Astrology: Fact or Fiction?

A significant percentage of the population believes in astrology. This is the notion that the positions of the stars and planets in the sky at the moment of your birth have an influence on your characteristics, and that their positions over time influence daily events. Can this be possible? By what mechanism does this influence propagate? If it's true, why haven't we encountered anything like this in our study of astronomy? Shouldn't we be able to do experiments to test its validity? We sure can. Let's take a real good look at what astrology proposes, and see if we can to the bottom of whether there is any truth to it or not.
Large-scale study showing no correlation between date of birth and personality: www.sciencedirect.com/science...
Astrologers can't match natal charts to psychological profiles: www.objectiveastrology.net/upl...
More failure by astrologers: www.ingentaconnect.com/conten...
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[@bartonpaullevenson3427]

As a scientist, I can never accept anything as dumb as astrology. I'm a Taurus, and we're very stubborn.

[@therobot1080]

What field?

[@bartonpaullevenson3427]

@@therobot1080 Planetary astronomy.

[@therobot1080]

@@bartonpaullevenson3427 thanks for noticing

[@DM-rc4yu]

@Fuert Neigt Makes sense.

[@VaughanMcCue]

After being constipated, I feel sure I have been a Taurarse too and a hot Uranus after chilli. Giving birth to bowling balls is painful.

[@jb888888888]

Well of course "gravity" doesn't determine your personality when you're born. It's density and buoyancy!

[@TheNinthGenerarion]

Buoyancy requires gravity, it’s literally in the equation

[@isntmypfpbeautiful5350]

@@TheNinthGenerarion hes making fun of flat earthers who say that lol

[@asylumskp4391]

Ummm actually I think you mean Energy Of The Heavens so learn your facts- 💅😌

[@fishcious]

@@asylumskp4391 You mean a thunderstorm? I love thunderstorms!

[@bobw1678]

And refraction. And electromagnetism! Dude Dave, you are SOOOOO far behind on all this, you have nooo idea what you're talking about *stupid stoner chuckling* (And yes, since some people didnt understand the reference when OP made it, this is mocking flat earthers who throw out random words just because they sound scientific, dont explain them or their relevance, then laugh like they just shut you down with their brilliance.)

[@JP-hr8fb]

I told an astrology believer that I didn’t believe in astrology and broke down reasons as to why I didn’t believe in it and they said the typical “that’s such a (my sign) thing to say” and with that response I came to the conclusion that astrology is nothing more than space racism.

[@yellobanana6456]

Spacism

[@prototype_11]

We should make that an actual term (But for real tho, if i ever encounter anyone like that irl imma do a quick save and let them see god fr)

[@xdsagecat3920]

@@prototype_11 frfr

[@alphasushi9178]

Thats my new phrase of the week now

[@alexsandra8421]

😂👏

[@precisecovers2551]

In high school I was talking to this girl in Spanish class every day. One time we had a project together and she asked the question: what is your sign? I told her. She then did the “really? Ugh, we aren’t compatible…” after literally being compatible and it all ended… lol

[@brandonantonio9261]

🤣🤣🤣...well damn! what is your sign btw?

[@precisecovers2551]

@@brandonantonio9261 Haha can’t you tell with the way I wrote my comment that Mars is in retrograde therefore obviously making me an Aquarius ♒️?

[@oldschoolman1444]

Hate when that happens 😂

[@Rawi888]

No dawg she was right, you’re not compatible.

[@Sucellusification]

Her loss

[@EmiCheese]

Dude, that is SUCH a Libra thing to say.

[@christiancarter255]

Lol. I'ma a Libra. I'm calling racism. (;

[@xpercade8926]

I feel ATTACKED reported

[@sueokada6968]

As if it were written in the stars, I happened upon this post in mid swallow while consuming a delicious iced latte. That’s right. I snarfed it all over me, my (now) pissed off cat, and some previously lovely window curtains I’d been fond of. If only my horoscope were slightly more detailed it could’ve warned me off the milk and espresso nose douche in favor of something less likely to stain.

[@Ian_sothejokeworks]

Ha! Too bad he's a Cancer.

[@christiancarter255]

@@Ian_sothejokeworks and hopefully not an esfp

[@vrinnmetagen]

I love how astrology keeps things so vague and broad that every sign fits everyone in some way

[@FakingANerve]

That's how all cold-read cons work.

[@LuisAldamiz]

It doesn't. When I got hooked it was as if I could see my relatives fit in every solar sign almost perfectly: several are Taurus or Gemini and they seem very different to me, they were already connected in pairs in my mind before I began diving into Astrology, so similar they were and so different from not just me but also others in the family. Of course it's not supposed to be just solar signs but these also make some sense, incredibly enough.

[@chaotickreg7024]

@@LuisAldamiz Do you think that maybe you are looking for the answer you want when you look at your family?

[@nerds-nonsense]

@@chaotickreg7024 well my experience is similar to theirs and i can honestly say that for me that isn't the case because the thing that got me into it was how accurate it could be and even then i was hesitant because i don't believe in things without empirical evidence very easily, but it just kept being more accurate than inaccurate and so i could never just say "well this is def bullshit"

[@nerds-nonsense]

it's not tho? have you ever actually seen a chart reading? they can get pretty specific

[@krameleon7345]

I’m an Astrophysicist and my fiancé “believes” in Astrology. We have had conversations on how it’s pseudoscience at best and isn’t really and she completely agrees, but at the end of the day she still chooses to be interested in it because the claims “it’s fun” and she wants to “believe in something.” I’ve found myself enjoying entertaining Astrology, despite knowing it doesn’t actually have any Physical sway on the real world.

[@johnekare8376]

With that relationship to astrology, I'd say it's more akin to being into a fantastical movie or book - on one level you suspend your knowledge that this isn't real, for a duration of time, to enjoy the fantasy.

[@phildavenport4150]

@@johnekare8376 The suspension of disbelief is a great mechanism whereby we can enjoy stories and people that have no place in our real world. It's an excellent way to recapture our childhood without getting lost in it. Sadly, some of us get captured by the narrative and can't escape. Take flat Earth, religious cults and other forms of mind surrender for example.

[@ThePageOfSpace]

@@johnekare8376 I try and tell people it's the sane with the Bible but no one believes me. But somehow they think Astrology is any different from their magical book.

[@Rudxain]

​@@johnekare8376 Exactly. That's the healthiest approach to religion, to be aware it's just a fantasy, and use it temporarily to "escape issues in the real world" or just as a way to kill boredom. It's sad that a lot of people trap themselves with mental chains, even for the rest of their life. My grandma is like that, she wastes her life everyday watching 3 or 4 masses on TV, or directly going to church. It's impressing and depressing

[@mv848]

Honestly I would never date someone who is *really* into astrology. That's borderline psychotic (law of attraction, astrology, God, religion, supernatural...) and usually gets worse over time. Ppl sink deeper and deeper...

[@stringedaz]

I happen to be a fraternal twin. 12/21/1985. We are almost NOTHING alike. For me, that was "book closed" on astrology. I love this guy.

[@joanna0988]

But your birth times are different no? 😅

[@sohanaiyappa3515]

​@@joanna0988the difference can't be more than minute at most

[@Chance57]

​@@joanna0988if literal seconds count, astrology is absolutely pointless unless you add a few thousand more signs.

[@planetcaravan2925]

We dont believe you

[@thatoneguy5043]

@@planetcaravan2925 who's we? and are you gonna deny that fraternal twins exist?

[@jarrysciligo5395]

Confirmation bias: My horoscope was wrong, meh. My horoscope was wrong, meh. My horoscope was wrong, meh. My horoscope was wrong, meh. My horoscope was wrong, meh. My horoscope was wrong, meh. My horoscope was wrong, meh. My horoscope was wrong, meh. My horoscope was wrong, meh. My horoscope was wrong, meh. OMG! It was so right today. OMG, this shit is so real!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!1 My horoscope was wrong, meh. My horoscope was wrong, meh. My horoscope was wrong, meh. ....

