Asking Tories to define wokeism

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PoliticsJOE

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Жыл бұрын

The spectre of wokeism loomed large over Conservative party conference. So we asked attendees to define it.
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@PoliticsJOE
@PoliticsJOE Жыл бұрын
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@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 Жыл бұрын
The amount of hypocrisy is bizarre. Do they not understand that nationhood is just as invented as 'wokeism'?
@Grim_Beard
@Grim_Beard Жыл бұрын
The guy who said that he's a Conservative because he's proud of being British, and also said that he hates identity politics was just
@tcb3901
@tcb3901 Жыл бұрын
It’s almost like “woke” is just a straw man for anyone you don’t like or want to listen to.
@davidcronan4072
@davidcronan4072 Жыл бұрын
Just like using the term "do-gooder" as an insult. In truth it should be a compliment to somebody who is "doing good".
@joshuapowers4623
@joshuapowers4623 Жыл бұрын
It is now. It had a very specific definition when it was first coined. It started in US black communities & referred to becoming aware of all the different ways our current systems are still affected by racism & slavery.
@neillynch_ecocidologist
@neillynch_ecocidologist Жыл бұрын
@@davidcronan4072 I'd disagree. Do-gooder is an ironic term, isn't it? To refer to someone who seems to think they're doing good but half the time isn't. I fell out without a woman I knew on FB once because she was supporting a charity that was telling people to go bring them underweight hedgehogs. That is hardly the way to save hedgehogs (and then the 'charity' would try chug a little donation out of you, typically). In fact, there's a chance it'd lead to numbers falling further. People described as woke are pissed by the fact that there's a class war going on. If you're not woke, you're either a tory or should check your brain activity at hospital.
@holdtightadele8017
@holdtightadele8017 Жыл бұрын
Some people use it as that… but that’s not what it means.
@DJWESG1
@DJWESG1 Жыл бұрын
@@davidcronan4072 but when your agenda is to destroy social services paid by the tax payer which gives power and strength to the state, it's a torys main priority to reduce ot to 5hit.
@SicAltusIsVulnero
@SicAltusIsVulnero Жыл бұрын
“Can you give me an example” “I think it’s self evident” So, no then, you can’t give an example.
@T.E.S.S.
@T.E.S.S. Жыл бұрын
I liked the guy who said it doesn't mean anything, but he doesn't agree with it anyway. What a genius.
@riccagiaco
@riccagiaco Жыл бұрын
No brain no pain!
@TheRealDeal130
@TheRealDeal130 Жыл бұрын
@@riccagiaco 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👏
@DD-jm5ug
@DD-jm5ug Жыл бұрын
😄
@lionelrowe617
@lionelrowe617 Жыл бұрын
it's always funny watching tories get SO CLOSE to understanding some simple truth but then veer off wildly into some batshit conclusion
@Nexus804
@Nexus804 Жыл бұрын
It's funny cause that's how I feel about it. It's a word that's been co opted to dismiss people's views without debate. Would be far better off if it was removed from the vernacular.
@frmcf
@frmcf Жыл бұрын
Nice of them to let people of different heights into the party. Height can be such a barrier.
@BoojayDeeth
@BoojayDeeth Жыл бұрын
Depends on the size of the doorways.
@steevmsteevm
@steevmsteevm Жыл бұрын
it can be a real issue when you set the bar so low
@dondoodat
@dondoodat Жыл бұрын
Height barriers are everywhere these days, even in carparks !
@neillynch_ecocidologist
@neillynch_ecocidologist Жыл бұрын
@@dondoodat In my experience, most people struggling to enter / exit car parks because of height barriers are actually in their vehicles. So should they count?
@alexlevie4056
@alexlevie4056 Жыл бұрын
I’m a dwarf.
@yetidodger6650
@yetidodger6650 Жыл бұрын
You should ask tories to define empathy .
@masquarra
@masquarra Жыл бұрын
Hear hear!
@shadykid5939
@shadykid5939 Жыл бұрын
probably charity
@alexwilkinson4896
@alexwilkinson4896 Жыл бұрын
"Empathy? Never heard of her"
@awalkwithtilly6512
@awalkwithtilly6512 Жыл бұрын
It may prove testing to find empathy for their definitions.
@emmental2020
@emmental2020 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely yes.
@zakwood3094
@zakwood3094 Жыл бұрын
the fact that it is such a rally cry and no one can give a straight answer says it all
@joshuapowers4623
@joshuapowers4623 Жыл бұрын
That's what conservatives do though & have done for decades.
@holdtightadele8017
@holdtightadele8017 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuapowers4623 What a sweeping and misinformed comment.
