[Asan Plenum 2014] Session 5 -- Future of Democracy

[@mistman5640]

46:10 Did you all get the reference? Same mens club in San Francisco. OMG. I never figured. I am watching this in 2024. Eric as always is 100% right and so prescient.

[@foxmulderms]

The best speech of Eric.

[@terry1708]

There is another in nexus 25 year, 2020 I think. That one is very very great!

[@nick-sw3in]

As an Indian I approve liberal democracy destroyed my country since 1947

[@CaishenSalelius]

Modi is destroying india futher

[@23andrelopes]

Eric Li is amazing

[@mikebacchus5421]

I love Eric plain talk. No big words and beatin around the Bush.China should continue in their 1 party system. US also have 1 party hidden as 2 parties.

[@lovelight5714]

Yes! US left wings and right wings are same birds.

[@mikebacchus5421]

Dr. Eric LI is correct about Democracy

[@fannyalbi9040]

9 years later. how democratic and hypocrisy are

[@tutuluvable]

By the 1%, from the 1%, and for the 1%. A land of freedom and equality.

[@sherashera7791]

Western hypocricy at the higest level

[@bhmcrumbs1348]

"one person, one vote" has never been implemented in the U.S. Senate, in terms of representation by states. Not to mention gerrymandering, vote restrictions, etc. Electoral college permits the election of a presidental candidate who does not win the most votes.

[@Jingweizhixin]

名嘴(talking on television)😆left In Taiwan 😂😂😂 还有人看吗？我是跟踪Eric Li 来到这的，喜欢他的内容和自信表现！

[@lsh4406]

Agree with you absolutely! 😅

[@pauloroberto7875]

Watching this in 2020 is so funny!!! They should do a new round to debate with the same people and watch the video and revise their points.

[@RenatoCada-j3s]

Distributive coalition. Yes! thats a very appropriate description of US government and its client states like the Philippines.

[@fTA-yd1ww]

I agree with the chinese in the panel : Taiwan is catastrophique ! (ça me fait mal au coeur !!!)

[@bingqizhou6339]

Agreed in 2021

[@coronavirusisacommunistchi845]

Taiwan is the true legitimate government of Mainland China. The Chinese Communist government is an illegitimate bastard usurper.

[@fTA-yd1ww]

@@coronavirusisacommunistchi845 With your Imbecile logique, Taiwan is also an illegitimate Vis-a-vis Qing Dynasty !!!

[@terry1708]

​@@coronavirusisacommunistchi845 As a westerner, do you believe in democracy, one man one vote? If yes, do you think who will win?CPP or KMT?

[@hdvoice]

Taiwan is in deep shit in 2023. TSMC is relocating to US and Japan. The economy is bad for common people. The political atmosphere is toxic after years of “democracy”. Bad policy after bad policy. All driven by ideological hatred and not data and geopolitical analysis of its own position.

[@dougspray7160]

Somebody just said, we must have rule by law, which must be obeyed whether you are a Prince or ordinary citizen. In any ideal state surely Princes etc shouldn't exist. This same man inferred China is not ruled by law. Of course China has laws, criminal, property, political, etc etc. Law in the West can be determined by money you have in hiring the best lawyers.

[@qiangwang689]

I have been into Eric❤️

[@Albert_Einstein_not]

Please keep your sexual fantasies to yourself

[@tutuluvable]

One person one vote is participation without influence. Once a politician is elected, he or she stopped listening to the people. One only “feels”powerful on the day of voting. And it stops there.

[@andyhujian]

The Chinese guy can talk.

[@joeching]

jewish guys can talk better. that's why karl marx was able to enslaved chinese as opium addict for more than a century by simply branded the greatest civilization in human history, china, as "backward and corrupt" and then all the domestic vultures like sun yat-sen and chiang kai-shek followed to bring 38 years of living hell to china, until mao, with the help of japanese intervention, liberated china and asia mainland.

