ASOIAF: Blackfyre Rebellions - History of Westeros Series

A brief history of the Blackfyre Rebellions, from the reign of Aegon IV to the death of Maelys the Monstrous and the possible rise a 6th Blackfyre Rebellion. Based on the series A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin.
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[@ShadowShroud7]

If Aegon really is a Blackfyre, his invasion wouldn't be a "rebellion." The first five rebellions were attempts by the Blackfyres to oust the Targaryens from the throne. But in the books, the Targaryens have been ousted from the throne and House Baratheon/Lannister rules Westeros. You can't rebel against someone who you never owed fealty to nor ever served in the first place.

[@CivilizationEx]

Practically speaking you are correct, but technically there is an argument that it is still a rebellion, in a broader historical context, for the following reason: Robert Baratheon did not claim the Iron Throne by right of conquest, he claimed it on the fact that his grandmother was a Targaryen, and his great grandfather was King Aegon V Targaryen. So technically the Baratheons are in power because of their Targaryen lineage, and while we know Joffrey and Tommen are Lannisters, the world believes they are Baratheons, meaning that the Blackfyres (by a different name: Aegon Targaryen) are still rebelling against the Targaryens (By a different name: House Baratheon). This, imo, allows for it to be called another rebellion, which, given the context, is more interesting than simply referring to it as an invasion.

[@ShadowShroud7]

I see what you mean, however having Targ. Blood doesn't make Robert a Baratheon. Furthermore, his claim through his grandmother was a retroactive stunt made after Robert won the Throne by defeating the Targaryen army. The Rebellion was originally launched in response to Lyanna's kidnapping and the demands for Robert and Ned's deaths after Rickard and Brandon Stark were unlawfully murdered by Aerys. By all practical measures, House Baratheon seized the Throne through Right of Conquest. What's wrong with the Title "Secret Blackfyre Invasion?" That's exactly what's happening if the Blackfyre Theory is true.

[@CivilizationEx]

ShadowShroud7 There's nothing wrong with it, and everything you said is correct, but what I said is also correct, and I prefer to call it a rebellion, so people will associate it with the other 5.

[@ShadowShroud7]

fair enough

[@duckboiii4441]

I think it is a rebellion, as the Iron Throne calls Aegon in the final chapter of DwD a false claimant, which basically labels him as a Usurper

[@0Hammerhead0]

"And sought a return to the days wherer honorable lords and modest ladies roamed the halls of the Red Keep" - So they wanted to make Westeros great again?

[@VMohdude-]

Lucimyr reality has a liberal bias

[@VMohdude-]

Lucimyr its a quote from Rob Corddry, but it was popularized by Stephen Colbert. What part of it doesn’t make sense to you? It means that facts in general are skewed to the left.

[@VMohdude-]

Lucimyr again, he only popularized it. It’s not his quote. Can you read?

[@VMohdude-]

Lucimyr irrelevance? But that quote isn’t wrong tho.

[@VMohdude-]

Lucimyr we’ll just look at various policy positions. More people agree with liberals on what constitutes a “good” policy. Like gay rights, taxing the rich, Medicare for all, legal weed (or all drugs). We’re also phasing out the death penalty, even tho that’s one of the few issues that the American public is conservative on. Also liberals tend to be more for racial equality and don’t believe in a “superior race”. This just gets you called “pc” or whatever by right wingers “some but a lot” and when minorities see that, they think “Damn maybe white liberals are the ones who want to look out for me and not those crazy backwoods conservatives” I’m sure most conservatives like yourself aren’t racist and have nothing against minorities, but whatever the majority percentage is, you can bet that for liberals, that percentage of people who think we’re all equal is higher. I mean come one bro, just ask a black person in America or any minority, “Who’s less likely to be racist to you?” They’ll always choose the white liberal over the white conservative. Is that an accident or do they notice certain behaviors in “your” group that bother them?

[@Quazi-moto]

I can not get enough of this world. Never in my 45 years have I been so enraptured by a fictitious creation. I just started my 4th run through the series of books, and have seen every episode of the show umpteen dozen times. I'm glad I never heard of it until the show came out because I then had 5 huge books worth of stuff to read and learn. If I had found this series in '97, I would have lost my mind waiting around for each book... kinda like I have waiting on TWoW. Thank the gods for channels like this one! They make my sticker peck out.