@droptheleash1992
@droptheleash1992 Жыл бұрын
@@holdtightadele8017 is it though?
@zakwood3094
@zakwood3094 Жыл бұрын
@@holdtightadele8017 wow someone is feeling high and mighty😂
@ashthetic_art
@ashthetic_art Жыл бұрын
The original definition is "Being aware of social inequalities e.g. bigotry", so conservatives saying they're "anti woke" is them saying they don't want to be aware of social inequalities. They're saying the quiet part loud without even realizing it.
@BenBrindley
@BenBrindley Жыл бұрын
Remember when the term woke first came around it was used to compliment someone for understanding issues?
@ince55ant
@ince55ant Жыл бұрын
its also been used for decades (like ssince the 70s) in the african american community to mean someone overly concerned with the problematic beliefs/actions of others. which is fine, but not what these torys really mean.
@BenBrindley
@BenBrindley Жыл бұрын
@@ince55ant Very interesting.
@chrism6315
@chrism6315 Жыл бұрын
That is the point, it's to twist a positive Into a negative.
@sss-ol3dl
@sss-ol3dl Жыл бұрын
@@ince55ant Why don't you think thats what tories mean? All through the video they are describing people they think are overly concerned with other people being problematic.
@BenBrindley
@BenBrindley Жыл бұрын
@@chrism6315 Eh, slang used like this is bound to change meaning overtime. I dont think collectively people planned to do it lol.
@frmcf
@frmcf Жыл бұрын
They seem like a terribly emotional and sensitive bunch. They get all upset and flustered just having to think too hard about things like the values that they hold.
@andimcgaw
@andimcgaw Жыл бұрын
Not a single person knows what wokeism means
@andyforshaw8489
@andyforshaw8489 Жыл бұрын
It means the left
@Gazzaroo
@Gazzaroo Жыл бұрын
Woke means Woke! I bet you didn’t know what Brexit meant either! Jeez Louise
@hypatia4754
@hypatia4754 Жыл бұрын
@@andyforshaw8489 It does to fascists.
@zakwood3094
@zakwood3094 Жыл бұрын
@@andyforshaw8489 how democratic of you
@roddymcniven8734
@roddymcniven8734 Жыл бұрын
@@hypatia4754 said the left
@nickybrownsnout
@nickybrownsnout Жыл бұрын
Just a bunch of clowns trying to regurgitate some nonsense that they've been tricked into thinking they should care about
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
Woke means anything they don't like
@Gazzaroo
@Gazzaroo Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@andyforshaw8489
@andyforshaw8489 Жыл бұрын
For once Alex I actually agree with you. Personally I can't stand wokes
@oops3266
@oops3266 Жыл бұрын
@@andyforshaw8489 could you define who or what a woke is?
@killbotone6210
@killbotone6210 Жыл бұрын
Woke? That's so woke.
@smith5796
@smith5796 Жыл бұрын
Smell the Gammon.
@Jackcarr87
@Jackcarr87 Жыл бұрын
I'm an accountant and died inside when the oldie said "the balance sheet is in credit". The balance sheet is called the balance sheet because debits and credits balance. If net assets are in a credit position the company is functionally bankrupt. So maybe he got it right after all?
@davidbennett2820
@davidbennett2820 Жыл бұрын
It iS being awake to justice. Aware of both the good and bad of a subject in order to improve for the future. Wealthy people oppose it because it means recognising they've been benefitting from exploiting crime
@ringo1888
@ringo1888 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is precisely this. But the right has weaponised it to be used in a derogatory way, to call out those that are trying to be awake to justice and call attention to inequalities facing society. The word 'woke' is stigmatised and is used in a derogatory manner to discredit progressive ideas like solving social inequalities.
@TheRealDeal130
@TheRealDeal130 Жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@TheAegisClaw
@TheAegisClaw Жыл бұрын
Injustice I'd say, rather than justice.
@ltmund
@ltmund Жыл бұрын
The rich are the most woke though...
@TheAegisClaw
@TheAegisClaw Жыл бұрын
@@ltmund that's just not true. The rich are generally conservative, because they want, above all else, low taxes.
@matthewbloom276
@matthewbloom276 Жыл бұрын
God watching the nervous mental gymnastics is uncomfortable 😂
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of that LBC clip with James O'brien where the guy has no defintion for it
@mendozamoore366
@mendozamoore366 Жыл бұрын
That was so good.
@davidwilson9264
@davidwilson9264 Жыл бұрын
In explaining "woke" didn't the guy at 4:50 say that it was intolerance toward people who had different views to you which, unless I'm mistaken, is the way that those viewed as "woke" are treated by people just like him?
