Ashton Kutcher And Mila Kunis Are In Hot Water

First day of the new show! Welcome guys! Today we have much to discuss. Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis have landed themselves in hot water after sending a character letter to the judge in their co-star Danny Masterson’s rape case. The internet has blown up with anger and both Ashton and Mila have responded. We’ll react to that. In addition, the famous/infamous “brick girl” remains a topic of conversation on the internet as people go back and forth debating whether or not men should protect women they don’t know. Plus, Novak Djokovic wins the US Open after not being allowed to compete due to jab mandates.
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0:00 - Intro!
1:32 - Would You Have Done What Kutcher & Kunis Did For a Friend?
10:05 - Creepy Things In Ashton & Mila's History
15:41 - Victim Responds to Ashton & Mila's Video
20:13 - Ashton Kutcher & Mila Kunis Response Video
32:45 - The Viral "Brick Girl" Controversy
40:35 - Her Take on Male Protection Went Viral
50:20 - Novak Djokovic Gets Moderna Shot of the Day
55:03 - Superchats!

[@Iridescentlyfe]

What is a forced rape???? Isn't the word rape alone is an act of forcing??

[@lucystoner]

I think he had a gun.

[@PictureMaker22]

Statutory Rape can be consentual, but with one of the parties being underage. As far as I understand, that is the only kind of rape that does not happen as a result of force.

[@Iridescentlyfe]

@@PictureMaker22 hmm I see thank you!

[@TopHatNat]

It's similar to aggravated assault, simple assault and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. They are all different degrees of seriousness and descriptions. I get your point though.

[@ortho-g9826]

Yes, like is there unforced rape??

[@nancypanasyuk8860]

That’s wild he got 30 years and convicted pedophiles get out in less time. Lack of priorities in our justice system.

[@brusso456]

a woman kills 2 men and gets 15 years, this guy bangs some chicks and get 30 to life. there is no evidence just testimony that is questionable.

[@BD-11B_OIF-1]

I will agree with you about that part. Rape is still absolutely horrible. However, I also think that pedophiles should get more time than rapists, in my own personal opinion.

[@wheatstonebridge]

The court doesnt like scientolgoy

[@nancypanasyuk8860]

@@wheatstonebridge seems like they dislike Scientology more than pedophiles. Which is still a lack of priorities.

[@lovelydovy660]

​@user-yo4jp8rv6b I was wondering about that bc who gives someone THAT much time?! I mean what he did was terrible,but it's not like he killed them!

[@rhondapatterson1]

My abusive first husband backhanded me in our pick-up truck with the bed of the truck full of his fellow marines. When we reached our destination I was so disappointed that not one of the marines came to my aid in any way. I felt so betrayed by men that I thought would at least say something to a man hitting a woman in their presence. My head hit the back window so I know they were aware. Just made me feel so disappointed and alone. I was 3,000 miles away from home as a newly married young woman. I got out of that marriage and am so grateful to my parents for helping me, but men betrayed me, I felt.

[@claff4573]

They'll be the same ones to say feminists are just lying about what happens

[@seekingserenity1902]

They totally failed you. Most men aren't worth the paper they are printed on but I find this is for both sexes. Humanity is just a big disappointment in general. Choose those you bring close to you wisely.

[@AndresD.deLeon]

Abuse is never okay, but, as messed up as it sounds, men shouldn't defend women that aren't theirs. Men may have families to protect and provide for, and they should only risk their health and life for that family. I'm not justifying your ex-husband hitting you, but don't expect random men to protect you unless they're either related to you or your lover.

[@Sunny_Day976]

It's good advice to never intervene in an abusive relationship. When the authorities are called ,the women always mostly side with their abuser and then you are left holding the ball. If it's your sister or a woman you know very well and worth going to jail for then go ahead, else would never intervene.

[@FreefallSC]

In fairness there were and still are people calling for a man to be in prison for life for trying to protect a train full of people. Society has spoken loud and clear and most of them seemed to think that men shouldn’t step in to protect others. The man is on trial right now and may do prison time for trying to protect a train full of others. This is what many people and the criminal justice system seems to have chosen.

[@user-qu7wy9rs1h]

Writing a character letter for someone does not excuse the crime committed. Nor would it get someone out of prison, its not fair to judge 2 people based on that. This lets cancel everyone for everything they do is getting rediculous

[@night_owl365]

I agree. Their experiences with him weren't violent. They weren't r*ped by him. He was their friend. (I'm not even sure he's guilty. As far as I could research it was he said she said?)

[@donkalina1543]

I do agree with that last sentence, but maybe its just because I deliberately stay away from people like that, but I haven't heard anyone say they were trying to cancel them for the letters! I've only heard people saying it was either wrong or stupid for them to try and defend an alleged rapist! Personally, imo, they were just stupid for not thinking it through on how this would look! However their "apology" was super fake! Just the way they worded evetything! 100% PR rehearsed!!

[@nightshadehelis9821]

Could you imagine writing a character letter for Hitler just because he was cool with you? I do agree that cancel culture is bullshit, but they wrote a letter about a guy who was convicted of drugging and raping women. It's pretty messed up.

[@JGMarine]

Yup, character letters are written all the time. That’s all it is, a letter of the person that you knew them to be. It isn’t defending them or their crimes.

[@dilancicek-we6nd]

Taylor is a reptillian

[@SwimSweetie100]

The Ashton and Mila thing is a tough one. I can imagine it would be very difficult to process your friend of 25 years is a rapist. Maybe they are in denial or maybe they have avoided the details of the case so the idea of their friend isn’t shattered. Humans are flawed and I can imagine some of the cognitive dissonance going on when it comes to their friend.

[@kristy5698]

Yes that’s a tough one, and I’m a huge fan of that’s 70s show & it’s actors. I don’t doubt that someone in that show has been in major trouble with the law. But also, Tell me one person that doesn’t have a bad past. That’s every single one of us, we’ve all been involved in some kind of crimes (minor or major) It does seem that Danny is guilty here, but there’s no need for Mila & Ashton to get hate that they most likely had no knowledge of or had anything to do with it. That’s just my perspective, and I’ve been a victim myself of SA

[@claff4573]

They knew about it and were also friends with the accusers

[@alexwestconsulting]

"avoided the details of the case". What details exactly? Don't you mean "testimony"?

[@BendyLilZebraBabe]

My issue (people being upset at the Kutcher's JUST writing a letter for a friend) with is all of this is form this perspective: I have actually been in a situation where I was seriously harmed as a child and no one believed me and it took years for the person to be arrested and my testimony was still cast out. So I know what it's like to be a victim and not be believed. I know what it's like to be a victim and not be believed by the justice system your own family and your own neighborhood. And to have all of them either bully or in some cases terrorize you for their lack of belief in your assault. I have also been in a couple of situations where male friends of mine were falsely accused of assault. And in at least one of the cases I was actually present when the assaults were supposed to have happened and know for fact that the male wasn't even in the vicinity at the time or where he was there is absolutely no possibility of him doing the things they say. The females lying know other people who could attest to his innocence were present also some of these times. But they still lied was able to get him investigated. He was never charged and the case had to be dropped because the police found no evidence. Even though they had to state in the records not only were the charges dropped no evidence found of his guilt but they also found inconsistencies in the stories of the females and evidence that actually pointed towards the females either lying and/or in some cases actually being guilty of some type of assault themselves. Still that did not stop them. They went on to try to perpetrate a social media campaign against them. And that has seriously damaged his reputation and business. No one bothered to read the police report that exonerated him and even stated that they could not even charge it with everything. No one read the police record that clearly states that he was never charged; a combination of the fact that they found no evidence to do so but also found evidence of the females lying. But because we no longer live in a land of innocent until proven guilty. Everyone is guilty depending on which special protected group the accuser comes from! So when asked do I see a situation where I would write a letter like that boyfriend. In a situation like that if my friend had been able to be railroaded! I definitely would have wrote as many letters as I had two until the truth came out! And I'm going to assume that Amala comes from a very sheltered Society if she don't know that innocent people get imprisoned for rape sexual assault and even murder in court all across the world. Nevermind our nation's own history with doing this to people! I'm not saying that this Masterson guy is innocent. I won't make that judgment having not being able to see the evidence that was presented against the dude. From everything that I read it says it's the only evidence that was used to conviction him was the woman's testimony. I'm hoping that is not the case. If that is the case and he's guilty then okay well done justice system. But if that is the case and he's innocent then... I am not making a decision until I see evidence one way or the other. Before anyone can jump onto me about my views if you have evidence links to evidence whatever I'm willing to read them. So send. If not I'm entitled to my opinion for the which I have my own past experiences that has led me to it.

[@Alicia-yn6gt]

⁠@@BendyLilZebraBabeI appreciate your perspective. You’re right, a lot of people are put in jail despite being innocent. Maybe they feel he’s innocent. I’ll have to look into the case too.

[@lilsbourne]

I don't understand why Ashton and Mila are under attack. They probably don't believe that he is guilty and there were many cases with celebrities who were innocent. I'm not saying he is innocent but I understand that his friends believe in him. And what happened to the freedom of speech that americans are so proud of? Are they not allowed to defend their friend and tell their truth?

[@erikablu429]

it’s so dumb. why does anyone care. ashton and mila have done more positive than all of these keyboard warriors combined for rape victims, child abuse victims, and now they are getting burned at the stake? gosh. you can literally do everything right in today’s society and someone is gonna whine and want you canceled!!