[@EnverWasHere]

HAHAH TRUE 14 year olds rlly be like: ^^

[@georgeb5262]

I mean either this or they use so common things like: "Today you gonna have problems in the work place". I mean almost everyday at work there is some kind of problems, even if not that big. Also if you believe in those things, you really will find something to connect with this. This is in the phycology. You change your mindset so you will focus to find something like what they said. "You will have good luck today" - Everyday there is good and bad luck. You will just focus only on good things and ignore bad. You get it?

[@FakingANerve]

Served with a dash of cognitive dissonance. Tasty.

[@mrxmry3264]

@@user-mc6tq7xb2q The flat earth is just like astrology - TOTAL BULLSHIT.

[@scottgrohs5940]

As a very wise man once sang: “the stars predict that tomorrow you’ll wake up, do a bunch of stuff and then go back to sleep.”

[@VaguelyCanadian]

"Big career move today!" "Nope, I got fired" sounds like a pretty big career move to me

[@guytheincognito4186]

Just more evidence it's bunk, if it was real they would know wether the move would be positive or negative. Leaving it that vague allows any move to be labled as the predicted one lol

[@munstrumridcully]

@@guytheincognito4186 that's the point, it's the Nostradamus/Qur'an/Bible method of prophecy : make it so vague that pretty much _any_ outcome can be said to be the predicted one 😊

[@guytheincognito4186]

@@munstrumridcully Exactly.😁

[@adrianbundy3249]

@Trebuchet I've walked out of some jobs voluntarily I wasn't happy with; without any lifeline of another job in waiting. I still think it was the best thing I could have done in that situation, and so many people are so afraid of the consequences, that they stick themselves in a much worse, longer term situation, where a year later, they would already be well better off in all likelihood.

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

The Doom From Latveria I agree. This is specially true if your health is on the line.

[@rehab_reject]

Broke up with a girl once because she said "astrology is a science".

[@kosh9019]

just not a western science

[@rehab_reject]

@kosh9019 no, it's not a science. Where you are in the world does not affect whether something is science or not.

[@kosh9019]

@@rehab_reject ancient sciences g, the world is demystified and reduced to strictly material consumerism. don't get me wrong modern science is amazing and ive dedicated my life to it, but we are not the first advance civilisation and in a lot of ways were not as advance as the civilisations before us

[@kosh9019]

@@rehab_reject my replys are being censored, we knew a lot from the stars thousands of years ago and a lot has been lost. read the cosmic serpent if u want a idea of how ancients knew it all before the west did

[@michaeldorathy3295]

Horoscopes are nonsense. Astrology is a system of an ancient calendar, using constellations.

[@Busto]

Your ability to mimic, not just the aesthetic of 80's science videos, but their entire style & essence is a thing of wonder & joy! Thank you

[@jocofnazareth]

Dam bill Nye was the 80s???

[@SzadoB]

The fact that we need to explain this to adults is sad

[@jiglf330]

Yup and double yup

[@bruh____784]

@@jiglf330 Yup²

[@dineshkondvilkar3436]

(yup²)²

[@nagarjunkashyap5987]

I disagree. Astrology, despite being false Is a centuries old belief shared by millions. It is difficult to remove such a deep rooted belief from their brains. Think about this. Just 50 years ago, in most places it would be taboo to not believe in a lot of these beliefs. Now, with the internet, it is way easier to educate people. The fact that we have to explain this to adults is good, not sad.

[@SzadoB]

@@nagarjunkashyap5987 it's not good because it only shows how stupid we can be when not educated even while you can educate yourself whenever you want.

[@chip5892]

Horoscope: *You will have to make an important choice today* . Me in the store, wondering which ice cream flavour to buy: The prophecies! THEY WERE TRUE!

[@fishcious]

I know right! I had the exact same experience - I was sitting at the bonfire wondering whether to eat the small child or the puppy!

[@annee547]

@@fishcious the- the what..?

[@ferociousmaliciousghost]

@@fishcious That's easy! Eat both.

[@j.r.bobdobbs7763]

Your love life will run into some trouble When your fiancé Hurles javelin through your chest

[@MominEnjoyer]

Horoscope: You will find a good friend today Me befriending with a NPC in a Singleplayer game: Yes

[@Gameknight2169]

I love how he proposes possible counterarguments, defeats them, and then repeatedly goes, "Still not convinced? Here's more evidence. I'm going to put more nails in this coffin than you would ever expect because this needs to fucking go."

[@nicholasfitz]

When I was younger and more impressionable I was interested in astrology. As I got older, it just doesn't hold the same weight as it once did in my mind. It's not science. At best, it's a way for people to socialize in my opinion.

[@arcflamearcanum7579]

Astrolgers: (Looks up at the night sky). "Thank you for changing my life" Some random star in the sky: "I'm literally just vibing"

[@reinatr4848]

"I'm a f***ing plasma fireball are you ok"

[@beezmanit2683]

@@reinatr4848 *gaint, hot and bright plasma

[@netherwolves3412]

@@beezmanit2683 heyyy it’s a country ball

[@joelrauch9884]

I literally exploded 400 million years ago, are you ok?

[@kmmadupu8161]

😂😂

[@yellobanana6456]

This reminds me of when I was little and found out I was a libra, and I was mad because all the other signs had some sort of animal and mine just had a measuring tool

[@illi6378]

"I'm a libra but i identify as a mountaingoat" is my go-to answer. If they can make stuff up, why can't I?

[@Shannon4710]

I actually had the opposite problem. I was a bit jealous of how cool the libra picture looked while I was just a leo.

[@agenti4734]

@@Shannon4710 i thought my centaur was cool

[@randomina465]

Cry me a river I'm Gemini i have no idea what Gemini is is it two people or something 😭😭😭

[@illi6378]

@@randomina465 its a warhammer, but instead of a handle, it's a flaccid penis. Because geminis are notorious for acting dicky in the months of june-may

[@heretustay]

as a leftist and feminist who believes science is a key pillar to equality and freedom for all people-and having to deal with SO MANY of my comrades who deeply believe in this shit-this video gave me a sense of catharsis that nearly brought me to tears. mysticism and religion is so dumbfoundingly strong right now across all political alignments, its just scary. we will never find the answers for worldwide peace and happiness until we leave these ancient, dogmatic, and harmful ways of thinking behind.

[@heretustay]

i think i just realized i'm autistic

[@MorganRyo]

@@heretustaybasically definitely, that's not an insult, i'm autistic too and this is the way a lot of us think, intense emotion regarding logic and patterns

[@0The_Farlander0]

I may be biased, but I grew up on astronomy. So many constellations I used to be able to identify and name. Astrology just never had the same pull for me. I think it comes from the notion that while we are separated by gulfs of space and time that are insurmountable for humans, those stars and planets are real, physical places. If you were to be invulnerable and teleported out to the surface of a distant star, you would be in a real place that exists. Astrology just muddles and mystifies something that needs none of that.

[@AV4Life]

My Astronomer teacher, on the first day of class, the first thing we did was debunk astrology collectively as a class.

[@tonythegamer837]

Sounds like a super fun class

[@rickkwitkoski1976]

GOOD TEACHER!

[@myaranche]

what a narrow minded human stuck in neanderthal age

[@not_porter]

that's the teacher i want

[@OsvaldoBayerista]

@@myaranche no you are the one stuck in pre rational magic thinking systems.

[@kratoselricsuzumiya8345]

I completely disagree. The position of stars has had a massive effect on my life. More specifically the positions have cause annoying and gullible people to spew nonsense at me.

[@peNdantry]

That's total bollocks.

