Face to Face: Dr. Brown Responds to Rabbi Blumenthal

[@TheAlexa6]

Thank you Rabbis Brown and Blumenthal. I was raised by a Jewish mother who sent me to an Orthodox Hebrew day school from age 5-12. My father’s family are Christian and disowned us. I had a deep distrust and disdain for Christianity as a result of this rejection which was exacerbated by other antisemitic experiences. I fell away from Judaism and ended up in the new age for 20 years. I finally reached a low point where I cried out to God to please show me the truth, that I was done rebelling and God led me directly to Jesus both materially and supernaturally. A lifetime of anxiety, depression, unworthiness, judgment of self and others was lifted. I was unable to do any bit of this myself and Orthodox and Reform Judaism did not ever heal my heart nor change my ways. The Church has absolutely given Jews many reasons to run far away from Yeshua and this is sadly not a reflection of our Jewish messiah but of human corruption and lack of adherence to his teachings. For my Jewish family, I love you so much. Forget the Rabbis and the Christian Pastors and humble yourselves, ask God directly to show you the truth ❤

[@faithinGod77]

Me, turned away from my upbringing in Christianity for 27 years, when I asked the question....Jesus did you really walk this earth? Then God answered me by sending a man, led by the Spirit, to say to me....yes, and His Hebrew name is Yeshua.

[@kibbah]

Thank you both for your honesty, fortitude and experiences. There is yet Hope for those who persecutes, disbelieve and reject Christ because of our belief in Him.

[@OleaYonn]

Do you have faith in jesus as a your god

[@Dina-es6vi]

I also asked God to show me the truth after 50 plus years involved in Christian churches and I was shown Shabbat first, messianic Judaism and now just a Noahide as I wait for conversion to Judaism. How much are you willing to roll up your sleeves and dig in as a good detective? The song clearly shows the people first pick their king in what is good in their eyes but then we see God’s true pick… Hamelech David. Thanks for giving me yet another confirmation that I am on the right path. I thank Tovia Singer, Rabbi Skobac on KZbin “a rabbi cross examines the New Testament” … Baruch Hashem!❤ And the Northern kingdom (who became the lost 10 tribes scattered over the world) MUST let go of their idols… making a god into their likeness… worshiping the creature instead of creator….(a NT saying in Romans) …. This is the song replaying…. Must break through this cycle as seeing the Messiah as God himself. Messiah is not God! Help redeem this dear fellow Jew that was crucified among with many other Jewish Zealots who would NEVER want to be worshipped in place of God. Look also at Caesar’s Messiah on KZbin.. absolutely fascinating agenda to control the masses … they loved Zeus and even hear that name in Iseus in KJV 1611 and later Jesus in KJV. Just look… open heart and mind. I could not do it for years but so freeing as I learn about Noahides and if/when I should convert to Judaism.❤🇮🇱

[@beagleman123456789]

Brown is not a Rabbi ‘

[@mattcahoe8311]

This was a wonderful conversation. I appreciate the kindness Rabbi Blumenthal and Dr. Brown displayed in firmly holding their positions yet disagreeing in a charitable way for the enrichement of the viewers.

[@hectorestrada9877]

What a great example by Dr. Michael Brown & Rabbi Blumenthal. We need more like this!

[@VictoriaEzpeletaLucas]

So agree!

[@beagleman123456789]

Brown is no match for Rabbi Blumenthal as Rabbi is a Yeshiva Scholar of the up most.

[@hectorestrada9877]

@@beagleman123456789 "I have seen everything that is done under the sun, and behold, all is vanity and a striving after wind." Ecclesiastes 1:14

[@rockystrider]

Within 10 minutes of watching, it's crystal clear that Dr. Michael Brown is graced with Superior Wisdom, Supernatural Humility, and an undying love for the truth.

[@GentleMenschClub]

Rabbi Blumenthal did a great job. I am glad this turned out to be a respectful and thoughtful conversation. This should be a blueprint for such difficult conversations.

[@vanessavillalobos-rl4fi]

Thank you Rabbi Blumenthal for using this method to get responses from Dr. Brown. I appreciate it so very much. I am a gentile and you have shown the light of the God of Israel in this video. Thank you for asking these questions, and providing the opportunity for Dr. Brown to respond. I am glad I was able to hear Dr. Browns responses, yet disappointed that he did not address your questions directly or clearly, but rather “beat around the bush” and went down other “paths” to avoid the questions/answers the entire time. Thank you sincerely.

[@Dina-es6vi]

Agreed. He can’t refute truth❤

[@faithfulservantofchrist9876]

He is trying to be non-confrontational, he has answered most Jewish Objections. Tovia Singer lost 30 years ago and still won't debate him again. Tovia got proved wrong on literally everything its on KZbin. Dr. Browns 5 volume set. Unless your Jewish and nothing Dr. Brown says will you ever consider there is that.

[@faithfulservantofchrist9876]

@@Dina-es6vi No its because Rabbi doesnt want to debate him. Dr. Brown wanted a debate Rabbi won't. Stop just assuming things we get it your Jewish ,

[@faithfulservantofchrist9876]

@@Dina-es6vi Israel is Isaiah 53? Not possible Israeli violence is off the chart right now. You think that fits Isaiah 53? Talking about no violence. Israel is in a war wirh everyone right now.

[@vanessavillalobos-rl4fi]

@@faithfulservantofchrist9876 My response to Dr. Brown’s question at 2:55 in the video, (as a former Christian) is I am so thankful for this video because it reveals how idolatry is worded to convince people that worshipping a human is not idolatry. I do not see in anyway how Dr. Brown can believe he “won.”

[@petrekolev7224]

Respect for rabbi Blumenthal. The fact that he agreed to engage in this discussion means he's a truth seeker. I pray that he has a Saul like revelation on the road to Damascus. He was in a similar situation.

[@kierinsusukaii4745]

This is nowhere near the same situation because unlike Paul this Rabbi isn't trying to rewrite scripture because he thinks he law is too much and a curse...it's odd what God calls people holy for keeping y'all think are curse for doing what he asks them to do...think about it what are you saying when you say don't keep the law... You are saying plainly "surely you should do not OBEY because what God made good is evil" ... This is what the reality of what is really being said though no one ever pays attention to what they actually are saying

[@piouswhale]

Dr Brown is dishonest and a liar. The good Rabbi’s writings have completely shutdown dr brown’s ridiculous points

[@davida3343]

@ we got Tovia Singer fan boy over here .. spitting on the keyboard as you typing here ?

[@kierinsusukaii4745]

@@davida3343 know what a fanboy is... they don't care if the person they are a fan of is wrong they will back them and agree with everything... I don't agree with every single thing any rabbi say... I do however like Rabbi singer, but Blumenthal and Skobac are my favorites because I personally speak with them.... WHAY IS YOUR POINT though??? Do you have something to disprove or do you think personal attacks has a way to justify miss-interpretting or mistranslating scripture??? what's your excuse exactly because so far you come up with some weak minded Psychological method to basically try to downplay what I stated or maybe Rabbi Singer is living free in your head because he hit some pointss that you can't handle maybe that's why you are here watching Michael Brown ...i mean it was so random to say Rabbi Singer I am going to guess you watched the debate of Singer and Brown and dealt with alot of comments and commonly put rabbi Singer down .... Let me tell you this.... That is a game you want to play and you will play it all alone in your little head because I could care less... what I was talking about had nothing to do with Rabbi Singer so why bring him up?

[@beagleman123456789]

@@davida3343Rabbi Singer is a Righteous Man ‘

[@user-464]

What a wonderfully mutually respectful dialogue. It is much appreciated. Thank you to each of you.

[@callicarol]

I can’t adequately express my gratitude to both of you for the calmness and respect you both demonstrated in this discussion. Many, many thanks for this!

