Conservative Gays vs. Liberal Gays REACTION ft. Amir Odom

Today we have a special guest, ‪@amirxodom‬, who recently participated in Jubilee’s Conservative vs. Liberal Gays Middle Ground video. He joins me today to give a behind the scenes look at his experience filming the video and react to it with me. Let’s get into it!
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[@runiastonerose6041]

it's so insane, that you in the U.S. are not allowed to drink Alkohol under the age of 21, but let children do irreversible body modifications. 🤯

[@mushios]

As an American I've already made up my mind that 18 for drinking is so much better. Smoking at 18 used to be a thing but was bumped up to 21 a few years ago. Also insane. Same with school in full honestly. We force our population to be in school until they are 18 I think that's too long. Maybe 16 at the most which would be around 10th grade. The last two grades are always just filler classes that no one cares about anyway. The 16 year olds are so over being in school at this point. So many things that Don't make sense. My brother is in the navy at 18 but couldn't drink, smoke or get a tattoo???? Are you crazy? He could become government property but couldn't do any of that???

[@th3yloveana]

@@mushiosI do agree with that part, if men have to sign a paper that says their signing themselves up in the case of a war they should at least be allowed to have a few shots.

[@Nazdreg1]

In Germany, you can drink soft alcohol like beer at 16 and the rest at 18. And of course, you can drink in public without hiding it suspiciously under a bag... :D

[@yourkiwimate]

putin is the only real christian leader in the world now - he doesnt allow this madness - bless him

[@carolinevann8520]

Facts!!! It's insane

[@PuffinPsychologist]

It’s so crazy that this was supposed to be a debate between Gay men and only gay men…. Yet somehow, the transgender community and ideology STILL dominated a conversation/debate that was not even about them…

[@deshon3523]

It never fails.

[@spikemurphy5054]

Well it was in one of the prompts, what do you expect lol

[@thetrib1]

People want to be normal for the most part

[@JuanRamirez-zk9lt]

Well if everyone were minding their own business instead of bitching over 1% of population?

[@fazelok]

t==True that. But really its the only thing that separates us from each other - the trans crap, and the 'drag/overt sexuality in public/schools' crap.

[@johnpaul4597]

My aunts were old school Hippie lesbians. They told me over and over again how they didn't agree with the gay community nowadays, And they hated pride parades. They live their life, they didn't make a big show of it, but they also didn't hide it. Relationships are meant for the home not to show off to everybody else.

[@heatherdoodles5504]

I’m a heterosexual female who feels sexual scenarios need to be behind doors for everybody. I get uncomfortable watching sex scenes in movies and television. It has nothing to do with who it’s involving but where it’s happening. I just feel like sexuality shouldn’t be such a commonality in public. Be gay, hug and have a kiss in public, but nobody, straight or gay, needs to be grinding on each other in public.

[@tialouise7164]

I absolutely have this same thought. I would never imagine acting in certain ways in public at all with my husband and if we did we would be shamed/ stared at! But apparently it’s ok for gay people. I know a few lesbian couples that grind on eachother and are soooo inappropriate but people love it and cheer it on! It makes me so uncomfortable. If I say anything im a homophobe. We can never win.

[@csickpuppy]

The LGBT community has been hijacked by perverted exhibitionist who only want to get their freak on in front of little children.

[@kprenesti]

The irony is that the people who do just live their lives do so much more for acceptance than the outspoken ones. I'm a bit obsessed with cruising. I love watching cruise vlogs, and some of my favorite vloggers are gay (Talking about Cruising with Ben and David, and JJ Cruise). Ben and David have "the gay personality" but they're never over-the-top inappropriate (like once or twice they'll have a gay innuendo, but it's usually hilarious). JJ Cruise are also very obviously gay too, but not in an over-the-top way. I guess what I mean is, I see no difference in the interactions between a het couple like ParoDeeJay or EECC vs JJ or Ben&David. Like, it's the same level of interaction. Them being gay has never been an issue or even more than a passing thought. They're just adorable together, ya know? Like in the same way that Dee and Jay of parodeejay are.

[@savorysnot8604]

​@heatherdoodles5504 i also feel like a lot of sexuality everywhere of desensitize us! You literally see it everywhere: in ads, films and series (which is bad even in series about minors), social media and so on...

[@dragonhex3832]

The hyper sexualization is one of the big reasons why I never accepted the label of "lgbt" as a gay man. It comes with so much that I don't want any part of. Another reason is everything about me gets assumed once someone knows. My politics, my morals, my proclivities. I hate it. I'm just me. I'm not the lgbt.

[@avivastudios2311]

This was nice to read. I like the rhyme at the end. 😁

[@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158]

I am straight white man (just for context) and the idea that your sexuality defines you is an utter misnomer on so many levels, eg: some of the great poets hid their homosexuality, Wilfred Owen, Emily Bronte, Fernando Pessoa and others, it was their writings that defined them, not their sexuality, but we now live in a world where they shoe horn in any label to define these people (esp in media amd the arts) it is utterly redundant but yet its pushed like its revelatory, it isn't I think you are right to bring this up.

[@maryray3419]

Damn, well said! 🔥🔥🔥

[@liameiliana7899]

I'm curious, since when they think there has to be a community, i mean, LGB and TQ++ is essentially not the same, why do they have to be in the same community?

[@vervideosgiros1156]

@@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158 Fernando Pessoas wasn't homosexual: he was in love but he wasn't loved back and some specialists defend he was asexual.

[@kprenesti]

Man, when I was growing up it was "I am not a label! Don't label me!" Now it's "You will respect my label!" When I was growing up , it was "Of course boys can play with dolls and girls can play with toy trucks!" Now it's, "Oh you're a boy who likes to play with dolls, must mean you're a girl" I'm only 40. I don't understand how we flipped so absolutely in such a relatively short time...

[@deltatea3192]

I'm 38. Same experience. From my conversations and exploration of the topic I have come to the conclusion that it started at the universities. I don't know why it started with them but disruptive social ideologies always seem to start there. Whether one is talking Communist or Libertarian or anything in between.

[@tashavolovsek9115]

It's promoted by the government and those funneling monet into the propaganda, schools /colleges , government press and society

[@tashavolovsek9115]

​@@deltatea3192been going on its also were they started eugenics and yet now force Egyptians and Syrians under the "white " label (which strips them of their identities) So now this format appears on government documents including the last U S census that went around and current job applications including the ones used to train high school students. So the brainwashing goes through out society the press and right on up to the U S congress

[@nerysghemor5781]

Same age and EXACTLY! We've just reverted right back to stereotypes and it's unbelievably stupid!!

[@elizabethfindlay5752]

Parents have lost their (healthy) power over their children and children are peer orientated instead of parent orientated. Children can only have 1 leader and now that it's in the hands of peers who follow one another, mainstream/Hollywood/social media and universities can pull their strings and the rest follow. Parents mostly just give their children whatever shuts their child up instead of the hard work of building a proper relationship. Children are DYING for REAL connection. They'll do anything to feel accepted by peers even tho "Mom and dad love you unconditionally".... so long as the child makes them happy and are grateful the parents gave the child life and everything they needed *physically* for a "good" life. Yet emotionally abandoned.

