Why Is Saturn Return So Important in Your Life? w/ Marc Laurenson

[@AstrologyHubPod]

Curious about your Saturn Return and other major life transits? Download our free Lifetime Transits PDF at astrologyhub.com/LIFECYCLE for an at-a-glance guide to understanding these pivotal moments. How has Saturn influenced your life? Share your experiences in the comments below!🪐

[@Loveitmoon]

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ❤❤❤ for interviewing this amazing man, Marc Laurensen!!! Capricorn is in my 7th house. My Saturn is in the 9th. My Jupiter in the 11th and my Venus in the 1st. They all work beautifully together. This I've only realised after listening to this beautiful interview with you both. I'm 59! 60th coming up in August. Saturn has led me through a roller coaster of lessons. Mostly hard lessons but my goodness it's paid off generously. I have everything I've ever needed. I'm financially quite poor but I have a wealth of life experience and all thanks to Saturn and Marc for enlightening me in this interview. This is the icing on the cake for me. I've been listening to astrological interviews for around 3 years and mostly I've heard that Saturn is malefic! But, listening to your interview with Marc has enlightened me, introduced me to a new perspective on Saturn. I absolutely resonate with this 🫶 This is, so far, the best gift I've received going through my second Saturn return. This is invaluable! I'll never look upon Saturn in the same way again! Saturn moulds and shapes us through time until you become your own beautiful masterpiece. ✨️ 💜 ✨️ THANK YOU 🙏🙏🙏🫶🙏🙏🙏

[@SydneyAstrologySchool]

I am so glad that this clip was helpful and healing for you. Much love Marc x

[@cindychurch335]

I’m 67 and my first Saturn return 1:57 was the birth of my first child. On my second Saturn return I met an extraordinary man and fell in love for the first time!

[@amandawalsh2998]

Beautiful 😊

[@alexzaarabellalightrider1111]

My beloved mother passed in my first Saturn Return, starting me on a path of leaving my hometown for a long time…traveling, living on a Caribbean island, becoming a yoga teacher and a rave party dj there. Now, I’m on my second Saturn return and back in my hometown, no partner, no kids, never married…astrologer, yoga teacher, breathwork facilitator, with a deep, mostly unexpressed love of music, a desire to write it without movement toward that…wanting clarity on an authentic heart centered and passionate mission.

[@amandawalsh2998]

Sounds like you're at a very important crossroad! And from what you've shared here, it seems clear that expressing some of this "unexpressed" passion, desire and love is part of the path forward. Does that feel true to you? ❤

[@berrabbit222]

Marc Laurenson! How awesome to see him on your podcast. He's such a wonderful person, and a truly incredible astrologer 💗

[@eyerusalemhunt1096]

I learned a lot today , Saturn is a Teacher & strict Father, I'm in my second Saturn return ❤

[@alisaaustin8431]

I'm going through my 2nd Saturn return. When I went through my first Saturn return, I was doing stand-up comedy. It helped with my depression (much better than therapy), but it didn't pay the bills. It was a bumpy path from there. I was just looking at the clock. It said 3:22. I checked the symbolism of that number. It said, " You are on the right path. Keep it up!"

[@amandawalsh2998]

Interesting! I think perhaps, some of the insights you shared here, are part of that "on the right path" message you received... does that ring true for you? 😊

[@alisaaustin8431]

@@amandawalsh2998 Yes, but I always feel like I should be hustling more even though I feel more at peace going at a steady pace.

[@sharonfernandes1658]

Amanda, Mark is such an excellent presenter! That’s the best presentation on Saturn return than I’ve heard anywhere! So glad he will be on astrology hub for the Leo moon cycle. Thanks for inspiring people have such a high caliber to present in astrology hub.

