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[@william0j]

I played Archeage from Launch, and still to this day the most fun I've ever had in any MMO. Every time I am remembered of the game I get a mix of Nostalgia, Sadness, Anger and Dissapointment.

[@AndyPlaysAllNight]

I still remember at launch where there were areas where a quest mob would spawn, but would spawn only one at a time, so people formed a line for it 🤣

[@toratheexplorer8207]

I started playing it again on a private server rather do that than give money to dogshit publishers

[@internaut4257]

I have great memories shipping crates in my hauler

[@AndyPlaysAllNight]

@@internaut4257 i remember convoys waiting for peace by Ynystere, sometimes playing chicken right before it hit peace 😆 And that going backwards on the blue donkey with a trade pack would move faster than going normally.

[@73delgado]

whats angerness?

[@rice7447]

Archeage on release was the best MMO I have played. If it wasn't ran over with monetization and getting stripped down of fun activities it would have been so good for a long time.

[@wewoweewoo]

@@smiIingman Played it on release and it was my first mmo ended sorely dissappointed sadly tho

[@Ryan-pl4eu]

Running packs via ship with a whole guild was amazing

[@Oxmosh]

@@Ryan-pl4eu Yup ive never experienced something like this. I was not even in a ugild the first time, some random people were helping me and another random, and it was sooooooo cooll

[@Exel3nce]

had that with blade n soul. man was it good on release

[@rice7447]

@@Ryan-pl4eu yup, that was super fun. I also had a fishing boat which was super fun. I'd also like to hang out near spots people would gank ships and pick up stranded packs that may have fell to the bottom of the ocean.

[@MMOGrind]

ArcheAge was the best MMO created outside of WoW completely destroyed by monetization.

[@Nope_Nope-]

Archeage is a self cannablizing game. I was one at the highest gs possible on my server on unchained for about a year (f2p mind you couldn’t really P2w on unchained unless you rmt’d) I could go on for hours how it was my favorite game of all time and nothing else will ever satisfy the itch of raid v raid pvp. But I could go on for many more hours on how bad the game was and how it basically just eats itself alive only to create a new fresh start server that eventually catches up and has to emerge with the other severs to continue.

[@SaintOfFire]

@@Tailionis let's not compare an open sandbox mmorpg with multi-player and social game designs ranging from a 500 person 3 way fight over a giant open world raid boss, even at sea on dozens of player owned galleons, to a law and punishment system where you are held on trial by a jury of your own fellow players; to a "mmo" where the peak social content is role-playing as a cat girl in an instanced town.

[@SaintOfFire]

@@Tailionis it's literally still fully in development and the newest server was last week

[@SaintOfFire]

@@echero2449 yes, I meant that it is still getting regular updates and content patches.

[@drooskie9525]

@@Tailionis FFXIV has completely dogshit combat that literally puts people to sleep sometimes. the crafting system is notoriously bad. there's a reason social role-play is the main content for people.

[@xyludexaalud]

The best part of archeage wasn't even the ocean combat or housing. By far the best part was the actual class system, the fact that you could mix and match various stuff to make a very unique build was my favorite part of the game. So far I haven't seen any game actually do this as well as archeage did it.

[@Brade]

I was in Steven's guild (his nickname was Sorcerer) White Order up until they made ArcheAge beyond irredeemable and quit. He ran a pretty amazing guild, he ran it like a corporation. He'd even fly out all of his officers out for a party every year in I think vegas. He'd throw around insanes amounts of money to take care of things, it was unlike any guild or clan i'd ever seen before.

[@DarkGomito]

Wait till virtual reality becomes the protagonist we'll see Steven running guilds as corporations in Metaverse 🤣

[@OryxAU]

He was a whale who used the monetisation to buy his guild to the top. I remember White Order all too well.

[@warghosty]

I was a part of the Tea Time for Kittens merge with White Order, where we made one Nation together. It always blew me away that Steven had an almost "DKP" like system in the guild where the highest prize was an all expenses paid trip to Las Vegas. It was insane.

[@depressedonion5610]

Even though I was never in his guild, I always went against you guys and had really good PvP with everyone. We only had a hard time keeping up because we were sure that he was doing the P2W and helped some of his close friends. Good time all around though.

[@Ryan-pl4eu]

He had his own GM Contacts at Archeage as he spent so much money, I’m pretty sure he said he spent $70,000 on his character 😂

[@AnnaDolphin97]

This actually made me cry.. as sad as it is.... i spent many years in this game, went through all the drama with greedy publishers etc, watched them ruin my world... so many friends... so many memories.... fack...😥

[@Dragens2]

after lineage 2 this game hooked me for the first time again and then everything went to shit :

[@itwashear]

I teared up as well during the flashback part this game was just to good at bringing people together some of the best memories I have was just having 30-50 people on there tractors on follow and just hanging out on voice stopping every 5 min when last half of the train got stuck on a rock

[@makishae9811]

Man I was there on launch day, players to the left and to the right as far as my potato pc could render them, 25 fps glory watching people rush to get quests done and surprisingly I was faster than a lot of people which made me feel good for like 5 seconds. by the next month came arround I wasnt interested in the game, but I'm glad to have gotten that experience on launch. It was crazy.