@MultiBigbird01
@MultiBigbird01 Жыл бұрын
People who are woke are tolerant towards diversity. The opposite of woke is intolerant. That guy hasn't got a clue what intolerance is.
@JakeLDS
@JakeLDS Жыл бұрын
@@MultiBigbird01 intolerence of intolerence
@pjay3028
@pjay3028 Жыл бұрын
Yes David, your analysis of the situation is spot on and is the key point to recognise about the entire anti woke sentiment. Unfortunately they're all so wrapped up in their own self importance they will never grasp this irony.
@NH_HN
@NH_HN Жыл бұрын
There’s a difference between tolerance and acceptance. For example: I’m accepting of people from many different social, religious and ethnic backgrounds,whereas I only tolerate tories.
@Nilguiri
@Nilguiri Жыл бұрын
I do not tolerate Tory scum. They are the enemy and will be the first up against the wall, come the revolution.
@Nilguiri
@Nilguiri Жыл бұрын
@Culture Vulture Papi Travels I agree, when somebody says they "tolerate" atheists, socialists, or black people, or whatever, I think, ⸘Are you not fucking merciful‽
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs Жыл бұрын
The pure fakery of Jordan Peterson is permeating the Tories.
@deleted4577
@deleted4577 Жыл бұрын
Rent free
@smith5796
@smith5796 Жыл бұрын
Clean your Room.
@Martin-bx1et
@Martin-bx1et Жыл бұрын
"This is the worst interview ever"🤭 "I'm enjoying it" 😂
@nearlythere9443
@nearlythere9443 Жыл бұрын
He is a perfect example of someone who uses the expression, something like, "All this woke nonsense", or "Left wing wokeism" etc, but does not have a clue what 'Woke' is. Its just a trendy expression used down the golf club.
@peterzapp2091
@peterzapp2091 Жыл бұрын
It makes them feel uncomfortable. It points at inconvenient facts their family’s, heroes’ or nation’s history and in their “conservative”, multi-phobic mindset.
@raquetdude
@raquetdude Жыл бұрын
“Mixed toilets” has that person ever been on an airplane before… like we have mixed spaces already. Not saying make everything mixed but we have already had them for decades…
@danbeaumont5742
@danbeaumont5742 Жыл бұрын
I like to think that person has never pooped at home just to spite everyone they live with
@ianmcsherry5254
@ianmcsherry5254 Жыл бұрын
Also avoiding the small point that if someone was inclined to sexually assault another person in a toilet, they would not be waiting until those toilets were decreed to be mixed-use.
@steve08717
@steve08717 Жыл бұрын
@@ianmcsherry5254 id be more scared of being in a toilet with a tory mp then a trans person they have a far higher conviction rate of cottageing just look up robert boothby
@samsara3694
@samsara3694 Жыл бұрын
I've heard of people advocating for mixed loos in addition to same-sex only, but not that all loos should be unisex. The right do like a good old strawman, don't they?
@stingersplash
@stingersplash Жыл бұрын
Or any train.
@MrBarry465
@MrBarry465 Жыл бұрын
"things are changing and I don't like it" - basically.
@zaksharman
@zaksharman Жыл бұрын
Simple Woke means being aware of and is against all forms of racial discrimination.
@Hitchhiker007
@Hitchhiker007 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, just discriminations of any kind. The right just be.
@alexwood1390
@alexwood1390 Жыл бұрын
"I can't explain what it means, but it means everything I disagree with, and I will spend an unhealthy amount of time obsessively complaining about it"
@Marenqo
@Marenqo Жыл бұрын
Q. "What is woke? " A. "People are different but people can do the same thing" Okay.
@tabbymoonshine5986
@tabbymoonshine5986 Жыл бұрын
These people spew white noise.
@DD-sr9xm
@DD-sr9xm Жыл бұрын
It’s really hilarious that these people think being “woke” and “virtue signalling” are bad things. That being aware of injustice in our world and doing/saying virtuous things is a flaw. So that’s Jesus, Gandhi, Lincoln … all woke and virtue signallers.
@1dkappe
@1dkappe Жыл бұрын
“Woke” doesn’t mean anything anymore. “Virtue signaling” started out as a pejorative term on the left.
@nameisamine
@nameisamine Жыл бұрын
The word woke has been spoilt unfortunately. I think we should move on this word tbh.
@gordonstrong5232
@gordonstrong5232 Жыл бұрын
@@1dkappe I thought the term virtue signalling was coined by James Bartholomew, a journalist who works for right-wing rags like the Telegraph, Spectator and Daily Mail?
