HONDA PROLOGUE - A Complete Range, Charging and Route Planning Test

[@ryanmarks4075]

As a first-time EV owner who bought the Honda Prologue a week ago and am planning my first road trip, this video confused the living crap out of me.

[@Aslash304]

I’ll address this in an upcoming video

[@ryanmarks4075]

@@Aslash304 Thanks! I erased the zero stars part because that wasn't really called for and I'm watching your other videos to learn more. :)

[@Aslash304]

@@ryanmarks4075 no offense taken. I appreciate you giving me another shot

[@joselyneferrer9223]

Following. I just bought mine and i got confused too on this video

[@stetard]

Yup, there’s a lot going on here that confuses me. It feels like there’s lot of good info, but I need a more basic explanation as a new ev owner.

[@tomhockman6267]

I appreciate these videos showing real world facts about EV usage. It's definitely a nerd exercise to calculate the charge factors.

[@Aslash304]

Yes, and almost everything I did in this video was unnecessary. I just wanted to show all the details.

[@sickb0y333]

Thanks again for all your work and great content

[@Aslash304]

@@sickb0y333 thanks for watching!

[@hpwray]

Great video. Thank you for all the details and all the work you did!!!!

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for watching!

[@GetToThePointAlready]

Really appreciate you doing these tests! I dont think anyone has actually gone into such depth! Random question, have you tried the ioniq 5?

[@Aslash304]

Yes. It’s significantly better because it charges faster

[@phill6885]

Thanks Adam. I have to agree with another commenter that was somewhat off-putting as an experience. Access to Tesla superchargers will undoubtedly create issues to due the charge port location vs Tesla supercharger short charge cord. However if you can get an end spot or access from the backside you won't be taking up 2 spots. I can see issues ahead when non tesla EVs clog up Tesla Supercharge locations. I'm currently waiting for my adapter to checkout the Blazer EV compatibility with Tesla superchargers. It works fine at home on a level 2 Tesla universal charger with the charger set to compatibility mode (no more cannot charge messages).

[@Aslash304]

I appreciate the feedback. It’s not a seamless process. I hope your experience with the Blazer goes well!

[@JeffButera]

I find that Prologue Charge Later (by) timing is spot on, for those of us that don’t share with a clothes dryer.

[@Aslash304]

I appreciate the feedback

[@josh3326]

Ive scheduled a charge on my Prologue and the same thing happened. I don't use that anymore. five attempts was enough for me. Never fully charges.

[@Aslash304]

I appreciate the feedback. I’ll give it one more try

[@EvMan6466]

The current lease deal for the prologue $199/month 36 months 10k/year plus $5k for taxes and to bring the payment down. I have a 2024 Chevrolet Equinox RS. I’m tempted to get a 2nd car as I like the prologue too. lol

[@Aslash304]

They have good deals right now

[@Lightdog555]

The Honda app isn’t the best I have a clarity and it always has issues and I am transitioning to full EV relatively soon so thank you for your experiences. I live in Los Angeles, so generally chargers out here are plentiful I am looking at the Volvo XC40 and ID4 the Mach E is starting to come into my price range so lots of good options

[@Aslash304]

There are a lot of good options in the used market. Good luck in your search!

[@robklaproth8144]

All good cars, depending on when you pull the trigger the Ford is the most expensive for leasing right now, hopefully they fix that, I ended up with the Honda. I WISH I HAD WATCHED THIS VIDEO BEFORE BUYING, I would have kept trying to get the IONIQ in the same price range, but hey I got a killer deal on the Touring Prologue, $150 a month cheaper than Hyundai wanted me to pay for the highest trim on their Ioniq.

[@robklaproth8144]

Thanks for making me regret my purchase of a Prologue. Taking it on the first road trip in a couple weeks, a round trip jaunt from San Diego to Palm Springs a whopping 500 mile elevation gain, but there are a few passes along the way that have some larger elevations, I suspect it will still be a bit more efficient then your terrain. I was spoiled with my Model 3, but I will enjoy the quiet and luxurious ride of the Prologue, so there is that. If I'm lucky I can go to Palm Springs without charging and plug in somewhere over the weekend I'm staying and be golden.

[@Aslash304]

Charging isn’t bad. I showed everything I did so people know what to research. The Prologue is great for road trips. I did a big one recently. Video soon. That said: the model 3/Y, both of which I’ve owned, are far and away the best road trip vehicles on earth.