[@geoffreyauguste6678]

quazzie1 don't worry. There won't be any more books conning our

[@datgangshi]

Yea, but the books TWoW aren’t even finished

[@excessiveone9952]

@@Billythetoaster2004 almost time

[@milesrowe2263]

@@Billythetoaster2004 most like

[@milesrowe2263]

@@Billythetoaster2004 loo

[@timocruz510]

Aegon (young griff) as a blackfyre would be awesome

[@carlomagno7092]

he 100% is a blackfyre pretender

[@luinnoc]

Timo Cruz hes definetely a blackfyre After over a hundred years, we blackfyre will take what is rightfully ours

[@theplayasclub5948]

No he's a Brightflame

[@angrashadow2958]

If you're gonna choose a Fake Aegon theory, then why choose a very weak one that has absolutely no relevance to the story, instead of one that is massively supported by the text and makes sense within the plot, if Aegon is a Brightflame nobody would get what that means, it has no meaning, no purpose, no relevance.

[@scott_mooney15_17]

Uchiha Shadow yes it does. All the blackfyres are dead but relatives of Areion brightflame could be and that would mean he has the strongest claim.

[@Matulite]

Something that doesn't rarely gets mentioned often enough when discussing Daemon's claim is that he arguably had a stronger claim to through throne through his mother than his father. After Baelor, Daena was technically next in line for the throne, but since a previous Great Council decreed a woman couldn't inherit the crown, the throne passed to her uncle, Viserys (Aegon IV's father). Daemon was the nephew of Daeron I and Baelor I, two very popular kings; while Daeron II was their cousin once removed. That, with his legitimisation, would have helped his claim, if only slightly.

[@justiezi]

When they turn this into a show, this has to be the narrative.

[@Lion0fTheDesert]

This should be the basis of the spinoff series

[@alphagamer9505]

@Lomas Longstrider a spin off doesnt have necessarily to be a sequel

[@alphagamer9505]

@Lomas Longstrider I know,but a spin off series could be a prequel or a sequel it doesnt matter

[@obsidian_sharp]

@Lomas Longstrider you know a prequel is still a spin off...

[@brandon_astris]

@@obsidian_sharp So the prequels of Star wars are spin offs?

[@darthbricksempire3606]

@@brandon_astris yes

[@GarrisonHat]

It's because of Daemon Blackfyre that bastards get a bad rap in Westeros. That seemed to be the point of Littlefinger Stannis-ing by reminding Sansa that Jon is her HALF brother.

[@cloecoulter8300]

Jon not sansa brother

[@arawn1061]

A Professor of Ice and Fire this is not the show

[@samthebarb924]

@@arawn1061 Yet it will remain the same

[@RyunosukeHachi]

That was the way of Westeros since the Faith of the Seven gained dominance over the continent, save Dorne, the North, and the Iron Islands. The Faith always preached that bastards were sinful and grasping, and the actions of Daemon didn’t make things better. Much like how the Dance of Dragons cemented the idea that a Queen could not rule Westeros, the Blackfyre Rebellions cemented the idea that all bastards were sinful, grasping, and not to be trusted. The tragedy is that Daemon was used by the nobles at the time to try to rid the court of Dornish influence, and Bittersteel helped convince him solely to support him. To the nobles, if Daemon won, then the Dornish would be gone, and there would be an ideal king on the Iron Throne. If he lost, then it was one less bastard, and his example could be used to show that all bastards were potentially treacherous.

[@cycloneben5902]

"The rightful king, Daemon Blackfyre. The King Who Bore the Sword." Eustace Osgrey

[@nevarraven9048]

I feel bad for Eustace, he lost everything at the Redgrass Field

[@weeoth8380]

at Daemon lll it really must've felt like they'd told Westeros the same joke 3 times in a row

[@mekalunia]

Or maybe Aegon is really a Targaryen that Illirio and Varys are trying to pass as a secret Blackfyre that is just using the Targaryen name as a cover, so they could gain the support of the Golden Company. After all, plots under more plots seem to be their kind of thing.

[@angrashadow2958]

Ehh, very unlikely, that would be overly complicated and unnecessary, also there is no hint, foreshadowing or evidence that there is even more depth to the conspiracy. On top of that Aegon surviving makes no sense whatsoever.