@gordonstrong5232
@gordonstrong5232 Жыл бұрын
Jesus was the most genuinely woke individual in human history
@1dkappe
@1dkappe Жыл бұрын
@@gordonstrong5232 he did try to claim it in 2015, but it was in common use a few years earlier to describe corporate empty gestures to show they were down with the cause (whatever cause that might be).
@chrischarlescook
@chrischarlescook Жыл бұрын
If there's one thing I've learned from the past 10 years of Tory politics, it's that stupid people get old too.
@PaulBadman
@PaulBadman Жыл бұрын
woke means equal rights for all. however it's now a buzz word for right that means anything that disagrees with them
@powderandpaint14
@powderandpaint14 Жыл бұрын
No, actually it means AWARE, in terms of being aware of the issues you and others might be facing, specifically when it comes to racism.
@T.E.S.S.
@T.E.S.S. Жыл бұрын
You're wrong
@PaulBadman
@PaulBadman Жыл бұрын
@@powderandpaint14 I was on the right page I guess
@ltmund
@ltmund Жыл бұрын
Nope, we have equal rights for all (at least i cant think of any that aren't already law) Woke stands for equality of outcome, others, who the woke hate, stand for equality of opportunity.
@eh1702
@eh1702 Жыл бұрын
What does “woke” mean? It’s what I don’t like and it’s also meaningless. 🤔🙄
@PAS100170
@PAS100170 Жыл бұрын
Truss: "I remember as a young girl being presented on a plane with a junior air hostess badge. Meanwhile, my brothers were given junior pilot badges." “It made me angry and it made me determined to change things.” And then they all clapped. Amazing.
@bakedbean37
@bakedbean37 Жыл бұрын
She's their new Irony Lady don't you know.
@ChrisWorth
@ChrisWorth Жыл бұрын
Extraordinary. The guy talking about mixed loos. He goes from saying people are accused of being intolerant for feeling uncomfortable with mixed loos to admitting they "don't believe in" mixed loos without it even registering. I don't feel comfortable in same sex showers so I don't use them. Saying I don't believe in same sex showers means I don't think they should exist. It's fine to feel uncomfortable about something. What is not fine is to impose your hang ups on everyone else.
@AreMullets4AustraliansOnly
@AreMullets4AustraliansOnly Жыл бұрын
They don't understand the difference between a hangup and being victimised by something, because they're not on the societal underfoot.
@BigmanDogs
@BigmanDogs Жыл бұрын
Actually it's not fine to be uncomfortable with it. Those people are branded as transphobic which many argue should be criminal. In fact I personally believe that transphobia should be criminal. I just personally don't agree with a lot of people's assessment of what qualifies as such.
@ChrisWorth
@ChrisWorth Жыл бұрын
@@BigmanDogs Is it ok that I feel uncomfortable showering with other men?
@TheRogueDM
@TheRogueDM Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisWorth I think Bigman Dogs means in the context of what Mixed Loos Guy was defining as "uncomfortable" is actually just hatred of trans people. I'm sure if he knew no trans people could use the mixed loos he'd feel absolutely fine with them.
@Emperorhirohito19272
@Emperorhirohito19272 Жыл бұрын
They agree about as much as flat earthers agree on what the world actually looks like
@mr_slidey
@mr_slidey Жыл бұрын
Isn't that a good thing? You don't want people with exactly the same opinions. Not in the conservatives, not in labour etc. That's called an echo chamber.
@markwelch3564
@markwelch3564 Жыл бұрын
@@mr_slidey echo Chambers are bad, but delusion and denial are worse.I have yet to see a flat earther set up a satellite network, as a quick example!
@jgtemperton
@jgtemperton Жыл бұрын
@@mr_slidey no. Aristotle said ‘democracy means nothing without education’. Clearly there is a lack of both on view here.
@Dedicated_.1
@Dedicated_.1 Жыл бұрын
@@jgtemperton Why do you say that they’re uneducated, some of these answers were fairly well thought out ?
@StuArch1
@StuArch1 Жыл бұрын
It's good to see that the conservatives are still in touch with the public, they also have their fingers on their own pulse. They have to because they could soon pass.
@NoJusticeMTG
@NoJusticeMTG Жыл бұрын
Literally none of them can define it concretely. I'll define it for you - the charge of wokeism is directed by the right against utilitarian moral philosophy
@nathanperkins5624
@nathanperkins5624 Жыл бұрын
Wokeism is used by right wing pricks to smear progressive ideas
@garethbusby438
@garethbusby438 Жыл бұрын
Not in a way I understand, you can’t!
@alfresco8442
@alfresco8442 Жыл бұрын
Woke says far more about the person wielding it, than the ill-defined object of their attack.
@BoojayDeeth
@BoojayDeeth Жыл бұрын
This might be a definition. But I don't think it is THE definition.
