[2.7] A First Look at the Fatui Harbingers - A Genshin Impact Theory and Analysis

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Ashikai

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@EmmanuelMarin07
@EmmanuelMarin07 2 жыл бұрын
Childe: no fear Columbina: *exists* Childe: one fear
@jlupe4858
@jlupe4858 2 жыл бұрын
That made me crack up 😆 🤣
@rinrinlng
@rinrinlng 2 жыл бұрын
I ignore him saying that colombina is just-
@Kieran_Duffy
@Kieran_Duffy 2 жыл бұрын
@@rinrinlng I don't wanna know.
@Traveller281
@Traveller281 2 жыл бұрын
One more point for Columbina is that Childe literally goes "yeah I should spar with that guy" about the geo archon and then looks at this little girl and just "...nope."
@kep3898
@kep3898 2 жыл бұрын
@Knave Arlecchino. Wait what leaks?? How are they as strong as archons??
@rustyroast24
@rustyroast24 2 жыл бұрын
*Updates since this video has been released:* - Dottore is now confirmed to be No. 2 of the Fatui Harbingers - The Top 3 Harbingers (Capitano, Dottore, and Columbina) have power comparable to gods, - Katheryne is now confirmed to be "a bionic Snezhnayan puppet" according to Nahida, further supporting the theory that Sandrone and her are connected - I don't believe we saw Dottore's full design at this time, but he has a plague doctor mask on his back. So I believe that basically confirms his constellation is the Plague Doctor - Sandrone is now confirmed to be No. 7 of the Fatui Harbingers in one of the Wanderer’s voicelines - Pantalone and Dottore are now confirmed to have a close connection. - Pantalone is now confirmed to be No. 9 of the Fatui Harbingers. - Scaramouche/Wanderer is no longer a part of the Fatui as of the 3.3 archon quest, "Inversion of Genesis." None know of his existence and have assumed that the sixth seat has been empty for years. - Rumors have been circulating that Pierro is not considered a harbinger, and that there is one more hidden harbinger. This is not confirmed, but it’s a very popular theory. - Since Baizhu will now be playable, the theory of Pantalone and Baizhu’s connection has been weakened (I’m not saying it’s impossible, just less possible) - Arlecchino is now confirmed to be #4 of the Fatui Harbingers - Capitano will be showing up in Natlan and apparently has a large presence there. - Capitano is now confirmed to be No. 1 of the Fatui Harbingers - An Update to Constellations: Arlecchino's constellation is the searing hand. - Arlecchino and Capitano are both from Khan'riah
@amaira4651
@amaira4651 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that we now know that Sandrone is the seventh.
@rustyroast24
@rustyroast24 Жыл бұрын
@@amaira4651 gonna add this, this wasn’t confirmed when I first made this
@amaira4651
@amaira4651 Жыл бұрын
@@rustyroast24 I know, I was just telling you to do it.
@matty__sharpe__
@matty__sharpe__ Жыл бұрын
it's pretty mad she got a bit right without knowing about sumeru's story. she is very talented and insightful
@amaira4651
@amaira4651 Жыл бұрын
@@matty__sharpe__ agreed
@christian311
@christian311 2 жыл бұрын
Dainsleif: "Always be on your guard when around gods. You shouldn't place too much trust in them. But at the same time, don't go too far in the opposite direction... Don't go trying to overthrow them, or hunt them down. Even if the god in question is your sworn enemy." He seems to be referring to Pierro and the Abyss.
@sureyeah3678
@sureyeah3678 2 жыл бұрын
So the Abyss is the past, Pierro the future, and Dainslief only want to save the Present? Huh, Neat
@louisaniathemagnificent8246
@louisaniathemagnificent8246 2 жыл бұрын
@@sureyeah3678 that’s actually a good way to put it. The Abyss and Pierro seem to want to take revenge and reshape the world to the image they want, while Dainsleif just wants to put an end to the conflict and have Tevyat move on together instead of against each other.
@BladeShadow1000
@BladeShadow1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@louisaniathemagnificent8246 there's also the chance that Dain after seeing how strong Celestia is unlike the other two that want revenge, realized that Celestia can't be defeated. And it would be a failing endeavour.
@thebeidussygotme3048
@thebeidussygotme3048 2 жыл бұрын
@@BladeShadow1000 thinking about it, we still don't know much about celestia or "the divine". both abyss and fatui appears to be "bad actions, good intentions" and are actively against the divine. but just how bad or how good is the divine anyway? it really intrigues me how far we've come and how little we truly know of what's happening in teyvat. for now, i do agree with dainsleif the most
@hey7492
@hey7492 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebeidussygotme3048 I mean, we don't know much but we do know how bad they objectively are and or have been in the past lol, seeing how they destroyed an entire civilization and damaged others so harshly, and how the sustainer of the heavinly principles is most likely fighting the travelers at the start of the game because the abyss twin sided with khaenriah, and now Celestia might be testing us to see which side we would go for, and that could probably be just a standard test or something similar in order to Celestia to choose a new high ranking god, archon or something powerful. I don't see many people asking themselves how bad or how good the divine is nowadays, from my perspective the whole main story is about the damage theyve caused but yeah
@ngnsinon4571
@ngnsinon4571 2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting note about Pierro playing with the chessboard is that he’s using his hands to move the pieces but in the previous shot, we see that the white knight piece moved by itself to take out the black pawn. Since it was covered in a faint frost, it could be that the person playing with Pierro to be the cryo archon. This would also explain her presence in other parts of the video with the freezing tapestry and Signora’s tomb freezing over so fast
@Ashikai
@Ashikai 2 жыл бұрын
That would match with her playing white alongside the rest of celestia's willing or unwilling forces too...
@hisao-1428
@hisao-1428 2 жыл бұрын
There were multiple frames kinda telling us that Tsaritsa was there in the room with them. Knight piece moving with a cryo power, hanging curtain thing starting to freeze, cryo particles flowing from the left side of the screen in the frame of side view of the chess board and the frame after the all harbingers around the coffin frame, freezing the whole tomb and surrounding area (cmon who else could it be), and lastly I think that all harbingers around the coffin frame was in Tsaritsa's POV.
@vecipheragain
@vecipheragain 2 жыл бұрын
@@hisao-1428 wouldn’t that make her pretty short?
@flyingcow5235
@flyingcow5235 2 жыл бұрын
@@hisao-1428 yeah. like how venti returned to mondstadt in the form of a breeze every weinlesefest, we can say that the tsaritsa attended the funeral in the form of ice
@hisao-1428
@hisao-1428 2 жыл бұрын
@@flyingcow5235 no not really in the form of ice. She could've been there in person. They couldn't show her because the grand reveal has to come in Snezhnaya chapter.
@niamhomahony7794
@niamhomahony7794 2 жыл бұрын
Columbina could be connected to the seelies as well, there's a theory that's she appears in 'A Drunkard's Tale' singing the song of the seelies. If she is a descendant of the seelies it would make sense why she's so powerful.
@ArachisNPO
@ArachisNPO 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed! I also think that she is either the last living seelie, or an angel connected to the Primordial One. Both of these identities would make sense.
@PhiDuyanh
@PhiDuyanh 2 жыл бұрын
Oh damn, that does make sense
@xiaolin6541
@xiaolin6541 2 жыл бұрын
Well she is Seele Voleerie after all.
@ridhoanandri6725
@ridhoanandri6725 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt most of them are human tbh, but pierro being human is quite a nice touch with dain "we human have our humanity" saying. So maybe the fatui will also make great influence in the story even after snezhnaya
@billystokes3917
@billystokes3917 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that'd be incredible!
@lasselen9448
@lasselen9448 2 жыл бұрын
Little thought about Kaeya/Pierro: what if it's not the eyepatch that was "handed down genetically", but the need to wear an eyepatch? As far as I know we've never seen what's under it. Great video as usual, thanks!
@Sacration
@Sacration 2 жыл бұрын
OMG thats intereting !! You may be righr
@knightofcarrion7358
@knightofcarrion7358 2 жыл бұрын
Given that dainslief also has a cover on his eye.. well not his eye but around his eye. I am assuming something is going on
@louisdead6761
@louisdead6761 2 жыл бұрын
I think its somehow referencing the "all seeing eye" in a way. Clearly khaenri'ah has aggressive connections to one eyed symbolism. The black serpent knights drop this little statue thing that is missing an eye and it clearly references kaeyas father and what he said to him when he left him. It also says its probably a statue of an "important figure" or "divine being" which to me makes it seem like its perhaps a symbol of khaenri'ahn royalty. So maybe since khaenri'ah didn't have a god they worshipped royalty like gods, and maybe a symbol of khaenri'ahn royalty or important figures in khaenri'ah (like dain being the twilight sword) is the all seeing eye.
