Asking Tories their most right wing opinion

Asking Conservative party members attending conference in Birmingham for their most Conservative belief.
Reporter: Ed Campbell
Camera: George King
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[@ridanann]

The stability heritage and community Guy blatantly just dog whistle I'm a racist because that's exactly what those words mean in conservative times on the wise he would be a left wing where stability heritage and community basically mean actually building the community rather than keeping foreigners out of it. I think you've got to be some kind of cold bastard to talk to these people without beating the s*** out of them as in literally beating them so hard they s*** themselves and then you film it and you put that on KZbin and yes I just called you a cold-hearted bastard for not doing that because you see I'm engaging in the Tory method of left wing where I just say the opposite of what is true and both people go along with the mythology. It's cruel to feed starving people and it's cruel to not actually come to think of it I'm kind of stepping on Joe Lycett toes at the moment I'll just leave it there

[@michaelrch]

I love how Tories think that everything they believe is just common sense that everyone believes.

[@xMrjamjam]

Narcissistic persobality disorder os very common with right wingers. There was a study done and it proved that the more right wing views someone had the less emotional intelligence they have

[@fuckbankers]

Privilege

[@emmanuelgoldspleen2905]

​@@xMrjamjam I guarantee that you will find narcissists on both sides. It's not unique to either side. I personally know narcissists on the left and on the right. A lack of emotional intelligence is also not unique to the right. There are plenty of leftists who could not read the room, to save themselves. In my view, in this current environment, it's narcissistic for anyone to expect the state to subsidise so much of their existence. Because it implies that everyone else owes them something, that they're entitled to something that isn't theirs. Ideally, if they can, everyone must contribute something. It's not a free-for-all, and no society that functioned like that ever survived. By the same token, you could say that it's narcissistic not to care about the wellbeing of your fellow man, while only thinking of benefitting yourself. Which is certainly a fair point as well. See how it works both ways? It's all relative, and is best measured against what is fair and reasonable, according to what shared social values underpin a particular society. Everywhere is different. Japan is different to Saudi Arabia is different to Brazil is different northwestern Europe.

[@aituk]

Most people are like that.

[@ktool4855]

@@xMrjamjam There was another study that showed the further left wing people are more likely they are to suffer with a severe mental illness.

[@derekhart6755]

“Pride in our nation” so many of these people don’t understand the different between patriotism and nationalism

[@danw5760]

What do you consider the difference to be

[@TheModicaLiszt]

Nationalism is a more aggressive and xenophobic patriotism

[@alphonser272]

@@danw5760 I think patriotism is more associated with supporting your country morally whereas nationalism is blind obedience in any way - "my country right or wrong."

[@octavianpopescu4776]

@@alphonser272 Nationalism isn't that... nationalism is an ideology which is usually associated with another ideology, so you can have versions which are left-wing nationalism (e.g. SNP in Scotland) or right-wing nationalism. But at its core it's an ideology that values self-determination, independence and sovereignty, the preservation of one's heritage and culture. Calling it "my country right or wrong" is just... wrong.

[@kanedNunable]

@@danw5760 patriotism is being honest enough to see the problems & flaws. nationalists want you to be the enemy if you dare to speak out.

[@GeoffreyHellington]

Who knew, the only way to make Tories doubt the cons party is to ask them why they support it!

[@ianoliver3130]

Brilliant

[@Anthony-xd1lj]

the Tories support britain we all know the left wing hates britain that is why they call us european when no one ever got a vote to be in the EU itself only the EEC. We had the left wing government for over 30 years and look at the way the UK has turned out

[@TheSuperPsychoKiller]

If you love Britain, you wouldn’t whine about paying high taxes to support public services helping your neighbors and country. Conservatives who want low taxes do not love Britain.

[@123eee]

And a certain generation (the one who thinks it fought in WWII) benefited from the huge public spending of that era, yet is incapable to concede that they didn't "have it good because they worked hard", whilst their neighbours across the road work three jobs and sleep in a council flat where the roof is caving in

[@trustmeimaphysiologist]

A Tory has never found a ladder to climb that they can't pull up after themselves.

[@scottbuggy5634]

Well said absolutely best economies in europe are nordic countries and they look after their own through high taxation and have a wealth tax and their economies are booming and the poor have good living standards,brilliant pensions, great public services. These tories do not love Britain they love their self interests.

[@ME4503]

I wouldn't mind paying high taxes if I thought they were being spent correctly and not being stuffed into the top pocket of Tory buddies for dodgy back handed deals. Does that make me right wing?

[@scottbuggy5634]

@@ME4503 well majority of the taxes we pay go on welfare and pensions,NHS,education,pay off national debt. The tories miss spending can be fixed by not voting tory and vote for a more ethical party

[@kirbles]

'Pride in our nation' guy really wanted to say 'empire', didn't he?

