"This Game Is Made By ******s"

A streamer publicly called the lead game developer a "bald ******" during a meltdown. This is what happened to his account
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[@MagpieMcGraw]

He wasn't banned, he was... exiled.

[@SobeCrunkMonster]

he must abandon this… path

[@jomotaku]

10/10

[@gogo_gadget_foodstamps7576]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@RafikelJar]

He truely chose the path of the exiled

[@TF_56]

Stfu and take my like

[@jcman-lp6lg]

"the more hair you lose the more iq you lose" Asmongold: "and I took that personally"

[@niceguy3388]

based

[@sarttee]

lol damn

[@TsarDragunov]

I remember during the Black Ops 2 era, the devs got death threats because they nerfed quick scoping by like .2 or .4 seconds lol

[@lightzpy8049]

FeelsGoodMan BO2 was the last time sniping was actually fun

[@bighoss7437]

Vanghdahar or what every his name is, tried to balance everything. Balance isn’t fun 😂

[@Vladimir_Fedorov27]

If they got those live from a creator to whom they themselves gave a platform and some benefits - my guess is, they'd do something about it. As they would if the death threats were coming from ingame accounts not anonymous posts and emails.

[@matthewdouglas1509]

@@bighoss7437 By balance you mean homogenize. So all the girls with 0.3+ reaction time can snipe too.

[@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU]

Good. At least they know they did something right lol

[@venheartzeil3070]

If Riot banned people for stuff like this there would be no one left lol

[@Lenariet]

Well, sometimes people only learn that way.

[@nigidiustheneedy9072]

yeah lol my name used to literally call for the murder of the head of balance and i only got a forced name change after like a year xdxdxd

[@venheartzeil3070]

@Daniel Flores You must be new to league lol. You’ve never heard Tyler talk about Phreak? A riot employee? Or any of the streamers talk about Jatt when he joined the balance team? Or anything XJ9 said about Tryndamere back in the day? This exact stuff and much much worse happens towards riot employees everyday.

[@venheartzeil3070]

@Daniel Flores I watched Tyler call Phreak a bald r**ard on more than one occasion. I watched other people make fun of him for dating a 🌽 ⭐️. And XJ9 didn’t get banned until he leaked his GF’s 📸 for playing Lee Sin lmao. That’s how far you have to go as a league content creator. I’m not going to try to censor the other stuff Tyler or XJ9 or Tarzan said but look it up I’m sure you can find it.

[@Shiropan260]

@@YuYuYuna_ Yo where is my katarina from that list?!?

[@Lpettro]

Used all his character creation points on Math. Nothing left for charisma.

[@haraldgutzinger6099]

Or standalone intelligence. Jumped right into the math sub-tree

[@peterj.2114]

? its Matth because he's Matthew u silly, lol

[@namethefifth7315]

This is what i get for using point buy

[@iiRaWDaWG]

@@peterj.2114 L

[@Ss4Goten]

Meth*

[@scottii]

The drama during this league has been far more entertaining than actually playing 3.19

[@unixtreme]

This is the game now.

[@HellsingRuler]

I had some fun in heist

[@peterj.2114]

true and real

[@sucioization]

uber drama frog new endgame boss

[@georgewilliamgutarracampos6262]

You are right and it makes it even worse

[@kazumekku]

"One point on a graph doesn't do anything, but two, three, four, five points; that makes a line, and I think we've got a line right here, and it's obviously been crossed." -Asmon

[@mr.excidium8054]

-Art of reacting.

[@jaredkinneyjr]

If he is in America, I totally disagree with being banned. In America there is freedom of speech. Selling a product or service in America then rescinding said product cuz of some name calling? How does no one see anything wrong with this? Also, the guy should be refunded every penny spent then. You cant steal from someone cuz he called you a retard. This is a lawsuit in America 100%

[@noiseisgold3n42]

Everyone already knows he has bars

[@raphaelsouza5302]

He could have added: The line that you can't cross

[@hutmckenzie6867]

So theres a line between constructive and destructive criticism.... a grown man should know the difference how to act while he's in the spotlight

[@asoro_1632]

true

[@Rewind-xq6xs]

Do you get banned from life for saying Trump is retarded?

[@peterj.2114]

he's made like 100 videos of constructive criticism, just putting it out there

[@iiRaWDaWG]

Clearly nothing about him is grown. I would assume he’s spent countless hours locked in a room playing video games. Nothing about that makes him a man.

[@Harmi-XD]

@@peterj.2114 Also not the first time he has been banned, nothing of value lost

[@Neurogenesis1251]

I like how asmon insullted Ion several times, but now acts like a paragon

[@netneo4038]

37:03 actually he has been permanently banned as a person, he is not allowed to make a new account they will ban those too, initially he got a message he could make a new account but he received clarification later that this was not the case and any accounts he would make would be banned.

[@NineSeptims]

He can still play just never stream it or ban

[@praisesui-tyan]

Aw, I thought it was something like an IP ban or hardware ban, or whatever.

[@aipahdyano4429]

He can only play with vpn as his ip will be banned. If you think overreach remember streamer q? GGG knows exactly the ip adress of popular streamers

[@aipahdyano4429]

I thin pathofmathh is right with his criticism but then on the other hand he is such a sheep for still playing. If you don’t agree with the direction of the game stop fucking playing it and do some else. Sheep will always just hang in complain about everything but not take action. Player numbers are mostly inflated by little complainers. If they all stop playing and Poe sits at 20k players they will probably make the game fun again by tomorrow

[@netneo4038]

@@NineSeptims He cannot play it, if GGG ever finds out he's playing then that account is instantly banned. So no, he cannot play it.

[@felronis]

Bottom line to me is homie talked shit and dev's saw it and said "oh yea?" Reap what you sow. All there is to it.

[@smokeythebeast8288]

Yeah I agree with exactly what you just said and that's what makes it a problem. I could care less if all the platforms that he was running his mouth on banned him but the fact that they just banned his account that he spent thousands of dollars on and then send him something saying he can make a new account that just sounds like a butt hurt Dev swinging his cock around to me

[@cantunderstandnotry6130]

I mean banning a dumb kid with a foul mouth for being a dumb kid at the foul mouth is just as bad as being a dumb kid with a foul mouth to me

[@smokeythebeast8288]

@@cantunderstandnotry6130 like I said if twitch wants to ban him it is whatever because obviously he's breaking terms of service just like if the Reddit thread wants to ban him it's whatever but he should never been banned from the game and if they decided to go that route it should have been a blanket ban. This way it just seems like someone's abusing power we're going to take the account that you spent money on but you're more than welcome to make a new one that's fucked up

[@cantunderstandnotry6130]

@@smokeythebeast8288 agree mostly personally I think those companies have way too much power to silence people even if they're saying horrible s*** otherwise yeah

[@zekulir6419]

@@smokeythebeast8288 Its a fucking video game. Equating it to twitch is like equating me from forbidding you to enter my home to a hospital forbidding you entry. Dont like poe? Play something else. Your life does not depend on it. Twitch can be a main source of income.