[@Beach_City562]

How did the prologue do on the trip? How was the charming situation?

[@Icg123]

That is one hell of an elevation change.

[@Aslash304]

@@Beach_City562 Charging the Prologue is great. Especially now that it has supercharger access.

[@brendanmcgowan8841]

@@Aslash304 Because of an adapter, right?

[@DairyAirGunners]

Considering your difficulty in Md., imagine the potential for even more problems out here in Arizona. I love the idea of an EV, but it's just not ready for prime time IMHO.

[@Aslash304]

Technically I didn’t have any problems. But if you want a gas station experience, you won’t be an EV owner.

[@DairyAirGunners]

@@Aslash304 : Some day perhaps.

[@rylans.5365]

Your best bet for now is a Tesla or any vehicle that can use its superchargers with the adapter which the list is expanding. I live in Austin and I have a 2022 first edition Kia EV6 and the supercharger network will be opening for Kia and Hyundai vehicles in January 2025.

[@coolandmellow]

Correct,it's 5 years away

[@bobby45]

Not for a Tesla

[@shawnwinget2337]

I haven't tried the schedule on my prologue yet. I have a chargepoint charger and I tried the schedule on the chargepoint app and it didn't work. I can start and stop charging from the app but for some reason scheduling it to start did not work. I just go out into the garage after 8 or so and plug it in and let it charge to whatever I've set the car to. Our electricity is 7 cents a kwh so pretty cheap. The PUD does not appear to have a different rate for what they consider peak times but I figure after 8 pm is probably pretty safe if they do.

[@Aslash304]

Sorry about your planning experience. Your electric rate is cheap. That’s great you’re taking advantage with an EV

[@shawnwinget2337]

@@Aslash304 not really planning yet. It was just an experiment to see what works at home. I live in eastern WA and there aren’t a ton of chargers for trips. I think once superchargers are available I can plan trips longer than 100 miles. We have a hybrid we can take on family trips but I still want to try taking the prologue in longer road trips.

[@LouisDuran]

So this is a Honda Blazer right?

[@Aslash304]

Pretty much

[@LouisDuran]

I trust Honda over GM though

[@supertec2023]

​@@LouisDuranit's not a Honda in any way whatsoever it's a general motors product everything about it

[@LouisDuran]

@@supertec2023 That is false.

[@gerhardk98]

In four years of EV ownership I haven’t had as many issues charging as you have had in this one trip. 🤷🏼‍♂️ In our own there is a 50kw charge point that hasn’t worked for 2 years, I had a out of town driver ask me bout fast charging and the options where about 45 km south and 70 km northwest he had to charge at an available 6kw unit for longer than he wanted to in order to reach a faster charger. Anyway after rhat I thought I would ask Charge Point about the charger and they replied that they were waiting for an upgraded modem. They must still be trying to figure out how to go about making the modem a year after I contacted them.

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for your feedback. For the avoidance of doubt, I successfully charged 4 out of 4 times.

[@t37-vq2xh]

Thanks Adam, enjoy your videos. You have a nice voice. Could you make a video with vehicle shut down and start up sequences - I'm interested in whether audio (from any sources - radio, Bluetooth, Android Audio, built in apps, etc.) starts to play automatically upon car startup, even if the audio source was turned off before shutting the car down. On some vehicles there isn't a way to actually "turn off" audio and it always plays when the car starts, even if you had it "muted" before, so I'm interested in getting details on how the Prologue performs in this aspect.

[@Aslash304]

My pleasure. Will do

[@torion29able]

Do u know if the tesla adapter for fast charging will charge the car faster than electrify america?

[@Aslash304]

Nope. The limit is 150 kW. A 350 EA will do it, and a supercharger will do it

[@Intruder730]

I believe I heard you in one of your videos talking about the memory seat option is not or was not working. You need to activate the function in the vehicle settings.

[@Aslash304]

I got mine working. Thanks so much for this

[@robklaproth8144]

One of the minor annoyances of Honda, almost everything is disabled by default.

[@LouisDuran]

knowing that the car sucks at calculating how long it takes to chare go 100%, in the future you will just charge to 100% 3 hours before you need it.

[@Aslash304]

Absolutely right. Great advice

[@ammarh7565]

Off-charging topic but... Has any Prologue owner noticed a knocking sound when you're taking a slow sharp turn? Like, pulling out of the driveway I'll hear a knocking sound from either the driver front or passenger front (axle maybe?) based on which way I turn.