[@徐松-b3q]

Joe Ching 你就是个白痴，我真没别的话对你讲了。

[@joeching]

shipeng LI 我50年没有写中文。但我在重新学。 check out the following to see where u cant understand. maybe i ll try to translate. but my main point is that: 在第2次世界大战，中国是：抗亚援西 Book review for: Hirohito and the Making of Modern Japan www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060931302/ref=pe_1205900_141520640_em_1p_0_ti LET’S NOT TALK ABOUT JAPAN UNTIL ASIA AND AMERICA REACH MILITARY PARITY WWII was a turf war among the military powers of the world on how to cut up Asia, Africa and the Mideast. It was an opportunity for Asia to reclaim its past splendor by clearing the Western colonists out of Asia. As the recent rise of Asia testifies to, we should expect that Asia should not have any problem to liberate itself during WWII. But two factors derailed this liberation effort. First, it was the Christian converts in Asia. The Chinese Christian converts actually maneuvered so effectively that the Asia liberation effort was derailed into one that actually tried to preserve the presence of colonists in Asia, not only in China, but also in Burma and Thailand. This happened in the Xian Mutiny, in which rebelling leaders force the Chinese leader, Chiang Kai-shek, to stop exterminating the indigenous resistance to foreign colonization and to start just to fight the Japanese, which was leading the liberation effort. Japan, at the end, only got the support of the Buddhist countries in Asia, such as Burma and Thailand. Second, it’s the subject of this article - propaganda based on self-fulfilling prophecy, such as the forgery of Tanaka Memorial, and fabricated smear, such as the Nanking Massacre, both aimed at Japan. With America holding such undisputable military superiority that make America the judge, jury and executor, all Asian countries thus far are basically voiceless, except for the pro-West, and mostly anti-Asia, Christian converts, who continue the Western tradition of seamless propaganda. This book is providing them with the appropriate material to keep Asia divided and conquered for the benefit of the West. Historical evidences ignored by most historians: 1. chiang kai-shek caused the nanking masscre by pulling the commanding general tang out of his post in nanking, after tang warned chiang that his leaving would cause a massacre. 2. chiang did that to revenge his humilitiation at the xian mutiny, of which 12/13 was the 1st anniversary. in fact, chiang murdered more chinese people in the following spring at the yellow river flood( upward of 30 million, in 3 provinces and 5 years), but also blamed it all on the japanese, that it's the japanese who broke the dykes, not him according to the communists later investigations. 3. chiang and his spy master daili had already sent a team headed by qian xinming to do some photo shoots of the nanking masscre album that fabricated this whole event of nanking massacre. this is a album self-scripted, self-directed and self-enacted by qian's crews, whom, immediately afterwards, were sold out to the japanese military police to be executed for their smearing job of japanese troops. even though chiang and dai li lied to the world(thru my colleague at university of california, wakeman, jr) that qian defected to the japanese secret intelligence agents, the widows of qian's men recently testified that's not the case. qiang actually send the photo to wu han, and passed on to the western media, before, after a few months, surrendering to the japanese. but when the japanese found out he had fabricated the photo album, they executed him immediately. 4. all chinese people should ask themselves this question: had not japan occupied all the ports on the eastcoast and blockaded america's arms shipment, do u think china under mao would be able to survive chiang kai-shek's campaign to exterminate china's peasant resistance? chinese historians should not repeat the public evidences produced by pro-west chinese traitors, mostly christian converts, and draw ridiculous conclusions. at the minimum, we need to base what really happened on records the mao's people have on the commanding general tang, whom mao rescued, but was falsely advertised by chiang as shot by firing squad. well, he lived to a ripe age in his 80's as a top party official. but the best way is to let the japanese tell us their story, in 2020, when the combine military power of china and japan reaches parity with america. UNEQUAL TREATIES What are the unequal treaties. They are treaties forced upon the victim country by brutal force of military superiority. How can unequal treaties terminated? Also only by military power. Historically as defined in Wikipedia, “An unequal treaty is any of a series of treaties signed with Western powers during the 19th and early 20th centuries by Qing dynasty China. But why does China only consider its own as unequal treaties? And why doesn’t China, and for that matter, all Asia, consider the most unequal of unequal treaties, the Potsdan Declaration imposed on Japan by America an unequal treaties?