[@admire2010]

He's the mummers dragon, that Dany was warned about

[@magicman3400]

Look I don’t doubt that rhaegar is aegons father just by the description of him he is basically a rhaegar clone but he seems a little young could just be he is slow to mature or we should ask ourselves who his mother is is she truly Elia or a different woman altogether ?

[@shaunenwright7872]

Admire Muchegwa like all prophesy in asoiaf the wording is vague. He might be a mummer’s dragon as in a fake dragon, or he might be the mummer’s dragon as in Varys’ (raised by and identifies with mummers) dragon. So he’s not necessarily a fake.

[@sean5558]

Like on Tropic Thunder “ I’m the dude playing a dude pretending to be another dude”

[@serkevanlannister9882]

The rightful king, Daemon Blackfyre! The king who bore the sword!

[@brokeboiacey5674]

Daeron proved to be a wise and an intellectual king, by filling his small council with wise Maesters and scholars. He united Dorne to the seven kingdoms which no king has ever done before. He even honored the usurper daemon waters by granting him lands, but the bastard responded with treachery and launched a rebellion. A king has no need for a sharp blade, as long he has a sharp mind! All hail his grace Daeron “the good” of house Targaryen. The second of his name, rightful king of the Andals and the first men. Lord of the seven kingdoms and protector of the realm!

[@junioradult6219]

@@brokeboiacey5674 he was absolutely nothing without rivers. Without him daemon would have taken over easily

[@firespur]

Glory to the Black Dragon!

[@duckboiii4441]

Black dragons suck, they lost every single rebellion and (assuming Y. griff is a Targaryen) their last Male member had two god damned heads. They led armies of sellswords to battle in the 3-5th rebellions, the second ‘rebellion’ was a miserable pathetic failure thanks to a child and a bloody hedge knight. The fourth rebellion was clear they had no chance as barely any houses supported them and their whole army and leader was lost while the loyalists lost barely 100 soldiers. The blackfyres are like the children show bad guys who fail every time and act as if somehow they will beat the good guys in the 155th attempt.

[@milesrowe2263]

@@brokeboiacey5674 INDEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!

[@SaintNixam]

I love how Daemon Blackfyre got peer-pressured into starting a fucking revolution😂😂😂

[@JackFroster]

Man I love these videos. This is easily one of the best ASOIAF related content sources on the internet, not just for the quality of the information but how it is so well presented. Keep it up!

[@CivilizationEx]

Thank you! :)

[@ZapatistaRebel1917]

Great video :). Are you planning a video focused on the battle of blackwater?

[@CivilizationEx]

***** Eventually yes, it's on my list

[@Jornunvosk]

Blackfyres: It’s time to attempt our rebellion once more and take our promised throne *Brynden Rivers has joined the chat* Blackfyres: ugh, there’s always the next decade

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

FAegon: "I'm the last Blackfyre descendent!" On the weirwood cave: Bran: "Lord Brynden, what's wrong?" Brynden: "I feel.. A disturbance... In the weirwoods!"

[@fury9018]

They really need to do this as a prequel. I get goosebumps every time I hear about the Battle of the Red Grass Field. Seeing it on screen would be epic af

[@wanderingbufoon]

"We're gonna launch rebellions as many times as we can father children!" Well, if Varys is one of em, I can see why they castrated him.

[@TheGreatRaabsby]

you should do a video with Alt Shift X

[@concept5631]

Not a bad idea

[@beansidhe12]

For some reason I want the aegon and varys blackfyre theories to come true in the future books

[@julianponce1854]

I feel like Varys wouldn't lie to Kevan Lannister right before he killed him

[@TheFiresloth]

In his mind, it could be a twisted kind of mercy, if he thought Kevan really cared about the kingdom.

[@carlomagno7092]

he would because there were children with daggers in the room with him

[@angrashadow2958]

That argument has been debunked ages ago, first of all he never lies, he says that Aegon is alive, which is true, because Aegon Blackfyre is called Aegon, on top of that, it could just be him not risking any information leaking through the children, even though they're supposedly mute, I'm guessing they have the ability to write or use sign language, anyway something like the Blackfyre conspiracy is way too risky, not even mute children can be allowed to know, because if anyone even suspects, not knows, just suspects that Aegon is a Blackfyre, the entire plan is fucked. On top of that even if none of the above was the case, it could just be an inconsistency or GRRM forcing Varys to say that in order to misguide us, because there is just simply way too much evidence that supports Aegon being Blackfyre than there is against it.