[@iiiiii7739]

They believe he did it tho, this was after he was found guilty, characters letter are meant to have the judge have leniency in the sentencing. And u freedom of speech weirdos are so dumb. Everyone has freedom of speech but not freedom of consequence. U can say what ever u want but don’t expect people to want to support u after

[@lilsbourne]

@@iiiiii7739 I know what a letter of character is and I stand by what I said. I don't appreciate your rudeness and arrogance, but perhaps your parents have failed you somehow or you have a mental illness of some sort. Anyway I am very sorry for you. I hope you'll get better.

[@ShidachiOm]

Because it means they are hypocrites. They wrote these letters _after_ the conviction. These people who supposedly stand for SA victims Wrote letters to the presiding judge in an attempt to ensure that a convicted rapist got a lighter sentence. This despite the fact that they claimed the letter was not an attack on the judicial system, meaning they were not protesting an unjust conviction. So the notion that they didn't believe it doesn't hold water by their own admission. He did it. They knew he did it. They are on record saying they don't believe he should be punished for it to the full extent of the law. The reasonable conclusion is that they truly don't think there's anything wrong with what he did. In other words, SA is wrong unless a rich and influential person like themselves does it to a poor and powerless person. Then it's just fine. Can you see how this makes any attempt on their part to claim that they "stand with women" a disgusting lie?

[@MichaelNNY]

Its that raging disease of virtue signaling that is infecting this country. This guy might have done this, he might have not (guilty verdicts just mean some people believed what other people say), but they have every right to defend him based on THEIR experience. He could be a true monster that deserves to be in a hole for the rest of his life, or he could be framed for money. Doesnt matter. People in this country will scream and rail about what other people do just so they can show the world just how virtuous they are.

[@hi_mynameis263]

If that woman heard of a crime, she is incriminating herself as well.

[@kat7047]

Statute of limitations.

[@pamjames9077]

Statue of limitation doesn’t apply to murder. She and he should’ve come forward and because they didn’t it’s obstruction of justice. Unless a lawyer can prove it’s hearsay.

[@jadesea562]

I have written a character statement for a friend. She was convicted of trafficking narcotics and she was guilty. She knew what she was doing, but she was also a caring mother and a trustworthy friend. The dilemma she faced is that the judge and the court did not know her as a person, and the depth of their understanding of her as a person was limited to the narrow scope of the charges. That is exactly why character statements matter. It was not to apologize for her making felonious choices and being a criminal, it was to tell the justice system details about her humanity and to soften the edges of it viewing her as only something to be justifiably punished. My character statement drew out a complete picture of my personal experiences with her as a good human being, describing how she functioned in life as a mother and friend. Risking my business reputation and personal reputation was a negligible risk because I was simply describing my position as her friend. Her choices have nothing to do with me or my life, but the justice system deserved to have a global perspective of the human being they were dealing with. Period. Ashton and Mila should be left alone, and the young woman publicly blasting them is so far below decent that it simply doesn't surprise me because we live in cruel times.

[@kenneth3753]

Narcotics are a huge difference from violent crime in my opinion. I

[@svennielsen633]

My point exactly: a criminal may also be a victim, and that should be taken into consideration. If she felt forced to take this step, blame society for not giving her a better choice.

[@Letycs]

I don't think character statements are important because they have nothing to do with what a person did and should not even be given a chance to effect the outcome of the consequences for your actions. We don't need to know that you were a good father and a great partner, etc., because it doesn't and SHOULDN'T diminish what you did. Actions have consequences and character statements only exist to make you look like a better person than you were in the moment of your crime. In this case, it doesn't matter if you thought she was a good friend and a great mother. She was participating in illegal activity and should receive the penalty she deserves for it. Point blank, period. Her being a good person outside of dealing narcotics means abso-fucking-lutely nothing. As far as Ashton and Mila - you're being told your friend is guilty and being convicted of not one, but two accounts of rape. It's one thing to make a statement about your friendship, it's different to make a statement hoping said character statement makes a difference in the outcome of his punishment. If this was even my kid, I'd never ask for what I say about them to make such a difference and would condemn their actions if they did what they did.

[@svennielsen633]

@@Letycs - I think that you are wrong. Let us go through it: 1. a character statement gives an evaluation of who you are as a person. If this is not a persons normal way of behavior, you should ask the question: what made him/her do it? What is the fault of society that made a person do it? Remember: only the pure can throw the first stone! 2. dealing narcotics should not be excused. But again: I want to understand the reason: was the person under threat? Desperate? Indoctrinated? Tempted? First: let us get to the bottom of the reason, then we can evaluate the crime. Clearly, Scientology is NOT a good environment to live or grow up in, but as I said: I want to get the full picture before judging anyone. 3. these days a conviction is not that impressive on me. Too many criminals go free, too many innocent people are convicted of crimes. If you are raped: go to the police at once and let them get the evidence, do not come back with accusations years later. It is easy to be on high moral grounds if you have not been in the situation.

[@Letycs]

@@svennielsen633 You're free to believe that, I simply disagree. A character statement isn't trying to figure out where you went wrong to understand the situation better. It's an attempt to excuse your behavior/choices by only talking about the parts of you that had nothing to do with what you did. Aka 'soften the edges'. I don't care to know how good of a person you or anyone who likes you thinks you are. All that matters are the facts of the crime. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't need to understand why you did it to say you deserve to face the consequences of your actions. Same thing goes for situations like people stealing from others because they can't afford food, etc. You not being able to afford food doesn't justify you stealing from others and you knew the consequences of getting caught before you did it. An explanation is not an excuse. These people aren't sorry for what they did, they're only sorry they got caught. If this guy could've raped them and gotten away with it, he would have and he would've kept doing it. If she could have gotten away with dealing narcotics she would have and she'd still be doing it. They can all rot in prison.

[@boba6890]

As a former prosecutor I find the backlash against Kutcher and Kunis unsurprising. People can feel it's wrong for friends to write anything in support at sentencing yet there's a fundamental misunderstanding of how the criminal justice system works. Such letters are standard, even for rape or murder. The letters made no difference; Masterson received 30-life, meaning he's not eligible for parole until 77 (he'll likely die in prison). I handled a case where a man with an extensive criminal record shot his girlfriend point-blank in the head. Post-conviction he received an 8 year sentence. The victim miraculously survived yet suffered such catastrophic brain damage she could barely function; her life was destroyed. That defendant had only 2 letters asking for leniency in sentencing because he had only 2 friends; both were also criminals. Why did Masterson get 30-life and that defendant 8 years? No one cared about the blameless victim who was shot in the head or the convicted defendant who was incredibly violent, dangerous, had previously been convicted of violently assaulting other people, and had then committed that horrific shooting since neither were celebrities. The victim and the incredibly violent convict were poor nobodies so no one cared what happened to either of them.

[@anaguillen5063]

That’s crazy! Jeezzz

[@windyhawthorn7387]

Seen that, the same year a man was sentence 30 years for a crime he did not commit. And the witness aka the victim who testified against him recanted her statement and said she was lying. That same year a man killed a newborn and only got a few months and it was no doubt he did it on purpose. But then again no one cared about home but the man who got 30 years was a close friend of someone they hated and they hated the fact that they couldn't put his friend in prison for a crime he didn't commit so they got his friend because they thought it would hurt him.

[@amieaiello3456]

Even repeated pedophiles get less time than Danny. The justice system is inconsistent indeed.

[@herbandgin3437]

Agreed. Issue here is that I have seen many times in the news media of other violent offender who murdered their victims get less time served. Sad how our justice system has absolutely no consistency. The legal system in the U.S is so broken with Judges who make decisions base on their political ambitions.

[@rotemg7330]

that's exactly what i thought when i heard the sentence: 30 years? i never saw anyone get more than like 7 years for rape. why is this person so exceptionally different? are there grewsome details in his case that the public is unaware of? maybe, but i have a feeling they simply wanted to make an example out of him with this sentence.

[@V23325]

These letters are literally meant to give the judge a complete picture of the individual when they go to sentencing. Ashton saying he hopes his words help is just acknowledging the purpose of the letter. Danny Masterson can be both a horrible person who did terrible things and also a good friend and loving husband and caring father. No one asked that he be let out or not sent to prison at all, the only asked that his whole personhood be taken into account. This is a part of the justice system the same way victim impact statements are. It is possible to both love someone and recognize they caused incredible harm and suffering.

[@kat7047]

BTK was an upstanding citizen who was married with children went to church and considered a pillar in the community. He was a serial rapist and murderer. If he was an amazing friend to you would you write a character witness letter for him? Perhaps he could get less time and get out and murder more women and children. Your thought process is flawed.

[@paulan7218]

I don’t care if your mother freaking Theresa six days a week if your jack the ripper on day seven you’re still in evil friggin person. And just because someone is nice to you, doesn’t mean they’re nice to everyone and if you stay friends with someone that evil to everyone around them but you, that makes you evil as well.

[@GreenRxses23]

The purpose of the letter was to get him a lighter sentence. Why else would his personhood need to be taken into consideration?