[@nazgullinux6601]

What he said may have been shitty. But cross platform banning should not exist. The ramifications of such things becoming normal are vastly more important than people realize.

[@tundrazzr3659]

It's 2022, it's already been normalized.

[@NoName-mi8js]

It absolutely should when the platforms and personal attacks involving your platform are involved.

[@justcrap3703]

​@@NoName-mi8js Found the future dictator. Promise us you won't run for politics.

[@ILHillbilly67]

Always criticize/question the decision never the person. Unless the person sets themselves up as the arbiter of that decision then you can question the reasoning behind that decision and the motivation.

[@SuperCatacata]

Yep. Unfortunate because he actually had very good criticisms of the current POE league (which objectively sucks if 50% player retention after 4 days says anything) Now that he took it too far and made personal insults. People are going to act like his opinions were wrong too.

[@toukoenriaze9870]

@@SuperCatacata sadge

[@ozymandias8523]

@@SuperCatacata league is dead though

[@King_Gatorade]

This guy had the opportunity to play games for a living and he chose to use platform to harrass people ... pretty stupid move. Its their game if you don't like their direction & they don't listen to your feedback; find something else to play.

[@daath912]

And he got a sugardaddy who tipped him over 5k each month... RIP

[@dondongo12345]

loser argument

[@DandySusano]

Do you even play path? lmaoo

[@King_Gatorade]

@@DandySusano Sure I do and it sucks right now which is why I don't play. If the logic is that you can lash out everytime you hate something then I would think half the world would be jobless right?

[@callingyourphone1212]

Its actually fucking hilarious because he cant switch games...he has a patreon that "sells" guides to make currency and u need to pay like $200 a month to see the guide lmao..so without poe he has nothing really, only takes like 20 suckers to buy into that for him to pay bills

[@erichite3398]

I'll freely admit I have anger issues myself, but there's a difference between venting and indulging when it comes to dealing with it. This guy was enjoying his tantrum too much and feeding his anger rather than simply letting it out.

[@breadtoaster1011]

literal mandchild throwing a tantrum online

[@peterj.2114]

honestly GGG have been feeding the tantrum for a good week straight, I'm losing my shit too

[@EntitySteel]

@@peterj.2114 Go touch grass my guy.

[@sunsetgradient]

@@peterj.2114 do you hear yourself? go do something else, you sound absolutely deranged over a game.

[@EntitySteel]

@@francoisturgeon1176 What a boring argument. He didn't say it in real life, he said it on the internet, so who cares what the repercussions would be in real life?

[@TheChronologic]

PathofMathh has been a bit dickish at times, but you also gotta take into account a certain streamers fanbase that is constantly attacking and lying about him. Many of the points made in that reddit post are taken completely out of context.

[@prodgalaxyy]

then you have this 30 minute long video over a reddit comment 💀

[@christaylor86]

I mean, he said what he said, there's no disputing that.

[@TheChronologic]

@@christaylor86 This time sure, but the first one was fake discord screenshots that got him banned.

[@sanmaru5555]

yeeh he made a vid about why he said that, alot of streamers talked shit about his vids past couple of days and he kind of exploded on chris he says thats the reason but for me it doesn't by any means justify his actions

[@zZzabi]

@@sanmaru5555 it definitely doesnt pardon him for what he said but PERMABAN is just egregious on GGG site, he had explained 2 of his first ban is due to either slander and GGG tos inconsistencies, how is it that some streamer for ruin econ for the whole season arent perma but calling R word on GGG is perma?? his callout to GGG is not baseless either, this season suck and the player retention show it. asmongold also should check the recent video that he released that defies the first 2 accusation. kinda sad that asmon just eat reddit word at the face value.

[@RaeneYT]

I'm one hundred percent down with Devs just banning people who continually shit talk them, especially on an individual basis. I personally find it humorous. It's just a game and even if it's your job to play games, it's not your job to be an asshole.

[@ShinPG]

For sure, personal attacks are not the same as criticism

[@anderslarsen4412]

Exactly. I hope we can finally get something done about all the toxicity, racism, and bullying in gaming. It would be a much more pleasant hobby if we could do that. But it's difficult, since it's been allowed for so long.

[@SeruraRenge11]

@@anderslarsen4412 No, if anything EVE Online has shown you can in fact create an environment that encourages being toxic, do NOTHING about it, and people will come to play the game. It won't get the bigger player numbers in the world but there's clearly a market for that.

[@MrMittenshasatophat]

​@@bruvva2160 A big one. This comment section of people wouldn't survive in the 2000s thats for sure. What a shift in mindset. Im glad I got to see gaming with the supposed "toxicity" of the 2000s. This snowflake mindset everywhere and ban happy bullshit has to go. Oh well, with the economy going the way it is these devs are about to feel it and learn the hard way. Ive noticed in gaming devs and companies hate customers and they hate people that buy games. It is very known in this industry. Good, it's time for these devs to be humbled they are in an industry of wants not needs.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

@@bruvva2160 They call slippery slopes a fallacy for a reason. What a stupid hill to die on.

[@TOX1Cparadise]

It's Chris' game. If he wants to ban someone for calling him r'tarded he can ban someone for calling him r'tarded. Kid is cringe and probably has issues if he gets this mad over PoE.

[@MuDkipzCHancelLOr]

True but caring about words online screams mental illness as well

[@DrGandW]

@@MuDkipzCHancelLOrVery few people genuinely don’t care if someone calls them names online or not. It’s annoying at the very least. Like you “don’t care” if I call you a pretentious goon based on your opinion. I genuinely don’t mean it at all but you’re probably capping if you don’t get a little hotter and that’s normal.

[@MaskofAgamemnon]

10:52 "Your feelings become invalid the moment that they are inflicted on other people." Could. Not. Agree. More.

[@TheLiquidRemix]

What a terrible take - This is how censorship and fascism take over

[@LegendaryDrops]

Ngl, this much drama around PoE is kind of unexpected, on average the player base has been pretty happy. It's wild how quickly the devs have shit the bed.

[@Enskyed]

What are you on about? The community is fucking miserable at the start of every league.

[@shaetsu4045]

It's been a downward spiral since 3.15. I quit after harvest personally because I saw the trajectory they were going after how they commented on harvests "impact", aka they completely misunderstood the point.