[@joeching]

dilegentelectron i wrote this just for u: ME AND MY UC,BERKELEY I graduated from uc,berkeley in 3 years with full scholarship and most of living expenses. i went back to teach to pay back what ucb has given me, after getting my ph.d. and stings at oakridge national lab and energy, inc. in 1977, i essentially had to break ucb's 25 years of hiring freeze, as well as hiring of asia professors in a school with 30% of the student body being asians, while less than 1% of the faculty. from my computer code worksho class, i trained the best software automation nuclear engineers. i routinely got calls from the top nuclear research labs and power companies requesting to hire my students. of course they would get the worst of my students in the workshop, since the best are already too busy doing a startup with me in centralized nuclear software automation for the nuclear community, that was an pioneering effort, way back in the 80's, out of the boeing supercomputing center, to do what today we called cloud computing with large data. among the achievements of our company, energy engineering computer laboratory(EECCL), were the solution of many of the critical issues in the 3-mile island nuke accident and software automated optimization of the design of space nuclear reactors, sp100 for general electric and jimo for lockheed/martin. uc, berkeley, i thank u!

[@joeching]

dilegentelectron i have to be crazy to change this crazy world we r in: CAN WE REVERT FROM BARBARISM TO CULTURE? In the past three centuries, the Western barbarism of religion, militarism and mob-rule, or democracy, and capitalism has turned the Asian culture of harmony, benevolence, peace and meritocracy upside down. Most conspicuous is the flipping over of Asia's social hierarchy from a meritorous ranking of scholars, farmers, laborers and merchants to the exploitative arrangement of politicians, militarists, preachers, lawyors, doctors, businessmen, techies, hardhats, farmers and scholars. Now harmony has turned into racism. Benevolence has turned into exploitation. Peace replaced by war. And meritocracy into a war-mongering mob gang. Human beings are made into slaves to money, and nations turned into sheeps being herded around by military mights of one superpower, America. Instead of family-centered, we openly focus on economics, but think deep down only of military mights. Kids must study hard. Adults must work hard. And old people become an unwanted burden on society. Why? Because only when economy expands, a nation can build more and better weapons. The Asians are busting their asses trying just to do that. Their goal is to reach parity with America's military strength. But what we really need are only food in our bellies and a roof over our heads. So, the first question the Asians should pose to the Westerners, when Asia catches up to America in military strength , is: "What do you really want?"

[@alfeeman]

Too bad this is not a debate, eric probably can roast the panel. Whenever eric appears he became.center of attention

[@chiadamian]

Watching this, Trump and COVID-19. 24 April 2020

[@Typhoon911]

Andrew, as the moderator, you should stay neutral. You can’t compare the air quality of a tiny island of 23 million to the major hubs in mainland China of 1.3 billion. Your comment also aren’t comparing Taiwan island to the suburban areas of the mainland. And based on that, I am certain you don’t know enough about mainland China well enough to even comment. Shame on you and the organization you represent.

[@thinhare]

The referendum Daniel mentioned in 2014 reminds me about Brexit referendum in 2016, I can't help wondering at this point in 2020 would he still think that referendum is the viable way people choose/evaluate a working political system, despite the face value referendum offers to so-called "legitimacy".

[@GMATveteran]

I'm a fan of Eric X Li, but he certainly wasn't as articulate in this video as he usually is, especially compared to his TED talk. One mistaken conclusion he makes is that in the past 200+ years, the West "succeeded DESPITE democracy". This is fundamental misinterpretation of history. 200 years ago, no western country had a "democracy" as he defined it (& panel members accepted by default); every successful western country that uplifted itself from a developing to a developed country had de facto oligarchies, highly restricted political participation, and a pyramidal social structure. In the past 500 years or so, there is NO example in the world of ANY country (western ones included) advancing from the status of a poor, developing country to that of a rich, developed country under a genuinely democratic system - one that's characterized by universal suffrage, equality, & fair, periodic multiparty elections. Therefore, I would go further than him in saying that the success of the west CANNOT be attributed to democracy - at least not the brand being promoted by western-dominated institutions today.

[@brandontan6199]

200 year. west .they taken out ton n ton of gold from china india asia arab and many city ..steal

[@omegalaw8042]

First, he said it several times “don’t hold me to it, is it possible? Just is it possible” and u accusing him making wrong conclusion lol, it’s not even a conclusion dude. And u just kinda agree his point except the fact that u are the one who is far less articulate and ur argument is just boring and non-original. And u have a funny username, what? u specializing in gmat? Lmao

[@apocalypsepow]

Doesn't he fail to realize communism is also a Western System/Philosophy.

