Asmon Plays Final Fantasy 16 | PART 5

[@spccew9818]

Anabella is such an amazing character. She did what no one else would. Killed herself.

[@harrysliyoko8809]

A true ltg follower .

[@rey8805]

not many have a giant brain like mine, but she definitely was hallucinated by Ultima to buff up Clive and take over his body. All good , tiny brain is a fate to many - no shame to that.

[@Kairamek]

At the end of the demo I called "this game's Cersei." I stand by that, and this Cetsei had a satisfying death.

[@spccew9818]

@@rey8805 takes a man with a huge brain, almost Trump like size brain, to subtlety insult the intelligence of others over a difference in opinion on a fictional character.

[@jabberwockld4316]

I am pettry sure everyone wanted to kill her

[@Cabrera_José]

For clarification, Olivier wasn't a fake kid. If you check the ATL it tells you that by the time of his death, there was little to nothing left of the kid in him, meaning he must've been a real boy before becoming possessed or corrupted.

[@manikatti5546]

I can't believe they made a gay character whose entire personality isn't being gay. In fact he's actually one of the best and most memorable characters in the game. Props to the writing team man.

[@Ilyak1986]

When I first saw that scene: "O_O...well...okay then. Good for him, good for him." But Dion stands out so much for me in that he's the only one that slugs it out with Clive's Ifrit and *still* has fight in him left--whereas Clive just steamrolls anyone else that forces Ifrit out.

[@oneofthekindscarf8612]

@Ilyak1986 Bahamut has always been known for being an abolsute beast in FF, and I'm glad that 16 didn't change that

[@SPERanger]

@@oneofthekindscarf8612somehow from the trailers I assumed bahamut would be weak compared to other games maybe because I assumed all eikon a would be equal in power. I was soo wrong

[@Sebdxdx]

my king

[@theghostofpennsylvania_11]

Yeah. Clive has became my favorite Final Fantasy protagonist.

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

Dion is such a great character. That scene in the throne room is one of the best in the game.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

Dion confronting his father in the throne room was perfect. It's my favorite scene in the entire game and rocketed up to being in my top 10 favorite video game scenes ever. What an amazing game. Starfield, Baldur's Gate 3, or Spider-Man 2 will have to be an absolute masterpiece to not make FF 16 be my Game of the Year. Edit: Welp, it turns out that Baldur's Gate 3 is an absolute masterpiece. lol Sorry FF16 but GOTY has to go to BG3. I still love ya tho!

[@LM-nb7rj]

Dion my king 😍

[@jacktonsauron8185]

​@@ThwipThwipBoomBG3 is not a masterpiece. Its just a copy of Divinity original sin 2 thats it. Just because it has more rpg elements doesn't make it goty. In fact this goty stuff is subjective too. Everyone has their own goty. Award show doesn't make sense.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

@@jacktonsauron8185 How can one person say so many dumb things in such a short time I wonder

[@XBladeVanitas]

@@jacktonsauron8185 Well BG3 just won GOTY in both the general award and player vote lol

[@KingPancakez]

The Bahamut arc is hands down the best part of the story. If FF16 wins best voice acting, it’ll because of the cutscenes in that arc.

[@RatchildUK]

Hell yea it is, I dare say it's probably my favourite section of gaming period.

[@SirFoxbutt]

It is for me too. The voice acting, the characters, the story itself, the boss fight, the reunion that has been building for the entire game... I can't express how quickly that arc flew up there in my favourite gaming moments. And I am a realistic person, I'm not in the pool of "FFXVI is the greatest game of all time", it has a lot of issues and things that bother me, but the characters and the voice acting has never ever been one of those things. The arc was phenomonal. That Bahamut fight really is the best boss fight in the game. I also love the meaning and power behind the fact that Dion is actually their half-brother now, (as is Olivier), since their mother married his father. So that entire moment (minus Jill) is actually all members of one family.

[@MaajidM]

I loved the Titan arc too much honestly, but Bahamut’s is definitely a very close second for me

[@awtodor]

nah the ending is the best 3rd act in FF imo

[@wulf2863]

odin was pretty good too

[@AndrewNajash]

I can see why so many people say this is their favourite fight. Without spoiling anything, I do think the last one is just as good, but Bahamut has so much history and is such a fan favourite that seeing him like this was always going to take the cake

[@Ilyak1986]

Ehhhhhh, the last fight felt like "they're trying to replicate the Bahamut fight but going a bit tryhard". Not to mention there's the lack of "we need to do this correctly and save Dion too". In contrast, the last fight just felt like "okay, and now we just go through the motions of the standard end boss."

[@lorencelaflair4306]

@@Ilyak1986 lol keep crying to compensate for your mental disabilities 😂

[@vincentsanabria]

Na Clive in the being cursing at him self trying to kill his own brother lol

[@platnumbreaker]

@@Ilyak1986 The entire 3rd act is a huge step down imo. Nothing comes close to Bahamut & Titian not even close.

[@kitaisuru]

Agree, as someone who haven't played FF14 I find Ultimalius to be way better.

[@TenchiSawada]

Dion is straight up my favorite character because he's extremely complex but also the get shit done type of dude.

[@Towelietowel]

When fighting Bahamut I was thinking, "How are they going to explain Dion losing his mind? I hope this has a satisfying explanation." Yup. That cutscene of Dion confronting his father is my favorite in the game so far.

