Ashley's Analysis | Motorbike hits Pedestrian #2

When a pedestrian steps out into the road without looking it's obviously very serious. In the end this lady was very lucky! This is the second time we've looked at something like this, but different things can be learned from this. Thanks to my viewer for sending the clip in for me to use, check it out here • Video .
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[@Spray_UK]

Since this incident they’ve spent months changing that junction, you can’t turn right there anymore

[@angrycyclist9387]

So, instead of getting rid of the view obstructing hedge, which would take a couple of mins with a hedge trimmer, they've spent a load of time any money changing the junction?

[@Spray_UK]

Angry Cyclist 😂 I’m sure this incident has nothing to do with the council spending thousands to change the junction. It is a bad junction even at the best of times

[@hikaru9624]

@@angrycyclist9387 we don't know who owns that hedge, it could very well be private property (like how car parks at supermarkets is private property).

[@seblewis6275]

Blimey it must be chaos now. No right turn into what looks like a shopping place.

[@Dominate955]

But I've seen many similar junctions. What makes this one so special? And yes @Angry Cyclist I agree, getting rid of the hedge would have been a better solution

[@peterturner8766]

Wet weather actually makes a difference to how pedestrians behave. On a nice sunny day they are more likely to have their head up and look around. A cold wet day means you tend to pull your collar up and put your head down. Add to that less light in the winter and it is a recipe for disaster.

[@MarcoTheGreat2008]

Spot on, exactly what happened here. Old lady didn't want to look up and around because she would get a wee bit cold and wet. Older people being more susceptible will shuffle around head down without a care on days like this.

[@Nooziterp1]

And not have an umbrella in front of their eyes.

[@airportdocumentaries]

Why is there a hedge on a crossing? It's blocking the view of the crossing

[@blueberrysavers3547]

No it isn't because 1) the tactile pavement is a brownish colour which donates a type of pedestrian crossing is not controlled by traffic lights or a zebra crossing although you can just look at the traffic lights if there all red in this case. If the tactile pavement is red, then it donates a controlled crossing. 2) I didn't see any buttons to the left so I know it's not a controlled crossing

[@dennisphoenix1]

@@blueberrysavers3547 the tac tiles do denote a crossing point but I thought it was for blind people as they can feel the bumps underfoot , they can't tell the difference in the colours of tac tiles . The ones in my area are yellow .

[@dennisphoenix1]

I thought the same about the hedging , bad design by highways dept

[@shaun1293]

I work on traffic signals. A site like this if built recently would have pedestrian signals, no doubt about it, but I can tell the signals here are ancient. There’s no reason to have tactile paving here; a blind person has no way of knowing when it’s safe to cross without a tactile motor under a push button, or audible bleepers (this site wouldn’t have bleepers though).

[@Strider9655]

It's probably like what they do at roundabouts, blocking the view to force you to stop before moving/crossing.

[@Dominate955]

Could you imagine if that motorbike was a truck going at 40mph? I don't know who's stupid enough to cross the road without looking. I'm sure they teach you how to cross the road at primary school, why can an old lady not do that? Sorry if that sounds harsh, but that's my point of view.

[@CaseyJonesNumber1]

@Candice HodgsonRiley definitely the rain and umbrella was a huge contributory factor. More concerned with keeping her head dry (and his too?), she didn't even think to lower it to look. Same happens with coats with hoods - if you just turn your head you see the inside of the hood, so you have to either lower the hood or turn your body. I've seen many people chance it crossing the road just because it's raining and they don't want to get their face or hair wet for a few seconds.

[@hasenphelt526]

Could be the elderly belief that "they will stop" cos im old.

[@CaseyJonesNumber1]

@aircrash tupolov I think others who are local to the area have said this crossing did not have lights to indicate whether it was safe (or not) for the pedestrians to cross, so they had to use their judgement. Apparently it has since been altered to prevent a right turn, but no mention of pedestrian lights.

[@CaseyJonesNumber1]

@Candice HodgsonRiley then you get those who look directly at you coming towards them, and they dash across right in front of you causing a very near miss! Often with a child in a pushchair in front of them too! My god, imagine hitting one of those...

[@jastat]

Maybe the son wanted that inheritance early...?

[@tristandoran601]

Tall hedge at the crossing wouldn't have offered up many clues as to what the pedestrians were going to do. Also large metal covering just before the crossing doesn't help grip in an emergency braking situation especially on a motorbike.

[@clickrick]

Those were my two thoughts as well.

[@sirmalus5153]

I had to brake on a manhole cover years ago on my motorbike, just like in the video (speed less than 30mph in a 30 limit, wet road, a shut throttle already in my case) the result was I hit the road so fast I was aware of the bike 'going down' AFTER I hit the road. That's how fast it happens believe it or not. Me and the bike then slid for over 30 feet.The bike in the video would have hit both of the pedestrians instead of only one of them like skittles, if it had braked hard enough to stop. Did the bike have anti-lock brakes fitted???

[@ynotnilknarf39]

Agree, the rider could have positioned themselves centre right of the lane however early doors, about where the repair meets the existing tarmac would have been about right and could have meant the rider just got past the couple stepping out and not have to think about the slippery surface and also the road imperfections which were obvious in leading up to that point.

[@GGMattt]

Pedestrians should be taking more care than the vehicles though, especially if the light is green.

