Ashes of Creation has a MAJOR Problem

[@sawmanUK]

Thanks for watching, like if you want to see more AOC content from myself...

[@oldmanbanjo]

You gotta prep the algorithm for more videos when the whole thing....burns to ashes ;)

[@CestPasFaux-kt9zq]

Stupid youtubeur like nyce, valdhus etc.. Will probably react and laugh And finally make apologies 😂

[@sawmanUK]

@@oldmanbanjo Might talk about how the grass isnt green enough

[@mnemonix1315]

no pvp game will ever have a too popular problem XD and AOC was inspired by arch age. js.

[@blktauna]

which will clome out first, Ashes or TES6?

[@Nyce-Gaming]

6:40 Sawman paid me to say this. Or used AI. Or forced me to. PK him on sight please.

[@sawmanUK]

Niece gaming exposed again

[@spotzhopz]

Exposed/ he can't keep getting away with it

[@UnknownUsername131]

Stream sniping should really start being treated as a "You knew the risks when you took the job" deal. It's no one else's responsibility to protect them except for them. Want to play Warzone, but stream sniping ruins your fun? Play it on your off time. It's very rare someone gets their perfect fantasy reflected in the real world. Deal with it like the rest of us. You're not special because you bought a Yeti at Bestbuy. To your point about the demonstration being buggy. How many games have shown curated videos? How good does it go when they have the typical launch issues? Showing a perfect situation while it's in Alpha sets the expectation that it will only get more and more stable and wonderful. Which immediately explodes when the servers crash on launch day.

[@sawmanUK]

As someone whos been stream sniped, its annoying, but there should be tools to help... tools.. not reworks lol I'll be interested to see how they deal with this. Also.. i have a yeti.. Games having bugs is always going to be a factor, but I guess it depends on how head on they deal with them. I would rather they be acknowledged and talked about then ignored. I just want to see them do a real live stream , in game, not scripted. The pvp caravan would of been the perfect opportunity. Like just do a ffa at the end to demonstrate it properly working.

[@TheRealManOfSteel]

Exactly. Don't publicize your exploits if you don't want it to be taken advantage of.

[@Wild_Cat]

Ashes of Copium

[@oldmanbanjo]

Spot on about the streamer problem. The biggest problem with the streamer hype is that it spikes the population. Crashes the server, and then when they move back on to the next game the streamer plays. Imagine how bad it's going to be to be on Asmongold or Soda's server at launch? It's basically huge artificial swings the devs can't prepare for.

[@sawmanUK]

Well New World has this exact problem, especially when streamers announced which server they were going on, in advance. It's a strange balance to get right between the devs and the content creator space.

[@oldmanbanjo]

@@sawmanUK Yeah, and then take that and apply to the PvEX stuff in AoC. Omg it's going to be hell on earth. The ASMON swarm will devour the earth.

[@ryuno2097]

yyeap. What ever happen to games growing it's playerbase organically.

[@andyh4747]

The problem with streamers is there selfish greed, only thinking how the game mechanics will affect the games streamability.

[@freezax4]

Tell me you didn’t pay attention without paying attention lol they already addressed this problem.

[@LH_Vagrant]

The alpha should launch with a gigantic message saying "this is an ALPHA TEST. Your experience is expected to SUCK. Deal with it." and add half a dozen confirmation pop-ups. "Yes, I realise this is only a test iteration." "I know this is a work in progress." "I am aware that I will encounter millions of bugs." "I agree to have a disappointing experience." "I understand that this is not representative of the final product."

[@Raykkie]

It's probably controversial, but I think PvP MMOs aren't sustainable. Or at least under traditional MMO formats. PvP may be fun but it bleed players very quickly, whereas PvE content can achieve more stable results. New World didn't fall because it switched to PvE, it cushioned its fall thanks to PvE.

[@Lucifar08]

The MMO gaming fans just want a pretty decent online game with longevity, so many releases have crashed and burned, New world was such a hyped release, my friends and I were excited, within 48 hours we could see the flaws and issues and we left pretty quick, we worry the gaming industry see's this Genre as dead because players don't stay, but they leave due to lack of content, poor decisions or trash games. Simply bring out a decent mmo and make good coin, AoC looks promising but then so did the many others that died fast. It's sad but so many of us are playing mmo's still that were released 6-10+ yrs ago

[@sawmanUK]

I will say this about New World, they did a great job of generating hype and I really did enjoy the first week... but there was so much wrong with it that could of been sorted if it had delayed the release.