[@what-tm2ow]

Yeah Dion is incredible in that scene. Makes sense why he snapped.

[@corwinchapman8270]

Dion was such a phenomenal secondary character! Incredibly tragic and stoic in a non-try hard way.

[@WispFigment]

I just finished the game last night. They did a great job with building Dion's character in the background of the main story. You can definitely see the GoT influence in this aspect

[@GhostWulf70792]

EDIT: OK i was completely wrong about this after doing his later side missions. The same reason why Joshua lost control during Phoenix Gate. These guys holding onto freaking nukes with a sensitive trigger. This godlike power packed into a human package.

[@stephenbeardslee9178]

Just finished it. Had to take a minute and sit with my thoughts afterwards. What an experience.

[@ian2714]

Dion is an example of a perfect gay character. He is gay and that's that. It's not his entire identity, it doesn't dictate every single decision he makes because there are a million bigger things going on. One of my favorite characters in the game, liked him from the moment he showed up until the end. Good job writers.

[@SleepyPupper]

One character I hope other writers take example from. I agree fully with what you said.

[@DerBunny]

Agree. I hope Hollywood would take notes. I love Dion so much. He is an awesome character that just happens to be gay, that is how it should be.

[@MoXy69YT]

Bro dion is a G. Probably my fav character too.

[@Mirage4492]

Or you guys prefer gay people that dont act gay right? Since Dion carries himself more like a straight male and hence wont be considered forcing gayness to other people lol

[@Yajirushi89]

@@Mirage4492 Liking dick doesn't mean you have to sashay around everywhere with a lisp and limp wrist. There is no such thing as 'acting gay,' in the way you are implying.

[@bcmspeed6917]

Not only was the fight a complete spectacle, they crushed the story arc surrounding it. I too was left speechless

[@RandalXVI]

Thats what makes these bosses so good: they all continue the story. This is how ive been asking devs to do for years. Engage the player even while the story is being told

[@zombie_dinosaur96]

I like how the best character in the game, Dion, is the only character thats like hey we should kill Annabella.

[@JStranger6292]

I kind of wish Annabella had a reaction to Clive becoming Ifrit. Would have been cathartic.

[@Rai98Chu]

I guess she breaking down is kinda the reaction to the whole situation

[@viviblackmage2326]

If only Annabella realized she gave birth to Mythos.

[@Gehenna94]

​@@viviblackmage2326*Logos

[@MythicAce218]

​@@viviblackmage2326I haven't played the older games(15 7remake and I have 12 just haven't got to playing it(after I finish this I want to go back and play all the older ffs. is there something speical about mythos?

[@DawnAfternoon]

Annabella is so evil she gave birth to literal Satan himself.

[@acronyx991]

Just to explain, that wasn't actually a fake kid. He was real, just completly corrupted by Ultima. The Active real time Lore explains it in more detail. That was Clives, Dions and Joshua's real half brother. But as we know those corrupted by Ultima like the Akashic disintegrate into dust instead of Dying like humans. It's not fully explained how he got corrupted but my explination would be that toy he carries around was slowly corrupting him and whispering thoughts in his ear his whole life. If you take a close look at that toy in cutscenes it would have glowing blue eyes just like Ultima.

[@Nick-ry4mk]

So what you’re saying is we watched Dion brutally impale a child on screen? Sick.

[@JohnnyRaven69]

@Nick-ry4mk Cry about it, lol.

[@KupoCafe]

i never noticed the glowing eyes before in the earlier cutscenes thats insane

[@TheMrCHELL]

​@@Nick-ry4mkAfter doing the same with his father.

[@Temperance_XVII]

⁠@@JohnnyRaven69your being toxic for no reason he didn’t even say anything bad about it

[@chaoticmuffin1538]

I am glad to see Yoshi and the team really knock it out of the park with this game. They really put Final Fantasy back on the map.

[@zerusdeus1960]

they went crazy with this if we compare ff16 to gow rag this id prefer ff

[@eltigreduarte8977]

@@MuraCasardisYoshi-P stated in an interview that, while not planned, they would absolutely do DLC if fans wanted it. He also stated there’s enough they could do with the world to make a direct sequel

[@WispFigment]

@eltigreduarte8977 I think they'll make a dlc in all honesty. There's quite a few directions they can take it in. I'm not quite sure I would want a whole sequel game, though

[@JungKooksTwin]

you mean TAKAI and the team.. lol

[@eltigreduarte8977]

@@WispFigment I wouldn’t mind a direct sequel tbh, Valisthea has been one of the more interesting FF setting in a while. If they did it would for sure need some QoL improvements though, and better side quests

[@calnus]

2:58:11 Clive delivery here is so good and with the expression that showed makes it perfect.

[@frostthrone334]

The music takes it to the next level too.

[@SPERanger]

This might be my favorite line read from Clive’s VA in the entire game and he’s pretty great throughout the game. But the way he went nuts here just underlines how important Joshua and keeping him safe is to him

[@immamlgproo]

I wish they showed anabellas reaction to clive being a dominant. and also her realising that if she never betrayed rosaria she would have 3 dominants lol

[@Artixes]

Karma always gets its way in the end

[@Theblackvortex75]

Gotta give her credit tho gave birth to 2-3 possibily a 3rd in Oliver (sorry if misspelled that) and had a 4th in the family

[@rieyuki]

That’d be a great alternate reality. Then, right as she makes this realization, Elwin “divorces” that treacherous Karen, and kicks her to the curb. However you want to interpret “divorce” given that time period, lol. In the Soup Nazi’s voice: “No power for you!”

