Ash Pournouri talks True Stories, Avicii's passing, seeing Tim for the last time [Part 2, July 2021]

[@robertmoog3]

I don't blame Ash for wanting to help a very talented kid achieve his dreams, I blame him for not eventually realizing that Tim was never meant to be a pop star.

[@Ivanfeeling]

And after all Tim was one of the best to ever do it, sometimes life is so strange in many ways for artists like him.

[@robertmoog3]

@@Ivanfeeling couldn't agree more. A very unique soul and an even more unique situation

[@theviewer6321]

Guys stop pretending to know avicii …nobody from us really met him or knew who he was … to judge ash is so wrong … we don’t have a clue what the true stories are …

[@robertmoog3]

@theviewer6321 he was the guy's manager. I know you're actually as uninformed as your making me out to be, but as his manager, he had a fiduciary duty to serve Tim's best interests, and he did not. It's not parasocial to wish that your favorite artist was still alive, and I'm not speculating. This is what the closest people to Tim all said too. It's literally why Ash agreed to do this video.

[@scottstorchfan]

@@robertmoog3my friend, Tim had a bad drug problem. It’s not Ash’s responsibility.

[@Perqd]

Anxiety/Depression and drug addiction is a lonely road. He had alot of anxiety which he used alcohol for. Neither Tim nor his managers are to blame. Sometimes in life people turn to solutions that a radical. We don't need someone to put the blame on. We need solutions for people like avicii, those who struggle. Avicii was talanted and besides his mental problems he somehow performed on an level most never reach. Rest in peace. I feel your pain.

[@manuman84]

If you read the book it becomes way more clear what their relationship was like

[@LightningSword13]

I have the book just sitting on my desk waiting for me to finish reading my college books for the semester lol

[@itstvro]

@@LightningSword13 me too lol

[@queen_strawberries]

After years of going through the motions of Tim's passing, I don't wanna necessarily villainize Ash, however it's important to acknowledge his irresponsibility as a manager when it comes to treating a young artist, Tim was 18 when he got signed and really only ever wanted to create the music he wanted to make, and ultimately the goal of every manager is to respect their artist and give them the space to grow in their artistry, however when it comes to an artist as young as Tim was at the time he got started, it's quintessential for a manager to be able to guide an inexperienced artist through the right path to be able to take correct decisions for their mental health to not get to a point of burnout and eventually the overwhelming emotions of rising to fame And that's precisely where Ash went wrong, as early as 2012, he simply wasn't able to guide Tim properly and his inexperience evolved into his mental health struggles, not to say Tim didn't play a part in overworking himself, however we shouldn't be blaming the victim for his inexperience and simply not understanding the path he was going down because his manager never took care of him that way, however that's not to say there wasn't a connection at all between them, I imagine his breakup with him in December 2016 must've had a profound emotional effect on him too, however by that point it was already too late, even if Ash had somehow reached out to Tim in his final moments, he was already too far gone, and he himself probably held some feelings of resentment himself as shown on True Stories and lyrics on TIM like Excuse Me Mr Sir. So while yes, I don't think it helps to villainize either side, it's fair to say Ash should've known much better while he had the chance because it was his irresponsibility that ultimately lead to one of the greatest artists of our generation to spiral into darkness.

[@antiamartinez7467]

Just saw this contemplation, and I couldn't agree more. Even though we are fans, we should not villianize anyone directly. This is a complex story.

[@themattbookpro2266]

Very much so a complex story, which is why we can’t make assumptions at all. We weren’t there, and neither were they when Tim passed. So we all can’t point to anything

[@06Vfr800]

Well Said. Ash Was Instrumental In Both putting Avicii On the world Stage, and Also instrumental in pushing him to do Gig after Gig After Gig. Great Guy,but: Irresponsible.It excaccerbated Tim's Anxiety. Period.

[@a7xfanben]

Thanks for making this available!

[@Deviitt11]

Thank you for posting this!

[@ketapan420x]

Not sure what to think about this. He seems like a well spoken, smart and likable guy but it doesn't tell us anything. He was like a father and brother to him yet he has NO clue why he committed suicide? They had a conflict that led to them part ways and no single word about why? They met up and Tim suddenly left? Apparently there also seems to be no relevant person who likes Ash enough to speak up for him, including Tim's father and other people who would be immune to criticism. Weird. That being said I don't think blaming a single person is the right thing to do and Ash for sure didn't want this to happen and I bet it hit him hard af. If there's someone to blame it's our money and status driven society that makes sensitive and "weak" people feel like they don't belong on this world.