[@groover7116]

My god that satisfying rain drop sounds hitting the car roof

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

I hate it, it reminds me of ruined holidays and BBQ's

[@boogieboy1974]

If I had a pound everytime i brake for pedestrians who dont look, Makes you think how they got to that age in the first place

[@ynotnilknarf39]

If I had a pound for evertime I had to stop and look out for moron drivers speeding and/or driving like twats ... makes you realise why the death and seriously injured on our roads is primarily down to pricks behind the wheel of a motor!

[@garymills6702]

They're going for Darwinians!

[@davids3539]

She's probably been hit many times before and is tough enough.

[@dylancode]

I partly agree, although the cars, motorbikes or bikes are the things causing damage in the first place. I agree that they should always look, but it's up to the drivers to look out for the pedestrians. They don't cause harm on their own.

[@leoscock]

"LOOK RIGHT -->" in huge letters on the pavement. Some people ...

[@na-up6gs]

So if the motorcyclist operated the horn, the situation would've been avoided? 🤦‍♀️

[@CheapskateMotorsports]

@@na-up6gs doubt it. The button to activate a horn on a motorbike is in close proximity to the indicator, meaning it's difficult to sound the horn on demand and it's easy to hit it by accident. Add this to the fact that motorcycle horns are pathetic and can't really be heard - you have nothing left but to try and brake/swerve without lowsiding your bike into them anyway due to the rain.

[@na-up6gs]

@@CheapskateMotorsports ah that's scary! after watching this I don't want to drive 🤦‍♀️😑

[@OrphansCorpse]

@@na-up6gs So if the lady looked the situation would've been avoided ?

[@johnf3326]

Some old people? One day we might not be so 'with it' 🤔

[@wirdy1]

As a car driver for 35 yrs & a biker for 25 yrs, I've read all the police driving books & done the police practical riding courses; I haven't done IAM but do apply their techniques. Even after all this, your videos keep me learning new situations & how to deal with them. Awesome work & thank you. 'all the pedestrians are looking at me, even the two dogs' made me chuckle.

[@suzuki7400]

Ditto....RoSPA and Blood Biker and I still find these videos spot on. I would like to think I would have slowed down a bit though as not only were there pedestrians from the left but there could have been any number coming from the right, hidden by the vehicles stopped in the second lane. Well done again to the person who sent the video in!

[@AlexanderBrassington]

Might send this to my friend who steps out without looking with the excuse of "I've got right of way" or "They've got breaks"

[@antonycharnock2993]

Why place a hedge by a crossing causing a blind spot. Its the same with roundabouts. Bad road design.

[@antonycharnock2993]

@@jwalker7567 Yeah. I live near Sheffield so know Chesterfield well. Best one is the new roundabout on the Stocksbridge bypass for the new retail park. You cannot see the oncoming traffic at all due to the huge barriers. They had to put an extra lane in just for the left turning steelwork lorries as they kept running off!

[@CheapskateMotorsports]

@@jwalker7567 seems like a common train of thought for these road designers is "turning the road into a dangerous death trap will definitely slow them down, that'll teach 'em!" And then they wonder why their junction is so dangerous.

[@SPTSuperSprinter156]

i believe the reason it's done at some roundabouts is to force you to slow down before commiting so you have to crawl up to the threshold and then check if its clear. There is a junction near me which has excellent visibility out when turning left, to the point you hardly need to brake. the problem is that can create hazards in itself where you may forget to check fully around you before leaving.

[@paulcook7426]

@@jwalker7567 Correct, there's a few roundabouts in Darlington where the council put up huge hedges and it was on purpose to slow people down on the approach. Nothing wrong with that. In terms of safety on this clip though, it's as much of a detriment here because it's not the motorists who are the ones in danger.

[@ryanoconnor5256]

@@paulcook7426 Absolutely right. The hedges are there to prevent the decision to go being made too early and from my experience they kind of make the situation demand your full attention which is always good on the road

[@tiegan7158]

First of all, 'Look Right' was printed on the floor in front of the pedestrians. They didn't even bother checking. Why is that hedge there? It blocks the view of the driver. How can someone blindly cross the road without checking first? Even if the green man's there or not I could never rely on just that. I always check. Secondly, I wouldn't blame the motorcyclist too badly. He was obeying the rules and he couldn't see the pedestrians too clearly. But I'm glad that she recovered well

[@tiegan7158]

@James Stewart Probably but the hedge should go. The drivers should be able to see the pedestrians before they start crossing

[@tiegan7158]

I was gonna make a comment about that but looks like I have

[@tiegan7158]

And again. Was just reading the comments

[@rocket7334]

Stop Look and Listen, that's all you have to do pedestrians.

[@lovejetfuel4071]

I saw a lady the other day looking at her phone while she was crossing. Really, how dumb can you be? People cant even look up for 7 stupid seconds?

[@noodlenoggin5854]

Slow down and don't run people over, that's all you have to do drivers. Hope that helps you.

[@two-countiesdashcam]

good point about using the horn in those kind of situations, I've learnt something today so *thank you*

[@hikaru9624]

Two-Counties Dashcam that is the purpose of the horn, to alert others of your presence.