[@amandawalsh2998]

Thank you, Sharon! I had the same experience of his Saturn Return presentation... so clear and helpful! I, too, am looking forward to the month we get to share with him in the Inner Circle and can't wait for his Mid-Life Transits Mastery Class! Thank you for your kind reflections ❤

[@Wise.owl16]

Marc is such a great teacher ,beautiful soul to learn from 🥰

[@amandawalsh2998]

Yes absolutely! ❤

[@andykatewalsh]

I don’t know if I’m teary-eyed here at the end because I wish more people understood that Saturn is cheering us on and wants us to work through hard things and come out the other side (I feel too many folks in these times air on the side of apathy) or if it’s because as a Capricorn sun who has always deeply resonated with all the Saturnian qualities of Capricorn this just makes me feel in awe of everything Saturn has done for me, shaped me, and continues to push me towards. This was a brilliant talk. So nice to meet you here, Marc.

[@amandawalsh2998]

I'm with you! I felt teary eyed and continue to marvel at the beautiful insights and the way Saturn can be so misunderstood. Thank you for the beautiful reflection! ❤

[@SydneyAstrologySchool]

Thank you. I am so glad you can understand Saturn through its more purposeful light. Much love Marc

[@tilery]

Marc is the best guest you've had on this show. He was fantastic to listen to. More please❤

[@amandawalsh2998]

I'm so happy you enjoy Marc as much as we do. He'll be teaching in the Inner Circle this summer and I'd love to have him back on the show as well! Thanks for your feedback 😊😊

[@amandawalsh2998]

I'm so happy you enjoy Marc as much as we do. He'll be teaching in the Inner Circle this summer and I'd love to have him back on the show as well! Thanks for your feedback 😊😊

[@tilery]

@@amandawalsh2998 Thanks for your lovely reply😊 I relistened to this episode, & just love how Marc offers a soul overview of why astrology exists. It's such a great addition to your other guests. Love your channel♥️

[@amandawalsh2998]

​@@tilerywonderful! And thank you for the compliment ❤

[@heidiroseneumann5201]

I absolutely peace and love you Amanda and your most amazing guests as always .. that said ... I think we really need to start integrating into our consciousness 4th and 5th Saturn returns... In this age of absolute longevity and immortality ... Holding to the belief that a third Saturn return is the end of the road... Does not personally resonate with my soul... Also a separate segment on those born in Saturn retrograde... Would be super great. Peace and love Amanda and Marc. 🙏✨🌀🕊️🌿

[@tinekedevries2282]

Loved Marc ❤ I will be 64 on the 22 this month and recognizing all you both talked about. In my early 20-es “studied” astrology and has never left. Saturn being the “bad/hard guy” made me anxious to astrology so couldn’t go into the really reading of my chart. So I ‘m very happy with internet and learning from other astrologers for all those years and not scared anymore and knowing I’m what I am here for. It’s been tough but greatful for all of the lessons and of course still learning and “unpealing”and gaining clearity❤ Thank you Amanda for bringing in another wonderful Astrologer ❤

[@amandawalsh2998]

So happy this (and other astrologers) has helped to dissolve any fear around Saturn or astrology in general! This is so wonderful to hear ❤ thank you for sharing 😊

[@SydneyAstrologySchool]

So glad you enjoyed our chat and are on track with you life. Much love Marc

[@MYoung-mq2by]

In the midst of my 2nd Saturn Return. What a blessing to listen to this man! My soul-searchings all came together. Thank you 🙏 As others have said, please invite him to share his wisdom in other episodes too.

[@amandawalsh2998]

This makes me so happy! I'm glad the timing and message were what you needed. 😊

[@Melodyinthe6]

My first Saturn return I broke off all contact with my family which lasted for eight years. Like Marc, my Saturn touches six planet, is conjunct Chiron and squaring my nodes and Jupiter. My second Saturn return is upon me now and I can see that in a 12-18 months, I will be working for myself.

[@blue_moon_astrology]

The ‘remembering’ piece really resonates with me 🙏💕

[@loridickinson4930]

I love Marc! I took a class from him recently. He’s the best!