[@unwono]

Good one

[@christopherherr7561]

Had us in the first half

[@user-sy1ei5mn2l]

lmaaoo

[@alcoholic2412]

Sarcasm...I like it.

[@Oceananswer]

Dang I went from watching your videos to pass my Physics class in undergrad, now you’re making skeptic videos. Keep up the good work!

[@toddpaul2228]

"I use astrology to pick which women to date". "If they believe in it, they are not for me"! Emo Phillips

[@Rafaga777]

Previously debunking flat earth theory and now astrology. I really like these debunking videos. Thanks for the upload...

[@abhrajitdhar4628]

@mountaingoat1003 r/whooosh man he's joking

[@abhrajitdhar4628]

@p lr who is

[@abhrajitdhar4628]

@@Boytoru1 there is no way a person who watches film theory can be a flatearther

[@aryanayush136]

@p lr You are just looking for excuses

[@0devildante0]

@p lr nobody commented ANYTHING now that you've brought SCIENTIFIC research (peer-reviewed even). 😂😂😂😂😂 What a group of wannabe smart asses.

[@equalssign44]

“...Imagine if instead of this horoscope, you got the following: *you are a Virgo. You expect too much from others, are lazy, arrogant and extremely rude and hateful. You have no real friends and your current ones are hopelessly sentimental. Virgos make good doorsteps* " -psychology textbook, 1987

[@lasolady]

hey that's true! crazy how Bering statements do that.

[@silursmq5511]

As a virgo, I find this extremely hurtf... jk I don't give a crap

[@TheArgentinianStealer]

Is funny because virgo in someplace's means virgin(more naturatly in latinamérica)

[@EdSchroedinger]

...writing this is a: how to get kicked out of your privileged position as a newspaper intern

[@randynichols5460]

exactly

[@privatehuff]

Going back to older stuff in 2022 it's wild how Dave has really refined his delivery over time 👍

[@notraidenshogun8324]

I have been a subscriber of ur channel from back in 2017 around 2018.. and I'm so happy to see u have grown so well professor Dave!! I'm so happy for u

[@rudra62]

I had a benefit from astrology, which I believed in as a teenager. Wanting to know how it worked, and figure an astrological chart, I had to learn trigonometry. Due to changing schools at just the wrong time, I skipped trigonometry class. I went right from Algebra 3 to Analytic Geometry - which assumed I knew trig. And, I did, thanks to learning astrology. Then I grew up. I dumped astrology, and studied calculus and computer science. :)

[@horokush123]

thats likely one of the few benefits of pseudosciences tbh

[@henry-thepizzaeater-morgan704]

That's rad

[@ikilledaman]

Nice

[@isagiyoichi5207]

This man is a legend for using pseudoscience as a step up tool lol

[@arjunjain5714]

Check your chart, it will be reflected on it. :)

[@remyrichardson8614]

"Libras will eat something today." "OMG STACY I WILL EAT SOMETHING TODAY!"

[@red2theelectricboogaloo961]

what a prediction. honestly

[@santiagoimbachi6381]

Well, what if it's in Africa?

[@remyrichardson8614]

@@santiagoimbachi6381 I'm sorry, what?

[@santiagoimbachi6381]

@@remyrichardson8614 what? 👀

[@red2theelectricboogaloo961]

@@santiagoimbachi6381 so what about africa

[@stage515]

These videos are kinda theraputic in a way; there's something about breaking down silly ideas with actual science that's just so entertaining. Very good video, i'm enjoying it so far.

[@timothybrown5999]

I’m guessing most believers in astrology have never known someone born on the same day as them. Makes the differences between us easier to spot.

[@Georg3e]

Or twins

[@theanti-veela-leprechaun]

One of my schoolmates and I were born the same day, same hospital, 40 minutes apart. We couldn’t be more different and our life experiences are not the same at all. But hey, we once both got a dog at some point in our life, so, ASTROLOGY

[@robinchesterfield42]

First of all, your username is amazing. (Anti-Veela leprechaun of the Shire lol) Secondly, I once found somebody on a messageboard who, in terms of birthdays, was about that close to when I was born but a dude, in Australia. We even had similar colouring, long hair and glasses and were both left-handed. GASP! MAGIC! Or a fun coincidence. "What would I be like with a different gender and accent?" Well now I know. And that's cool. But freaking stars and planets had nothing to do with it. They're just hangin' out in space, being stars and planets.

[@theanti-veela-leprechaun]

@@robinchesterfield42 FINALLY ANOTHER PERSON GETS MY USERNAME 🤣

[@bait5257]

@@theanti-veela-leprechaun plz explain your name

[@theanti-veela-leprechaun]

@@bait5257 it’s from Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings. In Harry Potter, Harry went to the Quidditch World Cup, and the two teams playing were Ireland and Bulgaria, and to represent their country, both brought a non-human species from their country. Ireland brought leprechauns and Bulgaria brought Veelas, but when Ireland started to win, the veelas threw a fit and tried to mess up the match, so as a person with a lot of Irish blood, I sided with the leprechauns, and the shire is a place from middle earth, in LotR, hence The anti-Veela leprechaun of the Shire.

[@bait5257]

@@theanti-veela-leprechaun wow. That's an amazing and well thought name. Shame i had no idea of these things even tho i have watched both of them and big fan of fantasy like lotr, berserk, asoiaf

[@markchip1]

I was expecting you to include the fact that the precession of the stars over years would mean that one star sign becomes an entirely different sign over the centuries!!!

[@LuisAldamiz]

That depends on whether you use Western or Indian Astrology. The Indian tradition does account for precession, while the Western one totally ignores it because it considers the signs as natural months of Earth, not as true stellar references.

[@shivammishra1720]

@Filippo Poluzzi But aren't those zodiac signs fixed in astrology for thousands of years. And I never get the point why they used 12 zodiac signs. Even in Indian jyotisha they divide it into 12 Rashis. I never get the point why only 12 zodiac signs?

[@HybridGib]

@@shivammishra1720 Yeah, they use 12 signs because they fit into periods of the year, Ig that's probably why, but then the Ophiuchus sign makes no sense there 😂 Haven't read up on how they came up with the Ophiuchus sign, tho

[@shivammishra1720]

@@HybridGib Astrology will never work does not matter whether it's indian or Western because as professor Dave asked how does gravity affects someone birth? It's like stars are conscious and they are continuously checking what the person is doing on earth "oh Shivam is watching adult film today we will make sure he gets punished today" . I mean a thing which is so far away from us and is so massive that we would look like ants cares about what these ants are doing does not make any sense to me. Your comment did make me laugh a bit thanks for that 😂.

[@HybridGib]

@@shivammishra1720 Yeah, yours was humorous as well 😂👌

[@KBXband]

My ex was a cancer just like me and she broke up with me because she said I "smothered" her. I literally saw her once every month and we communicated via text, all of which I initiated because she never wanted to talk to me. She used astrology as a reason she couldn't be going out with me and I wondered why I didnt break up with her sooner.

[@MechEngineer37]

Your ex was a cancer, but also your ex was cancer. Funny how that works

[@Mo.1988]

Lmaoooo

[@oldschoolman1444]

Sounds like you are better off without her.

[@Amazingz874]

This is similar to example like, twins born in same day and time, but different personalities. That’s one of the reasons, IT’S FAKE.

[@FaptainCalcon750]

Taking astrology super seriously is a big red flag for me in dating.