[@Noriaela]

I dont play the game and pay almost zero attention to it but from what I've seen recently online no one is happy with this game except maybe a few select people

[@bigchungus6827]

This league has had historically the worst player retention. Basically everyone in my guild and many others I talked to are just about completely done.

[@LegendaryDrops]

@@Enskyed Just an outsider looking in, I've always heard positive things about PoE, haven't encountered a lot of the unhappy players, though I guess I haven't been looking

[@jamesb5540]

I haven't played PoE in a while, but all I know is that since 2013 I've had some of the most fun I've EVER had doing ANYTHING, shared along with my best friend, for absolute FREE. The only money I've spent has been in appreciation for enjoyment ALREADY RECEIVED. Imagine buying a pair of $40 pants or something, that didn't end up being exactly your favorite, and you decide to personally attack the designer all over social media, nuts right? Poor devs.....

[@ShadowOfHistory-wn1xh]

Lets just say that last league left many people quitting PoE.

[@jamesb5540]

@@ShadowOfHistory-wn1xh and that completely fair, I'm fully up to date with the situation. People should be allowed to be sad about something they care a lot about getting worse. But personally attacking Chris is still not cool, or even logical. It's OK to be sad/angry about losing what you really like, but no one can take away the awesome experiences we've already had, even if it is time to move on.

[@Hubbaser]

Imagine then designers disowning you of your pants and banning you form owning future products

[@gamerfront6090]

To be fair poe(post acts) without tabs is borderline unplayable. You need at least Premium tab upgrade to sell items to other players. And tabs like maps, currency, divcards, essences pretty much mandatory. Without them you will need 0-100 normal tabs FOR EARCH to fit the same amount of items

[@ShadowOfHistory-wn1xh]

@@jamesb5540 Well, again. WoW community quite happily hates on Bobby.

[@Perrydigm97]

this dude sounds like a 14 year old on black ops 2 throwing every gamer word out in the search and destroy lobby

[@Thranduil606]

Ive actually never watched an Asmon video before (never really been my thing), but i have to admit he’s enjoyable to listen to. Dude is very well articulated and seems highly intelligent. It’s also fun watching his eyebrows when he talk. Added bonus.

[@destroyerinazuma96]

The eyebrows are what ppl over in Japan noticed first :)

[@GItoKeG]

@@turkeyman631 Honestly if I met him in person I don't know if I'd be able to keep up with him in a debate if we ever had one. He never cease to amaze me with how he speaks about certain topics.

[@soulofartorias9928]

Hes much smarter than a lot of people realize, and he has very level headed and rational responses to lots of things

[@inhumANthropoid]

He's knowledge on some topics but that confidence bleeds into topics that he knows nothing about which is off putting sometimes

[@SGTSHOOTnMISS]

"he said he was just joking" Didn't look that way when he was doing it. Can't call it a joke when nobody laughed.

[@sartnowelye3236]

for it to be a joke, it needs a PUNCHline... get it! ok i'm out

[@SobeCrunkMonster]

your last sentence doesnt add up but otherwise youre correct. theres plenty of jokes that make plenty of people not laugh

[@anderslarsen4412]

"Schrödinger's joke". It's suddenly "just a joke", when people get mad at you. It's a cop-out that weak people have been using for a long time. I'm glad that it's being called out now for what it really is.

[@infernoboi92]

Alot of those 7 point list are debunk. Giveaway are frequent flagged and lots of streamers get falsely banned The reddit ban, the power hungry mod came out to apologize for targetedly repeating to ban PoM when he starts a new account

[@vielara]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I understand being pissed off with changes to a game, but this guy took it way over the line and directly into the next galaxy.

[@vond5829]

The line is pretty subjective, tbh. I think he's fine, a bit of a bitch and a dick, but the line for me would actually doing something that cause harms to the devs. Who gives a shit if somebody's feelings got hurt

[@JayBigDadyCy]

Agreed..I'm an avid PoE player, but holy fuck... These dudes take it way too far sometimes and after the extreme abuse Bex took from the community a while back, GGG has zero tolerance now.

[@Pancajayna]

@@JayBigDadyCy saying bad words hurts feelings... too much soy

[@zekulir6419]

@@Pancajayna Crying about getting banned is soy. Take responsibility for your actions, dog.

[@Pancajayna]

@@YuYuYuna_ Incorrect. The PLAYERS pay for it, one way or the other. If as a developer your skin is so thin or in this case , head is so lacking, that mean words have this effect, then you have been drinking too much soy in your latte...

[@Magneto2606]

Asmon made much more and worse personal attack on Bobby and has balls to criticise this guy?

[@TheLegendBrolySS]

First time time seeing this dude and he's the most negative (pretending to be positive) streamer I've ever seen. He goes out of his way to make a video about another person to insult them, yet in same video tells everyone why it's bad pathofmatth did so. Hypocrite is all I'm hearing, also not a fan of path dude either. Just this dude is the worst.

[@apalsnerg]

I have autistic traits, albeit I've never been diagnosed, and I know full well that you don't just insult people. It disgusts me when people treat autistic people like children that need coddling. Sure, they may not have an innate sense of what is publicly appropriate, but you can LEARN these boundaries. If you study normal people, you can learn what is and isn't okay to do. It is a struggle, to be sure, and one that was hard for me, but I did learn it, and it has served me well.

[@CZpersi]

Many autistic people actually have a very strong sense of justice that may paradoxically get them into trouble, when they have to face this world that is sometimes far from being just and perfect.

[@CaliburnVT]

I'm unsure if I am autistic or not, though some have said I may be, but I do know I have autistic friends. They definitely aren't children that need coddling, honestly the best thing you can do for them is to treat them no differently than what you would any other friend.

[@Mr__Chicken]

Wait so Asmon wont call anyone autistic because he doesnt like using medical diagnosis as an insult, but is fine with calling people spergs? Sperg is just a derogatory insult for people with aspergers. Just because he thinks most people dont know where the word comes from or that the word evolved is irrelevant...

[@Lenariet]

I agree, if you follow that logic everyone can say what they want and get away with it playing all dumb, that sounds pretty unreasonable. If people (can) know what asperger is (like, by googling a second) then the same goes for "sperg".

[@benito1620]

"It's OK when asmon does it." That's literally the logic he uses, it's OK when he does it because it's a joke of "part of my persona", when other people do it then it's threatening and abuse.

[@wild5851]

Because when you hear the word autism nowadays most people think of the ones being born with a physical defect, instead of an emotional or social defect. also 1 I haven’t seen asmon use it recently and 2 I don’t think anyone (even asmon) in this time and age know what it means he probably remembers a lot of people saying it and started using it as well and 3 Asperger’s sounds like an invented autism for attention seekers trynna identify as an autist to defend themselves cause shit I know 99% of my friends have at least one or 5 of the symptoms described under Asperger

[@hanlosingit]

As an aspie, TIL sperg is related to aspergers.