[@magicman3400]

Aegon is not a blackfyre he is a targ (or a lyseni possible but I don’t think so) he is the bastard born son between rhaegar and lyanna he is the mummers dragon as he is varys dragon and a dragon pretending to be another he looks just like rhaegar and the golden company support of him isn’t weird at all as they never even knew a blackfyre and why would they care which dragon there great or even great great grandfather supported ? They just want to go to Westeros and press their claims (as for Jon snow he looks just like Ned and Ned says he never once thought of rhaegar in all those years how is this possible if he has his son running around Jon is his son he says so in the first chapter of the book)

[@Spongebrain97]

@@magicman3400 how are u gonna feel when its revealed that aegon is indeed a blackfyre since everything points out to that lol? And nothing supports him being rhaegar and lyannas child especially since the timing would be way off. By the time lyanna presumably have birth, rhaegars children were already dead and the surviving targaryens had already been smuggled out of westeros

[@King_Steffon_II]

I'm a writer working on my very own saga, and I can just hear your voice narrating my work. You're awesome bro

[@CivilizationEx]

Thank you! Good luck on your work :)

[@King_Steffon_II]

+CivilizationEx no problem. Thank you, you're doing us a great service and it's much appreciated bro. I'm a big fan :)

[@duckboiii4441]

What is your saga about?

[@thaequalizer3539]

Civilization Ex, thank you for this video. The Blackfyre Rebellions is something that needed to be further explored more.

[@CivilizationEx]

:)

[@adamgetzendanner]

Absolute love your videos! I already know all the history, but hope you'll put together your videos is so entertaining & awesome! Keep up the good work!

[@MTCoblivsicas12345]

I think HBO should do the Blackfyre Rebellion but get directors who actually will see it through. It would be about 3-4 seasons but if it is done well then it could be great.

[@lastbaratheon8043]

The soundtrack always goes well with your vids.👌🏾👍🏾👏🏾

[@Prince8of8pella]

Keep up these videos I absolutely love them

[@UnknownArtist957]

0:30 seconds in. I'm pretty sure the "scholars" are the guys from GOT Academy. XD

[@CivilizationEx]

:)

[@rickst93]

Well one of them is a scholar... The other one not so much.

[@UnknownArtist957]

+CivilizationEx omg was I right? :D

[@UnknownArtist957]

+Jose Rosly TRUE lol

[@the1andonlytitch]

Anyone else think Westeros looks like a witch in that picture?

[@MrFredstt]

I'm def in support of House Blackfyre

[@theautomator8372]

Hope you enjoy losing all the time.

[@swiftlee4]

been waiting for this

[@gingerlemon865]

Jesus Christ this is so interesting

[@m3dicated]

excellent work, subscribed

[@Olimpico230]

such great work

[@lordbloodraven835]

what a video ! SO SO GOOD.

[@jessetugi6612]

Thanks for clearing that up.

[@stannisthemannisbaratheon1039]

Epic Voice, Epic Music, Epic Video!

[@duckboiii4441]

Stannis The Mannis Baratheon Agreed your grace

[@NoelleDeluneYoga]

Omg the scholars were GoT Academy guys hahaha

[@CivilizationEx]

:)

[@smacky101]

GoT academy and civex are absolutely my favorite channels for game of thrones content. Always awesome. Keep up the great work!

[@robbiedubes]

+smacky preston jacobs is great . civ ex and preston my favs

[@GarrisonHat]

Hilarious.

[@DoOmIsMyNamePWI]

Thanks you for making video about my House!!!

[@rickyellis6062]

I've become obsessed with your videos

[@lanasrj]

truly masterful summary of a most complicated tale...

[@milos6348]

I always wanted to get into blackfyre rebellions, I did in fact knew a lot of them, but such detailed and well explained video I did not see.

[@nevarraven9048]

We only know details about the first, second, and fifth, the other ones are more unknown. Not much has really been revealed about them

[@kulvirbrar4444]

I love your videos!

[@louieariza9341]

I really appreciate your videos, thank you so much! they must take ages to research and put together and animate, you deserve many more subscribers

[@CivilizationEx]

Thanks! :)

[@louieariza9341]

CivilizationEx I've watched so many since discovering you like last month Some of those theories in those 8 vids are crazy tho, who comes up with that stuff haha? And where do you find it? :D

[@CivilizationEx]

Louie Ariza Glad you like them! Those theories are found all over the place, many come from reddit and other forums, as well as youtubers who cover theories.