[@RightInChrist]

🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00 *🎥 Introduction and context of dialogue between Dr. Brown and Rabbi Blumenthal* - Introduction to the history of dialogue between Dr. Brown and Rabbi Blumenthal, 02:30 *📜 The "totality of scripture" question* - Rabbi Blumenthal introduces his question about how both Jews and Christians interpret the Jewish Bible differently, 06:34 *🌍 Dr. Brown's view of God's redemptive plan for the nations* - Dr. Brown sees scripture pointing to the redemption of nations through Israel and the coming of the Messiah, 11:15 *🎶 Rabbi Blumenthal’s perspective on the "song" of scripture* - Rabbi Blumenthal acknowledges that both Jews and Christians feel a deep connection to the "song" or tenor of scripture, 15:18 *🕊️ Differing views on God's work through Israel and the Messiah* - Dr. Brown asserts that the Jewish rejection of Jesus and God's ongoing work among the nations through Jesus affirm his view, 18:21 *🔍 Clarifying perspectives on scripture and prophecy* - Dr. Brown and Rabbi Blumenthal summarize their positions: Brown sees Messiah’s coming and the redemption of the nations as key themes of scripture, 21:22 *🏛️ Dr. Brown introduces the question of faith structure* - Dr. Brown introduces the next question regarding the system God established to ensure future generations know the truth about Him, 24:06 *🕊️ Dr. Brown critiques Rabbinic Judaism’s break from scripture* - Dr. Brown points out that Rabbinic Judaism diverged from biblical practices after the destruction of the Second Temple, 28:00 *🛠️ Rabbi Blumenthal defends the pre-biblical covenant* - Rabbi Blumenthal emphasizes that God established a system for passing down truth before the Bible was written, based on the Exodus and Sinai experiences, 33:12 *🔄 Contrasting views on generational testimony vs. scripture* - Dr. Brown questions the reliance on generational testimony, arguing that throughout history, Jewish ancestors often strayed from God’s path, 37:05 *🌍 The Jewish covenant and its significance for identity* - Rabbi Blumenthal describes how the Jewish covenant, rooted in shared experiences of Sinai and the Exodus, sets the Jewish people apart from other nations, 40:01 *🏛️ The role of scripture within the Jewish covenant* - Rabbi Blumenthal argues that the Bible exists within the context of the pre-existing covenant and should not be removed from it, 42:47 *🔄 Clarifying the relationship between Rabbinic tradition and scripture* - Rabbi Blumenthal explains that his second question about the Jewish tradition of receiving the Torah is not related to the first question about the totality of scripture, 46:30 *🕊️ Misrepresentation of Rabbinic Judaism’s view on sacrifices* - Rabbi Blumenthal raises the issue that Dr. Brown misrepresents the Rabbinic stance on sacrifices, claiming Rabbinic Judaism never believed in replacing sacrifices with prayer or charity, 50:14 *📚 The role of repentance and atonement in Rabbinic thought* - Dr. Brown presents quotes from various Jewish sources, including Rabbi Tovia Singer and *Encyclopedia Judaica*, that suggest Rabbinic Judaism offered alternatives like prayer and repentance in the absence of sacrifices, 57:08 *🔄 Diverging views on atonement and sacrifices in scripture* - Dr. Brown continues to argue that blood sacrifices were central to atonement in scripture, supporting his view with statistics on the frequency of atonement-related verses in the Torah, 01:00:10 *🔍 The significance of sacrifices in the temple context* - Dr. Brown argues that the temple’s primary role was for atonement, particularly through sacrifices, which is why it is referred to as a "house of sacrifice" in scripture, 01:03:10 *🔥 The role of atonement and obedience in sacrifices* - Discussion of atonement and obedience as the primary purposes of sacrifices, 01:07:11 *🏛️ The significance of the temple and atonement without sacrifices* - Rabbi Blumenthal asserts that the Bible does not explicitly state that atonement is impossible without the temple, 01:12:20 *🩸 The importance of blood in the context of atonement* - Dr. Brown quotes Leviticus 17 to explain that blood is essential for atonement, highlighting its sacred role, 01:17:18 *📜 The ongoing relevance of sacrifices and the temple in Jewish and Christian thought* - Dr. Brown and Rabbi Blumenthal discuss the lasting significance of the temple and sacrifices in their respective faiths, 01:20:00 *🕊️ The role of Yom Kippur and daily repentance in post-temple Judaism* - Dr. Brown explores the significance of Yom Kippur, even after the destruction of the temple, as a key day for atonement, 01:21:39 *🌍 Exile, judgment, and the absence of the temple* - Rabbi Blumenthal discusses the spiritual impact of living without the temple, seeing it as evidence of Divine judgment and a lack of open closeness to God, 01:25:52 *🔄 Addressing sin, exile, and community responsibility* - Dr. Brown emphasizes the significance of the national rejection of the Messiah in explaining why the Jewish people remain in exile, 01:31:09 *💬 Repentance in Jewish practice: Personal and communal perspectives* - Rabbi Blumenthal explains the role of Yom Kippur in the Jewish community, emphasizing that it is both a personal and communal experience of repentance, 01:35:10 *🕊️ The heart of repentance: Trusting in God's mercy* - Rabbi Blumenthal and Dr. Brown discuss the deep nature of repentance, where one fully leans on God's mercy and acknowledges the depth of sin, 01:39:26 *🐑 The role of sacrifices: Outward expression of the heart* - Rabbi Blumenthal and Dr. Brown discuss the role of temple sacrifices, agreeing that sacrifices were outward expressions of an internal reality, 01:40:25 *🐏 The role of sacrifices in repentance and atonement* - Rabbi Blumenthal discusses the idea that sacrifices during the Temple period were an outward manifestation of repentance, necessary because of God's public presence, 01:43:44 *✡️ God as the Temple during exile* - Rabbi Blumenthal and Dr. Brown discuss the interpretation of Ezekiel 11:16, with Rabbi Blumenthal acknowledging that the verse represents a "diminished sanctuary" during exile, 01:46:34 *📜 Deuteronomy 30 and repentance* - Rabbi Blumenthal points to Deuteronomy 30 as a foundational passage for Jewish repentance, emphasizing that God calls the nation to return to Him through the Torah's commandments, 01:51:05 *👑 The role of the Messiah in Deuteronomy 30* - Rabbi Blumenthal explains that in Jewish tradition, the Messiah comes in response to repentance and plays a significant role in the process of national restoration, 01:55:04 *🛐 Yearning for the Messiah and the return to God* - Rabbi Blumenthal elaborates on the concept of yearning for the Messiah and David as essential to Jewish faith, emphasizing that seeking David means seeking a deeper relationship with God, 02:00:53 *👁️ God's form and revelation in the Bible* - Dr. Brown discusses the concept of seeing God’s form, noting that passages like Numbers 12:8 and Psalm 17:15 speak of seeing the "form" of the Lord, 02:04:22 *⚖️ The covenant and the worship of God* - Rabbi Blumenthal highlights Deuteronomy 4's foundational role in Israel’s covenant with God, emphasizing that the Israelites were taught to worship only the God revealed at Sinai, 02:07:47 *💓 Differing perspectives on love for God* - Rabbi Blumenthal and Dr. Brown discuss the concept of love for God versus love for Jesus, 02:12:49 *🌄 Nature, revelation, and idolatry* 02:21:46 *✝️ Differentiating love for Jesus and God in Christianity* 02:26:02 *🛐 The nature of idolatry and the Sinai Revelation* 02:30:00 *🖼️ Human forms and worship* 02:33:03 *💬 God’s revelation through Jesus* 02:41:11 *💔 Fusion of love for God and Jesus in Christianity* 02:46:02 *🤝 Love for a divine figure or a righteous person* 02:50:13 *🧠 Distorted understanding of God* 02:54:49 *📜 Historical misunderstandings of Jesus* 03:00:13 *🙏 Jews rejecting false representations of Jesus throughout history* 03:03:09 *🏆 The honor of Jewish martyrdom* 03:06:07 *🕊️ Christian martyrs and shared admiration* 03:09:20 *📚 Differing views on religious teachings* 03:13:03 *📖 Jewish and Christian orientations towards religious practice* 03:19:58 *💡 Differing Perspectives on Religious Practices* 03:21:05 *📚 The Jewish Bible as a Key to the Debate* 03:23:06 *📜 Christians' Understanding of Jewish Messianic Expectations* 03:27:02 *🤝 Clarifying Messianic Peace and Prophecies* 03:29:33 *🕊️ Understanding Messiah's Role in Scripture* 03:31:02 *🔄 Changing Nature of Jewish-Christian Debate* 03:39:22 *📜 The Oral Law and Its Interpretation for Outsiders* 03:41:17 *⚖️ Torah Obedience and the Potential for Legalism* 03:44:03 *🏛️ The Transformational Power of Torah and the New Covenant* 03:46:34 *✨ Circumcision of the Heart: Command and Divine Assistance* Made with HARPA AI