[@couldntgetagoodname]

I heard an interesting argument for astrology, at least historically, and only pertaining to personality. The concept is that if you go back in time, to a agrarian or hunter-gatherer type society, the time of year of your birth might influence your personalities based on the seasonal flow of time, but also depends on a nurture-centric view of the nature-nurture discussion of personal development. Like a child born in spring, when food stores from the previous season are running low, and maybe game is harder to find might go hungry, where a child born after harvest might have a different temperament by virtue of them having more ready access to food. The assignment is arbitrary, but tagging them to annual cycles (whether that be a month, zodiac sign, or other predictable pieces) might have some bearing. At least in the past

[@looool6402]

"at least in the past" no shit the past has bad sources there is no science

[@couldntgetagoodname]

@Gjergj Kastrioti “insightful”

[@couldntgetagoodname]

@Gjergj Kastrioti I'm not insinuating that my comment was insightful, I'm sarcastically saying yours was. Sorry that it didn't come across that way. But maybe try critical reading? I said, "the time of year of your birth might influence your personalities based on the seasonal flow of time, but also depends on a nurture-centric view of the nature-nurture discussion of personal development." You seem to be projecting. At no point did I make the argument that "your personality and destiny" are determined by your birthdate. Conversely, I'm saying in a pre-industrial world, the time of year (note I'm not saying date) can have an influence (influences are not predestinations) on personality. True, so does society, education, religion, and culture. But astrology, as it's presented here, is utilized by Europeans. In a pre-industrial Europe, are overwhelmingly agrarian, Christian, and uneducated, and while not culturally monolithic, they were more similar to each other than to other regions of the world. I'm not sure why by historical prospective, that I identified as a *historical prospective* in the first sentence bothers you so.

[@couldntgetagoodname]

@Gjergj Kastrioti Never said I was, I suggested you critically read. I'm not even claiming ownership of the concept. But go stew some more, buddy.

[@Anatta-Phi]

@@couldntgetagoodname don't worry, kid is a fundamentally incurious and obnoxious person. You made no failing in the debate, and your point stands. Natural environments DO have predictable as well as random effects on pre-natal and childhood development. You aren't at all wrong, and this guy doesn't seem capable of much "thought outside the box". Be Love. Be Free.

[@moosewastaken3893]

Astorlogy: You will breathe tommorow People: OMG I'M SUCH A CAPRISUN!!!

[@lupo3555]

Caprisun. Love it.

[@Magekind]

I'm a Lumpenoid! We're practically compatible!

[@bettercalldelta]

Caprisun lmao

[@nicolasgomez6637]

HEY!!! WHERE MY JUICY JUICE DUDES AT???

[@dascreeb5205]

Sorry for COMMITING THE LARGEST MASS EXTINCTION EVENT EVER I'm such a librarian 💅.

[@HybridGib]

Another factor to consider is that different cultures have different astrological systems which would open them up to contradictions; for example, a couple's Greek horoscopes may indicate they're a good match while their Chinese horoscopes might indicate that they shouldn't be together. Any supernatural belief system has the inherent potential for contradictions.

[@HybridGib]

@@PS-qn4oz Yeah, I guess most critics mainly focus on religion since that's what affects most people at a much higher level than astrology, so the ones that do are more educated on religious beliefs than astrology I don't really know a whole lot about each astrology system, I just happen to remember the Chinese horoscopes from having been to sit-down Chinese restaurants at a young age 😂

[@lohengramm7798]

@@PS-qn4oz ok sire please educate me about astrology I'm open to all genuine wisdom.

[@dascreeb5205]

Yeah, my parents shouldn't go together according to their space magic stuff. Yet they are the most wholesome relationship I have ever seen. He had abusive parents, did drugs and all of that, lived on the streets for a while, his grandparents and uncles that he loved died. My mum picked him up, helped him, they got in a relationship, BOOM. They spend all day laughing. Astrology is bullshit, don't let it affect you.

[@HybridGib]

@@dascreeb5205 That is a comment from a higher dimension right there 👌😤

[@AlDunbar]

As a youngster I had an interest in astrology - not belief, more like curiosity. One year I stayed with relatives in a town having two newspapers. It didn't take long for me to figure out that the horoscopes printed in the two newspapers differed very significantly. Years later, my son got a job writing horoscopes for some magazine. He made them up off the top of his head, but his horoscopes were apparently popular. I was glad when he quit.

[@bobbobson2291]

Dave, I just sorted comments by new, and seeing your replies made my day

[@thetherrannative]

There's a difference between believing for fun and believing for real. You can enjoy pseudoscience all you want, but as soon as you start rejecting reality, it's gone too far.

[@thetherrannative]

@@mrteco4236 Knowing the true nature of stars ties in with knowledge of chemistry, physics that affect our own planet, our future as it pertains to potential events such as gamma ray bursts or extreme solar flares, and (perhaps most importantly!) how we are one day going to reach other planets and the stars beyond, because that relies on gravity and motion relative to the sun and other planets' orbits. Knowing the stars and how they work is _extremely_ relevant. Never mind that knowledge of real science in general removes the misunderstandings con men use to steal your mind and money. That one's pretty big.

[@projectb6573]

@@mrteco4236 As Dave explained in the end of the video if a person with more power, such as the president of the USA believe in things like astrology or horoscopes it could end with large consequences.

[@zebragoboom]

@@mrteco4236 "true nature of stars" haha ur funny and dumb

[@LightHalcyon]

If there is one positive takeaway from my astrology phase in middle school: I learned where all the zodiac constellations are and I can usually spot the planets that are visible to the naked eye 😅

[@filipe.sm31]

How can you spot the planets if you can't see them? I'm curious

[@gordonfan1095]

​@@filipe.sm31 Do you mean how can you distinguish them from stars without magnification? I'm personally not a planet spotting expert, but I can usually tell a planet from a star when I see one. There are phone apps that can help guide you to find planets and constellations, and with a bit of practice and the knowledge of where/when to look in the sky and what to look for, most if not all of the five closest planets are visible to the naked eye at some point during a clear night. They all appear very bright which makes them pretty easy to pick out, and they don't twinkle like stars do. With binoculars or a telescope it's even easier to tell that they are not just very bright stars.

[@filipe.sm31]

@@gordonfan1095 oh, I read again an I misread it yesterday. I thought he had said he could spot planets that aren"t visible to the naked eye

[@sunnywunny]

is that a geometry dash reference?

[@henry-thepizzaeater-morgan704]

That's pretty cool

[@SHITHAPPENSLIKABOSS]

"Astrology today can be regarded as a flavour of self-help" is the best description of modern day astrology

[@kjell159]

@Les Brown Dandelions are actually used medicinally and are pretty nutritious as a green leafy vegetable. When you pick them before they bloom they taste a bit like lettuce or a bit like spinach. The leaves are rich in certain minerals. (like most leafy vegetables) The roots can be roasted to make a caffeine free coffee alternative similar to chicory root. When it comes to medicinal benefits, dandelion is for example rich in pythosterols.

[@peterbartley9155]

Except it does not brill at all.

[@jaqjaq101]

I would agree with this

[@cxx23]

@@kjell159 I've had the coffee alternative. It's good stuff. A very different flavor to coffee but I enjoyed it. I would say its nuttier.

[@robertplatt1693]

"People buying books by other people for advice. That's not self- help, that's help!" -George Carlin

[@FROZENbender]

I love the way you teach, dave. it's inspiring. It's definitely made me a better teacher and I think also a better person.

[@presw2pw123]

"You're so interesting! What sign are you?" "Well, if you believe in all that, you tell me!" "OK! You're an Aries!" "No" "You're a Libra!" "No" "Oh! I know. Sagittarius! Right?" "No" Usually takes about 9-12 guesses to NAIL IT! I'm a Pisces, and I approved this message

[@looool6402]

12? bruh that is an entire year lmao

[@snatchX626]

i like how, when professor dave is debunking pseudoscience, he sounds more annoyed than usual 😄

[@mrxmry3264]

i can understand how he'd bee annoyed that they waste time on that anti-scientific bullshit instead of doing something useful.

[@OsvaldoBayerista]

Lol, when i think in this things i always get annoyed at some point.