[@theoneandonlybright6145]

True! The interviewer should've asked more questions... I feel the same, some topics were interesting as the conflict one or where he left. That is so weird!

[@JoshNunnyt]

@@theoneandonlybright6145 He did break up with his girlfriend around the same timeframe he met Ash. Maybe she kept trying to come after him for money with her baby. She did literally post about going around his house after his death and having her period blood on his sheets. She then disappeared from social media after being planned for it and never came back, very werid.

[@noah2765]

@@JoshNunnyt Where tf did you read the period blood shit, that ain't real unless you send proof. “The day you died, I went to your house to feel you around me. I lay under your shower for ages and when I came out and turned into the bedroom, you weren’t waiting for me.” “I took all your sheets and pillows and comforter and even the mattress cover home, so that I could sleep in them, surrounded by the smell of you.” That's everything Tereza wrote about his house & bed. Source: express.co.uk

[@jonathanscott7412]

true words!

[@draoicht22]

Looks like he's playing the victim card to get public sympathy. He's switching roles here with Aviici who was the real victim of the music industry that made this guy his livelihood

[@ezgi-wd5bz]

We cant blame only one person. Avicii was someone who took things to a great extent-maybe too far even. He had a truely dedicated personality that made him the giant as he is. But its just the truth that he was truly overworked and of course this guy has also a part in it. Its sad

[@KingWillGK]

The documentary portrayed him as a villain, but after reading the book, Ash is not to blame in my opinion. Tim was the one who overworked himself.

[@JoshNunnyt]

Yes don't forgot the guy was worth around 45 million £ at the time he quit touring he could've quit earlier but didn't. There is an element of people having to help themselves before they can be helped.

[@Geshtafshnifka]

And why was he overworking himself? All we know for sure is he made the decision to end his life, nothing before that is definite and certain

[@ZelenoJabko]

Arash PORNouri

[@thecaffineman]

What book?

[@AKAESE1337]

​@@thecaffinemanThe biography of Avicii "Tim"

[@Boxer4ever]

I don’t know this, I don’t know that. You should know that no one can do 300 gigs per year!!!! Wanker

[@LightningSword13]

Even these days he continues to get tons of hate on any obscure social media he has. This is super sad.

[@craigspokes6568]

Yeh because he drove Tim to breaking point. Tim was a young man and he took advantage of it all. Same as many other managers, Elvis was the same, says it all in true stories.

[@AB0W]

@@craigspokes6568 bro did you even watch this video lmao

[@AlarmingBlueThunder]

@@craigspokes6568 holy shit people still looking for someone to blame my god

[@parisss01]

@@craigspokes6568 not at all, its not just 1 person who took the wrong way, for example, avicii never wanted to fuck up his carreer so obviously he knew how important gigs are, he clearly was workaholic and had horrible habits but still pushed everything to maintain his relevance as an artist, also, he never was forced to keep doing what he was doing, he could have just left the dj life way before he did, but everyone knows gigs are crucial for artists to stay relevant

[@craigspokes6568]

I don’t really care what anyone says. This video is just Ash talking, Tim never wrote his book, body language in true stories and Tim arguing on the phone to no more shows. Tim was a young man and yes his manager took advantage of it all, his Dad Klas said it his manager has things to answer for. Yes he had addiction to perfection of his music in the studio, not a addiction to DJing and flying all around the world 247 the amount of shows he done was unreal. Addicted to making music that was it. At the end of true stories it says Tim and Ash has since parted ways. It’s in history and the music industry’s is just full of bastards money hungry sharks. You will never know what happened to Tim if it was suicide or murder, there’s no doubt Tim and Ash were mates as the years went on but at the end he wanted out it’s as simple as that. He’s at peace now in let’s respect that but don’t forget he said many times. I am going to die you can see he was unwell in hospital and Ash is trying to get him going. So take it or don’t I know exactly what Ash was and is “Tim does not know the value of money” exactly money, not health or mental health MONEY!!!

[@fs3025]

I think too much of the finger has been pointed at Ash, but no one has ever asked how much damage the pharmaceutical industry may have done by leading people to have serious addictions... And part of the blame also goes to our modern society, the cause of some burdens that are difficult to bear... Read that book

[@Echolightr]

Maybe Ash isn’t all that bad a guy, but he was irresponsible as a manager to an 18yo rising superstar

[@TrumpetGuy26]

exactly. It wasn't really just his fault, but he barely helped him

[@hulderfiskruttdrnnet8090]

It’s shocking to hear Avicii’s manager dodge responsibility in the interview. Avicii clearly voiced his exhaustion and desire to quit, yet he was pushed to continue. The manager’s refusal to own up to his role in this tragedy is both irresponsible and disgraceful. This lack of accountability is a glaring example of how the industry prioritizes profits over artist well-being.