[@nicholasgodleman7520]

Nothing wrong with that, look how many comments globally are in English.

[@peterprice6035]

Most right wing viewpoint? 'Pride in our nation'? I'd have much more pride in our nation if it was more left wing ...

[@sigmaputin6888]

The left sucks

[@Sun-ei4gi]

Would you really though.. I doubt it.

[@tyranneous]

@@Sun-ei4gi He probably would. I definitely would - because as far as I'm concerned, how you treat other people less fortunate than yourself is ultimately a bigger indicator of your value than how much money you have. See: how people treat people serving them in restaurants as a personal litmus test.

[@Sun-ei4gi]

Yeah you don't have pride in our country and I highly doubt it. Pride is more than a political party.

[@Godlike-87]

@@Sun-ei4gi I have very little pride in this Country. I think it has potential but it has rarely ever lived up to it.

[@peterrabbit291]

Fascinated by the concept of natural Christianity.

[@zf1615]

Deep rooted beliefs that can't be changed by reality, I believe clinically it's called a "delusion" - but we can't be delusional and do things like look after the people who are going through hell due to the rising cost of living, noo we have to make tough choices and face reality, grow the economy.. money, growth, facts, economy, pride, belief, my family and me, a good fiscal fisting from boris, he's charming isn't he.. keir starmer is boring.. etc etc

[@thehoneyeffect]

lol

[@benwilson6145]

Same as the Deep South

[@Camallunt]

Means he was raised in the Cult and knows nothing else.

[@g_c6668]

They claim they're Christian but Jesus Christ himself wouldn't be able to immigrate to Britain lol

[@rw4025]

The most frustrating thing is these Conservatives who justify their allegiance with reasons such as 'community'. You can be left wing and support that. In fact, I'd argue that it's impossible to call yourself left wing if you don't believe in community. It's only the "libertarian" anti-tax, small state Tories who are opposed to a more communal ideology - because they're doing well and don't want to have to share some of their wealth. As for 'pride in our nation', I'd be a lot more proud of our country if this party hadn't taken it down such an abhorrent route over the past 12 years.

[@dondoodat]

The Tories didn't believe in community when they closed mines and steelworks without first putting other employment in place.

[@barfjavelin]

Tories love "community" so long as its right kind of white people(not slavic), not filled with gays or 'wokes' and everyone loves the lord and saviour Jesus Christ. That's what they mean by community. It's just code-worded now so they can hide it

[@binmcbin1890]

when the right say community they mean conformity. when the left say community they mean diversity. that's the difference

[@aituk]

The problem is the left right dichotomy doesn't explain this well. You have to consider up and down on the political spectrum aswell (conservative or liberal). There are many liberal people in the tory party and many conservative people who support labour. Left and right is about economics and power, up and down are about morality and values.

[@mididoctors]

Community means white people to these folk

[@MontyCantsin5]

4:25: ‘’Emotions don’t get you anywhere.’’ Yes, much better to block out any form of emotion and empathy and just be a cold, calculating psychopath. 😐

[@allip4226]

Anger is an emotion and Conservatives seem to have plenty of that!

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

Interesting how you use the Star Wars term “droid”, when they’re some of the most emotional robots in sci-fi 😂

[@MontyCantsin5]

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated: I've changed it to psychopath. Probably a more accurate description; particularly for those in position of power within the Conservative Party.

[@Geoffrey454]

Thing is that thinking also just ruins the economy. It's actually not the sensible, pragmatic approach it's just that it makes that particular person better off.

[@laurachiar6086]

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[@McKluskie]

its weird isnt it that those who want a minimalistic state always seem to have plenty of money...hmm.

[@Sun-ei4gi]

Do you want a bigger state?

[@col.hertford9855]

That they don’t want to share

[@col.hertford9855]

@@Sun-ei4gi well the state has shrunk massively via the back door, so insourcing public services again would be a start

[@gordonstrong5232]

@@Sun-ei4gi Yes

[@Sun-ei4gi]

@@col.hertford9855 yeah good shout 👌

[@chiip90]

The real reasons (in order of appearance) 1) To seem tough and remind people less of Mr. Bean 2) Dislikes immigrants, also can't get laid 3) Proto-fascist 4) Daddy's party 5) Daddy's party 6) Daddy's party 7) Daddy's party 8) Establishment fetish 9) Fear of Catholics 10) Dinner party Tory 11) Dislikes taxes because he thinks he's in the 1% (actual percentile; high 20s)

[@dbfzato-1327]

I'm glad someone else got vergin from no2 🤣 sounded like he was gonna cry lol

[@c0222]

"Yes we've made mistakes in the past" nice to see Tories consider multiple genocides 'mistakes'

[@eKh79]

Well, if you want to make an omelette you clearly have to break some eggs. Water down the river you know?

