Asus ROG G18 | RTX 4070 - Pains and gains of size

[@Johnello1]

I watched a lot of reviews..but I liked this one the most lol..the honesty..the amusement ..thanks man..I’m 31 but still buying it for work and a little gaming ahhaha

[@kazmiee]

I am so sorry for my tardy response. I do greatly appreciate your encouragement and am happy that you found my content to be useful. And trust me I can totally relate. Gaming laptops are definitely the way to go atleast for me being in my 30s. Apparently I look like some spoilt man child gaming on a desktop but with a laptop the perception is not too bad :P Gamers never die, we only respawn. Keep at it man. Others read books, but we experience grand stories through this medium. No such thing as age for gaming

[@mmmhowbowfoqyew]

Literally did the same thing lol i needed new work laptop for working at home and on the go. Need bigger screen for my type of work. But also do some gaming lol glad am not alone in that rationale

[@kazmiee]

@@mmmhowbowfoqyew do you have any options in mind so far?

[@1Sniper6661]

@@mmmhowbowfoqyew same here not alone at all

[@esfsefes]

I love your style of reviewing - humor does the thing :)

[@kazmiee]

Thank youuu! I have to try real hard to resist breaking into my dad jokes form Hope to keep on bringing new content that works! :)

[@esfsefes]

@@kazmiee :D hope we'll get them sometime in future he he

[@madcapper6]

Unless you're one of those people who like to re-up on their laptops every year, that T4 port might come in handy for an eGPU sooner rather than later, especially if you've got the 4070 model. VRAM limitations are already a thing with the 4070 but at the same time, the very high end 13980HX cpu offers some future-proofing. Having that option open with this laptop with the T4 port is nice to have imo.

[@kazmiee]

Sorry about the delay in response! For sure! I was super excited about TB4 and was looking forward to seeing TB4 GPU enclosures, but somehow YEARS later, we never expanded past 4 PCIE lanes at least through the type C interface. I do hope this is something that manufacturers continue to think about in the future. ALSO, make these eGPU enclosures a bit more affordable as well. Are you currently using such a setup? How has your experience been so far?

[@madcapper6]

@@kazmiee Hello, thank you for the response. Currently I'm using a 2060 Super (via the Alienware graphics amp) with an Alienware 17 r2 that has a 6th gen i7 6700hq. Being able to go from the internal 970m gpu to the 2060 Super really gave that laptop a second life as I've been able to play games like RDR2, God of War, Forza Horizon 5 and even cyberpunk at a full 60fps with decent to good settings. Games I clearly wouldn't have been able to play on it with the 970m. With the 6th gen cpu though, I run into some trouble with bottlenecking on more cpu-bound games, like AC Origins and Elden Ring. When I originally got the graphics amp, all I had at that time to put in it was a 970 desktop gpu, a nice little banger of a gpu back in the day. I was getting around 45-50fps on Elden Ring at 1080p and medium settings. When I swapped it out for the 2060 Super, I was still maxing out at 45-50, regardless of graphic settings so I was clearly pushing that old i7 to its limit. The graphics amp I guess has a little less overhead than TB4 and it was only cutting into the card's performance by about 5% or so. Unfortunately, if I'm not mistaken Alienware discontinued the graphics amp and interface in either '20 or '21. I thought about getting one of the most recent models that still had it but ultimately decided to go a different direction. I definitely agree with you about the cost. As if the price of a decent gpu isn't high enough, gotta shell out another few hundred for an enclosure so then by the time you're done you could be easily in for another $1k or so. And yeah, it's unfortunate. I was fortunate enough to come across that graphics amp in like new condition on FB Marketplace for $100 and the 2060 Super I used with it I already had so it was just the $100 that ended up being the total cost. Do you see eGPUs having a viable future or will the cost continue to make it kind of a niche product? Thanks again for your original response and the vid. Cheers.

[@PInoyHenyoRito]

wow under rated reviewer you earned a subsriber ill stick with my strix g17 2022 still wait for the next 18 inch ports made me dont want it .....back ports is a must these days

[@kazmiee]

Thank you sunny side up! Really grateful for the sub!. Hope I can continue to bring out useful content. :)

[@abdullahnafis2256]

Amazing Machine 🔥 Great review as always!!❤

[@kazmiee]

Yaaar bhuttz, you are awesome. Thank you always!

[@mutawi3i]

Proper good video mate. Well done🎉

[@kazmiee]

Thank you! Appreciate you watching my video! :)

[@VazgShah79]

Dear friend, I recently learned that Intel's 13th and 14th generation processors were manufactured with a serious microcode algorithm issue that causes PCs and laptops to freeze (blue screen, restart). Have you ever noticed something like this?