@user-ku1jd5gi4o
@user-ku1jd5gi4o Жыл бұрын
I would argue it is deployed against ANY moral philosophy.
@Rhyddid_tan
@Rhyddid_tan Жыл бұрын
I thought it stood for awakened or enlightened, an acceptance of understanding or seeing things in a new light. Progressive thinking.
@TheRealDeal130
@TheRealDeal130 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what it is; couldn't have said it better.
@ltmund
@ltmund Жыл бұрын
Thats what it should be. But its morphed into exaggeration of issues, without real facts, to use as a political tool to generate hatred.
@andrewbaker7365
@andrewbaker7365 Жыл бұрын
According to the dictionary it means being aware of social issues, seems sensible to me
@doctorfunkshock
@doctorfunkshock Жыл бұрын
Tories are averse to social justice and decency - I love how they struggle to think about things that aren't money.
@leeoreilly6797
@leeoreilly6797 Жыл бұрын
The Conservative conference looks a lot like those larping conventions (whatever they're called?) Where people dress up as Wizards and orcs and all that crac. Except they're dressed as 1800s cotton mill owners, and things like that.
@sarcasticstartrek7719
@sarcasticstartrek7719 Жыл бұрын
"culturally aware" which is how I think of it.
@blahdelablah
@blahdelablah Жыл бұрын
In my view the term "woke" may have had different origins, but now it's just a rebranding of "political correctness".
@ringo1888
@ringo1888 Жыл бұрын
@@blahdelablah woke does mean being aware of inequalities. However, it is used in a derogatory way to discredit those being aware of inequalities and progressive ideas. 'political correctness' is used in the same way to discredit being aware/taking action of inequalities and for progressive ideas. Both are used intentionally this way to stigmatise the word and thus, stigmatise being associated with anything that is apart of progressive ideas, activism, movements etc. It's simply to discredit so they can be ignored from the beginning. So because of that, the definition is changing because of how it is being used. A replacement for the original use of the word 'woke' would probably be progressive, 'being progressive'. There's maybe another word out there which is better suited though (can't think off the top of my head)
@blahdelablah
@blahdelablah Жыл бұрын
@@ringo1888 Thanks for your comment. To be clear, I understand that the word "woke" before it was twisted by its critics had a different meaning, my point with drawing parallels with political correctness is to point out that it's used by critics as an alternative for "political correctness". In other words, the criticism of "wokeness" existed before "woke" was a term, it's not a new phenomenon just a rebranding.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz Жыл бұрын
4:50 I like this guy, he's claiming he wants to understand gender but when he asks someone to explain it he doesn't listen
@fazziebear
@fazziebear Жыл бұрын
Or bother to find out, it’s like he’s forgotten how to educate himself 😂
@jonathanyes112
@jonathanyes112 Жыл бұрын
@@fazziebear well he said he was shot down whilst trying to educate himself. It is a good idea to get it straight from the horse’s mouth
@azuill1126
@azuill1126 Жыл бұрын
Google is free
@davidsmith5523
@davidsmith5523 Жыл бұрын
One thing I will never put up with is intolerance.
@davidsmith5523
@davidsmith5523 Жыл бұрын
@J did you recognise the joke?
@davidsmith5523
@davidsmith5523 Жыл бұрын
@J i am trying to ascertain whether you believe in any form of social responsibility at all other than your concept of your rights. Out of curiosity.
@bleedingpepper
@bleedingpepper Жыл бұрын
"Woke" is basically a derogative term - a slur devoid of meaning and substance. It's like the term "social justice warrior" which was big up until recently ("woke" is pretty much the successor). It's like "socialism" - alot of people who have negative views of it rarely know what it means. It's just a slur. It's a big thing in the US, but still significant in Europe as well.
@twolessba1087
@twolessba1087 Жыл бұрын
Whenever someone brings up gender neutral bathrooms in a debate, simply inform them that they have locks on the doors.
@jameskilgour387
@jameskilgour387 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video, i learned that wokeism is: - When people challenge what I say - When people don't debate me - The LGBT - Trans - I don't know Truly the pinnacle of modern philosophy in the Tory party (fair play to the younger two though for basically admitting it's just a strawman of things Tory's don't like)
@WhoOneIs
@WhoOneIs Жыл бұрын
You should ask Tories to describe somnambulism, not wokeness, in your next video. It seems to be more their terrain.
@slappybagOG
@slappybagOG Жыл бұрын
They've got it all; different heights, colours, styles... But not socio-economic backgrounds! That's the key takeaway.