[@Tehleach]

@@hikaru9624 Unfortunately not many people seem to realise this any more, at some point it became an aggressive tool for Road ragers. I usually hold off on using the horn at all even when someone has cut me up for example simply because I don't want them thinking I'm being a raging idiot and potentially starting an altercation in the middle of the road (seen it happen before) I do however find the horn very useful to sound in country lanes in the day, at night time you can usually see headlights coming the other way but day time of course you're not gonna see lights so I think a quick beep as you approach a particularly blind bend definitely can help

[@hikaru9624]

@@Tehleach you're right about people misusing the horn thus giving it the stereotyping of "I'm angry". And I do understand why people don't use the horn, it thanks to Ashley's videos that I've started using the horn on my road which is basically a big blind spot (it's single track for the most part). There is one section of my road that's really bad and is blind corner. I've had a few scares with oncoming traffic on this corner and no you can't mount the verge unless you want to go down the drop off on both sides of the track. Anyway since using the horn I've managed to avoid collision with traffic and local wildlife so far (helps that deer are mor intelligent than pheasants). And of course you're spot on about head lights being an early warning of traffic at night (although I hate come across audi's and their white lights....).

[@HarrietBeaumont]

I hadn't thought of this either. I have learned something :)

[@stanjones8850]

Can fully appreciate the message you are trying to get across with this video Ashley but I was driving this afternoon when a random horn blast came from nowhere. My immediate attention was taken from my driving to see what he was on the horn for. Is it me?? Is he a taxi waiting for his customer?? Will never know but I was distracted from what was in front of me. Ps. Bit of a self righteous prick aren't you 👌

[@gavinminion8515]

You make a good point about the horn. The car horn has been reduced to a anger / insult expressing device. Oddly enough, when using it to warn other drivers I am there, I often use a quick double press as (for reasons I can't explain), the 'bip bip' sounds more polite.

[@tankfisher8167]

This happened to me in Edgware Road in London, luckily I was able to avoid the pedestrian. People just don't look.

[@evertondave5825]

The motorist is too easy to blame

[@hikaru9624]

Or listen for that matter (obviously not blaming blind or deaf folk).

[@iShtiVideos]

central london is the worst place to drive because of pedestrians crossing without looking.

[@dgphi]

It's best to slow to a crawl when riding or driving past a line of stopped cars. Drivers will often pull out without looking.

[@leifcian4288]

Yeah may as well slow to 20 odd on approach to crossings. Really confusing splitting lanes with different lights could just have better signs and markings too, terrible way to manage a junction.

[@applejuice5272]

6:01 "Every single pedestrian - including the two dogs" 😂

[@TomRogersOnline]

Point Number 1 for me: Do not move the casualty. At 1:00 in the video, the man in the blue top tries to lift her up like a sack of potatoes! In that situation, he should have ensured immediate situational safety (road blocked), made sure she was conscious, and made sure somebody had dialled emergency services. Yes, if necessary, do put her in the recovery position to aid breathing, but otherwise do not move her. Certainly don't lift her up like that.

[@PedroConejo1939]

I know I'm late to this (Ashley's videos are always valid) but did you notice the woman who was on the phone was actually using her hand to prevent the lady from getting up? It suggested to me that she may have been trained, doctor/nurse/paramedic. Get the ambulance rolling and then possibly move the casualty to a recovery position if safe to do so.

[@ShaimingLong]

I'm not one to talk to what's going on in a video, but seeing him do that had me demanding why and telling to leave her still. It may be 10 years since my Emergency First Aider qualification expired, but the core basic lessons are still present. I'm glad someone commented on what you should do at an accident!

[@TomRogersOnline]

@@PedroConejo1939 She may well have been telling her not to move.

[@TomRogersOnline]

@@ShaimingLong Yes, I'm first aid trained too and also was in the St. John Ambulance as a boy. Not entirely a misspent youth. You never forget certain things. It was very much drilled in that you never move a casualty under those circumstances, which is why it stood out a mile.

[@ShaimingLong]

@@TomRogersOnline There were occasional visits by them in my Primary School teaching basics, mostly the recovery position and how to get even adults from their backs onto their sides properly. I had no idea you could do more with them as a child, I probably would have. Professionally all I ever did was the Emergency First Aid training and thankfully never needed to use it, but you're right, some things you just never forget. I assume it's covered in the regular First Aid training, but the training the Emergency version focuses a bit more on is how to help a fully trained First Aider, so I should be the one getting the first aid kit and any other supplies needed, initial contact with emergency services and in the case of this video in that more ideal scenario, diverting traffic around the accident safely. It's funny how often people assume I know everything a First Aider does when my training was to be as helpful of an assistant as possible. They get so let down when I tell them I was taught how to divert traffic, not set a splint. Applying pressure, proper bandage wrapping and chest compressions is the extent of my medical knowledge and I can't even use them in a professional setting anymore.

[@scottlaaa]

6:15 brave sounding the horn near a taxi surprised it doesn’t just go!

[@smasheduppumpkinette]

scottlaaa 1984 🤣

[@afreeman1980]

Good clip. I could write a lot on this one, it's a difficult situation as there are no pedestrian aspects on these signals, presumably not enough time or demand to fit them in. The hedge should, however, be removed. Most similar situations have the guardrails angled to improve visibility, to then have a hedge there totally negates that, it needs shifting.

[@hedgehog3900]

The biker should be happy he wasn't doing a legal 40,the extra speed might have made a huge difference to the ladies injuries. I will stick my neck out and say a lot of bikers (myself included) would be doing 40 despite the wet road and obvious hazards. Thought provoking indeed. Thank you Mr Neal.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

Just because the limit is 40 doesn't make 40 'legal' in the sense of no wrongdoing, it could be deemed excessive speed for the conditions which IMO would have been going through a crossing like that in the wet at 40. The posted speed is the very maximum limit in best conditions, and these were far from best not just weather wise, the rider did almost everything right except a bit of road positioning further to the right of the lane which might have meant being able to avoid them stepping out.