@louisdead6761
@louisdead6761 2 жыл бұрын
Kaeyas eyepatch is a separate model in game which means it can be taken off. I've glitched the game to see whats under his eyepatch and i wont say what it is here but its weird that he tries to hide it since it could be explained away easily unless theres other things going on with his eye we cant see.
@Sophaloafah
@Sophaloafah 2 жыл бұрын
@@louisdead6761 I’ve seen people do the glitch and I’m pretty sure it’s actually his glove texture
@resaiya4680
@resaiya4680 2 жыл бұрын
I think Sandrone indeed is that little lady, cuz in this PV every harbinger has that white furry coat on them and I think that's their "SPECIAL UNIFORM", which customizes everyone no matter how tall (Pierrot) or short ( Puccinella) they are. But that big robot has no uniform and gets those runes on his arms just like the ruin gard, so I think he's just a puppet.
@yashsarda2263
@yashsarda2263 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a simple but great observation!
@slimely9758
@slimely9758 2 жыл бұрын
no, I think they just have those jackets bc it's extremely cold in that region
@TCSyndicate
@TCSyndicate 2 жыл бұрын
@@slimely9758 and you wouldn't feel the cold and need a jacket if you're a robot
@edgieststalker8141
@edgieststalker8141 2 жыл бұрын
@@TCSyndicate maybe he feels something, like the story of a robot that has a heart after all
@Floppyfishflop
@Floppyfishflop 2 жыл бұрын
also in the scene when you see all of the harbingers they all have the chain insignia thing on the right side of their coats. Because the girl has it she is probably the harbinger
@bunny-vt8rp
@bunny-vt8rp 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact : The trailer is called " A Winter Night's Lazzo,” and lazzi are basically stock skits in the commedia. One of the lazzo involves a character being mistaken for dead. There's a lot of them most notably the revival and undead lazzos. Basically the point is there’s still a slight chance for Signora depending on what MHY decides to do from here, guess we’ll have to see!
@firefoxphoenix6845
@firefoxphoenix6845 2 жыл бұрын
I keep getting amazed at how Signora fans keep getting sustainable-ish reasons as to why she’s coming back, like some of them have actual merit to them.
@Wiradika1414
@Wiradika1414 2 жыл бұрын
Still have a hope for Copium 😂😂😂
@velvetra29
@velvetra29 2 жыл бұрын
But with Her Majesty freezing her coffin, i think Rosalyne is already DEAD dead. If there's way for bringing her back to life, i think they won't held such a symbolic funeral for her (and for Tsaritsa to stick the last nail in the coffin, literally, by freezing it). I mean, by how the Harbingers hold her in such a high regard, Tsaritsa must be quite a character that won't be emotional enough to mistook someone's death.
@alial-kateeb5267
@alial-kateeb5267 2 жыл бұрын
@@firefoxphoenix6845 it is probably because mihoyo want to associate the harbingers with their biblical number wether or not signora will be revived
@alial-kateeb5267
@alial-kateeb5267 2 жыл бұрын
@@velvetra29 somone on reddit theorized since she is dead that doesn't mean what ever in the coffin doesn't need to be suppressed basically with the lack of signora delusion tsaritsa had to freeze her coffin
@matthewstone500
@matthewstone500 2 жыл бұрын
There’s an ex-opera singer who did a video about the Fatui Harbingers called MarcoMeatball (I swear, he’s actually pretty insightful, despite having not played the game much) and he goes a little in-depth into the Commedia Dell’Arte that might shed some more light on these characters. Might be interesting to watch, if you have the time.
@V1G4M1
@V1G4M1 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh, fellow fan of his videos I see? I wholeheartedly agree! That man has read the music of the game so well, I trust his insight quite a bit! :D
@lyarogers6101
@lyarogers6101 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍. I just watched his video on it yesterday and it was very interesting to see a bit more in depth of the real life characters.
@feroxino1051
@feroxino1051 2 жыл бұрын
Hey yeah as a fellow italian he’s great at explaining it despite him never having played the game
@CHEESEPUFF_7
@CHEESEPUFF_7 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to see that video mentioned here
@grimoireweissfan6969
@grimoireweissfan6969 2 жыл бұрын
It's insane how his guesses on certain characters are spot on despite never playing the game and only basing it on the music. HIs Rex Incognito reaction was incredible.
@nishikosan7915
@nishikosan7915 2 жыл бұрын
"I'll be real with you guys, all I wanna do is put Kaeya, Dainsleif, and Pierro in one room and shake them all up. Shake them, until they spill all of their secrets." *I am stuck in this game because of them, and you have no idea how much I just want their part of the lore to shine. *
@juan3143
@juan3143 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe once they are all playable, which if it happens would be arround 4 years from now
@Sophaloafah
@Sophaloafah 2 жыл бұрын
Add albedo to the mix as well
@Orion_TheyThem
@Orion_TheyThem 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sophaloafah why? Albedo isn't from Khaen'riah. His maker, Rhinesdottir was. But we haven't seen her.
@knightofwisdom8851
@knightofwisdom8851 2 жыл бұрын
I just want these guys to just chill,drink some tea & talk about old times
@zinyt3952
@zinyt3952 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I was imagining her shaking these three characters on a jar the way you would shake garlic cloves in a jar to make their skin easier to peel off lol
@tophatdoctor7855
@tophatdoctor7855 2 жыл бұрын
Weird that characters from Khaenri’ah tend to conceal the right side of their face. Pierro’s mask kinda looks like a more extravagant version of Dainsleif’s, which could potentially be indicative of their relative strengths, or their rank in Khaenri’ah before the cataclysm.
@manjunath414
@manjunath414 2 жыл бұрын
Kayea too
@varharan
@varharan 2 жыл бұрын
What if they show how much they have forgotten?
@Sacration
@Sacration 2 жыл бұрын
And one of materials spawn by Husk (I think) resemble Odin-like character with a Red Eye. And that object talk about a King. Plus Gunhildr Jean talk about The clorious King of K too... Idk maybe something is special about this specific eye idk
@firefoxphoenix6845
@firefoxphoenix6845 2 жыл бұрын
Ooo have any of you guys watched Ashikai’s theory on masks? It’s honestly one of my favorites and it’s a good watch!
@zzzz7815
@zzzz7815 2 жыл бұрын
one of our first quest that we had to do with a Khaenri'ahn was to take out a Ruin Guard's eye as well.
@tienaellitha
@tienaellitha 2 жыл бұрын
Unless I'm forgetting a line in another quest (probable), Diluc's voice line for Kaeya is "You can only trust half of what he says... at best." I've always taken that to mean essentially what you're saying: He says a lot, and only half of it is important. He's not really telling straight-up lies, but it is masterful obfuscation. I see him more as that person that tells seemingly inane stories, and likes to see if people catch what he's actually telling them.
@Picking.a.name.is.hard1
@Picking.a.name.is.hard1 2 жыл бұрын
Also Diluc is notoriously very angry at Kaeya so maybe he's exaggerating. I honestly really don't want Kaeya to be evil and turn against Mond only because he's from Kaehnriah. I just think it would be lazy and kinda boring? He acts so shady that everyone basically expects him to do sth and we already have the Abyss sibling and now Pierro as Kaehnriahn antagonists... Idk Id like for Kaeya to just not turn against Mond even if he struggles with it.
@crazy13alex
@crazy13alex Жыл бұрын
@@Picking.a.name.is.hard1 What about as a double agent for Mondstadt? But it isn't known to anyone but Venti.
@skimmilk8096
@skimmilk8096 2 жыл бұрын
maybe watching a 40-minute analysis at 5am is not a Good Idea but now that im here i must watch
@epipia1996
@epipia1996 2 жыл бұрын
im with ya buddy. bad decision hours
@sowo7136
@sowo7136 2 жыл бұрын
Mood
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 2 жыл бұрын
You know it's bad when you procrastinate on sleep. At least, that's the story of my life.
@MoTanG_0o
@MoTanG_0o 2 жыл бұрын
I mean what were you even doing till 5am?? Wait wait.... I don't even wanna know
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 2 жыл бұрын
Then theres me at 8:37 am...