@andydovey7417
@andydovey7417 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of those wonderful vox pops in "The Day Today" with Chris Morris when he was asking folk about "the letter of the law", people just rambled on and he would try to pin them down to such an extent that one guy defined the letter of the law as "L" 🤣
@alexanderrobertson3526
@alexanderrobertson3526 Жыл бұрын
I agree that this is what the interviews reminded me of too, but the unrepentant pedant that I am is compelled to point out that the letter of the law response that vox pop came up with was "J", which is even funnier because it doesn't even make as much sense as "L" does. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4i6q3mtebmJsJY
@robjones2408
@robjones2408 Жыл бұрын
None of my children use the word "woke", they have never even heard of it. They are all in their late twenties. Then again, they are mature adults. You can't say that about the Tories or readers of the DM/DT.
@nameisamine
@nameisamine Жыл бұрын
That’s strange because I heard the word woke the past 15 years from black American tv shows, film, and mostly American rap music. I’ll never forget the day when I went to visit my mother, she had radio 4 on, and they were discussing ‘wokeness’. By the time your parents find out the slang, it’s lost its cool. The word went mainstream in the worst possible way. 😅
@robjones2408
@robjones2408 Жыл бұрын
@@nameisamine A valid point, the word has now become a term for small-minded people to sneer at. Twenty years ago, it was "political correctness". Some things never change.
@cghpeg
@cghpeg Жыл бұрын
These people have never complained about disabled people having mixed loos for an awful long time.
@SuspiriaOG
@SuspiriaOG Жыл бұрын
‘It’s a lack of respect that people have different views’ honestly are these people even human?
@thebonnarman1287
@thebonnarman1287 Жыл бұрын
I mean this just confirms what was already known.
@toriesout8692
@toriesout8692 Жыл бұрын
So many dinosaurs. Most of whom have no idea what they're talking about.
@modestproposal9114
@modestproposal9114 Жыл бұрын
Being a con, conservatives are always vague about the terms they use. That way it can be used flexibility and allow plausible deniability. They never defined Brexit for the referendum, that way they could get lots of people believing in different things to vote the same way. They would never get a majority for any specific defined Brexit. Similarly they can rile lots of people up about the woke mob, but could never do that for a specific defined wokism.
@ceriannalflorencina8297
@ceriannalflorencina8297 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely pitiful. They should all be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
@annishilcock4587
@annishilcock4587 Жыл бұрын
Should the gentleman in the blue striped shirt who's worried people might kill him perhaps be in a care home and not out alone roaming the streets?
@damianleah6744
@damianleah6744 Жыл бұрын
Tolerance, which they don’t have
@troywalkertheprogressivean8433
@troywalkertheprogressivean8433 Жыл бұрын
5:30 I wouldn't care what Tories SAY, it's what they DO, that's the problem. Hypocrisy is a conservative cornerstone. It's everpresent in everything they say and do. It's their nature. The mark of the beast.
@ltmund
@ltmund Жыл бұрын
Its this kind of political hatred which history has told us is the real danger. Calling other political ideas evil.
@aupaaupa2377
@aupaaupa2377 Жыл бұрын
The first guy: So anyway, just let me spew utter homophobia
@RG-Zeldaplayer
@RG-Zeldaplayer Жыл бұрын
Woke as I understad it refers to being aware of social injustice, its causes and its impacts - It is IMO a positive term. The issue is that it requires conservatives to address systemic issues. Conservativism seeks to maintain the illusion of meritocracy and so anything that challenges that view is in their eyes a negative - hence a disdain for woke. They use it as a pejorative when in fact it is a badge of honour.
@Samgurney88
@Samgurney88 Жыл бұрын
The Central Dogma of Woke-ology is that only ‘oppression’ can cause inequalities of outcome. Corollary: all but the most unfortunate groups are oppressors. It is this logic to which critics of ‘woke’ typically object. To insist that any inequality of outcome necessarily implies inequality of opportunity is equivalent to insisting on equality of outcome: since success is a sure sign of sin. But meritocracy simply cannot guarantee equality of outcome.
@GG-hu9dn
@GG-hu9dn Жыл бұрын
"Woke" as in awareness of injustice and inequality and spelling it out for what it is and. /what it stands for?!
@davidsmith5523
@davidsmith5523 Жыл бұрын
We are in safe hands.
@tabbymoonshine5986
@tabbymoonshine5986 Жыл бұрын
Go back to sleep plebs......shhhhh
@takeoischi4156
@takeoischi4156 Жыл бұрын
Do you post these interviews unedited anywhere? Would be interesting to hear their full answers
@smith5796
@smith5796 Жыл бұрын
Probably be Worse.
@michaelrch
@michaelrch Жыл бұрын
"I don't know what it is or what it means or who it describes, but I know that it's BAD!"