[@mandamoo8746]

Yes, to this! Great perspective! My cousin's bf got on drugs and killed a guy. He's in jail til he's old & grey now. Doesn't stop the fact he still makes sure his kid gets bday & Xmas gifts every year & was ONCE a wonderful guy (before drugs were involved). She acknowledges he did wrong but still hoped the judge would give him some leniency. When you care about someone, I guess that's just what you do ....Doesn't take away the fact they did something bad.

[@nb-mr9mz]

@V23325 this comment should be pinned. Some great people have done horrible things. You hit the nail right on the head.

[@michaelc9915]

A guy I used to work with was charged and convicted of rape, he also asked for a character letter from our boss which our boss refused to do. Two years later the conviction was overturned.

[@kylefrost2119]

So what. They wrote a letter on behalf of a long time friend who was convicted on testimony alone with absolutely zero evidence to back it up. They wrote him a simple character letter. It didn’t diminish anyone. I don’t like the virtue signaling couple, but this is ridiculous.

[@JacoWium]

Agreed. All the outrage about the french kissing among the actors on That 70s Show is equally as nonsensical. In my days as a teenager we made out with girls at that age (at 14, if not a couple of years before) and learning the ropes with french kissing was a natural part of the deal. Sometimes the girl was a year or two younger, other times a bit older. There is no scandal attached to it in any way. Somehow now the word "grooming" is thrown about in discussions about Mila Kunis, as if young people are only supposed to have a first french kiss after 18...? When did everybody suddenly turn into a puritan moralist? Oh yeah, everybody pretends to be an angel on social media, of course. Disclaimer: Anybody who claims my post is a defence of Danny Masterson or rape culture deserves to get some bird flying overhead defecating on his/her face today.

[@paulan7218]

Do you always defend rapists or just the ones that belong to a cult?

[@BWH571]

​@@paulan7218a character letter is not defending a rapist or any other type of potential criminal (innocent until proven guilty not the other way around, plus they didnt know what the verdict would be or what the evidence was against him at the time their letter was written) Its simply a letter stating how one person perceives another based on how they have been treated in the past. One person's experience of someone won't always be the same person to person. It doesn't make it right or wrong...its just one person's experience of another.

[@JacoWium]

@@paulan7218 Do you always see only what you want to see in someone else's comment?

[@sandrablevins1929]

Plus people assumed he was a rapist even tho their verdict wasn't in simply because he is part of the Church of Scientology idk there wasn't any proof other than there testimony from what I've seen and that's not enough to take someone life away especially after 20 yr+

[@HelgaGrace2007]

He's more than just the Face, and a worker at the Thorn Foundation, he's the co-founder Don't forget Mila also lied to the producers about her age. After she got the role, and the school year was starting was when everyone found out her real age. The producers tried to fire her BECAUSE she was 14, and Ashton was 5 years older.

[@hannahz6848]

Yes I’m disappointed that this wasn’t mentioned.

[@stepford702]

I had to write a character letter for my father. In short, I said I love him. He's kind and compassionate to people. He has literally given the shirt off his back to homeless people. Several times. But I don't know what he's capable of when he's drunk. And he will never stop drinking.

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

What did he do when he's drunk?

[@denisegaylord382]

Prayers for you and your family. May your dad finally stops running away from Jesus. There is hope, truth, and love when we fully accept Jesus as our friend, Lord, and Savior. Through Him comes ultimate healing and redemption. 🤗💗🙏

[@elizabethfindlay5752]

Love and honesty. We need more honest, looking at reality and not doing something to appease another, people like you.

[@emmasummers893]

I'm personally not mad at Ashton or Mila. They wrote a character reference based on the man that they knew. I imagine it's probably hard to grasp that their friend who they've known for so long is capable of the acts he has been accused and convicted of.

[@erikablu429]

it’s so dumb. why does anyone care. ashton and mila have done more positive than all of these keyboard warriors combined for rape victims, child abuse victims, and now they are getting burned at the stake? gosh. you can literally do everything right in today’s society and someone is gonna whine and want you canceled!!

[@misshestermofet2288]

My ex was convicted of child rape and his friends refuse to believe it.

[@dianaortiz9775]

It’s not hard to grasp if they been dealing with the rape charges for over 20 years on victims they actually knew. Stop excusing bad behavior for Ashton and Mila. Danny is a convicted rapist after drugging multiple woman. To say he’s a role model. WTF! It’s re traumatic for the victims. They are the only people that count 😮

[@ashleenicole71]

It was after he was convicted for a lenient sentence. They have a organization they help called thorn. It was already under suspension about being a front to help with s ex trafficking. This isn't going to help them. They thought the letters would remain private... I guarantee they never would have done it had they known it would be public record. Which speaks volumes. They know more on his true character. Him and Ashton were apparently good friends who hung out a lot.

[@tmorgan7939]

This, like so many things, is about optics. Sure, he is a friend, but at the same time, Kutcher's foundation is fighting the fight against human trafficking. Not necessarily the same crimes, but both fall into the realm of sexual violence. In my mind it looks terrible if you acknowledge the evil that the guy did but do you not call that strong punishment should be applied because he is a friend. ? Well, let's do the same for all the traffickers - they must have friends and families that believe in them also. Let's provide softer penalties for all - that will give a GREAT message to the victims.

[@bela-sofia34]

The content, tone and structure of the letter to the judge is consistent with what is asked for and reflects the guidelines requested when securing these letters.

[@lindz758]

For me, 'innocent until proven guilty' will always be above the 'believe all women' sentiment, it's unfortunate this was not the case for this situation but I wouldn't want to live in a society that was the other way around.

[@Seliz463]

“Innocent until proven guilty” is a neutral position that encourages investigation. “Believe all women” is a biased position that shuts down any inquiry. It’s not a choice between two biased slants, as the culture seems to suggest. It’s a choice between truth-seeking versus confirmation-bias. We cannot sustain a world of “believe all women.” It can only devolve into injustice and evil

[@iiiiii7739]

The thing is he was proven guilty before the letters

[@a.p.7589]

Totally agree

[@intermezzono1]

​@@iiiiii7739when are the letters dated? the cases I know, character references were written months and months ago. not a week before trial.

[@iiiiii7739]

@@intermezzono1 character letter are usually after the verdict but before the sentence. Letters are there to try to lessen the sentencing. He was found guilty in May and the letters are dated in July before his sentencing

[@Simbience]

No, I do not believe she was groomed on the show. Also she did lie about her age to get on the show when she auditioned.

[@katherineconsiglio5707]

A 14 year old was absolutely groomed on the show are you kidding. She is 14!!!!! Doesn’t matter morally that she lied lol she’s a child!!!!!!

[@melissalenz7132]

Ummm. They have to do checks and legal paperwork before you can even get paid. So I don't believe they didn't know but they didn't care.

[@1965KareBear]

This whole thing makes me sick. The part that makes me sick the most is the ex-girlfriend's case being thrown out. I'm sorry boyfriends and even spouses can rape. I was raped at knifepoint by my then-husband in front of our 2 and half-year-old son. I tried fighting but stopped when our son started screaming Daddy don't hurt my mommy over and over. Yes, I called the police, and I was told I deserved what I got, because you've taken away his manhood.. You see I was in the Army and he was out of work at that time. I can also honestly say I had been sexually abused in my home since I was 5 years old. No woman deserves to be raped. I'm glad he was convicted and will be behind bars for a long time. I am a Constitutionalist and believe in the Laws of our Nation so Yes, I believe everyone is innocent until proven guilty and I despise the "believe all women" moment.

[@Robisquick]

You’re stronger than anybody could possibly give you credit for, and I mean that from the bottom of my heart. You’re amazing! And even more that you are able to stick to fundamentally just and reasonable principles despite such a traumatic incident. It can be hard to stay principled after a trauma. We tend to become very skewed to our view of other people and the world and project that there has to be change and sacrifice must be made to meet that end. So that’s badass. Wish you the best

[@willknowsright9615]

I'm sorry you went through that

[@MLIrons]

And some ex-girlfriends lie. So, what's the point?

[@ScoopDogg]

@@MLIrons was just about to write the same comment

[@YahwehisGodandYeshuaisKingiamr]

Prayers God heals you from all the trauma in Yeshua's name amen. I was graped as a child as well and it's definitely not something easy to overcome. Shame on those cops for saying that "you deserved it". They deserve to loose their jobs.

[@michellenegron313]

I have seen women be aggressive to men then get attacked for doing so. Each time I have seen that... no one, including myself, felt particularly inclined to fight for those women. And amen to the lady in the reaction video.

[@airinmaz729]

My sister and her husband wrote character letters about a coworker who was convicted of rape of a minor over 15 years ago based only on the testimony of the girl who made the charges. Even though she recanted her testimony on the stand (the judge said that she was too young to recant because she was 15) and there were witnesses who came forward saying that she said that she was going to lie and accuse him of the crime, he received a sentence of over 30 years. I think that it is a good thing to write character letters whether or not a person is convicted of a crime. A guilty verdict may be the correct outcome, but maybe not. In a character letter you are just saying what you know.

[@jturquoise]

No There’s more to it Ashton and Mila have some bullshit foundation to stop sex trafficking. So yeah. Those letters mean more with this context.

[@windyhawthorn7387]

I know someone who is in prison for the same thing a false witness who recanted her statement and said she was lying but he still went to prison. So I know also first hand just because someone is found guilty doesn't mean they are.