[@janeS4489]

Great video, man!

[@kazmiee]

Thank you Jane. Really means a lot :)

[@RJ_Chicago]

What was the backpack you showed which fit the Asus STRIX G18? Could you please provide a link to it? Thanks!

[@dojesenpai6957]

the rog strix scar G17 has 4 usb port and is older laptop it should have atleast 3 for cooling fan mouse and keyboard

[@dealreal9709]

reeeeeeeeally great video sir. actaully the best comapring other review videos.

[@kazmiee]

Heyy Deal Real, really happy to hear that you enjoyed my review and thank you so much for taking the time to write that down. I look forward to creating content that you find useful :) Cheers!

[@mittrac]

How about coil whine ? Is it as loud as what other reviewers are saying ? They showed the strix 18 making that horrible coil whine screeching noise

[@FBi_.]

Just got this laptop brand new and this was a perfect explanation of how it works and how i can make my settings on it thanks

[@kazmiee]

@@FBi_. Oh hey, thank you for the comment. Really glad that I could help. Hope th3 G18 treats you well

[@jasperboleyley9659]

i need help brother...either i get the i9 14th 4080 version of this at $2300 or i get the msi vector gp68hx i9 13th gen 4090 version but 16 inch at $2400... help 😢

[@kazmiee]

@@jasperboleyley9659 When in doubt, I say Quality over Quantity. The G18 will be a better companion to you in the long term and I believe will manage thermals wayy better than the MSI hence I feel can manage sustained loads better as well. I have no experience with the MSI Vector series but I think MSI has positioned it to be a more affordable option and will have cheaped out in a few areas. The G18 will be a better laptop. Sure ypu might get 15% more fps with the 4090 but even if you are an enthusiast gamer, those extra frames might mot make a big difference to your gaming experience but the quality of individual components on a laptop can IMO. Hope that helps. Let me kmow what you end up deciding :)

[@jasperboleyley9659]

@@kazmiee i appreciate it brother...the msi is on sale and only a few hundred bucks like 150-300 and i really want an 18 inch lappy but it wasnt on sale...i come from a 3060 predator series and wanted the predator helios 18 but its 2500-2600... 😃

[@pokerbarloahavia]

They just put 32gb ram max on the site because that is their upgrade option if you buy 2 32gb sticks for a total of 64gb and install it yourself it will work.

[@kazmiee]

Ah. Good to know! Thanks for sharing!

[@davidpereira4455]

If it has an i9 or R9. i7s not so sure

[@kennysponto6568]

The strix 18 rtx 4080 @ $2,099 on sale is the best laptop of 2023

[@kazmiee]

Certainly has good value for money! Do you have the 4080 version of the Strix 18?

[@Nevio857]

I got it in 2023. I can tell you that it can handle A LOT.

[@jvbp1010]

can I ask your opinions on whether to buy the g18 or Legion 7i with the same specs??

[@ricequeen-i7y]

What about to use this laptop for after effect and Blender? Version with 16 gb und 1tb ssd? Thank you for the answer❤

[@kazmiee]

Would be good to up the ram to 32 gb for a smoother experience dealing with large volume content

[@aks1008]

Hello is 8gb vram enough for latest games..like cyberpunk 2077, cod mw3 etc..

[@kazmiee]

Hey, Thank you for your question! Wellllll... as you might expect.. it depends.. I have also been testing a Legion LoQ with a 3050 which has 6 gigs of Vram and it seems to do a pretty decent job at 1080p and medium settings. Way better than I had ever expected actually. But if you want to play these games at higher resolutions like 4k or even just qhd+ at max settings, 8 gigs will definitely been needed. But it also depends on the generation of the card. 8 gigs on 4000 series Nvidias will outperform 8 gigs on 3000 series. And it also depends on the performance expectation and how sensitive you are to stuttering in games. That might be a big reason for you to maintain 8 gigs atleast because when large texture sizes from modern games try to fit in smaller VRAM, it might require a more frequemt handoff of graphical data and can result in lower 95% fps due to greater dips in performance, something that can mess up especially a competitive multiplayer experience like in COD. Hope this helps! Btw, what are you current options in gaming laptops that you have in mind right now?