[@kenm3ng121]

I think eric's view is more on every culture fine their own way.

[@hdvoice]

Yeah, Eric is more for a plural world not binary, capitalism vs communism.

[@bobbarkeriii2597]

Berger has some good points here. People do naturally gravitate toward a will to have democracy. After all, almost all countries on earth have the word "Republic" and/or "Democracy" in their official title. Including North Korea and China.

[@hwh1986]

Oh, please don't discuss this issue with facts and data, otherwise it would be convincing that alternative political systems do exist rather than democracy. I am a selfish guy, and I hope the rest of countries get stuck with democracy for another hundred years.

[@phebeewhite1889]

Democracy system at America is at a critical point, with two most controversial candidates, Clinton and Trump. there s no middle ground, you either hate them or love. All I can say is America is doomed with those two people running for president.

[@mattja52]

Whom am I to tell someone how to arrange the furniture in their house, Westerners have no problem with the endeavor. Paternalistically, issuing of their lectures on political, economic, propriety. Whatever problems China has, the people have to correct the problem, not Westerners, it's my house, not yours.

[@omegalaw8042]

“There is No one else left”

[@haijunpeng3848]

The Tsinghua University did become the moderator for a while, that's funny to see.

[@clementtan1981]

It would seem that every system can function so long it is refined "to serve" as it is INTENDED to.

[@joeching]

why we must not have democracy? the most important reason is:"i, u for the same matter, really don't want others to vote for me!" and the most dangerous is that democracy is, by nature, heavily biased toward war, rather than peace.

[@eijikenji7149]

till today, uk dont have a written constitution it do prove to us that political reform is even more difficult for typical parliament democracy and their house of lord are still appointed. and do american people who born in late 1990 had right to reject written USA constitution because such consittution dont represent their wills. - usa fail to seek their approval. can i say that current usa constitutions had no legitimacy. because i only cast my vote for politician, not system. maybe they love to add more right into new constitution?

[@chriszhao7824]

也不知道是谁把democracy翻译成了民主。一失足成千古恨。

[@eijikenji7149]

south korea official commit suicide when they made serious mistake as part of accountability to electoral system. would usa regime embrace such system?

[@joeching]

american political leaders have made all the corruptions and "serious mistakes" by the politicians legal.

[@mattja52]

@@joeching The Teflon effect if you're the right politician, there are those that can be sacrificed to make it look legally correct. If you have any integrity the political atmosphere in America is not the place for you. I wonder, how far Andrew Yang will go before he becomes infected? The corridors of what is called Democracy ( which don't exist ) are not paved with gold.

[@joeching]

@@mattja52 politics is off limit in asia, and we believe, when u use laws to chain humans, the ll make humans savage animals. the 2 pillars of democracy are the democrats' seamless propaganda machine and republicans' democratic war machine. now they are eating america from within. i m trying to split the country in order some of us can survive after the election.

[@joeching]

america's objective is to make its democratized nations commit suicide, instead the messy business of dropping abombs.

[@ravindertalwar553]

Wonderful 💋 Presentation

[@jamescao2008]

YANGON, Burma/Myanmar-With tremendous excitement and hope, millions of citizens voted Sunday in Burma’s historic general election that will test whether the military’s long-standing grip on power can be loosened, with opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi’s party expected to secure an easy victory.

[@maxmadison5488]

But now we know that Aung San Suu Kyi was a USA puppet and USA wanted her in power to oppose the rise of China and "divide and conquer" Asia. As long as USA is around, there will never be peace in the world.

[@banuri7996]

Same thing in Pakistan, under the dictatorship there was less corruption now due to democracy it went through the roof, Also political hiring destroyed the institutions: we used to be a world champions in Squash for 20 years, 4 Hockey world cups, snooker championship, cricket world champion, now all sports are in disarray

[@yanyannyaany]

under king cyrus the great messiah you could vote for democracy, aristocracy or autocracy for your polis depending on the times... you dont get called king of kings for no reason

[@yidingliu7575]

39:35

[@hiihienghui1086]

I rest my case,

[@iamtsean]

"Chiang Ching-kuo....... one of the great Chinese leader of all time" - Andrew Browne What a stupid opinion. The influence of Chingkuo was insignificant to the Han Chinese. Dude had no idea of Chinese History and was a complete disgrace to our great ancestors.