[@rey8805]

thing is , she probably couldn't. She was hallucinating, the way how she reacted to kid's death and to Joshua afterwards, is like she couldnt see it was him. Ultima mentally abuses everyone just to make sure Clive is most powerful vessel.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

@@rey8805 I think the bitch was just crazy. Ultima didn't have to do anything to her mind. lol

[@Shigatsu-]

Best Eikon fight in the entire game no doubt, I’m so glad I got to experience it blind , it’s good to be alive

[@Ressel_]

i think this is the best game fight of this year. it started up so epic too, that GIGACHAD clive just walk in front tanking the megaflare with a wall of fire gave me goosebumps.

[@HydeRvt]

Clive is such a badass protagonist. He truly lives up to his title as shield.

[@corwinchapman8270]

The scene with their mother was so, so perfect. I didnt expect them to handle her that way, but boy was it cathartic. I was screaming at my tv the whole time lmao

[@frostthrone334]

I love how at the end of the day, she didn't have some kind of redemption or sympathetic backstory. She's just a piece of shit through and through. It's kind of refreshing.

[@hurricanekingnaruto]

She died the way she lived, like a bitch

[@kingmanic]

I was really hoping to incinerate here. ahh well.

[@Phyrrax]

I personally was hoping that she would reach out and then getting crushed by falling debris. I wasnt satisfied that she basically went on her own terms.

[@myfyp2]

@@Phyrrax I love that she killed herself in despair, with her dreams of power and her "noblest bloodline" crushed. It is a very fitting end.

[@stiofarnog]

I don't think Anabella was under Ultima's control for a second. She was just a crazy piece of crazy.

[@apexreactions4231]

She was definitely being manipulated by Ultima, I mean he took over control of her son to bend the empire to his will. I just don't think she was aware that her son was a thrall for a monster.

[@stiofarnog]

@@apexreactions4231 She was not manipulated. Her evil was exploited. It's not the same thing. She was an abusive, traitorous, kinslaying bitch way before Ultima got involved in the plot.

[@rey8805]

@@apexreactions4231 she also lost her mind at the very end, like a spell has been lifted and she couldnt believe its a reality, seeing joshua as nothing but a shadow. She thought if she slit her throat , she would wake up. Ultima toying with humanity is so well done, ultimate evil.

[@amnos180188]

​​​@@apexreactions4231 pretty sure she's bat crazy even before she married the emperor. Remember she killed Elwin. She's just that crazy Abt bloodline

[@TheTerribleToph]

She was manipulated by Ultima but was never under his control. Her Will, while a terrible person, was strong and I believe Ultima could only drive her deeper into her madness to manipulate her. My theory on why Olivier was able to be controlled and become Akashic was because Anabella coddled him so much he was never able to develop a will of his own adlnd thus he could be controlled. If not for their father Joshua could have been the same, Erwin did chastise her for always Coddling Joshua.

[@nofluid]

Love the Louisoix reference with that Bahamut fight. What an amazing nod to peak kino

[@Orrin_Hawke]

Felt like they def took a lot of references from Ucob

[@David-gj6dc]

The DNA of FF14 is all over this game. Just another example is how the titan music is like a remixed more industrial version of Under the Weight, Titan's theme in FF14

[@shintenkai1648]

​@@David-gj6dcthe DNA is that of a FF14 and DMC5 baby.

[@apexreactions4231]

​@@David-gj6dcNot only that, but the fights against Titan and Ifrit used their FF14 moves

[@Redd-Monarch]

@@David-gj6dc yeah all the forced fetch quests. it reeks of ff14

[@loocidmeems]

Anybody else besides me never cry ever but broke down like a baby when joshua and clive hugged?

[@marcosdheleno]

yeah. FF has that effect on people. i mean, there's literaly a crying compilation for some of the games.

[@jabberwockld4316]

It is how it works with FF series I also was shocked when Ifrit "Killed" the Pheonix and in XV with all it's flaws I still cryied with the end and that's just to mention the latests examples

[@TheTerribleToph]

I rarely cry, it has to really hit home for me to do so. FF7 (You know the scene) FFXs ending. But man this game had so many of those moments, Bryan and Clive meeting the first time, Clive realizing he was Ifrit, Jill coming to terms with what she did and what it turned her into, Clive and Joshua hugging, Clive and Jill towards the end in a quest, and the ending...damn man the ending with the flash back...Yoshi P and team new what they were doing and where to cut those damn onions.

[@williamhazlett6724]

this game is better then most movies released these days

[@PureColumbianCocainum1949]

That isn't saying much since most movies nowadays are ass

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

I can't even remember any movies that released this year besides Across the Spider-Verse that's how shit movies have been so far in 2023. Video games on the other hand, we gamers are eating GOOD this year lol

[@genshinsage]

@@ThwipThwipBoom John Wick 4 hello, amazing movie. That and Spiderverse are amazing. The rest are shit.