[@Aslash304]

I would definitely consult a dealer.

[@erendidavargas7248]

All good only when came to explain about the klw and cost I get confused I need slow explanation 😊

[@Aslash304]

Happy to answer any questions. Feel free to reach out at [e-mail]

[@Molishious]

I’m very interested to see how you do on the Tesla chargers since the Prologue is a GM car, but you can’t assume anything. I suppose you can’t assume even a regular GM car is going to charge smoothly. So you’ll have the issue of the short charging cable and the charge port being on the opposite side of the car from a Tesla backed in. Have any of the car companies put their charge port in the same spot as Tesla? Seems like that would be a good idea at this point.

[@Aslash304]

The inlets being in the same place will definitely make a difference. A2Z EV just made an NACS extension cable. It sold out immediately.

[@supertec2023]

@@Molishious here's an interesting comment about the Tesla chargers with the prologue I brought up the information on Honda techline forum asking does the Tesla charger only work with a general motors interface because general motors says if you use any other charging interface they can invalidate your battery warranty Honda wrote back to me saying check with your dealer parts service manager. So I asked her that same day when she arrived at a dealership for their meeting and she had no idea.

[@Molishious]

@@supertec2023 Interesting. That doesn’t give you much confidence, but I’d bet that it’s something GM will work out with Honda or they already have and the person you talked to was not aware of it. In any case, I’m not surprised there is confusion about it.

[@arunkumar194912223]

Enjoying your videos! But I'm curious why you don't put the actual charging station in GPS. Does this car not " prepared for fast charging " thanks

[@Aslash304]

Great question: With a max of 150 there’s no need. Also, the chargers I’m going to are either capped by the voltage of the car or the amps at the charger to the point that there’s absolutely no use in preconditioning. Go to 11 minutes and 15 seconds in this video to learn more about why preconditioning this car will do nothing unless it’s really cold out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGnJq6yMm9qqbacsi=0FA1TTsCbM5i03vY

[@arunkumar194912223]

@Aslash304 thats very interesting, but such bad charging speeds looks like miss.

[@jonq8714]

I love mine, got the EX trim because the price was right. I almost regret it for the single reason that the 6 speaker sound system in the EX trim may be the worst sounding stereo I've ever had in a car. I test drove teh Touring and it sounded amazing... my bad for not putting it through the paces first. For $52k, this is unacceptable really. I get that the Touring should have a more premium sound, but the drop off shouldn't be premium to hot garbage, it should be premium to pretty good.

[@Aslash304]

This is a reality in modern cars. My Fisker ocean was this way as well. The low trim stereo was literal trash. It’s the penalty they want to give you for not upgrading. And I agree, it’s a bad look.

[@stosgarage456]

Yeah, I was in the market for a EV but I’ll be getting a hybrid instead.

[@Aslash304]

Sorry to hear it

[@hotshotxi]

It's not that bad. There's a little bit of learning required but the thing is so does a combustion engine, people just don't realize everything they've learned over the years

[@KimJongILLTurrble]

Hi Adam, I'm using the level 1 charger at home. Is there any way to measure exactly how many kilowatts are being pulled? Trying to calculate how much money in electricity I'm using. I know it takes roughly a 10 hour charge to go from 72% to 80%. Thanks!

[@Aslash304]

The HondLink app will show your exact volts and amps. You can multiply the watts you get as a result by the length of time you were charging in number of hours expressed as a decimal. If your level 1 is 120v and 8 amp that’s 960 watts or 0.96 kW. If you charge at that rate for 5 and a half hours, then multiply 5.5 times 0.96, that’s 5.28kWh. Hope this helps.

[@KimJongILLTurrble]

@@Aslash304 Thanks!

[@DblOSmith]

Man... Tesla has me spoiled. That lack of interoperability would be so frustrating.

[@Aslash304]

It is. My last car was a model Y.

[@KamikazeeNYC]

I won't even look at the Honda for my next vehicle. That experience would annoy me tremendously.

[@Aslash304]

@@KamikazeeNYCroad trips are annoying. 80-90% of driving is effortless.

[@EvMan6466]

How do you like the prologue google route planning ?

[@Aslash304]

I am getting used to it. It is fairly intuitive, and for the most part does a good job. I don’t like being told where to charge, but that’s a me problem

[@EvMan6466]

@@Aslash304 I think I do a similar approach as you. I verify using PlugShare. Also now that I have access to Tesla charging network when possible I try to prioritize that as I know, I will get reliable charging there.