[@Doraemonlam]

Can't help, the Chinese Communist Party is not good at English, and those westerners who claim knowing much about China can barely read Chinese

[@lsh4406]

中共文化大革命才對不起中國人祖先吧！😂

[@jianx20011]

I really hope there are more talks today after Trump

[@rollandzhang33]

The first guy is so naive

[@johnstone3496]

rolland zhang that’s why he teaches

[@eijikenji7149]

Daniel seem cant accept the truth that democracy is worst form of governance. democracy is a just a value like "honesty. hardworking, beautiful" advocating democracy akin to " advocating values of honesty" to misrepresent value of democracy in the typical rigid western framework - an election, one person ,one vote, is a truly a recipe of disaster. as daniel say that they refuse to give up "one person one vote" despite it is truly evil, bad daniel dont realize that " such judgement already prove to us that so called voter are not irrational, not sane in their decision making? for the sake of " demonstrating that we respect people's wills, we actually allow fools to choose our elected leader? fools - there are majority genius - few in number one person one vote - basically allow fools to decide your future.

[@fannyalbi9040]

become westerners r so stuck in ideology, it makes fool of themselves

[@eijikenji7149]

i have one simple question for daniel do American people born after 1960 have right to choose what kind of electoral system for their nation? do american people born after 1960 are forced to acknowledge the previous system as only legitimate system and it applicable to all.? till today, british people dont enjoy universal suffage to elect their own PM they had enjoy democracy for such long time why nobody had asked for one person one vote for their PM? does it meant that political reform had stagnated in parliamentary system?

[@cchk331]

whats the pin on their suits??

[@dawnmoon90]

33:06 interesting thought

[@saneleofmargate8785]

It's a powerful question.

[@sandeepdixit5597]

When you say that American policies were based on views of the top 10% of people, do you mean that American democracy is basically working as a meritocracy? If the US Senate is a millionaire club, is it not a meritocracy?

[@jackoneill28]

Only if you consider making themselves richer and richer as meritocracy.

[@Surstromming22]

Wow that jabba the hut talking out of his arse.

[@VV-ju8xh]

Democracy has become demoCRAZY

[@CarlRoberts-ji8mw]

England is govern by making policies only as a consitutiom changes when desired eccomically ❤❤

[@foxmulderms]

haahhaaa Edwin Feulner's opinions on arab spring and erdogan aged "well"!!!! :)

[@jiacichen]

Prove that titles doesn’t mean shit if you don’t respect the truth.

[@PeterChenFW]

i lhave aa dim view of democracy because the voters cannot b trusted to vote a wise leader/overnment. i m more for china meritocary which put emphasis meritotcracy which put interest of its citizzen..s.....interest

[@leeben7605]

1st speaker very good

[@f.v.h648]

Hahm Chaibong ＋

[@mohmeegaik6686]

Garbage from the last Chinese guy question become a monologue

[@comolaketigerh5112]

The guy who gibbered endlessly nonsense is a Korean, maybe.

[@tuyatang8107]

是麥克風的問題嗎？他最近好像胖了

[@lovegreen4931]

Democracy has it's own beauty!

[@shahanazpervin6596]

No beauty at all it's all hypocrisy

[@lovegreen4931]

@@shahanazpervin6596 I understand that you haven't experienced it's beauty!

[@DMSO7215]

民主是精英政治，

[@avocadotoast4934]

Eric Li missed TSMC

[@ankHank-fs1zr]

USMC

[@anEyePhil]

Look up the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Freedom and Equality are paramount, not exclusive submission to some arbitrary authoritarian communist party. Taiwan's Republic of China now has political freedom and equality, and deserves to maintain it.

[@JamesKaifeiYao]

I think Professor Bell is more reasonable, moderate and logical compared with Mr. Li and another guy.