[@KahnuevsKrake]

For those reasons, my default I always lift off the gas and prepare to stop, even if the light is green. Because there's always one person who decides to run across when their light is red. I thank my instructor training me with that mindset.

[@Milos89kv]

Using a horn is a great tip. My instructor pointed this out several times, but I never got this habit later in driving.

[@travellingtom6091]

Thanks Ashley. Improved my driving yet again with this. Never thought of using the horn. People wrongly assume it is to reprimand other road users. Thanks. 👍

[@suzannebradbury]

A similar incident happened to me sort of but it was my fault entirely. No one was hot or hurt etc however. I was approaching a zebra crossing... now these videos have helped me so much in my driving that I immediately spotted two teenagers and thought they’re just going to walk out so I slowed up... and they walked straight past.... however my mind was so fully on them that I didn’t spot a gentleman on the other side (behind a lamppost in black) and I proceeded (albeit at a very slow speed) but he stepped out and I did not see him. A couple of seconds later and I would have hit him. I tried to stop and apologise and explain but I think he was too angry and carried on but oh my god it scared me to death. I hate that crossing now and almost crawl through it and I lean forward to look behind the lamppost and rails now to check. As I say, my fault entirely and my poor observational skills to REALLY PROPERLY look both sides. I was just so fixated on the kids.so even near misses shake you up!

[@sassyboofle6983]

That was an excellent clip , kudos to the motorcyclist for sending in and sharing . Hindsight is a wondrous thing . This gives us all something to think upon and we can all take away from this . And yes I will certainly make sure that I will be paying extra attention as a result of this . Thank you and much appreciated . 👍❤️

[@joythornz]

I do thank you for posting this video. I live in near an area where there are 3 sets of light for each lane. This has given me more awareness regarding pedestrians on this particular example of multi-traffic lights. Agree with using the horn to let others especially pedestrians know of your presence.

[@fredhair]

I know this is in very poor taste but.. 7:03 at least that bag for life was in no danger; '"I'm strong and sturdy" hopefully the old lady is as well even though she doesn't seem to make any attempt to look out for traffic.

[@CactusforceX]

I've been riding a bike (on a cbt license) for many years now and I have to admit, I would have been extremely cautious with the white van blocking my view and the pedestrians who may not have noticed me. Combined with the fact that there was no one behind him, slowing down is no problem. However he did nothing wrong and all of us miss things, especially after a long day at work when we're just desperate to be home! Very brave of him to subject himself to peoples hindsight.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

he really should have been right centre of the lane, but that's the only thing that might have been a criticism.

[@andyowens5494]

Spot on analysis, Ashley. Dont forget, bike helmets in the wet obscure visibility to the point you cant see much detail, so you often cant be sure if you’ve made eye contact (not that either pedestrian even bothered to look up), so your “even slower” comment is what I was doing in my head without verbalising it. Then when you asked what else could the biker have done, the first thing that popped into my head was use the horn, so I’m glad you did the rest of the video :) Its under used, and oft mis-understood, but just because others don’t understand doesn’t mean everyone watching here shouldn’t learn to use it more (when appropriate). Screw the “funny looks” people give you, they’re looking, and my paint ‘aint scratched. Use it early enough to be useful, and short enough to minimise (perceived) offence.

[@dennleavy4407]

My instructor always tells me to be prepared to brake at lights. This perfectly highlights why.

[@patricksavage8519]

Another great learning video. Keep them coming

[@craigrigby]

Good one this and something I think you see a lot. All good learning points these vids and good to remind ourselves of these types of dangers. 👍

[@Anonymous-vh6kp]

Using the horn to alert others of your presence is something which is often over looked I think, a lot of people only use it to express anger sadly. I often use my horn when I can see someone but know they can't see me, or even when I anticipate that someone is going to do something silly, like cutting a blind corner. Great video Ashley, love the high resolution format, it really looks great.

[@wumpty93]

Keep it up Ashley! Brilliant learning points in this video 👍👍

[@oxide_fx]

Another fantastic clip. Very informative. Motorcyclists don't tend to use the horn as much as car drivers do, as they are not nearly as loud or as impactful (too high pitched). However, in these sorts of situations I slow to a crawl and try to make a little more noise by revving the throttle in short bursts. This tends to get most people's attention. The motorcyclist could have attempted a swerve, but there wasn't really enough time to process a reaction. By the time the brain realises that the pedestrians have stepped out onto the road its too late.