[@MiCKEYDiAMONDSS]

MMOs are a money sink and take way too long to develop and maintain. A great, big budget and new gen MMO is honestly a dead idea. It’s not profitable without PTW

[@unityman3133]

@@MiCKEYDiAMONDSS wrong it is profitable but ptw is more profitable. Thats why it is important to be off the stock market and have a lead that selfishly wants a good game/his game. Chris roberts is a good example. He has fucked over the development of his game because he wants it exactly how he envisioned it. He is not driven by profit but by having HIS dream realized.

[@variouselite]

@@unityman3133 p2w is only more profitable short term. it drives off your main audience. if you keep the main players interested, ie not making the game for the p2w simps and whales, the game will do better long term. part of the problem is most large studios are driven by fast profit/returns to investors/etc

[@thebombcat]

I'm waiting for the sequel - Ashes of Lactation - and it's follow-up - Ashes of Granuloma...I always play the last one first so I can hate it before it exists. Great video, your voice is fine...you sound like a dry napkin, and those are my favorite type.

[@samantha8701]

Never seen a mmorpg properly balance pve & pvp, always end up heavily catering to pve in the end with the pvp content barely making up 10% of the actual games. I believe its possible most people stop pvp because the balance is non existent & the little content we get feel like old scraps compared to the rest of the games. Think more people would enjoy pvp if done correctly & maintained.

[@sawmanUK]

100% this.

[@7F0X7]

How am I supposed to enjoy a zerg fest? They suck when I'm on the majority side and on the minority side, there's no more tension, you *know* which side is going to win. If there's no meaningful anti-zerg mechanics, then why should I bother with pvp?

[@dosmatrix4470]

This video is Oustanding. The Narc morphing into Asmon bit was Gold.

[@isth3reno1else]

British content creators 🤝 Being a brand risk

[@sawmanUK]

😹😹😹😹😹😹😹

[@demonovMX]

narc on streams in a complete degenarate toxic

[@Azrial]

Could not agree more with what you said here its bang on, i think expectations needs dropped, people need to chill and not get so but hurt when Ashes is criticised as long as there making valid points and alpha 2 will take at least two years, its gonna be a long process with shit loads of bugs and server issues, but that's a testing phase, and as for pve servers would never work.

[@iconx4213]

wow killer term is already dead reason ffxiv already killed it :)

[@bminturn]

I feel personally attacked by the old lady with the walker. But I'm not a boomer. I'm gen x. And it was 37 hot keys 🤣

[@Itory1337]

Experience has shown that the proportion of PVP players has always been significantly lower than the proportion of PVE players over the years. Josh Strife Hayes, among others, has been able to prove this accordingly. PVP is not casual gaming and casual gaming is what makes money. And even the most altruistic development team needs money if it wants to be able to develop content tomorrow. If the PVx spark doesn't ignite and both sides don't complement each other in such a way that you can feed off the content in the long term, you will basically develop something that will end up in the garbage can in the medium term or never come out of beta. The PVE players will jump ship and the PVP players will have their island of bliss, but will starve there. It wouldn't be the first game to end like this. And it surely won't be the last.

[@Robert21211]

Their concept of consensual pvp is great imo. I hope they go through woth the corruption system that has severe punishment for griefing or killing open world players that don't want to pvp. I remember playing darkfall, and new player town's used to have powerful players almost permanently camping to grief new players who join...of course your games dead if you do nothing about that

[@TheLeastNegativeBasedWokie]

@@Robert21211 Haven't seen anyone mention Darkfall in forever. Fun times.

[@packatk7431]

9:00 I play Pantheon Rise of the Fallen as a tester and in this day and age of early access games it is sometimes hard for me to remember that I am in a test environment and I need to treat it as such. I'm not there to play or grind levels (I mean that's part of it), I'm there to find bugs and pass that information on to the bug squashers. I think a lot of the "play testers" forget its a test environment, none of it is permanent or guaranteed.

[@gndmofall]

This game is as real as my love life.

[@sawmanUK]

Adrian

[@SetariM]

Nonexistent? Lmao.

[@variouselite]

@@SetariM thats the joke. sigh.