[@franklinturtleton6525]

I remember playing Archeage like 6 years ago, maybe? Really cool design. I specifically remember I encountered an illegal tree farm, some guy was trying to get the lightning struck tree lumber shit for the motorized skateboard mount. So, naturally, i started cutting down his trees. He found me and got pissed, screaming "BRO THESE ARE MY FUCKING TREES! FUCK OFF!" and I just ignored him and kept cutting his shit down. He decided he would race me and cut down his other trees before me so i would eventually run out of stuff to steal. Unfortunately for him, one of his trees DID get struck by lightning, the one he was standing at, and it killed him. So i stole his lightning struck tree lumber, made my own skateboard and sat there, waiting for him to return. When he saw me, I assumed he started typing out some explative-laden epilogue and I just rode off.

[@sirringus]

i got sent to jail for stealing someone's trees 🤣

[@Rialtan]

I remember planting a shit ton of trees in the most impossible spots in the map and somehow someone would always find them xD

[@MrAdemptio]

I miss ArcheAge so much. After I played WoW I found ArcheAge and I must say both games are my favorite MMO's... Kakao does offer Fresh start servers... but it is such a mess. Like many people, if they did a non P2W ArcheAge Vanilla (first version of it, it would actually be really good)

[@ricflair8907]

Archage had a good chance to be really good but the monetization they went with crushed the game with no survivors lol

[@MrFive2FiveVods]

i really do miss OG archage so much :(

[@garuda4361]

Archage was pretty trash compared to OG Aion. Og Aion was the best pvp MMORPG ever made.

[@abahgaming2143]

I do miss AA too, met a lot good friends from that game, we all move on and playing other games or mmos however there is nothing alike Archeage where we wars and plunders other players for days and days, its was fun but its died with greedy devs and publishers. I wish there will be Archeage without MTX in it.

[@ricflair8907]

@@garuda4361 that.. lol.. comedy.

[@KoyFoster]

Peon did a good job of pointing out the bad of AA, but he didn't even talk about the class system. The class system is always what got me addicted thinking about what builds I could make. I would absolutely love a game with WoW fantasy vibes with Archages gameplay and class system. AA has the best game feel of any tab targeting game I've ever played.

[@davidphantom7350]

Archeage was amazing... wish they didn't ruin it. 😪

[@Finicky9]

It actually broke my heart, it was so good

[@Kujamon]

Oh I loved Archeage. I remember when a lightning struck the first tree I planted in front of my house and the lightning burnt wood made me filthy rich

[@ExaltedwithFail]

Met my wife on Archeage. Was rank 12 in europe at one point in gear score and guild leader of one of the top guilds. I can say the game was the best MMO ive ever played for the community and style but the thing that killed it was the lack of updates and the updates that did come were aimed at the top 1% of players, which while fine for a few, caused servers to be dominated by 1 guild each and nobody else had access to anything. Shame it wasnt loved more.

[@QuantumFitnessMindset]

Look i have like 8 friends that got married and met on archeage. Crazy LOL

[@lufasumafalu5069]

your wife a guy who play female avatar ?

[@ExaltedwithFail]

@@lufasumafalu5069 I feel you are projecting lol. Don't worry dude, you will find a woman one day as well.

[@ExaltedwithFail]

@@QuantumFitnessMindset my guild had 3 couples come from it. 2 are living together last I heard. Crazy how many people met in that game

[@lufasumafalu5069]

@@ExaltedwithFail dont worry kid , you are free to made up stuff in youtube comment section. after all you need the attention here since you cant get it in real life

[@CidLufaine]

the one thing i really miss that archeage had was the naval combat. some of the best fun ive had in an mmo easily.

[@katsu9582]

Oh yeah Kraken pvp and Abyssal PVP was so good back then, today its just freefarm for whatever Nation is the biggest x) 3.0 was best

[@nxamaya]

I made my best MMO memories on Archeage, the possibility for player driven interactions is just crazy, riding your little car running a trade run to Solis while some dude is trying to tow their clipper into land and a ton of other funny shit, it was not like every other god damn theme park MMO out there, and it still remains unique in that way.

[@lordfarquard52]

I actually pulled a clipper to the top of the mountain in the harbor once

[@qaywsxedcrfvful]

i pulled a clipper on top of that tower in marianopel haha

[@Alynis_]

I really enjoyed this game when it came out up until I paid for a membership. You needed to be a member to get a house, and it was really the only reason to become one, yet there was zero housing available that wasnt being sniped by bots. Every inch of land was bot owned a few months in.

