Ask a Pro-Life Atheist

An important form of pro-life activism is telling people you oppose abortion, especially if your social circle is predominantly pro-choice.
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[@speculativebubble5713]

Do you agree with the label "pro-life" or do you feel "pro-birth" represents your views more appropriately?

[@secularprolife]

"Anti-abortion" is probably the most accurate, but "pro-life" is more accurate than "pro-birth."

[@nobleradical2158]

I do not know why this was recommended to me… But I don’t understand how you think that preventing other people from having access to abortions is good or helpful.

[@melonyrobinson9944]

@@nobleradical2158 Abortion kills an innocent human being and is almost never medically necessary. Preventing abortion access literally saves lives

[@secularprolife]

Abortion kills humans. It's a human rights violation. Preventing access to human rights violations is good. If you do want to know more, we have a lot of details here: secularprolife.org/abortion/

[@E2theBizzle]

I can always tell when one of these videos is getting good reach because the comment section will be mostly made of antagonistic pro-choicers that have never seen an SPL video before. Welcome! I hope most of you stick around and engage with this channel but past experience, sadly, suggests that none of you will.

[@brandons9138]

There is no logical reason for a pro life stance outside of an individuals own personal choice. A person having an abortion in no way effects anyone but themselves. You have every right to be pro life, but you have ZERO right to try and take that choice from anyone else.

[@UnexpectedTurnOfEvents]

Of course there is. A person does harm someone else... The life of another human. Just because it's inside of a person for 9 months it doesn't make that life any less of a human life. As for taking away a choice, we already agree that killing a human is a choice that is not socially acceptable. So you're saying that the location of that human (inside or outside of another human body) makes all the difference? I don't see your logic.

[@brandons9138]

​​@@UnexpectedTurnOfEvents 96% of abortions happen before the 15 week. At that point calling it a human life is just emotional manipulation. It's "potentially" a human life. That's it. It's not a sentient being. It can't survive outside the womb. Following your logic no person should ever be removed from life support. Even in the absence of brain activity they should be forced to be kept "alive". In both of these situations there is no "person" to speak of.

[@christiansaravia7865]

It quite literally affects the unborn human, biology has concluded that life begins at fertilization.

[@brandons9138]

​@@UnexpectedTurnOfEvents96% of abortions happen before the 15 week. At that point calling it a human life is just emotional manipulation. It's "potentially" a human life. That's it. It's not a sentient being. It can't survive outside the womb. Following your logic no person should ever be removed from life support. Even in the absence of brain activity they should be forced to be kept "alive". In both of these situations there is no "person" to speak of.

[@the_archmaester]

​@@christiansaravia7865most fertilisation doesn't actually result in pregnancy.... so...

[@justanotherweirdo11]

Forcing people to remain pregnant against their will is unethical.

[@melonyrobinson9944]

@@justanotherweirdo11 killing living human beings is unethical too

[@christiansaravia7865]

Killing a growing human being with a fully unique and separate DNA from both parents when your actions placed them there is unethical.

[@justanotherweirdo11]

@@christiansaravia7865 Abortion in cases of rape is illegal where I live so no "your actions placed them there" is not necessarily true. Pregnancy raises one's morbidity and mortality rate and it should be consented to even if that means killing a developing human.

[@secularprolife]

Killing children in utero is unethical.

[@rebekahlee7360]

Oooh, you know you’re going the right way if you meet many enemies- not always true, of course, but true in video games and here, where real life matters most. Keep up the good work!

[@divineatmidnight]

Being pro-life is not a closeted thing, you aren't victims, and you aren't being oppressed. You're just wrong

[@melonyrobinson9944]

It depends on experience. As a pro lifer in a very pro choice state, people assume you are pro choice and there is a lot of pressure not to voice pro life views. Regardless of whether or not you think we're right, that doesn't mean we're never treated poorly or seen as bad people because of our views. That can happen to any group

[@thefalselemon579]

​@@melonyrobinson9944 Being objectively wrong about a moral issue will often put you in a precarious position. Pro-choice people don't condone the murder of babies who have been born. And late-term abortions are very contentious among even the most liberal of pro-choicers. Pro-birthers, as you should be more aptly called, are so totalitarian in your views that you make the case that there is no situation that warrants abortion. You ignore r4pe cases, child r4pe and child pregnancy cases, and cases in which the health of the mother is at stake. You have no grounds for your beliefs. This video and the supposed organization just feel like a psy-op created by christian pro-birthers to attempt to sway atheists to their cause.

[@BandlerChing]

@@melonyrobinson9944you could say this about anything. “I live in a very pro-lgbtq state, so being anti-gay is seen as negative” or “I live in a very diverse area, where being a raci st is looked down on” You are ostracized because you are wrong. And the only reason you are ostracized for being wrong is because you tell people about your opinion. And since you do not have to have an abortion if you do not want to, your opinion on whether other people do is irrelevant

[@melonyrobinson9944]

@@BandlerChing from a pro life perspective, abortion is literally murder, so saying that we shouldn't care if anyone has an abortion is not a compelling argument

[@melonyrobinson9944]

@@thefalselemon579 actually some pro choices do condone killing born children (partial birth abortion). Plus many deny that late term abortions that are not medically necessary happen. "Pro birthers" do actually support exceptions for if an abortion is medically necessary. And honestly, we generally don't support other exceptions because it would be morally inconsistent, but many pro lifers would be glad even for a ban with rape and incest exceptions, especially since those only make up a small minority of abortions anyway. The pro life view is grounded in biology and a belief in basic human rights for all humans. Plus pro choicers assume thay we dont care about the women involved at all, when we actually provide lots of resources for them and advocate on their behalf. Assuming that this group must be Christian because you don't understand their views is honestly rather shallow. Also calling us pro birthers just means no one will take you seriously. It's a strawman and shows that you have no understanding of our actual beliefs or perspective, which is kind of important to have if you are arguing against someone.

[@ryanjackson6298]

I'm genuinely curious what mental gymnastics are going on to have this sort of viewpoint given the context

[@hunterlogan9755]

The mental gymnastics go something like this: -It is immoral to take an innocent human life. -once a fetus/baby becomes a human being, it is immoral to end that person’s life.

[@secularprolife]

You can read a lot more about our stance here: secularprolife.org/abortion/

[@joshsuko8185]

Arguments are very clearly and logically presented on their website.

[@chidmania8485]

I've followed your Facebook page for years. I'm happy to follow you on KZbin as well. Keep up the good work.

[@Kyra-qn3nh]

Kids only matter when they're not born yet 🎵

[@secularprolife]

The laziest slander, perpetuated by people who want to ad hom their way out of engaging the debate.