@ChazNatlo
@ChazNatlo 2 жыл бұрын
There is a trait that Childe does share with his Commedia counterpart, at least metaphorically. Tartaglia is also frequently depicted as being short sighted, on top of his stutter. Which while Childe doesn't need glasses, he has shown himself to only think a few moves ahead. His attacking us for stealing the Gnosis which he later realises we couldn't have (with his death or Glory mode, no less), and more famously, his plan to summon Osial to bait out Morax so he could beat him up and take his gnosis. There is no way that fight goes Childe's way, even ignoring back to back uses of foul legacy.
@drpaimon2369
@drpaimon2369 2 жыл бұрын
He also shares his cocky confidence with his commedia counterpart
@Ansytea
@Ansytea 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda thought the "stuttering" part of Tartaglia was when he's panicking when making up excuses about being a Toyseller for Teucer, like in his story quest where he suddenly made a speech about kites lol
@hengshouhuinaomiwangshouhu7937
@hengshouhuinaomiwangshouhu7937 2 жыл бұрын
In commedia dell’arte, pantalone is married to La Signora, which hints at the strong connection between the both.
@kh666ra
@kh666ra 2 жыл бұрын
as a student the first thing i saw in pantalone's constellation was the invisible hand theory from Adam Smith . It's an economics theory ( very dumbed down explanation ) that social or greater good comes out of accumulated self interest. interesting to think abt !
@niconicosama
@niconicosama Жыл бұрын
Update 0. Pierro - The Jester 1. Capitano - The Captain 2. Il Dottore - The Doctor 3. Columbina - Damselette 4. Arlecchino - The Knave 5. Pulcinella - The Rooster 6. Scaramouche - Balladeer 7. Sandrone - The Marionette 8. Signora - The Fair Lady 9. Pantalone - Regrator 10. ??? 11. Tartaglia
@charlesnguyen9852
@charlesnguyen9852 2 жыл бұрын
About Pantalone: One of Childe's line mentioned the possibility of meeting his Segment. This raised the possibility of Dottore cloning his fellow Harbingers (with or without their knowledge or consent). Baizhu could be one of Pantalone's Segment, used in Liyue exclusively, forgoing Pantalone (Prime) needs to ever step foot out of the igloo (as Arlecino so put it). About Capitano: Captain Snezhnaya reminds me so much of the Witch-king of Angmar (LOTR), who was a human king twisted into serving a dark lord. This could be a parallel to your idea that a yaksha was corrupted by the karma, got killed by his fellow but did not die.
@edgieststalker8141
@edgieststalker8141 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the two would happen to cross paths, how would Qiqi react, like her not beign able to differ from Baizhu and Pantalone
@Usteo
@Usteo 2 жыл бұрын
Then not only is Baizhu proven to be an archon (not until confirmed really) but I think he may be pantalone’s complete opposite
@pozzsicle
@pozzsicle 2 жыл бұрын
That Pantalone theory is quite interesting... I don't personally buy it, since there isn't much evidence to back it up, but intriguing nonetheless. I imagine Baizhu was meant to be an exact replica, but something went wrong. He ended up with similar traits to Mr. Pants, but there ended up being very noticeable differences. (Possibly due it being the first time Dottore truly got the chance to clone someone other than himself, and he messed up) It would also explain his sickness, if his creation didn't go as planned, I imagine that would cause at least some health issues...
@ChamChamRealSmooth
@ChamChamRealSmooth 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Dottore has a Segment of Signora then? Copium.
@charlesnguyen9852
@charlesnguyen9852 2 жыл бұрын
@@pozzsicle That's very good point. Or maybe I have it backward and Dottore used his fellow Harbingers as test cases before actually perfecting the techniques and start working on himself (not really out of character from what little we've seen).
@meepswag35
@meepswag35 2 жыл бұрын
so a few things about signora. the coffin is empty, in a few cultures they have empty coffins. and while I personally do not care whatsoever if shes playable, khaenri'ah is a playable region, at least according the travail trailer. the problem is it's destroyed. so my personal theory is we meet istaroth, and travel back in time to khaenri'ah to have the storyline happen there. then, we could meet and play dead characters, such as Rosalyne.
@InactiveTwig
@InactiveTwig 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it could work like "dark mode" in cookie run :0
@ChamChamRealSmooth
@ChamChamRealSmooth 2 жыл бұрын
That's what's always bothered me about Genshin's timeline, like how the Khaenri'ah chapter is after Snezhnaya and why it isn't Act 7 but Act ??. It's because of time travel, which is already established in the lore with Raiden's story quest. It was kinda hidden in plain sight too, like how we can use Paimon to manipulate time and how we're called "Traveler". I'm gonna assume some horrible shit is gonna happen at the end of Snezhnaya's chapter or at the beginning of Khaenri'ah chapter with the Tsaritsa fighting against Celestia, then we'd have to travel back in time. That way, many more characters could be playable, like the original Archons (such as Makoto), Rosalyne, the other Yaksha...
@nebunezz_r
@nebunezz_r 2 жыл бұрын
This is a huge fucking cope
@meepswag35
@meepswag35 2 жыл бұрын
@@nebunezz_r I genuinely do not care abour signora, but they made a lot of lore and models for characters, and I doubt they are going to just throw them away
@nebunezz_r
@nebunezz_r 2 жыл бұрын
​@@meepswag35 Don't give me that, We are playing as raiden shogun yet we didn't get Magatsu Miitake model for her alternate burst form even when we knew Magatsu Miitake is Raiden Shogun form. Why even thinking that they will do anything for Signora. by your logic any humanoid world boss should be playable, and that should include Maguu Kenki, so Unless we got playable Maguu Kenki, I will call every theory that revive signora as cope.
@matthewedgerton5761
@matthewedgerton5761 2 жыл бұрын
I have a personal theory that the Commedia tropes don't represent the Harbingers as the people they currently are, but rather represent who they used to be pre-Harbinger. EG: Tartaglia isnt a stuttering incompetent, but her certainly may have been before his stint in the Abyss and tutelage under Skirk. Regrator WAS a stingy Mora obsessed miser when he was still a poor peasant, but now that he's wealthy and powerful he's bitter and cynical of the entire system to begin with. Capitano isnt "all talk cocky" like the trope currently, he's the real deal, but he may very well HAVE been a cocky military officer who found himself completely inadequate in the face of a REAL brutal, bloody catastrophe (Khanri'ah?). Dottore WAS merely a naiive but earnest scientist at first, but his pursuit of heretical research eventually turned him into the Harbinger of today. etc etc. No idea if this will pan out and I've not explored it in detail, it just seemed to fit for their tropes and made more sense Chronologically - their title was given to them as a representation of who they WERE, rather than who they're trying to be. Edit: Also "The game does not end with Checkmate" to me reads more as "This is not a war where as soon as we take down the enemy leader they surrender, this is a war of annihilation that will keep going until either all of us or every last enemy is dead and gone".
@Eclipsed_Embers
@Eclipsed_Embers 2 жыл бұрын
honestly this really fits because that does seem like it was the case for Childe, his backstory states that "As a child, Tartaglia was frightened and hesitant" but the Abyss and training with Skirk fundamentally changed him into a bloodthirsty warrior at the age of 14
@beef_file4459
@beef_file4459 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Code Geass where Lelouch has to sacrifice the king piece(metaphorically) to win the game.
@nekokasha_mizusu
@nekokasha_mizusu 2 жыл бұрын
This also is interesting because the stories and tropes are "destiny" given by the divine. and THAT is what they are going against. They are fools who is trying to defy the destiny. "heavenly principles" is mostly related to waves that mortals cannot defy, so therefore in east asian cultures those who tries are depicted as fools. fatui means fools. so this could be the case where they go against their trope. "reverse" the trope.
@tiff7329
@tiff7329 2 жыл бұрын
Capitano being number 2 kinda makes sense. Him being the "Captain" probably makes him the highest ranking military official in Snezhnaya. Which would most likely make him in charge of all the non-harbinger Fatui enemies that we fight.
@abitsillyy
@abitsillyy 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta update this a bit friend
@Ashikai
@Ashikai 2 жыл бұрын
Or folks could check the date/patch posted :P
@abitsillyy
@abitsillyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ashikai sorry
@Seba_19
@Seba_19 2 жыл бұрын
Childe says that Sandrone mostly stays to herself and builds robots, so I'm pretty sure the girl is the harbinger. I think the ruin machine is like a butler or something.