[@milkshakalaka6461]

Wooow, this is amazing. Thank you so much!

[@TamarSWalker7]

Dr. Brown is so very clear and has a gift for breaking down lofty theological concepts into simple language.

[@corip8083]

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6

[@amyhenningsgard8618]

📖✝️❣️🕊️🕎✡️🐑👑🙏🏻

[@katlookingup3625]

In Jesus name, Amen💕

[@Truth-f2q]

Isaiah 9:6..... Mistranslation ..... Trinitarians should admit that this verse is translated improperly just from the fact that Jesus is never called the “Everlasting Father” anywhere else in Scripture.

[@nahahvarietychannel3293]

​@@Truth-f2qbut infact man cannot become God, thats blasphemy, or this verse suggested that we are an idol worshipper. Jesus Christ is the Word Of God became flesh. Since He is the Word Of God mean that He Himself is part of God the father. Whatever God commanded Jesus is the once who spoke. They acts in harmony.

[@ianhastie5785]

@@Truth-f2qdo you mean “mistranslated” as “misunderstood”? Because that’s not simply from texts written after Jesus, that’s translated from the Septuagint and in the Hebrew text found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

[@oosn0b0ardroo]

Towards the beginning of this video, I was not convinced that this Rabbi was interested in hearing and engaging in good faith with the Christian perspective, but as the video went on, I became much more impressed. My genuine prayer is that this conversation can be a catalyst for our Jewish brothers to come to know the saving grace and redemption of our Lord and Saviour, Yeshua Hamashiach.

[@1g1d1w]

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[@piouswhale]

To convert out of Judaism is the spiritual death of the Jew. To be rbe one converting a Jew out of their faith is identical to murdering that Jew’s soul. Dont do it. Furthermore, the words “The Messiah” or “HaMashiach” dont appear anywhere in the bible. You are deeply ignorant

[@oosn0b0ardroo]

@piouswhale I am aware that HaMashiach means the Anointed One - not the Messiah as you seem to imply that it means, but regardless, the concept of a coming Messiah is indeed found in many of the prophets. Christians worship the same God as the Jews. We're not asking Jews to convert out of Judaism, we're inviting Jews to recognize that their promised one has already come to fulfill the Old Covenant (of the law) and make a New Covenant with His people which brings us redemption and reconciliation to God through the sacrifice of God's pure spotless lamb: Yeshua. He atones for our sins once and for all and the Lord has given us symbols and types throughout his Word so that we might recognize His promised one when he came. Regardless of YOUR belief about the issue, there are Jews all over the world who are still awaiting their promised Messiah. Followers of Yeshua believe that He has already come and He has saved and He is coming again to destroy the earth with fire while he rescues His people and redeems His creation once again.

[@ntshiila]

​@piouswhale A Jew is a man who must follow God's command not a man.

[@alexiaioannides779]

⁠@@piouswhalesharing faith about Yeshua to a Jew and them choosing to believe in Yeshua as the incarnate God doesn’t make them any less Jewish. It’s the completion of the Jewish faith as all of the OT prophecies point to. What was sprinkled over the door posts of the Israelites for the Angel of death to pass over? The blood of the Lamb. What was Abraham commanded to do by God to demonstrate obedience and trust? Sacrifice his son Isaac and then God provided a “replacement” atoning sacrifice in the thicket. What did the High Priest do every year to atone for the sins of the Jewish nation? Shed the blood of a spotless lamb. Wake up my friend. This is the Tanakh speaking of atonement as a theme throughout Israel’s history. Can’t get any more Jewish than the Tanakh.

[@naturerocks8722]

What a beautiful authentic loving exchange! That is the way all exchanges should be! With open hearts and not to win a debate. Thank you so much for your beautiful heart Rabbi Blumenthal! I have rarely seen a traditional Rabbi carry on such a deep complex differences with such patience, love and knowledge and effort to come closer to Adonai and truth. Thank you Dr. Brown for hosting and bringing forth this exchange. Adonai bless you both and keep you both. Praying for our beloved Israel and pur precious heroes in the IDF! 🙏🙏🙏

[@NarnianLady]

Yes! Such joy to see civil interaction, especially in these times of great upheaval

[@YoelCohen1424]

This is excellent. I'm going through this piece by piece, but I want to thank Dr. Michael Brown & Rabbi Blumenthal for sitting down together & having this dialogue/discussion.

[@YoelCohen1424]

@ALPONYC No that isn't correct. That prophecy was fulfilled once the Jews/Israelites left Egypt. There was no future prophecy to be fulfilled after that. According to Orthodox Jews God calculated the bandage from the time when Isaac was born until Moses took them out of Egypt. Instead of being in Egypt for 400 or 430 years the Israelites were only in Egypt for 210 years. Rashi does the whole calculation from the time Jacob moved down into Egypt in Goshen and counts the generations by name including the ages they lived too, offspring etc. The Torah gives a list of names. Why does the Torah say 430 in one place & 400 in another? Because 30 years lapsed between the prophecy God made with Abraham & another prophecy God repeated when Isaac was born. The count begins 400 years of being in any land not our own. Canaan was not our own until God delivered the Canaanites into our land and God said to the Israelites I will give you the land I swore by oath to your forefathers. Thus proven the oath hadn't been fulfill yet.

[@YoelCohen1424]

@ALPONYC If you minus 400-210 you find that they rest of the time the Israelites were in Canaan or moved around e.g. see the life of Jacob & his travels. The 400 didn't need to be enslaved in Egypt. It was just a prophecy of exile.

[@YoelCohen1424]

​​@ALPONYCIn Christianity there is no sacrifice for sin because JC is the last & final blood sacrifice. In Judaism we don't believe the gentiles have to suffer because of us. There are two different covenants. For gentiles their covenant is the covenant made with Prophet Noah & the 7 Noahide Laws. America isn't mentioned in the bible. Persia is, Babylon is but America is absent.

[@YoelCohen1424]

​@ALPONYCSo I thought you were a regular Christian. I'm confused. I haven't heard of your religion. What religion do you belong too?

[@Dina-es6vi]

@@YoelCohen1424good explanation! Thank you… had heard that in past and forgot it… glad you pointed that out again maybe it will sink in to my memory this time!

[@markmetternich7629]

Loved it! Should be so much more of this respectable dialogue going on between the communities.

[@christicovey3498]

We love Jesus because we love him with the love God gave..

[@MaxKey-oo5un]

Respectful dialogue God bless Dr Brown and the Rabbi Blementhal

[@akalisreltub4928]

I enjoy dialogue like this. While there is disagreement, its civil and a "conversation". Great work!