[@trevorodell5564]

If a 13-year-old wants to get married, people are shocked because they're clearly not mature enough; if they want a top surgery, they're affirmed all the way to the operating room. It's insane.

[@annfraley-mylife]

I have wanted to point this out to those who support affirmation for kids, so many times.

[@faerose4748]

"There are men who identify as straight who dabble in sleeping with men occassionally" tHIS MAN REALLY SAID NO HOMO THO

[@boringmonkey6958]

But that WOULD be "no homo" though? That would be a Bisexual lol.

[@baz3575]

Also, is insane comment that people only care about hyper-sexualisation with gays only. Like were are not going to pretend straight women are not demonised and dragged for being sexual, lol. Dude lives in a selective outrage bubble and ironically exposes how little gay men know about women despite many of them thinking they know us better than we know ourselves.

[@bbb12124]

Because if he's not attracted to men, "no homo" is correct, whether he dabbled 3 or 300 times. Check your premises at the door. Your feelings don't dictate facts, tiktok bisexuals.

[@faerose4748]

It was a joke, lol. Don't take it too seriously.

[@iulia.bianca.b]

​@@trekadouble757 Point being made is: NO WAY IN HELL a guy who occasionally sleeps with guys (no matter if out of love or just the physical attraction) could never in a million years be purely straight, no matter how hard they try to identify themselves as straight.

[@mininjas]

The double mastectomy talk was so uncomfortable. When I was going through puberty, I wanted to have a flat chest so I could play soccer shirtless. I told my mom all the time "I wish I was a boy". She encouraged me to love myself as I was (which I still wasn't able to do until well into adulthood). I can't imagine how my life would have been if a double mastectomy was the recommended course of action for me. I would have missed everything that matters to me as an adult. I want to have children. I want to breastfeed if I'm physically able to. I know that's just my feeling about it, but you don't even know yourself until you're older.

[@McP1mpin]

A lot of people focus on the breastfeeding part but there's not enough emphasis on the fact that if you block puberty and put a girl who hasn't been through puberty on testosterone, she's almost guaranteed to be sterile with no ability to reverse it. For all this talk about "men having babies", the reason why you rarely ever hear about it actually happening is because despite having the right parts, they physically can't. The ones who can transitioned later in life after puberty and they have to stop taking testosterone in order to get pregnant, essentially detransitioning in order to accomplish that, which kind of negates the whole concept of men having babies to begin with.

[@amandavieira2543]

There are alot of people that know themselves early, its funny how confused people thinks everybody is like them.

[@mininjas]

@@amandavieira2543 oh I was pretty sure of myself. Hindsight is 2020. But thanks for your judgement

[@americanandpinay]

@@amandavieira2543 That's a bullshit and absurd. Our thoughts, opinions, attitudes, wants and needs continuously change throughout our lives. Children lack understanding and comprehension. Must adults don't even have proper comprehension, and do no understand the world beyond their self-centric logic.

[@AnelTorres-qc1vc]

@@amandavieira2543it’s a scientific fact that the human brain is not fully developed until you are 25 years old, teenagers don’t have their frontal lobe fully developed, which is the part that makes decisions, so why would we allow children to make life altering decisions?they are physically incapable of making good decisions, It’s insane.

[@freya2820]

I love the way they put a male in the lesbian one but not a female in sight who identifies as a gay man on this panel, its truly hilarious this society.

[@sur_eal]

Right

[@idkdc2615]

I believe one of them is a gay trans man. The one in the red suit with glasses

[@idkdc2615]

@@Hfhjspwp 1) I saw the video and at some point it was talked about 2) His name

[@userrrrrra]

And how come I see shemale p*rn all the time but hardly see people talking about boy cl*ts

[@fadhilfadhil1088]

oh shi

[@gingerbreadfaerie]

Amala should've identified as a gay man and went on that show, she would've destroyed them with facts

[@samus891]

XD

[@GoingBack2Basics]

They would have just yelled over her and never let her finish a sentence. Facts don't fit their narrative

[@chez_calabrese]

She’s clearly a lesbian but not out of the closet yet

[@kthulhukif]

​@cheznapoli8321 you're clearly a traffic cone.

[@helenejapa]

She said that she came out of the closet as bi when she was a leftist. I wonder if she still identifies that way.

[@priscillapie]

I feel so bad for Mario. The guy next to him said Mario should be ashamed of himself 4 different times.

[@wonderfulfable]

And the weird thing is, if not for Mario and his peers decades back, Barrett & Ryan wouldn't be able to enjoy their rights as of now. Mario and his peers were the OG gay men who fought to build bridges during the 1980's, 1990's and 2000's. And good on him for helping to pass the laws in Nebraska that does not allow children below the age of 18 to receive gender affirming care.

[@Chelsea123Chii]

And Mario smiled politely the whole time even while being interrupted.

[@hinalshah4092]

He did say sorry and they did come to a loving place. Mario really held his composure well and the other guy did take accountability. When one is so incensed or passionate about something, they can say things they don't mean to be malicious but as long as the realisation occurs and bridges are re built, it's all good

[@eduzz4655]

​@@wonderfulfableI agree but to me 16 would be an appropiate age (only for begin hormones treatment). With 18 change your name, go to surgery and everything you want. I'm European so maybe for us is different. I'm conservative though.

[@Kelsea-im8ob]

@eduzz4655 The issue isn't only that people can't decide which age is appropriate, but whether it's appropriate at all. Most of this intervention is unnecessary anyway, barely any of these kids even have any meaningful dysphoria, they just have some discomfort and want to look cool to their peers. Saying you shouldn't let minors get gender affirming care just gives them that much more time to come to their senses. It's not like adults transitioning is this happy, joyful thing either.

[@ProjektReaper]

Growing up I was constantly made fun of for my large ears. Called dumbo. My doctors discussed with me and my parents an elective surgery to remove cartilage from behind my ears so they wouldn't stick out as much. I hated being made fun of, I wanted the surgery. My parents said if you want this still as an adult, we will help you pay for it - but it's likely this is just an awkward phase that you will grow into. As an adult, nobody has ever said my ears were too large. I don't any longer feel my ears are too large.

[@OhWanya]

Yeah lots of time weird body ratio as kid tends to evens out later out in life! I felt the same for my nose and my teeth! As of today I thought that my face is quite harmonious! I cringe thinking of the what if as a younger teens 😅

[@stephj9378]

Children do grow into overly large body parts.

[@amandavieira2543]

An ear can be done in adulthood without bad consequences. Transition only in adulthood will keep you with unwanted permanent features = a full life of suffering.