[@ninja3687]

It's because Hollywood is more concerned with the "message" and diversity, rather than telling a good story.

[@stpetepiper]

I like how at the end of the day, after all the God slaying, space fighting, and apocalyptic destruction, Clive still struggles to open some doors.... and that okay. We all hate when you try to open a door but it's way harder than you thought it would be.

[@genshinsage]

God of War syndrome. Kratos killed the entire greek pantheon. Still struggle to open a chest.

[@TheTerribleToph]

It's superman syndrome. It's not that they struggle to open doors, they are struggling not to simply send the door flying into next Final Fantasy game, or send the chest lid into space...at least that's my head cannon. "I feel like I live in a world made of cardboard. Always taking constant care not to break something. To break someone. Never allowing myself to lose control, even for a moment, or someone could die." ~ Superman (Justice League Unlimited)

[@crashboredom2]

This is my favorite music from this game's amazing soundtrack. Such a perfect symphony to match bahamuts chaotically beautiful assult of attacks.

[@csseldne2326]

Friendly reminder THAT THIS WASNT EVEN THE FINAL BOSS YET. Game of the year material right here

[@BreakeroftheDawn]

I've been waiting for this part. This Bahamut fight is one of the best fights and spectacles in gaming.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

It was so anime I fucking loved every single frame and pixel of it

[@TheTerribleToph]

Goddamn Kaiju Ball Z, and loved ever minute of it.

[@kleim3139]

​@@ThwipThwipBoom All 24 Pixels probably if you were watching it on Twitch unfortunately

[@swagyolo8602]

3:38:58 Typical expression when someone is mentally lost and unable to grasp their surroundings. However when you see the tiny smile she made here 3:39:01 while looking straight at Joshua just before she off herself, it looks like she came back to her senses. Really love this touch.

[@drazirac117]

Intense story. The transitioning between clive&joshua. Cinematic clashes. Cinematic scenes. Great background music. Super flashy. And my imo, personal fav, the battles are somewhat dragged out but the hype does not fade.

[@dragoncrashhero12]

Don't forget cinematic evasions!

[@Ce2oo]

Absolutely agree, but i want to add gameplay and thats not really the greatest. I mean it works but he never shot a fireball at a stone and He never used one of those sick Finishers with ifrit or ifritphoenix fusion

[@MadPutz]

The battle lengthiness is not so bad if you're the one actively playing and experiencing the adrenaline of not trying to die

[@JemuzuDatsWho]

Dion is some of the best representation I've ever seen, I love him so much, what a noble guy ❤

[@Ilyak1986]

Dion is definitely a case study on how to do representation correctly. When just about all of the association with the character is "holy shit he's awesome!" and then "oh, right, there's Terrence". Hollywood: *TAKE NOTES*.

[@mako3197]

Yeah, because they don't make his sexuality central to his personality. They definitely wrote him without "representation" in mind, so he actually feels like a genuine person with depth and not some shallow token character. For many really dumb reasons Hollyweird fumbles that time and time again.

[@VeralionRawr]

Anabella would make me gay, too. I don't blame him one bit.

[@shinkamui]

@@mako3197even beyond the game, they didnt make him as a token of marketing or anything. Its just a part of the character, played like any other character trait he has. I love it

[@danielmegow966]

Couldn't agree more. I absolutely loved Dions arc. If I had one complaint about it would be I would like to have seen more Terrance. Not like romantic type stuff as I think the game does a great job on that front but more of Terrances personality. I want to know what the man who captured Dion's heart is like because he must be something special as Dion himself is amazing.

[@kylemichel3006]

I love that someone said, after Annabella offed herself.... "I can still fix her" LMAO

[@marcosdheleno]

i mean, im pretty sure a necromancer would be able to...

[@TheTerribleToph]

Lol that comment gave me "the bodies still warm" vibes.

[@supergooglelee]

Most insane fight in gaming history. Game of the Year for sure.

[@Italianchef26]

Even before this moment in the game I already loved every single second that Dion was on screen, but after this part he probably became my favorite character I wish he was part of the main cast (well he kinda is, but you get what I'm saying) Dion isn't a gay character, he's a character who happens to be gay. His entire characterization doesn't revolve around that one single aspect of his being. He's not a token character. He has agency, qualities, faults, motivations, etc... Not ALL he does revolves around Terence. He's important to him of course, but that's not all there is to Dion. But I guess the same can be said about Clive and Jill. They obviously care about each other but not EVERYTHING about each one of them revolves entirely around the other person. This game certainly has its issues and low points, but some parts are probably among the highest points ever reached by the FF series as a whole.

[@overallani4343]

It is a crime that the theme that plays when you fight Bahamut in space isn’t in the music player at the hideaway, I collected all of them to only be disappointed at the end 😢

[@thatoneLerrydude]

I wanted Barnabas/Odin theme. 😢

[@papermario13]

Bahamut and Donald are the only two beings that have cast zeta flare Edit: To avoid spoilers, the final boss of bravely default also casys Zeta flare.

[@MiniatureMorpheus]

My immediate thought when I did it in my playthrough.

[@Foogi9000]

Not even ff14 Golden Bahamut did it.

[@stardust8485]

Airy from bravely default did it too

[@oneofthekindscarf8612]

Donald did die after doing it while this Bahamut probably could've been okay

[@eekeey]

Well...since Sora reset the timeline in Remind, does Donald's really count?