[@JamesKaifeiYao]

+megakids Who is right then in your opinion?

[@JamesKaifeiYao]

+cad80 24 lol

[@JamesKaifeiYao]

+cad80 24 Mr. Li didn't perform well in this debate. That's a fair assessment. The old guy did even worse. Bell on the other hand, did well.

[@JamesKaifeiYao]

+cad80 24 thanks, my family has already been through one in the 60s and 70s.

[@georges4543]

clearly you haven't learned anything yet.

[@cd7707a]

Eric Li is so confident. 10 years later where is TSMC and China. Such arrogance and short sightedness just 10 years where is he now probably in jail somewhere in China😂

[@ankHank-fs1zr]

USMC... sorry for TSMC

[@fannyalbi9040]

hmmm, which country dictate tsmc to move out of taiwan?

[@jamescao2008]

There is a growing trend among China’s richest to use their wealth to move themselves and their families abroad. This is done primarily in the form of investment visas written in the article: Why China's millionaires are leaving China, msn.

[@sushilover5367]

These millionaires r going to india or Indonesia or another broke ass liberal democratic country? I dont think so.

[@georges4543]

+sushilover imbecile, ass like you will also deny Chinese B/Millionaires go to any liberal democracy country cause it's not good for your ego.

[@heartminer5487]

heard of survivorship bias? have you not seem the vast majority of them who did not move out?

[@joeching]

what china needs is to just go back to the systems that worked in the past. forget about the government system first. just bring back the social hierarchy of "scholars/farmers/laborers(techies)/merchants". then the small issue of electing leaders can be reduced just to betting on merits or genes, the latter being really the cumulative merits from the past and addressing an appropriate reward system to past leaders.

[@zfs816]

Joe Ching i bet u dont live in China. Don't make conclusion just after wandering China in your dream.

[@joeching]

孙正峰 i am a former nuclear engineering prof with uc,berkeley, california, living in berkeley, california. in the aftermath of the tienamen riot in 1989, when america put a sanction on china, i sponsored ur tian-he(then yinghe) supercomputer group to build a mini-supercomputer in berkeley. this group today is the number one supercomputer manufacturer in china. since then, i have found china lost its way, like blaming their benefactor japan for saving the mao's liberation army from chiang kai-shek in the civil war, and helping the chinese airforce in the korea war. r u one of the modern chinese western-barbarian or christian converts? as for me, i m working with the north koreans to liberate asia from america.

[@zfs816]

Joe Ching 1.As a chinese i totally dont agree with your point that China blaming japan for the reason u just said. 2. I dont define me as any kind with stupid terminology. 3. if u are not joking about NK thing, then you are doing wrong lol

[@joeching]

孙正峰 china blaming japan now to woo taiwan by whitewashing chiang kai-shek, who's life long ambition was to exterminate mao, along with him china. but japan ruined it for chiang. am i right on that? what u call stupid terminology is the only thing that will save from being sold out again by its pet dogs of the west, like chiang and wife. i m not joking about north korea, as i m going their in mid oct. and they said the same about me when i saved taiwan from being technically strangled by america, when i bought a computer 5 times larger than the one america refused to issue export license. also the time i tried to salvaged the chinese supercomputer group(the last one survived out of 3, at the time). the leader of the group refused to buy any american supercomputer, and i wont allow them to clone other supercomputer, like they did to cray. and the result is the tianhe-2, world's fastest.

[@troutstalker4744]

What china need is less people like you.

[@reesespeanut4778]

taiwan has one of the best health care systems in the world. wth is Li talking about? there has been a huge migration of SE Asians (not Chinese) to Taiwan in recent years. Tsai is going to encourage more of this type of migration :( i guess more maids and more uneducated people in Taiwan.

[@sushilover5367]

Sometimes, reality is cold heart bitch. Has the western democracy delivered its happy ending? Too short to tell, yes. But from the trajectory tw is heading, its highly unlikely that tw will reach to the other side of paradise. Now, that being said, its only a prediction, folks in tw can still fight for a better future. However, it seems like the effort of adopting the western democracy will be ended up as futile struggle.