[@Hustler7227]

When you aren't sure if something happened as terrible as this, stay in your own lane.

[@jturquoise]

@@windyhawthorn7387 lol You obviously haven’t seen the interviews with this creep Danny and Ashton and Wilmer. You’re a fool. It’s pretty obvious. It’s not like they tried to hide their true colors. They’ve been open about it in the interviews. They’re scum. Clearly guilty. Danny Masterson stated in an interview that Mila Kunis was hotter when she was 14. He was around 22 when she was 14. So yeah . Lock him up. And let him get it.

[@macairhead5137]

@@Hustler7227what does that even mean. You have zero facts like the rest of us.

[@The_1995_]

I don’t really know a lot about this case but Mila and Ashton did nothing wrong. They have all been friends and coworkers with Danny for 25 years so of course they feel like they know him well and they feel like he is truly innocent why would they not attest to that? Alot of the times the public takes accusations and runs with them it’s suppose to be innocent until proven guilty not guilty until proven innocent. Ashton also is the cofounder of Thorn and he fired Danny from their show The Ranch when these accusations came out. What more do you want from them?

[@erikablu429]

it’s so dumb. why does anyone care. ashton and mila have done more positive than all of these keyboard warriors combined for rape victims, child abuse victims, and now they are getting burned at the stake? gosh. you can literally do everything right in today’s society and someone is gonna whine and want you canceled!!

[@erikablu429]

@@Thelostplanet789 why would i care that ashton and mila made character letters. i am a rape victim. but I completely understand that my abuser was not altogether a terrible person just because of the thing he did to me. I would never expect his friends and family to think he was a terrible human being, he made a terrible choice, but that’s not his entire character. And frankly, it would be none of my business if they wrote a character letter. I feel like most of the people in these comments don’t even understand what a character letter is and why it is used. It’s not ashton and Mila saying he’s a great guy, it’s just I’m giving their honest view of who he was when they knew him. they are under oath, do you want them to lie and say he was a terrible person? When that’s not who they knew him as?

[@Karce963]

The woman at 45:00 shared some of the best advice I've ever heard. Thank goodness some families are so grounded and thoughtful with their contributions to society. Eloquent speech and fair-minded views 👏👏👏

[@twystedhumour]

And it's a shame that "caution" and "concern" are automatically viewed as "control." I'm like, you're THAT sensitive and concerned about semantics when you're "freedom" may get you hurt, raped, and/or killed?

[@RomyQuinzel]

I personally do not agree with the woman at 45:00, only because I have no brothers, and my father is sexist. But I do take the same advice from my mother. And yes, it is not control but caution! It also gives you a gut feeling in specific situations. It sucks to have less freedom to even walk in specific places, but this is the world we live in, and I'd rather be safe than sorry.

[@jmski25]

💯 she is spot on. My father taught me to drive a manual transmission… not because I had a desire to own a manual transmission car. He did so that I would never be in a situation that I couldn’t get myself to safety.

[@sendmail7426]

It goes same with God. He says to do things for your own good. If you eat unclean foods then you get sick it’s your own fault. All sin causes you to prematurely die

[@taytmw18]

I don't see it as a problem for them to show support for their friend in the hopes that he isn't guilty. If they knew the truth, that would be a whole different story. It's like the people who stand by their children when they are accused of crimes because that is what parents are supposed to do

[@jamba622]

They know the truth

[@intermezzono1]

​@@sammybam77so you are saying their job was to research the whole trial, evidence and everything before writing what their personal experience was? So if you never saw someone do anything bad, you should... lie and say you did?

[@claff4573]

They were friends with the accusers. They knew the truth they just didn't want him to be sentenced. You friends are different people when they aren't around you.

[@kat7047]

He was already convicted.

[@BendyLilZebraBabe]

Don't listen to everyone on here just responded to you will see them are people that's going on multiple comments and harassing commenters. I'm assuming you possible victims with unresolved issues maybe. Or they're just your average liberal white Karen that believes they're really social justice warriors for everyone even when there's no injustice to warrior against. I wonder why they never Step2 think won the fact that maybe yes Ashton and Mila do you know the details of the case and they also know your friend that's why they wrote the character letter. Maybe they do not believe he is guilty. And from everything that I have seen that is released publicly about the case the only evidence was the statement of the accuser's. It was actually evidence that may be able to point to him not being guilty that was excluded.

[@dc8201]

Im okay with the letter Ashton Kutcher wrote. He was at a moral dilemma to support his friend or distance himself from it. It would have been so easy to say no but at Ashton and Mila stand by their childhood friend. He wrote a letter to the judge on the friend he knew for years based on his perspective and experience. Kutcher didnt discredit the crime and never said he shouldnt be punished. I see this as almost the same situation with former NFL player Henry Ruggs. David Carr, the team's QB at didn't discedit the crime he committed but also said that Ruggs needed support during that time and if no one would then he would still support him.

[@claff4573]

He has discredited the victims for decades. Stop trying to normalize this because you'd do this for your friends and befriend people like this. He was trying to reduce the sentencing by using his fame. It's not okay and if it was someone being deleted or a man at that you wouldn't defend this

[@rozannaedwro934]

@dc8201, As a woman I agree with your comment. 👍👍👍

[@WeepingValkyrie]

As another woman who has also been through some shit I also whole heartedly agree with your comment

[@kenneth3753]

My question is would you say the same thing if it was your daughter he abused?

[@BendyLilZebraBabe]

​@@kenneth3753My issue (people being upset at the Kutcher's JUST writing a letter for a friend) with is all of this is form this perspective: I have actually been in a situation where I was seriously harmed as a child and no one believed me and it took years for the person to be arrested and my testimony was still cast out. So I know what it's like to be a victim and not be believed. I know what it's like to be a victim and not be believed by the justice system your own family and your own neighborhood. And to have all of them either bully or in some cases terrorize you for their lack of belief in your assault. I have also been in a couple of situations where male friends of mine were falsely accused of assault. And in at least one of the cases I was actually present when the assaults were supposed to have happened and know for fact that the male wasn't even in the vicinity at the time or where he was there is absolutely no possibility of him doing the things they say. The females lying know other people who could attest to his innocence were present also some of these times. But they still lied was able to get him investigated. He was never charged and the case had to be dropped because the police found no evidence. Even though they had to state in the records not only were the charges dropped no evidence found of his guilt but they also found inconsistencies in the stories of the females and evidence that actually pointed towards the females either lying and/or in some cases actually being guilty of some type of assault themselves. Still that did not stop them. They went on to try to perpetrate a social media campaign against them. And that has seriously damaged his reputation and business. No one bothered to read the police report that exonerated him and even stated that they could not even charge it with everything. No one read the police record that clearly states that he was never charged; a combination of the fact that they found no evidence to do so but also found evidence of the females lying. But because we no longer live in a land of innocent until proven guilty. Everyone is guilty depending on which special protected group the accuser comes from! So when asked do I see a situation where I would write a letter like that boyfriend. In a situation like that if my friend had been able to be railroaded! I definitely would have wrote as many letters as I had two until the truth came out! And I'm going to assume that Amala comes from a very sheltered Society if she don't know that innocent people get imprisoned for rape sexual assault and even murder in court all across the world. Nevermind our nation's own history with doing this to people! I'm not saying that this Masterson guy is innocent. I won't make that judgment having not being able to see the evidence that was presented against the dude. From everything that I read it says it's the only evidence that was used to conviction him was the woman's testimony. I'm hoping that is not the case. If that is the case and he's guilty then okay well done justice system. But if that is the case and he's innocent then... I am not making a decision until I see evidence one way or the other. Before anyone can jump onto me about my views if you have evidence links to evidence whatever I'm willing to read them. So send. If not I'm entitled to my opinion for the which I have my own past experiences that has led me to it.

[@johnpaul4597]

Here's the thing, when Mila kunitz first got on that 70 show. She lied and told the producers she was 16. So they thought that she was a 16 year old girl when they wrote the kiss Scene in. She admitted that they didn't find out her true age until later.

[@dianedoody6408]

I don't believe it...there's contracts to sign and parents involved 🙄😶

[@jenniferjensen5041]

Right! You can search for the interview where she talks about how she lied about her age, it's out there.

[@johnpaul4597]

@dianedoody6408 Throughout hollywood history many young people have lied about their age to get into contract. Many parents have lied about their kids ages well because money/fame drives people to do all kinds of things. Don't get me wrong, though. Hollywood gets people trapped in contracts as well. And they do lure in young people. And they groom people as well, so I'm not excusing them. But Mila kunitz did admit to lying to them.

[@jhawkkw87]

@@dianedoody6408 Mila is a Ukrainian immigrant and their family fled the Soviet Union in the very early 1990s with only a couple hundred dollars to their name. Her parents were involved, but sadly money is the root of all evil and her parents likely allowed her to be put in that position in order to make money for the family even at the detriment of her own safety.

[@jamba622]

She actually said she was 18 to get the audition. They didn't want school-aged cause, then they would have to deal with tutors, filming breaks, etc. But I've read in Vanity fair that when she was offered the part, she had to come clean, and they hired her anyway.

[@livingfortheplot]

My first boyfriend was senior in highschool (19) when I was a freshman (14) He was my first kiss we dated for several months and broke up. People were not as sensitive to this stuff as they are now. Also 19 is still a kid and they are actors. I don’t think this is fair.