[@brusclesprout1274]

If you come to Asmon for logic, morality and consistency, you've come to the wrong place. Lmfao

[@WindHaze10]

Chris wasn't always bald. I remember him cutting hair at barber next door for reaching a charity goal.

[@dagowow]

Yep, that's the story.

[@ROBDEWAND]

respect for that

[@Vashy434]

Bad people can and often do charity specifically to raise their social perception positively.

[@matteoar]

@@Vashy434 ...what?

[@Vashy434]

@@matteoar Idk what is difficult to understand about my statement.

[@TehDanny]

"Sperg" is definitely short for "asperger's". It's just said by a lot these days, some people say it as a replacement instead of calling people retards or gay, since those insults are commonly frowned upon and sperg is less known. Sometimes I question myself if I even have the syndrom, even though I've been diagnosed with it, and this confussion is partially because when it's being used as an insult I'd rather just not think that I have it, and often not say that I have it, to avoid giving ammunition to toxic people, and to not feel that I'm some person who deserves to be insulted.

[@anderslarsen4412]

Don't worry about the toxic people using a diagnosis as a slur. Just by your comment here, I can tell that you're not what these people mean, when they use "sperg". They would just a likely use race, gender, or sexuality as a slur. It has more to do with their own insecurities and feelings of inadequacy, than anything else.

[@choke-]

When someone says retard or sperg believe me we are NOT trying to insulting diagnosed people when we say it so you shouldn't feel that way. It's just an insult like any other, I just think it's a funny word 🤷‍♂️

[@TehDanny]

@@choke- Alright, I'll try to just see it as that.

[@TehDanny]

@@anderslarsen4412 Thanks

[@metax73]

I don't agree. If he was tweeting at Chris, or emailing him, or actually interacting with him in some way and saying that shit to him, then fine, that's harassment. But he's not, he's on his own stream saying this. That's not harassment. Should he have said that? No, 100% not, and it was wrong of him to say that. But none of this sounds like harassment.

[@jackhorkheimer]

Right--it's a bit rich when people go on about how "harmful" words are, while broadcasting the words that would never be heard otherwise

[@themaskedhobo]

My boss almost dropped one of our clients over WAY more mundane comments about one of our other employees. Don't let these direct personal attacks stand. 11:47 Yeah people act like the fact that its over the internet its ok when the same actions would get you kicked out and permabanned from any store, even Walmart if it was in person.

[@JayTheProduct]

Only almost?

[@bahamut256]

@@JayTheProduct Then your boss is a clown and doesn't understand how to run a business. Moral outrage and woke virtue signalling has no negative effect on the customer, they simply take their business elsewhere to someone who doesn't care. They still get their product or service, someone else gets paid and you get nothing.

[@freefalling4271]

@@bahamut256 You’re assuming the business of a random rude client is enough to make a difference. Many shops have been banning people from entering their shops, yet they’re still standing and flourishing. Get real, you’re overestimating the significance of such minority, and the trade-off to serve such “Karen” definitely isn’t worth the money. Just to push this further, being associated with rude customers can even tarnish your own brand and deter other customers depending on what services they sell. Hell imagine hiring EDP445 for $1/hr (hey, best business employee am I right? Virtue signalling aside) will get you cancelled for having a pedo in your business. I doubt his boss is a clown if his business is still standing firm and still has multiple clients (“one of our clients”). Maybe your formula just ain’t 100% effective.

[@kaiderhai86]

@@bahamut256 I wanna work for that clown. Seems like a good guy to me. Why accept anything bad just bc someone has money. That's not a healthy attitude for me. But hey, everyone's different

[@Midtrust]

@@bahamut256 You’re really gonna let anyone who wants come in your store and disrespects you and your employees every single time and tell him nothing just because he brings you some money ? Lol. Thats not really what I’d call a good boss who understands business 😭

[@АнтонГаврилов-ц8е]

I was watching this guy back in 2020-2021. I never thought he physically can say things like bald fuck lol. Watching his videos, i was getting an expression of a calmest dude in the community. Also his gen cry build guide is absolute best.

[@akimezra7178]

He was bullied by other twitchers for a week and they just set him off edge...

[@АнтонГаврилов-ц8е]

@@akimezra7178 yeah poor guy... Why can't he get emotional in a game that he like(d) so much? Just watched his vid about current situation and that's just sad idk. And also these twitch streamers attacked him like fucking hyaenas.

[@akimezra7178]

@@АнтонГаврилов-ц8е yep, turns out i was following a few of them... What a disgrace...

[@mtg9587]

The dude was slimy and creepy for a long time

[@noimnotnice]

4:10 Misinformed Asmon is reading off misinformed redditor's opinion - the video.

[@idliketorant9147]

I just see a passionate player sick and tired of being ass rammed by nerfs and changes that nobody asked for tbh. He's not wrong but it is a bit aggressive sure but it's not any different than how most of us talk about blizzard and World of Warcraft. I have not played for the last like four or so leagues for the same reason and came back this league cuz it looked fun but then they pulled out there trap card and fucked us again. POE is the only ARPG that literally nerfs the fun outa the game every other league for no fucking reason and takes away player power and build diversity for literally no reason.

[@OZMSSF1337]

He did say on someone else's stream, that GGG sent him an email later , and told him if he made a new account it would be banned too, its ID ban now, idk the details but for the people interested its on "CuteDog" 's stream

[@kayossangel]

At the risk of sounding dense, how is calling someone names on your own stream harassment? He didn't make any threats or personally call or email Chris Wilson did he? He just malded on his own stream? I mean, throwing a temper tantrum is 100% childish, but dev abuse? Come on now

[@serakayle7903]

I think, and I might be mistaken, if it was directed aimlessly, it would have passed as a temper tantrum and the platform to take action here would have been maybe twitch for vulgarity and using the R word. But since it was directed at a specific person, that was a personal verbal attack. He's not a child, he's a grown ass man who insulted a person specifically. Childish as it may be, if it were my game and if one of my staff members, let alone myself, was specifically verbally attacked publicly I would insta ban this person from my establishment (may it be game, restaurant, office, it doesn't matter). He made a decision to verbally attack, applied action and verbally attacked, and actions have consequences and he got himself a perma ban. Seems justified to me. I could be wrong and speaking from bias though.

[@kangvo4950]

He basically got banned from streaming the game, meaning they just wanted him off of the PoE section on Twitch and not representing the community.

[@tomasxfranco]

Yeah, it makes no sense to me. I dont think anyone should get banned from a service for tweeting that the SW team that support the service are incompetent, or that one of them is bald and stupid.