[@amandawalsh2998]

Fantastic. Thank you for the kind encouragement. 😊

[@kieramiesner]

Im going through my first Saturn return now and this was so so helpful and gave such a beautiful insight to Saturn. Thank you so much !

[@soph2878]

Such a great talk. Marc is one fine astrologer 💛👑!!!

[@amandawalsh2998]

Yes indeed. So happy you enjoyed it ❤

[@judemcdougall9504]

Thank you Marc for such a positive and joyful Saturn discussion

[@namaste2706]

Thank you, Amanda, for this podcast. Marc is truly amazing. He has put Saturn in a whole new light for me and given that Saturn is in exact opposition to my Sag Sun, from his explanation, there is more of a feeling that they may seen like the are pulling in different directions in my life, but they are both pulling for my life. 🙏

[@Shelly-cp7gj]

Ah, well said! Wonderful reframe.

[@amandawalsh2998]

This is gorgeous. YES! Both pulling "for your life."

[@lindayork2812]

I feel like Saturn wants to be the river bank, helping people channel their emotions so they flow into something creative - art, music, sport, building a home, etc.

[@amandawalsh2998]

Love this analogy ❤

[@tangle1300]

That's a beautiful view of Saturn!

[@ThierrydeWijn]

really interesting. Had my first saturn return with a trip for a year from Holland to Australia, and started a new life. Now hanging in the second saturn return in Portugal. Feeling I am hatching an unkown egg...it's me in my third birth, being 60 now. . And well the flavour is more like flowing with life and not push things especially if it's not meant to be. And enjoy the beauty of life before I am gone.

[@jennyallen3410]

I’m just so happy that we have an Australian astrologer for the Inner Circle which means that my time zone will be spot on and I can finally attend live! Yay ! Really looking forward to that Leo Cycle :) And so great that Marc’s Mastery class is on the Mid Life Transits. I have Saturn in Aries in my first house and fast approaching my 2nd Saturn Return

[@amandawalsh2998]

Woohoo! We will see you there LIVE ! The recordings are great but it's always another experience to be there in the moment. I'm happy we will get to be together for this 😊

[@peleflows]

I absolutely loved this episode! I have heard of Marc through Nadiya Shah/Synchronicity University and this was the first time I’ve heard him speak! I related on many levels, having been through 2 Saturn returns. I loved the contract! I’m looking forward to him being our IC guide for Leo season! (Ilene G)

[@amandawalsh2998]

Yay Ilene! Im looking forward to learning more from him in the Inner Circle too! Thanks for sharing ❤

[@CintaPower]

Amazing! Loved loved loved this. So practical and insightful.

[@wynneangela5987]

Thank you so much for that understanding of Saturn- that was incredible! I am going through my 2nd Saturn Return much gratitude💛

[@urthshu]

As you say, not many 90+. I did have an aunt pass at 105 who married again at 91 though - it was as if she was using the last wind in her sails to the fullest she could right to the end

[@MM-qp4pd]

Oh wow. How old was the groom if I may ask?

[@urthshu]

Mid 80s ​@@MM-qp4pd

[@heidiellrich9504]

I have Saturn conjunct my ascendant and both of my Saturn returns kicked my a**!

[@verity4013]

So interesting! My daughter has her sun in Capricorn opposition Saturn on her MC. She has been sooooooo hard to raise!! My folks are in both 90 this year. Mum is still working on her life work translating and I can see my Dad processing letting go of life whilst still being very much engaged in it. Fascinating conversation! Thank you so much.