[@MrDoot-hj2ir]

Cheers to those in chat calling Anabella "Lady Macbeth". Great reference.

[@willwhite6110]

When Joshua said "This may be enough....we can do it Clive" ....I got GOOSEBUMPS, especially that part of the orchestra in the song.

[@Krabathorhoward]

Oo😅oo😊

[@Krabathorhoward]

L9😅😊😊😊😊😊oooo😊lp😅😅9oo😅

[@Mike-hy8cs]

If anyone argues why this game should be Goty direct them no further than the Bahamut chapter. The lead up storming the castle and the fights up to that point and then the fight itself and the ending cinematics? On another level. Totk should be 2nd imo and i love both but the scale, story, gameplay, cinematics, VA, graphics of this game all of it combined.. I dont think you can make a case for any other game this year no way.

[@shadowace940]

I love this game, but don't think it'll be my GOTY. There's a couple of other games I'm looking forward to. But damn, the music, the fights, the cinematics...everything in this game is amazing. The story has some really good high points too. The Dion/Bahamut arc being one of them.

[@Mike-hy8cs]

@shadowace940 Thats respectable. I just think this game checks all the boxes of a great game whereas some other games that will be up for Goty this year will still be great but be missing in a few areas that this game does not miss on.

[@yoshitsune416]

clive and dion VA's too good man

[@wumboweinie1428]

One of the greatest fights cinematically ever. Just finished the game today and the end had me in tears almost.

[@MythicAce218]

curious how much longer is there left after this? if you had to estimate

[@naga8756]

​@@MythicAce218I'll Say maybe 10-15h

[@MythicAce218]

@@naga8756 not bad ty

[@ultraginge1990]

I just finished the Bahumet fight. I just love the characters and the story as well as the set pieces. Such a good game.

[@TheOneGreat]

I think it's very boring and the combat is very shallow. Nice looking but not really substantial.

[@CarnoSwag]

Something about hearing Phoenix's theme again Is always a charm

[@KironX1]

Just for people who don’t understand. The child Olivier was real. He was corrupted like an Akashic and controlled by Ultima. He was birthed like a normal child and when killed faded into either from his corruption. Unless I’m wrong of course.

[@iiomniverseiiomniscient7149]

"The only Fantasy here is yours. And we shall be its Final witness!" - Clive Rosfield FFXVI

[@TheTerribleToph]

"The true final fantasy was the friend we made along the way" ~ Clove Richment FFXVi "This will be your Final Fantasy Ultima!" ~ Chris Rosfield "Where we're going, we don't need roads (proceeds to fly into space)" ~ Clingle Rosenberg "It's Morphikon time! Phoenix! Bahamut! Shiva! Ifrit! Ramuh!" ~ Just a couple of Adults with Attitude! (This and old one.)

[@ChthonicRemains]

Everyone in your chat box going crazy over Dion lmao. It's what he deserves for being an absolute legend not just in the game, but he's definitely up there as one of the best characters in all of gaming.

[@1wayroad935]

Very iconic that Clive said his famous line "It's Eikon Time!" as he protected Joshua and Jill from Bahamut's Mega Flare.

[@schill7257]

very "Eiconic" you mean?

[@sapphixiana]

​​@Karasuza_soracyber bullying is real lol

[@pepperbuster]

Aw shiet here we go. The Bahamut fight was so hype. I had the same experience wherein I couldn’t see shit but my brain just went brrrrrrrr because everything was so fucking epic.

[@ragna6410]

Bahamut fight is the most epic fight in a long time.

[@MikkiZHskDK]

the fact that Ultima wants to absorb the power of the eikons through clive who can posses every ikons power is JUST like ffxiv, the ultima weapon is a robot machine who can house all the eikons and use theyre power for great destruction, and this take of ultima is amazing, i knew as soon as i saw ultima and that we could absorb eikons what his plan was! VERY nice

[@dancingdrone]

16:35 HEARD IT HERE FIRST BOIZ

[@Veloso-hf1ux]

Up

[@burtwonk]

Clive screaming “Yield!” while punching Bahamut in space really tickled me pink

[@godsplayingfield]

i enjoy the fact the dev team seems to really enjoy piercing through Bahamut with your whole Aetherial body to murder the bugger lol

[@Foogi9000]

It's absolutely inspired by the dragon ball King Piccolo death scene where kid goku literally bursts through his chest.

[@joltionunivers]

​@@Foogi9000No, it was a call back to how they killed Bahamut in ff14.

[@Foogi9000]

@@joltionunivers I know but that move originally came from DB.

[@biscuitcookie7154]

​@@Foogi9000can't really say for sure, it's not that iconic or anything, just going through body, if anything it's more genetic

[@TheRealRealMClovin]

Dion is badass good character for just knowing him for such a short time.

[@MrTmm97]

3:21:26 just a tip for anyone who might not have considered it, when you are given control of an Eikon, take a few seconds to check your abilities In the pause menu if your interested in any extra moves available to you that weren’t explicitly listed in the pop-ups during Eikon fights. Asmongold went the whole fight barely using super useful abilities like Ifrits circle dash-sprint ability and more importantly Phoenix and Ifrit Risen’s volley where can target many targets/projectiles simultaneously. I’ve found whoever they given me control of the Eikon… there’s at least 1 or 2 abilities on scale with Clive’s normal (non-Eikon) abilities (lunge, slam, burning blade and charged shot equivalent that the game doesn’t layout for you like it doesn’t with Eikon-like ability(spitfire for example.) If we only get a handful of battles fighting as an Eikon… we might as well be using our full kits right?