[@LordDirus007]

Yes, not every conversation of faith between Jews and Christians need to be a debate.

[@kennedyjai8715]

Rabbi Tovia Singer should learn how to have such a dialogue like that to bring peace but leave it to the listener to seek truth themselves..Excellent dialogue with respect. 🙏🙏🙏

[@xepturate]

He has his own style no problem with Rabbi Singer and how he teaches

[@thomasmichael5396]

Serve the Lord with love and laughter Dr. Brown.

[@Alltripped]

There was a time not so long ago, this meeting could not happen without a physical altercation. Now, here in America, we have forgotten how special this is. Truly God has changed something. How beautiful it is and how lucky we are, through the Grace of God, to be living at this time.

[@mariomene2051]

46:18 Third Question : Atonement As a Christian, the rabbi's insistence on minimizing the atonement, and maximizing his works, helped me see my error, and really edified me. I may have turned a corner.

[@kymdickman8910]

Praise our Heavenly Father!

[@charles-777]

Thank you so much for you and Rabbi Blumenthol. I’ve learned so much from Rabbi & do appreciate the wisdom and experience he share. My family has been so in knoweledgeable of God and his ways

[@melaniebrown5761]

I love this healthy conversation of enlightenment.

[@fredthomson2182]

Jesus asks Peter, who do you say that I Am? When Peter correctly declares Him to be The Messiah, Jesus tells him to not think himself smarter or better than the others because this revelation is a gift from God. Praise God for His revealing Himself to us believers and keep the others in prayer as there is no intellectual revelation outside of a spiritual one first. Thank you Dr Brown as your answers may be unintelligible to this Rabbi but to someone in the audience it could be life changing.

[@Louis.R]

great comment

[@jacobmaya526]

The word "Messiah" means anointed. When Jesus was alive he was never anointed. The Messiah is a king. When Jesus was alive he was never a king. The Messiah must fulfill prophecies like gathering all Jews back to the land of Israel, rebuilding the Third Temple, ending all war, hatred, and famine, establishing world wide peace, bringing the dead back to life, etc. None of which Jesus accomplished. In Tanakh, no such concept of a second coming exists. Every time the prophets speak of the Messianic era they're always referring to the same time period, which is after the end of days. Two thousand years ago was not the end of days because here we are two thousand years later. The prophets never mention the Messiah coming early, being killed, and then coming back in the future. The Messiah must also be a direct descendant of King David through his father's lineage. According to the new testament, Jesus had no biological father. It claims he was born of a virgin. In that case, how does he descend from King David through his father if he had no father? We'll set aside the fact that a virgin birth is not a Jewish concept. It's strictly a pagan concept. But for the sake of argument, we'll set that aside. Well then, if Jesus was really born of a virgin, how does he descend from King David through his father? Some Christians have tried to claim that Joseph descended from King David and he adopted Jesus. The problem is adoption does not pass on tribal lineage. We know this using the 24 books of the Bible. If a Cohen adopts a child, that child does not become a Cohen. If a Levite adopts a child, that child does not become a Levite. Whatever tribe a man is from he could never pass on his lineage to an adopted child. Then some Christians try to claim that Jesus' mother Mary descended from King David. There are two problems with this claim. First problem is tribal lineage only goes through the father, not the mother. Whether the mother descends from King David or not is irrelevant, it's specifically through the father that the Messiah will descend from King David. Second problem is, even if the Christian wants to ignore the fact that tribal lineage only goes through the father, not the mother, and insist that Jesus descended from King David through his mother, according to the new testament, Mary descended from King David through his son Nathan. We know that the Messiah will descend from King David through his son Solomon. So this would mean that Jesus descended from King David through his son Nathan, the wrong son. But the first thing I want to do is prove the Torah true. If I can prove the Torah to be true I can automatically disprove Christianity. The Torah is the only religious book in the history of the world where an entire nation saw the miracles in Egypt, saw the splitting of the sea, walked out of Egypt, and heard G-d speak at Mount Sinai. It's the only religion where all of it's people received prophecy hearing the first two commandments of G-d. There is no other book in history that makes this same claim. If you look at every other religion, they all make claims that cannot be proven. For example in Christianity, it says that Jesus was born of a virgin. How can anyone prove this? How is it even possible to prove a virgin birth? You can't, you just have to accept it on blind faith. Christianity says that Jesus died for the sins of the world. How can anyone prove this? This is another claim that you must accept on blind faith. Islam says Muhammed received the Quran from the angel Gabriel. Not even one witness to the story. How can anyone prove this? This is yet another claim you must accept on blind faith. According to Buddhism, Buddha saw the light. How can anyone prove this? According to Greek Mythology Zeus flew over the bay? How can anyone prove this? And if you keep going through every single religion out there they all make claims that cannot be proven. That's why a Jew would never waste his time with any other religion, because we know that all of them make claims that cannot be proven. Once you have a religion where none of it's claims can be proven true, don't waste one more second with that religion, throw that religion away. Because that is every religion on the planet except for Judaism. Judaism is the only religion that is verifiable historical fact. It is because of the Exodus of Egypt that we know the entire Torah is true. Had the Exodus not occurred we would have no way to know if the Torah is real. We know that everything that came before the Exodus, like Adam and Eve, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, are true because of the Exodus where we all walked out of Egypt and heard G-d speak to us, and we saw Moses as our leader, writing down everything G-d told him to write.

[@Louis.R]

@@jacobmaya526 You are arguing from a worldly desire to preserve your so-called 'special inheritance', and in order to do so, you may be casting out the truth. "Better that one man die, than a whole nation perish!" Set aside the Christian claims for a moment, and ask yourself whether rabbinical Judaism is even still valid, on its own terms (ie the promises and laws given to Abraham and Moses, and the prophets)? God is the final judge of each soul. Fear the Lord.

[@jacobmaya526]

@@Louis.R What truth did I cast out? Yes Rabbinical Judaism is still valid as it was for thousands of years. The Jewish position has been clear and consistent. Christianity is what came and changed everything around and redefined the idea of Messiah. Can you just answer me this: Is there any proof that Jesus was born of a virgin and is there any proof that he died for the sins of the world?

[@Louis.R]

@@jacobmaya526 No Temple? No priesthood? No sacrifices? Is there any proof that Moses' staff turned into a serpent, or that God parted the seas? "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." If you sincerely seek the truth, *including the truth of the Hebrew prophets and miracles which preceded Jesus,* I strongly recommend you read "I See Satan Fall Like Lightning" by Rene Girard, and the works of Augustine. Good luck, blood brother.

[@martinfeldman3907]

Great respect for two giants in their fields.

[@NarnianLady]

God bless that dear man, Rabbi Blumenthal, for engaging in the discussion in a civil manner. May the Lord open his heart.

[@Richfreerunner2]

I have to say. THIS is the type of long video sit-down that I love. Something not rushed but expanded on. You shine well in settings like this, Dr. Brown.

[@georgemetivier4145]

This is brilliant...I'm so grateful to have stumbled upon it...

[@thomasmichael5396]

I love Dr. Brown. I man of great patience and tolerance with people who have different beliefs

[@andrewc516_]

Thank you both 🙏🙏🙏 A conversation seeking to reduce misunderstanding is so much better than a debate.

[@markmetternich7629]

Amen!

[@BradJarrett-r2y]

This is great. Thank you for doing this, Dr. Brown. Very educational and beneficial. God bless.

[@spencermorris5873]

Wonderful & respectful conversation. God bless you both!!

[@helenagreenpine1496]

What a wonderful conversation and dialogue.....Pray that God blesses you both through this :)

[@HalLeath]

Lord, we ask You to transform this Rabbi. We love him deeply but he needs You to reveal Y’Shua to him. Open his heart and eyes. In the highest name of Jesus. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🙏🙏🙏

[@VictoriaEzpeletaLucas]

Amen!