[@orsinori7673]

Thank you for these amazing insights! Working with Saturn consciously is a big part of my life, I’m sure I’ll rewatch this episode many times. Love the contract idea! I hope you don’t mind if I share a few thoughts about my understanding of Saturn. (I’m finishing the first year Hellenistic course of Nightlight Astrology, so I don’t clame I know better or anything, I just like how Adam teaches about malefic and benefic). I’m in my first return, and in a few days I’m going to the funeral of a highschool classmate. She had a Cap stellium, battling leukemia through her Saturn (in Aquarius) return…this is why Saturn is called a ‘malefic’. Not because it’s inherently evil or harmful, but it teaches big life lessons, usually through making you face cold hard reality. And we would much rather prefer getting a gift from someone (Jupiter or Venus), than a message about someone dying. It’s subjectively much harder to go through at the time of the transit (but it surely can bring good things for the long term - a deeper understanding, becoming more responsible, using time more wisely…).

[@amandawalsh2998]

Beautiful insights. Thank you for sharing ❤

[@loridickinson4930]

I’ve been through 2 Saturn returns already. My mom and dad both have Saturn in Aquarius so had their 3rd Saturn return recently. My dad passed during his return and my mom is learning to live alone. They were married 69 years. Her Saturn is in her 5th house. I misplaced my dads chart but I know the house can give you clues

[@claudialarsson7439]

Me too! First one was great second not so much.

[@graceamsterdam5404]

Thanks for a good interview! I am a couple of years past my 2nd saturn return. Saturn and venus conjunct natally. I find saturn extremely satisfying. Afterwards. Compare it with a tough class of whatever: study, excersize. The feeling áfterwards, is what I have learned that I am doing it for. The growth after a couple of years, when I keep showing up regularly/daily. I prefer the postponed reward to the instant satisfaction. By far!! I also learnt that there is a difference between intense connection and dependency. When I feel dependent, I always go back to what the connection is exáctly, because dependency is for the larger part emotion. I have a lot of pisces energy. I like saturn. He is my friend. He gives me structure, goal, grit. But I guess most of all, saturn has taught me that consistent quality input múst give good quality outcome. I leave it with this.

[@AstrologyHubPod]

YES! Saturn is the ultimate Master Teacher! So happy you have found such a loving connection with him and the Saturnian energy in general. Thank you for taking the time to write!

[@christinapitcher5069]

Awesome talk. Thank you both.

[@donnalowe5370]

A wonderful conversation with the marvellous man who taught me astrology. I could see how many of my first Saturn return stories have evolved and have resonance with my second Saturn return, where I currently am.

[@amandawalsh2998]

This is beautiful. Thank you for sharing! ❤

[@CatherineLee-t4l]

I'm very grateful to you both this is an incredible gift and so so inspiring and the amazing hand out as well - thank you so much love x

[@magdalenawawczak5109]

This was a great episode. I enjoyed it so much and funnily enough I chose to watch it because I was drawn to the sunflowers. I was looking for a video about Saturn return and this was fantastic! I also had a little 'aha' remembrance moment - deja vu when Marc said "Get on track. Stay on track. Make sure you achieve what you came here for to achieve"- I paused in that moment, and shivers ran down my spine. I loved the energy and will return to watch some more. Thank you for this beautiful conversation.

[@marijacaric9385]

Beautiful episode. I am soon to enter second return, thank you for this guidance 🙏🤗

[@amandawalsh2998]

Ooohh I'm excited for you! I hope these golden nuggets from Marc pave the way for a brilliant second Saturn return ❤

[@CHC2424]

Thank you Astrology Hub, Just brilliant.

[@TisDana]

I’m going into my 2nd Saturn 🪐 moon in Capricorn, Saturn in Pisces. Sun in Scorpio, Ascendant in Pisces.

[@Christina-dm9pv]

Thanks for the topic. Experiencing my 2nd right now.