[@aks1008]

@@kazmiee like for qhd+ resolution on 4070 laptop will 8gb vram be enough at max settings

[@aks1008]

I want to get an asus g18 rtx 4080 laptop but price is too much that's why g18 rtx 4070 looks like a nice option..only problem is 4gb vram difference between 4080 and 4070 so that's why was thinking is 8gb vram enough for qhd+ resolution at max settings

[@kazmiee]

@@aks1008 at max settings at qhd+, without dlss or frame gen, for example for cyperpunk, a 4070 might average I think around 45fps. And this is without RT as well. In comparison, a 4080 might be close to 60 fps but even there, its not the extra VRAM that is helping. VRAM is going to be most useful for texture size / sharpness / detail in rendering. Anyway, if you are seeking to use DLSS alot, then texture quality might also become less relevant. I personally dont like using upscaling like dlss because I can notice the dip in quality and I dont like that. Anyway, a 4070 is perfectly acceptable and should generally perform well at qhd+ across your AAA titles.

[@kazmiee]

@@aks1008 that is a very relevant decision point. From the devices tested, I found that the 4080 offers a pretty decent performance jump over the 4070. Like you can generally expect 20-30% better framerates on average across your games, if the price difference is less than that, you know you will get better value for money. Also the g18 has a nice big chassis to house a more power hungry card so a 4080 might suit it well. And it will also stand the test of time better as newer games just demand more texture space. If you are a casual gamer though, a 4070 can easily satisfy. What is your current machine btw?

[@fabioslink5867]

Hi, i’m valuating the g18 with 4060 and i7 13650hx for video editing and general use. What do you thinking about? I find it at a very great offer now in italy. Please lei me know. Thanks

[@kazmiee]

Would you be editing large batches of 4k content?

[@fabioslink5867]

@@kazmiee max large 45min ok 4K but only sometimes, usualy short 4K Clips of max 4 min

[@kazmiee]

@@fabioslink5867 the 4060 with that CPU should be fine, if you find yourself editing say 20 min 4k videos in the near future, configure with 32gigs. Its just a large machine. Hope you're not thinking about lugging it around too much

[@aldenthomas5317]

Hey man, Great review! I was wondering if you could cover the asus vivobook pro 16x; it has same hardware specs (i9 13980hx, rtx 4070), but in a much smaller package, with an oled screen. I'm finding it around 1637 USD.

[@kazmiee]

The vivobook should also be pretty good. OLED is going to really up the game there. I am a huge fan of their ZENBOOK in the same pro 16x version. Have not used vivobook, but if it is anything like the ZENBOOK, it should be good!

[@Arcademania_One]

thx, support hdr?

[@al-kazaz9032]

Good Thorough review I appreciate the attention to important details other reviewer’s completely skip, I wonder your thoughts on the Lenovo legion pro 7i 2023 2024 I know you’ve covered the slim.

[@al-kazaz9032]

Never mind lol it seems you already covered the legion pro 7 2023 I’ll give that a watch

[@kazmiee]

Heyy really glad to hear that you found my content to be useful. It really means alot! :) Also, I did review the Pro 7i 2023 with the 13900HX and the 4070; you can find it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/emiQf3mlh6tojsU&pp=ygURdGVjaG5pYy1hbGkgcHJvIDc%3D ; Ill also be soon putting out my review for the Legion 7i Gen 9 (non-pro) soon as well.

[@kazmiee]

ohhh, just saw this; I thought I had missed responding to you earlier; did you find what you were looking for in that video?

[@al-kazaz9032]

@@kazmiee Yes i did, the video was helpful and my main source for when it came to deciding. i did end up getting the 2023 legion pro 7i and am happy with it. thanks once again

[@Test23Test23-r5l]

I am wondering if the fan is running on IDLE. I have an acer nitro. And these cpu fans runs hearable at 40 degrees at idle. Thats really annoying if i am at the library to study for university. I already did a lot of researches and theres no way to turn these off. Can you really shut the fans completely down when you only browsing or reading an pdf file at full screen brightness on the asus ROG strix G18? Or do they automatically get turned on at a certain cpu temperature just like the acer nitro?

[@tac2456]

Yes you can by choosing the power scheme Silent in Asus Armour Crate, which is probably the equivalent to Power Saver in windows (or Best Power Efficiency). Although I do not recommend this laptop because of it's terrible screen quality

[@2022spacekw]

let's hope legion will make 18 screen version soon

[@kazmiee]

Yeah. Not sure why they have not gotten into the 18 inch space. They should have showed something in computex but I dont think they did.

[@DanielNistrean]

Again a great review! G18 vs M16 vs Legion Slim 7 for 3D work ?

[@kazmiee]

You will certainly appreciate the larger size for 3D models. Screen size and thermals are the main reasons to get the g18. But m16 and Slim 7 are just.. better overall laptops

[@ComputerTeckMaster16]

Does this have the hidden touchpad on the mouse pad?