[@Maedhrosz]

And yet he still killed the boss on the first try

[@hazamax2139]

I'm PRETTY sure the game did tell ya at one point "hey, pretty much all of Clive's abilities are now on Ifrit." And I'm sure of it because the moment I saw that, lunge was my mid-short distance gap closer on Ifrit just as it already was years ago with base Clive. I get what you're saying but it's not like the multi projectile was that useful.

[@MrTmm97]

I wasn’t saying it as like Asmon did anything or “played wrong”… I was simply trying to give an example and reminder to people who might not realize all the extra options there are. If people still choose to play a specific way and prefer specific abilities… great as long as they are having fun right? I just wanted people who might not have realized there were a decent more moves available than it explicitly tells us about to know they can easily take a look if they are interested. I know I enjoyed incorporating more moves I found from the moves list after I checked it. Backdraft mainly is a fun one I think I learned by checking the list.

[@dreamer6737]

This Final Fantasy will be one of the greatest in the series. Epic.

[@DakonBlackblade2]

Guy who said Megaflare isn't good doesn't understand how this battle system works. LV4 megalfare followed by stagger is by far the best damage in this game.

[@karlebykok9177]

megaflare + lightning rod + Gigaflare = Melted health bar

[@puffman06]

lv5 charged zantetsuken kek

[@soojasoo]

@@puffman06i saw a dude use all of these abilities combined against s tier hunts and he just 1 killed them in 1 stagger

[@Keln02]

@@puffman06 Zantetsuken is so clumsy to use... You gotta stop for the weapon switch to happen, then hold to charge the special... clunky af :l But Big D damage

[@naser5545]

​@Keln02 it's more of a playstyle than optimization for damage, BUT there is someone on KZbin who has a video of ng+ killing all hunt marks. He uses odin's lvl 5 zantetsuken, and he executes without it looking or feeling clunky. It's pretty damn cool, lol

[@nonenoninomae]

This game is a masterpiece. I'm a classic fan of Final Fantasy since... FFIII And I don't fucking care about the "Turn base" debate.

[@cyradus]

Best set piece in video game history. Groundbreaking. Game of the Year. FF16 knocked it out of the park.

[@TheOneGreat]

Pretty particles and QTEs = game of the year...

[@MisterAlerion]

@@TheOneGreat A turn based RPG won game of the year. Square Enix needs to figure it out. ASAP

[@Grendel2403]

I love that canonically within the Final Fantasy lore, there are exactly two beings who have ever cast Zettaflare: an Aether-drunken, horrifically powerful Bahamut in FFXVI...and Donald Duck.

[@Helm_hammer]

I just realised ZettaFlare is another name for Final flash

[@Keln02]

Chad Dion Soken and Yoshi enter a gym. The owner apologises for not having enough plates.

[@Wheres_my_Dragonator]

Regarding their mom, Ultima's main motive was to sever bonds and strip away Clive's consciousness. It's never really explained what happened to her. But she's a little crazy already, so it was probably easy for him to manipulate her enough to make her see Joshua as some monster, maybe suggest some actions she could take like he did with Dion, and ultimately neck herself out of fear. She also has "royal blood" as well, so Ultima probably had some control of her no matter what, so it was easier to trick her, especially since Clive has been entranced multiple times already.

[@heavyc4450]

Nah she just crazy. Ultima only did his thing after she went to the empire to mess with Dion.

[@MadPutz]

She might have just been so stubborn that she couldn’t accept that she was wrong and served the big bad, so therefore Joshua must be a false illusion.

[@Pravanul]

@@MadPutz I think she never knew of Ultima's existence at any point. The moment her second son was killed and she saw Joshua alive broke her mentally. She very likely knew nothing like Dion's dad.

[@heavyc4450]

@@Pravanul Joshua is her second son and Clive is her first. She just mad about having a "failure" as a son. Ironically if she didn't betray her husband and archdukedom, the archdukedom would have 3 dominants.

[@shinkenrock]

I'm hard press to find a better boss fight in all of gaming for the spectacle it gives

[@Sorakovu]

Definetely my favorite fight against an eikon in this game

[@lukelmaooooo]

why does every streamer forget that ifrit has all of clives core skills after the garuda fight + a double magic burst. asmon literally forgot about the magic button entirely

[@mauricemoncu2784]

He forgot about everything, making the fight looks boring

[@hazamax2139]

Wait wait wait wait. Double magic burst? Ifrit or Risen Ifrit? Bro I'm already on new game plus and I had no idea about that lol.

[@dismissedrealist6059]

You should do a reaction to a combo mad on this game Asmongold. Just so you can get a general idea of just how deep this combat system really is. True veterans of this genre don't have nearly enough exposure and they're the one's that should be getting review copies. They would generate so much hype if people saw more than just basics. I believe your mind would be blown by the possibilities in these character action games. It's honestly a shame that most have no knowledge of how this genre is intended to be played. So they're always wholly misrepresented from a gameplay perspective and wrote off as just tedious and basic attack button abusers. Doesn't help that there's not much incentive to actually learn though. The games unfortunately aren't meant to be souls clones, so you can finish with only the bare minimum. IMO it actually hurts a game when you have KZbin critics like Skill Up or journalists being seen as a reputable source and they can't even acclimate to the fundamentals.