[@c0222]

@@eKh79 difference is I don't consider people eggs, and don't think the improvement of my life should in any way cause a regression of others'.

[@matthewv4170]

We haven't committed multiple genocides

[@matthewv4170]

@@c0222 causing discontent and pitting tribes against each other.....absolutely. state endorsed genocide ...No

[@c0222]

@@matthewv4170 Ireland, India, South Africa, just off the top of my head

[@djc2526]

They don't think they are right wing...

[@mattrobert5]

Seeing their cogs turn to not come across as awful is fascinating. Most of them failed.

[@standZ4]

They're only partially invested, unlike the people who are actually affected by their intolerant views.

[@judithmatthews8460]

Right wing only . Do you believe in shackling refugees and dragging them on a plane to Rwanda. ? Do you believe in refusing free school meals to hungry children.

[@esme8944]

My eyebrows always lift to my hair line when I hear tory voters answer 🙄

[@reekiereekie7264]

I didn't realise having kids was right wing

[@RealDaveHelm]

Obv. Boris J has them up & down the country! 👍

[@collydub1987]

It isn't. Don't let people make you think it is.

[@IamRobotMonkey]

Oh curse these bloody emotions. If only I was dead inside I could have succeeded in life.

[@flowerpower7288]

🤣

[@TomNook.]

7:41 he loves the landscape and arts, so naturally he's a proud Tory.... How deluded are these people 🤣🤣🤣

[@Ross-nd6xi]

He's also northern Irish so the idea if defending a country for "laws" when the entire edifice of Northern Ireland built on systemic discrimination of catholics is so hypocritical

[@moistman6930]

I’d put money on him hating modernism, too.

[@DorifutoRabbit]

You can't take back a death sentence after the fact when the wrong person is sentenced, that should be enough to ban it everywhere.

[@matthewv4170]

The burden of proof would be quite high. If an innocent person is convicted and killed then .....ah well

[@steviesteakbakes9643]

@@matthewv4170 Is that how you would respond if it was you, your friends or your family? Ah well. What is it about the death penalty that appeals to you?

[@unconventionalideas5683]

I know this opinion will be unpopular here, but there is a flip side. The flip side though is that it can be a preventive measure. Dylan Roof, who damaged his brain chemistry with drug use, became a racist and shot up a Church Congregation trying to start a race war is one good example; another one is the Danish deviant inventor who had slicing fetishes and killed a woman, and then later escaped prison for awhile. In both cases it was quite clear who did what, and in both cases it was perhaps a good idea not to allow them to potentially escape from prison and kill more people. Of course there are plenty of reasons to dislike it, and I understand, but then I am not saying it should be constant or used in remotely grey area type cases. I just think it might be (not definitely, but might be) worth having in cases like that.

[@steviesteakbakes9643]

@@unconventionalideas5683 Yet the rate of murders in states with the death sentence is higher than those without. Maybe not as big a deterrent as initially suggested? Does killing Dylan Roof help, as tragic as it was?

[@chrism6315]

In theory I absolutely support the death penalty, there are crimes so heinous you don't deserve to keep breathing. However, the fact we can get it wrong means it is wrong because its final and cannot correct it.

[@mattread2790]

The idea of a traditional family unit as being a Conservative opinion says it all. Homophobia is rife in right-wing parties across Europe and it should be stamped out.

[@Sun-ei4gi]

Can't believe what you're saying. The idea of a traditional family is somehow something that needs stamping out of Europe. Go travel the world and then compare it to the western world with your viewpoint regarding homophobia. Because pride happens the most in Europe compared to Arab nations or elsewhere 🤦🏼‍♂️ can you even go pride in the middle east?

[@chance258]

Just the other day gay people were abused at a Conservative meet up

[@whynot217]

Believing in family isn’t necessarily homophobic. However, Roman Catholics probably are homophobic

[@JwayT]

Islam's is virulent homophobic, any comment?

[@anonymousunknown533]

Being gay is against sound human nature though, that's why a lot of gays are disgusted with themselves until later when they get desensitised to their abhorrent life style choice

[@Roman500]

These people are crazy, death penalty? What?

[@kal9001]

People like you are what drives political division. Calling people crazy for no apparent reason other than they are 'tory'

[@Godlike-87]

@@Dan_1348 you are a psychopath.

[@gordonstrong5232]

@@Dan_1348 Whatever the crime, we should never allow the state to have the authority to kill its citizens.