[@livingfortheplot]

My male friends in high school also made jokes like that all the time. Most of them were virgins, they were just jokes.

[@dirtymike4894]

12:00 - I don't know if Danny Masterson is a rapists, but if I was on the jury and the only evidence was that 3 girls, including an ex-girlfriend, said he raped them 20 years ago, it wouldn't even be close to being enough for me to help put someone away for 30+ years. That is insane. If a friend of mine had some ex-girlfriend and two of her friends from 20 years ago come out and say he raped them 20 years ago, and it was totally out of character, not only would I write a letter, but I would also not believe them. What kind of friend are you if all you need to believe your friend is a rapist, and completely different person than you know, is for an ex-girlfriend from 20 years ago to come out and say they raped her decades ago with zero evidence? If some girl I knew 20 years ago said I raped her, and you wouldn't back me up, don't even bother being my friend. I don't want you.

[@paulan7218]

Actually, he’s a two-time convicted rapist, so yes, he is a rapist

[@sonatestd2085]

Agreed 100%. While this still doesn't mean 100% that the person isn't a rapist, it's obviously a friend's job to support another friend. I would also disown such a friend.

[@paulan7218]

sweetheart these women made reports to scientology 20 years ago, and that was shown as evidence in this case. So they did not in fact wait 20 years to accuse him they accused him 20 years ago and we’re harassed and silenced by scientology. If you would actually followed the case your head might not be so far up your ass.

[@beckyyacone]

But there is plenty of evidence....

[@jackravage3844]

​@@beckyyaconewhere? Is there video picture weapons any Physical evidence at all. Where is it. Only speculation conjecture An accusation. Accusation that comes from people who stand to gain a lot of money in a civil suit

[@emetdara2999]

I think this has gotten way out of hand. Like someone else has said on here, to write a character letter is standard practice and if their experience with the accused has been overwhelmingly positive, they should write exactly that. Their doing so doesn't exonerate him of his crimes but it shows that he isn't a complete monster. This will help the Judge come to a fair decision in his judgement. Like you said earlier, this is not a straightforward case at least with the information we have now.

[@claff4573]

It's not a straight forward case because it was 30 years ago. It is however in the courts a straight forward case

[@BendyLilZebraBabe]

​@@claff4573 You should say no to drugs! No really. Reread your comment and say I'm wrong...

[@fayeawad4351]

Totally agree

[@Courtneyemily91]

Well said!

[@risebeneathher]

A smart predator chooses their victims carefully, and navigates all others as upstanding, so as to discredit any victims that come forward. This is absolutely standard and victims of this kind of monstrous behavior have not only the impact of the event, but the impact of a whole community not believing them. That is far more a complete monster profile than someone who is inept and idiscriminate and lacks social skills to target opportunistically and thus stay in criminal practice.

[@reverendphillipwaselik7467]

There is no apology necessary. People need to learn about these character letters. This is ridiculous.

[@mp5249]

It is ridiculous. Ashton was tight in the circle of all these scientologists. He has blood on his hands

[@nicolevt1646]

A character letter can get someone’s possible sentence reduced. I wouldn’t want my attacker to get less time 🙅🏽‍♀️.

[@pamjames9077]

Amala and Taylor I love the new set! I’m glad that your partnership is still intact and am looking forward to seeing more content from you guys ❤

[@natsohigh5552]

Christina Ricci said it best. Something along the lines of: Just because you think you know someone and they've been good to you. That doesnt mean they've not done horrible things to others

[@BendyLilZebraBabe]

Everyone is forgetting that at nineTEEN... Ashton Kutcher was as much a teenager as Mila Kunis was. Maybe you are experienced but still not enough to be an adult! In this day and age when we can make policy changes to our entire Healthcare System to include benefits for children because children are children of until 25 right except for when it's convenient. And the people saying that you can see all of these red flags because two teenagers (young teenagers) at the time that did the dumb things teenagers do. 🤦🏾‍♀️ Also to the people who need to judge past events by their modern mindset; that is stupid!

[@paulan7218]

If you can’t see the difference between an almost 20 years old man, and they barely 14 year old girl, you must be a predator yourself. Any adult that is OK with a 14 year old being with a 17-year-old in my eyes is disgusting. There’s a huge emotional and physical difference between a 14 year old and a 17 year old.

[@housewife8832]

I agree... My mom was 14 and my dad 19 when they meet... Started dating when she was 15 and he was 20 and got married when she was 17/22. My mom had my brother at 21 and me at 24... They are still married. I seen Mila interview about how she got the role. She lied about her age and didn't tell them until they were ready to start rolling. I don't believe she was groomed in anyway and that they were just immature 19 year olds (like most are) who thought it would be funny to see how she reacted on camera to being surprised. I don't think them sharing their experiences and their relationship makes them bad people or that they condone rape. I don't know much about the case but I do know enough to know that not all cases are black and white and maybe he made some bad judgement calls but that doesn't mean that this couldn't be a wake up call. If he gets hit with the full sentence his life could be over before he gets out and my cousins were molested by my uncle and he didn't even get half that time. He served 6 years! There are murderers who don't get that much time. Something is off is all I am saying. Punishments should fit the crime...

[@annemariesouthworth9456]

I currently have a 19 yr old son and I can just imagine him saying / doing something thoughtlessly. 19 is not grown. Now of course I realize I need to be sure to have a more detailed conversation but stupid isn't necessarily criminal.

[@BendyLilZebraBabe]

@@annemariesouthworth9456 👏🏾 thank you!

[@BendyLilZebraBabe]

@@housewife8832 I'm glad your parents still together. I hate to hear anything like that happening to a child. So I hope the best for your cousins and that they're been able to heal as much as they can from it. I agree the punishment should fit the crime. I too have personal stories like yours and it infuriates me the times when I see that order to make an example out of someone or to push the agenda that people will go after those that seem the least able to defend themselves in a situation while being anywhere from apathetic to completely disregarding true or worse atrocities happening around them.. In this day and age when everyone wants to simultaneously treat kids like little adults that can make any decision that they want as well as treat them as a protected class that can be utilized for any agenda is going to help destroy our society.

[@BLE000]

It is regrettable that Ashton Kutcher's commendable efforts in combating child trafficking have been overshadowed by certain aspects of his past. It is essential to consider that during that time, he was so young and perhaps less discerning individual, which is a common characteristic among most individuals in their early twenties. Additionally, I contend that Mila Kunis's participation in that particular setting at a young age raises valid concerns and objections.

[@TheAmalaEkpunobi]

Yes I agree. Definitely something to keep mind when talking about this stuff

[@dianedoody6408]

These people who run these charities are always involved in the crimes 🤢🤢 Scientology make they do things!

[@lucystoner]

I kind of get that feeling, like maybe he outgrew his obnoxiousness. It's possible. But Idk if he did!

[@preach_the_whole_gospel]

The clips shown are definitely concerning. But overall, i believe Ashton, after having children of his own(if im not mistaken) and in light of what he's done for children victims--i mean not a lot of people would give up a career of fame to help children. In fact, a lot of people in the industry victimize children in many ways 20:15 well....idk now. The more i hear, the more i question my judgments of him. His wife is obviously a victim. 22:27 its so scripted. She could've done better in hiding that, but she didn't. God help them...

[@pbear7814]

And you know his work in the organization is innocent how? Like Oprah’s school for girls?

[@jordanharris7339]

Hi Amala, I just wanted to say as another American of mixed descent who comes from a formally progressive background but now identities more as a moderate, it's really great to see you making your voice heard. You speak with both wisdom and eloquence that I really admire. All the best

[@Starwoid]

Great first show! ❤ lots of tough topics taken on but did it with logic, respect, and poise. So glad that Taylor has stayed with you! You all bring some fresh, tasteful, and realistic ideas/commentary on current events. Glad you are holding the line!

[@slicedbread5692]

The point of a character letter is to speak to the personal experiences you've had with the person in question. If Kutcher and Kunis have only ever had overwhelmingly positive experiences with Masterson why would they not attest to that? Furthermore, if Masterson truly is a genuine friend to them they shouldn't abandon him. He needs guidance and help right now. He did awful things, but he should not be cast into the depths of hell. Friends aren't only friends when things are going well. Friends are needed most when things are bad.

[@intermezzono1]

i disagree with the second point but totally agree with the first one. people went as far as saying they should have researched the case and victims blah blah but thats such BS. you dont research a case about a friend to adjust your personal experiences for a letter to the court.

[@claff4573]

No no no. They were trying to get him off for years. You haven't looked into the history. They even personally know and have been friends with the accusers.

[@emetdara2999]

@@claff4573 Sorry, but you don't have proof of this. They were asked to write character letters and it is being blown out of proportion. I am in agreement with the OP on this.

[@One1Critic]

What a great comment, exactly my thoughts.

[@rozannaedwro934]

@@One1Critic👍👍👍

[@headstrong_warrior]

Convicted does not indefinably mean guilty. There are other interpretations and truths that others are unwilling to hear. I am saying this in general, knowing an innocent ''man'' convicted of Statutory GRape of his younger GIRLFRIEND (He 17 she 15). Her father catching them in the act and filing Statutory GRape put him away for 3 yrs with a sx offender listing. She was an aggressor toward him, and was a fully willy participant until DADDY FOUND OUT.