[@ManOfLegs]

The first 2 months of ArcheAge Unchained were truly phenomenal. Such a quality experience navigating through the grind, picking fights, avoiding scuffles, obtaining land and dabbling with trade. Rest in peace, cactus market. It carried my F2P pockets far enough to keep up with the best. Always worth giving this game a shot whenever it *rereleases,* with a few friends with time. Though it will always be dominated by whales and students with lots of time. The formula is never built to last.

[@Dryaxx]

I played ArcheAge a lot during the Alpha and Beta stages, and it was a wonderful game. Sadly it started going downhill the day it launched officially, which was a right shame, because it had some great ideas and mechanics to it.

[@faowin9112]

Dude same! Me and one other person in my friend group got into the alpha/beta and played it a ton and hyped it up for everyone. The day of the launch, I get into Teamspeak and get all excited and ask what server we're playing on and my friends just say "I hate to tell you....but nobody is going to be playing ArcheAge. They made some changes over night." I was devastated.

[@josephschultz6750]

Archeage OG was the best experience in MMOs no contest. Sad Asmon will never experience it.

[@MrKrabbs2009]

Game's basically a daily quest simulator at this point. Played it for a year 10hrs/day 2020-2021, capped at like 18800 gs full immortal warden armor+hiram rifle, left, haven't been happier.

[@MrKommienezuspadt]

Imagine if they came out with a non-p2w, no multiaccount (has to be done if labor system doesn't change), fresh start, vanilla Archeage server. That would be fucking massive.

[@miorion5964]

@@RuecianGray Unchained wasn’t vanilla, it started on patch 3.0 or something, and they said people could have up to three accounts. The main difference was that the cash shop was much less p2w with only cosmetics and it was buy to play.

[@Broomtwo]

I was like 16 in 2014, and I wasn't really as clued-in on how to properly play MMOS back then, so I kind of played this game super casually and had no clue about any pay to win or hype surrounding it, I just made a character and leveled up because a couple of my friends were playing it. I guess I played around its launch, and I had a lot of fun leveling. I don't remember any specifics about it really, I just remember the world looked interesting, the open-world pvp was a lot of fun, and the leveling process was enjoyable for me. I think I spent more time open-world PVP'ing than I did anything else really. I ended up quitting before I hit max level I think, because my friends stopped playing. Honestly I wish a game could re-create some of the fun aspects of Arche Age, without all the detrimental economy and pay to win issues. I suppose Ashes of Creation is trying to do something like that, so I am pretty excited for that game.

[@Wheathn]

"If they did a fresh start I'd play it" -literally 1 week after the newest fresh start launched.

[@GreatBigBagOfDouche]

Anytime I see "Archeage" I'm always sent into 1-2 days of mental nostalgia and blissful reminiscing of the best months in an MMO I've ever had. Then 1 day of anger, confusion and emptiness for what they did to it. Then Ashes of Copium comes and holds me and says "Everything will be alright, probably"

[@Jason-993]

The main issues with archeage was never discussed in the video. It didn't die because there were p2w aspects it died because: All its content was grind to grind more. Nothing else. Its crafting was hyper garbage gambling. The gameplay was amazing but that was all there was to it.

[@seifeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

I'm never gonna be tired of saying it: Archeage was one of the best MMOs out there. Because of how making money worked, there was always some world pvp involved. It didn't matter if you were just fishing, doing some packages, dailies, treasures or w.e, at any moment, anyone, friend or foe could grief you and that made it so fun. The community was so alive due to this interactions and it was hilarious everytime some drama went down. Have a ton of memories of this game. Never forget my tidal house in Sanddeep. Best zone i ever put my house in, with easy access to fishing plus being a gorgeus zone to look at.

[@gortex123]

ArcheAge is honestly one of the games I've had the most fun playing at launch. That game was just a lot of fun when started it at launch, it had a lot of great features in it, loved having a house there, working on professions, the community was pretty good too, guilds where just great there, a lot of working together, gathering up, and doing trade runs, wow that was just so much fun. Making good trade packs to carry with on the trade runs, like traveling across the ocean to make the most money, though a lot of risk too.

[@DeadmanWonderland-ue8zu]

You could still play this with custom boosts and events on Archerage in a few months they will be adding spelldancer. If you do play don't forget to say hi to the deadmanwonderland guild

[@Xxp0r]

1:05 the irony of Steven (Sorcerer) saying this, which I assume is about sieges because that was always his biggest complaint. First, the castles his guild had was from the initial resource event where he purchased resources from other guild members at a premium who were meant to be using them for their own guild. Second, he would bid on Siege scrolls so that no other guilds could attack him. Finally, when people were able to afford the Siege scrolls he kept bidding up, he lost all his castles in 100v100 and didn't even attempt to siege people back. But perhaps it is this very game design that he is against, despite partaking in it. I do wish him and his team all the best in their endeavor and hope that their game is a huge success just the same.

[@Azmodious78]

I was in Stephen's ArcheAge Guild. It's a story of so much hope to end in heartache.