[@MrMyers758]

@@Dan_1348 Death penalty is not banned because of its proportionality, it is banned due to it being irreversible in the event that an innocent person is sentenced. It was literally triggered off the back of multiple cases of wrongful sentencing and executions, due to bad policing. You can argue all you want that because of DNA etc that it is basically impossible to not catch the killer, but that all depends on the police being truthful about how they obtained it and the details of their investigations, which still to this day is steeped in corruption. That's not even taking into consideration the legitimately widespread things such as kudos and promotions for investigators who get confessions without evidence, and the lower standard for evidence when a confession is present. These issues aren't going to get better without police reforms, and even then you can never be 100% certain. Then we can have the argument about what the point of sentencing is to the criminal. Is it meant to be punishment or for rehabilitation? Well as punishment it isn't really universal is it? Many killers kill themselves afterwards to avoid prison time, or attempt suicide when caught, so it would seem that in many cases a death sentence is less of a punishment. If our aim is to rehabilitate then the death sentence isn't really a discussion is it. The only time the death sentence would be a thing in a world where the justice system concentrated on rehabilitation was if someone is un-rehabilitatable, in which case no crime would receive that sentence unless a prosecutor is able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the criminal will offend again. That further leads the system open to definite re-offenders avoiding the death sentence if they have a good enough defence to say they will not reoffend. There are just too many complications and issues with the death penalty for it to be used, regardless of how just you think it is in the instances where the accused is actually guilty. We could get into an argument about the morality of the state having the power to kill citizens who they have incarcerated, but we really don't need to. Purely from a pragmatic view and the view of "we don't want innocent people to be killed" we can just leave it there.

[@frankiedonegan6150]

@@MrMyers758That was a very long winded way to agree with above comment.

[@mcooley88]

Old mate who reckons the British Empire's attrocities were "minor mistakes" was a laugh eh.

[@thehoneyeffect]

That part lol, the div

[@attackpatterndelta8949]

Would have loved for the interviewer to have pressed him on that. “Do you think people in Ireland, India, Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand, Zimbabwe etc would agree with you?”

[@roberthayes9842]

The saddest thing about people voting tory is simply people distances their selves from the working class, they see their selves as better, its an illusion there not

[@c0222]

How can anyone be Roman Catholic and support conservatism? Jesus was the definition of charity for those less fortunate than yourself, and looking after one another. "Love thy neighbour" second most important commandment in Jesus' eyes behind keeping the sabbath.

[@user-ib9ky2jo9h]

Jesus would’ve been called a woke leftist communist by these knuckledraggers

[@themills23]

Apparently it's 'in the scriptures'.

[@abdurahmanmohamed3378]

Great point!

[@adameast3695]

Because they can use their religion to justify their beliefs they hold more strongly than charity, like homophobia

[@MrMyers758]

Because Roman Catholicism is not in line with Jesus's values. You think that hoarded wealth, support of dictators, and protection of abusers is in line with the values laid out by Jesus in the New Testament?

[@mattstevenson5849]

The Conservatives are a successful party, and have been around for years...human greed knows no bounds, and never has.

[@attackpatterndelta8949]

They know how to get elected and mobilise their supporter base. I’m not sure whether that’s the same as being successful.

[@lukeyraptor6738]

Does this country currently look anywhere close to being stable?

[@nickbarton3191]

"pre-revolutionary" Peter Hitchens

[@Jamezontoast]

This video really cracks open the deep hatred many Tories hold within their hearts. Being so casually supportive of the death penalty is projecting your draconian, sinister beliefs & you are unfit to lead by default

[@jujutrini8412]

Not really. If one's child was murdered in a horrendous way most people support the death penalty for that particular person who did that particular crime.

[@GabagoolForeverAndAlways]

Im a staunch left winger, but I wish the was a death penalty for pedophiles, murderers and rapists

[@matthewv4170]

I completely agree with the death penalty. Take a life, lose yours

[@Jamezontoast]

@@Dan_1348 What a strawman argument. You are looking at this as a black-and-white scenario and fixating on the aspect of death. Rehabilitation over incarceration should always be the preference when the former is viable.

[@Jamezontoast]

@@jujutrini8412 Your emotional reaction to a heinous crime should not be what decides the balance of justice. Everyone agrees that this is heinous, but justice should be achieved through impartiality & with an optimistic approach. Being draconian creates more murderers

[@easytoassemble54321]

People have been virtually silent on capital punishment in the UK for decades. But in the last 2-3 years I've seen more mentions of it than I ever have in my life previously. Worrying times. It's taken a mere 50 years or so for society to forget why we even abolished it.

[@elftax]

Ian Hislop put an end to the capital punishment argument when he demolished the Pritler on Question Time, its a joyous video to watch.

[@theomegajuice8660]

It's only been in the last decade or so that public opinion polling has seen a majority of British people wanting a total ban on the death penalty. Society in general is more anti-state-executions than ever... it's the current crop of Tories that are the issues because they've never cared less about what British people actually want their government to do

[@elftax]

@DoubtingThomas you cannot bring it back without exiting key European institutions like the EU Court and Council of Europe.

[@LoveProWrestling]

@DoubtingThomas We have seen how tory referendum goes... "Do you think perhaps in some circumstances it might be desirable to use capital punishment as a deterrent to serious crime?" Ten minutes later the gas chambers start being built on the site of former community centres.