[@ProjektReaper]

@@amandavieira2543 factually inaccurate. Jazz Jennings is a prime example that the consequences of doing this as a child are arguably more drastic than doing it as an adult. But hey, if you think not liking something about your physical appearance is a 'lifetime of suffering', I suppose the majority of the human race feels this every day.

[@amandavieira2543]

@@ProjektReaper no she is not, you don't follow her or se what she has to say about it, you created in your head whatever you wanted to fit your anti-trans ideology.

[@jakeedgell591]

"Completely straight men can have sex with men once or regularly" Naaaaaaaaaaah bro that's called being in denial 😂

[@jimc.9465]

There's this line from "The Boys in the Band": "Once, that's youth. Twice, a phase maybe. Several times, _you like it!"_

[@boringmonkey6958]

A straight guy can definitely have sex with a guy once and never do it again... They would be a straight man who experimented. The same way a gay man can have sex with a woman once to experiment and confirm it's not for them. But that Ryan guy saying a gay man can "regularly" have sex with women? That's a bisexual, Ryan. It wasn't until watching this video that I understood what people mean when they talk about "Bi-erasure"...

[@jakeedgell591]

@@boringmonkey6958 right, the once thing I can kind of see, although personally I'm very much not attracted to men, so I have no inclination to sleep with one. But yeah when he said "regularly" I was like "no. By definition, that's just not true."

[@bbb12124]

​​​​@@boringmonkey6958There ain't no damn bi erasure by gay men and lesbians, bro. If it exists, it's coming from straight people. Sure there's the cliche of bi now gay later, but those instances were usually proven to be true. It's not erasure. It's simply observing precedence. Gay men and women are more guilty of bi INFLATION...this non-stop attempt to make bisexuality more prevalent for ulterior motives. What makes one gay or straight is consistency with the ACTUAL definition, which is ATTRACTION, NOT behavior. I'm sick of gay people bitching about the religious right reducing sexuality to acts but then proceed to do the same thing. Yes, a straight man can take a dick as many times as he wants and still be straight as long as he's only attracted to women. There is no quota. Likewise a gay man can have sex with women every day and still be gay. Much of people's confusion about sexuality boils down to the assumption that attraction is the only motive for sex when in fact pleasure is the most primary motivation. It also has a bit to do with the fact that some people have deluded themselves into believe that the psychological boundaries of sexual orientation is mirrored in the physical body. It is not. I dare a supposedly gold star gay to put his erect (regardless about what caused it to be erect) in a vagina and NOT orgasm to prove that that they're really gay, which puts them under the same expectation that they put on others who are comfortable with their sexuality, in an attempt to nurse their own weird complexes about the opposite sex (ditto for straights in regards to the same sex) Put on a blindfold and let me see that "straight dick" stay limp while receiving service from "male lips". Like it or not, there are physical pleasures one can get from men that they can't get from women and vice versa, which have nothing to do with orientation. There are also pleasures to be gotten from this body part but not that one. Acknowledging this or having behavior that reflects this is not indicative of bisexuality. Surprisingly it IS validation of trans though. Like the others, bisexuality has a meaning. Words matter. So if the person isn't attracted to both, then y'all need to stop claiming these people are bisexual just because it suits your comfort zones. The straights love to conflate bisexual with homosexual to fit their comfort zones. And the homos overestimate bisexual for two reason, to validate their ick factor or choices ("I'm gay and wouldn't screw the opposite sex, YUCK so why would you"... phantom bisexuality then becomes an anchor for such weird complexes) and to hold on to the false hope that that straight person is more available than they really are.

[@bbb12124]

Btw, it's a bit rich that so many try to make the psychological boundaries that exist for sexual orientation into a physiological fact (In order to make space for a non-existent bisexuality) when the same people are gung ho to separate the TQ on the basis that the latter is more about physical types than physiological types.

[@vrynnie]

to express my HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT in barrett as a person would be an understatement. i thought he was someone who would fight for children's safety and innocence but i see that i was proven wrong. wow what a let down.

[@el7284]

I was kind of supportive of him, then one day I saw the ideological grips. After a few more videos like those, I noped outta there

[@dawnofchristmas]

Man I just love hearing Amir talk, he radiates so much kindness. of course love you and Taylor

[@baz3575]

He's great on these videos but like most, his social media gets cringe. He said some dumb sh*t today from a gay chat about roman times and I am just like dude, keep that ant-straight shit in the gay lane.

[@dawnofchristmas]

@@baz3575 anti straight? sorry I’m just not sure what the statement is you’re referring to

[@Yopjo]

​@@baz3575what did he say?

[@baz3575]

I watched the original video when it was uploaded and was stunned by how obtuse and historically illiterate in LGBT history Barrett was. Ryan was self-righteous and spread some wrong data himself but to his credit at least he knew Marsha P. Johnson was a gay transvestite who did not start the Stonewall riots. For me Amir, Mario and Clarkson held their own well. But Barrett? Barrett is your typical scenester grifter while Amir, Mario and Clarkson are just regular gay dudes out here in the world with a variety of friends from all walks of life like so many of us who are now falsely labelled "Conservative" for not toeing the line of the echo chamber.

[@davidreddington4381]

Amir was incredible on the Jubilee's panel! Kudos to Mario and Clarkson.

[@tosheatower]

I don't see the point of these Jubilee video's at all, like with all these channels they always invite people who are just legit crazy, uneducated and just repeat stupid talking points. I guess they think people would be too bored if rational, level-headed people who can distinguish between fact and fiction debated topics.

[@lucianas661]

@@tosheatoweri don’t see the point either, they made a vid recently about ex muslims vs muslims despite the fact that apostasy is considered punishable by death in islam. it seems like they’re mainly in pursuit of what will garner views over actually finding middle ground. there is no middle ground in topics like this

[@MM-vy3fm]

@@lucianas661 Ex Muslim vs Muslim Jubilee held in Iran. Question: Will the apost-err-Ex-Muslims step forward? End of show.

[@happycamper4263]

Mario and Amir were the ONLY ones that weren’t EXHAUSTING. ❤

[@laraking804]

And Clarkson the short haired blonde dude

[@bbb12124]

Amir was VERY exhausting as were almost all the so-called conservative guys on the trans issues. The only sensible one was the guy in the purple jacket. Many "LGB" are so warped by transphobia and their own bizarre complexes about sexuality that they're projecting bisexuality onto non-bisexuals, not only equivocating (eg. alternating between informal, colloqiai definitions of male/female to strictly medical meanings) but also completely disregarding established meaning of words in favor of their feelings, such as defining sexual orientation by behavior rather than attraction. How UNbecoming of someone claiming to be conservative. I thought conservatives were supposed to be rational. They're so busy pushing this silly narrative of "biphobia" that they're incapable of looking in the mirror to see that they're calling the kettle black. TQ is the least of this "community's" problem. The bigger issue is the epidemic of low critical thinking skills. Don't tell me about irreversible body modification of trans youth when you have nothing to say about circumcision. This fake backlash against trans is some orchestrated social engineering bullshit. I completely believe the trans people who say socalled bisexuals are the biggest instigators of transphobia. The fabricated biphobia narrative was a precursor to this phenomenon. The reality is that society has a bigger problem with mono - monogamy and monosexuality. Imo, if trans is a problem, then so is bi.