[@bamjo9]

Thank you for the video. I agree with all that you said. My major issue with AoC is that it is set up to be (by their audience) as a WoW clone, as it would have to be WoW 2. I feel that now Intrepid is too afraid to innovate. And personally I think that the classes (as they are now) are really bad, and also the mana system is terrible.

[@dannefan_senshi]

The record holding game for most concurrent players in one instance is Eve online, 6000 players, with Heavy 10% time dilation (servers ran at 10% of realtime), Its also a good example of a successful PvX game, where the moment you log in, you consent to pvp. started at the same time as WoW. If AoC stays true to this PvP idea they might very well be successful.

[@Hamburglar009]

I see sawman, I click watch and Like 👍

[@sawmanUK]

It’s all I ask for 🥹❤️

[@Jhackus]

And enjoy the sarcastic jokes 😂 (e.g. The biggest AoC content creator.....roflmao TWICE!!! )

[@tonydalimata]

Guilty also

[@TheHadMatters]

The problem with the "I don't like fetch quest" opinion is that it expects multiplayer games to be able to do more than they can do. You will never be able to make everyone the hero of the story, so you can't have a world where you both feel like a part of the community around you, but at the same time no one has to do menial tasks. If you try that, you end up with a game that everyone plays to clear the main story for 3 months, and after that there's nothing interesting to do. Even if they keep adding to the main story, it'll still feel fake that everyone around you is going through the same epic, or even just emotionally captivating experience as you. The fun comes from the community writing its own stories, and players recognising other players for being there when they needed them, or performing excellently at something.

[@Klaudiuszeg]

Ashes of Creation is THE BIGGEST mmorpg cope i have EVER seen EVER. Wildstar had infinitely more potential than this, and it closed

[@svaribattleborn6656]

Personally for me this game is a hard pass, I simply don't care at all about forced PvP. This game will be the next New World, hugely popular the first two months and then it dies quickly as people start to realize this game is just more of the same and get bored with it. Plus I can't name one PvP focussed MMORPG that does well long term.

[@NeonKix]

I think streamers generally ruin games, though we still crave watching them. It's an imperfect system. I don't think games should be in any way, tailored for streamers.

[@jeremyn4397]

I couldn't agree more with Jimmy's fetch quest take... In the first MMO I played back in 2006, RagnarokOnline, there originally were no quests. You simply had a world with monsters that dropped certain items and some npc to trade with. You didn't level by following a pre-planned story or path through the world. You could adventure off to a high level area at low level and develop some cheeky strategy with friends to kill things way stronger than you (and it be worth it), or you could mindlessly grind low level mobs for levels. The developers didn't tell you how to play. I want to see that again in MMO's.

[@Suzuki_Hiakura]

Both star citizen and helldivers are prime examples in server backend development that increase the functional server cap... it's my hope that we can one day get an mmo as big as all of tamriel, and a server cap of over 8k at least. Unless AoC try to roll out server que slots, of say 1-2k, then I feel the alpha keys are simply going to tank the game before it is fully released... that's before the actual hype drop down. There's an actual term for the graph demonstrating people hyping a thing well past what it is, and the sudden drop leading to underwhelming reactions; I remember some studio stating they didnt want their game over hyped for this reason, while I was still in high school.

[@neugassh3570]

Perfect examples...a barely playable scam and a 4 player coop :D

[@sawmanUK]

What star citizen is trying to do is impressive, but at the same time, it still feels like instances on a server. Pax Dei has a similar setup with their world map. AOC has already come out and said that some dungeons and pvp events will be instanced, which means its not a true 8k people on a server. If they have the technology to have that many people, then great, i look forward to it...i just don't think its there yet. Fingers crossed though.

[@PhurPher]

@@sawmanUK Agreed. The limiting factor is a little bit netcode, but a lot what a single server can produce in terms of computing power. Online games require too high of response time, so they can't use more than one physical server for one game server. Computers literally aren't built to work in tandem through an ethernet/fiber cable lol. They can and they do for lots of things, but online games just require too high response time. And the tech only exists to for so many processors to work in tandem on one board. I think there exists a 32 socket(cpu) server board, but there's a literal cap to how big game servers can be. At least for now. This is why Star Citizen devs are working on server meshing where essentially one game world is broken up into cubes which are technically all different servers, but can communicate with each other when something crosses over from one to the other. It's not fully working right now, but they've made huge strides and have it partially working. It's honestly super impressive.