[@sanshou4927]

Loved this game during launch, it he a community that reminded me of Vanilla WOW. Players became mercenaries, pirates or protected their realm... so much Nostalgia :(

[@thegeneralg4792]

Archeage was the best game i ever played

[@miL7zy]

Archeage was so much fun to play. The late nights with the guild always having something to do was a ton of fun.

[@Goneth]

Archeage was fantastic because it had legitimate and useful supports that were not healers but crowd controllers or buffers. The bard build here was the absolute most fun and only true bard experience I've ever had in any game.

[@MrMhtmht]

If you played Aion back in 2009 that's when the graphics were insane for the time. 2014 is actually pretty late for these graphics.

[@Desmuu]

I'm so glad other people remember this game. I never meet anyone that even knows what it is.

[@quagsir-behattedbloboftheu5051]

I played Archeage during the beta, nearly a decade ago at this point, and I was in my teen years having pretty much stopped playing WoW during Mists of Pandaria. I was on a terrible laptop and I struggled to play Archeage at even 20 fps. And yet, it still sits heavy in my mind with nostalgia and what could have been. It was so incredibly good and yet it was just run into the ground. I was a teen with a laptop that could barely run the damned game and yet I still loved it to bits. I remember building my own tiny little house. I remember building a boat and going on my first voyage. I remember stealing someone else's crops. And I remember just stopping play, because it was just saturated with P2W bullshit. I'm one of those people who look back at Archeage and what could have been one of the greatest MMOs ever to grace us with its presence. And yet it was ruined. They struck gold, smelted it into a platter and served shit to us.

[@dameonk]

For me personally, the biggest issue was not being able to get a house because of the house placing bots. They were able to place a house before the UI even updated to say the land was available. This basically iced out everyone that had progressed to the point in the game where a large house was necessary to progress. The last straw was opening the cash shop to rare farm items, like the thunderstruck tree branch. This killed public farming overnight, making the game completely pointless to play.

[@Orasuna_1409]

I absolutely loved archeage right up until a threshold of my guild left due to p2w, with 2 gallons 3 trade ships and lots of land travel it was epic af, but after dying 5v1 enough times you just lose interest...

[@RoryA-v2k]

11:09 LMAO ASMONS FACE

[@cmeckz3554]

I played Archeage for nuuumerous years, starting again really with all the new fresh start servers and actually was in an opposing guild against Steven. People made and always used anywhere between 2-10 alts to bypass that labor. Archeage literally has SOOOOOO MUCH potential with the naval battles, World bosses, open world PvP, player housing, and farming. Archeage Unchained DID bring no gain by real life money, but those that could create and take the time to utilized alt accounts did 100%. The guild drama that happened, especially with everything that went down with Steven, was and will be a very good memory of mine, though it happened years ago.

[@Chrisdena_]

At least I had a a hell of a Trion's PAX Prime Party. All you can eat buffet and a really open and loose bar. I was excited to see the sneak peak of the game, when it came out and played ArcheAge it tripped and fall into lava and tried to crawl out.

[@aleXtreme_]

To be honest, I would love to watch Asmon play ArcheAge. This game is any streamer wet dream along with the audience. Just so much fun man

[@WhatBeDaPointMon]

ArcheAge was the best during closed beta and early early release, pvp and griefing fishing boats was so damn fun. The amount of pure chaos, hate mail, stealing trade packs and diving off cliffs to summon your little skiffy boat, stealing from illegal tree farms, dropping from the sky on your glider to backflip + fireball + staff thrust into people and smack the daylights out of them, complaints sent to your guild leader because you killed same faction, the carebears made that game way more fun than it should have ever been. It was the absolute best, then they started selling thunderstruck tree seeds, I saw the writing on the wall and fucked right off.

[@thischannelisnotmine]

I wish I could link you the clip from a friend in my guild that pays to win super hard on Archage, its possible to kill him but he had a clip of him dropping onto a ship and killing 20+ people solo almost instantly, archeage probably has some of the most fun pvp I've ever played tbh

[@BrTriCosta]

shoutout to the south americans who played this game. My cousin shouting in Portuguese, then spanish , then english coordinating raids, with slang at 1am brings me memories.

[@panclaws1]

The raids in this game were some of my fav. this was my first mmo that i played and back in late 2014 - early 2015 i was hooked. tried my own clan for a while and when that didnt work i ended up joining a larger one called Angels of Death for a while. god that was fun.

[@silentfox410]

Made some awesome memories with ArcheAge. Never forget the awesome traderuns and naval battles

[@tech6294]

11:08 LMFAO!!!!!! A TIER...... 🤣

[@simen2032]

archeage and archeage unchained will merge 30th november into one server on each region. hopefully that makes it more active for a while.