[@JLS1994]

There were a few on each side not exhausting

[@casthedemon]

Wahoo!!

[@vervideosgiros1156]

Besides Barrett, no one was pushy.

[@bradentripp8141]

Im a monogamous gay man in a monogamous relationship for almost 30 years.. We had to stop going out because it almost became a challenge for certain people to try to interfere with that..just to see if they could. The "others" just treated us like prudes because of it... Lol

[@angelachouinard4581]

I had a friend in the military when we were stationed in Monterey back in the 70's. One weekend he skipped our usual weekend activity to go to San Francisco to see an uncle no one in the family had spoken to since 1946. He met a man while stationed in Europe at the end of the war, bought a ton of antiques and he and his partner came back to San Francisco and lived together all those years running a business together, 30 years. Love is love. My friend said they were both great guys and he was so glad he ignored the family ban. Congratulation because most kinds of relationships don't last any more.

[@LoveFreak18]

Should we stop calling them pride parades and start calling them kink displays? Sex showcase?

[@tkarina829]

Right..so many of ppl go to pride parade actually straight ppl that wearing BDSM gear/furry costume then call themselves as part of LGBT💀

[@johnmc2560]

Not a bad idea

[@longnguyeexn]

Good idea. Cuz at this point these freaks are ruining Pride and putting dirt on (decent) gay people.

[@clairesaffin2003]

We should just start calling it the “Annual Sex and Fetish Parade” lollololol

[@jzz6342]

I am bi and I hate the pride parades, are so weird and noisy

[@thatcitrusfriend6234]

Omg I watched this the other day. Them not letting the man with the blue braid talk (when they were "discussing" how he helped pass a law banning gender affirming care) was ridiculous!

[@jrmcconchie]

For me, I still can't wrap my head around the fact that there's no logical consistency. A few shootings and they want to ban all guns. But having a few detransitioning doesn't have them trying to ban medically transitioning for kids. Like... one lost life is too many, but wheres that same energy?

[@bitmma5432]

A few??? Are you kidding me. There have been over 300 mass shootings so far in the US this year alone . (Yes, I just looked it up). And I don't think that anyone is trying to ban all guns. I'm pretty sure they're just trying to ban assault rifles at this point. And honestly why does the average person need an assault rifle anyways. What's wrong with a handgun or shotgun? I'm sorry but this is not an apples to apples comparison my friend.

[@oriongear2499]

@@bitmma5432 I mean, some gun owners do like to own an AR or two alongside their pistol(s) and Shotgun(s). Sooooo...

[@bitmma5432]

@@oriongear2499 right. But I'm saying when people are trying to ban guns they are usually only trying to ban assault rifles. The original poster made the comment that when there are mass shootings people will Advocate to get rid of all guns. That's not really true. People want to ban assault rifles not all guns.

[@nickweischedel3601]

​@@bitmma5432Please tell me what an assault rifle is

[@tarantulasarecool]

I live in Australia & I am on board with your opinion except for the whole ‘a few shootings’ remark. Fortunately it just dosent occur here the way it does in the US so it’s quite hard to fathom people openly allowed to buy guns here. There is of course a lot of knife & other violence but minuscule compared to other countries cuz we got only 27 million here. ❤

[@ssgdawnhoffman]

PDA should be the same for EVERYONE. When my son was a teen I had to explain to him that he can’t do that stuff at Grandma & Grandpa’s. He got angry until I asked him if he ever saw me kiss his dad there. I told him that it had nothing to do with being gay. He eventually understood.

[@antjea.3105]

In your culture, it's forbidden to kiss your husband in front of your parents? That's so interesting, it never crossed my mind, even though it's probably true for a lot of countries.

[@sophemia420]

We NEED more content with Amir. His insight is so interesting and valuable

[@stephj9378]

I've seen him before. Crystal clear reasoning.

[@brittanydj16]

When he jumped in “Intersex..” I laughed so loud 😂😂😂😂😂 Amir is awesome.

[@redliz11180508]

As a lesbian I have been with my wife for 19 years we have not officially gotten married but we have never been to a pride event because of what goes on at a pride event

[@BasuraVidz]

Don't you need to get "officially married" before you call her a wife?

[@OutbackLife656]

No you don't have to be officially married to call someone your wife! Haven't you ever heard of a de facto relationship. If not here is the definition: A de facto relationship recognised by law is one where two people are in a relationship and are not married , but live together as a couple on a genuine domestic basis. This now also includes adults of any sex or gender identity.@@BasuraVidz 😇

[@GuardTower]

​@@BasuraVidz iirc being someone's "wife" needs legal contracts. for 19 years they are partners... but if they want to call each other "wife" then no one is going to stop them. they might still need the legal documents to make it official

[@Undomaranel]

​@@GuardTower I might not be able to stop them, but I will point out that they are appropriating the term wife and watering down actual wives for it. It's disrespectful, on par with stolen valor. If you don't put your life on the line and make those legal, social and spiritual commitments, you do NOT get the title. They are partners. Only after marriage will they be wives.

[@OakieDokey31]

​@@Undomaranelit's only disrespectful if you are one of the group of people who are offended by literally anything. Also it's no where near stolen valor. someone calling someone their wife when they aren't married is close to someone falsely claiming that they risked their lives and devoted their life to defend their country is similar to you?. You're comparing two things that could not be more dissimilar and then getting offended by it. Also as soon as the word "appropriation" pops up you lose the interest of any sane, normal person you are speaking to.

[@rantsofafangirl7000]

Id like to hear from Mario again in the future. He seemed really calm

[@laraking804]

The way he kept his cool when people got all triggered about him was astounding.

[@illjusthavecoffee]

He has a KZbin channel, super chilled guy

[@adanganaafan2811]

@@illjusthavecoffeeooooo rly what’s it called?

[@wildhorses1339]

@@laraking804 I have a feeling he has dealt with these situations thousands of times in his lifetime

[@johntheknight3062]

People that ask you: "Give me definition of inappropriate or indecent" are always the literal defition of these words themselves.

[@daisyblowers7693]

The brainwashing is 🤯 cannot believe that he compared a nose job to a mastectomy…

[@tkarina829]

Both is cosmetic surgery & minor shouldn't hv any access for it but the problems is since double mastectomy by those Gender cults consider as "gender affirming care" insurance cover for the surgery

[@LiamColeman-Halla-yq2jl]

Are you single?

[@lonniesharp9109]

If I eat a cheeseburger once in a while, I can't call myself a vegetarian.

[@mason4966]

You can call yourself mostly vegetarian.

[@lonniesharp9109]

@@mason4966 I'm going to use that the next time I get pulled over for speeding. "Officer, cut me some slack, I'm mostly law-abiding.". 😎

[@mason4966]

@@lonniesharp9109 Yeah that could be true but that don't mean you won't get a ticket.