[@philwaugh9095]

ROFL this is some of the dumbest shiz I've seen a while, and I watch Biden "speak". Nice troll 🤣

[@RozeMMO]

How dare you have an opinion on the internet.

[@wildejagd]

Even Arthur, King of the Britons, had to do fetch quests: shrubbery

[@Ryotsu2112]

King of the who?

[@JugsMcNasty]

Got an Eso flashbash from this 😅 remember when it first came out, advertising the grand 200+ player epic Cyrodil battles. Then just lioe almost every other game, they forget about their pvp player base and focus solely on pve whales. Pvp is the passion, pve is the money

[@Strangingness]

straight facts in this one

[@Stoneforge1501]

This entire drama around an alpha test just proves how starved mmo fans are for an actually good game. One with meaning that can be your forever game because it is meaningful and deserves it, and not because you compromise and just settle for whatever isn't even close to what you wish it was.

[@royalau3823]

AOC's biggest problem though is the game is never going to release 💀

[@mikebelcher7244]

There is absolutely no problem with having a game PVE, PVP, or mixed...as long as you're upfront about that focus and are willing to accept what comes with each type of gameplay. THAT'S the rub. PVP will draw a type of player base as will the other focuses. Streamers will absolutely get griefed and wrecked...which will attract some people, and turn others off. The very clear example of "make your bed and lie in it". Making a PVE server for a PVX game specifically to provide a safe environment for streamers is an indictment against your play system design.

[@JSON_bourne]

Dark and darker devs need to see this. Especialy the section about changing the game away from PVP for loud pve players

[@wiiagent]

Wow really good points and video! Subscribed!

[@Papakakadu]

Why should any game cater to streamer situations? Streaming is optional, you wanna stream and make some bucks you are at risk of stream sniping. Nothing should be catered to that issue…

[@xX.D3DP00L_Xx]

I hope it releases, it sounds like a fantastic game, but I'll remain skeptical until it does. When it has a beta I'll begin to take interest. Good video sawman

[@ofuscado420]

I have a job and kids to worry about, so I'll start paying more attention when a release date is announced

[@PhantomGanhdi]

Just to comment on the New World part with server issues. Yes, New World might be created by Amazon that also has AWS, but that doesn't mean the engineers working on New World are experts with AWS or anything. Also, we'd have to look at the engineers working on New World and their experience with networking for video games. Notes - Amazon hires L4 Software Development Engineers (SDEs), mostly through university Hire for new college grads. So, if a L4 SDE was working on the server code of New World they may have little to no prior experience doing something similar - SDEs at Amazon can basically transfer to any team. So, you could have more experienced SDEs on the New World team but they don't have much experience with networking for multiplayer games - Just because you work at Amazon doesn't mean you have a good understanding of how to use AWS for your application

[@HungarianWarHorse]

Idk its got a good team behind it and it looks fun. Good enough for me

[@SwordKingsTV]

Dont worry I got told to unalive myself for predicting bless unleashed second death. BDO is on the way to the forever box as we speak LOL

[@lometogo3290]

these are all accurate problems with AOC, 100%. agree

[@magnusgrel]

Remember when BETA tests were free...🤔

[@Z-MACx]

In almost every MMO, there’s one type of quest that is notoriously HATED by communities… escort quests. Ironically, AoC decided to design their peak PvP content around, you guessed it, ESCORT QUESTS. That shit is just hilarious to me.

[@blktauna]

inorite, when the guys here were all over it in excitement I'm kike ugh no I have doing that...

[@Idiotboxxx]

I look at it as an open ended Payload event , not so much an escort (I get it is, but it's a little diff)

[@blktauna]

@@Idiotboxxx come on, its escorting.

[@barrywhite1770]

Actually I think their plan is great. Alpha 2 will steady the hype to realistic expectations by the time launch hits.

[@sergiocamejo9450]

Server meshing

[@UnfadingSilence]

That game wont come out for atleast 5 more years at best

[@jadynjaded]

Who gives a F*&^ about streamers

[@mynameisforrest]

Exactly. And except for a couple of the biggest of them, streamers are going to get bent. There is a reason people really can't stream and show location/intel in EvE. If you die you actually lose stuff, and also adventuring you and your allies operations. People are underestimating the desire for people to hunt streamers down and corpse camp them

[@BoundlessBoredom]

AoC only has a problem if they release and it isn't good. If it's good, nothing else matters.