[@BLCKVD]

Exactly, I see him as greedy moneywhore subhuman, like Avicii clearly hints in his ''Lord'' song: ''I looked for fire but found nothing but Ash''...

[@ramihabchi8938]

the truth lies in tempered reality, I don't think it is reasonable to put all the blame and end the career life of this manager without letting him defend himself.there are too many factors contributing to his death, one of them is hard working, but there are many other factors like his mental health sensibility from a young age, giving all what he have and future for this career and having to quite all of that.If the problem was the manager he would change it, AVICCII was an adult, we cannot put the whole blame on one person

[@simontonkin6493]

It was something he was carrying inside that no one knew about. He justified himself by the perfection of what he did. Perfection is a condemning taskmaster for whom you can never be good enough. He never found a wide enough worldview to be able to crawl out of justifying himself by his actions, and into being justified by the love of a perfectly relational god.

[@ladyhuaman6679]

Sr Ash no digo que ud tenga la culpa de la muerte de Tim pero ud saco provecho de esa joya preciosa aquel niño dulce humilde con una personalidad muy especial que nadie pudo notar eso

[@Venomscarf]

You should be held accountable just like P. Diddy… working him to the bone and milking him… karma will make you pay for what you did

[@katherinehwang4820]

Someone is make him suicide because of hurt and upset him, it is NOT really fair to Tim, poor Tim, he is such a good person and end up suffer like this, media and music bussiness, it is so bad, if the true story reveal out and it is make all his fan angry as well!

[@gabriellehambleton-yc3ky]

The people who pushed Avicii beyond his coping ability, who kept on asking and expecting him to give, give, give, the people who made him wade through live shows, do even phone interviews instead of caring for him when he was sick, they are the people responsible for his death.

[@justinshaun6557]

A part of me don't want to blame him for the death but there is also a question on why everything went wrong with him and Avicii...if ash was good , why would they part ways with each other....

[@joergen5904]

Read the avicii biography

[@aseandersson5483]

Ash is right. The documentary was a movie. You could really notice how difficult it was for Ash to talk about how Tim died. So sad. I have never blamed Ash. He was not Tims manager 2018, so how could people blame him. Its like Ash say here. People wanted to see blood.

[@willywalter6366]

This guy should just confess that he just couldn‘t handle a genius mind well enough - who is naturally most of the time on the edge and near craziness - and escp. at this young age - they both were unaware of the longterm effects on their bad choices. Sometimes people think they are very clever before they realize later on they were too clever. RIP Avicii 😢 (no money in the world was worth this but this is how most of our world works 🤑🤮)

[@mercyawinja2065]

Someone who is keen enough .there is a point Tim said this is just like a dream im not getting enough ,he was struggling with anxiety, he wanted to be the best ,fame to him came at a young age he also said don't remember me by the money I made but the life I lived the impact my music made to different people in the world. "How can Tim protray Ash as father, brother and a friend if he was unfair to him ??yes people get into misunderstanding and conflict its not the first time for artist and producers . Avicii was young promising and a great guy but life had a different turn on him

[@pavankumar-cj7rj]

😭😭😭feels sad

[@emil95945288]

17:22 He had a new manager then right.. yeah, but I don't know (let's not talk about that 🤔)

[@draoicht22]

Yes it's like Kurt Cobain and countless others ( Whitney Houston, MJ, Cris Cornell, Chester Bennington etc. etc. )- they get rid of them so the music company ( or remaining family members - if they are as evil & working with the music company execs) control the music/ art they created

[@ladyhuaman6679]

Sr Ash ud dice que lo siente mucho la partida de Tim pero ud lo conocio en vida fue una persona sercana ha el y no pudo hacer nada por el ud dejo que la montaña rusa siga ha toda velocidad

[@corivian]

Wow thanks so much for sharing this, i feel bad for ash and i agree with everyone he said, very heavy

[@temesiadam]

How can everyone say “they have no clue” why he killed himself? Obviously I didn’t know him, but just watching him and having some sympathy and understanding for how people work, it’s clear, literally couldn’t be clearer, that he suffered from severeee anxiety. I know just how it feels even though it’s not because of the same reasons. And waking up with that feeling everyday, never leaving you, can make you genuinely hate life and just want out. Not saying that’s the reason, since he started to feel better right after retiring from touring, but why tf is nobody talking about it?