[@whimsofmim]

I thank heaven every day that I grew up in a time period when widespread streaming/vlogging wasn't really a thing. I shudder to think of the shit I would have said when I was in my teens and early 20's. It's rough for you youngsters coming up today. This was mild compared to the kind of garbage we used to say to each other and even to our teachers/parents/etc.

[@smenkinsa]

this dudes like 30

[@whimsofmim]

@@smenkinsa I am? ... I wish! I'm 41. Old enough to remember a time before the "internet" (as we know it), but young up to have grown up with the early mass adoption of the internet. When I was a teen, and into my early 20's, the internet as we know it now wasn't really what it is today. YT was just emerging as something beyond funny cat videos and "vlogging" was a new thing. Streaming wasn't really a thing in the late 90's or even early 2000's. Tom Green was one of the first major people I can think of who actually tapped into the potential of livestreaming with his webovision (doing a show live from his living room, including often laggy and hilarious Skype video calls from viewers). It was a totally different time and a totally different net. People who grew up always online, with phones and tablets from the time they were kids can't grasp how unfiltered people were around your friends. Most streamers now, even those that speak pretty freely, are still really tame and careful compared to the shit a teen or young adult from the 90's would possibly say.

[@whimsofmim]

@@smenkinsa oh my bad if you meant the dude that got banned, or even asmongold, I understand... but 30 is a lot different then 40. 40 was born in the early 80's, literally a teeanger when widespread dialup (normally AOL) was a thing. People who are 30 grew up with all of that already done and established and were seeing the birth and growth of things like YT, twitter, reddit, etc.

[@kimserne]

Thank god, PathofMath has always been a stain on the PoE streamer community in my opinion.

[@Zoltag00]

The American attitude of "the customer is always right" I think has helped encourage a very narcissistic view of the world, leading to behaviour that is completely unacceptable

[@kriptiksoulja]

Thats not an American attitude its a corporate slogan that Karen's think is a law

[@Zoltag00]

@@kriptiksoulja - From your comment, I presume you're American. If you do get a chance to work in other countries, you'll discover it is in fact a distinctly American perspective

[@kriptiksoulja]

@@Zoltag00 I am from the US there are 2 American continents and I dont have that attitude and fundamentally neither does a majority portion of US citizens 🙄

[@davidhernandez6593]

Kid thought he was untouchable on a live platform. Sometimes these gamers need to be reminded they exist in the real world.

[@tadakatsu123456]

Let's be honest, modern day gamers are entitled dogs and need to be put in place. You don't deserve the sun just because you spent 30 bucks on a game.

[@Hybrid869]

As much as I agree with this. Gotta take a moment we're so far in that it's all gotta be broken down. Tone 100% sets the pace for how things will play out.

[@NewCurryofthepast]

Thank you for the investigative journalism Zack. I saw some fans of him defending him in game and almost agreed with them because tone policing cross platform is bad. But with all this context Matth 110% earned it. Keep it up baldy.

[@tineye5100]

Isn’t Matth a sponsored creator for them too? He basically did this as a brand representative.

[@Hubbaser]

@@tineye5100 no, he was not. He was only promoted on PoE website

[@SimpsonSolution]

his points were correct but then he looks like a child attacking the dev personally for no reason

[@MultiClow]

Quins tweet is gold tho sad to see asmons reacting to it got edited out

[@Jytube231]

To be banned from a game for something you've done/said outside of the game is absolutely ridiculous. A person saying these things to themselves in their house with no audience wouldn't get banned. A person typing those comments on any sort of non-account-linked forum would not get banned. Imagine finding your WoW account disabled because you left the mandatory thumbs down on Blizzard's latest release trailer.

[@Lenariet]

It doesn't seem super uncommon, The Act Man got demonetized on YT because he made bad satirical jokes about doxxing YT employees - on Twitter.

[@benja9029]

so true. I talk shit about chris and poe to my friends all the time and yet I'm still not banned what could be the difference be? who am I? nobody, no platform and no ability to this in front of hundreds of people but hey let's not consider that cause it's inconvenient

[@Jytube231]

@@benja9029 Sounds like he should be removed from that platform, if speaking negatively about someone/something is against TOS. Still not an in-game offence.

[@Hubbaser]

@@Lenariet This seem like putting YT employees in danger. Not exactly on the same level, you know?

[@benja9029]

@@Jytube231 but he did violate POE's ToS they stated that he was banned for attacking a developer and that's not the 1st time he got punished for it. First time around he got a temporary suspension... But I agree with your logic, twitch should have also ended his career cause he did it on their platform

[@Man-z4v]

Asmond saying that it's ok to call someone a sperg right after saying it's not ok to call someone a schizo is one of the stupidest things I ever heard come out of his mouth

[@damon2085]

Was really weird hearing him saying sperg and asperger were two different things.

[@Nero1444]

Yeah Asmon shouldn't be getting into what insults are morally right or wrong, unfortunate topic selection this time.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

@@Nero1444 No he's right, most people don't understand what it actually means so it's not offensive unless they add context that makes it target people instead of behavior. Everyone knows that "schizo" refers specifically to schizophrenia, which is often heavily misunderstood already. Equating the two is stupid, and I have Aspergers. I don't need any of you standing up for me against benign language, and I've told people to stop sperging out myself.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

I've also been told that "aspie" is offensive in the same way, but again it's only offensive when put in a context that implies that having asperger's is the problem and not the behavior on display. If it's clear that they're simply trying to refer to outburst behavior then I don't think it's helpful to get worked up and confrontational over it.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

@@damon2085 If I say a person angrily acting out is "sperging out" then everyone understands that I'm referring to their outburst behavior. If I instead say that "they have asperger's" I'm now implying that simply having the condition is the problem, and that is obviously far worse.

[@mukaonline3]

PoE player never go outside... they just change map

[@hail_2_u321]

lmao too real man

[@AlexWiant]

He was IP banned. GGG emailed him an hour after the acct ban and said if he creates another account it will be banned too.

[@lplusratio1489]

he actually can't make a new acc, he said they've banned him permanently from poe overall soon after

[@georgewilliamgutarracampos6262]

As far as I know, all GGG initially said that he can play if he create a new account but later, GGG send a new message stating that they will ban any new account that he might create as long as they could know for sure that belongs to him, in other words PoM as a person is permabanned from POE. if it is true or not, I dont know.