[@VictoriaEzpeletaLucas]

@ALPONYCstop spamming!

[@Thenationstestify]

Great dialogues like these need to continue to happen in order to open the eyes of the people of Israel hallelujah!

[@alfapaul5593]

That’s if you (Christians) don’t slaughter another six millions as you did in the holocaust.

[@Why-p9n]

​​@@alfapaul5593With all due respect, slaughtering anyone goes against the teachings of Jesus. I use to claim Christianity myself before I truly knew the truth in Christ. I was far from being a real Christian. Hitler wasn't even close to being a Christian. He hated Jews and Jesus was Jewish so why would he come to Christ? Jesus Christ even said to love your enemies. I hope you read the New Testament and see what it actually teaches and not just follow what others say about our scriptures or about us. Blessings.

[@alfapaul5593]

If Hitler was a citizen of Saudi Arabia you will agreed that he was a Muslim. By please read Luke 19:27 us and give us what Jesus exactly saying there.

[@alfapaul5593]

@@Why-p9n If Hitler was a citizen of Saudi Arabia you will agreed that he was a Muslim. By the way please read Luke 19:27 us and give us what Jesus exactly saying there.

[@Why-p9n]

@@alfapaul5593 Please you have a misunderstanding of this verse in the Scriptures. This is why I would prefer if you take it up with God and read the whole New Testament for yourself not just one book,verse or chapter. But that verse is not a command but a parable and has to do with the return of Christ and the Judgement of God on the day of judgement. When Jesus returns He will destroy the wicked and reward the righteous. Jesus spoke often in parables. I suppose the difference would be its part of Islamic teaching since their book literally commands to go fight against disbelievers. If someone from the people of the book (Jews or Christians) don't wish to become a Muslim and runs into an Islamic controlled region or force they might get the option to pay the Jizya (a form of tax) else if they refuse they will unalive them. (Quran 9:5, 9:29, 98:6)

[@karendunn8055]

Thank you Rabbi! You make His word so clear and what you say reflects the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob!❤ Praise His word in the original text. Translations had and have an agenda. Blessings.

[@sarahcoenen9582]

This gives me so much hope. God has so much patience with us to reason things out.

[@VictoriaEzpeletaLucas]

Yes! This also brought me so much hope and understanding that Yeshua is near to returning! 🎉❤

[@feliperodriguez4187]

Much respect for the Rabbi. Great conversation, this helped me to better understand the Rabbis way of thinking and learn more from the word of God.

[@burningheartsministriesmis1488]

Knowledge of God… powerful testimony Brother

[@scottscott548]

When The rabbi said he threw many knockouts punches but you never fell down, I laughed so hard, good discussion I hope God opens the Jewish people’s eyes.

[@OrenTube70]

1. Rabbi Blumenthal is an extremely brilliant man. 2. He is also very open and honest, unlike Rabbi Zinger for example 3. His willingness to engage in dialogue is beautiful 4. May God open his eyes to see the Love of Messiah to him. 5. Just imagine what would happen when all the Jews preach the true Gospel!

[@Thedunguen9999]

Nah rabbi tovia is just more direct he’s on the front lines. This is why he lives rent free in y’all’s head.

[@porphyrio1]

​@@Thedunguen9999 9 Astonish yourselves and be astonished; blind yourselves and be blind! Be drunk, but not with wine; stagger, but not with strong drink! 10 For the Lord has poured out upon you a spirit of deep sleep, and has closed your eyes (the prophets), and covered your heads (the seers). 11 And the vision of all this has become to you like the words of a book that is sealed. When men give it to one who can read, saying, “Read this,” he says, “I cannot, for it is sealed.” 12 And when they give the book to one who cannot read, saying, “Read this,” he says, “I cannot read.” Is 29:9-12

[@Thedunguen9999]

@@porphyrio1 your point ? The Jews are not blinded 😭

[@alisterrebelo9013]

​@@Thedunguen9999 The Temple no longer exists. Some of your sins are not being atoned for for the last nearly 2000 years. And you think the Goyim are in even more darkness. What is Adonai waiting for in your opinion, without sending more prophets?

[@Thedunguen9999]

@@alisterrebelo9013 😭 Daniel has left the chat…..you clearly don’t read the Bible. G-d tells you how to atone for your sins when there is no temple.

[@rickyt3961]

Thank you Dr Brown! very enlightening 👍🏾

[@VictoriaEzpeletaLucas]

@ALPONYC🙅🏻‍♀️

[@ricardofolive]

May HaShem bless both friends

[@JoseSalloum]

I respect Rabbi Blumenthal, But He said that the visitors of Abraham were three angels. This is adding to the word of God. The visitors were God and two angels, NOT Three angels, There’s no angel; His name is Hashem. Period.

[@benny-yj7pq]

The scripture says YHWH appeared to Abraham in the form of 3 men. The Father spoke with Abraham and sent 2 messengers in form of Angels, before they appeared as 2 men. Gen 19:24 says one of the angels (messangers) is also YHWH.

[@alisterrebelo9013]

​@@benny-yj7pq Where are the words "YHWH appeared in the form of three men"? Genesis 18:1-3 KJV - 1 *And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre:* and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; 2 *And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him:* and when he saw [them], he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, 3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

[@talmid3231]

@@alisterrebelo9013in chapter 19 two of the men go to sodom and Gomorrah. The other one stays behind and then when he makes it rain down fire and brimstone over sodom and Gomorrah , then he is called יהוה . וַיהוָה, הִמְטִיר עַל-סְדֹם וְעַל-עֲמֹרָה--גָּפְרִית וָאֵשׁ: מֵאֵת יְהוָה, מִן-הַשָּׁמָיִם. Adonai is mentioned being in two places at the same time. On earth and in heaven. The literal translation reads: And the LORD caused to rain over sodom and over Gomorrah Brimstone and fire, from the LORD from heaven. So the man talking to Abraham is hashem in the flesh.

[@alisterrebelo9013]

@@talmid3231 Hashem appeared as one man not as 3 men which is what I was arguing with the other guy about.

[@talmid3231]

@@alisterrebelo9013 yes that is correct. Sorry miss read

[@AnthonySMistretta]

Love love love this! Thank You!!

[@LFTV]

For those who didn't tune in from the beginning, please understand that Rabbi Blumenthal was not here to debate me. He wanted to get responses to questions he has asked in writing over the years that I have not had the opportunity to respond to with the plan to post his responses to me in the future. As the dialogue unfolded, he ended up sharing more of his viewpoints, but again, this was NOT a debate, and his failure to answer me was by his design, since he wanted time to reflect and then answer accordingly. May God's love and truth prevail!

[@promagnuman]

I am an ex catholic and disagree with you on Jesus. My compliments to you for doing this and for the way you are treating this by giving links to the Rabbis word press website. You certainly are open minded and do not censor others with different points of view.

[@drewmcintyre9598]

Pray for the Rabbi to see the Truth, the Way, the Life, Salvation, Yeshua the Messiah!

[@wrlSivan16]

Have you met Zev Porat. He grew up as a orthodox jew that found Jesus.

