@MaskedOG]

Yes.

[@S.G54321]

Hell no! Maybe $50 better or $100 better at max? What a lot of reviewers miss is source synergy. They use brighter leaning sources which simply doesn't pair well with the Ananda Nano. Yes the Arya Organic may have a slightly lusher tuning, a touch more soundstage. But pair the Ananda Nano with some tubes, or a tube hybrid amp, or a tube pre amp into a great solid state amp. It makes a huge world of difference. You gain more soundstage, the low end kicks hard and has amazing extension into the low end. Mids gain some warmth and feel more life like. Treble smoothens and becomes etheral. It's literally very similar to a Sennheiser HD800/800s. Would you rather listen to a HD800 on a solid state or nice tubes? I'd pick tubes all day long. The Ananda Nano just needs a warm source and it's a world of difference. People saying the Ananda Nano lacks low end and it's to bright... I have no idea what they're on about. The HD800s, Beyer DT1990, Focal Clear OG even the Arya to my ear have sharper peaks that are more bothersome to me. So it's tricky to choose which is best for you. But ultimate judge is your ears. I first bought the Arya Organic and really really like them. But then had the Ananda Nano. At first I did feel the were bright. But not as bright as a HD800 or DT1990. So I decided to try them with tubes. Yep, tubes is the way to go with Ananda Nano. Planar endgame

[@alifarooq4232]

@@S.G54321what are ur opinions about both of these headphones now? I was thinking to buy Arya organic. Should I go for nano if there’s not much big difference

[@романпундель]

thank you, I will buy Arya Organic, it's a pity, of course, that I will live without a kidney, but I hope it's worth it.

[@sumanthduggirala1887]

is he1000v1 still available to purchase

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@sumanthduggirala1887 I sold my pair.

[@mtnmankeith9069]

Is the Arya organic amp picky? Or does it sound good on most amps.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

From what I can tell so far, not really. It doesn’t seem to scale nearly as far as arya v1

[@nyvoreviews5443]

And so far it hasn’t sounded bad really

[@amberfiregem2932]

Question do these headphones work with 3.5mm ports or things like phones and laptops?

[@gdemirjian]

I traded in my Arya Stealth back to Hifiman to step up. I almost got the Organic but not enough feedback yet. Your video really doesn't tell me much about it either. I got the HEk Stealth instead and love it with my SMSL-9 stack. No EQ needed. I'd bet the Organic sounds veiled in comparison. I tried my friends HEk V1 and liked it. He sold it so I can't a/b with the HEk Stealth. I tried the OG Ananda and a/b with the Arya Stealth and the Ananda sounded flat in comparison. I'd love to hear the Organic against the HEk Stealth still. Do a more detailed video on the Organic.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Have you heard arya v1? If so. It’s just like that with more detail making it seem smoother too, but with a smaller stage, not as resolving as he1000 v1 or v2.

[@gdemirjian]

Yeah, I think I made the right move with the HEk Stealth. It's at a crazy price now too. I'll bet the Organic goes under 1000 for Christmas. Thanks!@@nyvoreviews5443

[@NintenPizza]

@@nyvoreviews5443 For music, movies and gaming would it better to go with the Arya Organic, V1 or the DT1990's?

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@NintenPizza​​⁠my actual favorite is AirPods Pro rev2 with Apple TV. But between these 3, I would go with Arya v1. Organic can get annoying after long periods if you don’t have the right chain. 1990 would get annoying immediately

[@InitialAA]

Nano seems good

[@Morvont]

wow that was nyvolicious

[@greenwhite8133]

nice review dude

[@BTthekingnocap]

I doubt you are the guy who was all alone at 18, got a job while being homeless and then bought a plain ticket to Germany, and got your parents a Tesla and upgraded their house, you went through all that, and now you game and make reviews of technology that our generation uses, but in the comment you say our generation is soft? When you yourself clearly respect and come from that generation. Ah yes someone who truly did all of those, and is still making reviews for headphones and gaming. if that stuff is true, go live your life. Also uh, great grammar and spelling for someone who is financially perfect enough to upgrade his family’s house and give them a Tesla 😂

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Would you rather I lied?

[@skankhunt_4319]

The Tesla alone screams bs, this sad mf just another electronic youtuber that spews his bile onto people he never even met. Just another peasant troll who can't handle a single second without bragging about something he doesn't even have. Nothing to see here (pathetic sigma pretender)

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@skankhunt_4319 what about the tesla.

[@ananderv2]

Are you NyVo from sonic gateway server? I’m Anander, LOL

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Never heard of her

[@bigherb]

Hifiman Anander

[@denis4072]

TBH if you're buying Ananda I would recommend that you save up and go with Arya. It's much much more resolving HP and overall you won't regret it.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Do you mean ananda nano?

[@denis4072]

@@nyvoreviews5443 Ananda SE. But in general all of Hifiman line up to Ananda, the sound isn't resolving until you reach Arya level and there no beating around the bush to make it better.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@denis4072 in my experience, it seems to depend on the chain. With the original ananda and arya both on Apple dongle or even a schiit stack, they sound pretty similar. Once you have arya on a decent amp it starts to pull away from ananda, and once arya is on a really good amp, it leaves ananda in the dust. So for people without the money for the chain, ananda is a decent recommendation. … I haven’t heard ananda se Ananda nano isn’t too far from arya, it has a lot more detail than the original ananda, but there is something about it that just feels like something is missing (to me)

[@prabinpaudel5572]

VS cryo Amanda? 😋

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Cryo ananda has close to the same amount of detail as ananda nano, but nano has less problems.