[@MercuryRiZing1111]

Thank you so much for this, Narc and Amanda. While Mercury is my chart ruler, I feel very connected to beautiful, misunderstood Saturn. My moon and Saturn are conjunct in Capricorn- 8th house! 🤣 North and South nodes 10th and 4th houses, respectively - lots of karma to sift through. sort and heal. Just past 2nd Saturn return. If only I knew then what I know now…🤗 I love Saturn and feel deeply that Saturn loves me, as he does all of us….🙏🏼❤️

[@alytaylor8974]

Hello Amanda and Marc. What an amazing show. I’m in my Saturn return. Hitting my Sun in 7th house & with Uranus and Pluto in the 9th house. Neptune in the 11th. Plus a few more placements. I see lines. But do not know if it’s a aspect square or triangle, etc. Lol , I have had two sessions with Gemini Brett. Now I’m learning more to go back and listen to the sessions. Thank you this is so amazing. I’m excited to embrace my Saturn return

[@helenavalerio1068]

Thank you for this interesting talk! Amanda, you conduct with such grace! And Marc, I am looking forward to hearing more on your insights on Saturn. 💎

[@hopeamaranthine1033]

Really enjoyed Marc!! Stooo missing the weekly weather and the old Astrology Hub.

[@trishejaimes]

Loved this, marc is amazing

[@taylorsmall2280]

My 2nd Saturn return was in 2021, on the exact date and at my natal Saturn exact degree and Sign to the (I repeat degree- minute) my mom past away. I use an astrology coach the last 8 years. The best advise she gave me was three years before the exact day of the 2nd return, budget and plan to have all this done over 36 months - full physical, colonoscopy, mammogram teeth cleaning , eye exam so when it’s “exact” you’ll be somewhat ahead of the major life changes …. #best advise ever!!! I budgeted, changed to frugal ways to invest in health testing, while paying off my debt. Three years out of the 2nd return, CUT BACK and focus… health is your wealth. ✨🙏🏼✨✨ the year of my mom’s passing I could barely function … ❤

[@tinareynolds2938]

Thanks for sharing. Sorry for your loss. I had same experience with Mom passing re: the heaviness and almost unbearableness. Also happened in 2021. Transiting Saturn conjunct moon and Pluto/Venus transit square my IC. At least you are healthy. She lives thru you. You’re a part of her. Live well!!🙏🌈❤️

[@SydneyAstrologySchool]

My Mother passed at my first Saturn Return too I did not mention this in the podcast. It was a very difficult time for me as I became the legal guardian of my younger brother and sister at that time who where 13 and 15 and in hight school. Saturn squares 3rd house Moon. It was very difficult in many ways but boy did I mature for the better during those years. It was also the time that I became a practicing Astrologer. Marc

[@nwcassidyfineart]

My mom passed at 88, during her final Saturn return. Those transits are very hard on the body and often those with weakened bodies, like my mom, won’t survive them.

[@TisDana]

I wonder if your Saturn return aligns with your exit. I’m going into my 2nd Saturn return. 😮

[@nwcassidyfineart]

@@TisDana I think those who pass during their Saturn returns have weakened bodies. My dad lived to 99 1/2 so he was past his 3rd one by 11 years. I’m well past my 2nd Saturn return which coincided with a move from CT to NH.

[@rosannegilmore4204]

I'm experiencing my second

[@ninaleani6267]

Very inspiring- thankyou❣️

[@timtam49]

Great talk on Saturn returns thanks Marc

[@rosannegilmore4204]

He's so right!!!

[@anniehamlett8761]

Thank Amanda, this was awesome. ❤

[@amandawalsh2998]

Glad you loved it, Annie! ❤

[@startongue_astrology]

Very special man, thank you Mark

[@jennykeady4691]

Loved this session with Marc

[@tinareynolds2938]

Thank you for this talk. Really enjoyed it. I often wonder what does Saturn want of me? I would love to hear 10 Astrologers talk about Saturn and then see where Saturn is in the chart! I was thinking as a Cap rising and Aquarius Moon, it’s not about making Saturn proud. It’s about making me proud of myself. Self-respect, self-authority, Self-control (particularly with letting emotions ”run roughshod” etc.) but then I thought I only think that cause of MY Saturn placement and sign placements. And obviously Marc has Saturn square the luminaries/nodes so he’s gonna say that too about the emotions, etc. So only we can really determine what Saturn means to us. Otherwise it’s coming thru someone else’s lens related to his own Saturn relationship. What does someone with a non-aspected Saturn have to say? Or an astrology-delineated “weak” Saturn have to say? That would be interesting. I may have to search some charts. 💡Always much to learn, that’s for sure! ❤😂😊

[@AstonishedonEarth]

Awesome thx!! Perfect timing!!