[@mr.commonsense]

We all are

[@88HELLJUMPER88]

If you listen to the debunking videos in chronological order, you can actually really hear this. At first it's sort of a jovial pride in his knowledge and understanding of the universe. But after the flat earthers in particular start attacking him, he seems to get a lot more cynical in his responses. I think he loses a little faith in humanity every time he gets berated by uneducated people for trying to teach fairly basic principles of reality.

[@OsvaldoBayerista]

@@88HELLJUMPER88 yeah, and how to not loose faith in humanity, we are drowning in fake news and pseudoscience, we are really doomed

[@ianirwin9480]

The worst thing about astrology is the link to homeopathy and quack medicines

[@FakingANerve]

Birds of a feather...

[@pepitaj13]

Thank you!

[@amitwieder5706]

Let’s not forget about crystals lmao

[@robinchesterfield42]

Hey hun! Would you like to be your own boss babe? Check out these essential oils, which are totally a real cure for everything! I gave them to my unvaccinated kids, and the 3 that survived are doing great! ...again, birds of a feather...

[@heictorbellato4894]

"Astrology is flat earth socially accepted" - some guy

[@dogwalker666]

Santos would be that guy.

[@PresidentJeanAuguste]

Shit, its all coming together

[@regionalflyer]

Fiction. I just saved everyone 18 minutes 👍🏻

[@Lexi2019AURORA]

Yes

[@TheRenofox]

"The most vital part of a rain dance is timing."

[@RuyVuusen]

It is best done when it's not too sunny out and there's plenty of clouds, preferably big and dark ones - it's also good to do it only after checking the weather forecast. Additionally the best timing is when it's drizzling.

[@Boufty]

Early 1939, a French journal had as its headline : "Astrologists are unanimous : there will be no war in 1939 !"

[@vascomanteigas9433]

Hitler only invaded France on 1940...

[@shadowxxe]

@@vascomanteigas9433 yes but war was declared in 1939

[@yellobanana6456]

boy, were they wrong

[@karlsaintlucy]

One discussion I find kind of interesting is the idea that the region, climate, and season of a person's birth can have measurable developmental effects on people; I'd be interested to see if there's any correlation on that front.

[@5superhombre]

Correlation doesn’t necessarily mean any relationship at all.

[@phildavenport4150]

@@5superhombre The only value of correlation is to suggest an avenue or so for further research. Plenty of exploratory research has thrown up unexpected (or even suspected) correlations, both negative and positive, that has led to fruitful explication of hitherto unknown relationships between variables via experimentation. Factor analysis of complex data sets, for instance.

[@germanmemerboi3157]

I mean, the climate may have affect on culture and daily habits, which may have effects on the effects of someone born there, right? Correlation and not causation maybe?

[@_robinmc__-thesteve5380]

This was so well made and hit every angle so well. Can't believe this if you made more politics videos you would be destroying people, you have an ability with destroying stupid things to the complete extent they can be ridiculed without trying to ridicule anything, and actually stating what your motif is - the noble cause of improving humanity. Cheers to that.

[@philipeli]

My girlfriend believes in astrology and tries to convince me it is true every day. I'm very good in math and science so I see it for what it is.. a way to bs gullible people...

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

make her watch this!

[@TheScarab117]

After watching this she should then watch the James Randi experiment on astrology. I have converted so many people with that video.

[@TheScarab117]

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[@Author-dad-veteran]

I’d be interested to hear what her arguments are, apart from “but this happened to me and my glossy magazine said it would”

[@AM-rq1no]

get a new girlfriend

[@cousinparty7266]

I always viewed astrology as a personality test; it's not completely accurate but it was entertaining to try. It wasn't until a month ago that I realize that people actually take it like gospel. I really want to deny it.

[@_enite_]

Yeah that's how I view it, yeah there are extremes in the astrology uh community? But isn't there extremes in every community like religion and so fourth?

[@jaythesiren]

@@_enite_ and they're nit hurting anyone. Who cares.

[@janX9]

@@jaythesiren Wrong. Misinformation is hurting people.

[@jaythesiren]

@@janX9 how

[@janX9]

@@jaythesiren I have a little personal experience that I'm not going to get into. However, in short I will say, it wastes people's time, energy, money and lives away.

[@tekman2000]

Thank you so VERY much Professor Dave for thoroughly vocalizing my exact thoughts on the subject of astrology especially your final comments about “growing up as a species”. Ever since I was a young man I have been hoping for humans to mature, leave outdated superstitious behind and to work together in a peaceful and scientific way. You are extremely intelligent and thank you for all your efforts 😀

[@ajclannachan]

Just need religion to go too, but can’t see that happening any time soon.

[@lennyl6797]

it was included

[@Jzombi301]

@@ajclannachan i do see religion slowly dying which gives me hope. i mean think about its influence now compared to how it was even in the 18-1900s. its not happening fast enough tho and organized religion still has a very powerful presence and/or hold over many different societies. also, with the help of the internet spreading misinformation, and a lack of science literacy, more and more people are inclined to believe in pseudoscience and conspiracies

[@abizarreuser9067]

I don't think superstitions and beliefs will ever go. But when it does, then that's the day humanity go extinct

[@b1battledroid882]

​@@abizarreuser9067 I agree. Our ancestors that could see and correlate patterns (like how predators might come out at specific times) tend to survive better than those that didn't, and so it was passed on. Patterns to the human mind could be just 2 events that were similar and had similar outcomes, and since, statistically that WILL happen at some point, humans will always have untrue views of the world based on only a few examples.

[@Owen_loves_Butters]

Regarding his point at the end, I am firmly of the opinion that 9 times out of 10, the true nature of things is thousands of times more interesting than the best fantasy that could ever be written.

[@Uhlan_]

When the planets are in certain positions in the night sky, I take out my telescope and look at them - I submit that the planets do indeed have an effect on events here on Earth. :)

[@Vox_Popul1]

Been wanting to get a telescope

[@nowthatsjustducky]

I propose that the third brightest star in the Zodiac constellation of Capricorn, Gamma Capricorni start being referred to as Goat C. After all, isn't that what it translates to in "common" English?

[@Zethneralith]

@@nowthatsjustducky This comment deserves more attention. XD

[@dascreeb5205]

Oh yeah, this is big brain time.

[@projectbreadwinners2942]

Nice lol

[@phantomshark]

My brother and his girlfriend are pretty serious into astrology. They are otherwise intelligent people. It drive me crazy.

[@alejandrobaronperalta4374]

if they believe that they arent

[@EnverWasHere]

show him and his girlfriend this video

[@TheSunMoon]

Nth to do with intelligence.

[@Toxicity1987]

Just tell them their actual signs, the usual sign table, that the Horoscopes mostly uses, are very wrong. Just that allone should blow their minds.

[@realmothbuterfli]

@@alejandrobaronperalta4374 you can be intelligent and gullible...

[@codonbyte]

The ending was absolutely beautiful.

[@PureLogic777]

I once briefly dated a girl that had an astrology book on 365 birthdays. For each birthday it included a list of a few other "soulmate birthdays". She asked my birthday and was like "OMG! You're my soul mate!", and embarrassed me by excitedly telling others that we are soulmates. lol

[@palpatine6197]

I see why the relationship was brief

[@thunderd7904]

@@palpatine6197HA!

[@DarkStar-os9pv]

I tell my astrology tolerant acquaintances the reason I don't believe in it, is because I simply cannot accept the notion that one twelfth of the world's population is having as crappy day as I am.

[@LuisAldamiz]

Per actual Astrology it'd be many many less: precision to the degree is used in "serious Astrology" and it does not only depend on the position of the Sun in your birth chart but all planets, ascendant, etc. Unless you compare with people born in the same location at the same minute, it's not supposed to be the same. Even twins, as they are typically born minutes from each other, may have important differences. Even people with similar charts can be quite different, for example, Sun and Moon exact positions are very important in Astrology as I understand it and when I compare mine to my famous quasi-twins in those aspects, I can maybe relate to some (Hugo Chavez) but not to others (Slovodan Milosevic). Finally most astrologers believe in free will and that Astrology is only an "environmental influence", not deterministic.