[@jamesislegna]

man when AA came out it was was rough but was the best mmo i ever played period. this was until merge happened. brings back sooooooooo many great memories.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

So having lived in Japan for a few years I played ArcheAge a year or so before it came out in the US. It was a lot of fun and besides your standard gatcha like gambling for cosmetic items there was no true P2W that I remember for things like resources. I think they still had a labor point refresh pot but I don't recall having the thunderstruck log item thing that I believe NA had. It honestly felt like the publishers were the one to run it to the ground, not so much the game itself. But man it was so much fun even in NA. A game that had so much potential that ended up dry.

[@daedthedk]

Honestly archeage was an amazing game. I was part of a guild that ended up allying with a guild from the other faction in a neutral zone and we stopped nearly all conflict in the zone. We were some pretty strong guilds and rarely had issues. I learned the other faction's language and was able to communicate with them in game and it opened up diplomacy. It was such a unique experience and for the duration of me playing we kept the peace and rarely had any problems outside of randoms that would come in and start trouble. Again we were strong guilds and squashed any problems quickly. To this day I have NEVER experienced something like that in any other mmo. (shout out to my Celestial homies)

[@Smarglenargle]

played archeage for 3 years, my favorite part of the game was the mml music system. turn midis into code and play it on instruments. very niche but very rewarding.

[@lukemus401]

there'd always be that 1 dude in the raids everyone would crowd around and be amazed by ahhaha

[@cddino]

Had so many good memories of ArcheAge. I remember hitching a ride on another player's trade ship to get to the enemy faction's continent, was sneaking around trying to steal the mounts and pets of the other faction because I wanted them.

[@scottcavill4807]

Archeage and Warhammer. Oh the memories.. 😢

[@inc0rect2011]

I remember the candle gate in A-Unchained. Where you have to click a candle for a mainquest and only one can do (not even party can) and it had a 5min cd to click again. Many player die in this little hut and many player ragequit

[@PawanM]

Fresh Start just happened.

[@tobidobidu1129]

Archeage is the only MMO that has kept my interest. I don't usually like MMOs at all. But I do enjoy having specific job-classes and I also like writing music as a hobby. So when I heard that Archeage has a musician-job that features Notesheets based on MML format, I tested it. I have now played the game for about 3 years and have not done a single boss, raid or PvP match. And I enjoy it. Because all I do is transcribe music and play it around in town and to friends.

[@JROCThaGreat]

Yeah Archage broke my heart as well, it had soooooo much potential. It crazy cause if they drop the labor gate it would actually pop off

[@Telgar78]

man i miss this game , played it for 7 years. but after all that time it was only the p2w players that were left ,everyone else quit makes me sad

[@pkthtguy587]

launch was lit AF me and the boys 10 of us played it and it was amazing

[@wildcat31772]

Archeage on release was already shit. The Alpha was where it was at. Trion kneecapped it on release

[@mannymcgee1317]

I remember finding niche traderuns combined with playing insane amounts making me rank 7 in vanilla but by then enough players had quit that trino decided to allow alts and guys started running 7 haulers in a row and you were forced to get alts for more gold

[@thepotatowarrior2890]

I played Archeage from launch for 2 years always f2p, it was my first mmo. Yes the labor points were a bummer, but we could actually grind in game to pay for our game subscription (wich was not mandatory but had significant advantages mainly with labor point regeneration). And overall altough alot of people cheesed the labor point system with multiple accounts it was a good way to balance the resource values, if only people ever played something like its supposed to and not try to exploit every single aspect to get ahead. I eventually made a second account of my own just for those extra points mainly to pay for my property's taxes. And another cool aspect was you could form a family with friends and share land this way, so that extra char I had was basically the Family's steward who existed simply to pay the property taxes (payed for with laborpoints) of all the land our "family" had. And to this day we still reminisce on how great of a game archeage was, and how much better it could have been.

[@mikem7979]

Archeage at its release was the best. it truly felt like you could do so many things...wanna create a business empire...go for it...be a pirate to gank packs from the enemy AND your own faction....do it....slowly build yourself into a raid boss tank toon...yep.....and then over time they fixed literally 0 problems that plagued it and slow stripped all of its sandbox feeling away. now people just log in to do dailies/weeklies and go paly something else. man we need a true AA classic...i really wish the PS rage would do a new AA server from the beginning.

[@ohplease587]

OMG, I loved Archage. The day it was released the lines and wait times to get in the game was INSANE. I relate to the anger and mourning comments. Memories of everyone wanting to smoke the Laughing Coffins. LOL.

[@SimonJones265]

Lol we used to call it Altage as everyone seemed to have 3+ alts. Played it for many years had heaps of fun.

[@cajju]

im so glad to played archeage on gold days man, best mmo design, so complete, ahead of the curve, none mmprg got close to this masterpiece, its like just a few ppl could experience those days, and who could, will say the same thing i did

[@TheMegalusDoomslayer]

Don't forget that Trion was acquired by Gamigo. Mixing Gamigo and Kakao is one hell of a combination.