[@EvMan6466]

But I find the percentage left at my destination showing on Google maps seems to be very accurate and somewhat conservative making sure I will have at least that amount left, but I’ve only put a few thousand miles on my car so far so maybe that will change as I drive it more and get more experience with it

[@Aslash304]

@@EvMan6466 Google maps is conservative for sure

[@EvMan6466]

@@Aslash304I would just use Tesla chargers to save any grief. Thoughts?

[@KondalAlampally]

Hey Adam, appreciate your analysis. Good lease deals are going on Chevy Equinox EV so I have a 2021 Honda Accord and was planning to sell my Honda and go with the Equinox. When I reached to Honda dealer, they said they could give me the same deal on the prologue if I traded in my car and they mentioned they could give good trade-in value. I am from the California Bay Area. Is it a good deal to go with prologue over equinox or go with equinox? I am confused. Could you please let me know your thoughts?

[@Aslash304]

The battery pack is the same. The range is within 20 miles. It’s really about which one you like the looks of better, and if you want Apple CarPlay, which the equinox doesn’t have. Check out my deep dive on the Prologue here to learn more about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGnJq6yMm9qqbacsi=Kk3teeZx3HJkU6Fg

[@KondalAlampally]

@@Aslash304 Thanks for the response. I like the prologue but my only concern is charging. If I can ask could you please let me know how long you have been having prologue and did you had any hard time regarding charging or range? Is the range accurate? One of my friends has an equinox and he confirmed that the range is accurate.

[@Aslash304]

@@KondalAlampally Range is always based on how you drive. I always get more than the EPA says because I drive slowly. My lifetime miles per kWh is 3.4.

[@Trollberg]

Add 45 min planning charge stop mapping

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for your comment

[@ryanfagan4563]

Sorry Adam, I usually enjoy your video's. Keep in mind, My family is an ALL EV driving family. With 3 evs under our belt since 2019. However, after watching this video, not even I would want to drive an EV😢

[@ryanfagan4563]

Maybe it was just the way it was edited? It just seemed like soo many steps or work

[@Aslash304]

I appreciate your feedback, and I understand your point of view. The video shows all the steps for educational purposes. I feel the exact same way about oil changes. I’m also showing an audience that is likely to be first time EV owners some of the thought processes involved. My editing could also be poor.

[@bobby45]

Tesla owner since 2019 now also have a prologue it’s horrifying how bad the infrastructure is on non Tesla HORRIFYING in would say road tripping in my Tesla was on par or even easier than ICE i wouldn’t dare in my prologue

[@Aslash304]

The Prologue can use the Supercharger network. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnKaeYt-nbdrgqMsi=Rv-m2PzYhThWqAak check this one out.

[@jk.2994]

evs are good for local driving

[@Aslash304]

They are good for road trips too. It just takes experience

[@melvinholland9656]

My goodness, mainstream America will never embrace EVs with all the nonsense you experienced. DCFC a Tesla or Rivian is nothing like all the tribulations you faced. The Prologue route planning, navigation and range is weak. 50kW charging is Bolt-like. Hard pass on this EV.

[@Lightdog555]

Well it is a GM product so the comparison to the Bolt isn’t too far off

[@darren6110]

​@@Lightdog555he only has the prologue because honda threw him a lifevest by taking his fisker on trade in. He made the right call. Next ev will probably by a tesla or rivian. I wouldn't touch anything else.

[@Aslash304]

Yep. It’s trash. Better than a Fisker, though.

[@kickinitcountry4474]

@@Aslash304 I LOVE the Prologue! It’s a great car!

[@travisli-rufus1949]

$0.56 per / kWh, that's pretty expensive

[@Aslash304]

It’s how much Superchargers cost as well, and EA is very often this expensive. EVGo is right around the same price, plus $0.99 connection fee.

[@wardpaine8194]

Wow

[@Aslash304]

Thanks for watching

[@jesseh.5141]

Why not just charge it up to 100% the first chance you get? I don't get it....

[@Aslash304]

I’ll address this in an upcoming video.

[@jeremyh9174]

Feel like you were significantly more harsh with the fisker than you were with the honda here.