[@suehill8105]

This was great !

[@paolad3207]

Thank you both fascinating talk thanks

[@Prabhupadalila]

I'm currently on my second return and going through career changes. Saturn is in Pisces in my 10th. During my first Saturn return, I moved into the monastery and accepted a Guru.

[@amandawalsh2998]

So interesting... owning your own spiritual authority? Could that be part of what's happening for you this time around?

[@Echo_L117]

Cap Sun, Pisces rising, Jupiter (R) in Gemini going through my second Saturn return and it feels more like my last. I’m preparing for when I leave this mortal coil. Saturn in Pisces is like two fish in a barrel - never stable but can’t get out. Not to mention what Pluto did to my life. 😢

[@LindaDHolla]

Thank you for this episode. I loved it and gave me quite some insights. And I feel aligned with the stage I am in now, 2. return. It all makes sense more now. Also looking back to my first return, at that time not conscious about the astrology topics, and recognising the big decisions I made. Although they did not feel like that. I got married and we moved to another country. Anyway now at my second return and more aware, conscious. I am feeling kind of excited🙏🏽🧡🌟

[@rosannegilmore4204]

I have gained a lot of wisdom

[@FlowerWater]

Very interesting. My mother passed the day before her 88th Birthday. Which is when I was 59. My first saturn return I got divorced and became a single mother with 3 babies, and my second saturn return I started a new relationship and of course lost my mother. I also moved home. However his 2nd return is next year!

[@TheOldmanchameleon]

Where can we find a shareable version of his Saturn speech in text? I want to print a copy and put it in my pocket. That made the most sense and is a clear explanation for people curious as to why I am so fascinated by Astrology. I love your content and appreciate the many ways that it has contributed to my human development. Astrology Hub is a LIGHTHOUSE!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Welcome to the Show Marc Laurenson. Thank You for sharing your wisdom 😊

[@amandawalsh2998]

Thank you!!! What an incredible compliment. We don't currently offer transcripts for the podcast but will keep that in mind! ❤❤❤ so happy you find our content helpful on your journey. Thank you for the note 😊

[@LeniePia]

. ...is it possible, - could you make a video/podcast about Saturn aspects to mars in birth chart. How Saturn works in inter aspects (synastri ) - & Saturn transits to natal Mars ??? Years ago I read Grant Lewi's book a chapter about Saturn transiting Mars, - it was a library book, - ... I took notes, still have my notes, finding them important, remember every time i see aspects between the two planets appearing....Would love to learn more ? Please : ) My increased interest right now is because, in connection with my father's death, my siblings and I have had many embarrassing confrontations & conflicts. I see that my sisters all have hard transits from Saturn to their natal mars right now....and I became aware by studying our birth charts that in our birth horoscopes synastry we have hard aspects, in all cases their Mars is to my Saturn.

[@thiabrabson2533]

Age 59 & LIFE IS SO DIFFICULT- wanting the impossible 😇 A COMPLETE DO OVER🙂‍↔️

[@MM-qp4pd]

One day your 29 now you're 59 huh

[@estellekingshott429]

Brilliant thank you ❤❤❤🦄🦄🦄💙💙💙

[@kamalimasters5287]

Thankyou 🙏

[@MystiksViSioN]

The karmic... Is a vibe... The healing after chaos is Saturns reward when done well... We feel great with ourselves... But Unwell... Begets the chaos and karma that comes with it.