[@mcgeorgeofthejungle6204]

Original Archeage was great, I bought the top tier offering, however... one thing was clear... the whole land lease system was flawed... script bots were snapping up land that was about to come available due to players not paying the tax. If they had fixed that it would have been top notch. Best Character Creation ever.

[@TheAliceQuo]

I played archage from launch. I logged over 10k hours in the game. You wanna know what really killed it? The auroria patch. Claiming a castle on the auroria patch would basically guarantee the guild that claimed it hundereds of thousands of gold/month in taxes from the people who would be placing land because there was literally no where else in the entire game to secure new protected land for yourself. The only way to claim a castle was with a special trade pack that required extremely high skills and special equipment to craft. Gathering the resources for these packs took hundereds of players 8+ hours, you then had to portal back across the ocean, craft the pack, then travel by ship across the entire ocean with a convoy to protect you. Once landed you had to travel far inland walking slowly with 10s of other guild trying to kill you, you then had to channel a spell for 10 full minutes on s magical stone using the pack you crafted. While doing this, you had to rely on your guild to protect you from everyone else. Devs were literally caught taking bribes in the 10s of thousands of dollars to secure castles for guilds by disconnecting enemy guild pack carries on their way to claim castles in auroria. Because of how full the servers were, if you got disconnected, you would basically be done with no hope of getting back in until the castles were all claimed. There were only 3 castles to claim. After this all came out, there was a massive uproar, people were fired, and the community was pissed. However, there was no server rollbacks. Trion outright refused to rollback servers to give everyone a fair chance. Forest Crow, one of the most notorious whale guilds in the game was on my server. They managed to secure TWO castles that day by paying off devs, their sister org at the time, Sugoi, claimed the other. To make up for not roling back servers, Trion decided the best course of action was to feed the wales even more. They added some of the rarest crafting materials in the game to the cash shop and patted themselves on the back. 10s of thousands of people quit the game after that. Within a few months, there was hardly anyone anywhere on any server. Today if you log in, you'll be lucky to find anyone around doing anything. It's basically just OSRS Ironman mode now which is really unfortunate because a massive portion of the game relies heavily on having large numbers of people to take down the insane world bosses and complete the epic quests in end game.

[@MrRazor1834]

I played in alpha and this was a great game. It died when they added the thunder struck tree to the cash shop and the multi accounts moved in before that good times.

[@iMyThlc]

It was a very fun game. I did all end game content in archeage, castle sieges, kraken, (north america games first red dragon kill) etc etc. The world pvp on this game was absolutely amazing.

[@depressedonion5610]

Archeage was one of the best mmos ever made. The gearing, naval combat, the pvp/combat, pirate/player factions, ganking pack runners, the leaderboards, the illegal farms. This game had so much potential and could have made so much more if they fixed these issues. It's honestly heartbreaking.

[@xReservedLogic]

I've played so many MMOs and by far ArcheAge has given me the most memorable memories I will never forget. Making good friends, good pvp, chill farming, pirating, or even tension when running packs thinking about being ganked. I've never felt that with any other MMO. I do miss ArcheAge a lot and wish it didnt take the P2W route and all the dumb mistakes.. a lot of good times and memories from that game...and knowing Steven comes from that game and the flaws it had, I do have a lot faith in Ashes of Creation. Been following it in depth and cant wait to try it out

[@TwoHams]

Archage was so good. I called out of work because a fight over the kraken lasted over 12 hours. Trion was dumb as hell. When they put the lootboxes in the shop that gave you whatever the lightning struck logs were called the game died out quick because the economy crashed.

[@VioletMoonfox]

Wait, what happened to the old class system where you choose three subclasses from a long list to make a unique class out of them?

[@victoriapschen]

I played archeage for half a year when it first launched and it was definitely the best and most immersive mmo experience I’ve ever had. It almost felt like it was not real. However it did not take long for the pay to win aspect and the cheating to ruin the experience. Really tragic.

[@Seanidor]

I hated the labor system in ArcheAge. My favorite activity in the game was exploring and gathering whatever I found, chopping trees, mining stuff, gathering herbs, and so on. The problem was that once I ran out of labor I couldn't do that anymore. I'd switch over to killing mobs since at least that doesn't cost labor, but the chest things they dropped required labor to open as well. It felt like almost everything cost labor in the game, it was just a horrible design.

[@CIrAzYIX]

Seriously, I didn't even play a lot of Archeages content. But the fking FISHING was SOOO GOOOD I literally was ONLY fishing for hours and hours every day. I loved the idea of fishing on a giant ocean with the risk of some other player stealing your boat. We even did fishing raids and if the other nation came there was a big pvp battle on the open sea and it was just awesome! The Idea that your boat or something else can be stolen (for a limited amount of time) by the enemy faction was just awesome. Never had so much fun doing stupid stuff (like fishing) in an mmo EVER.