[@lonniesharp9109]

@@mason4966 Thus negating the premise itself. 🤷‍♂

[@lauradinger1616]

50:00 I have an intersex friend, He was brought up as a female, however more recently He felt as though that was wrong and was able to start taking T when he turned 16 (his body doesn't produce enough sex hormones). He doesn't like being called transgender and hates all that pride stuff as it always ends up being pushed in peoples faces.

[@bradentripp8141]

Im a male with a condition that has required me to take Testosterone injections most of my life. Has an endocrinologist weighed in on this in your friends situation? The part people rarely talk about is how a body is designed to function on 1 type of hormone..randomly adding it to the opposite body can cause major issues in long term usage. Its like putting diesel gas in a regular car.... Its scary how they intentionally avoid discussing the harms this can do..I have a friend currently dealing with cancer caused by cross hormones..and 2 that have died from it.

[@jaded5957]

A week later and the denim vest and floral redhead liberals are still infuriating to watch. Denim liberal for not knowing when to shut up and *listen* rather than just monologuing his virtue over everyone else, and floral redhead for condescendingly playing educator. Ooh, when he put his finger in Mario's face, I was (still) incensed.

[@baz3575]

No lies told. Both were beyond ignorant on so many angles, they were embarrassing to watch.

[@mattb6704]

At least redhead realises his mistake and apologised. Still thought he was a muppet but I give him props for being man enough to apologise and re open dialect.

[@jessicanotman5075]

The fact I watched this like 2 days ago and I was thinking ‘omg I would love to see Amala react to this!’ !!! Love the video💗 obsessed with the new setup too, love you both Amala and Taylor :)

[@LiamColeman-Halla-yq2jl]

Are you single?

[@jessicanotman5075]

@@LiamColeman-Halla-yq2jl ?

[@tarantulasarecool]

Same!!! So glad she did!!! ❤️

[@kthulhukif]

​@@LiamColeman-Halla-yq2jlweirdo

[@Kevxmed]

Being an older gay man (52) I remember when being gay in America was awful!! I remember actually fighting for rights and physical fights for my life. But now it’s all terrible??? Really?? I totally agree with you on separation of lgb and t(insert all random letters here) I never even go to prides anymore because of this whole thing.

[@lissazap86]

I get judged more for being a conservative than I do being gay by straight people and lgbt people... Especially in California.

[@pathacker4963]

Conservatives should be a protect class.

[@Chelsea123Chii]

I'm also from Cali and I wouldn't dare call myself a conservative. I'd rather say free-thinker or center-right, for reason I'm sure you know :(

[@Kelsea-im8ob]

It _is_ a group with some opinions many find objectionable.

[@mfallon130]

I’m a 45 yo gay man. I did drag once. That was fun enough. I’ve been to one pride parade in my early 30s. That was enough. I have my sexual fun, but I don’t flaunt it so much. You could call me ‘light blue’ or ‘light red’…Being out is one thing. Being too proud and too loud is another. In trying to erase a stigma with pride, it seems to have come full circle. If ‘the proud is too loud’ it can reinforce the old stigma again or layer in others that are new.

[@jessicamorse1528]

Thank you all for this video! You three are easily my favorite people on the Internet right now. Keep up the good work. The world needs you. ❤

[@Honeycoupe]

I remember when trans activists recently tried to use a biased study to “prove” almost no one regrets “top surgery” (The study came out of only one hospital and the average age at time of mastectomy was 27 years old.)

[@neotronextrem]

They banned multiple subreddits on Reddit that were about detransitioning, and hospitals bully people into silence that say they they regret transitioning, or where transitioning led to medical complications. Trans politics is a massive market, and insurances dont want to pay, so they'd rather bully people into silence.

[@DaedalusGage]

Make a part two, please! Good to see you, Amir! I could see how sad and frustrated you were when you were when you said "It enrages me, it blows my mind that this is a conversation I even have to have out loud." I was feeling it, too. Thank you for having that conversation, though. Oh boy, did that Jubilee discussion broke down... and there was a lot of denial of well-conducted studies going on. Good for Mario making that law. I feel bad for all the hate that was thrown his way.

[@tar_a]

My conclusion for anyone who keeps pushing for kids to have surgery before 18 despite overwhelming evidence against it is that they have an agenda they support, and getting kids to consent to irreversible surgery is the first step in giving kids the right to consent to "anything", even sex.

[@technoloverish]

How do you feel about surgically removing a newborn infant's extra finger, if, for example, they are born with 11 fingers? Having an extra body part is abnormal, but it's not necessarily harmful, and one could easily argue that an infant can't consent to getting those party removed

[@tar_a]

I'm confused as to how this has any bearing on what I just wrote. What are you getting at? @@technoloverish

[@technoloverish]

@@tar_a You said that surgery before age 18 is wrong, so I'm interested to see if that's your standard for all surgery before age 18

[@tar_a]

There's a context of discussion here that refers to gender affirmation and children under 18 giving consent, and not surgery in general. Are you equating having someone's penis or breasts surgically removed to having a malformed extra finger removed? @@technoloverish

[@Llama_charmer]

I remember a good friend of mine a few years back said path would eventually lead us to giving children the right to consent. It would appear that, while we havent quite reached that stage yet, it does appear to be moving in that direction

[@acidcrow4051]

I watched the Cartier family reaction to Amir, about the difference between the LGB and QT+. Very interesting, and Amir seems very intelligent and down to earth. I don't think anyone would be homophobic if they only met people with his morals. It's the extremists that make people 'homophobic'.

[@PoussinNoNeko]

Not really, it’s because of religion and traditional values. Homophobia is still strong in many countries around the World. Of course, both religion and traditional values are essential, but as we move to more open and tolerant societies, we are also learning more about human beings, so we can accept more and more differences. It’s all about education. We should become more open, but we should also keep what makes a society stable.

[@acidcrow4051]

@@PoussinNoNeko yeah, you are right. I meant to say secular people in the west, or more specifically the US. I know that being gay is considered illegal in many countries. But to be called homophobic in the US, you won't have to have any problems with peoples sexuality, you just have to think that the extremists are taking it too far to get that label.

[@PoussinNoNeko]

@@acidcrow4051 Oh I think I misunderstood what you were saying! Yeah, I would definitely be called "homophobic" and mostly "transphobic". Because I don't have much to say about the gay community apart from the sexualization during Pride, however I have very strong opinions about gender affirming care for kids.

[@benjamincapoen1122]

I would love to have an hour long conversation with Mario. He knows the stuff and opens so many eyes

[@inishireland]

I believe that everyone has a right to be with the person they love, no matter what sex they are. What I don't like is when anyone displays their sexual activities in public, there's nothing wrong with holding hands or a little kiss in public. Well, that's just my opinion 🤔

[@inishireland]

@On_Nicegram-RealAmalaEkpunobi Hi, I hope I haven't offended anyone with my thoughts, I rarely comment on these matters, thinking I'll not explain what I mean correctly

[@Whysoserious648]

​@@inishirelandit's fake

[@megauser8512]

@@Whysoserious648 What's fake? The naked people in public at some pride parades?

