Ashley's Analysis | Motorbike Hits Pedestrian

When a pedestrian steps out into the road without looking it's obviously very serious. In the end this lady was very lucky! Please check out the original clip • Pedestrian 0, me also 0 and a BIG thanks to Cam for sending it in for analysis.
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[@AAARREUUUGHHHH]

I bet that started hurting a heck of a lot more when the adrenaline stopped flowing

[@cogidubnus1953]

Good...that way she'll perhaps appreciate what a cheap lesson she's just had...she's lucky to be alive and hurting and ought to be rethinking her priorities...

[@Engineer9736]

She didn’t even see the impact coming, so there was no adrenaline yet. So if she had something to feel pain for, she would have felt it. But the way she just walked away makes me think she has something wrong between her ears. No normal person would do that. A normal person would either apologise and/or ask if he’s ok, or be angry, depending on the interpretation of the cause of the crash. Maybe she has relations with crime and doesn’t want to be in the spotlight.

[@dhvsheabdh]

@@cogidubnus1953 Hopefully she appreciates this pain and looks next time. Like Ash said, she's lucky to be alive. Lucky he was doing 26. Lucky he hit her how he did, and landed how she did.

[@2RayneR7]

Yep that's correct. I got hit by a car once and I jumped up and started walking. You kinda can't think because of the adrenaline and stress. You just keep going and you are only happy that your legs function. I realized that I'm in pain and what happened an hour or so later.

[@paulcook7426]

Correct. I came off my bike (entirely my own fault and no-one else involved) but it only took an eyewitness to at least get me some help for me not to just get on my bike and make my own way home before going to hospital. In the end she helped get an ambulance and I needed spinal x-rays and some form of skin surgery. It's very difficult to gauge how we'd react in the immediate aftermath of an incident when you're not thinking entirely logically.

[@ldeguzman]

There’s only so much the rider can do. This was definitely the pedestrian’s fault.

[@marklittler784]

The rider could use the lane away from the pedestrian on approach and observe whether the pedestrian is looking in their direction on approach and use horn speed and positioning accordingly, the van limited the time the pedestrian was in view for otherwise the motorcyclist could have left lane changing till after the crossing.

[@TheExplodingBacon]

@@marklittler784 the rider didn't have much space between the walking and the bus

[@NeoGee]

@@marklittler784 Ashley covered the motorcyclist's lane positioning and pronounced it good, you're just talking out of your ass. Saying the motorcyclist should have stayed in the lane blocked by a bus and used their horn in expectation of something that *might* have been ahead is just silly. The pedestrian did not look to their left at all until a fraction of a second before the impact whereas the motorcyclist was traveling at 26 mph through a green light and no amount of spin doctoring will make your suggestions make any sense.

[@marklittler784]

@@NeoGee People have been running for buses for a hundred years now so that shouldn't be an unexpected surprise especially someone moving briskly towards it and not looking at you, pedestrian crossing or no pedestrian crossing someone walking briskly towards the road not looking at you needs a blast of the horn which causes no accidents or financial costs whatsoever, if in doubt blast your horn !

[@marklittler784]

@@bardiche1989 That's true though I rode a racing cycle as a kid everywhere at 45mph, the pedestrians obviously also have problems seeing bicycles and motorbikes as well as car drivers all the more reason to wear high viz.

[@lomar4172]

It’s the pedestrian fault for crossing at a green light she was lucky, you need to be careful when crossing the road

[@1ninjatiger]

Its not illegal to cross when the light is green for traffic. Obviously checking its clear would have been a good idea.

[@taylorcarter831]

@Miles Coverdale I hate it when people have that kind of attitude. Even an emergency stop still takes a few seconds, it takes no time to check that the road is clear.

[@CallMeMrRook]

@@1ninjatiger I don't feel the OP was questioning crossing against the lights ie the red man. For me she had twice the distance to cover as a dual carriageway and as much as she was trying a mini sprint, what would it have taken to press the button and wait? Rider clearly shows traffic had the green light. She was a walking injury waiting to happen.

[@1ninjatiger]

CallMeMrRook he said ‘pedestrians fault for crossing at green light’ Yes it was her fault lights had nothing to do with it. She should have looked. She was running for a bus hence no stopping to press and wait for lights to change.

[@OrphansCorpse]

@@1ninjatiger No one said it was illegal... Also, the lights are to do with it because I don't know if you know what green and red lights mean ? If the light is green, it means traffic can flow, which equals in stopping to look before crossing.

[@OriginalSycan]

"Sorry I didn't see you I was running for the bus" is what I heard her say

[@marklittler784]

Well at least she can see buses 😃

[@theindiediary5950]

Risks dying to get a bus. Makes sense.....

[@Lumibear.]

And I don’t think she blames the motorist, I think she’s ashamed, she knows she did wrong, she runs away to try and leave it behind. Alas, cameras, internet...

[@marklittler784]

@@theindiediary5950 Yeah a bus clearly visible in your rear view mirrors behind you, that someone in front of you, may want to run and catch like other passengers for the last hundred years !

[@alexbainbridge7160]

OriginalSycan same exactly

[@Tryonus]

As she walked away from the accident, "leaving the scene", isn't that just the same as a hit and run? i hope the motor biker contacted the police.

[@bendoy4555]

Not under the Road Traffic Act s170, as she is not a driver of a mechanically propelled vehicle.

[@gordon861]

@@bendoy4555 I thought if someone was injured there was a legal requirement to report it to the police and exchange details.

[@middler5]

@@gordon861 They'll just say they weren't injured.

[@gordon861]

@@middler5 I bet the rider will be in some form of pain after this, you hit the road you nearly always hurt something, so someone was injured.

[@bertalanlovasz7512]

Just woman ...she font give a fuck, she is on a hurry. Everyone else can fuck off

[@YorkshireD1]

Its time to bring back the green cross code man... For adults.

[@hikaru9624]

Yep.

[@gerardmontgomery280]

I'm shocked at how many adults try to cross from behind parked vans or who just walk out without looking.

[@jasonsensation46]

100% so many brain dead adults crossing the roads!!

[@phil955i]

I think they stopped educating kids on road safety 30-odd years ago?