[@vpsjdon]

I got the same model and man it's an absolute BEAST. PS: The 'official' max ram is just a number. I've seen plenty of people using the same laptop and 64 gigs of memory. Are you still using this device by the way? I do have some questions if that's the case. An extremely informative video though. Enjoyed it a lot!

[@kazmiee]

Hey Vedant. Really glad that you found my video useful. And thank you for also sharing that with me. Means alot. Unfortunately I do not have the g18 anymore but perhaps I might still be able to answer your questions?

[@vpsjdon]

@@kazmiee Did you try to upgrade the ram or ssd of this device? A lot of people on Reddit recommend disconnecting the battery before doing such upgrades, but I'm seeing posts of people who have actually managed to ruin their battery connectors or bent the pins by doing that. From what I've read, this model has some sort of light sensor that automatically cuts the power from the battery when the panel is opened right? So do you think it's necessary to disconnect the battery? Just to add a new ssd and replace the memory sticks? I don't want to fry the mobo but at the same I don't want to touch the components that I don't have to

[@tac2456]

​​@@vpsjdon I've upgraded both ram and SSD without any problems, very simple , easy and straightforward

[@vpsjdon]

@@tac2456 Did you disconnect the battery before upgrading?

[@tac2456]

@@vpsjdon nah

[@khalifa6413]

may i know what is the external monitor that you showed earlier? i want to buy a 16 inch external monitor but don't know which one

[@kazmiee]

Ahh. It's kind of an unknown "AYY" brand I found on Amazon. But I like it. High refresh rate, qhd+, 500 nits. And so far reliable: 2K Portable Monitor - AYY 16''... www.amazon.ca/dp/B0B87WZR2L?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[@kosminuskosminus]

There are absolutly no pains with the 18 inch and i do not understand why there are no 20 inch or bigger laptops ?

[@eaaglee_]

where exactly are you going to fit a 20inch laptop in your bag? atp just buy an portable monitor

[@kosminuskosminus]

@@eaaglee_ unless you are a hobbit then a 20 inch monitor is not a problem and in todays world one buys a laptop as a pc or buys a tablet but a portable what ever is dead and also a 20 inch laptop would be a killer as the 18 inch is apready over 50% of the laptop market in the european union. Fact ! Mic drop

[@eaaglee_]

@@kosminuskosminus at this point just get a desktop dude. Your arguments are really bad. "18 inch 50%" Where did you even get those numbers from? 💀

[@eaaglee_]

@@kosminuskosminus "Fact ! Mic drop" I'm sorry bro this isnt facebook.. That app is in blue and white.

[@kosminuskosminus]

@@eaaglee_ desktop sucka balls for a few years now , laptop is the only way to go and this is not even a question Desktop : 1000 watts + / one hour Laptop : unde 200 watts / one hour 4 hours a day saving = 3200 watts savings / one single day 300 days a year X 3200 watts = 960000 watts a year savings and lets round up that to one million = 1000 KW year i would not pay for it = it depends where you live ofcourse but the usa and the e.u. have around 24 cents for one kilowatt = 240 to 250 dollars / euro per one yearthat one does not pay = 1000 dollars/euro savings in 4 years One must think about this things 😉 but if you are a stupid child then all this does not matter and you should ask your parents why you are on youtube

[@Johnello1]

Have you used this laptop since then Ali? Do you have any recomendation / tips or feedback in regards ? Really planning to buy the i9, 4060 version sith 32gb ram ... Just wondering abiut the bad things (extra than the video) that i should be aware or ...thanks man

[@kazmiee]

Sorry about the late reply. The device is now back with the manufacturer unfortunately. I was daily driving it for a month and honestly I overall liked it and was not expecting to. My only specific major issues with the device were... no biometrics, sad webcam, thick and large size, If you can live with these and are leaning towards the rest, the G18 should work well for you in this screen size. Let me know what you decide on... or considering how late I am replying.. let me know what you decided on. Also, is there a specific use case you are looking for with this purchase? Which laptop were you using before this? / currently using?

[@Johnello1]

@@kazmiee thanks for the feedback .in the meantime it became out of stock here where I live so I'll wait some more before buying something ..most probably Jan or february when people are poor after holidays should be the perfect time to buy one ....

[@chrishewlet5471]

I wonder about the noise level on this laptop when browsing or watching a KZbin video. I am trying to make up my mind between this G18 G814JI and the A17 FA707XI. Price wise there is a $300 difference between the two, so not that much. I just need the thing to be not too loud (does that silent mode really work?) Any coil whine?

[@kazmiee]

Apologies for the late reply, the device is back with Asus now but I remember the fan noise was very "whooshy'. No whine at all and the noise level was also very impressively low.