[@PazPinhasRahamim9220]

*As the Tanach (the OT) tells us God forgave even without blood, be those gentiles (Ninve), Israelites (the exiles that returned from Babylon) and individuals as well (King Menaseh who repented in exile and was restored to his former kingship) - Hebrew's **9:22** and Christianity in whole are lies.* _______________________________________________ *Let me show you how it was always done, regardless if there is a temple or there isn't one, keep in mind that Ezekiel wrote while he was in exile when there was no temple but Isaiah wrote while the first temple was still very much in use, so you will clearly see that this is to be followed at any given time.* *Leviticus 26:* 38 You will become lost among the nations, and the land of your enemies will consume you. 39 And because of their iniquity, those of you who survive will rot away in the lands of your enemies; moreover, they will rot away because the iniquities of their fathers are still within them. 40 ***They will then confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers their betrayal that they dealt Me, and that they also treated Me as happenstance.*** 41 Then I too, will treat them as happenstance and bring them [back while] in the land of their enemies. If then, their clogged heart becomes humbled, then, [their sufferings] ***will gain appeasement for their iniquity,*** 42 and I will remember My covenant [with] Jacob, and also My covenant [with] Isaac, and also My covenant [with] Abraham I will remember. And I will remember the Land, 43 [For] the Land will be bereft of them, appeasing its sabbaticals when it had been desolate of them, and they will gain appeasement for their iniquity. This was all in retribution for their having despised My ordinances and in retribution for their having rejected My statutes. 44 *""But despite all this, while they are in the land of their enemies, I will not despise them nor will I reject them to annihilate them, thereby breaking My covenant that is with them, for I am the Lord their God.*** 45I will remember for them the covenant [made with] the ancestors, whom I took out from the land of Egypt before the eyes of the nations, to be a God to them. I am the Lord. *See what God truly said about His forgiveness.* *Isaiah 55:7-9* Let the wicked forsake their ways and the unrighteous their thoughts. *Let them turn to the Lord,* and he will have mercy on them, and to our God, for he will *freely pardon.* (!!!!) 8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord 9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. *(you were taught these two verses, but you were never taught they speak of God's forgiveness, I'm sure, those three verses go together!).* *Read the interpretation:* *For My thoughts are not your thoughts:* Mine and yours are not the same; therefore, I say to you, “The wicked shall give up his way,” and adopt My way… My laws are not like the laws of man [lit. flesh and blood]. *As for you, whoever confesses in judgment is found guilty, but, as for Me, whoever confesses and gives up his evil way, is granted clemency (Proverbs 28:13).* *Ezekiel 18:21-23* “But if a wicked person *turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right,* that person will surely live; they will not die. 22 *None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them*. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. 23 *Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?* *Also see Ezekiel 33* 11 Say to them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?’ ... 14 And if I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ *but they then turn away from their sin and do what is just and right- 15 if they give back what they took in pledge for a loan, return what they have stolen, follow the decrees that give life, and do no evil-that person will surely live; they will not die. 16 None of the sins that person has committed will be remembered against them. They have done what is just and right; they will surely live.* *God has no need for blood to forgive.* You really think God cannot forgive without shedding of blood?? How were the people of Ninveh saved?? No sacrifices, repentance is the key. _______________________________________________ If we fail, we repent to God, try to make amends if that is possible, and try to adhere to the law better. Doing or giving charity or any good deed will also prove to God of your ernest intentions (you'll find that part in Daniel). _______________________________________________ *Now tell me is the God of Israel the same as all other God's who's forgivness relies on blood of humans, like any other PAGAN GODS ??* *Is he 'unable' to forgive without blood ???* *Who is the more compassionate God? the God of Israel who FREELY FORGIVES (!) or the Christian god who demands human sacrefice to do so??* Who belittles God, Judiasm or Christianity?

[@PazPinhasRahamim9220]

*The 70 weeks prophecy has nothing to do with MBD.* *MBD will only come at the end of days after many days without a king, a temple and prophecy:* *Hosea 3:4-5:* 4 *For the Israelites will live many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or sacred stones, without ephod or household gods.* 5 *Afterward* the Israelites will return and seek the Lord their God *and David their king.* They will come trembling to the Lord and to his blessings *in the last days.*

[@alisterrebelo9013]

Dr. Brown I tip my hat to you. Excellent question at 1:31:08 The response that followed from Rabbi Blementhal is underwhelming. It indicates a shallowness of understanding of the depth of what sin is, how much of an offense it is to God. The sins of apostasy, Satan worship, murder for example are much more egregious than what Adam and Eve did, and yet that single act of disobedience broke human nature forever. So the idea that temporal restitution devoid of a Yom Kippur, Temple sacrifice somehow atones for the eternal offense against God, is severely lacking in recognition of what sin is and how atonement works.

[@deborahdecker4161]

May the blinders fall off the Jewish people eyes. I pray more will come to faith in Yeshua through this interaction.

[@zoharsutton8029]

Christianity is a lie - it is fake news - and we the Jews will never accept the New Testament and your fake Messiah

[@promagnuman]

What blinders? The jewish wrote the Torah, they invented the term Messiah, they specifically wrote what he would do, Jesus did none of the things the Torah tells us he would do. God gives them the torah and says to be a nation of priest. They teach the same message and christians teach another message. Who has blinders on?

[@theophilusermiyas5500]

@@promagnuman Isaiah 6:9-10

[@staal2691]

@@promagnumanso u are saying that the apostles and Paul were wrong. Most of them were Jews. Paul highly learned. they say Jesus is the Messiah. Just remember it was these Jews first and foremost that said he was the Messiah. Jews who believed in the Torah.

[@Thedunguen9999]

@@staal2691 they were wrong & liars especially Paul ….

[@burningheartsministriesmis1488]

❤blessings elder Brown

[@connieanderson7521]

I love this! I am Christian and have always desired to hear how, more clearly, the differences and similarities between the thought of Judaism and Christianity and the conclusions. I also love how you respect one another in your dialog.

[@IrenaChernatinski]

Great example of how to disagree with respect.

[@mijaujuu]

Lovely talk between them both. ❤

[@isaacdominguez474]

We need a part 2

[@crisseven1764]

Yeshua showed His authority over nature, matter, wind, sea, life and death and fulfilled hundreds of prophecies. He is the Word of God which is God.

[@amyhenningsgard8618]

Amen! Praise His Holy Name!!

[@crisseven1764]

@@amyhenningsgard8618 Amen 🙏🏼

[@1g1d1w]

The very first thing Hashem tells the Jewish people on Mt Sinai is "I am, the god who took you out of the land of egypt". Do you think he was just kidding and would wait 2000 years to straighten that verse out and he really meant Jesus took them out of egypt?

[@JustGab-me]

​@@1g1d1wYeshua it's Hashem. John chapter 8 verse 37 to 58. Yeshua is Adonai who meet and spoke with Abraham. Hashem took a human nature and lived among us as the Son of God.

[@crisseven1764]

@@1g1d1w Jesus is God. See Daniel 7, the Ancient of Days and Son of Man are God.

[@RascalTzadik]

Let Y’shuah be revealed through a fervent prayer to your heart by the Holy Spirit of God the God of mercy and compassion.

[@Why-p9n]

Very good discussion. Both sides were very civil and cordial. I think overall Dr. Brown answered the questions very well and would like to see another discussion like this in the future. I sincerely hope Mr. Blumenthal may come to the understanding of us Christians from the Biblical perspective and not from a superficial view of certain church traditions. More than all may he come to Christ Jesus who is none other than the Prince of Peace Himself. Blessings.

[@Real_LiamOBryan]

I love this style of video, not a debate, just two people having a discussion.

[@freedom4life312]

You should bring Rabbi Zev Porat in for an interview Dr. Brown!!! He does such an amazing job at witnessing to Jews through the Old Testament only and pointing them to Jesus!!!!😍

[@silverltc2729]

May Hashem continue to bless this honorable Rabbi.

[@theophilusodafi2]

BUT HE MUST ACCEPT YESHUA HAMASHIACH. ISAIAH 7:14

[@1g1d1w]

@@theophilusodafi2 Why? Read Is 7:14-15-16-17 you cannot cherry pick Jesus into the Torah. Would you go to a Synagogue to teach a Jewish convert about Jesus or to a christian church? Why would you go to a christian church to learn the Jewish Torah instead of a synagogue?