[@greebotheone-eyedtomcat4446]

In general, I agree with the ban, as long as it's temp. Things should be taken in the context, in this case Matt has: - enriched the community with multiple great (free) tools (external, excel based mostly) to assess the best ways of making wealth - had shone light in the past onto various borderline legal (vs TOS) practices, which were ethically dubious (and got removed from game afterwards, whether his activity in any way impacted that is not known, I think) - has created many many videos where he shared his thought processes, how he tries to understand and optimize his playing and crafting (those were very helpful to me and other people for our knowledge building abilities) In the end, PoE is a game about knowledge, much more so than skill. And this knowledge lives and spreads in the community, to large extent with content creators. Matt has contributed greatly to that. His current behavior was very emotional, but I also understand the reasons for why his emotions are running so high. The current patch destroyed extreme-high-end crafting (and did so without any explanation on the why). Matt has in the past created some of the best items in the game, mostly for fun of doing so. Those items had then been mirrored many many times. The ultimate chase item in PoE is the Mirror of Kalandra, which allows to create a copy of an item. Without crazy people making crazy items (not bugged, just crazy good), there will be nothing to copy. The current release took away what he loves the most about the game and removed it entirely. So he's very pissed off. He got personal, so he got banned. Taking the entire context into account, I hope he gets his ban removed some time in the future, and he continues to contribute to the community.

[@dreamevil3802]

Totally agree personal insults in or out of a game, online or offline is a line that should not be crossed. I do think GGG messed up though. Banning someone from 3.19 doesn't seem like a punishment to me more of a blessing :p

[@alancleveland7623]

He did it all to himself. Welcome to being made accountable for your actions.

[@Pancajayna]

accountable for mean words? this generation is soft as shit...

[@E.Frey2002]

It's very easy to let yourself go when you have such a strong connection to a game and a person on the dev team fucks with something that you really like. I never liked the way GGG devs communicate, I've quit three years ago, still feel that way. I quit so that I wouldn't act out like this guy and just saved myself the pain and honestly I'm glad I quit. Got 350 for my account.

[@victisomega4248]

It’s a new age we live in, where mental gymnastics have to be done to parse out who’s allowed to say what, and when they’re allowed. Bless these devs, they’d have never made it if they developed an FPS or a MOBA in the mid-2000s, the strain would be more than their feelings could bear. I’m glad I quit PoE a long time ago.

[@nsaine4706]

Asmon is just as ableist. It's amazing how high of a horse he's on about this situation. Keep in mind he's an active player of PoE and knows the devs personally.

[@egr1957]

Yep. Asmon loves to tell people to not watch the content if you don't like it. The PoE guys could ignore this guy when he's on Twitch but nope, he insulted me gotta take him down. Ban him in PoE for what he said on another platform. It's a double standard.

[@nsaine4706]

@@egr1957 I think it'd be different if it was actual threats or violent remarks. But it's just childish insults.

[@GamingWithHunterMain]

The reason I personally think this ban looks shady to some people is because of how bad the league is. To some, this will look like an attempt to silence a critic. When someone like Chris comes out in a letter and personally accepts responsibility for the whole thing, he opens himself up to personal critic. I do think he went too far and personally attacked him, but I do think it also looks shitty on POE dev's part too.

[@erichite3398]

20:48 "Banning is power abuse." Uuuuuuuuuuuuh, WTF? That statement is too dumb to even engage with.

[@dougt1981]

he must have snapped,that was very out of character for him.he is usually very level headed from all the vids i've watched of him

[@nazgullinux6601]

That's been my experience watching him.

[@eprjct]

Not only did he insulted Chris, he's been boycotting the devs ever since 3.19 came out nonstop. Absolutely toxic behavior.

[@pluralizor2957]

I just can't understand why he cares he was banned if the game shouldn't be played...they did him a huge favor

[@Psycorde]

"Threatening"?

[@azuri6842]

@@pluralizor2957 because its his job and even for how much the dude cry about how much he hated the new league (which is almost every single league for the past year or so), he would still play the game while telling everybody to not play it, dude has a complex... the game is nowhere near unplayable and alot of people still enjoying it, and this dude would still make videos about how unplayable the game is while giving out bad examples, all while selling ingame strats about making money on his patreon for some reasons.

[@eprjct]

@@Psycorde Yeah, he was saying things like let's bankrupt GGG if they don't reverse the changes. Refund all the Exilecon tickets so the investors come in deal with them. It's really childish suggestions tbh.

[@ItsOctoberr]

@@eprjct Soooo boycotts? The thing that's very popular on twitter? Hardly threatening is it. You make it sound like he's claimed he will kill his family.

[@jiminypark9954]

that guy is low key preaching truth beside all the insult, game is not fun, and Chris Wilson think gaming philosophy is more important than the core gameplay that makes game fun

[@zeromailss]

Some people are just toxic and it would be better for the community if they disappear

[@danielhiggins3575]

I remember old Bungie used to have employees that banned you permanently for messaging their xbox live account or t-bagging their character.

[@GenocideLv]

29:04 the irony of this statement is that you receive flame from internet trolls like a child instead of being the supposedly described adult at hand and skating right past it because youre adjusted in life.

[@Vaal420]

Feel free to talk shit about whomever you want, you are free to do so. But be prepped for getting shit on by bigger fish for doing so.

[@Vaal420]

@@hashimrahman51 If I run/develop a game, and people are talking shit, and I read it, and I know who you are and have your account info and have the power to ban you, I am going to for spite, because I am an asshole. You have the freedom to type whatever you like. People have the same freedom to do something about it if it within their power. I am not saying it is right, I am saying this is how the world works. Don't talk shit, you will be ok. There is a marked difference between voicing displeasure when devs fuck up your game, and attacking people personally. This ban was a grim reminder of that.

[@paganlark7037]

This really takes me back to my days on Summoner's Rift

[@Slashoom]

As an outsider to this, I think the ban was a mistake. Yes this guy is toxic, but he is just vocalizing criticisms in a toxic way. I don't really see anything ban worthy for calling game developers a bad word. I actually think it sets a pretty bad precedent where game devs can simply ban people who have opinions they don't like and deem toxic. Unless he made RL threats of violence or broke TOS, he shouldn't get a ban IMO.

[@francisgutierrez9674]

Soy era

[@nonamepetko]

Ok but listen... If riot banned for behavior like this League of Legends wouldn't have a player base and I see this as an absolute win.

[@Blackbirdone11]

Imagine a allchat without toxic stuff. Would be a dream... back in beta it was so callm and fun.

[@smenkinsa]

didnt riot ban tyler1 for being toxic?

[@jonnyjazzz]

I only ever experienced Path of Matth's content on KZbin, and he presents himself very well on the build guides and the economy analysis, etc. It's too bad. I will miss his YT content.

[@grindcorethrall8654]

They ID banned him, meaning he cant make a new account to play. His first and 2nd infraction were completely fraudulent, so he received an ID ban for criticizing a devs intelligence.

[@christaylor86]

Good.