[@poochflexlore5916]

I think it is also important to note with the Brick Girl or those Good Samaritan situations, those can turn ugly and then the Good Samaritan can be arrested for helping protect the public. It’s not just a risk of bodily harm, it is a risk of jail time.

[@jjeKKell]

The kiss Kirsten Dunst gives Brad Pitt in Interview with the Vampire is rather incidental, though she has spoken about it, saying it was awkward given her age and their friendship onset. The moment she thought worst when making that film was actually having to bite the neck of some sweaty dude, because they were filming in the south, it was hot and, after all, her character is an adult vampire trapped in a child's body.

[@lindasteinbrenner8065]

I might have missed it, but how did a letter to the judge become public knowledge?

[@demingzhang7204]

Well, first instinct is: sticking out for your friend is what a friend should do.

[@snowpuppies1]

Here’s the thing: people can be more than one thing. Someone can be a giant asshole in one circumstance and a great person in another. And yes, it is possible to be abusive in intimate circumstances and still be able to do and say the “right things” outside of those relationships. Masterson obviously committed crimes and needs to pay for them, but that doesn’t mean that the things said by his character witnesses aren’t true from their perspective. What it means is that pretty much all people are complicated.

[@twilightresonance1789]

no, you are not correctly stating this. everyone is a good person just as everyone is a bad person. we all just chose who we want to be nice to and he we are mean to. and all people are capable of the same actions, we just have different paths to get to those points of behavior

[@rustinstardust2094]

What is it that makes you think Masterson "obviously" committed crimes? What is standing out as obvious to you? There was no actual proof.

[@heatherwittenberg7175]

What I got from his letter was he was thinking of the daughter that is now going to be fatherless.

[@st.hugo42]

Sadly missed most of the stream, but congrats on the new chapter. Like the chill approach to things.

[@jenniferdamiano7447]

Amala, congratulations on branching off!!! So happy to be here today!! Love your set. Thank you for inviting us into your home.

[@caseyrae0117]

I was friends with a guy who was found out during a bust to have very disturbing images on his laptop. (trying to walk around the word because it is KZbin and they are how they are with censorship). When I found out after he was arrested I was sick to my stomach and cried to my mother for days (I was not upset he was in trouble but upset with what was on his laptop). Nothing he ever did before as my friend mattered to me anymore. To me after knowing what he was found out to be doing he was not the person I knew before and he was never what he fronted to the world to be. He was just wearing a mask. I could never and would have never written anything in his favor for his case. I don’t even want people to remember I knew him before he was busted and I wish I hadn’t known him as well. Just my 2 cents from my own experience.

[@TheOldandslow]

I'm sorry you went through that. You can't un-know things, but maybe your experience can help someone else recognize truth when it's revealed.

[@caseyrae0117]

@@TheOldandslow Thank you so much for your kinds words. I’m definitely not one of the victims in my ex friends case but it still did hurt my heart very much. I actually had to bring it up while I was in therapy from the guilt I felt for not knowing. I hope these two see with time. Some people just take a little while.

[@brosef5033]

It is a bit different since he was found with the evidence on his laptop. Whereas Ashton doesn’t know if their friend is being falsely accused (it happens more then you’d think) so he writes a character letter believe his friend is a good person. I’m sure it was rough for Ashton to find out he did commit those heinous crimes and therefore he apologized. I think people are way off by criticizing him the way they are, without putting themselves in his shoes. If there had been evidence from the start, like in your friend’s case and Ashton still defended Danny… then I’d have a problem with him defending him. But he wrote the character letter before he had been charged.

[@jewel8425]

My moms ex (& my old coworker) - same thing. We were HORRIFIED, couldn't believe it. I had spent holidays with him, i knew his grown children. I still to this day feel nauseated when i think of him, & i know my mom, who had stayed very friendly with him, was devastated & immediately broke off all contact.

[@jhunsuc1239]

I love the new set and intro and that you two are both still here!!!

[@sjj17]

Mila seems very disingenuous in the video she posted with Ashton talking about the letters. That whole thing felt super fake

[@hollystiener16]

She seemed angry, annoyed, and inconvenienced

[@deepakmenon6720]

So does Ashton.

[@amberrecker12220]

Felt super forced

[@PunkinHead]

It sounded a lot like one of those old commercials. "Just 2 cents a day" type thing. Her delivery was certainly off.

[@vfcponce222]

Yes like it was acted out

[@cuchi2033]

You've turned into a gossip channel? Ashton is a real friend, he's testifying to what he knows about a good friend, he's not saying he did or didn't do a crime. Also not illegal to write a character letter for a friend.

[@karaprince2844]

Nobody thinks Ashton walked in on a crime scene. They think, as I have always thought, that the victim was his sacrifice.

[@ausi731]

so excited and proud for amala rn omggg

[@TheAmalaEkpunobi]

❤️

[@UserName-mn5rx]

The graphics look phenomenal! And Amala your set looks way more adult and authentic. From that alone I know you're going in the right direction. You look like you've aged in wisdom looking at you sit in that "set".

[@destinyelle7120]

Yesss

[@TopHatNat]

She needs a few more records though. I can't tell anymore if backgrounds are green screens or not these days. lol

[@davidbranagan9429]

Albums, funny I haven't owned or listened to one in twice her age. I bet she wouldn't even know how to use a turn table.

[@sendmail7426]

Her set looked better before this looks low cost and not so professional as before. She needs an actual set again

[@kwazokuhlemfeka]

very nice set❤🔥congrats on being independent!! keep up the good work and the 🔥 takes/opinions

[@edwardhood6252]

The biggest problem I see with women demanding that men " protect " them, even when absolute strangers, is that in fairly recent history, many people have been sued, AND LOST, for attempting to be a " good samaritan " and help a complete stranger. Also, Taylor's mic needs to be turned up. I can barely hear him.

[@AxisMundi120]

Excellent show! You weren't kidding when you said you weren't going to miss a beat. I appreciate the nuance you bring to these different topics, and I'm looking forward to the next one.

[@simil252]

So now Ashton should lie and say that he was a jerk since he knew him? I’m not sure what you were expecting by Ashton and Mila.

[@Noa......]

Or not make a character reference at all.

[@simil252]

Why? They’ve been asked for. Those guys grew up together. They shared their own personal experience with him. If he is a rapist the law should take care of him and not relying on friends from youths.

[@mikesmith542]

@@Noa...... But they know him. They were asked. Why shouldn't they make a character reference for a person that they trust? It's not immoral to defend someone accused of a crime.

[@Auny111]

I don't think they need to be cancelled but we need to stop putting celebrities on a pedastal and pretending they matter in our lives. They're human beings who make mistakes and bad choices and often do without consequence. Also, Mila has nothing to worry about career-wise. It will be Ashton who pays for this one.

[@Maydoggie]

So how does someone get convicted of a rape that didn't get reported for more than 14 years?

[@katarinabrunk8698]

I'm wondering that myself, if he hadn't done it for a long ass time, why would you even care anymore? (Not that the victims experience doesn't matter, but more the prosecution) That's like condemning a good person to hell for that one terrible thing they did thirty years before their death

[@stephpm7484]

I think it was reported immediately to the church of Scientology and then covered up. That’s where the paper trail comes from.

[@Maydoggie]

I’m not arguing or disagreeing because I’m not sure what constitutes admissible evidence in a rape case. But if I’m on a jury and it comes down to he said-she said with no physical evidence and no eyewitness, it would be hard to get me to vote for conviction.

[@SocialStudiesBob]

For the majority of time girls 14 to 18 dated males into their early 20s. Only in recent times when teens have been sexually open has dating 14 to 17 been taboo for 19 year old males. When I was 18 the age of consent in Georgia was girls 14 for 18 to 23 year old males. Many European countries it is still 16. Times have changed and I completely agree 18 year old males should only date girls 17+ (Romeo & Juliet laws) . However, saying that Mila was groomed is simply someone looking at the past with a current lens to something that was normal in society at the time.

[@claff4573]

That is not okay and never has been okay. Stop trying to rationalize it.

[@SocialStudiesBob]

@@claff4573 Sorry facts bother you. I’m a history teacher I know my shit.

[@michaelc9915]

@@claff4573 Am I missing something here? How was she groomed?

[@paulan7218]

The fact that you’re defending predatory behavior is really disturbing. just because it was normal for older guys to groom younger girls at that time doesn’t mean it was right. And yes, it was grooming 100% and if you don’t think so, you must be a predator yourself. You might want to look in the mirror.

[@michaelc9915]

@@paulan7218 are you talking about them being married now after they played a couple 20 years ago?

[@Yourfavoritetxwhelper]

Thank you for providing a definition of the PURPOSE of the letters. I wish people would just keep things in perspective when having selective outrage. Them speaking on THEIR experience with him is not in anyway indicative of whether or not he’s guilty in the court of law. Every one experiences EVERY person differently. Even men & women aren’t always the same person to every partner they have, which is why you can’t always listen to exes when dating someone new or befriending someone and someone tells you not to bc they had a bad experience with them. Doesn’t mean your personal experience will be the same. I personally wouldn’t write one of these letters for someone who was being charged, much less convicted of crimes of this nature- but, let’s keep the purpose of these letters specifically, in perspective. They are asking for leniency, not for the judge to vacate him of the charges or find him innocent. They spoke on his character based on THEIR perception, experiences and opinion of his character. People write these kinds of letters everyday for their CONVICTED loved ones for them to get paroled, knowing damn well that they likely deserved to be incarcerated, or are at high risk of death recidivism, but they write them anyway to beseech to judge (with the exception maybe of a small percentage of ‘wrongfully convicted’). Please let’s BFFR.