[@watson7042]

I've seen many Taiwanese talking about their health care, it seems like they nothing to say but the health care. Is Taiwan really such a backward place so that citizens have nothing to honour but a unsustainable and inefficient centralising managed on the road of being bankrupted system?

[@reesespeanut4778]

Li is biased against taiwan. if taiwanese moved out of taiwan it wasnt because of its political system. it's because the fear of communist china taking over. i had some respect for him, but after what he said about taiwan and his failure to take into account econ theory into the decline of taiwan, his credibility has been cut 50%. also, he forgot to mention that taiwan's political parties have completely different ideologies. blue wants unification and green wants Independence. when you have such a conflicting issue, it is obviously that taiwan's politics will suffer. despite the 1.3 million of taiwanese working on the mainland, these 1.3 million would rather keep their ROC's passport. they will never take on PRC's citizenship. so yeah, i hope his positive views on the ccp is just as fallacious as his collected data on how satisfy are the Chinese with China's current communist regime.

[@stevewong1640]

+Kale Girl If democracy is that good, the problem you said should not be problem.

[@zheng5724]

So, Taiwanese moved out of Taiwan because they are afraid communist might take over, so most of them decided to move to mainland China.

[@litesp]

Sounds like you're too biased for Taiwan that you can't see that he's speaking the truth.

[@orchidoutdoor648]

One prediction is right, haven't been any new big tech company immerce from Tainwan since 2014 until now in 2022. There economy still struggling..

[@adamnelson2958]

This Chinese guy should improve his English speaking!!!!

[@Alantod17]

Adam Nelson he is not a English teacher.

[@moremorecheese]

Why? His English is very good, where are you from?

[@inter3684]

no he speaks well, you better improve your Chinese before criticizing someone for not speaking your shitty English language well. Anglo Saxon Unipolar World order is over.

[@MICgut]

你试试在公开场合用中文和中文母语者辩论。understand? Confused , aren’t you?

[@antonettemonica3502]

His English is good.

[@dadidadida123]

民主制度最大问题就是撕裂社会，无法在争议性议题上选任何一边，失去效率。要知道议题绝大部分都是争议性的，事物总是有好有坏，不可能完美。民主制的问题是，任何问题，两党互相裹挟民意对抗，结果屁事都干不成。 例如美国枪支问题，人人都知道有问题，每年死于枪击3万人，可是就是解决不了。再给美国一百年，你也无法解决。可是如果类似问题出现在中国，一个月就解决了。共产党会全面禁枪，不服就让你入狱。虽然总会有人不满意，可是很快就会有效果。社会发现争论也没用，慢慢也就接受了。 西式民主制度不但在亚洲水土不服，在欧美国家也不行。因为世界上有竞争力更强的体制。如果大家都是民主，民主的低效性不会那么突兀的。但是东亚经济体已经展现了更优秀的一种制度，民主的问题就显露无疑了。 中国的体制当然不完美，但是这种威权体制的优势是，他要改变很容易。如果乡村民主有效，只需要三年，全中国就可以贯彻乡村民主制。只不过现在试验发现乡村民主问题太严重，有南美洲那种黑道化的趋势，所以这种体制目前不能推广。 在中国历史上有很长的“改土归流”历史。如果地方过于民主化，又会回到土司政治。

[@mqhu2857]

My apologies, but it is on nowhere I saw he is supporting Bin Laden in the text. He is simply speaking truth and mentioned the reason WHY Bin Laden ATTACKED the US. He is NOT saying what Bin Laden did is right. Actually I believe everyone in the Civilized world will say what Bin Laden did to the US is evil. Nothing to talk about here. The true problem is, you DID NOT UNDERSTAND HIS ARGUMENT, that the decision you AMERICAN PEOPLE made by your democratic system gives Bin Laden a reason to attack the United States, a reason which at least Bin Laden think such a reason is reasonable to him and his followers. Well not convincing to me but yes to him and his follows.

[@qiangwang689]

Mq Hu 如果比较一下本拉登做的与美国人对伊拉克人民做的，我并不觉得本拉登做的更过分。只是话语权被美国人掌握了。我当然不支持本拉登，如果他胆敢在中国搞事情，像东突厥在新疆做的，导弹马上飞过去。人类就是这样，冤冤相报何时了。