[@katherinehwang4820]

This is fucking sad after I am watch this video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@draoicht22]

This is a bs documentary! If you are trying to uncover the wool from people's eyes why don't you talk about the genesis of the song " For Better day " and what he was saying in that music video??

[@mehzaddhrubo9006]

Please stop this stupid speculation out of respect for him.

[@oneofthelastsurvivingdoges8832]

@@mehzaddhrubo9006 We also need to respect the thousands of children that go missing each year...

[@Axel.97]

This interview changed my view on Arash. I used to think that he was all of those things that are mentioned in the interview. To know now how much Arash ment to Tim changes everything. Someone that ment so much to Tim would never have done anything to hurt Tim. So Arash if you ever see this I just want to apologise to you.

[@scottstorchfan]

You seem to be easilly swayed.

[@ladyhuaman6679]

A todo esto nuestro amado Tim ya no esta aqui en este mundo cruel en el cual Tim no se sentia bien pasaban los años el se hacia mas adulto

[@Ashallmusica]

He needs to be apologized for what he did, Putting him under Intense pressure

[@ZelenoJabko]

Arash PORNouri

[@Axel.97]

@@ZelenoJabkoshut up please

[@AnonymousAnonymous-td2oj]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@blastbottles]

Him and avicii were under good terms before his passing. Read the tim biography

[@ladyhuaman6679]

Nuestro amado Tim fue un genio el era un ser muy sensible demasiado en su corta vida analizo este mundo puso en una balanza lo bueno y lo malo y los resultados no eran nada posetivos para el para los demas seres

[@r2rlvj684]

I love Tim, and probably we will never know the things Ash and his family and friends know, but I think Ash is not who "killed" Tim... I believe Tim was so deep in his topics and his things that probably no one could've taken him out of it, particularly knowing that Ash was out of Tim's life for the last 2 years before his passing... It still hurts though... Even nowadays 💔💔

[@arlyng7171]

I loved Tim, I wished I could have done something for him even though I live in another continent and at the time he died I barely knew something about him. I could believe he committed suicide, I thought he was killed and now I think it may be true. I miss him so bad.

[@maria-melek]

What might be true?

[@wahlocki]

Two years is a long time passed to blame someone for a suicide. I feel sorry for Ash.

[@springbreezeaftertherain]

Why is no one talking about that Tim was killed by influential people in the industry? I don’t believe in suicide

[@draoicht22]

Yes, at least that's a a very plausible scenario... He "broke his contract" and then released "For a better day"

[@bintheb0x]

Because he had mental health issues, and we need to adress that and recognize suicide as a global health emergency, rather than trying to convince ourselves he didn't make that choice. It was very clear how much he struggled and he was absolutely open about it for years, even his dad who knows his son better than anyone knows how hard he steuggled and recognizes that Tim took his life. Mental health it's a real thing and we need to remove the stigma around it.

[@SHOCMUSIC]

I don't think it's fair that all the comments pretend to know he is responsible for Avicii's death. In the end, no one, maybe not even his family knows why he killed himself. He was surely overworked (and Ash definitely played a part in that), and I think it was irresponsible to let him touring for so long and so often, especially for such a young guy. But he was also a very introverted person and had a massive drug problem. I don't think Avicii would have wanted us to blame his death on anyone, don't you guys?

[@BabyMouse-i1u]

He kills Tim

[@licenselessj-dawg167]

*killed

[@Balkany888]

Ash - 👎

[@Agge1914]

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[@ZelenoJabko]

Arash PORNouri

[@AnonymousAnonymous-td2oj]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Nathanator]

lmao

[@just_dimi3]

Trash Pornouri

[@Balkany888]

I don't believe in Tim's suicide. This is murder.

[@AnonymousAnonymous-td2oj]

A Pedophile ring he exposed 3 years before he was murdered for a better day.

[@Agge1914]

@@AnonymousAnonymous-td2oj you are such a fu7king mislead weirdo who clearly needs help. Read the Tim Biography.

[@scottstorchfan]

Are you stupid?

[@larsahebe2614]

Ash, his blood is on your hands

[@viktor.h]

Partially, yes. But also all his so called ''friends'' and ''entourage'' who pushed him.

[@joergen5904]

Read Tim’s biography. Then come back here, you will delete that comment

[@Agge1914]

read the tim biography you clown

[@Aurélie-m8i]

Devil ! 😡