[@jesterplays983]

Bro can upload on yt and comparing himself to somebody who's homeless The fact that bro even said its nothing is crazy,that's straight up fcked up

[@nyvoreviews5443]

What’s even crazier is that you think you know my life story.

[@jesterplays983]

@@nyvoreviews5443 u think im stupid? Ik someone with experience wouldn't react like u,u really think ur right on this? Acting like u suffered,ik a person who suffered,the fact that u even think ur right that

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@jesterplays983oh, you know everything, don’t you.

[@Mroyalali]

I saw your comments on the video with the guy getting kicked out by his mother, the reply section reached its limit so I couldn’t reply, but do you seriously think it was a good idea? Cause you left on your own so you obviously knew what to do and was already prepared. The guy was just randomly kicked out on his birthday. So ofcourse it gonna be easier for than for him.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

If you read through the entire comments section, I did leave my full opinion. As for being easier. No one said it would be easy either way, I would certainly not call my journey easy. Bruce Lee is quoted saying, “Don’t pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one.” But yes, I do think ultimately he will be better off on his own. Short-term will not be fun, but he will be better off in the long-run.

[@Mroyalali]

@@nyvoreviews5443 but you can agree that the mom is still cruel?

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@Mroyalali probably. Don’t know the full story though. The son might be cruel. Who knows

[@InitialAA]

​​@@nyvoreviews5443yeah, random 18 year old out in the roads clearly clueless, not educated or aware about what to do was potentially "cruel." Him being "kicked out" may have been a bit more justifiable if he was already made to prepare or given guidance from his parents who were given the duty to literally raise him and guide him to prepare for what the world has to offer and what he should do, but from the given context a person with half a brain can easily figure out that wasn't the case; otherwise we wouldn't have seen the video, rather the guy would have already found a place since in that case he would have already known what he should have done. Don't know if this has come across your mind, but you should think a bit about the fact that perhaps something is off with your judgement, or perhaps it is that you missed the context-clues in that video and based your replies on the basis that the kid had already knowm what should have been done. Just don't kick your own kids out all of a sudden after raising them into a comfortable life like the video, if you do happen to have kids. Prepare them for the world from an early age and make them familiar with your teachings and mindset. From what I have understood, you have solid morals; just some miscommunication under internet threads. I'm sure you'll be a great father, your sons will be great men. Cheers.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@InitialAA too many what-If’s to really have a good conversation about this, but I do know he is likely better off on his own, at least for now. I don’t think he should already have a place to stay since it is his first day there. If it was me, my first thought would be food, water, shelter, job. But I don’t see the point in going back to his Mom, since it is a toxic environment and she is legally not obligated to shelter him. Sure it’s a messed up situation, but we don’t know the whole story. He could be the bigger asshole, we don’t know.

[@stevendavis1135]

Damn this is so painful to listen to. Your presentation is like watching literal paint dry dude jesus

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Designed that way on purpose to fight short-attention spans.

[@iamchickennuggetperson2525]

This is boring

[@nyvoreviews5443]

Purposely did not design my videos for people with short attention spans.

[@iamchickennuggetperson2525]

@@nyvoreviews5443 you are a fast responder😀👍

[@iamchickennuggetperson2525]

10/10 video

[@fwP4YB4CK]

@@iamchickennuggetperson2525cap

[@airun5362]

I've heard He1000. Nothing special. Boring flat tuning.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

What amp was it on?

[@explorinlearnindoing5462]

What did you buy instead?

[@airun5362]

@@nyvoreviews5443 it was cayin HA-1A mk2

[@airun5362]

@@explorinlearnindoing5462 ​not "instead", it was better or on par with DCA Noire 2. They just dont bring me emotions from listening. Maybe they mostly for analytical or relaxed listening. Not for fast pased -fun industrial-metal music. Or Amp affected a lot in negative way.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@airun5362haven’t tried that one but a lot of tube amps are terrible for planars.

[@picklesandufos7860]

I don't like things that are too good, cuz it makes me pay attention more. When I go see a movie, I only like seeing bad movies, so that I don't have to pay attention as much. Headphones-wise, I like headphones from Bose, Fisher Price, and Kraft...so that I don't have to pay attention as much. Your audio decisions are weird, but Jesus loves you.

[@danielwu7238]

Exactly what I was thinking, it doesnt make much sense...

[@MaskedOG]

If you would listen and think you could maybe understand. You dont want to always get everything pushed on you. It´s like a picture, you dont want everything clearly seperated and standing out all the time. Sure maybe sometime you do but most times you dont it is tiring and not really fun. It also differs from person to person. I thouroughly enjoy detail´s and cant get enough so I would choose different. But I am not him.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

@@MaskedOGyeah…. I like having one headphone for amazing technicalities and another for chillin.

[@nyvoreviews5443]

For the egg shaped Hifimans. I prefer the ones that are more chill. Since I already have multiple headphones that do technicalities better.