[@hamadalabdali399]

great vids keep going

[@phillipgurth]

gr8 video as always

[@EpicThe112]

excellent explanation and for the second blackfyre rebellion Tales of dunk and egg explained it towards the end when they encounter Daemon II Blackfyre rightborn Kingof the Andals and the Rhoynar and the first men. Lord Protector of the seven Kingdoms

[@EpioN]

I like how you added drawings of Itamar and Gil from GOT academy as scholars.

[@connormitchell6446]

Im fully on board with Young Griff being a Blackfyre. Also i think Varys may be the brother of Serra Blackfyre, hence why he wants the son of his best friend and his sister on the throne

[@wilbe03]

Great video

[@DroppTheeBass]

Great work as always, love watching your videos, can i ask whats next?

[@CivilizationEx]

Hodor!

[@17Watman]

Black or Red, a Dragon is still a Dragon.

[@TonyStark-bg6np]

17Watman No screw the Blackfyres.

[@bebos1262]

@Lucimyr The Targaryens made that court, so they should take back what they made.

[@francesco8097]

In scales of black, or scales of red, A dragon still has flames.

[@excessiveone9952]

@Lucimyr a couple ended up as Maesters and they rarely made bad kings.

[@nonstopper1410]

great video

[@abthedragon4921]

Sheeesh, what is it with other warriors influencing the leaders of Targaryen enemies!? First it was Aegon the II and his mother during the Dance of the Dragons and then Daemon Blackfyre the I in the first Blackfyre rebellion.

[@stannisthemannisbaratheon1039]

Daemon had the sword…

[@denianal9712]

Only three words for the last theory, three heads of dragon

[@arawn1061]

#teamBlackfyre

[@carlomagno7092]

100% team Blackfyre

[@luinnoc]

Aron Johansson LONG LIVE THE KING WHO BORE THE SWORD

[@omega1397]

Sixth times the charm! If fAegon is a Blackfyre. Which I hope he is.

[@omega1397]

@@Ignisan_66 You're the traitor for supporting Daeron the falseborn, a spindly potbelly who lays with the Dornish. ;P

[@concept5631]

@@carlomagno7092 Hell yeah.

[@maxduran5371]

I love your videos

[@CivilizationEx]

Thank you! :)

[@pietermens5553]

These are awesome video's

[@Aldmeris]

I can't believe they didn't have Aegon Blackfyre/Targaryen in teh shows, that boggles my mind, he's a pretty important character.

[@juanignacioordoqui7539]

This is the best story to make another tv show. After the rebellion they should continue the show with dunk & egg stories with all the political background and wars.

[@hidalgoyakerson1598]

IS this one of the HBO planned spin off shows? no dragons, but damn good stories.

[@crocodileguy4319]

HIdalgo yakerson i don't think so. Mainly becuse we all know how the story will end.

[@bebos1262]

@@crocodileguy4319 I would take this awesome spin off instead of a retarded Long Night prequel. White Walker's most boring shit I've ever seen.

[@kingcerion4503]

I wonder, if the Blackfyre Rebellions were based off the Jacobite Uprisings between 1688 and 1746 (The Blackfyre timeline between 196 and 260)

[@laurenpatterson7659]

GOT Academy! Love the synergy.

[@voodazz]

I could listen to these vids all day if I didn't have to work! lol

[@amba74]

Hey man could you do a Focus video on Roose Bolton? By the way nice videos, keep them coming :)

[@efeolgunsoy9787]

back from the dead, I see..

[@Brandonhayhew]

The book version of stannis baratheon are better then the tv show version

[@adreanalva7055]

Really Really amazing job. The Blackfyre rebellions were explained beautifully. Love the images. If you could have another show after Game of Thrones, set in the ASOIAF universe would you want it to be about one of the Blackfyre Rebellions or the Dance of the Dragons?

[@englishhousecarl9019]

I hope the Blackfyre rebellions are one of the prequel series HBO have in store.

[@ZegetaX1]

Bittersteel was persistent

[@oso2400]

I minor thing you forgot to mention is how Daemon the I had his own coins and some are still in circulation, at least in D&E they are.