[@bestpinoza]

"after a year, they will ban his other account." They will not. GGG does not do that. They take your money and run. Your old account is dead.

[@xBINARYGODx]

recently GGG implied they will attempt to ban any account he tries to make - so they went fully nuclear. Even people caught RMT are permitted to make a new account.

[@bestpinoza]

@@xBINARYGODx Even RMT-ers can get their accounts back eventually. Buddy of mine had a 1st account given back, MTX and all, after like a year+ ban. He just randomly emailed them and they decided to give it back.

[@Tensooni]

Saying "I apologize" isn't an apology. He insulted the crap out of the devs, singled lead dev and said some nasty stuff. Then he's basically sorry that he's being punished. He doesn't want to deal with a smidge of that pressure, so he backs down and tries to hide, without actually directing a single apology to the people he might have hurt. I am glad he is perma banned, because that doesn't seem to be an attitude of someone that is trying to, or wants to, reform. People can get hurt over stuff said on the internet. Have some manners and decency. There are other games in the sea, hopefully he can do better wherever he goes next. But don't come back.

[@Valvad0ss]

He isn’t perma banned which makes this even more ridiculous. They legit banned his account and said make a new one which imo is kind of fucked

[@everythingwow1897]

What disappoints me the most about this nerfing patch is that all my buddies instantly quit the game. PoE was the last frontier where we got together and played ALOT for 1-2 months together each season.

[@anderslarsen4412]

I don't understand why people quit, if a game gets a bit more difficult. It's the same for all players, so nobody gets an advantage. Sounds a bit weak to me honestly.

[@everythingwow1897]

@@anderslarsen4412 I think it has to do with that the core of ARPGs is loot, slowing down loot and making it come in weird spikes is not as fun. But that's just my subjective thought on it.

[@animez7077]

Same thing happened in Smite. There was a guy called DMBrandon who was a super toxic streamer and got perma banned.

[@dangerszewski9816]

I disagree there's NEVER a point that it's going too low to make a personal attack-- but I think the bar has to be out-of-game impact. Calling people personally morally bankrupt for things like abusive anticonsumer practices, kowtowing to repressive regimes like developers bending over to China or continuing to do business in Russia is perfectly fair.

[@iano1638]

PathofMatth was literally one of the few people who actually tried to help make things affordable to the player base, regardless of his melt downs he always had the player base's back. Seriously sucks that he has been banned.

[@trautsj]

This is one of those guys who talks shit and then Pikachu faces when he gets hit. I don't know how you can expect to spew the amount of pure vitriolic anger and hate about something and not expect a measured response from the thing/people you are hitting with that anger. If anything this game is clearly a titanic piece of toxicity removed from his life. Them banning him seems like it would only help his mental state in the long run to be perfectly honest.

[@nodav8234]

Totaly agree. Brillant.

[@kevinkrusen483]

You can’t do a generic apology when your attack is personal. I can’t say something attacking Asmon then apologize using generics like saying I apologize and what I said was wrong, it makes the apology lack the tone needed for a genuine apology.

[@anderslarsen4412]

Also, the "it was just a joke, man", when people face consequences for their abusive comments, gets old fast.

[@Zauriel92]

Reminds me of a lil phrase... "You where f@cking with me, I returned the f@ckening, AND NOW YOU ARE THE ONE WHINING ABOUT IT" 🤣

[@duewhat9815]

Harassment isn't subjective, trash talk and harassment are two different things, if you're going to someone's else's social media or contacting them in some way to berate or intimidate them then that's harassment, talking shit on your own time to people who have nothing to do with it isn't harassment.

[@NoName-mi8js]

Yes, it isn't subjective. Talking shit on stream about people is definitely harassment.

[@dustinlockwood3685]

Harassment is when you seek out an individual. Just because you talk shit doesn't mean it's harassment regardless of whether or not you do it on some type of platform in front of however many people. If I said "ohh that guy is a piece of shit" I'm not going to be arrested, a camera and people watching does not change that. Now if you're following someone around (physically or virtually) and not leaving them alone or actively seeking them out that's a different story.

[@IIMiikexDII]

@@NoName-mi8js You consider any kind of insult harassment don't you?

[@shadowandpain7855]

BTW. He also mentioned Empyrian in his Tweet and the response he got from him is "Yo don't bring me into this lol" XD It says much about how community doesn't want to have anything to do with him.

[@bonez994]

That's such an empy response I love it

[@callingyourphone1212]

Yeah hes also trying to bring in ziz, quinn, cutedog, and 1 other streamer..dude is nothing but drama hope this is the end for him

[@Evelynyr]

Hes making insane comments about a bald guy, while streaming the game is shitting on - would never take this guy seriously - No thinking behind his comments, ofc devs want to make the game fun for there playerbase.. atleast a bunch of people working for gaming companis got the job because they have a passion to make something fun for others.

[@dr34m3r91]

I will take this wisdom to heart. Calling twenty people rtards is better than calling one person a rtard.

[@compulsiveconsumption]

the one thing PoM forgot was, is that Cris was literally his Boss at that time streaming PoE fulltime

[@gigorahk4740]

Don't forget he is also a guy who made most of his money by flipping and taking advantage of less knowledgeable players. Buying misprices items and selling for 10x the value.

[@Scaredpi]

That’s not an argument against him that’s a normal online game action we used to call it marching in runescape

[@Dirty__Dan]

You should not be banned in game for something that happened outside of the game. That is over reach

[@briancho237]

GGG is a decent company. I have dealt with their support staffs multiple times and they have been very helpful every single time. They are also very lenient with their bans, so you would have to do something real bad to get one. I don't agree with their decisions but this dude crossed the line for sure on this one lol.

[@DarmaniLink]

bruh calling someone a bald rard for ruining a game isn't crossing a line that dev was just thin skinned

[@nazgullinux6601]

Actually GGG crossed a line when they banned someone cross platform for boohoo bad words hurting feelings of dev.

[@DarmaniLink]

@@YuYuYuna_ yeah they "can" ban you for hurt fee fees but they shouldn't because that comes with the industry If you don't want criticism make a good game the first time

[@christaylor86]

@@DarmaniLink Theft comes with the industry of owning a shop. You should just let the thieves back in, right? A child has a chance to be bullied at school, but it just comes with the territory of having a family. I get the feeling you're a lot softer than you're letting on. Don't reply to this comment, because it just comes with the industry. You're a hypocrite at best if you respond.