[@jamespaul6315]

@@elftax i believe in capital punishment 100%. A lot of times pedos only get true justice from fellow inmates

[@daveys]

“Stability, heritage and community”. Not three things that I’d have expected to see in a Conservative word cloud.

[@tomtheeagle1]

How can you claim to be a "natural Christian" and not be a socialist?

[@Geoffrey454]

I was brought up in quite a strict Christian religious group and when I first learned what communism is, I thought this aligns most with my value system as a Christian.

[@raph_csg]

can you be socially conservative (e.g. anti SS marriage) and a socialist at the same time?

[@tomtheeagle1]

@@raph_csg As socialism is basically an economic system with little to say about sex and gender the answer is unfortunately probably yes. One would be a lonely and unpopular socialist in the west though.

[@queeniegreengrass3513]

@@tomtheeagle1 I suspect lgbt people are lgbt first in white countries, whereas elsewhere class and heritage probably come first politicially.

[@tomtheeagle1]

@@queeniegreengrass3513 We are all who we are first, surely?

[@cobbler40]

We assume our culture has moved on to a civilized society and we find the Tories want us to go backwards.

[@petefl1818]

Sorry Jim I don't agree that the UK has moved on to a civilized society. When I was a child and growing up, I don't remember any beggars or homeless on the streets of the UK like there are today. The Tories have taken the UK backwards, far more than people realise.

[@DJWESG1]

@@petefl1818 that's just you mate. Literally, you sre the only person who experienced thst.

[@petefl1818]

@@DJWESG1 I know what I wrote about but as you were obviously not born then you wouldn't, would you. So that means you're literally passing that comment in ignorance.

[@miracletortoise6224]

@@DJWESG1 He heccan isn't. I live in South London, and I saw beggars/rough sleepers maybe once a month 20 years ago. They're a daily occurrence, now, which makes sense because the data supports the fact that homelessness has shot up massively in that time.

[@kierondupree4410]

@@DJWESG1 I'm in Essex, I've seen the same, in both my hometown and London.

[@DJWESG1]

Family.. National achievement.. Hard work/aspiration/opportunity... None of which are the property of tory or Conservative ideology. How do they get away with causing 99% of the problems in the world.?

[@Stanleyhamer]

It doesn’t add up does it? conservatives govern roughly half of the time yet you think they cause 99% of the problems in the world. If the blame game wasn’t such an exercise in futility I would’ve asked you to recalculate your percentage before we start the game.

[@josephbrennan370]

"99% of the problems in the world"? What

[@timetraveler7]

Money, and also you don't need to address your problems when you can just scapegoat trans people and immigrants.

[@beckiebeckiebeck]

The guy who couldn’t control his eyeballs said a hell of a lot of words for “I’m a homophobe”.

[@hermitpermit2553]

Doesn't tolerate physical abnormality/ disability..but calls out someone elses opinions on sexuality as being intolerant o.0 bruh

[@hmmm3210]

Wtf?

[@sy2see]

I agree

[@EzioAuditoreDaFirenze99]

So you can mock someone's physical appearance because they disagree with you? Would you be so condemning of a Muslim for holding the same views?

[@ciarantolan4586]

@@EzioAuditoreDaFirenze99 I would

[@elftax]

Would have loved to know the pro-family guys opinion on Boris Johnson

[@lewisvincent3290]

Oh god these really are lizard people 🤢

[@mariebarr1745]

Yup 🤣🤣🤣

[@timetraveler7]

Hey, as a lizard person I am greatly disgusted by this comparison.

[@lawrencebolt3540]

Whenever you hear right wingers talking about what they're proud of, it's never poets like shakespeare. It's always some nefarious statement linked to genocide and slavery.

[@fancyhat6505]

the thing is people like you try and link everything to some genocide or slavery of the past to try and discredit everything. you wouldn't be happy until the British were back living in mud huts and eating grass, because like it or not, it's those events of the past that allow you to sit and complain on your phone today

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

How could they be proud of Shakespeare, he never even attempted to invade Zimbabwe!

[@FKA1303]

Couldn't think of much worse than going for a pint with any of them

[@rowdogspeaks5900]

So much gibberish. I disagree with the lady who said emotions don’t get you anywhere because emotions largely got us Brexit.

[@richardbradley1532]

Bringing up scriptures are a reason for any policy must immediately count as right wing.

[@psychedelicpegasus7587]

Stability and community? It's hard to form and take part in a community when you have to work 40+ hours a week to just about make ends meet. I'd like to know how many of the people interviewed come from generational wealth or have attended fee paying schools. Just like the man extolling the virtues of British history, I suppose it's alright to inherit wealth, benefit from nepotism and be proud of the resulting accomplishments. Just don't pretend that you got to where you are all alone when also sitting on the rising side of the oppression see-saw.