[@elliotpole2585]

A pedestrian is still a road user, she must always look constantly. It wasn’t a nice clip but does highlight the danger pedestrians can cause

[@elliotpole2585]

Miles Coverdale completely agree mate, she wasn’t looking or paying attention

[@agnesmazs5008]

I was run over when I was 3 totally my fault but the police tried to get my mum to say it was the driver (I let go my mums hand) 50 years later and I still agree with my mum

[@bluehornet197]

@@agnesmazs5008 no it was your mothers fault yes you let go but you were 3 you were a toddler lol she knew not to let you let go of her hand and she still allowed you to let go and get hit by a car its her fault

[@bluehornet197]

A pedestrian isnt a road user lol 🤣🤣🤣 a road user is anyone on or in a vehicle google it

[@bluehornet197]

@EL JAY bro this is a 2yr old comment section idk why you're responding to this

[@ShebaandMelinda]

I've seen this clip before, when she's walking off she says "I've got to get the bus"

[@drummonkeystuffuk1875]

Typical, almost gets killed, wipes out a biker by being careless, then doesn't even ask the biker if he's ok...Because herself and missing the bus is more important, we all know what she'd do if an apocalypse begun..."Sorry I need to catch the bus - you lot can fend for yourselves" Pure selfishness.

[@kABUSE1]

And now reverse the genders and we would have a shitstorm going on here. Would have 100% called the cops on her for "hit and run".

[@steriskyline4470]

kABUSE what?! 😂 even with the genders reversed it’s still the pedestrians fault. Stop trying your hardest to be offended over something pathetic.

[@hikaru9624]

So she risked life and limb to catch a bus? ....fma I'd sooner be late than take a stupid gamble like that!!

[@UltimateWarrior206]

@@kABUSE1 lol what. The women run off in this clip. The IQ of feminism never ceases to amaze me. Someone reading too much Guardian newspapers.

[@andwestuk]

You've got to admire her enthusiasm to get to work on time whatever happens !!

[@adamholmes91]

Seem these days too many people have forgot the "stop ,look ,listen, live" saying.

[@josephmarsh8235]

This is definitely true. You mean those TV hedgehog adverts? I even had posters up at school 15 years ago

[@bluehornet197]

Yep they have kids aren't taught to look before crossing I haven't seen adverts for it since the late 90s here in Australia but i am now goo g to look out for it more

[@thomaswarren2699]

Biker bro had some pretty cat-like reflexes to land on his feet like that! There was no way he had the grip to brake hard or swerve, look how shiny the road surface is

[@davidcox5813]

She walked off who's paying for the damage

[@ollieg4169]

4:03 It was at this moment that she knew... she f*cked up

[@Zvalgryn]

She's actually probably too dumb to know she fucked up.

[@TheIceMurder2]

More like 3:56 because at 4:03 it looks like she had turned away slightly and had accepted her fate.

[@stahlschorsch]

The girl probably checked her left for approaching traffic earlier and saw the car and the white van and nothing behind that van. So she waited for the van to pass and then crossed the street without checking a second time. Because of the motorcyclist's lane positioning (which, from his perspective is of course the best way to do, like stated in the video as well) and the fact that he just changed lanes, the girl didn't see him earlier, so she assumed it's save to go. I had a similar occasion where a pedestrian didn't saw me and my car approaching cause I was in the other lane as the van driving infront of me and was just changing the lane behind the van (just like in the video). The guy luckily checked again when he took the first step and managed to stop, cause I wouldn't have made it. At that time I had a car without anti-lock braking system on a wet road, I came to a stop about a car length past him. People tend to rely on what they see (or don't see) and therefore neglect to check again if things are still the way they assume. That's why these kind of videos are important. When one person sees this and and manages to take it to heart and transfer it to their own actions, the video already was worth it. So keep up the good work!

[@Astandane]

This is also why loud pipes can save lives.

[@TheLondonCyclist]

I didn't see you, I was running for the bus (did she say?) Lol then she casually walks off and gets the bus? The geeza should have held her and made her pay for any damages after calling the police.

[@Tryonus]

As i understand the biker couldn't have held her, as chances are she would have struggled against him, which in turn (believe it or not) would have gotten him into trouble with the police for illegal detaining and possible Kidnap.

[@desirefusion532]

Tryonus you can make a legal citizens arrest in the uk

[@TheLondonCyclist]

@@Tryonus No. It would fall under citizen's arrest.

[@MarcoTheGreat2008]

@@desirefusion532 Nobody in their right mind is going to try and make a citizens arrest over an incident like this. That would be a ridiculous escalation

[@eddiegremlin]

Went to run for a bus and almost caught a coroners van...

[@tommillard4193]

She's lucky it was a motorcycle that was doing the speed limit imagine if it was a car , van or lorry cause even at the speed limit she wouldn't have walked away relatively fine

[@TheFelicityWildcams]

Sees the bus pull in and gets tunnel vision wanting to catch it. Crazy how people will risk their lives to not wait 10 minutes for the next bus.

[@Tecorsuh]

There was 1.16 seconds(35 frames) from the moment she took her first step into the road(when the back bumper of the white van passes her) to the bike hitting her. At ~26 mph, taking into account the biker had started breaking, that comes out to ~15 meters(~50 feet). Even in optimal conditions, that shouldn't be enough to come to a complete stop. For a motorcycle in dry conditions, good visibility, and in good working order, it should take ~18 meters(~60 feet) to come to a complete stop from ~26 mph. Take into account that the road top looks a bit wet, there wasn't a glimmer of hope he could come to a complete stop safely before he hit her. Realistically, the biker probably didn't see her until she was fully into the road, which would be 930 ms(28 frames) until impact, which is ~11 meters(~35 feet).

[@LEWIS1992]

metres, not meters.

[@nooaparkatti4571]

@@LEWIS1992 I know this is an old comment but as someone who studies English I just had to note that both ways of spelling it are correct. There is just some regional variance between countries and areas of countries. I mean absolutely no offense with this, just wanted to say it :)

[@kevinirlen3764]

that's why it's a good idea to slow down even when you see the green light. Some pedestrian don't care about that and they just cross. This video gives me the creep, but great analysis. IMHO, the pedestrian is 100% at fault. Glad she's been able to get up though.

[@leesullivan1916]

Well the person of blame is her without question. I'd love to know what his insurance said, as she somehow managed to get up and walk away.... stupid and very selfish actions on her part..

[@MarcoTheGreat2008]

She probably got the fright of her life and no wonder. She made a mistake but everyone does. Jesus lol the last thing on her mind is insurance for a scraped fairing

[@kennyforgot83]

Bit more than a mistake, she has just caused an collision. She doesn't know if the biker is ok never mind how much the damage is she has just caused, she just walks off thinking about her own hide

[@MarcoTheGreat2008]

@@kennyforgot83 Mate she got launched through the air, possibly couple of broken bones there, the biker did a hop skip and landed on his feet lol

[@edwardpurkis1084]

Mark H And the forks need re-aligning, they may be leaking and need replacing, the tank could be split the exhaust bust, the bars bent, levers broken rear brake leaver bust.... bikes can be very expensive to fix from a little crash.

[@ActualPrey]

Edward Purkis - I once made the mistake of letting a careless and impatient driver off with a stern telling off after she walloped me off my bike thinking that the damage I had was minimal. Nope - after getting home and looking at how much a bent gear lever, scratched panel and lost fluid from my coolant reservoir was I was about £300+ out of pocket. Lesson learned. Always take the details and make the claim.