@angelicgacha
@angelicgacha 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea the ruin guard was made into a wheelchair like Bronya from honkai
@JaggedVII
@JaggedVII 2 жыл бұрын
@@annaairahala9462 Damn people really want the robot to be a harbinger huh
@Eclipsed_Embers
@Eclipsed_Embers 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelicgacha personally I'm a big fan of this idea purely because of how unique it'd make her as a playable character if she had that robot carrying her around constantly, I could picture her having no actual offence of her own with her abilities just going towards buffing the robot while it fights and defends her.
@I-lost-my-account-rip
@I-lost-my-account-rip Жыл бұрын
@@Eclipsed_Embers so she's gonna be like clara
@Eclipsed_Embers
@Eclipsed_Embers Жыл бұрын
@@I-lost-my-account-rip I guess, but carried full time, even outside of battle, instead of her robot just appearing for her attacks
@cdv3401
@cdv3401 2 жыл бұрын
I’m literally on my knees begging for Pierro to be playable. He looks so tired and broken and I love him.
@vans2548
@vans2548 2 жыл бұрын
The Geralt vibe is strong argh cant wait
@revthescatman137
@revthescatman137 2 жыл бұрын
@@vans2548 like Geralt from Nier?
@-fenrisulfr-690
@-fenrisulfr-690 2 жыл бұрын
I would like old man 5 star when we got so much pretty bois
@pulseless5968
@pulseless5968 2 жыл бұрын
@@revthescatman137 like Geralt from the witcher
@revthescatman137
@revthescatman137 2 жыл бұрын
@@pulseless5968 ah he
@shape_shifter_835
@shape_shifter_835 2 жыл бұрын
Also maybe the harbingers are letting Scaramouche take the gnosis, because he may be the only one who can activated. The reason I’m saying this is because Venti’s and Zhongli’s gnosis where taken away directly from them, whereas Ei might’ve deactivated hers before giving it to Yae. Thus there’s the need of someone, with partial god authority, to activate it.
@Someonelikemeyeah_03
@Someonelikemeyeah_03 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting..
@someoneinasia
@someoneinasia 2 жыл бұрын
@space_cadet 101 wait, did you forget about tsaritsa who is a god who can use other gods gnosis? pretty sure she can reactivate a gnosis.
@The1andonlysharpshooter
@The1andonlysharpshooter 2 жыл бұрын
Signora went to ask Raiden for the gnosis and seal the deal, was she expecting raiden to have it or was she just asking for approval to take it from Yae?
@someoneinasia
@someoneinasia 2 жыл бұрын
​@@The1andonlysharpshooter i don't think she knew about scara already taking the gnosis.
@ridhoanandri6725
@ridhoanandri6725 2 жыл бұрын
@@someoneinasia nah she doesn't, she went to tenshukaku expecting to gain raiden gnosis
@theshig9618
@theshig9618 2 жыл бұрын
Her coffin looks like it might be a cenotaph, a type of monument for the fallen often used in place of a grave, which would make perfect sense if there is no body to bury.
@trulymrword
@trulymrword 2 жыл бұрын
The Fatuus sent to the Chasm were apparently there to fight against the Abyss and Katarina's quest hints that the people of Teyvat would one day join them in a final fight.
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 2 жыл бұрын
Stopping to think about that... she literally says "to the stars and to the abyss" or something like that.
@hey7492
@hey7492 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonnevitu4979 thats literally the adventurers guild motto, is the translation of ''Ad astra abyssosque''
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 2 жыл бұрын
@@hey7492 yep
@shinitaan
@shinitaan 2 жыл бұрын
I just love how this small trailer throws everybody in a frenzy and theories are popping from everywhere, people lining it back to old theories, to other scenes, to lines hidden in profiles... the excitation around it is so much fun.
@niamhomahony7794
@niamhomahony7794 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for Ashikai's opinions on Genshin's latest sexy villains. Good luck to everyone pulling in 6.0
@anaxerion2387
@anaxerion2387 2 жыл бұрын
Considering what happened to Signora, we would be lucky if at least half of them will be playable
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 2 жыл бұрын
@@anaxerion2387 I Still want Signora to be playable and I'll say it in every survey and petition til the end of time. If we can play Aloy from out of no where then we can play Signora. I don't care if they have to raise her from the dead.
@neroz06m.20
@neroz06m.20 2 жыл бұрын
@@anaxerion2387 arlechino sounds like someone who will side with the traveler when push comes to shove
@niamhomahony7794
@niamhomahony7794 2 жыл бұрын
@@neroz06m.20 Arlecchino and Columbina will probably be the friendliest harbingers to the Traveler. They usually help the innamorati in commedia plus traveler and abyss sibling are the closest characters in game to the innamorati roles
@Reaper2410
@Reaper2410 2 жыл бұрын
Celestia is the true villain, the fatui's cause is actually a good one.
@bmz9088
@bmz9088 2 жыл бұрын
Another good one! For Capitano, what are the chances he's the hero survivor of Sal Vindagnyr and joined the Fatui to get back at Celestia? Love can make people go bonkers in the world of Hoyoverse. Being the hero would make sense of his honest approach while turning a blind eye to the questionable actions of his comrades because this will aid his revenge. I can't think of him as a Yaksha since most of them live to fight due to the contract with Rex Lapis. Honor isn't their primary reason to fight, unlike the Sal Vindagnyr hero.
@Ashikai
@Ashikai 2 жыл бұрын
Imunlaukr you mean? That would be amazing.
@GMdelsXT9
@GMdelsXT9 2 жыл бұрын
Someitimes, Love Makes You do CRAZY (sometimes evil) things. Especially in the Hoyoverse. If Honkai and La Signora wasn't enough of an indicator.
@LuizHenrique9406
@LuizHenrique9406 2 жыл бұрын
I've also seen people saying that Capitano could be the Bloodstained Knight
@notmaylea
@notmaylea 2 жыл бұрын
@@LuizHenrique9406 oh but isn't he dead?
@JaggedVII
@JaggedVII 2 жыл бұрын
@@LuizHenrique9406 I’m pretty sure the bloodstain knight joined the Abyss
@kevinirmiter3669
@kevinirmiter3669 2 жыл бұрын
The general GI community's reaction when the trailer dropped: "Wow, this is so cool." This channel's reaction when the trailer dropped. "Wow, this is so cool. And Ashikai is going to LOSE HER SHIT."
@faunaria7127
@faunaria7127 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO TRUE, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT OF HER HARBINGER VIDEO FROM LAST TIME
@louisdead6761
@louisdead6761 2 жыл бұрын
Literally- When i first watched it i was so excited and already coming up with theories and it occurred to me "oh ashikai isn't finishing that yaksha video anytime soon huh"
@mitacestalia7532
@mitacestalia7532 2 жыл бұрын
lore and theorist lost their shit
@chaosxny5784
@chaosxny5784 2 жыл бұрын
I find it kind of interesting how The Harbingers (more specifically Capitano, Arlecchino, Childe) seem like opposites of their Commedia Dell’Arte counterparts. Il Capitano was boastful and a bragger while The Captain seems more collected and focused on the task at hand (he was the only one during the funeral to question about Scaramouche). Arlecchino was usually a man and a comic relief character. In Genshin, Arlecchino is a woman and way more serious and brooding. Tartaglia was a old man, while Childe is the youngest Harbinger. I don't know, just something to think about. Great video, Kai.
@joshhallam6342
@joshhallam6342 2 жыл бұрын
Pantaloon who is an old man in Commedia Dell'arte but in genshin verison he an young good looking man Scaramouche is probably the closest to his Commedia countpart with his villainous trait and begin a foreigners
@onnopleaseno649
@onnopleaseno649 2 жыл бұрын
i have a pet theory about the peacock, because in zoroastrianism the peacock is a symbol of angra mainyu, all of the worlds evil, but the thing is its the one thing he made that wasnt evil. to me this shows an idea of the father of kaeya wanted "evil" but kaeya does not. i also think our dear knave may turn to our side for her benefit or ideological reasons. i also wonder that if pierro is playing for the tsaritsa, who is the player for celestia, who could be the one commanding the demons gods given names from the ars goetia.
@Solitude2500
@Solitude2500 2 жыл бұрын
Celestia's player could probably be Solomon or Saklas/Yaldaboth
@user___name2468
@user___name2468 2 жыл бұрын
kaeya is slightly less angry mango
@Jrpogi98
@Jrpogi98 2 жыл бұрын
What if Arlecchino is from the "slums" of fontaine? She has a bit of disdain for the banker and the aristocracy. I wonder if she was an orphan going hungry in the slums until someone saved her and let her feel the "love" of the tsaritsa. Probably why she runs an orphanage as well. She went through that and doesn't want other "kids" to experience the pain.