[@MyDoggiesABully]

This game is meant to be played however to player sees fit. There is no one “way for the game to be played” for this game since that’s quite literally the combat appeal. Being able to choose how you want to battle.

[@waifuhunter9709]

Skill up point out only and only valid critism. As someone started playing DMC2 when it released up until now and cleared all dante must die in all of enteries , i agree whole heartly with what skill up said. Its good game Its not FF though And combat is inferior to DMC Forget about DMC5. DMC3 is better. But dont get me wrong. Its great action game. And as someone doing comboes myself, i dont see it as amazing and ground shaking as you make it to be. Its just a good combat system. Thats good enough

[@Pravanul]

@@waifuhunter9709 It is FF. It's as FF as any game, if not more than FF13 or FF15. It has absolutely everything that makes it FF from the aesthetics to the themes. FF has never been about gameplay, because every FF changes gameplay heavily. FF16 is one of the pinnacles of FF right alongside 4, 6, 7, and 10.

[@dismissedrealist6059]

@@MyDoggiesABully Therein lies the problem, and why this genre will always be miconstrued as mindless button mashing with no depth and have popular novice critics and detractors call it dull, uninspired and repetitive. Which gives a negative impression to the gamer that is not familiar with the genre, and would be ultimately detrimental toit's success. Luckily that hasn't been the case for this game however, but I'm sure there are plenty of people that listened to someone like Skill Up that was undecided on giving it a shot. I stopped listening to him after his Lost Judgment review, when he couldn't even grasp the most basic systems of its gameplay. Didn't even know you can increase your health, and still... opinions from critics like him influence others. That is inarguably an issue.

[@MyDoggiesABully]

@@dismissedrealist6059 I don’t know. His review video actually wasn’t well received. There were plenty within the comment section that disagreed with his overall outlook on the game, but were still able to enjoy the game for themselves. I don’t even remember him really speaking negatively about the combat, but I may have to rewatch the video.

[@charlesdean5750]

3:18:19 Joshua says "I'm here" and puts up a shield and in the bottom right corner is NordVPN awesome advert moment truly

[@KaryonTheirStory]

The chat reaction is everything

[@platnumbreaker]

*BRING HUGO BACK

[@danimal519]

love how Asmon is gonna go through whole game having never used Ifrit's ranged attack LOL.

[@coldogno7]

3:39:17 lol joshua actually could save her with his magic but nahhhhh

[@arenkai]

That's what I love with this scene honestly. Joshua offered to help on principle, because he's still somewhat attached since she's his mother, even if she's a crazy witch. But then she makes her choice and he's just like "okay then" This entire arc is so good

[@aipepero8090]

Ff16 turn into Nier Automata during that Bahamut fight

[@brendenlittle3296]

Love how every streamer I watch has the same reaction to Zettaflare as I did when I played it for the first time. Just absolutely mindblown by the sheer spectacle.

[@8bitdee]

I’ve seen some people say that they think Clive saying “f*ck” during these battles sounds cheesy and forced trying to be edgy, but honestly if I’m in a life of death battle against a godlike magic dragon I too would be saying “f*ck!”

[@Lithiel]

Me and my lil bro are playing this and we cried when they reunited. We feel that. My sib and I are that close too- so this got us in the feels, how DARE ff16!!

[@curtis9555]

Bahamut fight gotta be one of if not THE best boss fight in recent years, holy shit

[@Kalan3rd]

Ill be honest didn't think the duchess had it in her thought she would waver in the face of death, too bad she didn't have enough conviction to stick by and love her family.

[@Arimi1992]

I think she loved power, ambition and the delusion of the purity of her royal blood line. So, the only good thing she ever did was birthing Clive and Joshua.

[@dyslexicfaser]

"I'm sorry for the trouble my mother has caused you" Josh seems to have forgotten that time somebody at this table's nation assassinated the othr one's dad in front of his horrified 8-year-old eyes.

[@hazamax2139]

Which was something that only happened because of her mother, yeah.

[@BubbleTea033]

@@hazamax2139 Besides, I don't even know if Dion would have led the dragoons at the time. I imagine he's of similar age to Clive, meaning he was only around 15 when Phoenix Gate fell.

[@kinggoldark3853]

The chat saying Clive absorbed gayness from Dion. Never change, internet randos!

[@LEE-ty8vq]

Lmao

[@TheTerribleToph]

I mean afterwards his bromance with Gav skyrocketed. Jk jk They've always had a strong bromance.

[@jeffcscc]

I love every time the epic music starts, all shouting "SOKEN" hahaha

[@quinsegers7310]

Probably won't ever see this, but the Enterprise is from FF3, and later FF4. Mid is also Cid's Child as early as FF5, though mind they're all different universes. Hopefully someone got something out of this. Enjoy ff16!

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

Thanks I did!

[@shadowace940]

The Invincible is also from FF3 and FF9.