[@i7voskilli560]

Everyone needs a dashcam nower days, it's sad but true. So many careless pedestrians and so many people don't understand the most powerful potential weapon you can own is a car.

[@Stettafire]

Agreed. On a driving lesson pedestrian stepped out in front of me. It was early on in my driving learning so I froze like WTF do I do??? I was in shock while my instructor slammed on the breaks. Bad enough to step out in front of a car, just plain stupid to step out in front of a LEARNER car. On the plus side, I've since learned how to do emergency stops now, avoided a few accidents now without my instructor having to respond.

[@AleyinMica]

And the saddest part is, pedestrians and even cyclist are playing russian roulette by being careless (like this girl stepping out without watching. It could have been a normal car or worse a 7.5 ton or heavier truck) or forcing their "right" like cyclist stopping left or right in the real blind spot of a truck that is indicating left or right to turn on a red light and once it becomes green the cyclist starts moving off and wonders why he gets run over by the truck.

[@AlexBell1991]

One of the things I plan to buy when I get my test passed and car sorted

[@marklittler784]

@@AleyinMica Yeah but that's your clue the fact she's walking towards the road whilst not watching the approaching traffic, like the kid running for the ice cream van.

[@GrahamA63]

Good analysis...On a similar topic - We have a fundamental problem with pedestrian crossings and especially Zebra crossings in the UK; the traffic light/balesha beacon poles hide anybody waiting to cross. Look at Zebra crossings in particular - the pole is clearly on the wrong side of the crossing. People are hard to see during the day but become totally invisible at night...

[@adamboyd348]

Perhaps she checked left before crossing at a time where the motorcyclist was hidden, just goes to show why making a final check both directions is so important. Keep the videos coming!

[@monicaaaaah]

Yeah I agree she must have thought "ill go for it after this white van" and then just ran for it without the final check

[@dixie_rekd9601]

yeah tbh ,you should be looking whilst crossing.

[@lordlucan7655]

the first time i see her actually looking is just becore the motorbike collides with her .. WTF ever happened to the Green Cross Code ? Let’s suppose it wasn’t a motorbike but a 40 tonne truck ?

[@Anonymous-vh6kp]

I agree, combine that with the fact that the sun is in her eyes and the fact that bikes are much less visible than the majority of vehicles on the road, you start to understand how this could have happened. Of course it is still her fault because she did not have right of way, and the bike did not do anything illegal that would have prevented her from seeing him i.e. speeding.

[@lordlucan7655]

Anonymous what has speed got to do with this .. Just another stupid little girl who didn’t get her arse spanked enough as a kid and now thinks she can waltz about willy nilly causing accidents then walk away ... what a out damage to the bike ? who will cover this , and let’s also assume if this is how she crosses the road on foot then what is she like begind the wheel ? raises serious questions about motorists and bikers getting told to slow down etc .. there should be a campaign to impose fines on idiot pedestrians ...

[@Skydiver1000]

At the very least the pedestrian has just caused criminal damage to the motorcycle. She walked out on her red light.

[@Zeyr01]

😂 1. Intent? No 2. Reckless? Debatable. 3. A woman? Yes. Not guilty 100%

[@princeofdenmark9142]

@@Zeyr01 100% true

[@Ben-ht2cv]

@@Zeyr01 Reckless debatable? Don't you check the road before crossing? What planet are you living on 😂

[@Zeyr01]

@@Ben-ht2cv More like what planet are you living on? You obviously know nothing about the court system. You could totally defend the recklessness of this situation 100 times over and get a not guilty.

[@Ben-ht2cv]

@@Zeyr01 Exactly which precedent or grounds would you argue culpability on behalf of the driver when the individual literally walks into traffic without checking either direction giving the driver no opportunity to stop or even slow down fast enough to avoid a collision?

[@konradabel2353]

There's way too many pedestrians kicking about that just don't know how to cross a road safely. It's almost as if the Green Cross Code man has skipped a couple of generations. Bring back Dave Prowse.

[@Asdayasman]

Bring back them hedgehogs! "🎶 WoooOOOOOOOOooOOOOOooooo🎶"

[@richardgadsby9060]

@@Asdayasman Bring back Tufty The Squirrel!

[@marklittler784]

I blast out music in city centres consequently rarely get pedestrians walking out in front of me.

[@loc4725]

@@marklittler784 This is one of the reasons why some motorbikes are so loud. Other than customer demand ("loud = more power", apparently) the other is to warn road users of an approaching bike.

[@mydogeatspuke]

They don't teach it at schools anymore. I'm not sure how long it's been since it was removed, but kids up to at least 15 have never even heard of it. Can't speak for the rest of the country obviously, but oop norf at least.

[@antman5474]

She wanted to catch the bus behind the motorcycle but didn't think she'd make it in time. So she delays the bus by knocking the motorcycle over in front of it thus buying just enough time to make it to the bus stop. Genius

[@joopjansen9102]

Frankly, I find it unbelievable that the girl just walks off, _never asking if there's any damage_ and thereby implying that she puts the blame squarely at the rider. But like you said: her just buggering off (fleeing the scene of an accident) is typical for the state of oblivion she apparently was in. People do strange things instinctively, but her basic attitude appears to be "not my fault, not my problem". She forgot about the cam though - and the busload of onwatchers...

[@drfell9105]

Well the rider didn't seem to give two shits about the woman he had just hit, regardless of blame. If I had been in that situation I would have immediately checked on the person I had hit. It blows my mind that he said nothing until she walked off.

[@samedman1]

If that pedestrian just walked off like that here in the Netherlands, she would have been in prison for walking away after a vehicle incident and not giving details for insurance. How rude.

[@ghostalpha2886]

The type of pedestrians that annoy me as both a driver and a part-time cyclist (when they cross the road): 1. Face glued to the phone - No ability to see other road users at all if they're only focused on their mobile phone. 2. Headphones in both ears/covering both ears and as a result they just carry on walking forward, oblivious to whatever is on the road. 3. The ones that despite having no headphones in and no phone to be looking at, they just nonchalantly go out on the crossing and then an incident similar to what the video shows ensues. 4. The one that would fit in with 1, 2 or 3, but have the audacity to blame a driver, motorcyclist or cyclist for hitting them even if it was the pedestrian at fault and the driver/motorcyclist/cyclist literally couldn't do anything to stop for them.

[@ganrimmonim]

I think she said, 'Sorry I need to catch the bus' because she wasn't going to stay and help him up.

[@xwafflesx]

bikes can be written off even for minor impacts like this as the frame can be damaged when it drops. :(

[@princeofdenmark9142]

yep, it'll be registered as cat c. when he comes to sell it'll cost him.