[@jacobhoffman2553]

nope..... not touching it.... games are bad because you give the devs all the money for the game before it is finished.... once they got most the money there no reason to do anything else and its time to start a new project.... you realy are the problem... one game might break the trend but i also might win the lottery.... good luck with that hope and wish plan

[@benjamineer3045]

Time will tell, but I think the idea of pvp focused MMO has problems. I like pvp and in all the mmos have played it became what I spent the most time on, but I don't like when pvp and pve mix. When I pve I don't want to worry about the next ganker targeting me and I think i am not alone. In every title I played mixed zones tended to be deserted. I think it is easy in abstract to think that you want pvx but once the reality hits people seem to give it up rather quickly. I will give the game a go when it comes out, but past experience has taught me something.... never play a new MMO at launch

[@minorishimizu4241]

when this game come out in 2027, it's already outdated in term of gameplay, graphic, over 50+ other MMORPG with better graphic, gameplay, skill, animation, PVP, class identity... to be honest, the current art style looks worse than ESO which came out 10 years ago skill is pretty generic and basic, some random firebolt, spin sword, random purple purple magic shot, ice AOE..... yeah yeah but other games have it 10 years ago. animation feels very clunky like student project. doesn't seem run at 120 fps, it's 2024, is this really a true competitor with other "free to play MMORPG" even?

[@Ryotsu2112]

My issue is that AoC looks devoid of any personality. The characters have no unique artistic styling. WoW has a unique (awful looking for the most part) style, FFXIV has a unique style (people even call it ‘anime’ although it really looks nothing like most anime), OSRS has a very unique style, ESO has uniquely ugly characters, etc. AoC looks very asset generic, with some interesting mounts. The world looks like it will be pretty and generic, with people expected to ‘make all the things happen’. Kinda bland honestly.

[@jokered1133]

The kill 20 goblins quest is a fucking boring quest, but if I go to a town board is select 20 different fetch quests and have them pinned like tasks to do before I end my adventure, I find it not so bad, it just shouldn’t be called a Quest, call it a task, Favor, Job, Chore, whatever, I hate it being called a Quest because a Quest is supposed to be like an adventure which isn’t as simple as fetch this, I loved doing the board tasks in New World because I can just accept as many of them and complete them all within one run, which by the end of the run within a region, I would have gotten Gold and a bunch of resources and would hit some other pre requisite goals I was aiming to achieve while doing those fetch quests. AOC has to tread a fine line between linear stories that don’t fit the sandbox feel they wanna create, and having little to no story within their quests, Because with how modular the Node system is, it might be hard to make hand curated content like an over-world dungeon, and quest related areas, it might look jarring that some areas don’t change with Nodes because it’s a quest related area, or maybe that’s a tradeoff that isn’t so bad, idk, what Im trying to get at is that I hope that they don’t struggle with designing fun and engaging quests, that have story, and gameplay in mind, without being bottlenecked by the systems they’ve created.

[@jordancharm6780]

Ive searched a long time trying to find a good sandbox MMO RPG. I'm excited to try Mortal Online 2 and im curious to see what ashes of creation has to offer

[@Anaximanderification]

Hey man, just a thing, Amazon owns the hardware, not the netcode. It's like saying "I bought this expensive PC, thus I bought FPS skills". No, that does not work like that. Amazon owns just the hardware, if the netcode is done badly - which is done badly, the people that work on those studios like Amazon are trash - then you get login queues. Usually cause they do not even give a shit about login servers - those are different servers than the player servers. Also, most games using instancing or "layering". Same way ESO has megaservers. Ashes is probably running one part of the world in a different server than the rest and use seamless loading over seas to make it look as if there is no loading, similar to what WoW did back in the days before layering, each zone was its own "instnace" but you would never notice loading times, cause the world was streamed in the background instead of a huge loading screen. Of course, going between CONTINENTS demanded a loading screen due to technical limitations.

[@jchinckley]

If the design of the game is to be PvP only, then keep it PvP only. If I, as a player that generally prefers PvE, decide to play AoC then I have to accept that there are no safe places. The only thing I would want is to disallow corpse and spawn camping. That's it. If I want to play a PvP game then I have accepted the PvP concept/aspect of the game. I will have to learn how to PvP like I would have to learn the mechanics of any new game I choose to play. Keep AoC PvP only!!