[@DarkStar-os9pv]

@@LuisAldamiz it's also a load of crap.

[@DarkStar-os9pv]

@@empurress77 There does not exist instrumentation sensitive enough to detect such influences. And why the moment of birth? Why not the moment of conception? If gravity is the drivig influence, and the relative position of various bodies that provide that influence, then why not concern oneself with the positions of everyone present at a persons birth? A 180# person sranding 3 feet away has far more gravitational influence than any planet. But this is all moot. Astrology remains a con and a load of rubbish.

[@RR_theproahole]

@@LuisAldamiz If astrology comes with so many ifs and buts and exceptions, why not dismiss it altogether and call it bullcrap?

[@LuisAldamiz]

@@RR_theproahole - Medicine, quantum mechanics, gardening and everything comes with so many ifs and buts and exceptions and uncertainties. As former gardener I know that what today makes a plant thrive and flower, sometimes fails a week later elsewhere, why? Reality is horribly complicated and full of ifs, buts and exceptions. We still try to make sense of it by seeking for working patterns that are as solid as possible, that process of making sense of our surruondings by patterning what we observe we call science. So, if it seems to work way too well, at least in some aspects, if the astrological patterning seems to work, I call it science too, ancient and without seal of approval of modern institutions but without any real research that has ever demonstrated it wrong either and a lot of small scale personal research that seems to prove it at least partly right instead. But I thought like you once, I totally understand what you say. I just happened to dive on the matter and see the patterns with this little brain...

[@MartinIsRunning]

When people ask me what my sign is, I make them explain to me why it’s important before I answer. They don’t like that, and usually don’t wind up liking me, but I don’t really care.

[@thejoyfuldragon887]

great video! very thorough. this might be beyond the scope of these videos but would be great to have citations to studies mentioned in the description to combat the inevitable "you're just lying" claims.

[@quintensaenz1538]

i am fascinated with astrology. i have been for about a decade now! i use it almost every day, and sometimes i even make money off of reading peoples charts. i used to believe in it wholeheartedly, but now i dont. even though i dont think its real, i definitely still enjoy it a lot because there is so much to it! when talking to clients i am upfront about my beliefs and then they pay me to read their charts anyway lol. its fun for everyone, and i think it should stay that way!

[@msandersen]

I think it was in Carl Sagan’s Cosmos where he pointed out how the stars making up star signs we see are only the very brightest, and some are even distant galaxies; and since they exist in a 3-dimensional plane, if you view the same constellation from a different point in space, they have absolutely no correlation due to the vast distances between them, as opposed to the flat plane the ancients imagined. Also, as someone who lives in Australia, just as with flat earth, astrology falls apart as the Northern hemisphere constellations aren’t visible, except upside-down on the horizon. There is no star sign for being born under the Southern Cross. And of course the concept that there are only 12 personality types in the world is ludicrous.

[@therealzilch]

I saw the Southern Cross and it looked sorta like a kangaroo. Sorta. Or maybe a koala.

[@josephpublico2337]

@@therealzilch You were in Australia at the time? It was probably a koala you saw, or a kangaroo. Was it shiny and small? Maybe a star then...

[@therealzilch]

@@josephpublico2337 No, I wasn't even in the Southern Hemisphere. I was on the Big Island of Hawai'i, which is just far south enough for the Southern Cross to be visible near the horizon. And as far as I know, although Hawai'i has many invasive species, kangaroos and koalas are not (yet) among them.

[@josephpublico2337]

@@therealzilch So it was probably a star then, although it could've been an escaped kangaroo (or koala) imported for dissection in one of those infamous Hawaiian secret laboratories.

[@capricorny6035]

Some people have more than 12 personalities inside their own heads lol

[@ceejay0137]

One major problem with astrology that the Professor didn't mention is its complete failure to predict natural disasters. A massive earthquake or tsunami means that thousands of people, who will inevitably include members of every sun sign, will be having a REALLY bad day, so every single horoscope for that day should have warnings about it. When astrology can predict earthquakes, that will be the time to start taking it seriously.

[@JCW7100]

Great point!

[@ceejay0137]

@@sandrashane677 If you're claiming that the fact there's an asteroid named after the city where Covid may have started is a "prediction" of Covid, that is a huge stretch. According to China Daily on 26th April 2022, students at a school in Wuhan took part in an asteroid search: "A main-belt asteroid discovered by Grade 3 students at No 1 Middle School Affiliated with Central China Normal University in Wuhan, Hubei province, was confirmed recently and designated "2021 gb68" by the International Astronomical Union, sources at the school said. Under the rules of the IAU, Xiong Jiarui and his fellow students who discovered the asteroid have _the right to name it_ in the future, the school said." (My italics). That doesn't say it has actually been named Wuhan yet. There are currently nearly 150,000 known asteroids. I have never seen a horoscope that mentioned any of them, so why should that particular one have any significance?

[@caseycondron5245]

Really good point. I think it’s because since natural disasters are usually caused by the forces of Earth themselves and aren’t an outside force that astrology cannot predict such things (since astrology is the “study” of the planets’ mystical properties and how they affect people). I like astrology as a hobby but don’t believe it can predict things like that nor accurately describe the antics behind a person.

[@chutspe]

How could astrology have possibly worked anyway in times, when nobody knew about celestial objects like Neptune, Uranus, all the Plutoids and the Kuiper Belt?

[@looool6402]

invent other things

[@picklepie9810]

Yet we already knew about all the planets without telescopes and were accurate, it’s pretty cool right

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@picklepie9810 Accurate how? Also, nobody saw what planets are until telescopes.

[@caseycondron5245]

I’ve studied a little bit of astrology for about 2 years so I think I can answer this. If you look into it, the “properties” of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto are similar to the previous planets (Uranus to Mercury of the Mind, Venus to Neptune of the Heart/Creativity, and Mars/Pluto as Anger/Chaos), and in a way give them a boost. However, in the modern sense, these three planets are usually called “Generational Planets” since it’s common to see people of your generation having those exact same planets as you. I’m sure back in ancient times, the need to distinguish generations wasn’t necessary so it didn’t become a thing in astrology until very recently. I don’t believe in astrology 100% too so your skepticism is hella understandable. Hope this helps!

[@chutspe]

@@caseycondron5245 Thank you very much for your answer. However, the properties of formerly unknown planets being the same as those of the ancient planets seems to be a bit of a cop-out to me, from the astrologers' side.

[@Nevermore144]

Love your yt page. Keep up the great work

[@ryanmcknight9999]

The Barnum effect, named after the showman PT Barnum, is a common psychological phenomenon whereby individuals give high accuracy ratings to descriptions of their personality that supposedly are tailored specifically to them, yet which are in fact vague and general enough to apply to a wide range of people. This effect can provide a partial explanation for the widespread acceptance of some paranormal beliefs and practices, such as astrology, fortune telling, aura reading, and some types of personality tests.

[@DE23]

There is a difference between "My horoscope was right, what a neat coincidence", and " I'm gonna stop being friend with some one because Jupiter was kinda bright when I was born"

[@looool6402]

the sun was bright when i was born

[@nunya_bizniz]

When a girl asks me what sign I am, I say, "stop."

[@throwawayavclubber7269]

No you don't. You probably say "Open 24 hours".

[@nunya_bizniz]

@@throwawayavclubber7269 for you, my sign is "exit only."

[@stanisdeadprobably]

good

[@Montesama314]

So what I'm hearing is that I procrastinate because my toaster is in retrograde! Got it.