[@Pippinn13]

I had a uni friend who just managed to avoid a car pulling out on him but trashed his bike in the process, apparently as there was no contact or video he had to accept full blame

[@hikaru9624]

I didn't know that! I knew bikers were more vulnerable than us car drivers but never did i think the bike could be damaged so easily. Glad I keep my distance from bikers on the road!

[@xwafflesx]

@@hikaru9624 aye, think of dropping a bike in the same idea as rolling a car onto its side. But no roll cage and the bodywork (if there even is much) is plastic along with the suspension and controls being exposed.

[@hikaru9624]

@@xwafflesx wow thanks. I have been in a crash due to ice and snow (I think it was back in 2010) where my late dad's discovery series 2 rolled over and that thing was a write off. Now I still remember how it happened and small details like the speedo but I digress. I remember looking at how messed up the land rover was and how lucky we were to be surrounded by its metal body (even more lucky that the engine didn't catch even though it was diesel). The discovery rolled twice and landed on the driver side and I tell you, THANK GOD for seat belts!! We walked away with only bruises. So yeah, I don't want to know how bad it is for motorcyclists. And thanks for the comparison.

[@smasheduppumpkinette]

She was in a hurry to catch that bus that was stopped at the bus stop. The thing in her hand was her bus pass card. Her focus was looking at the bus, and making sure it wasn’t going to pull away, that’s also why she started to run across the road. My guess is she looked at the road, only seen the van coming and couldn’t see the bike behind it (although I’m surprised she didn’t hear it as they aren’t exactly quiet) she was in such a rush to get the bus she just ran as soon as the van cleared the lights. She is totally at fault and I do think the biker done well considering. Hopefully she has learned her lesson and pays more attention in the future.

[@cmartin_ok]

My thoughts too. She assumed there was nothing after the van and didn't look to check. She's very lucky to survive like that

[@Anonymous-vh6kp]

This is the best analysis I've heard so far. Let's also throw into the mix that the sun was shining in her eyes which may have affected her decision making. Is it possible the motorcycle could have been inaudible due to the noise from the van and his throttle position? I'm sure she will make the same mistake again, it's human nature (aka stupidity). The obvious problem here is that mixing pedestrians with 'fast' moving heavy objects will end in disaster at some point, because the pedestrian is the most vulnerable, same for motorcyclists too; mixing them with cars/vans/buses etc, ends in disaster.

[@micheals1992]

Couldn't she be fined for leaving the scene of an accident?

[@louscannonmagoo9989]

How are you going to find her?

[@jcskyknight2222]

@@louscannonmagoo9989 I motion for all pedestrians to be fitted with number plates! :D

[@BlueShadow777]

I’m an IAM Advanced rider and car driver, and I have my IAM Masters for the ‘bike. There’s no point in repeating all your observations except to concur that the biker in the clip did nothing wrong. The same thing happened to me while driving my car down the Great Western Road in Glasgow about 20+ years ago. Some bloke just sprinted straight off the pavement without looking. There was no time at all to even attempt an emergency stop... he was that close! Anyway, I hit him, he bounced across my bonnet a few times and then hit the road. Obviously I slammed on my brakes and got out of the car to see if he was okay. He ran off!!! I shouted on him, he finally stopped and partially walked back to me and he apologised for not looking. I tried to insist that he waits as injuries can be of a delayed nature, but he wouldn’t and went on his way. Knowing I should report this to the police (legally, at least 20-odd years ago, it had to be reported within 24hrs), I waited until I arrived back in my home city of Edinburgh to do so. The reason I mention this is that there are lots of issues to consider in these types of circumstances. My scenario with my ‘victim’ relates exactly to that of the biker and the girl in the clip, as follows: i. If not reported by the rider/driver, the pedestrian could easily decide later to report it as a ‘hit-and-run’. ii. The pedestrian may not feel anything at the time of the accident (adrenaline, etc) but may suffer (possible serious) consequences later. iii. It’s illegal - I believe - for either party to leave the scene of the accident if someone is hurt (although the police officer did confirm that there is a 24hr (in fact, I’m pretty sure I was told 48hrs but I could be wrong) grace for reporting accidents. That could just be Scottish law though. In those days, there were no dash-cams and, either way, if that pedestrian had later decided to report me, it may have led to a messy situation. The girl in the clip may also have decided to report the biker, so I hope he reported it first. I recommend everyone to enhance your skills of awareness and observation by taking Advanced Riding or Driving (or both) instruction.

[@djrphotography]

Well said

[@steve0ooo]

think it is 24hrs to report a incident

[@seraphina985]

Both the duty to stop and provide details under s.170(2) of the Road Traffic Act and the duty to report under s.170(3) specify the duty as resting upon the "driver of the motor vehicle". As such I am fairly sure that the pedestrian would not be caught by either duty and thus the offence under s.170(4) for failure to comply with either of the above would not apply but I am not a solicitor so I could be wrong here.

[@lloydy1312]

There is also the possibility that she could be in shock and not realize the full extent of her injuries. Best to not let her leave in such a hurry.

[@damienmccormick5889]

How did she jump up from that? Tough girl. Must have been shock. That will hurt later.

[@jollyscarecrow]

She best have paid for the damages to that bike!! I would have followed her till the police turned up to get all the details needed and then sued her.

[@Joelbrace2]

If she was critically injured would you still sue her?

[@sythysto8391]

@@Joelbrace2 Yes, why not? Why would I want to pay repairing my bike when someone run towards my bike when I am in the right?

[@newage3]

1 - the girl was using a light activated crossing incorrectly. 2 - was she not breaking the law by leaving the scene of an accident.?

[@mikel4663]

Pedestrian Vs car goes down as an uninsured loss unfortunately..I was on a lesson about ten years back and a lady was being chased out of her house by an aggressive male partner pupil and I on the brakes at the same time and managed to stop the car and she ran into the side of my 2wk old car killing the o/s wing and as she fell she pulled my door mirror off..I jumped out and headlocked the boyfriend as he started filling her in as she lay on the floor. I called the police she made no complaint and I had to pay the damage £1300...good emergency stop though so every cloud lol

[@mydogeatspuke]

1300 can't have been your premium? So you absorbed the costs rather than making a claim on your insurance? You could still have claimed on yours.

[@mikel4663]

@@mydogeatspuke absolutely could have claimed, but with the excess and all the form filling and explaining to insurance companies for the next 5yrs about how it wasn't my fault and the raised premium...it was £1300 at the end of the day so not the end of world, in hindsight I should have put a claim in.