[@freeman6231]

Good vid. Whats the background music? Thx

[@NotSkynut]

I have a feeling Blackfyre the sword may be in the possession of Aegon, the one who landed in westeros with the goldern company.

[@ognjengaric2687]

Please read the new Aeron chapter

[@someperson8641]

❤nice

[@wautzer4930]

Can we all appreciatie Daeron II as a King?

[@vanessaandersson3472]

Lov ur vids ☺️ Any personal theories on what happened to the ancestral Targ Sword Blackfire ??? 😊

[@CivilizationEx]

Yes, I believe in the theory talked about at the end of this vid, so I believe Illyrio has the sword Blackfyre, which he inherited after his wife's death.

[@vanessaandersson3472]

Might it be in Illyrios garden in the hand of the statue that Tyrion noticed ??

[@CivilizationEx]

Vanessa Andersson I think it is yes :)

[@vanessaandersson3472]

+CivilizationEx thank u for answering ☺️ lol I started typing before the vid finished my bad 😓

[@EricEnvy]

which episode can that sword or statue be seen? or which chapter? :-) Thanks, Vanessa Andersson.

[@jsull81]

I guess I was wrong, but I thought fAegon would be the 7th blackfyre rebellion?

[@CivilizationEx]

6th, the Blackfyres so far have done 5

[@hiddendagger7291]

Demon blackfire was said to one of the best warrior of westoros and he was very handsome that people used to say he is god among mortals but irony is last blackfire king was said to be malee the monstrous coz he used to look like ugly monster

[@VanOttenJohn]

could u do a video on the island of ib

[@Daemon3rdBlackfyre]

Blackfyres are the true kings of Westeros

[@theblackdouglas7023]

CivilizationEx awesome stuff the Blackfyre Rebellions is a favorite of mine and who was a better hand bloodraven or tywin

[@CivilizationEx]

Personally I think Bloodraven was better and did things of more importance, but Tywin was great too.

[@theblackdouglas7023]

yeah me too tywin didnt face all the challenges that bloodraven did and how do you think bloodraven put down dagon greyjoys rebellion i think he arranged an accident for him and what do you think happened to sheira seastar and did she loved bloodraven

[@cryhavoc124]

Aegon VI Targaryen is definitely not a Blackfyre. There is just no way. Why would Varys support a Blackfyre King? He wouldn't. In fact he kind of unintentionally proves that he is a Targaryen in the fifth book. He does so by declaring for Aegon by killing Pycelle and Ser Kevan.

[@cloecoulter8300]

Yes they should save rhaenys and aegon

[@yehiasaber3732]

I actually have something that I thought would be in the video but surprisingly wasn't It was Illerio 's line to Tyrion when he told him : " Red or Black a Dragon is still a Dragon " I think that line alone speaks volumes as in with both the targaryans and blackfyres almost extinct bloodlines , why would daenerys look at young griff as anything other than an ally , maybe her " slaying the lie " by revealing that he is a blackfyre to all the world would mean nothing to the actual man and the LESSON will finally be learnt that unity for the greater good is what matters not monarchy and bloodlines . I suspect that to be the only real resolution for that entire conflict/arc , and their only shot to defeat the REAL THREAT the white walkers

[@TheFamousDaniel]

Hey, I was wondering when are you doing more LoTR? And what will be next? Cause I love your Lotr videos sooooo much!!!

[@CivilizationEx]

my next LOTR vid will be released next week about the War in the North.

[@TheFamousDaniel]

+CivilizationEx thanks =D I am subbed to you only for lotr man, I've gotten so education in Tolkien's brilliant mind, and I understand it's not your most popular series but I would enjoy seeing them more often :)

[@TheFamousDaniel]

+CivilizationEx and thanks for actually replying to comments! So amazing when yters do that

[@biohybrid_396]

It would be crazy if the golden company turns on cersei and joins Danny in the end.. doubt it will happen, but it would be cool.

[@YoshiiElAttar]

wait i'm confused so the 5th blackfire rebellion was right before Roberts rebellion during the mad kings rule? since the theory at the end says Rhehgar and elia martell's eldest son assuming varys managed help him escape before the events of the lanisters invading kings landing?

[@doesnotexist305]

TheGhoul no it wasn't right before Robert's Rebellion. Aerys II (Mad King) was a prince, Tywin Lannister was only heir to Casterly Rock and so on. It was about 30 (maybe even 40 I can't remember) years before RR.