[@earlebacciochi9796]

Thanks Ashley, I wish I had better awareness 20 years ago! Driving in pouring rain on duel carriageway, a 9 year old running in the same direction, suddenly darted right at the pelican crossing,just as they changed from flashing amber to green.Luckly bounced off front nearside of transit van.Worst feeling ever as i approach his motionless body, car driver behind me said he was off duty policeman! Then the boy jumped up,I just hugged him! Policeman took him to hospital and home, then phone me to say he was OK but badly bruised!💜💜

[@mgprewett]

Also had a similar experience. One adult and one child cyclist waiting at the kerb of a lay-by. Apparently dad said to daughter, "OK, let's go to Burger King..." at which point she set off across lay-by and A road before he finished the sentence with "... when the road's clear." Managed to bring speed down from 40 to 5, but her head still stove in the windscreen. Interestingly, dad, an army sergeant, refused to call 999; I suspect this was an example of what I believe is called "cognitive paralysis." I did the 999; after one night in hospital she was discharged with no ill effects. There was so much luck involved here. She was wearing her dad's white helmet (too big) because she had "gone off" pink, but it did the job. Another interesting point is that when the police arrived, all I could remember was a series of freeze frames which didn't seem, logically, to be in the right order or make sense. Apparently this is perfectly normal, and is in line with the results of psychological experiments about the reliability of memory.

[@MrWesternDuke]

Another great video with good learning points. Aside from the parties directly involved, the situation was made more hazardous by the vegetation on the left, behind the fence which obscured the view of the pedestrians. Local Highways Authorities / Councils really ought to consider this. From a railway perspective, I have been involved in correcting sighting issues at level crossings where the stopping distances for a train are far longer!

[@Luke-Godzilla]

Fellow biker here, when you are riding in that weather, you are concentrating so hard on not falling because of the conditions that the use of the horn is the last thing to go through your mind. Especially when a situation like that occurs

[@themittonmethod1243]

Hi Ashley, when you posed the question in the commentary asking what could have been done differently, my first two thoughts, in this order, were: tap the horn (it IS a communication device!) and roll off the throttle and cover the brakes (as you note, the rider was already well below the posted limit). Thank you for commentary that is appropriate to motorcyclists and I hope that this helps educate cage (car/truck) drivers a little bit into our world as riders. Cheers from Canada!

[@bravocheesecake3836]

I hope none of the people blaming the pedestrian ever get old, infirm, ill or maybe just have a bad day. You can't expect humans to operate at 100% all of the time. Drivers and pedestrians have responsibility to each other. However drivers have the added responsibility of a large heavy vehicle.

[@mgprewett]

Using a horn can have unexpected results; I remember one time I used a horn to warn two pedestrians in the road, and because I had slowed down both their beer cans hit the car!

[@pjmeaks]

Everything you said there is spot on. I can only add that maybe the bushes which must be atleast 4ft high should be removed. As you cant see the pedestrian till the last second or two..keep up the great work ash..

[@SpeccyMan]

As a pedestrian I see this kind of stupidity every single day. People just stepping onto the road without looking - some of them pushing child buggies! I've always been cautious crossing roads and that very caution has saved my life on 2 separate occasions. I was on a pedestrian crossing - green man lit steady and a bus on the inside lane of a dual carriageway blocking my view of the other lane so I was crossing slowly and carefully - I had taken 3-4 steps on the crossing when the green man started to flash and the driver of the car on the obscured lane took the flashing amber to mean "put your foot down!" - since my view was obscured by the bus I held back and leaned forward a bit to get a better view and it was that action that stopped me getting hit - had I just continued crossing (as was my right) he would've hit me. Only my caution saved me and that driver was 100% in the wrong. As a pedestrian you are the most vulnerable of road users so you must always pay attention and anticipate just as much as any driver or motorcyclist! You cannot (and must not) rely on others to think for you. As a boy I was in the Tufty Club and you never forget what you were taught about being safe on the road. Stop! Look! Listen!

[@pierceatchison2837]

A camera in incidents like these is clearly invaluable, the motorcyclist might have had a harder time with the police had he not had this evidence

[@Hunulven]

i live in a one way street. i look both ways before crossing. Like my driving instructer always said: the last idiot hasn't been born yet

[@ShaimingLong]

My Primary School taught us the same lesson, albeit worded differently. Nobody should just assume an idiotic driver isn't going the wrong way on a one way road.

[@Tommieb86]

I was once waiting at a red light on my bike, there was a pedestrian immediately to my left, a couple of feet away on the pavement waiting to cross. Just as the lights went green and I began to move off, impatience got the better of her and she chose THAT moment to step into the road. We collided (albeit softly), and what followed was a tirade of abuse directed at me from the person (who was absolutely fine) and another nearby pedestrian. The crux of the argument was that I should look where I'm going/slow down/be more considerate/apologise and all number of ridiculous things when you consider that I had all of half a second to react to a zombie pedestrian stepping into my path. I was apologetic, but took absolutely no responsibility for the incident - that's completely on her.

[@RevvedUpBiker]

Spot on with the advice. Use your horn to warn. Catchy enough to remember.

[@PowerPot]

Great video quality!

[@bw-gcp8306]

School kids are the worst. I've had so many near misses. Parents need to teach their kids better. Always remember to take extra precautions as a driver around 3-4pm.

[@Blahsheep]

5:01 I highly disagree. He was already going 10 under the speed limit, he was at a great speed for the conditions. Even if he was going 5 slower there's nothing he could have done differently. I do on the other hand highly agree with the horn might have prevented the situation. Use your horn people. It seems like people in the uk are afraid to use their horn for some reason. Here in Canada it's used pretty common.

[@petstar88]

I get victimized everyday. Why? Because I follow the speed limit. Factor in weather and generally follow the highway code to the letter. I get tailgated, shouted abuse, break checked, and even followed, all because the other people on the road think they own it. Some days makes me not want to go out in the car.

[@archangel6415]

Excellent lesson here!