[@28YorkshireRose12]

Outstanding agility from the biker, I must say. . . Bike stops dead in the road, pedestrian gets lifted and shunted forward, and the biker miraculously and in spite of being launched off the bike, lands on his feet and standing upright - truly amazing! Look at his shadow as he comes off the bike, and you'll see what I mean. To me, mobile phones, media players and headphones are the bane of modern society. Add that to people who, now unable to hear what's going on around them, don't even bother to look. I should still have a few narrow squeaks on my dashcams, and it's not just pedestrians - cyclists are the worst offenders. Somewhere, I have video footage of a bunch of cyclists, and one in particular, who has his headphones totally covering his ears, riding along with no hands on his handlebars, fiddling with his phone/media player, not looking where he's going, and hurtling along amongst road traffic and pedestrians. Time I think, for some mandatory instruction on being safe road users, for all road users - perhaps even mandatory insurance for cyclists, an MOT style annual safety inspection for their bicycles and a mandatory test of their own competence to ride on public roads. It would also serve us all well if there were like for like prosecutions and penalties for offending riders.

[@lone8869]

No apology off her or even asking was he ok or giving him a hand up. Typical behaviour from so many today. She took a chance and paid the price but no thought for the poor man on the bike. Hope he was ok and his bike wasn't damaged.

[@bmorris5863]

Bald of you to assume she was In shock I imagine.

[@lone8869]

@@bmorris5863 I suspect the motorcycle driver was also in shock.

[@Anonymous-vh6kp]

Disgusting behaviour on her part. She is not even a human being at this point. Or so it seems.

[@bmorris5863]

@@Anonymous-vh6kp people go into shock,just KZbin mans gets hit bus and walks it off

[@bmorris5863]

@@lone8869 I've been knocked off my bicycle before at around 35mph and the adrenaline really didn't make me realise the conqueqences and I tried to walk off with my bike.

[@HirooKoslov]

Honestly, if the bike was an older super mini like a Suzuki Alto or something similar, it could of just as easily hidden behind that van, and the woman would've been run over. If it was a car with a particularly short bonnet, like a smart car, her head would've impacted the windshield, which would do decent damage more often than not I'd say.

[@Anonymous-vh6kp]

Unlikely to do much damage. Statistics only report the people who have injuries. But for all we know there are 5 times as many incidents that don't get reported simply because little to no harm was done.

[@HirooKoslov]

@@Anonymous-vh6kp You sure? 30mph is a decent clip to smash your head against a tempered glass window

[@Anonymous-vh6kp]

​@@HirooKoslov Yeah I guess so, I just hear people say "they were soo lucky" so often I start to think, hang on, is there actually as much danger here as what we think? Windshields have plenty of flex, as do bumpers. How much trauma can the head take? I hear the skull is fairly strong. A person 5ft 9 tall will hit the ground at ~17mph if he fell backwards whilst standing. A pavement is much harder than a windshield. My instinct is telling me you're more likely to walk away unscathed, but I'm not willing to test this theory!

[@mydogeatspuke]

@@HirooKoslov 30mph can kill someone. You ever see the advert about safe driving with the little girl? Even just 5mph slower can be the difference between life and death.

[@mydogeatspuke]

@@Anonymous-vh6kp There's an around 45% chance of being killed as a pedestrian by a car hitting you at 30mph according to data taken from real world collisions. 30 is still a very dangerous speed, but at 40mph the risk of death increases to 85%.

[@Loosehead]

Think we need to resurrect that "Think bike" TV ad, aimed at pedestrians. She looked, but was looking for cars only.

[@Interknetz]

Nah, we need the stop look and go ad back. If it ever was one mind you. It might have been something I just remember from primary school.

[@princeofdenmark9142]

So she's 100% to blame for this. How does he get compensation from her for the damage to his yamaha? Fairings aren't cheap, if you buy a bike it's your pride and joy. I think his position was fine, that was the way I was trained to ride. Van can see him in the mirror, not so far over to the right to be riding next to the kerb through sludge. She was on her toes as soon as she realised she'd damaged something and was liable. Instinct to blame the man of course. This is why I won't go on a journey of more than two miles without the gopro on my helmet.

[@davekelly8168]

I wonder if at a later date she will sue the biker as the Yoga lady did to the cyclist..

[@vixstar46]

I was wondering that!

[@Blue-moon12]

Then she just walks off. Causes an accident then does one!

[@declanfaughey8471]

I had a very similar accident on my bicycle in Dublin city center, coming up to 4 way junction, the traffic had a green light, meaning that the lights were RED for the pedestrians but someone stepped out in front of me Without looking, I had no time to react and could not avoid hitting her due to the fact I was in the bicycle lane and there’s was a car in the lane to my right and when she stepped out onto the road I was only about 5 meters away from her,she got up without a scratch, I had a broken left collar. The worst part of it was she tried to blame me for the accident saying “did you not see me” but when she saw my helmet cam she changed her tune to “are you ok”. Just a few things before you all blame me 1) I had my bike light on flashing mode 2) I was wearing a high visibility cycling jacket 3) I was going 25kph in a 30kph zone. 4) she crossed the road on a RED pedestrian light.5) This happened during board daylight.

[@Seanmcdhuibhne]

Wasn't Talbot St/ Gardner St junction? That's notorious for incidents like that.

[@alextw1488]

This just shows how unpredictable pedestrians (and other road users) can be. Not suggesting this is the case with this woman at all but it's easy to imagine somebody with say an intellectual or mental disability not able to take appropriate self care all the time, likewise somebody intoxicated or a child or perhaps somebody in some kind of emotional distress. Beyond that I would say every single one of us can be distracted or make errors of judgement at least occasionally. That's why it's so important for all of us to take care particularly when driving/riding what are in effectdeadly weapons. We can never remove all risk to others but we can reduce it by understanding that people will do people things.

[@RandomShart]

Nothing the biker could do here. I would've said a slow weave in the lane when behind a van would be useful so people know you are there but she didn't look once, so in this case it makes zero difference. She was just like a deer jumping out from behind some bushes. Clueless and oblivious.

[@SPTSuperSprinter156]

bless, your pupil was still learning so I think the first clip was forgivable and is why you're in the car with them. Me personally I have no faith in humanity whatsoever so I'd like to think I'd have slowed and/or beeped when seeing he had no intention of being aware of what's around him, but honestly, it's easy to be an armchair critic. The clip you analysed looks to be have been virtually unavoidable to me, as you say the biker had no chance of stopping.

[@sophie-leigh4218]

She is so lucky it was only a motorbike and not a bus or lorry! She blindly stepped out behind the van!

[@RichO1701e]

As a biker, I 100% agree with your analysis. He was in the perfect lane position, good speed for the conditions. I think she was rushing for the bus, it was her bus pass/oyster card in hand. If it had been me, I'd've reported the accident to the police anyway, with the footage, just to cover my own back in case she later filed a report against the biker, once the adrenaline wore off and she realised she was more injured than initially thought.