[@TheModicaLiszt]

As soon as you polarise society into oppressors and the oppressed, people desiring some moral high ground will put themselves as the oppressed, as of course nobody wants to be an “evil oppressor…”

[@psychedelicpegasus7587]

@@TheModicaLiszt It's quite simple. If you do not want to be perceived as an evil oppressor, then don't engage in activities that serve to oppress people. Take responsibility for your actions and work towards positive change. The problem is not that the Conservative Party are trying to avoid being viewed as oppressors. They are too concerned with their own self interest and that of their financial backers. They have so much contempt for the majority of people of the UK that they really don't care how they are perceived.

[@TheModicaLiszt]

@@psychedelicpegasus7587 In a country where opportunity is so affluent that so many people of every land come to seek refuge there, I wouldn’t call myself oppressed, and strive for positivity in my own life alone. I am thankful that I could be in school until 18 and go to university essentially for free, and my Dad from Ireland left school at 14 to work on a farm. Even though I’m from a poor background, I am given much more chance for work and for a positive life standard than most other countries, and so my Dad and I wouldn’t ourselves “oppressed”.

[@psychedelicpegasus7587]

@@TheModicaLiszt My comment wasn't intended to be just about your experiences, but thanks for sharing. I am also Irish, but I moved to Scotland as an adult. My father also started work around the ages of around 12-14, I went through full time education and university (in Ireland). There's common ground between us. We have had these opportunities and I also don't consider myself to be oppressed (Yet! We'll see what winter brings), but I don't turn a blind eye to the oppression and suffering of others simply because I'm doing relatively well. That's the point I was making in my initial comment. Financially I might not be oppressed, but as a person who identifies as being queer the comments made in the video are oppressive. People in the shops I visit, the nurses in my local medical practice, families (especially single parent families) and elderly people at my local library or community hubs are all being oppressed by the government's decisions in Westminster. People with disabilities or specific caring needs, such as my dad who sustained a neurological injury, are really struggling and the reality is many will not survive into the new year. There might be an abundance of opportunity but how many people does someone have to step over on the way to financial success?

[@anthonyc4812]

National borders " are in the scriptures" 🤔🤔

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

"Emotions never get you anywhere." Because people like Martin Luther King Jr never made any impact on history did they.

[@clovenbullet]

Death penalty and smaller government. can these people hear themselves

[@redstatesaint]

Well, they might privatize the death penalty.

[@kierondupree4410]

@@redstatesaint turn it into a televised sport

[@timetraveler7]

@@kierondupree4410 yes, and allow private companies to show adds while it's happening to turn a profit, and don't do boring executions, make it interesting, make it like the super bowl, take the family out to see the drug dealer get torn apart from the inside out, watch the murderer be battered and boiled alive in oil for a tasty snack for the rest of the executions, watch as people get skinned alive for merch, fun for the whole family.

[@SketchBadger]

8:23 "The Christian idea of marriage is between a man and a black ma - is between a man and a woman" 🤣

[@europainvicta3907]

Lots of gammon, young and old.

[@Melissa.Garrett]

Of course they believe in a small state. They’re not the ones who need help, they’re the ones with money and a comfortable lifestyle. As for the woman who says we all have to support ourselves (without having the decency to acknowledge that some can’t), why does she then claim that a strong economy leads to more jobs and more tax income to support the welfare state? You just as good as said there shouldn’t *be* a welfare state! Cognitive dissonance at its best.

[@herbivorosaurus]

Yup just feels over facts.

[@SaucyBoyFilms]

They all seem quite embarrassed of their own opinions - I think they know, deep down, that their worldview is abhorrent, but just keep it so deep down that they’ll never acknowledge it

[@fuckbankers]

'Emotions don't get you anywhere '.

[@vectispete9415]

They want small state with fewer taxes but all the benefits that state intervention provides

[@eatthisvr6]

scriptures have NO place in any government!!

[@fuckbankers]

The Christian is really scary.

[@mariebarr1745]

Thank the gods that I will be going to Valhalla then

[@m1lklizard934]

I like that you ask these questions and let them answer truthfully. I am glad to listen to their reasoning on the chance they could change my beliefs but all they do is reassure me of my position.

[@Mikebloke]

This was actually quite nice to hear. Often the debate is not the goal but how to get there.

[@zf1615]

Yeah I think the media generally focuses our attention in on such small elements of the whole picture of what these politicians are actually trying to do.. I think intent is far more important than specific plans - given competence - at this point. Great work Joe's doing here I think

[@pu11y]

Agreed

[@nawaz345]

Funny never heard Jesus talk about national borders…

[@TequilaToothpick]

He did tell people to pay taxes, said rich people won't go to heaven and he healed the sick for free, but they ignore those points.