[@georgecromar4094]

Great vid, another excellent analysis. From the beginning of the the video the motorcyclist is in danger from the road layout vs his speed and road position. In the left half of the M/C's lane there are a series of very large double manhole covers in the road. This may be forcing him to take up a road position in the less grippy centre (oil/fuel dropping from vehicles) of his lane and he is consistently riding on the slippery white arrows painted on the carriage way. As he starts to pass the cars to his right he needs to find a safe balance between his road position and his speed (should a driver on the right suddenly switch left into his lane). Prior to that point consideration to the use of the horn should have been made. Then as you say, what cant be seen in front of the silver van and the pedestrians on the left that can be seen means further speed reduction and further consideration of the horn (consideration because the new reduced road speed may negate the need). Common sense in hindsight, but to be human is...

[@MartyInTheWoods]

Yes! When I saw it already my warning lights went off.. cars are sitting and waiting... what would they be waiting for? Same happened to me once, when I was young... Very good video! also shows, that an accident often happens when both parties make a mistake. Because of the umbrella, the pedestrians did not look and see the motorbike!

[@martigrey5872]

The light is green.

[@piciu256]

What we're the cars waiting for? For a green light dumbass ;)

[@martigrey5872]

@@piciu256 yes the cars had a red light. The biker had a green light. Open your eyes before calling someone names cause you're bling. Look at 0:37 fool

[@piciu256]

@@martigrey5872 fool what did I say?

[@piciu256]

Just think before being offered by something not directed at you.

[@ianhaynes5898]

Some good tips there.

[@CARTMEN700]

Watching the video first time. I was looking to my right the whole time thinking someone's going to pop out past the silver van. It seems to me the way the lady was holding her umbrella didn't help one bit to get a perifheral vision of the traffic.

[@bobhope9287]

when i grew up we had the advert on television for the green cross code man, it just makes us all a little more observant when walking around, maybe we need to bring it back??

[@forevercomputing]

Laying on the ground thinking about claiming compensation on a red light jumper - only to realise they were in the wrong later. You are right, people are scared. If people don't want to use the horn - brake. Do people not read the Highway Code any more?

[@Nichollsaudio]

The amount of times I've nearly hit pedestrians in my local Town when it's a green light for me and they just casually walk into the road not paying attention so I have to emergency stop. So frustrating. Be like the USA and make Jay-Walking illegal haha!

[@alisonwilliams4862]

Poor motorcyclist couldn't have done anything unless he had used the horn which people just don't tend to do - it's perceived more as a way of showing that you're pissed off at a fellow road user than as a warning to them. Pedestrians can be a right pain in the arse though lol. I had to literally stop today for a young couple who were crossing the road as if they had all the time in the world. My first thought when seeing this clip was that they brought it on themselves and I felt annoyed by it but after seeing the elderly woman lying in the road, I felt bad for her and am glad she's ok.

[@johnf3326]

Well analysed. And as we get older and less attentive we might be grateful for a driver's/rider's extra care above and beyond our own responsibilities. As you said, we are in a heavy metal box or on a heavy machine, the pedestrian is merely flesh and blood. Lets adapt and improve Its not about who'a right or wrong its about minimising risk and harm. If someone makes an error then avoid and forgive and hope someone does the same for you one day

[@janmots2829]

There was also the sign warning of traffic lights on the left hand side before the motorcyclist reach them as well as the huge "SLOW" letters on the ground. But as you quite rightly said the fault was with the pedestrian for stepping out in front of them on green. The biker wouldn't have had time to react.

[@jcskyknight2222]

TBF the pedestrians have no indication what color the lights are apart from the stopped van. It’s a poorly designed junction.

[@maxfriis]

The good point in this video is that it's not sufficient to be in the right. You need to strive to do better than being right.

[@chrisprintall1408]

Good Video, Ashley. I'm always very wary about slowing to allow pedestrians cross, especially children, in case someone around me doesn't do the same. I guess many have been in the situation where you proceed cautiously only to be passed at speed.

[@stebob1995]

As a motorbike courier in Liverpool, I 100% agree with you here I would have been slowing down as someone from the right could have been about to walk out(often happens to me ), then using my horn when the couple walked out from the left. hats off to the motorbike rider for riding at a good speed

[@eliz_scubavn]

As a motorcyclist the amount of people who will walk out in front of you is staggering. They seem to assume that you can stop on a dime because you’re on a bike (which can still be heavy at 100kg or more and a big tourer such as a Honda Goldwing is 400kg).

[@HarrietBeaumont]

I had a similar incident a few months ago! Caught on dashcam too. Approaching stopped cars with a keep clear sign on the road. I was in the first lane, large van was in the second, he had already stopped as he wouldn't have been able to clear the keep clear sign before the stopped cars. There was still a car's gap in my lane on the other side of the keep clear sign so I had planned to take it. But as I got closer, a woman and 2 kids stepped out from in front of the van! Luckily I was slowing anyway and able to stop in time, but she obviously saw me brake hard and came over shouting aggressively at me! When I uploaded the video I had one non-driver argue that I was in the wrong, since there was a dropped curb. But I know a dropped curb isn't the same as a zebra crossing. I still had the right of way!