[@ianm408]

Great analysis as usual. It was interesting to note the low angle of the sun even if she'd looked there was no certainty that she'd have seen the bike due to the low sun. Also do we know if the biker had his headlamp on? It wouldn't have helped here but is another life saver. Watching the bikers shadow during the slow mo was interesting as you could see him jump off the bike and make a good landing.

[@paulcook7426]

Who is liable for damages? This case involving a cyclist and pedestrian (where it was found both equally to blame after she similarly walked out into the road, but only the cyclist ended up paying) might help out as some form of precedence. This case may differ somewhat as the motorcyclist will almost probably have insurance but then that would come onto insurance company. And as you say, she just walks off without exchanging details - in France especially this would be a crime in terms of leaving the scene. As the motorcyclist I'd have been tempted to ring the police immediately because of that and any damage to his bike. Sounds like from what I heard muffled, she didn't want to wait as she was running to get the bus. www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/21/cyclist-crashed-into-woman-mobile-phone-pay-compensation-london

[@pebbles8677]

The increase in idiots is astonishing. I came across two teenage girls about to cross at one of these just because the traffic stopped on the opposite side of the road, my side was flowing but the lights were still on green for me and I missed the girls by seconds. The mind boggles, no matter how safe you are being you got to watch out for thickos or chancers.

[@Anonymous-vh6kp]

But I bet you were once a thicko also. People learn from experience, sometimes unfortunately the hard way. Side note, those girls weren't teenagers, they were probably 10 and wearing makeup.

[@pebbles8677]

@@Anonymous-vh6kp I have learnt from many silly mistakes but never when it comes to crossing a road, I've always abided by the rules and waited for the green man to appear, it should be common sense to be careful and stop, look and listen as a car is a killing machine.

[@LauraLeeX777]

This is why Dash Cams are so, so important. I'd vote for them to be made mandatory. I agree she got up and blamed the biker, be that due to shock, idiocy or just being a victim of her own circumstance and having a bit of a distracted day, she still blamed the biker when she literally walked out in front of a moving vehicle, she didn't think to look for. If that biker didn't have the cam, and she reported this incident, he'd face penalty points, insurance premiums increasing, etc.

[@zaink7037]

Agree, the police now encourage people to submit clips of dangerous driving. In my area they there is a particular dual carriageway they said to send clips from. On Facebook the met caught a lot of people speeding highest was around 110mph and that's a 40mph road.

[@elliottcole6537]

You can see that the back wheel locked, the bike is damaged, and his mirror looks smashed This girl is definitely being stupid running off

[@noder8867]

@Mary Hinge I highly doubt it given she was more worried about catching the bus from what she said afterwards. The pedestrian is definitely at fault here and her running off does not help anyone besides herself. She did not even look once into the road. Talk about the sympathy card.

[@DaNeShady90]

This made me a good laugh, thanks. Have seen this clip before, but it is always amusing. Though I feel for the rider and that bike.

[@good7saint]

Ashley I'm a street cleaner in Liverpool and I see pedestrians doing this all the time. One time I even had to drag a young lad back by the hood of his coat. Because he was so distracted by his phone he was walking behind a delivery wagon that was reversing

[@ChrisCreats]

Glad no one was hurt but the pedestrian was lucky it could of been a car going much faster. Natural selection at work

[@rzmbobby8357]

I hope that hurt. She 100% deserved that. Love the way she goes to casually walk off, he should be taking her to claims court to repair damage to his bike!

[@XREmily]

RZM Bobby Thats pretty grim saying she deserved to be hurt lol, you don’t know the circumstances and although I think she was in the wrong it was an accident, it’s lucky they were both alright

[@SvenTviking]

She sees the bike and continues to walk in front of it. What an Oxygen thief.

[@RichO1701e]

no she didn't. She wasn't even looking as she crossed. She only realised the bike was there when he was about 2feet away from impact

[@Rabi7468]

Pedestrians are not insured, you will have to take her to court to get any damages paid, the judge will decide on her income how much to pay monthly, that can be £1 or £10 a month thats if you are not at fault. Then you have to pay excess on your insurance, your insurance will double on renewal date, and you will lose your NCD if not protected.

[@MrPoopnoddy]

I hit a pedestrian [drunk] a few years ago while on my motorbike. I didn't drop the bike, but she broke the nosecone, windscreen, indicator, mirror subframe and bent a crash bung mount (that had to hurt). I turned around and went back to her (bleeding quite well from a hole in her leg - crash bungs are harder than legs) but she insisted on no police. I rang it in and she hobbled off into the night. Police turned up and found her on a park bench...she was of no fixed abode and had a warrant out on her. Still, I had £600 damage - self-repair - and no recourse at all to reclaim my expenses.

[@Bikertyke]

I wish I had a camera on my bike when a car pulled into my path. She admitted she didn't look when she changed lanes. But after the accident she said I was overtaking. Luckily I ride very defensive and slowed to about 15 mph when I ran into side of her. But still had broken ribs after and nerve damage. That's how I ended up taking my car test. 25 year's riding without an accident up to then. But had enough. Car only now. Passed with no faults. Chuffed

[@Anonymous-vh6kp]

Well done to you. It's a shame we can't have pedestrian path, road for cars, road for motorcyclists, and road for HGV all separated. It is fantasy I guess.

[@CZ350tuner]

The problem is that modern motorcycles are a lot quieter than they used to be. I ride classic 1970's motorcycles and I don't hear quieter modern bikes that are right next to me in traffic. One of my bikes has the "Pedestrian castrator" mudguard mounted blade front number plate, which were no longer compulsory on motorcycles after 1974 because of the severe injury it could cause to jay walking pedestrians. This is probably that one instance where a loud exhaust system would have prevented the accident even starting. For instance if the biker had been riding a Harley with shotgun pipes, it would have drawn her attention because the sound of an annoying loud farm tractor in a city would have seemed out of place.

[@VideoNarstee]

"Green Cross Code" has been virtually non-existent for the past 20 years. Allied to a "blame everyone else" culture we have, and scenarios like this are par for the course. No one takes responsibility anymore (fortunately the bike rider did and it possibly saved the ladies life).The sun does appear low and bright in this clip and bikes are harder to spot so she may have been blinded by the sun, making seeing the bike harder? But she should have then taken extra time to "look again", or just use the crossing facility correctly in the first place!

[@Anonymous-vh6kp]

I'm between the age of 20 & 30 and have never heard of the "Green Cross Code", but instead we were taught to "Stop, Look, & Listen", demonstrated by a hedgehog. I never been squished crossing the road so that's good.

[@xctrainsleeds3141]

That bag off documents saved her broken ribbs!