[@DarkMitten]

Great video :) I agree some people will expect a full game experience at alpha 2 launch. And will give negative feedback when it’s not :(

[@tchort93]

taking pvp out of mmorpgs destroys the game. the pvp players are your long term players that compete even AFTER they play through the content they really wanted to play through. pve players either just repeat content until they get bored and quit or quit when they finish levelling. all that buildup for nothing. trying to make an mmorpg a single player game is just stupid. it wasnt designed for that, if you want to play a single player game, play a single player game. it will be a better game anyways because it was designed for that kind of content. mmorpg single player content is always watered down compared to single player games because IT WASNT DESIGNED FOR IT. they have too much to render to put the amount of detail in each area necessary to create that immersive experience. so everyone ends up leaving anyways to play the single player games that were designed for it. at that point you lost majority of both pvp and pve communities. this is largely why ESO and WoW both suck now.

[@dudere]

I can explain why I like wow over other MMO's. It is the different intensities of challenge. Raiding can be high intensity, high communication. Pug raids can be medium intensity. Soloing can be low intensity where I can watch a show while gathering things for my raid. Heck, it can be even ultra rare intensity. I once spent a couple days reading while fishing up the turtle mount. People in guild were impressed by it. I had not impressed anyone with my ability to sit on my ass and read since 5th grade. When I hear "full pvp mmo" I immediately lose interest. A full PVP game is one where I will never be able to watch a documentary while grinding.

[@BaerBodo]

With this open forced griefer friendly PvP systems in it, AoC will be the biggest fail in MMO history! Remember, this is no indie open PvP sandbox MMO that can exist (for some time) with 1k players peak! Mark my words and thank me later!

[@Turbo614]

Anyone spending money to play an alpha either has too much money or too much time on their hands

[@sawmanUK]

I have neither and i spent money LOL

[@sasasale1157]

TBH, for the last couple of years, I even forgot this game existed. I believe it will be in development for another 10 years, and finally disappear, but it will never be released. They are making their life's work, making it, not releasing it.

[@Nettngale]

They compare to what WoW was not what WoW is now. That's the reason, there are MMOs way younger than WoW, who do not immerse players as WoW did for many reasons, IMO, the main reason is animations and racial culture/mannerisms embedded in animation and models.

[@lellalable]

The biggest red flag for this game is it's been in development for 6-7 years and it looks like a generic UE game. The movement is still very clunky and unintuitive. The combat doesn't look impactful and has a lot of animation locks. The node system is still in shambles for A2 start.

[@cmike123]

Creating PVE servers isnt a problem. That gives a player agency. They can pick which server type they like, and in a PvE server, they have more choice on when the PvP happens. It only negatively affects PvPers. Those servers tend to die first because they dont get to grief the boys out there picking flowers.

[@Label07]

Gangsters paradise overlaying Star Citizen LMAO Also, why has your channel not kicked off, better than most content on youtube.

[@Turgal_]

What I dont get is , alpha is not out yet and stil 50% of the cc for the game are negatif bout the game so why making Content about something you sau is to fail... if you have alpha access to it i am 100 % sure you are going to stream it so basicly shooting in your own foot , do like 80% of the people following the game and watch and see and come back make this video once game is released...

[@MO-nj7tj]

biggest problem with new world is the server issues and fundamentally the whole system itself.. it was made purely pvp but the combat system sux balls. aiming for melee jesus..whoever thought of that has no brain. healing is also sht. enemies follow you even at half of the map.. i was part of the initial kickstarter of aoc but i dropped everything when they made us play battle royale game. i will never play and support this scam of a game. there is already gameplay for it but the old kickstarter folks wasnt even given free access to it. so sht aoc is plain sht.

[@fyreflyte9066]

Alpha 2 = never fucking happening apparently. This game has me so uninterested now after years of waiting for a bloody alpha. ridiculous that it takes years to go from an A1 to A2.

[@Alchemal]

This is one of the most cynical trite pieces of garbage I have watched. These problems are grasping at straws to such a level where it feels like parody. Listening to you make up hypothetical problems then rant about them is wild. I was open minded but these criticisms are awful

[@tommauro3052]

Sawman, can't we just go back to better days of ESO gank builds and shitting on self proclaimed "god -pvpers"? no matter what im here for the long haul.