[@Whysoserious648]

@@megauser8512 the account the comment replied to it says real amala when it's fake

[@darkinertia2]

i figured after gay marriage was legalized that we were done with it, no one gave a shit about it when i was in my 20s during that point and i figured we were done with it and it was behind us. but it seems like all these activist companies ended up diverting all their donations to push the T in LGBT because they still need that sweet sweet gay donation money. i dont get why people have to make it their thing to talk about what kind of body part like they to suck on as their personality trait. so sad go collect stamps or model trains if you need a hobby that bad.

[@tarantulasarecool]

Yep exactly! We voted in a referendum here to legalize gay marriage (gay people would travel to NZ to officially get married!). I think results were like 60 something % for it. But yes gone way to far. I get the whole empathy thing, compassion for the men in heels & wigs getting bullied. I mean we made a very famous movie ‘Priscilla queen of the desert’ about drag (and Outback!). But that’s where it should end. Be performative or in appropriate spaces NOT at local shopping Centre as such.

[@baz3575]

Exactly. HRC and GLAAD looooove that donor money and access to celebrity, no way are they giving that up. They are gonna shift and grift to keep the money incoming.

[@baz3575]

@@tarantulasarecool Yep, 60%. I cannot stand the Coalition but the funniest thing was watching LGBT people condemn "cis straight yt bigots" after the fact when Abbott, Turnbull's etc areas all voted for marriage where the ethnic Labor strongholds in western Sydney strongly came out against it. The "yt" people they hate are not bothered by same-sex marriage at all but the "persecuted POC" don't want a drop of it near their kids. They have no clue how transparent their posing really is, lol.

[@charlihills8687]

I watched this just hours after it was uploaded and the whole time I was thinking “wait til Amala and Taylor hear about this” like a child thinking “wait til mum and dad find out what you just did!”

[@elitefataja248]

as a bisexual latino male who tends to be leaning way closer to the republican side. I never get the point of pride parades and I see them as some sort of degenerate show off

[@suntzu751]

as a gay dedicated conservative, this was a long time debate I wanted to see. So happy a lot of them were very repsectful and kind

[@christianscholz6102]

I was born with 2 thumbs on one hand...Omar's joke about fingephobic got me cracking up🤣😂

[@jonodonnell9926]

I think of a lot a lot of the reason people don't understand each other anymore because of this perceived division. Walk around talk to your friends talk to your neighbors . And you will see that there isn't as much hatred is that they let on in the media. We love each other more than they show. ❤️

[@sandraganadi7896]

I don't have much personal experience with the gay community. I live in a small village in the middle of nowhere in a very small country. All my experiences are from the media. The media presents the gay community as a very inappropriate male community, where their whole existence is about sex. As a conservative person all that was red flags for me and I had no idea that the gay community itself was divided. Listening to gay people like Amir, straightened my view and made me see gay people as normal humans, that don't carry their sexuality tattooed on their foreheads. I believe there is hope for us all to live together in harmony. Keep fighting for your image, don't let them ruin what you have achieved. Acceptance is a huge win for all the oppressed and you won in that regard. And sorry for my bad English :)

[@sj0223]

Its CRAZY TO ME that Barrett is so big on tiktok about not exposing children to sexual things and protecting them yet argues for public sex and indecent exposure and their "right" to do that. Thats not a right at all. And it makes him seem very obviously disingenuous.

[@samus891]

The community as it is right makes me wish I never were in the first place.... there definitely should be a separation LGB / TQ+ as they don`t even mean the same thing. One is gender structure based on how you feel as a person and the other is sexual orientation, which you can`t choose.... The two can somehow coexist if you adhere to all the ideologies out there but if you keep it simple, Gender identity and sexual orientation is two different thing. So many unnecessary accommodation people shouldn`t focus on their identity but who they WANT to become, working toward a goal and participating in society, you can`t know who you truly are unless you have lived your life already.

[@CigaretteCrayon]

I just wish it could be stated even more clearly, who you're getting into your bed shouldn't have ANYTHING to do with your economic policies. 😂

[@bbb12124]

Neither should bisexuality be included. Gay and lesbian are monosexuality.

[@clizbot]

You’re not the only one wanting that. And it may be presumable that in a few years it will be LGB/T///Q+

[@koppsr]

Plus the whole "gender structure based on how you feel as a person" thing turns into a steel boomerang very quickly, if for example hardcore christian conversion camps start using it as a justification. If you decide what You are, based on your feeling, then the "I'm born like this" defense will no longer be valid in their Argumentation and this will open up a WHOLE new can of worms. And I'm sorry but the original movement should've NEVER let this spiral out of control as it did. Everyone who tried to warn people back then about this exact outcome, was silenced by calling them homophobic and what not. Now suddenly everyone has their Pikachu face going and is SOOO astonished . Sorry, too little too late. Only the community itself can clean this mess up. Because you effectively labeled every outsider, who either tried to warn or to help you, a homophobe and a hater.

[@angeltx98]

Like Amir was saying about TN- I moved to a very rural area of E TN a couple years ago. I worried a bit just about HOW conservative it might be. It is VERY conservative politically but everyone is so accepting and welcoming. It continually surprises me just how many gay people I’ve met and befriended here. They live openly, unafraid of the big bad republicans they are surrounded by. Even if they may not agree with the lifestyle due to religious beliefs etc, they don’t make anyone feel like they aren’t loved or that they are not a part of their community.

[@shareathought769]

Good to hear.

[@MelAtlNP]

Congratulations Amala for going independent! And it was nice to see PragerU send you off with their best wishes.

[@agcarmich]

I love the redheaded guy who was saying the guy in the white jacket's experience represented a small portion of the community. Then turns around and brings up intersex individuals. Can you say your a hypocrite without saying you're a hypocrite?

[@tanner208]

Why is realizing that being gay is not and identity so hard for some people???

[@mason4966]

It is an identity. Or at the very least a part of one.

[@chloealexis593]

i can't believe they were arguing "oh well what about intersex people", literally less than 1% of people, and then in the same breath said "the amount of kids transitioning is very rare and barely happening". the foundation they ground all of their thinking on literally crumbles instantly simply because they need to justify their own opinions.

[@jhunsuc1239]

Love that you have Amir, the three of you are great!!!

[@Azzne-]

I will say that it is incredibly lonely without a community that accepts and supports you but that it should be an aspect of your life, not your whole life!

[@OmegaDelta82]

Not at all shocked that Barrett took to Instagram to play the victim. He has only proved everyone right.

[@j4r3d29]

Love Amir. He totally encapsulates how I feel as a gay Mexican (even tho he’s black lol)…. I just wanna exist. Being gay isn’t my whole personality. I don’t wanna just have sec with every man I see. I’m a man first, and gay second or even third.