[@Richard_Barnes]

I thought she was going for a bus. Anyway, I would not be happy with her just walking away having caused me damage to my bike. Surely she is liable for that? The video clearly shows exactly it was her fault, leaving the biker no time to avoid her. I would be livid here. In fact I would be filming whilst I walked over to her to get the details necessary to have my bike paid for. Ashley, you pointed out a few things about the biker that I didn’t pick up on and with that said too, I don’t see how the biker is responsible in any way at all, yet they will be out of pocket paying for repairs. I just don’t get the absolute disrespect pedestrians have for the road now. Young-ens are so bad nowadays for doing just what was in this video, knowing they are doing it, yet still not caring. They expect the traffic to stop for them. *rant disengaged* sorry.

[@drummonkeystuffuk1875]

It gets me at how the younger ones assume the car will stop within a nanoseconds notice, yet we have a 40ton truck fully loaded - sure it'll stop from 30mph to 0 in a split of a second! - perfect logic aye!

[@AdamWebb1982]

I seen this clip on U.K. idiots FB page. Some people blaming the biker. Very sad. 🙄

[@apwip]

There was a case recently where a pedestrian was looking at her phone and crossed the pedestrian crossing yet the cyclist that hit her was given some of the blame as he should have expected it even when it was on green for him. So maybe we need to drive very carefully approaching pedestrian crossings. The adult pedestrian appears to be negligent and seems to be a fault but what if it was young child. You can't blame a young child's ignorance. Maybe reducing the speed limit to 20mph in such areas would help?

[@idontwanttopickone]

In my opinion it looks like it's London and she's holding her Oyster card - a credit card sized card that you use on public transport in London. The reason she wasn't looking and is rushing is because that is the bus needs to get on and she's only thinking about that. The likelihood of future accidents like this could be reduced by simply moving the bus stop to the other side of the crossing, meaning anyone crossing to rush for a bus would at least be looking in the direction of the traffic when they see their bus. However, non of that will help people who put their lives at risk by not looking both ways when crossing the road.

[@marklittler784]

Yeah I think that's a brilliant idea to put the stop before the crossing so they're looking that way if they're catching a bus, also the driver cannot help but see the person running for the bus. The common denominators here were the pedestrians were looking at what they were paying attention to, the oyster card or bus and the Macdonalds drive through queue or their phone both certainty weren't looking towards approaching traffic, so take action on approach using your horn if they're not looking at you, a green light means proceed with caution with regard to all other road users, not l have the right of way regardless.

[@tonysshredshed297]

That is why I rev my bike just before crossings, makes people look 😬

[@marklittler784]

Yeah one problem is not seeing the vehicle the other is not hearing the vehicle.

[@noneck3099]

Clearly the bikers fault.... he should have been doing a wheelie at 160kmh, and lane split between the bus and the van.....never would have happened.... I'll just sit here and wait for the comments...

[@derekheeps1244]

What wasn’t mentioned was that the traffic had a green light , so the girl crossed against the red man ; that in itself is enough to make her culpable . I think I’d have asked her to wait and called the police : she is liable for any damage , either personally or she can claim against her household insurance . I once had a close call with a pedestrian, who turned out to be very drunk and staggered off the pavement into the side of my car . I had seen him and had slowed and moved further out , but he still staggered into my back door , ending up on the road . No damage to my car , but he could barely stand up ; I stopped to see he was all right , his mates were laughing at him and I asked if they wanted the police involved , but I figured they were all under age drinkers , so I asked them to see him safely home and we parted amicably .

[@maxhi88]

Leaving the scene of an accident is a violation of itself. Who's liable for the scratches, the pedestrian of course. Motorcyclist should have left the bike lying on the road and hold the woman until police arrive and then sue.

[@edanbrooke3335]

So she was running to catch the bus?

[@Anonymous-vh6kp]

Yes, she had bus pass in her hand.

[@NicholasPadilha]

The first one actually is more about a tourist that doesn't know that the cars come from the other way... It's clearly that he's looking at the wrong side of the road.

[@RandomShart]

She's looking at the bus to make sure it isn't leaving. It's not a tourist thing.

[@NicholasPadilha]

@@RandomShart but I was talking about the first guy, not the woman...

[@johnnyrook3588]

This particular road is in Charlton, and is notorious for having people not checking before crossing at the roundabouts. There are still flowers there for a middle-aged man who got killed just further down the road a few months ago.

[@Pantifaximile]

She may well have looked, but the biker's position in the road meant that they could not be seen. Instead it looked to the pedestrian like there was nothing behind the white van.

[@namtabmai]

Just to point out people (well none motorcycle owners) seem to vastly under estimate the cost of damage. Thankfully the motorcycle in question is an unfaired one so unless the petrol tank was damaged it is likely the cost of the damage was hopefully minimum, but had it had fairing it could have easily put the cost of repair into mid 3 figure - 4 figure sum. A different bike could easily have been written off insurance wise if the owner was made to claim for that.

[@edwardpurkis1084]

namtabmai yep, people that don’t own bikes have no clue as to the cost of repairing them, someone was “just moving” my bike over a bit when they dropped of because they not a biker and didn’t know what they was doing and put a massive dent in my tank, a tank that is £1000 to replace before I got to the levers, exhaust, bars ect. They had no clue bikes are expensive

[@chrisdevine4848]

Woolwich! I hit a crow (on my motorbike) in almost that exact spot. It didn't look either.

[@cardinalsin6313]

I bet it was on social media on a crow smartphone at the time. Too busy updating it's 'Beakbook' status!

[@clockman5472]

RIP Crow

[@chrisdevine4848]

@@clockman5472 - I was too busy trying to stay on my bike to check, so I like to believe it put that one down to experience and flew on, deciding not to fly in front moving vehicles again.

[@clockman5472]

@@chrisdevine4848 hopefully Mr. Crow didn't die then. Maybe he'll tell his friends so they don't do the same

[@MrKmunro]

The lady in this clip who got struck by the motorcycle really should take more care when crossing the road. Her actions were nothing short of ignorant/unintelligent, and I especially did not like the way she gave the motorcyclist a disgusted look before walking off in a strop. She should have at least ensured the motorcyclist was ok (clearly, he was not at fault).Here, I thought the motorcyclist showed great care and had a quick, almost cat-like reaction to stopping in an emergency. Well done. I would say to him that, thankfully, as Ashley Neal said, he had this dashcam footage showing he was driving responsibly and that this girl was walking out onto roads without a jot of care in the world. This girl really needs to learn some basic road safety/general manners before going out again. Shes just lucky it was a carefullly driven motorbike and not a bus/reckless driver.

[@stanokella]

Anyone else notice the ambulance that passes behind as Ashley says ‘..could have been a hell of a lot worse’…

[@qaisniazi3793]

Hi it is great they're good and lucky. Every one should do their best to protect each other.