[@ThedayoftheLord]

@@1g1d1wbecause both believe in the same God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. For this reason you do not go to a mosque because they do not worship the same God

[@1g1d1w]

@@ThedayoftheLord Some christians do not believe jesus is god but most do and the Rabbi is talking about that and so was I. That is not the same god judaism teaches. Other than Jesus is also not the messiah both judaism and christianity teach about god. i started with christianity and swithced to judaism.

[@benny-yj7pq]

@@1g1d1w What Christian you was? You failed, make shipwreck. Judaism does not believe in Yeshua, you changed to a religion, that cannot and will not save you. Yeshua is the only Savior, the law will kill you, it is a filthy garment in the eyes of God, without Yeshua you do not come to the Father (Jn 14:6).

[@ChristianPhilosemite]

God bless you both, gentlemen. May God be glorified in the end. Thank you brother Dr. Brown for conducting this. All the best and every blessing. Shalom.

[@iguanapoolservice1461]

This is great!

[@beagleman123456789]

Rabbi Blumenthal is a righteous man ‘ ✡️🇮🇱

[@fborregoATBeyer]

This was great!!!🎉🎉🎉

[@OneFabFisher]

Dr. Brown - I am so very deeply moved and grateful for this exchange. What a special blessing this conversation is for us now and especially for the future. Baruch HaShem, this is love. This is the example of how Messianics and Jewish Rabbi's come together in honest dialog. Adonai bless Rabbi Blumenthal and Dr. Michael L. Brown.

[@INeedJesus4sure]

Great conversation!

[@arroyonpr]

I want to both thank and congratulate Dr. Brown and Rabbi Blumenthal for this outstanding video! I listened from beginning to end due to the importance and quality of this conversation. I have seriously studied both Christianity and Judaism for decades now. My experience has been that like a dysfunctional father and son, both religions do not truly understand one another beyond superficial assumptions. Like a disappointed father and son with different viewpoints, they communicate poorly and normally misunderstand each other to the point of even alienation. This might be the first time that I have heard a conversation where there is an intelligent, cordial, respectful effort for representatives of these religions to actually hear and understand one another. I look forward to more conversations like this one. A panel format might even be more helpful. Dr. Brown, You asked for feedback, so I will give you one specific concern. Your explanation of how you worship the One G-d of Israel while identifying Yeshua as also worthy of our worship due to his uniqueness, simply doesn't make sense to me. My long experience as a Christian was that we prayed to and worshipped both Yeshua and his Holy Spirit along with the Father. Yes, I thought I was still somehow worshipping the One G-d, but I finally had to stop, realizing that I was being inconsistent with the word of G-d as a whole and even with the testimony of Yeshua in the gospels and several parts of the New Testament. Could G-d demand the honoring of Messiah? Sure. Did G-d expect that we WORSHIP any Messiah AS G-d? In my humble opinion, that remains a severe contradiction just too difficult to resolve for Christianity. I believe that you wouldn't commit idolatry intentionally, but your explanation to the Rabbi of why you should worship Yeshua, especially being a Jew, remains very unconvincing for me. My deepest respects to both of you, fine gentlemen. I hope the public conversation between both of you continues for our learning. Shalom, shalom.

[@LP-MeAndMyShadow]

They both are right. The Jews are college and the Christians are elementary. 1x1=1 no matter which grade a person is in. But don't expect oranges from apple trees. But eventually all our stomachs will be full.

[@LP-MeAndMyShadow]

It makes sense that the Jews have the truth and are specifically chosen by God to be high priests. The Christians, on the other hand are coming from a pagan place. They are crossing over via the bridge of Jesus, in an effort to go towards the Father. The Jews are slowly embracing the Christians and guiding them towards the one Father whilst Christians slowly let transform Jesus into the father. Time will allow the Christians their transformation as more knowledge is revealed. The Jews must be patient and merciful. It will be a trying time. Remember Jew, you are college students teaching elementary minds. Be happy that so many Christians are curious and have a willingness to learn.❤ Eventually, we will all be Sikhs. 😂

[@beagleman123456789]

I studied with Rabbi Blumenthal ‘ 🇮🇱✡️❤️

[@AbigailsJoyfulLife]

Totally with you although we are out numbered by the fools here

[@janetweiner324]

@@AbigailsJoyfulLifewhy insult people? I don't see that at all with these two men!

[@AbigailsJoyfulLife]

@@janetweiner324 not my monkey to prove anything to you about these two men

[@kodama7132]

blumenthal made a really beautiful point about the importance of communal prayer. 1:37:30

[@kymdickman8910]

Yes, I agree! I’ve been worshipping God through Jesus all my life and yet have never understood a positive reason for communal prayer before. Thankyou, Rabbi

[@2003mikec]

Dr Michael Brown - The Lord has used you to be such an incredible blessing to all of us! The Rabbi is not in your studio by accident - Yeshua loves him too!

[@ChrisNeal-v3w]

That's not some profound comment. They literally set up a meeting. Of course the Rabbi isn't there by accident...DUH!!

[@2003mikec]

@@ChrisNeal-v3w Hi Chris, You are right --it was an arranged meeting. But I believe the Jewish Messiah is revealing himself to the Rabbi, and he didn't expect anything of the sort. The Lord bless you.

[@cheryllangeveldt7040]

Appreciate the listening skills of both Dr B and Rabbi B , although there is real contention ....there's also (I think) a genuine desire to understand and be , in turn, understood ❤

[@markmetternich7629]

YES!

[@MarkusGhambari]

My understanding of Yom Kippur: On Yom Kippur, the bull sacrificed for the High Priest’s sins highlights that even though the High Priest is called Mashiach, he is not the final Mashiach because he, too, needs atonement. The ram offered as a burnt offering connects to the story of Abraham and Isaac, representing a temporary atonement and pointing forward to the true Mashiach who will ultimately take Isaac’s place. The two goats, one sacrificed and one sent away as the scapegoat, symbolize the future Mashiach's role. The scapegoat bears sins but escapes judgment, while the sacrificed goat represents the ultimate fulfillment of atonement.

[@kymdickman8910]

I see more than that: the sacrificed goat shows our sins are forgiven! We are justified by His death. The scapegoat shows that we need sanctification… we need to confess our sins to the our Saviour, Who daily bears our burdens [Psalm 68:1], and be sanctified by His Presence abiding in us, as we live out the rest of our days on this Earth.

[@b.bytyci869]

Dr.Brown ✨👍✨

[@treasurevessel]

May the rabbi's eyes be open to the truth that all the promises of God find their yes and amen in Yeshua the Messiah.

[@JerryArafatso-zy3gz]

Tovia Singer KZbin channel says it best

[@susannakazaryan1927]

I have great respect to Rabbi Blumenthal, but the only thing I want to ask, what kind of sin can be bigger then rejecting the Gods son, or to rejecting the Messiah that He sent. . .? Like are we trying to correct Hashem’s plans, like He doesn’t know what He’s going to do. . ? I can’t think any bigger sin, then rejecting Hashem Himself, not counting His plan property, what is that, but putting ourselves in higher position then Hashem.

[@daveyguitarman9287]

May God bless both men today , in Jesus name .. Amen

[@jimmyortiz1979]

Dios bendiga la conversación que tienen en este momento, y sea de beneficio para todos. Dios sea exaltado

[@pete6300]

The Christian Bible is pretty clear, even "Christian" Jews are supposed to remain Jewish in tradition and culture. The world needs them in the end days.

[@phloriaernas2149]

Thank you both Rabbi Blumenthal and our relative in Jesus Dr. Michael Brown for providing different perspectives we need to hear about both sides' faith.