@RandomInternetWeeb
@RandomInternetWeeb 2 жыл бұрын
Arlecchino definitely has a fontaine vibe to her, if that makes any sense. I was definitely thinking that we'd first actually meet her for the first time in Fontaine
@bhavya5692
@bhavya5692 2 жыл бұрын
But she trains them to be child soldiers
@AFKay-sv1dl
@AFKay-sv1dl 2 жыл бұрын
@@bhavya5692 just like she would if she really is an orphan that was saved and recruited by the Fatui
@bhavya5692
@bhavya5692 2 жыл бұрын
@@AFKay-sv1dl and my point still stands
@Unmakyr2001
@Unmakyr2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomInternetWeeb the one who gives me the strongest fontaine vibes are damselette and sandrone
@TheDeluche
@TheDeluche 2 жыл бұрын
Have you watched Marco Meatballs Fatui and comedia dell’arte explanation? It’s very insightful as his Italian opera background and knowledge of performing arts really gives a deeper perspective.
@doplop
@doplop 2 жыл бұрын
i just saw your comment and then went to go watch something else and in my recommended i see that video
@Ashikai
@Ashikai 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! I have!
@Svenir
@Svenir 2 жыл бұрын
A small thing about the chess board: The Tsaritsa's own gnosis is not there at all. I'd say that means that it's indeed only one game of several.
@angelicgacha
@angelicgacha 2 жыл бұрын
I like this. I do think it weird that her gnosis isn't on the board, maybe it's locked up. It doesn't make too much sense on why she'd still have it though. I kind of thought it could be the black queen, probably the most interesting piece on the fatui board. But it's more likely to be white at the very least, only half the pieces so far so who knows.
@catmixo
@catmixo 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelicgacha Well she needs her Gnosis and with the rest together she is gonna challenge Celestia that is why she is collecting them all
@angelicgacha
@angelicgacha 2 жыл бұрын
@@catmixo I just figured she wouldn't have it on her til she needs it. It connects her to Celestia, I guess it keeps the sus of celestia. If they don't know what's she's planning.
@Kim2400
@Kim2400 2 жыл бұрын
In my country, there's a saying that when the palm of your hand itches it means you'll become rich, because the itching of the palm symbolizes money being placed into your hand. So I also believe that Pantallone is the Hand Constellation. Also Arleccino is so similar to how I imagined the Hydro Archon would be like. Princely, Dignified, and a symbol of Justice which is kinda funny.
@thebeidussygotme3048
@thebeidussygotme3048 2 жыл бұрын
unfortunately i didn't depict the hydro archon as you lol. from the hydro gemstones we can receive and craft, seems like the hydro archon is someone full of herself (she does have reasons, granted). she seeks to judge others (especially all gods) and thinks highly of herself but even she becomes a coward against the divine. the hydro archon is conceited and egoistic. so i'd imagine her as pretty pristine asshole route rather than dashing lady. nonetheless, arlecchino subverted my expectations. i thought she'd be a man and pulcinella would be a woman. a handsome woman in genshin isn't pulled of quite well, so I'm looking forward to see who she is and what she is capable of. her eyes is probably the most remarkable feature!
@wakawakawakawaka8804
@wakawakawakawaka8804 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebeidussygotme3048 going to be honest, I think the hydro archon is going to be based on durandal from honkai
@thebeidussygotme3048
@thebeidussygotme3048 2 жыл бұрын
@@wakawakawakawaka8804 really? well that'd be interesting! i only heard of rumours like tsaritsa will be based off bronya
@ducktk
@ducktk 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebeidussygotme3048 yeah, and also the overall aesthetic of the oceanid gives me that kinda vibe
@agnivalahiri9347
@agnivalahiri9347 2 жыл бұрын
India? idk my granny says that lol
@E107J
@E107J 2 жыл бұрын
The thing that's bugging me the most is the colour of the gems on their coats. Maybe it's just a character design decision, but I feel they have some deeper meaning. I thought it could possibly tied to rank: 1 - 5 = white, 6 - 7 = Orange, 8 - 9 = purple and 10 - 11 = red. But Capitano's being black(?) is throwing me off. It could also be tied to skillset/job within the harbingers perhaps? The other thing that I've noticed is that every country seems to have a harbinger who is tied to that country in some way: Mondstadt: Signora, Inazuma: Scaramouche, Sumeru: Dottore, Liyue: Pantalone(?), Fotaine: Sandrone(?) and Khaenriah: Pierro. All except for Natlan. Maybe Capitano is tied to Natlan in some way? But that theory is just process of elimination at this point.
@DemanaJaire
@DemanaJaire 2 жыл бұрын
Scaramouche and Signora don’t have them. I’m pretty sure it’s an afterthought, when they figured out they want to somehow unify Harbingers, so they picked the gem from Childe and made it a thing across all Harbingers. Therefore, the colors are probably just cosmetic.
@Ashikai
@Ashikai 2 жыл бұрын
I have an answer to this actually but it will come in video form.
@knightofcarrion7358
@knightofcarrion7358 2 жыл бұрын
diluc's skin also has it. so cant be rank. it is probably a part of the delusion. maybe to stablize the energy so you dont have ill effects or elemental energy poisoning? you dont need to have a vision to weild it but we know visions can protect against elemental radiation but how do delusion barers protect against it? given that its the harbingers and diluc's delusion skin who has it, I am assuming its something connected to delusions. maybe the colour is how much energy the crystals have absorbed?
@knightofcarrion7358
@knightofcarrion7358 2 жыл бұрын
@@DemanaJaire wouldnt explain why dilucs new skin has smaller versions of these crystals. only thing harbingers and diluc's new skin has in common are delusions.
@canadalovesanime3137
@canadalovesanime3137 2 жыл бұрын
I was also thinking that each region seems to be represented.
@cofeespear4992
@cofeespear4992 2 жыл бұрын
Either way as long as Kaeya and Diluc gets more screentime I'm happy cause they're literally the most connected in the main plot (Lisa and Amber goes as far as Sumeru and Jean's connection only goes as far as the others goes which isn't very far as long as she's acting grand master)
@Picking.a.name.is.hard1
@Picking.a.name.is.hard1 2 жыл бұрын
Kaeya is literally the reason I play this game. I'm in it for the ✨Kaehnriah lore✨
@henoji777
@henoji777 2 жыл бұрын
13:45 SAME as soon as I heard childe say that I didn't go 'papanella' my brain jumped to pulcinella patting teucer on the head going to childe 'we wouldn't want anything to happen to him right?' Also going with the inverted tropes childe's voiceline about capitano makes sense now so I agree. Also I'm not sure if his mask is hollow or just black 🤔 I think the gnoses might have been moved by the tsaritsa because when the knight moves it moves w cryo energy. (Its possible he moved it himself but I'm just here to suggest this alternative) Pierrot gilf confirmed. That theory also makes a lot of sense...I wonder what it was that he pirates from celestia then. Oooo I was wondering what the chess game could be and the fact it was deep blue is so intriguing. Great vid!
@AniMeep
@AniMeep 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Sandrone has something to do with the Maguu Kenki. Because he seems to be controlled by Strings like a marionette. Or if its just a random detail or someone else controlling him. Idk. Just a thought I wanted to talk out. Anyways. Arlecchino best girl-
@N0XEL
@N0XEL 2 жыл бұрын
Maguu Kenki drops marionette cores when defeated, maybe this is actually the case.
@Reaper2410
@Reaper2410 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I know Maguu Kenki has something to do with Ako Domeki who was something like a pirate in inazuma
@queerbunny
@queerbunny 2 жыл бұрын
@@N0XEL oh shit you right
@Dendro_cat
@Dendro_cat 2 жыл бұрын
*Kaguu Menki ;)
@exultantblade50
@exultantblade50 2 жыл бұрын
See, I feel like Sandrone had influenced Inazuma in a way, but there's no good evidence, just potentail... possibility... Like, in Raiden lore 3 it days "For beings with a perishable form of flesh to pursue Eternity, they must first solve the unavoidable problem of lifespan. This limited time troubled Ei greatly, until one day when a mysterious technique came before her eyes as if by a stroke of fate. Using such techniques, one could create intricate puppets indistinguishable from true life." Intricate puppets indistinguishable from true life sounds like Katheryne, but what does "a stroke of fate" meeeaannn
@nightfallsongbird
@nightfallsongbird 2 жыл бұрын
That little side note about all the elf people we’ve seen being short mad me realize that Alice might not have the pyro Lisa literal mommy vibes I’ve been imagining… Although it seems to me like a child or teen model wouldn’t fit her current voice acting (at least in en I haven’t heard the others)
@mcsmouche
@mcsmouche 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for your input on this pv for quite a while, I know it’s going to be worth the wait!