[@Anonymous-vh6kp]

Not really lucky at all. That motorcycle owner now has to pay for damages. Yes, it could have been worse, but it could have been better. I guess I just don't rate fate.

[@Stettafire]

Yes. Pedestrians need to take care not to cause accidents/get themselves hurt and drivers need to be on the look out too. I hate this blame culture. Just EVERYONE should make an effort to not be idiots on the roads please, pedestrians and drivers alike.

[@Engineer9736]

What a pointless comment. Do you think your message will reach the dumb woman? It’s not good as it apparently didn’t impress her, so she probably didn’t learn much.

[@gonnahavemesomefun]

I’d love to know what the deal with insurance is. I mean, as a bike rider myself I’d be mad beyond words at my bike going down in this type of situation, but because the pedestrian wasn’t in a vehicle would an insurance company go after her personally? Does that mean we should all have personal insurance?

[@atkin207]

I don't think insurance will help you with this. Only way to do it is a small claims court if they don't want to pay for damages. That's if of course you are able to get their identity.

[@DasArab]

A lot of people dont know that as a Pedestrian they may already have insurance. If you have Liability insurance through a Home Insurance policy you are probably already covered for the likes of this, but the Courts have already said "‘Even where a motorist or cyclist had the right of way, pedestrians who are established on the road have right of way" so how could someone make a claim against a pedestrian when the courts are saying they are at fault?

[@1ninjatiger]

Miles Coverdale we don’t want to go down the jaywalking route..don’t we have enough rules already.?The UK is made up of mostly small towns and villages which means there can be many miles between crossings. Not everyone lives in one of our major cities.

[@mydogeatspuke]

The biker would have to claim on his insurance and pay the excess and inevitable increased premium. He could only get the pedestrian to pay if he took her to small claims court, which would cost far more than it would be worth. Plus in civil cases, which all non fatal collisions are, both driver (or rider) and pedestrian are equally responsible, regardless of provable fault. She could get a lawyer to convince the judge she suffered emotional trauma and the biker would have to pay damages, as well as his insurance stuff. You just have to thank whatever deity you believe in that you didn't accidentally kill an utter moron that day and get on with your life.

[@jcardboard]

In some countries you are expected to have personal insurance (France is one) in case you cause an accident. It's a good idea I think.

[@MrBigMalT]

As a biker this really boils my pi$$! She’s probably caused hundreds of pounds worth of damage, if he wanted to replace every scratched panel, bent brake levers etc. and she thought it was ok just to walk away. Maybe flipping pedestrians should have to have insurance!

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

The bike will almost certainly have sustained damage, and anyone who rides a bike will know the extreme cost of even a minor repair. I hope she hurt after the way she just sodded off without so much as a 'kiss my arse'. Hope the rider was ok too.

[@SvenTviking]

That’s Woolwich, Church Street.

[@Alexisonfiresx]

I had a group of guys literally walk straight out into the middle of the road when it's green light for me, normally on this particular road I be doing 40mph or more, but luckily I was doing 25mph this time around, I didn't have to brake hard, just a simple foot off the accelerator and I managed to scrim pass the last lad of the group, put the car into neutral and revved loudly at em as I drove pass, made them jump 😂 but a part of me couldn't stop thinking what if I was doing 40mph that day, the first lad of the group would've got his foot ran over or worse became my new hood ornament

[@ryanm.191]

Remember on bikes you can’t slam on breaks otherwise you flip. In cases like this where it’s a green light, if they jay walk, or cross the road in a place that doesn’t prioritise peds, if you hit a ped, is should always 100% without doubt be the peds fault

[@jukio02]

That's why you got to look. The motorcycle was in a blind spot behind the van.

[@TheMucklegipe]

If the situation was reversed, it that the motorist was to go through a red light, pedestrians should be liable for doing the same!

[@lexman8678]

That motorcyclist knocked that chicks fashion sense back to 2008 lol

[@christopheroliver8762]

I work in car insurance. Here is what will happen. Although the pedestrian is clearly at fault the insurer will deal with the motorcyclist's claim as a fault claim. This is because pedestrians do not have insurance and they'll like not able to pay any of the motorcyclist's insurer's costs which are likely to be in the thousands. Most people do not have thousands of pounds available to pay a claim. The insurer will however be able to use the video footage as evidence if the pedestrian tries to claim for injury. They'll likely not pay the pedestrian anything as the motorcyclist had no way to avoid this accident. This is one of the big reasons insurers love video footage as it would practically impossible to avoid paying the pedestrian without the footage.

[@Elliot00000]

Wouldn't this be a situation where the motorcyclist loses most if they contact the insurance?

[@christopheroliver8762]

@@Elliot00000 By contacting the insurance they'll still be able get the bike fixed or a settlement for another bike. Also if the pedestrian chances a claim for injury, the motorcyclist will at least be able provide his evidence that he wasn't to blame. This also allows the insurer to build a solid case for not paying for that pedestrian's injuries. Using the insurance even in a "fault" is not going to make your premiums completely unaffordable. Yes they'll go up but they do go back down after a few years and after 5 years you don't even need to declare it. In most cases the won't take all your no claims discount if you have 4 or more. The motorcyclist likely needs thousands of pounds to cover the damage to their motorcycle, leathers and helmet and may even need to take time off work due to injury. Lets hope they have comprehensive cover and took out the additional cover for helmet and leathers. I guess this makes the case for having suitable coverage.

[@yourface07]

I reckon she looked once and van blocked the view of the bike and she assumed safe. Could happen to anyone, but yeah she is totally at fault. Glad her and the biker were okay. I really need to invest in a dashcam

[@ConnorEtch]

Yeah its crazy how people forget those buttons on the traffic lights actually stop traffic so you can cross safely. Pisses me off when people dont use them and just run across. Also pisses me off when peoplr pres them and either walk away or cross with the red light anyways

[@yourface07]

connor etchells yeah that’s true. I think this woman was rushing to get the bus and she was fumbling for her bus pass. This sounds stupid but I am more likely to do the same as her and ignore the traffic button because I tend to think “no I’m not going to stop the drivers when I can trust myself to cross safely” (although I would if it’s busy). Watching this has made me rethink though.

[@notabeautyqueen06]

Meh people are stupid 🤷‍♀️ you don’t look anything like I pictured. You’re actually quite handsome 😂

[@Johnconno]

The 10% speed is interesting, that gurning inbred appearance...I applied cranial calipers to the image with fascinating results.

[@glynmoore3730]

One lucky lady, but I can't get over the fact she walked away not accepting any responsibility for the accident she caused, or checking the biker was OK and also not injured.

[@trueriver1950]

Damage to motorbike: going down like that is always possible to find you've bent the drinks forks: and always advisable to get them checked, which costs money even if they are OK