[@philbeattie3978]

Traditional marriage= A Ferret and a Chicken. A working Chicken mind you.

[@problemsolverthinktank859]

Wow I'm starting to think.... What is a conservative?... Lol because none of these people know what they are talking about 🤣

[@powderandpaint14]

I think it is people who believe that their beliefs are the most important and they want to have a good life. Whereas left wing people tend to want everyone to have a good life and to be able to live as thy choose!

[@Heselbine]

I vote the Christian guy as most scary

[@jujutrini8412]

The border guy seems more scary to me. He thinks the border issue is justified by scripture!

[@Sun-ei4gi]

Oh yeah really scary 😂

[@paid14]

Agreed!

[@falconhoof6]

The Christian fundamentalists are usually the creepiest. You only have to look at the US at the moment to see that in the mainstream. Religious fanatics are by design authoritarian, and that leads to all sorts of vile ideology.

[@carlpierce2486]

He would definitely kill you if the voices in his head told him to.

[@robertbell9935]

Who is the woman at 3:35? I've seen her before. The woman at 8:28 who says she's "not rich". I bet she is by most people's understanding. They're always going on about 'aspiration' and giving people the chance to succeed etc. But their obsession with 'small stateism' and public spending cuts actually makes it harder for people to do that.

[@donaldduck7268]

What a bloody good video. So many emotions arose from this. I’ve got a bit of wine here so that may have something to do with it. However just great.

[@weswheel4834]

I wanted to know why the last chap started disagreeing with Paul Foot (although it was probably just that he got some money and wanted to keep more of it, but I was hoping for something a bit more exciting from him).

[@whssy]

Woman in the pink jacket going on about "the emotion button" when the only reason the Tories won recent elections is because of the emotion button. Hilarious. Chubby bloke with the beard is a natural Ukipper - not a natural Tory. Bloke in the light blue jacket is a Labour voter who hasn't outed himself even to himself yet.

[@SpiceIntolerance]

Lol yeah, I keep seeing that guy in the blue jacket and it seems like the type to vote Tory because his family dose. He seems too nice imo…

[@grrr.9998]

"I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative. I believe that to be so obvious and undeniable a fact that I hardly think any honourable gentleman will question it." John Stuart Mill

[@jmitch6896]

can't believe how weird they all are... odd bunch

[@lukeyraptor6738]

4:54 reminds me of the “how can I be of assistance” call centre guy from IT Crowd

[@nelty0987654321]

Why do I feel like they haven't thought critically about their positions and beliefs before?... Especially when they give generic answers non answers like community? Pride in our nation?

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

Cuz they shouldn't say "white male christian power!" openly. Gotta talk in code or buzzwords.

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

@DoubtingThomas it's a shame so many thoughtful people get everything entirely wrong.

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

@DoubtingThomas I believe the only overlap might be, if we had socialism, we would need to conserve it, but otherwise conservatism is stagnation (preserving the status quo)for the poor majority.

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

@DoubtingThomas it's a nebulous term cuz of people's ignorance, I suggest searching the etymology of conservative/ism.

[@ShaunieDale]

“Hey Siri, show me some examples why this country is completely broken at the moment”. “Here is a short clip of Tories airing their views , take a look.”

[@jamesfletcher2140]

why is family a reason to be conservative

[@pkjones5263]

8:23 whay doesn't he just buy a tee-shirt that reads "Empire was really phucking great...OK!!

[@patrickbyrne5070]

“Woke-ism” … this mr history man is not very smart.

[@sharonharris9782]

Right Wing governments in every country ( ex: United States, my gov), twist the meaning of the word to fit their narrative

[@0xCAFEF00D]

The minarchist describing himself as centrist is just hilarious.

[@VanlifewithAlan]

I think that was a fascinating series of interviews. I am still trying to think of my own most right wing opinon and I can't.

[@octavianpopescu4776]

I was thinking of the same thing. I guess for me it is: I don't believe in equality. I think some people are superior. Not because of their skin colour or what genitals they have or any other physical features, but because they are more moral, more honest, harder working and more competent. They're simply better.

[@attackpatterndelta8949]

I don’t get the fuss around gender pronouns. That’s probably my most right wing opinion.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

Such a simple question yet surprisingly thought-provoking. I feel like a lot of these answers are not even uniquely conservative things. Love of your country, taking pride in your achievements, wanting to conserve the things that are good and do away with the things that are bad, importance of being raised in a good family, making sure everyone has equal opportunities, I think these are universal human qualities on both the left and the right.

[@stevemitchell1454]

The best time for aspiration was in the 30 years after WW2. Social democracy gave working people the opportunity to enter professions they were barred from. Kids from working class backgrounds went to university for the first time. The Tories are taking all those benefits away.

[@carlpierce2486]

I support the death penalty but only for serious crimes like poaching from my estate.