[@redjirachi1]

Varys is right; lust does ruin the realm

[@leoferwer1813]

Please, GRRM, let the fAegon Blackfyre theory be true ;____;

[@aceybux3438]

Can you do an episode talking about what's beyond sothoryos or essos?

[@thomasmorris4449]

I hope there is nothing beyond sothyros. it would be neat if it was just a giant ocean of jungles.

[@system0fadowner251]

+Thomas Morris The home of the Children of the Forest perhaps?

[@UniversalPotentate]

Maester Ex, clearly one of the Old Town greats, spins the tale of two inbred houses who hate each other because they are more alike than different.

[@PLAYA03CAY]

Hopefully FAegon can claim a dragon for himself!That way nobody would yawn at him for beeing yet another claimant for the iron throne and we can get the Blackfyre Rebellion/Dance of Dragons remix volume 2 !!!

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

It would've be cool and badass if fAegon hatches a dragon of his own (maybe with one of the eggs on the Winterfell crypts that Jacaerys Velaryon and his dragon probably left when they passed there during the Dance of the Dragons) disposal instead of stealing one of Dany's dragons!(and a possible dragon for fAegon could have the colors of Drogon, but inverted, named Serrax)

[@Ghostmite98]

Kinda wish that this could've been one of the game of thrones prequel shows we got, the first targaryen civil war is cool and all since it has dragons involved but I feel exploring the era when dragons weren't a thing anymore at this point in history is a lot more interesting and showing how the targaryens still were able to rule and not be diposed without the aid of their dragons to control the masses.

[@generalcaesar3477]

From the vague statements put out by the showrunner and his commitment to the lore, I think he wants to adapt the Blackfyre Rebellion eventually.

[@QuanNguyen-vw1pu]

Blackfyre rebellion will be parts of the Dunk and Egg show.

[@williamblackfyre4866]

Daeron the Falseborn....love my Blackfyre fam.

[@brokeboiacey5674]

William Blackfyre traitor

[@odin6667]

The Targeryan family tree is so confusing with all the rebellions and bastards and all the different wars that were fought amongst each other... dam they have some issues.

[@aimlash]

lol GoT Academy at 0:30

[@nivu007]

Aegon's (young griff) lineage is it speculation that he is a blackfyre?

[@vincefr.d]

I need help. Where is said that Aegon Targaryen (blackfyre) is a Blackfyre??

[@CivilizationEx]

It is not said anywhere, it is a theory based on clues within the book, we don't know for sure if it's true or not yet, but many think it is.

[@Windiddy]

the sound keeps cutting off

[@trpimirkarlovic838]

Riverlands is like Poland of Westeros.

[@metalgearthekonamipain4946]

Probably one ot the spinoff series.

[@ryansnow2116]

Maelys or Sandoq or Gregor Clegane . Who would win

[@yeahboiiiiii4952]

Maelys would win against both

[@barkley8285]

Dang daemon blackfyre and bittersteel and blood raven all in the same time

[@AhmetOguzArslan]

One question, if Aegon Targaryen is a Blackfyre and Illyrio secrectly supports him, why did he also help Daenerys in the first place?

[@CivilizationEx]

The original plan was for Aegon to marry Dany and invade Westeros together. But Daenerys was taking too long in the east, so Aegon and his people changed the plan and invaded alone.

[@AhmetOguzArslan]

Okay, that makes sense. In this case Aegon (as the grandson of the madking) has the best claim for the iron throne, right ? And a quick second question, what might happen if Tommen dies ? What do you think the Lannisters and Tyrells would do? Would they follow Aegon against Stannis ? ( I assume he will survive against Bolton army )

[@CivilizationEx]

Ahmet Arslan The Lannisters would never follow Aegon, but the Tyrells might. In the case of Tommen dying, the Tyrell's might betray the Lannisters and join Aegon, maybe even offering Queen Margaery (who is still queen) as a wife. And yes if Aegon is a Targaryen, he has the best Targaryen claim, but Stannis had the best Westerosi claim.

[@Brandonhayhew]

+CivilizationEx In my opinion if one were to win the war, there would be later in time, another civil war would come

[@sladestegall9820]

do the timelines of the books/tv show line up??

[@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0]

Not really