[@DarmaniLink]

@@christaylor86 Last I checked, you can't be arrested for calling someone an idiot and the person doesn't lose anything other than some fee fees by being called an idiot. Being a prominent game developer is like being a celebrity with more responsibility and more responsibility to deliver a good product because many people have sunk a notable percentage of their life into your product. If you're in the public eye, you're going to be insulted. You're going to have your appearance mocked, no matter how you look. If you take it and don't give it any attention, then who cares? If you overreact and have a hissy fit about it, it gets blown into the public spotlight. Like if he wasn't banned nobody would care that some random streamer called some dumb dev a bald rard. You wouldn't care. You wouldn't even know. And why do people care? Because this isn't a normal reaction to it.

[@TheSpicyLeg]

What gets me with these types is how boring their insults are. He didn’t even try to be witty or caustic. It’s just boilerplate middle school tripe.

[@Karashote]

16:35 HORRIBLE fucking take dude...

[@Sidewinder84x]

Im just wondering how he wasnt banned sooner, the devs were being generous to him if you ask me. He seems to have no respect or regard for others, i think its a streamer thing but it shouldnt be tolerated.

[@JohnWittle]

​@Zahdorfi that screen shot *was* faked though, like... i think he deserves to be (temp) banned for this current instance, but it's impossible to look into that past event without being pretty damn convinced that the screen shot was faked, it was clearly made by someone using the dev tool on their browser to edit the raw html of a browser-based discord instance, and they did a really bad job of it, using paragraph breaks instead of linebreaks and stuff like that so the message didn't even line up properly

[@ManMeetsGamez]

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences I am afraid. Yes you can say what you want, but someone will get you for it in the end.

[@Mageblood]

"freedom but you are entirely constrained by dire consequences" is not quite freedom :)

[@anderslarsen4412]

@@Mageblood Of course it is. Nobody's forcing him to not say what he says. And freedom of speech only applies to government censorship. A private company can choose to not have you as a customer, if you're abusive towards their employees. The "I should not face any consequences for my actions", is uniquely American, and quite frankly weak.

[@wayfa13]

@@Mageblood what a dumb take lol.

[@SeruraRenge11]

@@anderslarsen4412 Yes there being no consequences for your words is American, it quite literally is written into the US constitution with the only justifiable violation being the Harm Principle, and it's why I wouldn't want to live anywhere else because why would I want LESS freedom?

[@__DY__]

@@Mageblood wtf “dire consequences”? He got banned from a game not swatted.

[@thisGuy481]

I understand being passionate about your favourite game. But, this streamer is really, deeply unhappy in life. To say that kind of shit ALL the time (while playing the game lol) is just sad, quite frankly.

[@rorhianskall5659]

They said his other accounts will be banned too. Also, they don't unban. I was banned years ago for using script. Asked every Christmas afterwards and apologized, explained that I didn't understood at the time that that's a big deal. They didn't unbanned me.

[@frishter]

Did he actually target that harassment in game? If not, then I think PoE overstepped and I think this cross platform banning is something everyone should be concerned about. Wouldn't surprise me if he was an a-hole in game too, however I still think it's up to platforms to take action eg Twitch suspension/ban. The whole "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences" BS is just promoting an authoritarian society built on a social credit score. Dude clearly needs to chill, but it's none of PoE's business what someone says about them elsewhere. I find it hard to believe that there are many people who haven't vented, it's just most people thankfully don't do it in front of the whole world. Maybe I missed something, but really think about what you're really doing if anyone reading this supports the ban. Society is increasingly recording your actions. Do you really want to be punished because somewhere you offloaded too much? The implications go way too far for my liking. Eventually it will be possible to get rid of people who have anything remotely negative to say about your business which would give an unrealistic representation of your product or services.

[@callingyourphone1212]

Kind of different when youre a streamer and use to be represented on path of exiles website (they were throwing a bone to the 0 viewer andys)...and then not even a year later get banned for target staff harassment..and then a 2nd ban...and then a 3rd ban

[@davev9743]

Your argument makes sense against governments but you don't have a right to play a game. Their are terms to their service and you agree to abide by them.

[@frishter]

@@davev9743 As things get more integrated and big tech companies especially gain power I do think that at some point they will have too much power to cut you off. Already you can see the start of attempting to unperson certain people and the control of what information you are and aren't allowed to spread.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

@@frishter Nah you're just being entitled.

[@frishter]

@@RobotMasterSplash Here's the thing, the message here is that someone is being held accountable for their actions. My message is that they should be held accountable localised to where they infringed. Holding companies accountable is dependant on not facing consequences to calling them out. I don't think it's unfair to expect that if you don't break rules inside the game, you shouldn't be banned in said game. If we legitimise this action, then you might as well legitimise it elsewhere too, and that's what concerns me. For example if I criticise Amazon, Google, or Microsoft, they have quite a strong ability to really hamper my lifestyle given how much they have control over.

[@sekiro3074]

Does Asmon even know what he's saying.. They shouldn't be banning you because you've talked shyt about the Devs.. It would be a different story if he was directly messaging these people online or in-game. -- Omg! Not a personal "attack"? Sounds dangerous.

[@russmanYT]

imagine being so wrapped up in a fucking game that you take it this far.

[@JayBigDadyCy]

Unfortunately a lot of people do. They don't understand the difference between constructive criticism and character assassination.

[@adposatnr178]

some people are so focused on their favorite game hoping for best for it and when they see such changes they might get mad and tilted as fuck

[@adposatnr178]

@@maybeitsyou1317 ofc he should control himself but i understand his frustration after watching interview with chris willson by john strife hayes and then reading all lake of kalandra manifesto tilted me as fuck i understand that game needs to evolve certain things should change and it probably will be good for game but lying to players and wasting their time just because of some PR shit?

[@snaker9er]

This far Lmao

[@MrRaja]

previous bans were for giveaways on his stream deemed as RMT and people just hate him for being the first to kill bosses and being the richest solo player. so they faked a bunch of screenshot to get him banned for discord messages and shit. Also this league he was attacked nonstop all league and bullied by other streamers for his build guide.

[@edwardtan1354]

according to Sseth's video this incidents are as old as cyclic legends in PoE down to forcing commiting sudoku for picking defense over offense I guess the warlord is still right all these years

[@DBrew4xD]

He way overstepped. POE are making a stand using pathofmath as an example since he’s one of the leading toxic streamers. Math had 2 strikes and still pushed his luck. These toxic people also put a strain between the community and the devs

[@Hubbaser]

Calling Bobby Kotick a goblin (or saying that he's looking like one) also is a personal attack, but fortunately Blizzard has less fragile ego

[@weevie_stilfat]

Bobby has done some unspeakable things that are OUTSIDE of games. Not the right comparison in my opinion.

[@Hubbaser]

@@weevie_stilfat those comments started way before whole abuse inside in company and death threats came out, so it's closer than you think. It was after all about ruining games for greater revenue (and don't get me wrong - I think Bobby is PoS considering his actions outside and inside company that were published. I cannot say anything close about Chris)