[@radishpea6615]

your summary of the incident is spot on. I agree the horn should have been used. The council should now lower the hedge on the approach side to improve visibility for both road users and pedestrians. The biker did an excellent job to stay upright and not lock the front wheel, this is exceedingly difficult in those situations. You showed a clip where a van stopped and children crossed. I have been faced with the same situation and it worries me that people will cross because they think I have stopped at a read light. Like the van I have stopped due to traffic ahead and not wanting to block the junction should the lights go red. A difficult situation but a good driver passing the stationary vehicle, will, like your pupil be aware and already taking defensive action, well done to them

[@texbankuk]

Positioning was good Rider has spotted both the Big Grid which Would have no grip in those conditions (Possibly Greasy ?)and the Light is Green and The Con was the High hedge Which even with the bikers Line of sight They could not see what was behind that Guessing if I was on foot I could not See either The Pedestrians watching the other lane on Red (stopped Vans ), so assume it's OK to cross. to the refuge PS Motor bike Horns mostly sound like Toys Best Horn Fitted Was to Get this, a Ural combo from Russia (deep wind tone) .I'd be embarrassed if Pressing the Horn Button and La Cucaracha sounds en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Cucaracha (air horns) or something else

[@georgeconnett7812]

I had a similar accident where a cyclist pulled out between a lane of queueing traffic in the left lane, I was travelling around 20 in the right one and they pulled out only looking left- I had no time to respond and luckily only collided with their front wheel knocking us both over

[@smasheduppumpkinette]

Don’t apologise for the rain noise. I love the sound of the rain when I’m in a car. There is something really relaxing about it. I stick on an audio track of car rain noise when I can’t sleep and it works every time.

[@samr5043]

Agree totally with your analysis, use of the horn or lowering speed slightly would have definitely lessened the danger here. In hindsight, the motorcyclist could have covered the brakes in case something like that happened, even if their braking distance would have been longer in the wet. Still, glad all was well in the end.

[@grahamstyles2758]

Great video. You are a fantastic instructor. Definitely the motorcyclist should have sounded his horn. It is intended to warn people of your presence. That is it's primary function!

[@Keithbarber]

That's what the horn is there for to warn of your presence, and to warn of approach when pedestrians are not concentrating

[@pdservices6681]

If the motorcyclists had been doing 20 or 40 he would have missed her, a bit of Sod's law. She should count her lucky stars it wasn't a skip lorry doing 39 mph.

[@Ericbryanmr]

Everytime i see i video like this i always say out loud "didnt even look"

[@ButterflySimmer]

This is why I never start going across the Zebra crossing unless I can tell they're slowing down as sometimes they just go either tho they should have stop.

[@SpeedSetSims]

Should of also waited for the green man,

[@ButterflySimmer]

@@SpeedSetSims well Zebra crossing don't have traffic light control but I do go when everyone has stopped. But agree with your statement

[@martigrey5872]

@@ButterflySimmer is that a zebra crossing? Looks like a normal crossing with traffic lights to me. And the biker has a green light

[@ButterflySimmer]

@@martigrey5872 no I was giving my example. Zebra crossing doesn't have traffic lights but the one on video is a normal traffic light.

[@hikaru9624]

Good on ya! Although you have priority on a zebra crossing you must not assume traffic will yield to you. Making eye contact with the driver or rider helps but again doesn't guarantee they will stop. Always remember there is a possibility they will keep going. And if you're driving, always remember there is a possibility the pedestrian will just walkout on a zebra crossing. When I use the zebra crossing I wave at the stopped traffic as thanks. Thanks cost nothing so why not?

[@CallMeMrRook]

I was just thinking about the use of the horn. I have double lights near me and I am watchful for when it's safe to cross both looking at the lights AND the road users. My dad always uses his horn whenever he exits my driveway and though ice never asked I now wonder if it's because of the obstruction to the right as u leave, warning any pedestrians who are maybe coming from that way. I also feel the big SLOW letters should have given the rider more awareness of potential walkers as well as the LOOK RIGHT for the pedestrians.

[@Luke-Godzilla]

When you are hard braking on a bike, the use of the horn goes out the window, completely.

[@GGMattt]

More concerned with not getting struck by rain than ensuring she's not stuck by a vehicle... purposefully not looking before she crossed the road because the umbrella was her shield 🙄

[@TinyPigy282]

Slowing down would obviously help the situation but what about the cars behind may they get impatient, tailgate or even move lanes dangerously if we are driving slower/braking for traffic lights if they dont see the pedestrian

[@joancave4724]

Someone somewhere came up with a fabulous invention called crossing lights. It’s really easy you press the button and wait until it’s your turn to go, but no people just do what they want it’s so annoying

[@timhoward8313]

And this is why motorbikes should be LOUD! :-) Similar happened to me while years ago while riding a very quiet Yamaha. Changed to a Guzzi with straight-through pipes and people now are looking to see what the hell is coming their way! ;-)

[@TheFlyingBusman]

Technically the guy on the bike was not at fault. Green light on a pedestrian crossing. Traffic on opposite side of carriageway was stationary perhaps leading the pedestrians into a false sense of security, thinking they could cross. I’ve learnt from experience that you should expect anything at anytime. I would have prepared for the worst especially when I’m on two wheels and an emergency stop is more risky. Ashley raises a good point..... use your horn. I get lots of walkers and cyclists on the lanes around me, I give them a quick pip on the horn to make sure they know I’m there. They may think I’m being aggressive or not understand my intentions but at least they get to carry on safely.