@StanleyG23
@StanleyG23 Жыл бұрын
10:04 "Now, I do concede that this would usually put her around rank 4, I guess..." Man, we were so close to the correct answer even this far back. Crazy.
@migaslz8444
@migaslz8444 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Ive been waiting for this video since you said were making it long! Thank you so much
@Anonymous__S
@Anonymous__S 2 жыл бұрын
Your dramatic presentation of a Dendro slime being set on fire for them to getbout of the ground but with a big tree and a god was so awesome that it actually gave me goosebumps
@adomania_core
@adomania_core 7 ай бұрын
WE NEED AN UPDATED VERSION OF THIS!!!!
@tartnouveau3652
@tartnouveau3652 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s interesting how all the archons so far have allowed the fatui to create chaos in their own nations, despite knowing fully that the tsarista has long been rogue. It seems like the cataclysm has made all the archons disillusioned with Celestia in some way.
@drowsypigeon8114
@drowsypigeon8114 2 жыл бұрын
I think the whole marrying into royalty thing makes sense especially when considering the eye colour of all 4 known kaenri’hans. Kaeya is the only one with a darker blue eye colour which we know is a signifier for familial relationship from barb+jean. It could be possible that only the royals had a darker eye colour and kaeya inherited it from his royal mother as opposed to father. Blue also has connections with the phrase blue-blood referring to royalty so it seems plausible enough.
@wakaitsu
@wakaitsu 2 жыл бұрын
Also a note that both Kaeya and Pierro cover their right eye. Could they be covering some significant mark that could let others recognize them for who they truly are, like, maybe they have a glowing eyes that were a sign of royal blood, or a birthmark that only passed down specific lineage that did something significant, so one covers his eye to not alert his comrades and the other covers his so he won't be tied in with enemy leader. Them both having the same thing to hide would also tie nicely with what Kaeya said about inheriting the eyepatch - "same as children inheriting their parents hair or eye color" aka a genetic trait. While eyepatch itself is just a cover, what underneath that cover is a genetic trait he - through his father - inherited from his granddad. Genetics is a weird thing and sometimes it happens that a certain gene gets to "jump the line" so to speak and only shows itself in the next generation, like, a birthmark that a kid shares with his grandfather but not his father (I actually have that myself, both my parents have bright eyes, but I have dark brown, almost black ones - just like my granddad from father's side). So that would check out.
@amorimjt
@amorimjt 2 жыл бұрын
I was dying waiting for your thoughts on this. Thank you for all the hard work and love to put this amazing video together!
@angelotorrelli7478
@angelotorrelli7478 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a doctor mask, it's a rooster's head. The best analysis I've seen through all in english and spanish. Congrats!
@JohnCivor
@JohnCivor 2 жыл бұрын
I love that the comedia characters are opposite of the harbinger.. their personalities, tropes and motivation are very opposite. And yes i agree that Pierro is kaeya grandfather.. the whole pirate shenanigans story is a lie but i think him telling the traveler that he has a grandfather is true.
@pkmist2164
@pkmist2164 2 жыл бұрын
Capitano's hair gave me more native american warrior vibes tbh. I'm gonna guess he's the harbinger that's going to be from Natlan if Hoyoverse is doing a nationality checklist. The other harbingers don't have any connection to Natlan as far as we know.
@billystokes3917
@billystokes3917 2 жыл бұрын
So Rosalyne from Mondstadt, Scaramouche from Inazuma, Childe from Snezhnaya (spelling), and Pierro from Khaenriah. Pantalone is theorised to be from Liyue, and if what you said is true then that leaves Fontaine and Sumeru. I think Sandrone is from Fontaine, since their entire nation is sort of an industrial/technological marvel compared to the rest. They have hot air balloons and they created the kameras among other things. Sandrone creates "marionettes", puppets, and definitely works on ruin guards. So that leaves Sumeru, and I honestly have no idea who this could be.
@user___name2468
@user___name2468 2 жыл бұрын
@@billystokes3917 im pretty sure dottore is from sumeru
@Unmakyr2001
@Unmakyr2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@user___name2468 yes he’s from sumeru
@aidanalpaslan2456
@aidanalpaslan2456 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, although I have a few comments about Scaramouche's section: 1. I got the complete opposite vibe from Capitano's interaction with Dottore regarding Scara, to me it really did seem like Capitano was going "hey man what the hell are we doing here, you've got a plan right?", and Dottore is indeed a man with a plan so he basically just cryptically responds with essentially "yeah we're good man don't worry I've got this". 2. Following up directly from the previous point, Scaramouche going off the radar with the Gnosis was absolutely not part of the plan, him getting it definitely was, Signora was probably supposed to have a similar negotiation with Raiden as she did with Zhongli. She definitely wasn't supposed to die, and Scara wasn't supposed to ditch the team. If Scara doing what he did truly was all part of the plan, we'd really be dealing with some hard-core "all according to keikaku" vibes that I'd have a pretty hard time suspending my disbelief for. But I do 100% agree his interaction with the Gnosis in general was probably the whole point/plan, so they're kind of on-track with that, but that brings me to my next point. 3. If the endgame for the Fatui in Inazuma was always "get Scara and the Gnosis together so we can study them", then why does Scara even ditch them in the first place? Is it just because he thinks they're all losers, or was there a catch to it that he was already aware of, or could it have been some completely separate reason/influence? Discussion on this would be interesting. 4. Discussion on what exactly we think the "Divine Gaze" is would be been super interesting. Because we've heard that exact phrase before from Yae Miko in the Inazuma Archon Quest, where Raiden replies to it with "You mean Visions?". So does the Divine Gaze have something to do with the giving, or lack thereof, of Electro Visions? Because that plot point was never addressed properly, only referenced vaguely in Raiden's voicelines. Additionally, could this play a role with the Kazuha Electro Vision plotpoint, especially given all the connections between Scara and Kazuha? Food for thought.
@davide.schiaffino
@davide.schiaffino 2 жыл бұрын
I think the point was that even though it wasnt the plan and rathered not be that way, they still expected Scara to not be totally loyal. It wasnt planned, but it was a considered possibility.
@aidanalpaslan2456
@aidanalpaslan2456 2 жыл бұрын
@@davide.schiaffino yeah I definitely understand that line of thought, although it makes me question why Capitano is even questioning Dottore in the first place if they already had a contingency for this possibility of Scara going rogue? I could be over thinking it though, maybe the contingency plan was just left mostly in the hands of Dottore and the others are on a need-to-know basis, so basically not everyone knows everything that is going on barring the Tsaritsa and Pierro probably.
@davide.schiaffino
@davide.schiaffino 2 жыл бұрын
@@aidanalpaslan2456 Maybe they put the responsibility of Scara on Dottore's shoulders, but the Harbingers don't really trust him either. He might have standing but he is probably the most shady, and they know it.
@captainpeanut6427
@captainpeanut6427 2 жыл бұрын
To the point about Scaramouche's reason for ditching the Fatui: I'm pretty sure he doesn't think very much of them. According to the text on the pale flame set, he is an incredibly arrogant being who considers himself "a 'human' who surpasses all others". Also, he just joined the Fatui for fun. He doesn't seem to particularly care about anything at all other than himself.
@MrVidau
@MrVidau 2 жыл бұрын
I hope this is the first of many responses against leaks. If Hoyo didn't leave us so thirsty for content, we probably wouldn't be so inclined to look for leaks. This trailer was the best drip marketing that they've put out and it shook the entire comunity to the core. And I'm living for it.
@toldiner
@toldiner 2 жыл бұрын
YESSS I WAS WAITING FOR THIS I CANT WAIT TO WATCH!!!
@eduardogarcia6318
@eduardogarcia6318 8 ай бұрын
It's incredible to watch this after all this time, and find out how much was right, and how much we actually had so ahead of time. This is awesome even after a year!!!