[@johndemeritt3460]

Hey! Astrology is real! The Onion's Horoscopes last week said I'd be devoured by a lava monster -- and I was! If that isn't proof of astrology, I don't know what would be . . . .

[@wayneurquhart1967]

It wasn't a lava monster, just your blanket.

[@tipperzack]

You got better?

[@johndemeritt3460]

@@tipperzack, no, I just got off the cart . . . .

[@hedgehog1965uk]

OMG, when I first read "devoured", I read it as "deflowered" and I thought "that's gotta hurt".

[@hedgehog1965uk]

@@tipperzack Holy Grail reference? ;)

[@richardweiss326]

Please release a video to counter the utter nonsense that is crystal healing

[@rickkwitkoski1976]

Why? YOU can find other ones that already do that. Besides, maybe research (NOT watch videos!) it yourself and create your own debunking of it. Find the Steve Mould video that shows what the piezoelectric phenomenon of crystals is. It's pretty good and JUST physics! I laughed many years ago at two young ladies who "believed" in the power of crystals. This was when all of the pseudo-crap was really just beginning. I had NO IDEA how much it would grow to take of the minds of so many gullible morons!

[@paulware4701]

Way back when Sagan made Cosmos, he pointed out that hardly any newspapers carried daily columns on astronomy, but that all of them carried daily columns on astrology. Sad then, still sad to this day.

[@siliconvalet]

Please never predetermine the content of my character based solely on my gender, ethnicity, or astrological sign.

[@michaelpisciarino5348]

0:28 Astrology. 12 Zodiacs determine your personality 1:15 Part 1: A mechanism of action How does celestial position influence us? 2:09 Four Forces - Strong Nuclear Force - Weak Nuclear Force - Electromagnetic Force -Gravity 3:44 How can Gravity dictate your personality at birth? - It Can't 6:20 Let's assume Astrology is true. 7:16 Astrologers fail the test. 8:28 Faternal Twins, same person, same chart. Are they identical? Definitely not. 9:35 *Part 2: Horoscopes* - Most horoscopes are vauge, listing nice things for everyone 11:48 It must correlate with reality 13:00 Failure of predictions = Phoney 13:58 Equations need to explain Reality 14:49 Who is it hurting? - The Regan Administration entertained an Astrologer 16:25 It's comforting. But it is absurd.

[@JGM0JGM]

​@p lr And how is seasonal biology impacted by gravity, exactly?

[@JGM0JGM]

​@p lr And how is seasonal biology impacted by gravity, exactly?

[@JGM0JGM]

@p lr "At different times during the year, the northern or southern axis is closer to the sun." Seasons have nothing to do with distances, you need to understand how season works before you can actually try to use them as a factor for anything. For instance, during the summer in the Northern hemisphere, the Earth is further away form the Sun then in the winter. Nothing of anything you wrote has to do with gravity. The gravity all of us feel with regards to the Sun or the Moon is equal, unless you factor in elevation, in which case it varies very slightly, minutely, in fact. So, if you want to use tise minute differences felt due to elevation (or, say, the distance from the Sun), you need to explain how all people born at the same time in the same area end up being totally different people despite feeling exactly the same gravity. If you backtrack with gravity and stick to "seasonal biology", then you still need to explain how all people born during the same "season" end up being different. You are just replacing old pseudo superstitious "science" by new woo woo that is also pseudo science.

[@JGM0JGM]

@p lr You are still just jabbering away with empty comments. //" Seasons have nothing to do with distances, " WHAT ? // Yes, distance is not the factor that influence seasons, it has absolutely nothing to do with it. Tell you what, you seem to be the type of person who enjoys doing research. Why don't you tell me what is the main factor that creates seasons? Describe its effect. Finally, again, none of this has to do with gravity influencing someone's birth and behavioural or personality development. So you are still very wrong about that.

[@JGM0JGM]

@p lr Lol, typical expected response from someone promoting empty pseudo scientific woo. Let's remember how this started: //How can Gravity dictate your personality at birth? - It Can't Really? Ever heard of Seasonal biology? Go check and you might be surprised// So far, you have spectacularly failed to connect "seasonal biology" with gravity and you demonstrated you do not understand how seasons work. Finally, even if you had successfully connected gravity with seasonal biology, you would still have the same failure astrology faces: Why do people born under the same "seasonal biology" effect end up being so drastically different? Unless, of course, you can demonstrate that all people born during the same seasonal biology period have the same personality. Good luck with that. So you can continue to insult me and throw a tantrum, it will just make it more obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.

[@nemanjasavic2252]

I like how he keeps debunking them in so many ways. Everything he said is logical and have sense. I love this man. You got yourself a new subscriber!

[@duytran9086]

Human: thinking that they are unique, that everyone is different from one another. Also human: believes in Astrology.

[@andyt9181]

How does that conflict? did you try to sound intelligent? :D

[@sairamehmood1268]

I seriously feel in a thousand or so years this is exactly what someone would say about modern religions. Whether it's real or not honestly doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. It can help guide people to balance and provide another perspective, or help someone through a generally rough time. And obviously it's fun. It just like religion is too valuable to just be outright dismissed because it's not "real." It's real to them and that's okay.

[@thetherrannative]

Unfortunately, the problem he states about real-world consequences is just that. Real. Decisions made on false beliefs can be insanely harmful. If you want to interact with topics like that, go for it! It can be fun to play around with things like astrology. But actually, properly _believing_ in it to the extent that you reject reality is not the way to go in any sense.

[@sairamehmood1268]

@@thetherrannative What truly dictates what a person does regardless of their beliefs is their character. I use religion as my comparison to astrology because they are both closely tied to spirituality in true practice. It's much more than just star signs posts on Instagram or birthcharts. Generally those who truly understand and use astrology also understand that it is not definite and only an additional perspective like any other spiritual practice. Just as people turn to religion for guidance in tough times, people do the same for astrology. Both religion and astrology in themselves are not bad in theory, but humans are inherently flawed. Many would argue that many followers of religion "properly believe in it to the extent that they reject reality" from their perspective and in history we've seen this used as an excuse to start wars and partake in mass genocide. Such violent response towards astrology as a spiritual practice has not occurred to my personal knowledge and is unlikely to occur in the future, but (I truly mean the following respectfully and neutrally as an observation of history) such attacks on spiritual beliefs tend to start with seemingly innocent comments like yours. Denouncing astrology as a whole because of a few bad eggs that get lots of attention online, or because it's a false belief from your perspective, is on the same wave length as denouncing any religion for the same reasons ("false god"). What an individual chooses to do with information received in any context is entirely up to them and they must face the consequences, good and bad. Btw I appreciate the response, it definitely got me thinking as you can tell lol

[@gianniciappina8153]

I totally agree with you, accepting others differences and beliefs is so important, your open attitude is great

[@marcdaniels9079]

Please watch some videos of Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennet, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Ricky Gervais, Laurence Kraus, Stephen Fry talking about religion and then see if you still think religion is ok in theory. It absolutely is not. ​@@sairamehmood1268

[@LEOHACKMAN247]

People have been saying the same thing about religions for over a thousand years. Yet here they are. Still around. Still fucking shit up. What you want is a thousand more years of indoctrinating generations of children to believe in this bullshit idea of some higher power, to perpetuate something that is in essence a spiritual placebo. Do you know how much private property is owned by organized religion? Or even how much tax money just the Catholic church avoided during the years they shuffled diddlers from parish to parish? Religion was undoubtedly helpful in the past. But its use has long served its purpose. Humankind has been held back from our potential for thousands of years because of this concept of god(s).

[@cxx23]

There was a good point that could be made when you mentioned a car in your driveway having a bigger effect on us than the stars. That point being, if stars COULD affect our minds with their minute gravitational pulls, then they STILL wouldn't to any measurable degree. This is because if the stars can affect us at this distance, then so can all of the massive things that are here on earth. The results between individuals would be so incredibly chaotic that there would be zero consistency between two people born under the same star sign. So not only does astrology not work, but if it did, it would still not work.