@AreMullets4AustraliansOnly
@AreMullets4AustraliansOnly Жыл бұрын
"They're prepared to do unacceptable things to the individual" can we have an example of these things being carried out? I mean there's plenty of examples of various minority groups being attacked and worked against by the establishment and individuals etc, but very very few examples of the reverse, so how do we know the people making threats online due to their own boredom and vitriol (the internet can be a vitriolic place) are "prepared" to do these things.
@JakeLDS
@JakeLDS Жыл бұрын
Good to see they're all enraged by something they are all clueless about.
@cghpeg
@cghpeg Жыл бұрын
I'm not saying all Tories are bigots, but why are many bigots Tories?
@avoidconfusion
@avoidconfusion Жыл бұрын
"So LGBDQ right...." Good grief
@jonnobloggs8642
@jonnobloggs8642 Жыл бұрын
I now want you to ask them to explain the offside rule .
@magnusbuckus3266
@magnusbuckus3266 Жыл бұрын
"wokeism is a distortion of historical reality" no it's just people who aren't English say how they feel about English colonialism. The Irish with persecution and famine, the Scottish with the Highland clearances and invasions, the Welsh with cultural repression and exploitation of their resources.
@dianeshelton9592
@dianeshelton9592 Жыл бұрын
You know I have asked this question of people before only to watch them flounder. It’s simple just treat other people with the respect you want them to treat you. It’s not difficult, nor should it cause anyone to feel uncomfortable or scared. Basically for them it’s about being not being allowed to treat people with disrespect and to being allowed to think of other people as lesser. Simple example in the Conservative party , Sunak despite being a sane person, not much of a qualification for PM, did not stand a hope in hell of being elected by the Conservative party members. Personally I am delighted as Truss has imploded the Conservative party wonderfully well , I just wish she could have done it without causing such hardship for so many people. Sunak would have taken longer. However 13 years of Tory leadership would have lead to the parties inevitable collapse. It’s a lot more difficult to say what the opposite of being woke is because it’s so omnipresent and prevalent amongst a certain section of society. However given how the Conservatives have so royally screwed themselves we have the perfect example of what happens when you don’t treat others with that respect that you yourself would wish.
@himoffthequakeroatbox4320
@himoffthequakeroatbox4320 Жыл бұрын
1:40 Is he on his way to a fancy dress party, going as Huggy Bear off Starsky & Hutch?
@boxingmonkey8621
@boxingmonkey8621 Жыл бұрын
Good Bad & the Ugly
@andylake9793
@andylake9793 Жыл бұрын
How is the commonwealth balance sheet in our favour??
@TruthTortoise81
@TruthTortoise81 Жыл бұрын
We marched around the world colonising, enslaving and plundering. Hence the balance sheet is in our favour.
@andylake9793
@andylake9793 Жыл бұрын
@@TruthTortoise81 In this case then it's very much unfavourable as the truth is we were bastards
@machidaman
@machidaman Жыл бұрын
It is funny how often I am accused of being woke on the internet and yet never once has anybody said it to my face. Wonder why that is...🤔
@Hitchhiker007
@Hitchhiker007 Жыл бұрын
Because you don't wear Red Chiffon. 😳😁
@machidaman
@machidaman Жыл бұрын
@@Hitchhiker007 it's not uneard of...
@vivo-audio
@vivo-audio Жыл бұрын
Well, that's cleared things up.
@65hilary48
@65hilary48 Жыл бұрын
7.25 tells you everything you need to know. Can you give an example? "I don't want to get into that debate, because I don't want to go down that track." Woke is a word for ideas you don't like that would make you look like a bigot if you actually explicitly came out against them. So they just say "woke" because they're too ashamed to specify any further.
@killbotone6210
@killbotone6210 Жыл бұрын
Defining wokeism is easy. Wokeism is an old Old wooden ship.
@jafboxed
@jafboxed Жыл бұрын
They want to be treated with woke, but don’t respect it for others.
@paulfenton7776
@paulfenton7776 Жыл бұрын
Woke means awake and this bunch are asleep.
@hws3886
@hws3886 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@soulrebelno1
@soulrebelno1 Жыл бұрын
The word "woke" is African-American vernacular for being awake to racial prejudice and discrimination. It's quite clear that the people in this video haven't a clue what it means, because they're too lazy to find out. Right-wingers have now turned the original meaning of the word on its head. They don't know what it means, but they'll repeat it parrot fashion, and apply it to anything they see as left-wing. British right-wingers use it because it's just another trendy American right-wing term they've picked up from the media or a colleague, a prime example being Piers Morgan! If you use the word as a slur against another person or a certain group of people, then you're being a racist, such as, calling the Black Lives Matter movement woke, or being discriminatory when applied to something like the many LGBT movements. Another word that the right-wing has taken completely out of context is the American term, "snowflake"!