[@martinfeldman3907]

The word זבח clearly has to do with sacrifices as does the word מזבח (altar or place of sacrifices). To say that the word means "fellowship with G-d" as Rabbi Blumenthat did at the 1:04:03 point of the video, without including the sacrifices to achieve that fellowship, seems quite a stretch. The fellowship and right-standing is achieved through the sacrifices.

[@4TruthsSake]

I love this…

[@erc9468]

This conversation is really amazing. This is the kind of Bible debate that I, as a Gentile, crave. I think that this kind of conversation demonstrates to me that the Tanakh is true, that the God of Israel is true, that as Jesus said, that salvation comes from the Jews.

[@tebogoolifant2138]

Ask Rabbi wheres thier other tribes from the 12tribes and habe they ever been in slavery or taken away by a way of Ship scattered all over the world as slaves then if they he can answer that i will believe they are the real Jews not Jewish please can u do that for m

[@tebogoolifant2138]

Ask Rabbi wheres thier other tribes from the 12tribes and habe they ever been in slavery or taken away by a way of Ship scattered all over the world as slaves then if they he can answer that i will believe they are the real Jews not Jewish please can u do that for me

[@erc9468]

@@tebogoolifant2138 Do you know what is a “real Jew”? I’m not really interested in that question. So you’ll have to ask him yourself.

[@tebogoolifant2138]

@@erc9468 real jew are who the bible speaks of the word jew is derived from judah the so called jewish people white people were established in 1948 the caucasians and took the Land that does not belong to them even christ warn us about them revelation 2:9 and 3:9

[@EHMD11111]

Are you aware that Biblical discussions/debates like this happen all the time amongst Gentiles? It seems that you're under the impression that this only or mostly happens amongst Jews when, in reality, it happens far more amongst Gentile Christians.

[@Jamie-cf8tn]

I agree. The revaluation of Jesus as the Messiah and son of God, the lamb of God makes the most sense when I read the Old Testament and New Testament.

[@alisterrebelo9013]

What saddens me the most is that the destruction of the Second Temple, prophecised by Daniel instead of causing Rabbinic Judaism to question their presuppositions about their understanding of the Messiah, instead causes them to reinterpret God's word to suit their presuppositions. What even more sad is that they will not engage with the historicity of the events of the NT, let alone the person of Jesus described in the Gospels. How can one declare someone a false Messiah without even considering the historical evidence for the Ressurection?

[@LawOfNonContradiction]

rabbinic judaism grew up AS A RESULT of the temple destruction. It was suited for a "people of the book"

[@TR13400]

It's taboo to even speak of Jesus in hardcore Jewish families and religious groups. They are so afraid of him and see accepting him as one of the worst things a person can do. It truly is sad.

[@alisterrebelo9013]

@@TR13400 I was once debating a Jewish man online on Psalm 110, about the identity of Kind David's two Lords. We politely went back and forth examining all the possibilities and he went completely silent when it became clear that David is identifying the unknown person as "Adonai" (only used for YHWH in the Old Testament) and the other Lord is clearly YHWH the Father. My parting message to the man was to pray and ask God to confirm if I am right or not. He never replied back. Why are people who say they follow God afraid to ask God to show them the truth?

[@faithfulservantofchrist9876]

Unfortunately our Bible tells us why the rabbi likes so many other Jews won't believe. Because God has hardened their already hardened heart in their rebellion. They have scales on their eyes and it would take a supernatural work of the Holy Spirit to get the eyes open. Unfortunately no. The Bible tells us 2/3 will be wiped out in Zechariah. They will not get their stuff together until the righteous remnant after the tribulation.

[@yisroelblumenthal7278]

Rabbi Blumenthal is my father

[@pepepena1937]

Have you read Zechariah 11 prophecy on rejection of The True Shepherd?

[@yosefzee7605]

So how do you both have the same name ?

[@yosefzee7605]

Moishe?

[@KathleenRamm]

The truth was going to be a stumbling stone for the Jewish people. Tradition and law has become there basis for belief. The discussion is a wonderful witness and a respectful dialog.

[@cosmiccruxbot3841]

Jesus spoke accurately about the contemperanous Jewish religious leadership who inundated and burdened the common man with endless sets of dos and don'ts. Evidently this holds true even today. Mordern day Rabbis are so enthralled in legalities of the law that they ignore the essence of it that bring us nearer to God. It was truly exhausting listening to the Rabbi, however Dr. Brown made an excellent case for the Messiah Jesus. I'm glad that Our Lord gave us an easier way.... himself. *Matthew 11:28-30* 28 _“....Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light....”_

[@pauluspatrus8458]

The conversation around 2:30 about love of Jesus being idolatry is why Christology is important.

[@thegeorges2384]

I’m only in 5 minutes & I’m already on board with the Rabbi. I really appreciate him saying, let’s not debate, but let’s look at the passages together. I love & bless Israel & the Jewish people. The Jewish people need a blood sacrifice for atonement of their sins. May their eyes be opened to see Yeshua as their Jewish messiah & The Lamb’s (Yeshua) blood 🩸 sacrifice for their redemption.🕎✝️💙🇮🇱

[@alfapaul5593]

Me too.

[@kymdickman8910]

Nice point you made, that Jesus, as our passover lamb has redeemed us from the tyranny of sin, the world and the devil! Awesome God!!

[@Fellowrser]

"one community is wrong the one that has cut off Gods redemptive work to the nations is the wrong one, and the one that seems to continue through the messiah is the right one"

[@johnkumah3095]

Rabbi Blumenthal have this one thing clear, that the Rabbis traditions are more important than what Hebrew Scriptures says. If you need proof Judaism is a man made religion, here it is.

[@JSClark5779]

Can you explain to me how you know Genesis is supposed to be in the Bible, using only Hebrew text?

[@johnkumah3095]

@@JSClark5779 Because Genesis is in the Bible and is originally in Hebrew texts.

[@User-h3n7x]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@johnkumah3095I’m reading through the comments and I found this extremely funny. I don’t mean to be offensive or anything but you missed the point of his question. You only get the Hebrew texts and what are in them via the rabbis. Who included what in the Hebrew texts?

[@johnkumah3095]

@User-h3n7x You once again deepen my point. The Rabbis are the traditions through which you are made to understand Hebrew scriptures.

[@Farmhouselivingroom]

I Love Jesus!

[@alfapaul5593]

Why trying to be different ? Nearly everyone here called him Yeshua.

[@whitemailprivilege2830]

Jesus is great 👍 He cuts my lawn every other week!

[@kellymariejaramillo]

1:18:09 wow, this is where the rabbi unknowingly is making such a strong case for Catholicism ❤

[@rodneyrichwine5806]

I haven't heard the whole conversation, but it seems a lot of what he says they're wanting would occur through the Holy Spirit. But great conversation.

[@Manuel-x9f1e]

I find it interesting that the rabbi often kept dodging certain questions and also went ahead answers for valid questions. I pray that the Jewish people would learn a lot from this conversation and we do the research. They often go by traditions and some of their forefathers could’ve been wrong or actually they were wrong when you go by with the Bible says and with the 10 says Jesus truly is the Messiah. They just don’t like anything that refers to them. This is definitely a sign of their hearts being Harden

[@StraitGateApologetics]

I pray Messiah opens there eyes and ears so they may see and hear that the one who Gives life is Hashem and His name is Yeshua. Glory to He who was dead and lives forever!!

[@Thedunguen9999]

😂what

[@beagleman123456789]

Actually, Yeshua is a name for Joshua ‘

[@tyowongndeso]

1:16:00 i dont understand, the rabbi believe that god wrote to get His point clear, but then, here, when it says clearly the atonement is in the blood, suddenly it can mean something else too as if it's not that clear.

[@silverltc2729]

Yeshua Sar HaPanim is praised every year at Yom Kippur between the blowing of the Shofar

[@Louis.R]

The Jews can and do argue around that - if they don't suppress it entirely!