[@bridles100]

12:45 Oh christ, Jigzaw is back. 😬😬

[@cal2991]

Twitch and top creators are internally combusting and melting down with drama and Asmon j chillin 😎 hell yeah

[@Toll3Y]

I recently played ArcheAge Legacy with some friends, and ended up reaching the end game in around 9 months of grinding (the pvp end game content is fun, and very inclusive because numbers = win really). If you're interested in this game tho, I suggest you be a healer or tank, that way you don't need to grind as much as I did (Archer/Gunner when it came out). to be relevant, you can help out a lot earlier on if you're a tank, and it's a fun class too (pulling everybody, cc'ing all the big name dps boys) The ship/sea content is pretty good too, you can rob people on the oceans and such. It's fun, but just get in with one of the crowds on whichever side you choose early on, if you go to content then you will earn a payout of whatever rewards they get (daily/weekly bosses etc) and these reward splits really help you gear up quick, just have to consistently go and show interest, and people will help you.

[@SussBus]

I feel like the "Fresh Starts" are just them basically recasting the net, hoping to catch more whales every time

[@AManJumps]

i wish you would watch path of matth's video about that situation, he talks about it all straightforwardly. i kinda get how he felt.

[@Wheathn]

"Lazy Peon went really hard on this game I'm pretty sure" LOL he never even came close to experiencing the endgame. Context: ancestral 18 and 5.5k gearscore is like three days into the game. Not even high enough to queue for the daily instanced 100v100v100 pvp.

[@Kirinketsu_]

As always dude seems to get his info from Reddit. I rememeber the issues back when people first quit being the game was gatekeeped by the largest and most geared guilds, seeing how almost everything was GvG/PvP focus, and if you were not in the top 5 guilds you had no chance of doing or competing in "endgame" content.

[@Dashkon]

I played Arch-age when it was in it's Russian beta through VPN, we had a english guild called "rated Mature" , no cash shop, It was amazing, When it came to American servers, The cash shop was added and killed it.

[@madkat8918]

I remember killing our own healer outside of the dungeon for doing a bad job. It was hilarious.

[@marvingil1648]

The illegal trees and plantations I made on this game is border line crazy Lol! u had to wake up like it was work! time to harvest!

[@doomdude3034]

Archeage Unchained was some of the most fun I had in an MMO, for about a month till I needed to be away for a week and I was perpetually behind on gear score.

[@AnchorOwl]

Kooncoon was ArcheAge GOD "You no pay, you no win! It that simple! Look.... I pay..... NOW I WIN!" - Also if you did it right, you could landbaron and still only use 1 alt box to minimal usage / requirement and still ending up as top 50 geared in the US gearscore when it came out lol I was making nothing but upgrade prefix named gear and just buying resources while having multiple guilds run packs off the land I owned and having them pay rent.

[@susansucks9472]

Hero Wars is not only a game for children... it is also a game for predators..

[@greatdragon_nns]

this refresh my memories and its so sad to feel that im not playing it anymore, yet i know its not the game to play with those devs. (no other game can compete with archeage if its come with with proper devs)

[@TheTinyTimmyTimTim]

Archage was so pay to win, that a guy worth over $30 million played it and said “holy shit something needs to be done about this”

[@Azralynn]

The ArcheAge Alpha was better than the Beta, and was better than release, which was better than a bit after release when it got majorly P2W

[@dazemodzz2896]

i liked the elder schrolls online guild war 2, archeage looks good but i didnt tried yet. wish i had more free time like the old good days we were kids.

[@Redrum-707]

only cool stuff about archeage : cars,wagons,gliders,boats,ocean,islands,illegal farms,farming,trade paks,pirates . The Bad about archeage : just about everything else

[@filianofeyher]

7:24 this is actually sad.

[@MagpieSwoop]

The early days where guilds would fight over Kraken for sometimes days at a time. Sigh.

[@Stronghart]

