Asking a sociopath all my burning questions |

Diagnosed sociopath Patric Gagne joined me for a very honest conversation about living as a sociopath - covering everything from love and empathy to whether she would kill someone if she could get away with it.
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[@SandySass]

She is warm and charming for a reason: its calculated. Everything with sociopaths is. Believe me, if she was to drop the mask and tell you what she really thinks your jaw would be on the floor. She openly admits that she had her husband proofread her book and he would come to her in shock at something he read saying "you cant put this in there!". And she didnt.

[@user-vz4gg6cs4l]

actually, it's the other way around. She wanted to put certain stuff in the book, but her husband told her not to do it. He was the one who insisted on proofreading and who wanted certain stuff removed. 1) Why would you lie about what she said? 2) If she lied saying what I mentioned above, why would she do it? She's definitly capable of discerning herself what she can put in the book and what she can't, so why ask her husband? It kinda seems like you're trying to demonize her

[@SandySass]

@user-vz4gg6cs4l Him reading it was for proof reading purposes. If she didn't care she would've left those parts in, but she didn't. She removed them. So again: proofreading.

[@Armistead_MacSkye]

She's not charming at all.

[@SandySass]

@@Armistead_MacSkye That's subjective. She is to me. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Armistead_MacSkye]

@@SandySass Why did you feel the need to say it again? Weird...

[@maaripoim9049]

Sure it is a spectrum, however more should be talked about that many of these people have a line of victims of their emotional abuse and manipulation behind them who they have relied on for their daily dopamine. It's short sighted to talk about only causing physical pain, this type of crime for sure is a lesser percent among the whole spectrum but the emotional abuse is probably a major one, it's just that they choose their victims and do not treat everyone the same.

[@shelleyscott4332]

You're spot on! Honestly the mental abuse or even just the waiting for the next episode is so unbelievably draining.

[@SandySass]

Exactly.

[@ChocolateAutizzy]

Im a diagnosed sociopath and I'd love to come on the podcast ❤

[@iangoldie6396]

@ChocolateAutizzy I saw your interview on Special Books by Special Kids channel

[@HappyMomma412]

@@iangoldie6396Same! It’s nice to see you here!

[@lovelyenglishnature3277]

Alexithymia

[@ktryushi4744]

You’re not one at all. You’re in autistic spectrum. I can read my own breed, I am diagnosed one with ASPD, schizoid. Even the women on interview she isn’t one, she is more of an attention seeking person. Sociopaths aren’t attention seeking individuals at all. You just gave yourself away. You have alexithymia, I can read you like a book. Stop labeling yourself, you aren’t one. I can read my own nature who truly has ASPD.

[@NecronomnomnomZ-xz4qs]

(first five minutes) physiological means biological and learned behaviours means self-deception (which is normally considered an occult thing to understand it's part of why drugs are illegal and they teach it in the military and police desert storm par example) search (youtube) mrrhexx psuedo dragons and faerie dragons (it's humanist psychology) it means psychopaths hang with the guys sociopaths chill with the women loving/possible/honest existentialism is accessible to a few, poorly represented by the uninspired and as a subjective thing it's value is only what you make of it negotiable thing (i'm drunk) means it's "mercantile" (!)

[@alexandrakboyd]

I don’t feel guilty about not empathizing with sociopaths because I know that they don’t empathize with me 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@sashmo8]

But they can’t.. and it isn’t their choice.

[@Youbutnotyou-tube]

Unless you are directly or indirectly benifiting them they literally ignore your existence

[@user-dh1yq5cz9v]

Very well done interview, Emma! Would love more in this vein - interviewing people who've written memoirs and getting to hear their view on what their story should teach others.

[@elinamakela8435]

This was very interesting, and it was surprising to hear that up to 5 % people have these tendencies. It explains a lot.

[@bobirving6052]

Sometimes you can judge/assess a situation better without getting emotional. Like if your car slips on the road. You need to stay in control. It won’t help to scream and cry and flail around.

[@Armistead_MacSkye]

Sociopaths are sharks. What do sharks do?