@-nery-
@-nery- 2 жыл бұрын
a little thought: what if Pierro didn't only or necessarily meant the sages of Sumeru, but the sages of Kaenri'ah too? Considering sages r often associated with not only magic but also faith, the abyss faith (lectors, higher ranking monsters) might be said sages that also think they know a deeper truth and hunt for proof (like enjou and "before sun and moon")... thx for the great vid
@sirnakai6839
@sirnakai6839 2 жыл бұрын
Just got recommended this video. You knocked it out of the park with Kathrine
@Gkvalhalla
@Gkvalhalla 2 жыл бұрын
Kaeya the last princes of Khaenri'ah... Pierro, Kaeya's Grandfather. A new world....created by the harbingers. "The Harbinger of Dawn" a very specific named weapon received from kaeya's quest "Inherited an eye-patch from his grandfather" [So he REMEMBERS his Grandfather perfectly AND the Catastrophe of Khaenri"ah.] Kaeya not knowing what the fatui is up too is probably part of the Strategy....To survive he has to blend in, to blend in what better way but being oblivious to the actions of your organization. Blend in, become their friend, care for them and do right by them....but never forget. YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM." Somewhere Deep inside Kaeya Still probably Despises the gods, but as to not incur their wrath he adopted the personality he has. Mona: "He believes he made a clean break from his past, but one day fate will catch up to him. When it does he has a major decision to make" THE HARBINGER OF DAWN Kaeya has to choose between staying oblivious to his past Or to slay the heavens and bring about the Dawn of a New world." Well I Connected it all.
@AlifZabidi
@AlifZabidi 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the Winter's Night Lazzo video released, I was most excited to see a lore video from Ashikai, and boy was I not disappointed 😁
@Maya-bb1ne
@Maya-bb1ne 2 жыл бұрын
After watching the trailer my thought was "What if Pierro is Kaeya's grandpa?" I searched reddit but couldn't find anything.Glad to know that you are also considering the possibility.
@user-ek7lx4wx4b
@user-ek7lx4wx4b 8 ай бұрын
crazy that you said arlecchino would be 4 and dottore 2 but scrapped the idea and then it was their actual ranking. lmfaoo
@selpyar8230
@selpyar8230 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know back story or lore of the name but I really get Akatsuki vibe from fatui. Look at those coat! The whole funeral look like Akatsuki meeting and their goal to collect all genosis parallel with collecting tail beasts. I really like this vibe and hope to see more from Fatuis in future.
@sabrexi7228
@sabrexi7228 2 жыл бұрын
From a quick look on Google, it looks like Pierro was a French addition to the Commedia dell’arte. Although we already have a France-inspired nation, it fits with Pierro’s whole Khaenri’ah thing, since everyone else is from Tevyat, he’s the only outlier
@karinano1stan
@karinano1stan Жыл бұрын
columbina is possibly a descender
@WalesRebel
@WalesRebel 2 жыл бұрын
OMG YESS THE MOMENT WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR This is the best day ever THANK YOUUU ❤️❤️❤️
@travellingwaniisa6177
@travellingwaniisa6177 2 жыл бұрын
If this is just the begginning of you cracking open the Fatui egg then I can't wait to see what comes after!! I love the way you break these things down 'cause lordy knows I never can get it all out so I come to your channel and I'm like "YES, that's what I thought too! I just couldn't find words for it!" and you make me feel somewhat sane in this crazy game world we've fallen into. Also, thanks to you I've learned so much more than I counted on and my worldview is growing again too! So many great things are coming from this game and from finding your videos here, I just love every second of it - thank you so much
@sassyfrenchpotato
@sassyfrenchpotato 2 жыл бұрын
Also... To add to Sandrone and Katherine theory, her corsetry center piece looks like the quote on quote "herrscher of domination" symbol, which combined to the marionette theme and the hive-mind the Katherines share is pretty likely that she created them and use them as the primary source of surveillance
@ohwow5171
@ohwow5171 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreaciate all the hard work you put into researching for these videos! I’ve never been more interested in the Genshin lore than now. So much cool stuff is ahead of us with the fatui.
@fish-lg4lp
@fish-lg4lp 2 жыл бұрын
i absolutely LOVE the idea that dottore set that mysterious tree on fire to lure something (or someone) out of hiding
@typo-_
@typo-_ 2 жыл бұрын
Here comes Il Dottore being the 2nd fatui harbinger now..
@theghostinme3877
@theghostinme3877 2 жыл бұрын
Want to point out that the cryo gnosis isn’t on the chess board with Pierro. That implies that the Tsaritsa is still hanging onto her gnosis, and that it may be the last one to be placed on the board, once she’s collected the 6 others.
@iaepis2616
@iaepis2616 2 жыл бұрын
I love listening to your theories while farming in genshin your videos are soo good!!
@storymap
@storymap 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Columbina ends up showing interest in Traveller and stalk him/her. Childe would wonder why Traveller ends up involved with her. Considering that she's presumably the dove, I don't see it not impossible.
@Hunter635_
@Hunter635_ 2 жыл бұрын
I think that very possible cuz i think she is a girl with a kid personality i mean She acts like a kid and just does whatever she wants. If she find something interesting she will go for it or so I see it at least for now. i mean look at her sleeping on the coffin and singing that is very kid thing to do ( after sometime i changed my opinion i don't think that she have kid personality but she is kind of person who will do just what he wants and doesn't care about anything that dont interest her)
@storymap
@storymap 2 жыл бұрын
You know what? What if that's the reason why Childe instinctively avoids her?
@Hunter635_
@Hunter635_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@storymap i wish if he said more about her personality
@thebeidussygotme3048
@thebeidussygotme3048 2 жыл бұрын
she seems like a hidden ace card of the fatui so comparing her to a kid is underestimating Colombina which is what they want you to do. even Childe is hesitant on fighting her because he knows she's suspicious - that she's more than meets the eye. it is worth noting from leaks, it was told that Columbia's emotional range is limited. so her reaction might not be what we usually expect others to do. that's why she is so difficult to read as a character from just the teaser
@lihilnza2462
@lihilnza2462 2 жыл бұрын
why are you so obsessed on insisting she's a kid? 🙄 i doubt that she had made it to the higher ranks with having the intelligence of a kid even if she was super strong. she probably just very creepy and unnerving just like shinobu from kny. i doubt she's even human.
@dannypeixoto8435
@dannypeixoto8435 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Ashikai! Love the Kaeya connection, def believe the grandfather (or at least some relation) theory. Man the clip changed everything!
@cosmozpictures
@cosmozpictures 2 жыл бұрын
the "Dottore suggested to create a god" thing is suddenly so relevant now that 3.2 update got out lmaoo
@touchedme1637
@touchedme1637 Жыл бұрын
This aged well for your Pantalone guess. He is, indeed, very close/works closely to Dottore. In which our hat wearing gremlin says is definitely not a good idea. Outstanding once again, Ashikaii.
@HiTwoBah
@HiTwoBah 2 жыл бұрын
I had a similar thought in the folly in Sumeru coming from the Fatui. And looking at the chess board, of the electro gnosis is a knight, it's possible the Dendro gnosis is as well, and if all the pieces in the board represent current players, then the holder of the Dendro gnosis is also on the side of the Fatui, which would be really interesting. This is also influenced by the rooks, of which one is Zhongli's, which we assume was the white side, and the remaining is black, which is possibly the Cryo gnosis. Since the Czaritsa is definitely on the Fatui side, that makes sense to be her. So, it's possible the Fatui are the folly in Sumeru, and that's why the archon makes no move to stop it.
@cocoplayax
@cocoplayax 2 жыл бұрын
Ashikai, you’re so big brained like I’m so amazed at how you put two and two together. Great job!
@UberWraith
@UberWraith 2 жыл бұрын
The more time passes from the first time I saw the Trailer, the more I believe that Sandrone = petite lady is actually a red herring and the REAL Sandrone is the Ruin Guard 'butler'. The Katherynes could easily be mass-produced robots based on the small petite lady who resembles them, while the 'Ruin Guard' could be a sentient machine from Khaenri'ah (think of Johnny No.5 from the Short Circuit movies) who is effectively trying to build himself a family (Sandrone, as you said, is a male character with a wife and a kid). Also, the whole pose of the duo screams 'Ventriloquist with his Puppet' to me... Of course it could simply be that she is a mechanic from Fontaine who started tinkering with Ruin Guards and Khaenri'an Puppets but it seems so... plain and basic to me (a thing than HoYo rarely does).
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 2 жыл бұрын
From what I'd seen in other media, I immediately noted that the "real Sandrone" could be either of them. They could also be a third entity and _both_ are puppets, but that's unlikely given the occasion. Knowing how insane the Futui seem to be, I instantly jumped to the craziest explanation, which is that Sandrone _used_ to be the girl, but then transferred her brain or mind into the ruin guard and upgraded her original body so that she could remotely control it from her new body. The fact that I've actually seen anything remotely like this does make me question the kind of media I consume. Why _have_ I run into remotely piloted human bodies‽
@Eclipsed_Embers
@Eclipsed_Embers 2 жыл бұрын
one thing I feel the need to point out is that Sandrone's title is Marionette, not puppeteer, as a result the fact that she is framed as the puppet, or rather the marionette, in the pair actually makes it seem a little more likely that she's the real deal. one idea that I've seen thrown around is that Sandrone might not be able to walk and therefore relies on the Ruin Guard to carry her around, could be a pretty neat and unique thing if she becomes playable.