1: A lot, almost all of the MMORPG out there are Pay 2 Win, Archeage didnt fail because of that. 2: Bot? Common man, if it was a huge problem we wouldn't have ANY online game since 1996. Trion did a decent job banning bot, myself could sent you a list of 40+ bots ive denounced on tickets and most of them were gone in 3~5 days (yes, 1 of these took a month to be banned and 2 videos to prove it was botting). 3: Labor aint a bottleneck for Gold grab, EVEN in Korea, Labor is just a system to force people that dont want to spend money to be wise, understand that the entry system to make money in the game was Pack, for and example, if you spent 50 labor to craft a pack, it could be traded for 4g or 20g depending on the route you're doing, and this same pack could value WAY more if you had guts to make dangerous routes, so you could like make this same pack that values 4g in a zone, worth almost 50g in another zone. So what Korean did when they didnt wanted all this work? Buy labor potions and deliver 5x more packs to get the same outcome someone get doing the dangerous routes. In western you didnt even had to buy labor for that, you could just make alt accounts and keep it Patron, so you could use the labor from theses accounts to increase the money income for a single account, and again, all of theses is just one of the ways to make money in the game, being wise, knowing what is the best places to invest you labor is always more lucrative than just doing "carebear" professions. I will tell you another thing, the best money outcome in Archeage doesn't even have to spend labor, World Bosses drops would give 1 to 60 days worth of gold grind with their drops, a Red Dragon glider when I was playing in 2016 worth 45K golds, I could grind like 3k brute gold in my best days (around 10% of it was used just for taxes or material cost). 4: Fresh Start servers for how Archeage works is one of the problems that made the game fail. Finally on right point. 5: Banning someone that public shows how to to do a exploit isn't in my POV a bad thing, in the release of the game some people learnt a way do dupe APEX (like WoW Token, note: WoW Token became because of success APEX made, fyi). And some people thought that post videos on how to make that would be better than using ticket system to inform Trion about that, guess what, I'm one of the guys that informed Trion about it using Tickets and how to do that, what they did to me? They just removed the Duped APEX, didnt get any prize, but didn't get punishment either. 6: Anyone, ANYONE that played endgame in Archeage know that cities in Archeage just get crowded when its about to start any timed event you gonna just see a few people that are either seeking for Duel or Just Afk after getting a Hero Call, the rest of the time people gonna be in their House zone, doing whatever they need to do, or hauling packs around the world, or grinding mobs at Auroria, or Fishing. -- Now, let me know the thing the REALLY made Archeage fails, and this is pure and simple: FRUSTRATION, or a stupid bad implement RNG system. Above i've said i had the means to get 3k gold day, for me to have this capacity took me almost a whole year of farming money to buy lands on one of the best zones in the game. So lets says a good and wise player take a quarter of my time to get the same outcome. When I was playing, the best Weapon a player could have was a Ayanad, this Weapon worth in the Grand or Rare grade, around 30k, that means 10 days of farming. But a grand Ayanad was almost the same power as the New Player set you received, so your damage would be as the same as someone who didnt spend any gold in the game, so what players wanted was Divine+ grade Ayanad, but that made the price up to 50k, so you needed around 18 days of farming. Yes, know you have a decent damage for a initial endgame PvP, but the rest of your gear, , think about 15 days of farming plus 7 pieces of set, plus 4 Accessories, plus instrument, plus gliders, plus Lunagems, and Tempers. Now, think that for a player that want to be decent in the endgame (not a cannon, just someone that could have a few chances to make out alive of a single combo). It would take around 4 to 6 months of grinding, that means almost a year of playtime just to get at the entrance of endgame. Pretty long, right? But you have a shorter way to do that, and that is: RNG, why buys a already made Divine Ayanad when I can simply make myself one? I mean, if I have luck i will just use around 800g in regrades tries to get myself a Divine, and around 12k to upgrade it from Basic weapon to Ayanad tier, so i can make in a quarter of the time, even on the worst situation i will can try to make 2 or 3 with a single day of gold farming... Yes, but actually no, when i'm talking about Divine, i'm just saying the Grade its the Entry o grade for Endgame and for a regrade to proc from Celestial to divine is around 4% chance w/o regrade charms, 96% of chance to break or Downgrade. That means that for every Divine Ayanad you see being used on a server, around 25 broke or downgraded, that means that a for the majority of the players out there, they spend more money trying their luck getting of cheap, than if they just farmed the whole amount and brought it already done. (Reminder: You cant actually get one already made in the game, you need a player to use the RNG system, get it by luck and selling it). Oh, and this is ONE of the RNG's systems in the game: Creating a Ayanad when i was playing weren't just upgrading a weapon to a stronger weapon or making it directly, you had to elevate the Weapon step by step, and you needed the right weapon suffix, but you could get 4~6 different suffix in your weapon, so to get a Ayanad weapon, on Grand or Rare gear, would mostly take a few dozens of crafted weapons too. Then you had to place lunagems in the weapon/gear, but PvP oriented lunagems would cost Honor (that you would get doing things related to PvP in any extent) or would cost pretty high for the player crafted one (2K to 4k) and guess what, it was RNG too, so if one of them fails, you lose all the another ones you already had success attaching (a weapon could attach 7 gems and only the 1st one had 100% success chance, the 2nd one was already 50% chance). Do you know a game that the best player know never got near close to have the best gear possible in the game? Archeage does, Ayanad exist since 2015, and even in 2024 no one ever achieved a Full mythic Ayanad gear (the best grade we could achieve in 2016) Yep, they made a few "corrections" in the time being, made new set that could be upgraded mostly without any RNG, but again, placed new RNG system to make this sets belong to different world depending on the luck (or real money invested). Most of the games out there, even being a F2P player, you can get a glimpse of the Endgame content most of the P2W players experience, Archeage you can also too, but depends on TOOOOOOO MUCH luck or too much work that most of the players simples get frustrated way before reaching the foot of that hill they could glimpse that Endgame. And thats why Archeage is sooo good for most of the player for the first month of the game than goes downhill when dominant players start getting their endgame gears.

[@Geminireaper53]

They just launched a fresh start