@bubba842
@bubba842 Жыл бұрын
The guy at 2.15 Conservatism is "pride in ones country." When did the Conservatives gain the monopoly on national pride?? Just like most Tories, they have no idea what they stand for.
@dylanapivor3743
@dylanapivor3743 Жыл бұрын
You don't need to give a Tory very much proverbial rope
@Samgurney88
@Samgurney88 Жыл бұрын
The only thing weaker than vox pop journalism is partisan vox pop journalism. All it ever proves is how inarticulate the average person is, and how widespread is stupidity.
@grahamsmith6053
@grahamsmith6053 Жыл бұрын
Proof that the Tories don’t have a bloody clue!
@joeavreg2254
@joeavreg2254 Жыл бұрын
I'm super mad hearing about humans not being ok with me being one of the people that ensures inequality and will refuse to allow positive change and that is woke.
@ltmund
@ltmund Жыл бұрын
Could you give an example of the inequalities you are looking to correct?
@joeavreg2254
@joeavreg2254 Жыл бұрын
@@ltmund You mean like the housing inequality? Eroding public services? Things like the Tory government literally just giving 45 billion for free to the richest people in the UK? We both know this isn't a serious question.
@ltmund
@ltmund Жыл бұрын
@@joeavreg2254 Serious question, is that woke? Hate to break it to you, but that's not the tories. Thats all over the west
@rayboish
@rayboish Жыл бұрын
This is the danger of these terms like woke, they can mean different things to different people. I think that we should just stick to the issues at hand .
@powderandpaint14
@powderandpaint14 Жыл бұрын
It actually has a specific and very easy definition. Sadly none of these conservatives know it.
@killbotone6210
@killbotone6210 Жыл бұрын
@@powderandpaint14 Whats the scientific peer reviewed definition then?
@powderandpaint14
@powderandpaint14 Жыл бұрын
@@killbotone6210 Aware. It means to be aware of issues that might affect you or other, and specifically in terms of racism. It originated in the African American community.
@nameisamine
@nameisamine Жыл бұрын
@@killbotone6210 well it started as a slang term in Black America. It wasn’t cooked up in a PHD thesis or peer reviewed journals.
@yinyatto9911
@yinyatto9911 Жыл бұрын
to be woke is to be sensitive to social and political injustice, however what is up for opinion is what each individual would consider a social and political injustice its quite a broad term Justice is just another social construct what one would consider justice may not be the same as another. having a democracy tries to figure out what MOST people consider the correct cause of action and agian this becomes a problem when the democratic system is taken advantage of by people who wish to transfer wealth and power to a select few while gaslighting everybody else
@Mazeboxx
@Mazeboxx Жыл бұрын
Let me summarize: I don't know what it is, but I reject it.
@marccarter1350
@marccarter1350 Жыл бұрын
I learned so much by watching this clip
@leemo2000
@leemo2000 Жыл бұрын
They say "woke" because it sounds much more insulting than "enlightened". Besides that, they can't spell enlightened.
@jarrellanthony596
@jarrellanthony596 Жыл бұрын
It really annoys me when people flip between using "woke" as an adjective and a noun. In fact, it just shows how badly understood and inappropriately used it is.
@itookallthenames
@itookallthenames Жыл бұрын
All these people freely speaking about being “unable” to speak freely
@julesmorgan5986
@julesmorgan5986 Жыл бұрын
Strange how whilst decrying 'Wokeism', the tory at 5m00s describes the Conservative Party and its membership precisely twenty seconds later. A small insidious minority...
@ennspek
@ennspek Жыл бұрын
How does this channel not have more subs? Especially in this day and age.
@Exsugarbabe1
@Exsugarbabe1 Жыл бұрын
As a lefty I would like to have a nation to be proud of, The Tories give us all a lot to he ashamed of.
@robertskolimowski7049
@robertskolimowski7049 Жыл бұрын
2:25 Omg, this chap🤦‍♂️
@seanelstob5922
@seanelstob5922 Жыл бұрын
I’d urge people to look up the definition of the word before misusing it in the way they do.
@rde4017
@rde4017 Жыл бұрын
So basically none of them know what "woke" means. That explains a lot.
@keltiquewood
@keltiquewood Жыл бұрын
So many different people saying absolutely nothing!
@MC8AC
@MC8AC Жыл бұрын
"A distortion of historical reality". Couldn't agree more mate. By his own definition @ 2 minutes 50 seconds in he is the most woke tory interviewed. An utter spatula!
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