[@sammipanini]

Good point! Also, I have to pay the insurance for the car but I don't have to pay the insurance for the stars.

[@cxx23]

@@sammipanini I'm glad you don't have to pay star insurance. The rates are insane.

[@oliverneville5012]

Stars can totally have an effect on my life. The other night I looked up and saw one twinkling and said “oh hey that’s neat”. I wouldn’t of said that otherwise, can your science explain that.

[@RichConnerGMN]

i was about to like this but then i realized you said wouldn't of

[@kevinheath7588]

Me and my twin were born 10 minutes apart. Me and him are very different personalities in so many ways. Often people can't even tell we are brothers never mind twins. But I have since learned that even being born 10 minutes apart means we would of apparently been subject to different planetary influences on our personalities...go figure hey.

[@calibris4220]

Professor Dave: dismantling your beliefs one video at a time

[@maeborowski3554]

- What is your sign? - I'm a dinosaur. - That isn't a valid sign. - None are.

[@fr0stburn798]

nc

[@filipe.sm31]

@@fr0stburn798 what nc means?

[@filipe.sm31]

@@fr0stburn798 lol. Thanks

[@Tanishka101]

I had a conversation with a 4 year old recently where I asked him if he knew his star sign. He had no idea and asked me what it was so I explained the concept and said he was an Aries. His reply was… ‘no I’m not, I’m a T Rex’! 😂

[@mimi-milkymulti_fandoms6735]

Mine is turtle

[@Metonymy1979]

My sister went to a psychic once. The lady said she "sees" that she works with her hands. Considering she had hands at the time.... Psychic

[@SirArthurTheGreat]

I only go into work with my hands taped behind my back

[@scottgrohs5940]

Ah, I see you’re trying my patented Taped Workout Routine to strengthen your forearm muscles. Did you buy the deluxe plan or just the basic?

[@KitCatStudio]

The basic thing about astrology is that the star constellations look connected like they do ONLY FROM EARTH and actually only on the northern Hampshire. If you would travel as far as the closest sun (star) you will have another dot in the sky that is our sun, not seen as a dot from earth obviously. beyond this as far as you travel it all will appear just different. So basically if you really “connect the dots” it all points back to earth people being self centred and unaware of the vastness of space.

[@-ElysianEcho-]

I agree, astrology is fun, putting “your symbol” somewhere is fun, especially when it’s specific to the day and year, i had a client at work(engraving) who was starting a business to make custom keychains with all the planets and and specific gemstones and what-not, honestly his concept was really nice looking and i can see a lot of people loving them, even considered getting them for family, not because i believe in it, but because it was fun and nice looking, though i decided not to because i didn’t wanna fund the superstition

[@BatzelChaos]

I'm 14 years old and my mom believes in astrology. Bu you know what? I have been telling her it makes no sense for YEARS. With my limited understanding of the science, I can tell in a few seconds that astrology does. make. no. sense.

[@nebulan]

Talk to her about it with kindness and keep learning science 😊 point out some things that don't make sense and discuss them (not argue) good luck

[@clownworldhereticmyron1018]

Everyone has some irrational and illogical beliefs. The best thing you can do for yourself is subject your own beliefs and ideas to scrutiny whenever possible. It's often exceptionally difficult to change someone else's perspective if it is deeply held.

[@guystyle8062]

@@clownworldhereticmyron1018 Not everyone has irrational and illogical beliefs. Sure, most people do. In general, people are dumb, but not everyone carries such beliefs.

[@AWildBard]

stay strong

[@efemerickeser898]

Same

[@darwinvironomy3538]

*"I'm a cancer, how about you?"* Hello cancer, i'm Killer T. Have a nice day!

[@red2theelectricboogaloo961]

hi killer T. im a metastasis. have a nice day

[@zyugyzarc]

biology joke

[@darwinvironomy3538]

@@zyugyzarc yes.

[@robinchesterfield42]

Hi, I'm a macrophage! I just need a sec to clean up after the last cancer cells that got killed in here, then I'll be right with you! ("Cells at Work" is a very educational anime lol. :P)

[@inamdarsaquib9528]

Hi I am alpha interpheron

[@CIorox_BIeach]

"Oh, you came into world when the stars were in this position? Huh, your personality must have been shaped by the position of celestial bodies. Couldn't have been events that happened on earth at the time, and during your childhood."

[@apr2031]

that would be INSANITY, its obviously the stars and planets…..

[@kheidge2ndchannel547]

My favorite, a quote that was used in Sid Mieier's Civilization 6: "I don't believe in astrology. I'm a Sagittarius, and we're skeptical."

[@ferociousfeind8538]

"Romance is in the air!" "She left me." That hits hard, ouch.

[@Kualinar]

«Lucky day" «Got hit by a bus» OUCH !

[@simonspacek3670]

Romance was in the air. You can smell the romance she left you for...

[@VaughanMcCue]

@@simonspacek3670 Dutch Ovens

[@robinchesterfield42]

Romance WAS in the air...they just didn't say for whom. :P (And, of course, getting hit by a bus also counts as luck--they just didn't say what kind.)

[@Crystal_959]

People tend to fall for anything that gives you flattering compliments and tells you you’re smart. That’s why so many people still take Internet personality tests. They tell you you’re smart, you’re a good friend, you’re loyal, etc. Things that, even if they were false about the person, they’d never consciously disagree with. They never tell you that you have attachment issues, or that you blow up small problems, or that you tend to overindulge yourself or disregard responsibility. Because then it’s much more apparent that they’re bogus and nobody wants to be told that.

[@PhylumVertebrae]

Whoaaa the way I feel so attacked but you’re not wrong :( it took some real crude honesty from myself to myself to magnify the glass and see these problems. Surprisingly enough, science is what’s helping me now. Got to thank chemistry for sending me deep down the science rabbit hole.

[@user-cp8yy9vn6f]

true true

[@ChrisF_1982]

They have been going to the wrong psychics. Go to the real deal and they will tell you that which you do not wish to hear

[@klb9672]

They tell you that but in a more like a compliment rather than something negative so it seems like something you do because of how great you are. Just like saying a Ferrari is great but it needs a lot of fuel.So it only adds up to the hype.

[@AzaleaJane]

Know what I really despise? Astrology being presented as some kind of feminist thing. To me there is nothing feminist about putting people into preconceived boxes based on dry facts about their birth. That's kind of the whole point of every social justice movement: judge a person for their actual deeds and values, not your preconceptions about whatever category you've sorted them into. It's just another kind of phrenology.

[@thurlravenscroft2572]

In reference to astrology, Carl Sagan once said that your obstetrician had more gravitational effect on you when you were born than any astronomical body in the universe besides the earth.

[@UsmevavyPanacek]

Even from my position of someone, who enjoys good mystic experience, I would argue, that learning about world around enhanced my experience quite a bit- just watching sunset, with moon high in the sky and stars starting to appear, while knowing how incredibly huge, ancient and distant it all is, and all that had to happen to allow life to arise and gaze upon all that with at least some level of understanding, is in itself more profound experience than any mystical mumbo-jambo could give you.

[@jeffersonott4357]

Thanks

[@ajrosales047]

I remember reading The Hiram Key by Knight & Lomas, who mentioned about a study focused on different types of people and their zodiac signs. Of course, I wasn't surprised when the study found out no correlation between people and their supposed zodiacal traits. Just like what's discussed here that horoscopes are too vague. I must add that they're too universal that anyone can relate to it regardless of their sign; which debunks the very concept of astrology.

[@altheamaeve]

I used to monitor astrology predictions on a daily basis. I stopped and finally saw reason.