@insanecurity
@insanecurity 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw Pulcinella I instantly thought about Klee... And the fact he has Hilichurl-style imagery on his hat kinda ties him to Khaenri'ah. What if, Alice saying they belong to an ancient race, these elfs were like... idk house elfs to the Khaenriahns lol. I know it sounds really bad but him being someone who likes to take care of people? Like Childe? Maybe it's what his ancestors used to do back in the day.
@julymirandilla5928
@julymirandilla5928 2 жыл бұрын
This gurl straight up predicted what Katherine is 😱😱😱
@TanjasSchreibflausen
@TanjasSchreibflausen 2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm very excited for 3.0! I didn't even notice that this was a 41 minute video because I was so fascinated from all of your thoughts. Thanks for the analysis!
@hamakazeKC
@hamakazeKC 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! Really looking to see what more we learn once we get to go to Sumeru.
@leilaledbetter7963
@leilaledbetter7963 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and theory-crafting so much. I find them endlessly fascinating and entertaining. Thank you for all the hard work and brainpower you put into them.
@ghostrose11
@ghostrose11 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! When you were speaking about the plan to possibly rewind time and re-do the battle with Celestia, it made me think of the chess reference again. That's maybe why it doesn't end with checkmate, because the board can be reset to play another match. kind of rewinding time with the loom of fate, and changing the outcome. could be completely unrelated but it made me think of the chess referencing. I find the Harbingers very interesting
@jordanmayne2270
@jordanmayne2270 Жыл бұрын
The way how dottore is the 2nd of the fatui harbingers but I just love how she can connect dots she is so talented
@momsaccount4033
@momsaccount4033 2 жыл бұрын
Now, I know people are saying that this trailer shows La Signora’s funeral (and it definitely is) and that she’ll never be playable as a result, because she dead. I however have an argument for why she could return as a character. Don’t worry, I am not smoking copium, I definitely think it’d be cool if Signora stayed dead and that her character would echo in ways that involve her past actions. However, she still could theoretically come back. Signora is the 8th of the Fatui Harbingers. In Biblical Numerology, the number 8 stands for “new life” and “resurrection” as all of us who watch Ashikai should know by now. The implication here comes from two different things, the first being that Rosalyne was a completely different person who changed when she became a Harbinger. She used to be very kind, but turned cold and hateful after her lover died during the Cataclysm. The theme of “resurrection” also references how, in her boss battle, she encases herself in a “cocoon” of ice before emerging as a moth in her second phase. Now, what do we see in the teaser? We see the coffin, representative of Signora, being incased in ice as the whole cathedral freezes over, foreshadowed by the curtains freezing at their ends in an earlier scene. This is most definitely not Zapolyarny Palace as I think most other people assume. Instead, it is likely either an important cathedral or a cathedral built specifically for Signora’s funeral, which goes to show just how much importance the Harbingers treat Signora’s death, well, the Harbingers besides Pulcinella, Dotorre, and maybe Pantalone. They freeze over an entire cathedral just for the ceremony. But did you notice that? They freeze over the cathedral. Freeze over, incased in ice, as if it were a cocoon… I predict that we might see this frozen-over cathedral in-game whenever we get access to Snezhnaya, and that during the events of the story, Signora will return. It’ll make sense for her to return at this point in the story too since out of all the Fatui Harbingers, Signora is the one who is most heavily tied to the Cataclysm in terms of the lore and her character’s backstory. It’d thematically make sense for her to come back near the part of the story where Khanrei’ah and Celestia are going to be taking the most prominent roles. Another reason why her return at that point would thematically make sense is because Signora is the very first Harbinger we meet in the game. For her to reappear as one of the more important ones plot-wise near the end would make a lot of sense. It’d be the ultimate fulfillment of what Signora’s character is. Resurrection, and vengeance. Whether or not she’d be our ally at that time, hard to say, but if that’s how HOYOVERSE plans to use her character, I’m all for it.
@ducktk
@ducktk 2 жыл бұрын
if something else doesn’t happen with signora I’d be kinda disappointed. I mean, a lot of people would be eager to pull for her. also, like you said, it does make sense.... I guess if that isn’t the plan they could just be saving it for when the game dies. a signora comeback would do a lot for them.
@nicholasvogel9783
@nicholasvogel9783 2 жыл бұрын
I will wait for when we reach the windless zone, as that where i think she will be back
@TJ-yc1zq
@TJ-yc1zq 2 жыл бұрын
I think yall bringing the revival symbolism are getting the wrong idea.. she HAS already revived once. Once she was a maiden named rosalyne who burned herself to death upon her lover's demise AND then she revived as the crimson witch of flames symbolizing moth to burn all the monsters in the world. I don't think there is any way for her to revive twice , this trailer was a good enough closure to the sad life of Rosalyne. Let's just let her rest in peace with her lover now
@momsaccount4033
@momsaccount4033 2 жыл бұрын
@@TJ-yc1zq I understand that very well, which is why I already mentioned it. I do think this trailer would act as a very good closure to Rosalyne’s story, but there are also arguments that could be made against that that I am willing to support. For example, why is this supposed important plot moment shown off in a trailer and not in-game? You could argue that Genshin’s promotional material is an integral part of the experience unlike other games, as evidenced by Kamisato Ayato’s character demo adding to the story. In this conversation, the argument goes both ways. Because we’re speculating, neither side is right or wrong. I just want to entertain a possibility most others I believe aren’t thinking about right now because the thematic evidence is there
@adrianaalfaro5631
@adrianaalfaro5631 2 жыл бұрын
yes YES, I was waiting for you to do a reaction/theory video when Hoyoverse dropped the harbinger video. Honestly impressed with how spot on you were in your other harbinger theory video, your gut seems to guide you in the right direction lol (: Great work as always !
@GUILHERME-xx5fe
@GUILHERME-xx5fe 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see the interaction between Pierro and Lumine(the abyss twin) cause she wants to resurrect Khaeriah and even though he is one the resurrection of the nation is not something he desires, not to mention the fatui despises the abyss order as much as Celestia
@josemiguelojeda6364
@josemiguelojeda6364 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been really excited to get your take on the teaser :) you never disappoint
@spaghettiwolf5610
@spaghettiwolf5610 2 жыл бұрын
The Sandrone Katheryn theory blew my mind. We might have been working under the surveillance of the fatui the entire time...
@stafanefinna5987
@stafanefinna5987 Жыл бұрын
This video is amazing to watch with Baizhu coming out soon. I cannot wait to listen to your Baizhu analysis video! They are as always, amazing! Keep up the good work! :)
@Psycorde
@Psycorde 2 жыл бұрын
Sandrone being connected to Katheryne would make a lot of sense. And might also shed some light on her role - a puppeteer who manipulates adventurers (and even protagonists) into doing all kinds of things that might benefit their cause and gather intel all over the world
@CakeCrab
@CakeCrab 2 жыл бұрын
The thing about Snezhnaya having a similar style to the unified civ is really really interesting. Like what if it's actually like Khaenri'ah, The Chasm and Enkanomiya, and how does the Tsaritsa connect to that
@dtalkzz3347
@dtalkzz3347 5 ай бұрын
10:23 lol she predicted arlechino is #4 n then said nah it wont be
@tjsan5856
@tjsan5856 2 жыл бұрын
You’re the first creator I’m eager to check after the Fatui reveal. Stay awesome . 💙😊
@jaxie8593
@jaxie8593 2 жыл бұрын
im here after finding out that dottore is the 2nd harbinger
@Miss9PM
@Miss9PM 2 жыл бұрын
I really was blowed away with the chess analysis!!! Great work as always!
@u.r.v.bharadwaj427
@u.r.v.bharadwaj427 2 жыл бұрын
Pierro's old world is also described in shivada jade gem's description. Basically the tsaritsa ( assuming the one talking in the description ) is asking us to burn the old world together with her. Could it be the current Teyvat, or Celestia?
@philfernley
@philfernley 2 жыл бұрын
You are the Genshin Impact version of ContraPoints. These essays and your Channel in general deserves so much exposure.
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