[@BendyLilZebraBabe]

Also if anyone would like to research how many people have been wrongfully not just charged but convicted of crimes they did not commit only to have served years if not decades before being exonerated!

[@jrmckim]

As for Ashton and Mila's letter, character letters are one thing but he specifically said in the letter he hoped the judge would consider his letter when sentencing Masterson. Thats taking it too far. As a victim of grape, it doesn't matter how "good" that person is with their friends, it's about who they are when their friends aren't around. The lady who was assaulted with a brick, hurts my heart. I was graped at a gas station after 2 men asked me for gas money. When i reached inside my suv, they held me down and 1 of them forced themselves on me. This was around 4p on a sunny day. I know people saw what happened. I fought like hell the entire time. I have MS but I had a black beat in aikido... the way they had me pinned on my stomach in the driver seat... there was nothing I could do and one tried to help me. It lasted only a short time but the experience left me paranoid and afraid. It also makes me think of the thousands of acid attack survivors in India. Most of them rejected the men that attacked them. Many times the attacker gets other men to help him. They will hold the victim while the other throws the acid. Not only does it disfigure the face but their hands too, as the woman uses hands to wipe the acid off. Most are left blind and disabled, making it almost impossible for them to get jobs. Weak hearted men are the most dangerous people in modern society.

[@alexwestconsulting]

Being convicted of rape. life in prison on testimony alone, from 2 people, with scant to no evidence, is incredibly dangerous to all of us.

[@claff4573]

Yeah when you don't do any research and just assume there was no evidence. How about looking into things before you comment on them

[@alexwestconsulting]

@@claff4573 Cite any evidence beyond testimony. Maybe start with the toxicology report please. Then move on to the findings of the rape kit. Then tell us what the witnesses had to say. Tell us about the DNA evidence. About the video footage. About anything. Please enlighten us with the evidence, as you are someone who's looked into this and I am not. This is a challenge to you and I am waiting for your response. Please don't let us or yourself down.

[@juliefraser5304]

​@snapsf what evidence? Ive TRIED to find some and can't find anything but the womens testimony

[@Syclone0044]

What do you suppose the jury based their verdict upon? It seems ignorant or naive to assume or imply they arrived at their verdict willy-nilly

[@alexwestconsulting]

@@Syclone0044 My question to you is how is it ignorant or naive to assume that they arrived at their verdict devoid of evidence when there was no evidence beyond testimony? I extend the challenge to you: cite any evidence given beyond testimony. The case is well documented, save for the identities of the 2 women. There was no rape kit, no DNA, no 3rd party eyewitness testimony, etc. What's naive or ignorant is to assume there was any evidence without actually knowing that there was. Shows an uncanny unfamiliarity with the specifics of the case, rather ignorance and naivety incarnate. In fact, the prosecution skirted the 10 year statute of limitations by explicitly asserting the aggravating circumstances that Danny used a weapon, drugs and kidnapped the victims but then presented no evidence that any of this happened, and, more telling, neglected to even charge him for it. Explain this. I encourage you to fact check this. Logically, if their entire right to prosecute laid on the foundation that Danny used drugs without their consent and a weapon that they would charge him so, but no, they didn't. Explain it. And explain how the weapon accusation was first mentioned in preliminary court proceedings long after it was NOT included in the initial police report. The accuser forgot to tell police that he threatened her life? And forward any evidence they had whatsoever. Then you can speak of ignorance and naivety. The verdict is dangerous enough, but common people assuming there was tangible evidence when there wasn't, compounds it.

[@johnathonkuhn7731]

Amala is stunning as always! I enjoy every time I listen to or watch your show. Keep it up!

[@ohhs7830]

Thanks you for bringing up this topic about crime and punishment. Separate "character letters" were written by both Mila and Ashton at the urging of the Masterson family. Mila and Ashton are a public figures, so they stand to lose their ability to work as a consequence writing these letters to the judge even though they apologized for their letters. Their support for Masterson could be interpreted as supporting a rapist. Since Masterson got thirty years, their letters turned out to have no consequence. We have to expect that our system of justice takes into account all inputs to reach a "just" conclusion. The public didn't sit through Masterson's trials so none of us really knows what he did and why he is being punished. The first trial was hung, the jurors couldn't agree on guilt or innocence. The second trial was partially hung on the alleged rape of a third person. The crimes took place twenty years ago. In the second trial the prosecution brought evidence that rape victims were drugged. Materson was tried(twice) and found guilty the second time. Let's not add two more victims to this affair. Milas and Ashton presumably spoke the truth about a friend and coworker. I don't think they have anything to apologize for.

[@BendyLilZebraBabe]

I agree with your overall statement except for very naive statement about our criminal justice system. I have some research for you: Patrick McAllister Livingston Broomes Jane Dorotik David Camm Brian Banks Frances Choy Nicole Harris Susan King Raymond McCann Robert Jones Ken Wyniemko Rosalynd Collier-Hammond ********* Frazier v. Cupp

[@HemholtzWatson]

The prosecutors didn't bring new evidence that they were drugged in the second trial. The judge reversed her original ruling that since they didn't see him put drugs in a drink or the like they couldn't say that he drugged them in the first trial. They could only state what they knew, which was how they felt, when the alleged rape occurred. They could say that they felt dizzy, high or the like. In the second trial the judge allowed them to state that he drugged them directly, despite no actual knowledge of that. This pretty much guaranteed a conviction.

[@MellanieMoney21]

I don’t go out often without my husband but when I do anytime a creepy man comes up to me I always manage to say “my husband works for the sheriffs office” it is nice because it is true

[@user-fu1gp9xp8e]

You and Taylor (all the crew) are amazing as always!! I love you all. Keep up the good work.

[@davidhill3946]

If Ashton and Mila don't believe that Masterson is guilty, then writing the letter is fine. As I believe, the only evidence was the testimony of the women. If I was Masterson's friend I might believe him. The only people that truly know are the women and Materson

[@BendyLilZebraBabe]

My issue (people being upset at the Kutcher's JUST writing a letter for a friend) with is all of this is form this perspective: I have actually been in a situation where I was seriously harmed as a child and no one believed me and it took years for the person to be arrested and my testimony was still cast out. So I know what it's like to be a victim and not be believed. I know what it's like to be a victim and not be believed by the justice system your own family and your own neighborhood. And to have all of them either bully or in some cases terrorize you for their lack of belief in your assault. I have also been in a couple of situations where male friends of mine were falsely accused of assault. And in at least one of the cases I was actually present when the assaults were supposed to have happened and know for fact that the male wasn't even in the vicinity at the time or where he was there is absolutely no possibility of him doing the things they say. The females lying know other people who could attest to his innocence were present also some of these times. But they still lied was able to get him investigated. He was never charged and the case had to be dropped because the police found no evidence. Even though they had to state in the records not only were the charges dropped no evidence found of his guilt but they also found inconsistencies in the stories of the females and evidence that actually pointed towards the females either lying and/or in some cases actually being guilty of some type of assault themselves. Still that did not stop them. They went on to try to perpetrate a social media campaign against them. And that has seriously damaged his reputation and business. No one bothered to read the police report that exonerated him and even stated that they could not even charge it with everything. No one read the police record that clearly states that he was never charged; a combination of the fact that they found no evidence to do so but also found evidence of the females lying. But because we no longer live in a land of innocent until proven guilty. Everyone is guilty depending on which special protected group the accuser comes from! So when asked do I see a situation where I would write a letter like that boyfriend. In a situation like that if my friend had been able to be railroaded! I definitely would have wrote as many letters as I had two until the truth came out! And I'm going to assume that Amala comes from a very sheltered Society if she don't know that innocent people get imprisoned for rape sexual assault and even murder in court all across the world. Nevermind our nation's own history with doing this to people! I'm not saying that this Masterson guy is innocent. I won't make that judgment having not being able to see the evidence that was presented against the dude. From everything that I read it says it's the only evidence that was used to conviction him was the woman's testimony. I'm hoping that is not the case. If that is the case and he's guilty then okay well done justice system. But if that is the case and he's innocent then... I am not making a decision until I see evidence one way or the other. Before anyone can jump onto me about my views if you have evidence links to evidence whatever I'm willing to read them. So send. If not I'm entitled to my opinion for the which I have my own past experiences that has led me to it.

[@ExileG29]

Well said!!!

[@BendyLilZebraBabe]

@@ExileG29 thank you

[@ashlinychole]

The new set looks so good !!! Omg you did not disappoint😍

[@dionthomas5418]

Congratulations on your New chapter Amala and Taylor, keep up with the good work with the topics and issues of the day, can't wait to see more of your success

[@telise8730]

The problem I think is that how did they come to the conclusion he was guilty and what evidence was involved. Im skeptical because its very difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt in these cases, and Kutcher and Kunis might of still believed he could of been innocent but also didnt want to imply the victims might be lying. Thats a very difficult position to be in, so for me personally I couldnt judge them for this especially because I just dont know enough about the case. I do know I have good men in my life who if they were accused of grape, unless there was real solid evidence to prove they were guilty, there would be no way in hell Id believe it for a second.