[@collageofhealth4897]

With Saturn if you do the work, what was bitter will be sweet

[@joannelanza9811]

I feel like my Saturn return happened when I was 20, I feel like in going through my 2nd Saturn return since I was 48 (now 50)

[@lyndaanello5421]

I would love to share the Saturn contract

[@priscilla3798]

Great ❣️

[@graces1356]

On my Saturn return my dad passed away suddenly and I was scamed out of a lot of money. I was also in a deep schizophrenic episode. Does that mean my second Saturn return will be even worse because I didn’t take care of my schizophrenia and got scamed on my first?

[@danibostonburbs]

Heyy Astrology Hub what happ to ur weekly forecast? Thxs🙏DaniSophie from Boston

[@maniOne33]

What is the major difference when in the natal chart Saturn Returns vs Saturn directs

[@lesliecie]

As a therapist and astrologer I hear how Saturn in his chart has colored his view of emotions. Not my take of Saturn and emotions….

[@SydneyAstrologySchool]

We all have our differing takes on Saturn. My understanding is not so much from my personal experience but from just over 30 years of readings and client work. Marc 😃

[@dolorescampanale2076]

Love this but what about if your saturn is ret in your chart at a very early degree the strongest 034 on a coups 5th Pisces house opp Mar Virgo my son going through his Saturn return found a girl friend I think they will get married all there friend are

[@timtam49]

The believe second Saturn is easier sometimes not always most likely cause we are wiser...more chilled o Perhaps not in my case though. My was a dozzy lol

[@SydneyAstrologySchool]

Its not a one size fits all. We will face our returns uniquely with who we are where we are in life and exactly what we need to learn. Marc 😃

[@rosannegilmore4204]

I have saturn in the 8th house pisces retrograde

[@MM-qp4pd]

If your first Saturn return didn't work out for you then does that mean your second Saturn return will be harder and vice versa?

[@roseanna8910]

🍃🌹🍃

[@anitaandersson1068]

I am 69 years 12-6-24, for five years ago, I lose all my money😭, in scam even many elderse whith me🤔🤔. I am thinking mybe Evolution, have something to do whith this 🤔.For me this scam is worst of my Life. Namaste❤️🙏❤

[@mbarr6004]

💟♌️♎️♓️💟

[@blessedgraceindeed]

Every Saturn return my people die saggy raising Saturn first rule 2

[@SydneyAstrologySchool]

My mother passed the week of my first Saturn Return. I really had to take responsibility and grow up from what followed. Marc

[@polina7744]

I have to disagree with the speaker. This approach puts a person into guilt, shame and blame. We are not in control of our lives as the speaker said. We are born into certain cultural, social and religious that affect the way we grow up and make decisions. Traumatic early childhood experience, as well as wars and other traumas all affect the way we make decisions later in life. Please, don't say that the children that are currently dying in wars are fully responsible for their death, or deserve it. This is a damaging spiritualist narrative that isn't helpful, but only promote the blame the victim paradigm that is neither true, not helpful. This is turn off and I am not even interested to listen further what this speaker has to say. Aside, say how special and great he is, he left very distasteful impression. Advice is more humility and compassion, less arrogance and Ego

[@SydneyAstrologySchool]

Hi Natalia, thank you for sharing your thoughts and I totally respect your opinion. My heart goes out to people in truly difficult situations yet I have seen people who come from threatening, impoverished and hopeless backgrounds who have turned their lives around into something purposeful, loving and powerful. I actually have these people in my life. They are truly amazing and have said they would not be the people they are today without having experienced hardship in their past. Saturn never blames you, makes you feel guiltily or wrong, we do that to ourselves. It is only offering ways to strengthen you. I imagine Natalia some of the more difficult experiences in your life have taught you lessons on becoming the strong woman you are today. Love Marc