[@johnnygaster2224]

To the first question: I think that the oversexualization is more of a male thing. When I think about stuff I've heard about grindr and compare it to my experience of dating as a lesbian, it's very different, and I don't think I've ever seen pictures of women in weird fetish gear at Pride. I guess it has something to do with lesbians being overly sexualized by straight men, like, lesbian porn made for men has always been super popular, so I think we try to sometimes even desexualize ourselves because of that. Like, it tells a lot imo that there's a huge industry of gay porn aimed at gay men, but lesbians don't really have that going on. Sure, there are some girls who go topless at Pride and engage in hookup culture, and there are a lot of gay men who just wanna live regular, normal lives, but the subcultures around those communities are very different, so even though this is centered around gay men, it would have been interesting if someone had brought it up, especially since they're talking about the whole LGBT community instead of just gay men.

[@spiraldown2710]

I got my period at 9. I was the first girl in my school to need a bra. I wouldn’t have blocked it. My body is haywire but it’s mine and I know it well.

[@redliz11180508]

I am a conservative lesbian

[@thomaspickin9376]

Well done for standing up for what you believe in. I'm not a conservative but I know how hard it can be to go against the grain of politics or thought in the scene... You can end up a pariah.

[@vervideosgiros1156]

If you're american people from republican party would banish you for being lesbian because they think you're a "sinner" or whatever bs.

[@masnwrdl0511]

I'm gay and I'm not a conservative or a liberal, but I do have more 'right wing' leaning views tho, especially about illegal immigration and children transitioning

[@MelAtlNP]

For many years before high school, I was such a Tomboy, and all of my friends were boys. I often wondered if I was born the wrong gender….soooo glad it wasn’t easy to transition back then. After I went through puberty, I suddenly LOVED being a woman…and I’m still glad I’m a woman. I’m sure many kids have those thoughts for a while.

[@PrettyGhostX]

Same

[@MelAtlNP]

@@PrettyGhostX 🙂

[@Thissolidsis]

Sidebar: I had a dream i met Amala in Kindergarten and we were best friends. She was adorable 😂🎉 Amir would be adorbs too! Love y'all now back to the show.😅

[@Thissolidsis]

Taylor would be a cute Muppet baby too!

[@crazyleaf257]

That's crazy . usually jubilee steps in and says "can we let them finish their thought?"

[@festekj]

Tops (conservatives) vs Bottoms (libs)

[@christopheralcine690]

😂

[@psychoticbean5975]

Me, a conservative bottom: 🤔

[@QueerCapricorn6572]

There is no tops without bottoms. Conservatives are pervs just in more vicious and nasty way.

[@sarahscarborough3942]

I was first introduced to LGBT when I was about 13. My friends at the time were all for it and were teaching me what the acronym meant. At first it was LGB, then LGBT, LGBTQ, LGBTQ+ and so on. When the T was introduced, my friends told me about it, and I began questioning my own gender and what I should be. I grew up a tomboy. I always felt more masculine than other other girls, and transitioning was something I initially thought I should do. I wanted to cut my hair, I wanted to wear boy clothes, at school I was called boy names. Now? I love being a woman. I want to be a mom, and and I know embrace that though I may be a masculine woman, I'm still also very feminine. I have a husband who accepts me, and a family who's loved me enough to not push me into any sort of gender affirming care. 13 was not the age to make life altering decisions, and thank you, Amala, Amir, and Taylor, for being a sound voice of reason that also validates stories like mine, and fight for children's safety.

[@j4r3d29]

I’m a gay conservative. I hate how sexualized my community makes us seem. I personally am not even interested in sex.

[@mason4966]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mason4966]

What??????

[@yxk99]

Im living in a country where LGBTQ+ is generally accepted in some ways. While there may be people who feel that this is wrong, but they dont get aggressive about it. No one is being beaten up or being judge for being different. Occasionally there may be some does show their discomfort. However our law does not recognise gay marriage. I used to think that this law must change, but at the same time im worried that my country will become like the US now.

[@Lonesome__Dove]

It will. Adopt the laws and it will. Guaranteed.

[@austenpoppy558]

You know, just because there are unwanted consequences to something, it should not prevent you from doing what's right. But to reassure you, plenty of countries that have changed the law regarding same-sex marriage are not in the same situation as the US.

[@hair4571]

it won’t i mean alot of countries legalizing gay marriage way before US are still fine, people of USA are too polarize politically that its politics is using them to either vilinized them or weaponised them on their political war.

[@nofoff2862]

Amir is an awesome content creator. Love seeing him on the show

[@andrewpatrick93]

Two things I have to say about the over sexualization of gay. From a young age, most gay movies, experiences were all about how you looked, hooking up, and sleeping around and it made me feel as a young gay man that I had to go and be sexual and when I was in these sexual encounters I had to be “submissive” and “please” the top I was sleeping with. It was my number one priority and goal and it ended up with me having sex and having a painful, unbearable experience on multiple occasions. On top of that, I ended up downloading Grindr at a young age, and hooking up with men as old as 40-43, while I myself was 14. Secondly, the one guy who said he felt comfortable. I’ve always been a chubby, slightly thicker framed young guy and I’ve never felt comfortable on the apps I’ve been, I’ve never felt comfortable being around other gay men. Because we put so much emphasize on how we look, how we dress, how we present ourselves, and often times we put so much emphasize on our worthy and how many partners we have had.

[@Omizuke]

I was in a rural town in Florida couple months back. And I saw a few gays in stores and down town. And I know they were gay, because of how brightly they were flashing it. One of them had the flag on his shirt. Another you could tell by how he was talking with his friend. No one cared.

[@jaltabalta7642]

Taylor's quick takes on things are often very solid. His comments can be ingenious. They help me develop a better-rounded perspective on different stuff.

[@drawntowardmadness]

😂😂😂😂😂 "Jamal's my angry black man side." ::grins the sweetest grin possible:: 😂

[@thetoxicheart2899]

Its crazy to think that my liberal views, growing up gay in the 90's would be considered conservative now. To think that not much has passed is insane.

[@skylarharley]

The current "Liberals" aren't fighting for liberation anymore.

[@inthewindago]

Puberty is like playing a video. People think blockers are putting the video on pause. That if you want to unpause the video. It will start playing right where it left off. Blockers are not a pause button. They are a mute button. The video keeps playing. If you wait to long to unmute. The video will be over, and their is no rewind! You missed it, and now you’re stuck with an undeveloped body of the rest of your life!

[@dicitalore605]

In some states a gay person can still be fired if their boss finds out that they're gay, there are no protections for employees against discrimination and this mostly has to do with the protections of freedom of religion. Also some states do not have protections against housing discrimination for gay people. So right there those are two examples of what rights gay people so not have.

[@antjea.3105]

Let's be real here: In the US, anyone can be fired at any time - no?

[@dicitalore605]

@@antjea.3105 you still need to have a reason and you still have rights to take legal action if you can show that you were fired unfairly or have been discriminated.