[@jonathanhughes8679]

No issues with a PvE server, even a couple., As a unique papyrus rely.but no PvP style on a server and cut o 60 % of the player style. Honestly, if they do this then sieges should force PvP on. \these events. To kill the Force PvP.

[@SetariM]

PvP is for hardcores. Casuals playing PvE are where the money's at for subscription fees. A game made for everyone is a game for no one, as well.

[@kayfrenly5460]

Lazypeoon moved to an asian country for a very specific reason involving. Well. I think you know why he'd want to live where he lives

[@dl3472]

I think they should have all male developers on one team and all female developers on another and see who makes the best game, With that said, fuck NEW WORLD

[@barrywhite1770]

Jimmy had a lazy take and deserved any backlash he got. Maybe if he wants to comment on something he should actually look a little deeper than a fetch quest?

[@pipz420]

Military nodes should have more pvp while economic nodes should have more pve and protection from pvp. The pen is mightier than the sword?

[@totomen666]

Yes baby ... turn pvp game into pve and let it die, "One must protect daddy Blizzard at any cost, yes mr Crabs?" /lmao

[@MiCKEYDiAMONDSS]

The game doesn’t even look good, is entirely over ambitious, and won’t come out for another 5 years and by that point the tech will be so outdated and trash.

[@ToMaSsS10]

AoC doesnt look better than a 20 year old game lmaoñ

[@jonathanhughes8679]

Unless\|\\ can create servers that had 6_8k players would be| 1 outstanding _ - body

[@keithrees4755]

thats why i am waiting for full release made the mistake of putting money into star citizen i won't be making the same mistake with this game

[@willsteuer1621]

Ashes of Creation quite literally DOES NOT EXIST. How can it have any MAJOR PROBLEM?

[@oliverdevega]

Love your editing man! Got me laughing so much. Subscribed because of it. Keep it up 😂

[@Bl2EAKIN]

It has 1 main problem that everyone continues to ignore, and it's that this project is a fucking scam.

[@edwinvermeulen8187]

So alpha 2: If we look back at Alpha 1 there are a few things that we can extrapolate. At the start of Alpha 1 pvp was disabled, then after some time it was enabled for events and only the last 2 days (of a month of testing) it was fully enabled. What does this suggest for alpha 2? This suggests that for each itteration there probably will be a defined time to test out the pve only implementations, a time for mixed testing with (castle/node/caravan) sieges, arena's and battlegrounds and a full on pvp mode. New update for new stuff implemented, rinse and repeat. The duration of these subparts will be shortened or lengthened based on feedback, and / or desired testing data. While alpha 2 is an important marketing tool, its main purpose is testing. If you compare this to BG3's early access this is similar. BG3's first itteration in early access plays quite different then its initial full release, however the marketing of it was a lot easier due to players having seen early access footage. Most important of that interaction, wich is what Larian studios was really good at, is showcasing that they are listening to feedback and improving upon it.

[@TatharNuar]

The Star Citizen mention seems more prophetic the more I think about it.

[@Eli9A]

i never licked the combat system of new world, this is why it drew me away. it was ok but not attractive enough to miss it

[@blogtrump9965]

Need more games like ark PvP. Shows players reality and is fun asf.

[@konstantinkrastev4478]

there are wow killers, they are called fortnight lmao and other MMO lites

[@scorelordgaming9993]

Everyone else knew it was dead years ago. Great meme content though! Keep it up champ.

[@metacube9913]

Based video except for the New World bit, them switching to pve was the best choice they ever made tbh

[@kairosfury]

We need more games that build on the concepts of Final Fantasy 11 and modernize it.

[@MitternachtssternXIII]

aoc now looks just like a wow clone xD wasnt the combat planned 2 be action rpg like?

[@aresameliajenalpha9019]

No game nowadays lasts over a month, the population drops when the hype fades.

[@argumentativelysound2001]

I saw WOW long time ago, didn't like it. Then I saw GW 1... What a game it was!

[@amarjamakovic1297]

Developers and upper management kill MMOs, not other MMOs.

[@MrJukeboxking]

Pretending that New World's demise was because of its shift towards a more PvE focused environment instead of its many, MANY shortcomings is honestly wild, but you do you.

[@sawmanUK]

Pretending ? Ah yes …. I pretend , you caught me in my lie , well done 👍

[@lordbane5627]

If WoW is a boomer game, I must be from the Greatest Generation lol