[@annharbaugh2991]

Thank you for this interview. I'm on my library's waiting list for this book and now I'm even more motivated to read it.

[@SharonReads-ob7mk]

I can’t wait to read it!! Thank you for interviewing the author! Such great Q&A!

[@nikan4now]

Very candid. Well done.

[@K1OIK]

What happened to the woman she was stalking?

[@pythagorean_theorem14]

Such an interesting video and book. We do have many copies in our store (Waterstones in Covent Garden) and I’m so keen to read it. 😊

[@rausaen]

Interesting interview. I have a segment in my up coming novel that explores concepts like these. Would be nice to incorporate some of this into the story :D

[@spexi513]

“Me too” 😂 💚📚🪱💚

[@fleurmeneve5780]

This was so interesting. Thank you ❤

[@sophie6067]

Can't wait to read this!

[@FunkyMunky-w2m]

I am an empath, I do not stop empathizing with cluster B, I don't think that is an accurate statement..but I would say there is at least some diminishment of my empathy, or at least I know I'm not going to invest much in a relationship with them which wouod involve caring, because I know how futile it is to care about them ultimately in most cases.. even though it does help, as long as I don't allow them to manipulate me and keep strong boundaries, which I've gotten really good at..because cluster B tendencies are to use empaths' empathy to endlessly manipulate them for control. But fo say we don't empathizd or care about other human beings pretty much defies the definition of what being an empath is so..

[@gigabloke]

Patric Gagne is a highly intelligent woman who worked incredibly hard to understand herself, and to require herself to participate in society in the most positive way possible. I am reading her book which has taught me much about myself (not a sociopath, so-called 'normal'). She is honest and confessed about herself and what she has done -- more so than 99.9% of people. I have great respect for her.

[@Poppy-yx8js]

So a clinician or mental health professional would write down in their notes “ secondary psychopathy”, since there doesn’t seem to be a “sociopath” in the DSM and you’re saying the diagnostic criteria for aspd is not what is used ??

[@Poppy-yx8js]

Someone is circulating a smear campaign against me to certain platforms suggesting I’m a sociopath. And that I’m guilty of crimes- I’m looking to prosecute this person. I’m certainly not diagnosed aspd - do not have this personality. And I’m the victim of a hacktivist and stalker who has been harassing me at my home for 7 years.

[@harrymartin684]

Sounds like something a schizophrenic would say tbh

[@aidenbloedow]

What are you talking about-

[@Armistead_MacSkye]

Patric is making lots of money off her "illness." Also, she's not as smart as she thinks she is.

[@user-ff1uz4sy5g]

Interesting 🧐

[@AliceVFame]

Wouldn't the urge to hurt animals be more due to the sociopath's lack of remorse? Often violence is quite normalized to a sociopathic child. Interesting interview nonetheless.

[@reapsmccreep8847]

Wanting to feel something is the root desire. Remorse would for a normal person would be the metaphorical safety rail that stops a normal person to hurt the animal.

[@guitarlessonsnow3431]

@@reapsmccreep8847what about empathy?

[@reapsmccreep8847]

@@guitarlessonsnow3431 well the short answer is again the desire to feel something gets the ball rolling to do something bad empathy is indeed different than remorse that it doesn’t happen after the act but it’s the same situation that the emotion is a guard rail to stop bad act.

[@AliceVFame]

So what's the feeling the person is seeking for?

[@reapsmccreep8847]

@@AliceVFame Well in Patrick’s book she describes it along the lines of being only able to go on so long while not being stimulated. Like eventually you’re gonna break from the prolonged feeling of apathy. So she chose to do “minor” bad things” like technically stealing peoples car n going to stranger’s funerals are examples on top of my head. Anyway to finally answer your question LITERALLY ANYTHING. I totally recommend you read or listen the book. Though in my personal opinion it kinda falls off a lil towards the end.

[@GayleLynch-ns3oe]

i despise that these people get air time.

[@zubaerchaudhari8267]

Hello there hey there