[@ikorraks]

Fascinating that the man I thought spoke most openly and concisely turns out to be a disciple of Paul Foot! Mind-blowing that the years could turn you from a strong socialist to an actual paying member of the Tories. We need more people like him around, whether I believe in his views now or not, he's clearly well-researched in both sides of the political spectrum and that definitely helps to speak more plainly about your moral compass.

[@botchacide]

Freaked out how much the chap in the glasses sounds like Slavoj Žižek.. its unnerving 🤣

[@leetroughton5670]

It's alway "I believe"... which allows them to ignore the evidence of their eyes and ears....

[@petermanuel5043]

It's funny when the idea of "the family" becomes a party political issue? Families and family structures have been around for at least a couple of years. I think, 'how' is 'every' family (no matter it's makeup) helped? should be discussed by everyone. Also, since when is "having borders" a party political issue? Who has been in control of the borders for 12 years? Crazy stuff.

[@assses-3216]

I find it so interesting that one of them is talking about Labour 'keeping people down' when poverty rates fell under Labour year on year, they gave a lot of people a way of funding further education which enabled many of those from low income households to stay in education and aspire to further themselves. All we get from the Tories is rhetoric and food banks.

[@tyranneous]

The answer for this lot should be very simple - they should be answering something to the effect of freedom of markets. I.e., what it means to be economically right wing. But the weird bit is that they don't even seem to know that.

[@tyranneous]

Oh! Tell a lie, there's ONE of them that mentioned free markets. ONE. And it's telling that it was one of the older ones. The young ones are all just seem to be young fascists who want power and think they're better than other people.

[@Sun-ei4gi]

Weird.. That wasn't the question asked..

[@tyranneous]

@@Sun-ei4gi Eh? The question was the most right wing view. Do you even know what right wing means?

[@Sun-ei4gi]

@@tyranneous it's you that doesn't know. Emotionally attached to the point you cannot listen to other viewpoints. The comment says economically right wing. And I didn't hear that as a question put forward on the interview.

[@tyranneous]

@@Sun-ei4gi Nope, that's what it means. If you want to conflated authoritarianism and/or libertarianism as well, that's on you - but either of them could still be considered "right wing". I think you're perhaps missing the intelligence and experience along with the emotion.

[@PaulBadman]

These guys don't really know what they want,It just seems the read headlines and don't get the for story.

[@Sun-ei4gi]

Did you manage to make that judgement on your own..

[@PaulBadman]

I don't understand

[@John-cq8gr]

That fella wants a minimalistic state, but likely would be opposed to scrapping the triple lock.

[@andrewcockburn7484]

Being proud of Britain isn't right wing. Left and right are just proud of different things.

[@rodmarker2071]

12 yrs of mismanagement , low growth and party of division - I blame the tabloids. I's woake I's is an' feckin atheist

[@garrybarry4286]

ohhh my most right wing position....hmmm let me think, kill the poor? At least that toff at the end was half honest

[@pip1723]

I have aspirations of putting the heating on .

[@99PTR99]

7:17 How do you preserve and conserve something while furthering it at the same time? Surely by furthering it you're forcing it to change. Inherent paradox, anyone?

[@matthewhook3375]

You can make changes that strengthen the thing you want to conserve. You can also make changes that reduce or eliminate the thing you want to conserve. The idea of conservatism as an intellectual philosphy is that you take the time to fully consider whether a set of proposed changes will preserve and enhance something or reduce and diminish it. Personally I think the philosophy has some merits. I also think the conservative political party is failing miserably to apply it.

[@99PTR99]

@@matthewhook3375 well said, I'll take that on board. Especially the part about the Conservatives being unable to deliver conservatism

[@FelonyBellend]

I'm a socialist but have pride in our nation. The nation is the people and I believe the large majority people on these islands have achieved and are capable of true humanity and greatness. It's just unfortunate that very few of them are Tories.

[@fuckbankers]

These dinosaurs are delusional

[@tommair5783]

A tory talking about the state being too big whilst a couple of police officers, who he presumably loves, walk past him is actually pretty funny

[@leenorris4933]

The amount of self delusion displayed here is incredible…

[@dmckenna]

why do so many of these guys look like they are cosplaying anime villains?

[@michaelc3051]

What is the world coming to when you can't find a Tory who says bring back the birch and national service? 😆😆

[@04mdsimps]

Someone explain what “a smaller state” means?

[@ryanslack2666]

Longhaired dude in the blue suit was the best out of them. Open to talk and a good laugh.

[@wikdwizz]

this Italian guy needs to sort out his eyes.

[@unicron2109]

Yeah, that showed him

[@chicklechives]

Wonder if the marriage guy would oppose the marriage of anyone post menopause or post vasectomy. Seems to be defined by the need to be able to have children

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

Friggin breeders 😜

[@brianorakpohit]

04:23 'Emotions don't get you anywhere' Sure