[@panman1964]

my only comment (as a motorcyclist) is that IMHO this biker had possibly only recently passed his test as he was riding to the left rather than the right of the greasy strip. That not withstanding he did have an option to move to the right slightly (without braking) to potentially avoid the collision (which is now a part of the PTW test, swerve avoidance). There are also occasions on a bike where the throttle can be used to get you out of (as well as into) trouble. All that said the pedestrians were completely at fault here (apart from anything else her face was covered by her umbrella) and as I 'm sure others have commented WTF is that bush doing on that crossing.

[@paulhebblethwaite7168]

Pedestrian totally at fault. However, I know I keep banging on about it but defensive riding would have probably prevented this. Firstly. Hazard ahead (pedestrian crossing with people standing on edge of pavement). Second. Weather road conditions. Third. Speed. Fourth. Use of horn. The motorcyclist stood no chance in this clip but maybe if they had applied several of the former considerations the collision may not have occurred. Glad no one was seriously hurt.

[@CATALATIC]

On some traffic light post doesn't have a clear good view where pedestrians can see when its safe to cross an when its safe not to cross, it can be hard to see the lights. Some pedestrian crossing is in need of new designs so both pedestrians an road users can see clearly way b4 time of any arising potential hazzards that may occur.

[@RichO1701e]

And this is why they teach the hazard avoidance/swerve test on MOD 1 tests these days. If I'm being brutally honest & critical of the rider; 1) slower speed, Yes he was appropriate for the wet conditions, still, I would have been going slower 2) see the ped's at the crossing, anticipate and plan as if they are going to just step out 3) use the horn to make them aware of your presence 4) position yourself further to the right, just right of the central position in the lane 5) could've done a slow speed swerve, considering you have to perform a swerve manoeuvre at a minimum speed of 30mph on the MOD 1 to even pass.

[@QuilloManar]

It’s also really good that the motorcyclist didn’t try to steer out of this situation. Because the road was wet there was a good chance the bike would slide out from the motorcyclist and injure all three people involved.

[@getouttamyrowboat5658]

At that speed the chances of the bike sliding are no greater than going round a corner. The best bet would of been to roll off the throttle and try and swerve around them. Unless they have the worst nylon tyres available they would of been fine.

[@superiorbeing95]

As a pedestrian I always look at the traffics lights rather than the little green man, if they change to amber while I'm crossing a prepare to become a sprinter, god bless that lady, i always think what if that was my mum.

[@snakeman9902]

Difficult to call, however, with the pedestrians being elderly. Would they have heard the horn? They are old enough to remember the green cross code, they never looked, just walked out. It happened that fast. No wonder the biker was cleared good call. Thankfully, the elderly lady was OK.. In any other conditions, going even slower can give mixed signals to a pedestrian. Thinking you are slowing down to let them cross.. Being on a motorbike, not only are you concentrating on the wet slippery roads what the camera doesn't show is vision is not always the best on a visor. Rain pending, your visor steams up, there is no wipers like a car, so you are constantly wiping your visor, this makes your vision. Not 100%. Had the biker just finished work? Tiredness, same as with cars can make a difference in your reactions and driving /riding. In my humble opinion, we can discuss all day what the biker should and could have done, however, pedestrians also have to take responsibility for their own actions and road awareness.. GREAT VIDEO ASH..

[@wirdy1]

Summed up perfectly.

[@5ynthesizerpatel]

Great points on the use of the horn - goes doubly for bikers especially when you are filtering - don't be afraid to use it bikers, and remember if you piss anyone off, you're the person wearing body armour and wearing/holding a helmet

[@edwardhugus2772]

I feel terrible for that young man, I can only imagine the thoughts going through his head thinking he almost killed someone. I'm glad the lady did well, and has no lasting injury. I find people at shopping malls constantly step out the door of the shop, Never look right or left, and walk to go to their car....not even a glance to see if someone is driving down the traffic lane. Even if you are IN a designated crosswalk, common sense tells me to look both ways....a driver could be distracted for a moment, or it could be an idiot speeding in a parking lot. (Car park for you British folks) I didn't see either of those two people look first, what a shame for everyone involved.

[@na-up6gs]

Ah that's scary!!! I don't want to drive 🤦‍♀️

[@bulwinkle]

Always expect the unexpected.

[@kadajtheremnant]

Thanks Ashley! Can we stop stigmatising the use of the horn as a sign of aggression? So many times I've used the horn and had "middle fingers" and "yelling" at me because of it!

[@maxmac7845]

The manhole covers on the first clip are a hazard to motorcyclists and may have distracted the rider for a short period.

[@leewatson8129]

Positioning the bike to the right of the centre would help. I was always instructed to stay of the centre, the instructor referred to it as the black line of death as it's always more slick especially when wet.

[@hasenphelt526]

Having ridden motorcycles since the late seventies(passed test in1980) my observations are there appears to be metal covers on road approaching crossing (bad for breaking in the wet on M/C) I would have been riding further out and as I am undertaking and cant see to the right I would have dropped speed even more (plus always assume pedestrians will do what you don't expect them to do).

[@LauraLeeX777]

I remember on my lessons my instructor would always says "scan the crossing" at every single set of lights. Used to drive me crazy cause in 2 hours, you pass a LOT of traffic lights. Soon learned how valuable that habit of his was when I scanned the crossing and a woman walked out, face in phone, oblivious to the two cars hurtling towards her. Now I always scan the crossing. Granted, here, that bloody hedge wouldn't have helped, but the tip with the horn certainly will if I happen upon a similar crossing.