[@Aslash304]

Maybe that’s because the Fisker ate its mudflap and turned on the rear reading lights for an hour in the back seat while my son was trying to sleep, my wife had to punch them to get them to go off

[@jeremyh9174]

@@Aslash304 I guess those are annoying, but I feel like functional issues such as charging and navigating are worse, considering it impacted you actually getting somewhere in a reasonable time.

[@Aslash304]

@@jeremyh9174the Ocean navigated me to a non-functional fast charger amongst a literally sea of charging options.

[@rockymntdan1]

Just demonstrating why I won't buy these PIA's. My plug-in clarity is as close as I want to become to this hassle. Can't wait for Toyota or others to release better tech than this electric junk. But I have the feeling the "powers" won't allow that to happen.

[@Aslash304]

Understandable.

[@TheGovernment-ry2hj]

Wow what a cognitive load! I enjoy the gamification and 'nerd numbers' my Prius generates but sometimes you need to be able to just drive and it seems like unless you have the right lifestyle or the infrastructure gets substantially better it's going to be a hard sale. I suspect I'd feel bad for the health of my battery only fast charging it but equally want to be anywhere but staring at battery percent and being stuck near fast food for hours.

[@Aslash304]

It definitely sounds like you’re not ready for an EV.

[@RusF-tq1jy]

Efficiency and charging speed looks same with Fisker Ocean Not better car. For example 2023-2024 ID4 has Efficiency 3.4-3.5 mile/Kwh Tesla Y - 3.8-3.9 mile/Kwh. Second can add charging speed in this cars better too. 170-200 KwH

[@Aslash304]

All accurate. Remember, the measured efficiency in this video was at 70 mph. I threw out all the other efficiency data from the trip. My lifetime efficiency in the prologue is exactly 3.4 miles per kWh. The Prologue does have Apple CarPlay, adaptive cruise, one pedal driving, cup holders that actually hold normal size cups, a warranty, an existing company, and existing service centers. The lights in the back don’t come on randomly, it never rolls backwards, you don’t ever have to touch the brake pedal except to change gear or park, and it also comes standard with 2 key fobs. All the AC vents in the Prologue work, the mud flaps don’t eat themselves, and the resale value is quite a bit better, but, I respect your opinion about the Ocean. It does look cool.

[@RusF-tq1jy]

@@Aslash304 I totally agree about vehicle build Quality in Honda better than Fisker. Fisker is experimenting company. My vision Fisker good but if price for this vehicle will 15-17k. About Honda Prologue, we can say this GM platform. My vision they needs more work with electric motors And efficiency. I owned 23 ID4 AWD and my efficiency 3.4-3.5mile/kwh on highway with speed -70miles

[@Aslash304]

@@RusF-tq1jythe Prologue is 12 inches longer and 6 inches wider than the ID4.

[@leonelrocha1024]

What a headache!

[@Aslash304]

I wanted to share every aspect of an EV road trip so people will know what to do.

[@knnywng678]

Honda lover here. But wont buy this just because its partner with GM. What a bad and dumb move Honda, I'm sure many Honda lovers feel this way :(

[@Aslash304]

I’m a big Honda fan too. I drove only Honda for my personal vehicle up until 2021. Honda’s worst move was abandoning EV architecture research and development. They are so far behind, they had to hire GM to build something for them. I bought the Prologue to tell Honda that EVs are the way forward. I’ll never buy another gas Honda.

[@ericgregori]

Do the same with a Tesla. It is so much easier with a Tesla. People do not want EVs, they want a Tesla.

[@Aslash304]

I have owned 3 Teslas. The charging is easier. That’s why there’s no need to make videos about them charging

[@jeremyh9174]

i wonder if you could say tesla a few more times.

[@supertec2023]

Here's something like to bring about this EV in particular. If somebody has worked on Hondas for over 30 years I've been conscripted to work on this vehicle. I've never been a general motors technician and now you've thrown a general motors vehicle at me that is electric. My complete training is about 10 online tests and one class for about 6 hours where I learned to pull codes. When these cars come in which I've had a few of them pulling a code is an adventure because their scan tool is web-based only. When it doesn't work you have to try over and over to get it to sync to the vehicle and then when you get the codes sometimes you're not sure what you're looking at because again I'm not a general motors technician and general motors has a complete way of doing things and it's very difficult to figure this stuff out along with the parts catalog and service manual so say what you want about the vehicle we have an extremely hard time fixing them looking at parts and get information we need to attempt a repair. So keep that in mind when you buy this vehicle.

[@Aslash304]

I really appreciate this feedback