[@tillydee933]

Here is my issue with the case... Did he actual commit the crime? I don't know if he did. I didn't follow the case... But sadly, on the Me Too days, I have to question it, and if I didn't think my friend did it, I would write the letter.

[@hollystiener16]

They both know Danny did it

[@brothernorb8586]

He definitely did it (not opinion) and to many more. This same thing happened to me and while I don't consciously remember it, it did life long physical and psychological damage. The fact that no one that knew me could believe he would do that or that it would even be possible since I was asleep in my bed and he broke in, even though there was actual evidence, was devastating.

[@intermezzono1]

​@@sammybam77where can someone find the evidence?

[@grinchy1689]

@@sammybam77it’s a cult not a church

[@claff4573]

He did. Crazy how me too has you questioning, but the daily occurrences of things like this doesn't have you questioning. False accusations are rare by statistics. These women were also friends with him

[@mikejenkins992]

Always bums me out when I can’t catch the live cause I’m always working, but damn girrrrl! Such an AMAZING first solo episode! You and Tay always kill that shit when you are both chillin just spittin facts! Love you A! Listen hard to every episode! You are a literal American 🇺🇸 hero in this day and age! Love being happily unapologetic 😎🇺🇸😍 Again, Happy first solo show!

[@Karolinka15]

Unrelated but love the new set Amala! 💜 proud of you guys ♥️

[@garymcderp1146]

Since they’ve all been close friends for so many years I can’t blame Ashton and Mila for writing those letters. Either way it’s a tough choice. Do you just abandon your lifelong friend to preserve your own image, or do you try and help to at least reduce your friend’s sentence for a crime he allegedly committed many years ago at the risk of Twitter turning on you? As far as we know they didn’t know about the crimes their friend committed until he was recently accused. And now the guy’s kid is going to grow up without a father on top of everything. You don’t have to excuse his crimes in order to try and help. I think rape is one of the worst crimes you can commit, and if he really did those things he belongs in prison. But as a lifelong friend I don’t see why Kutcher should be bashed for writing that letter.

[@MrAkaacer]

You kinda do when they're such a sleaze bag. A guy like that ain't got your back. We all have friends that do dodgy things, but there are some lines that can't be crossed and I will turn my back on.

[@jamba622]

It's one thing to write the letters. It's not okay to lie to a judge, and the outrage I've heard is cause they lied. Danny's a raging alcoholic and AK and DM have been drugging together since the late 90s. But the letter implies DM is staunchly anti drugs and council them against drug use.

[@claff4573]

They knew about it for decades. Stop speaking on something you haven't researched. He also has called the accusers names and was previously friends with them. The only reason people attempt to defend this behavior is because women were effected, now if it was kids or a man who were effected you wouldn't be thinking what they did was okay.

[@Candice-op1cc]

I find it more repugnant to know that he knew he was doing something disgusting and thought he was untouchable and can continue this kind of behavior. These letters should have garnered him more time, not less. Because it shows he KNEW. They KNEW. No, we need to stop letting people rewrite history so they can believe in a better version of themselves. Repugnant, reprehensible, despicable behavior.

[@kitkatbar996]

@@richardtibbetts574 once again,that is heresay and not evidence. He shows no links to reports, videos, pictures, recordings, or any sort of public records to show the LAPD ACTUALLY CONFIRMED that Ashton Kutcher had lied about what happened that night. Until the LAPD come forward to confirm it's gossip and slander. He should be sued for slander like this since he sure likes to talk about it but still doesn't provide any actual evidence. After all, he could already provide it to us, the public, and Ashton and no one else could use him for it, seeing as it would be the truth and again, actual evidence. Yet why hasn't he by now? He's clearly guilty too for withholding evidence and not coming forward with it to bring those like ashton and others accused down now is he? So stop catering to lies and gossip and act like an actual adult.

[@andygriffin9935]

The woman who got hit with a brick: all I can say is what you put out, you get back. Whether those videos were staged of her slapping guys, she shows herself to be violent.

[@beautyallaround_]

Firstly, the videos were staged. I don't like videos like that nor do I find them funny. But let's not pretend she's the only one that makes these videos. Tiktok is a breeding ground for stupid shit like that. Now even if it wasn't staged do you really think a BRICK is equal to a slap? Did you see her face, the men in the videos weren't slapped that hard. If they slapped her back then and there or even if the same guys slapped her back on another day I wouldn't have minded (a slap for a slap). If she was going to get the same thing back a normal slap would've done it. So let's not try to justify excessive force. A brick is going overboard that's how people die. They literally could've killed her, do you really think that's fair?

[@andygriffin9935]

@@beautyallaround_ as I said I don't think she deserve to be hot with a brick and what you put out is what you get back. I personally wouldn't risk my life possible to help someone that does that and did you not see the other video where she said she doesn't need a man to protect her?

[@JenniferWike]

I love your new set! 💜

[@say6hows7]

Love the new set up guys. Keep up the good work.

[@donnagent6046]

I couldn’t abandon my friend in a situation where there’s no real evidence and it’s a he said/she said situation that wasn’t reported to the police for so many years.

[@kat7047]

Clearly you are either ignorant or a Scientologist.

[@lydiascl]

Child actors should be under the jurisdiction of their parents.. If a person lied about their age to get a part, who's to blame? Are we looking back and judging the past on present morals?

[@LiamColeman-Halla-yq2jl]

And relegated to the Friendzone until their 18th birthday. That includes teens.

[@MilanaVillo]

Love the new set! So excited for you!

[@moniquevapnik3005]

Congrats on the new show! Wishing you all the success! We love you!

[@casthedemon]

Mila Kunis supporting Times Up and writing a letter about her experiences are not mutually exclusive things. She can do both.

[@dbro5430]

We just don't know. Many many men get wrongly accused of rape. I know of quite a few. If I'm not present I don't know. I hope these women not lying and if they are I hope they suffer and rot in hell.

[@renderser]

Loving the new setup Congrats again on your solo journey! Looks like you did it the right way

[@ocamp8322]

Love this new show !! 😍 congrats Amala 👏

[@Wilphart]

Just like an attorney advocates for their client, why wouldn't a friend advocate for their friend? The judge and/or jury is the one that makes the decision. Assuming Masterson was a better person before he was convicted of these crimes, why shouldn't that come into play? Victims and enemies are certainly going to advocate against him, so why shouldn't there be a balance? Jesus was actually convicted illegally. He should have been released if there was a unanimous decision against him, because it meant that he didn't have a single friend on the jury and by old Jewish law, a situation where a person didn't have a single friend on the panel was considered inherently unjust. Of course a friend should advocate for their friend. It doesn't mean they are condoning a crime.

[@natsohigh5552]

If the crime was committed and you're adding your two cents to try and get your friend a lower sentence, you're inadvertently advocating the crime they committed.

[@claff4573]

Your only saying this because you too have not the best people in your friend group so you rationalize it and could understand why others would do the same thing. These people knew for decades and they were also friends with the accusers before. Do research about a topic before you speak.

[@claff4573]

None of that is advocating for a friend and they were previously friends with the accusers decades ago. Why are you talking about jesus and comparing this to the bible stories

[@Prismalpink]

I think the thing I find the most disrespectful about these two is the fact they turned the spotlight onto themselves with their “apology.” Stay out.

[@AdriannaBarbosa]

Amala I enjoy your show! Also wanted to mention that top looks great!

[@CanceledThoughts]

Love the new look, feels more intimate and connected, keep doing what you do!!

[@TheAmalaEkpunobi]

Glad you like it!

[@LezgoBrandon]

Amala, congrats on your new show! You and Taylor are a great duo and compliment each other. While I personally met Ashton and was professional and nice, I still think hollyweird is dark and these actions were influenced by such people in charge like studio execs.

[@kristaleeraffaelli5858]

First of all with the rape conviction, I 100% agree with you Amala, I would feel like I was morning the loss of a friend, I would feel lied to and betrayed to have been loving and appreciating a facade of a human I thought I knew intimately. Now I wanna comment on the woman in the response video that spoke of protection and her father and brothers and her future sons, I LOVE what she had to say.. and those who don't resonate with it just might be a dirty clump of sandstone 🤷🏻‍♀️, beautiful articulated and,as you've said Amala, eloquently spoke!

[@daniellegarcia9]

Love your setup!

[@marcinwojcik3497]

The" brick" woman is a said to be a scammer on the internet - supposedly. There's a video on the YT saying that what she has on her face is an allergic reaction to something, not a damage due to being hit.

[@ciararyan9370]

It’s hard to say what I’d do, personally. If I was sure a friend had done something this awful I would feel kind of betrayed.

[@kevingreen3195]

Congrats Amala and Taylor on embarking on your own path. A little technical critique: Taylor, your mic volume wasn’t as loud and clear as Amala’s.

[@dansonoflightning2277]

15:30 Note that Kunis lied about being 18 to go on the show

[@billrhoades6879]

The set and show are great! I appreciate the content!

[@sliv70]

I don’t know. I kind of get it. If you’ve been friends with someone for decades? I imagine you’d want to defend your friend. I’m sure it’s hard to come to terms with what they did. I don’t think it’s that bad to write a letter understanding he WILL go to prison. I’m not mad at them.