[@Mikron20]

The desperation, yes desperation, to let kids transition cause they liked a barbie movie once, is so insane. It's predatory, it's gross, it's horrific, it's going too far. It feels like grooming, and it makes me disgusted.

[@DEMIxGODxSHADOW]

If you have six fingers or toes doesnt mean thats what we call normal

[@oriongear2499]

Yeah. If someone has an extra finger and toe on both the right and left hands and feet, that's because of some sort of birth defect.

[@nicoli8437]

As a conservative gay , I always feel alone and left out, and seeing other conservative gays online gives me hope, but I want more gays to speak up and protest this nonsense.

[@Notshortyyval]

Damn I used to watch and follow Jean jacket on TikTok when I had it. Disappointed and not surprised. I love you all please keep the conversations going. I need my future kids to have a good and respectful childhood

[@ChronicallyofflineRavenclaw]

Amir took Uncouth and turned it into “You unwashed couth!” I’m crying 😂😂😂😂😂

[@timsmith8506]

Dude there’s a world of difference between holding your boyfriend’s hand in public and grinding on him while wearing a diamond studded banana hammock with your cheeks hanging out while screaming the lyrics to Chers’ hit Believe in front of 20,000 random strangers.

[@phoebe6297]

Pride is still necessary for those that don’t have acceptance at home. Doesnt need to be sexualised or exclusionary to just lgbt as long as there’s a hat tilt to it.

[@Whysoserious648]

Kinda but there could be other ways

[@crazyleaf257]

So many people miss out on the incredible character-building and freeing opportunity of admitting that you are wrong.

[@hovighovasapian2453]

They are saying that people get nose jobs and regret it and get hair plugs and regret it sooo if they are gonna regret those basic kinds of surgeries they think it ok for those same kinds of people to get life changing surgeries which according to him they most likely will regret.

[@baz3575]

Surgeries made by adults who more often than not understand the consequences. Kids change their minds every minute.

[@will_sketch]

👏👏 Amala and Amir ask and answer the right questions! 👏👏

[@JordonTheo]

Everybody loves Amir

[@sweetmelissa9992]

I am liberal, Bi, and a married ( to a man) mom of 2 young adults. I am Gen X, 48 yrs old, and found myself becoming more liberal as time went on. Today, as liberal as I KNOW I AM, I can't get on board with today's pride and child transitions. These kids are just looking to fit in somewhere and feel like they have friends and belong somewhere. The same reasons we used to smoke pot, kids are now cutting off their genitals. I quitsmoking weed over a decade ago. These kids will never get to change their minds. These kids should wait until they are fully developed. They will evolve so much from 12 to 20 that they won't recognize themselves when they look back. If they can't decide legally for that reason to be able to buy cigarettes and smoke, why do we let them decide to cut off a body part? I've watched a lot of detransition stories, why are their voices invalid?

[@geogass]

Let kids be kids, people. Their imagination are wild.Wilder than you've ever thought. So if your kid told you one day : "Dad, mom, I think I'm a dog." Give him time to rethink about it. Because I'm sure that in a timespan of few days, you'd ask him again, he'd say : "Oh yeah, forgot about that" or something in the same register. Well, that's the same thing for gender. For my case, I wasn't a tomboy but I didn't want to be a girl when I was younger just because it was so annoying to be (well, still is to be honest😂) = uncomfortable underwears, periods, catcalling , etc., I had enough when I was in middle school. But I grew up and fortunately my parents didn't take me seriously when I said multiple times "I wanna be a boy !" Well, to be fair, I'm not gonna lie, it was said jokingly. But sometimes I was damn serious.

[@shigeminotoge4514]

I am a transgender man, and even _I_ think there should be laws in place protecting children from mutilating their bodies with surgery or drugs. There's a reason we don't let 6 year olds get tattoos, or body piercings, there's a reason we don't let 12 year olds go to bars. These are young children who can't be responsible for making potentially body-altering, life altering decisions that effect their development. It's not transphobic to say an 8 year old can't make important life decisions on their own, it's a fact.

[@ortho-g9826]

What exactly is a CONSERVATIVE gay? Do they practice an ancient form of homosexuality??

[@elvickRULES]

I’m gay. A quote I heard and has stuck with me was always, “I want being gay to be as interesting as being left handed.” That’s exactly what I want. And independent of me my husband also knew of that quote. 1. Way too over sexualized. I hate it and am so glad I found my husband fresh out of the gate at 19, so I didn’t have to navigate the gay dating world at all. This idea I’ve seen a lot in media is that being gay necessitates being promiscuous or open relationships or sexual in how you present yourself, and this “what’s the point of being gay” if you don’t do those things and that’s just gross to me. (I’ve seen that attitude in multiple tv shows 😒) 2. I’ve never liked Pride, I can see its value back in the day and back then the gays looked like normal people by and large. Now it’s a joke that makes us look degenerate. I just don’t think we should be proud of things we didn’t accomplish. 🤷‍♂️ 3. Yes, though agree with Amala that we shouldn’t have the “community” anyway.

[@mikebickle823]

Straight people don't have parades showing off their sexuality and kinks 🤷‍♂️

[@williamnicholson8133]

There White girl wasted at every college weekend . Lol

[@Bean..]

I'm surprised no one talked about how they said "What about intersex?" And then IMMEDIATELY said "Well, detransitioners are such a small percentage" Like?? What??

[@marybeth808]

Cool guest! Amir has a great speaking voice.

[@kaloreadings4367]

i remember when i was 14 i thought i was so grown… im 20 now and looking back jesus i had no clue. children r usually in a rush to grow up and we think we know better but the reality is we simply havent lived enough to know. i also thought i was bisexual😭 im pretty sure i js wanted attention lmao

[@hannahmacdonald9040]

LOL I just have to comment because same, when I was 15 I thought I was bisexual, turns out it was a phase because I wanted to be quirky and different XD Kids/teenagers don't know SHIT, I know I definitely didn't looking back as a now 25 year old...I mean their frontal lobes aren't even nearly developed and we expect them to make rational, well thought out decisions that will impact the rest of their lives?? Its a joke

[@kamrynh7688]

I'm a lesbian and American. I've been harassed by strangers for holding hands with my fiancé but it's only happened a couple of times. Yeah it sucks and in the moment it's scary but I'm not going to pretend like I'm fighting for my life every single day. Homophobic people do still exist but it's not as crazy as some of these people make it out to be. I've lost a couple people in my life due to them being genuinely unable to accept my sexuality. There are some countries I'll never be able to go to or at least be myself in. But when it comes to living everyday life in this country, it's rare for me to experience true homophobia. Even when I do experience it, I move on with my life. The best way to "fight homophobia" is to just live my life and be happy.

[@Arthera0]

Even intersex is either male or female adjacent. you might have both sex organs but never both function completely . so its still 1 or the other

[@technoloverish]

Yes, but that's biological s*x, not gender