[@lambdacore016]

The entire Twinside subplot up until Bahamut boss battle is peak Final Fantasy experience. Also, Dion is just a very very well-written character.

[@EldenLord.]

I think the kid (Olivier) was real at some point until Ultima killed and replaced him.

[@yololoyo7379]

Yeah it's explained in time lore

[@coolyeh1017]

You are correct, Olivier was a real kid who went akashic (hence why he leaves no body behind). Becasue he has no will, no thoughts, no consciousness, Ultima was able to possess him.

[@jacobteague635]

I don't think I've ever seen Asmon completely shut up and actually pay attention to a cutscene before. Props to him

[@leduck1645]

game of the year 100%, i get zelda is awsome but its locked to 60 fps and its 30 fps half the time, also its not nearly as big as ff16

[@leduck1645]

@tbnwontpop8857 true, and i hope the port will be good, imagine the graphics and the good frames

[@MrTmm97]

Bahamut was my favorite fight in this game and it’s not even close. If the word epic had a picture in the dictionary defining it…. It would be a screenshot from this fight!

[@poatrykdas]

Dion is a prime example of how a gay person should be represented in a story

[@olfan92]

Goetz is a giant but has the voice of a lalafell 😂

[@Prism_Heavy]

I just did the Bahamut fight last night myself and while I still personally think the Titan fight was better, fighting in space with Joshua was fucking FIRE. God I love this game

[@XWatcherX-i8h]

wait until odin and ultima fights

[@StrawHatGamingg]

Bahamut was better for me. Titan fight felt dragged a bit

[@Deminese2]

@@XWatcherX-i8h Odin is pretty meh. Ultima was good though.

[@Prism_Heavy]

@@XWatcherX-i8h Work has been keeping me from the game but man I am excited! the first game in a long time where each saga gets me more hyped for the next

[@Prism_Heavy]

@@StrawHatGamingg There was something about the Titan fight for me. The music, the different styles of phases, the sheer SIZE of everything. I honestly wanted more even after he died

[@theroseexperience]

GOTY, Best boss fight in gaming history, god tier music, nothing else like it in gaming since God of War 3.

[@typonumber8939]

Did asmond ever figure out he could heal during the ekion fights

[@aerissai8341]

Subconsciously, no Consciously, yes *Only when chat notifies him

[@Pravanul]

He healed during Titan so he knows it exists... but probably forgot. Though it's more fun when you try to not rely on it imo.

[@marcosdheleno]

@@Pravanul i mean, tobe fair, he spent a few days in between playing 16.

[@Grimgool]

God it just keeps getting better anad better, was hooping to see more of the mother meeting them and she did, was hoping for more stuff but still great none the less.

[@stryperwolf1723]

Why do these people keep talk about jill not turning shiva to help the fight or did they kinda forgot that after using it last time she was down for days because of the curse?

[@XWDK]

Using the brain is hard and thinking makes them tired.

[@arenkai]

People don't like when things make sense and stay consistent.

[@harrysliyoko8809]

If Jill joined the fight thé writers would have to kill her due to the curse.

[@Temperance_XVII]

Exactly I’m pretty sure the only person not affected by the curse was Clive

[@TheTerribleToph]

Not to take anything away from Jill but I doubt she'd be any help and probably only be a distraction for Bahamut and Clive/Joshua. It's made painfully clear all Eikons aren't made equal. Something akin to Naruto (forgive me for my weebness lol) each Eikon is like a tailed beast some are just stronger than others. Odin being the Ninetails as the strongest with all of his broken abilities (most only used in cutscenes) and Ifrit is like the Ten tails husk absorbing the others. Would Garuda vs Bahamut be an even fight, Titan vs Odin, Spoilers for later hell, Joshua even states that Odin was just playing with him at one point

[@swolbrohamlincoln9659]

The chat losing their mind trough iut the fight is hilarious lol

[@Evadann]

BAHAMUUUUUUUUT LETSGOOOO I stg during the Bahamut and Ultima fights I could barely see what was going on sometimes. I was just spamming dodge between attacks lmao.

[@FeeIRG]

Oh yeah that one Ultima fight where there were constant particle effects on screen... Literally the first time i died in the game because i couldnt see anything

[@yomly]

When Soken went for Beethoven 9, I wonder if he had Evangelion in mind haha

[@hazamax2139]

I mean, this fight and something else later in the game gives heavy gurren lagann vibes and even if they are pretty different I do think Eva and Gurren Lagann are like sibling series.

[@YukiZero]

to game devs... THIS is how you make diversity and inclusion in a game. make the gay character not actually about their gayness. its just a part of who they are. instead GIVE THEM AN ACTUAL GOOD STORY

[@CraftyMiscreant]

This entire representation bullshit is demoralizing. Whenever u see representation in a game, it's due to having a figurative gun pointed at them if they don't comply.

[@xacmashe3852]

@@CraftyMiscreant Shut up, god.

[@optimumultimaomega]

This is the greatest boss fight of all time.

[@nadheehali6636]

Told. Bahamut fight is the best fight in the game for me. One of the best battles in gaming history ❤

[@dibel3669]

Dang the king was all up in that Ultimussy

[@RandomDrop]

THOS FFXIV REFERENCES DOE!

[@crimsoneyr1234]

I love that they did the strike against Bahamas from ff14 in ff16. Now that is a well placed fan service.