[@FBi_.]

I set mine on silent mode when the charger is plugged in and performance or silent on when i’m using the battery you will not hear any loud fan noise doing it this way

[@Niftydrifty1-t8w]

Please do you recommend me Lenovo legion pro 7i rtx 4080 or Asus rog strix g18 rtx 4080

[@kazmiee]

I am tempted to say the G18? - If portability and mobility does not matter to you much, I think the G18 can offer a bit more? Though, with the Legion you get extra ports, and you also get stuff like TOBII head tracking. I also think, in terms of "PERCEIVED" thermal performance, which is what you feel on the outside on the keyboard deck and all, the G18 was absolutely excellent! HOWEVER, the gen 8 Legion 7 I reviewed was a 4070 which did NOT come with a vapor chamber on the GPU. Regardless, a bigger body show help with thermals. I dunno, I think portability for me would be the main deciding point :)

[@richardcsebak7309]

Does it need cooling pad?

[@kazmiee]

For ambient temperatures up to 25 degrees C.. no, something above 30, perhaps a cooling pad can help for sustained loads. But overall, the G18 had a pretty good thermal solution. If you get it with a 4090, perhaps a cooling pad can then become a bit more relevant

[@alexandrgarlock4075]

Two USBA on one side is the only reason I am not keeping the device.

[@gamerrayan3280]

I got a question i am looking for a gaming and editing laptop and i saw the asus rog strix g18 4080 i9 13980hx for 2000 and i saw the lenovo Legion pro 7i with a 4080 i9 13900hx for 2000 and i was wondering wich of those 2 Will be better to buy (I Watch alot of movies so screen is important😁)

[@kazmiee]

Thank you for your question Rayyan and I do apologize for the late response; I wonder if you have made your decision already. :/ Other than the screen size, I believe for the specific SKUs you are considering, both are IPS panels with a similar color gamut and similar brightness levels. HOWEVER, I am not sure which region you're from and you may be getting the ROG Nebula HDR displays which is a 10 bit display with HDR brightness going to 1100 nits. For the Legion 7, I dont think they have a miniled option. You will have to consider the Legion 9 for that - not sure if you had that in consideration. ASSUMING the former, considering both have a similar price tag and since you like watching movies, I am sure You wont mind a bigger screen, however not sure how portable you want your device to me. If you are not going to move it around too much, The G18 seems like a better choice. You're also getting the slightly more powerful CPU, though if you are not intending to have large CPU bound workloads (AutoCAD, Premiere etc ), you should still be perfectly okay with the 13900HX. BUT, you get a 720P webcam - not great for meetings. If you're okay with the size and the gamer styling, the G18 can be a nice machine over the Legion. Hope that helps! Let me know if you have any further questions

[@Dizel232]

hi. help me choose please. I'm choosing between legion 7pro with 14900 and 4080, and asus rog g18 14900 and 4070. I had problems with the previous asus rog (defective video card, paint on the D button rubbed off, one button stopped working). now I'm afraid to buy asus... but maybe in 2024 they will be better. I really need professional advice ☺️

[@plingela276]

Спасибо за душевный ролик

[@kazmiee]

Thank you for your support and kind words!

[@ahmadtn4792]

8:00 that was painful

[@kazmiee]

"No laptops were harmed or injured in the making of this film" hehe

[@kennysponto6568]

Please Review the 2023 vector GP68hx rtx 4080 with a 144hz retro 1969 black & white tearing display... Absolute garbage. Can always use the power brick as an anchor for a small boat. Or one cement boot 🥾 in case you have dispose of a dead body.

[@kazmiee]

Haha, I have always found that when manufacturers try to make budget gaming laptops, they throw money at making it more... "gamer-esque" and giving it strange styling and the actual hardware, they will compromise on. Better to spend slightly higher for the mainstream offering or don't spend at all. I have been thinking about checking out the LOQ series by lenovo and seeing if they can offer better value than hand held devices.. I mean the Legion Go and the LOQ with the 4050 is the same price.

[@krsnadasschleusener3367]

8:09 My man stealth shows a basket of twix and m&ms while talking about the childish styling of the laptop!

[@kazmiee]

Hahaha, eagle eyed viewing award nominee right here. I had to get into the right vibe for this review so I chose the twix and mnm way.

[@WilliamTaylor-h4r]

I got the ryzen one, its like 4 pounds lighter. Its hella cool on the bus until it started to explode giving paid speeches at the gym.

[@thomasmead4642]

PIN login only then.

[@alanliang9538]

no 4080 4090 no 18inch

[@oterkoo]

Size matters bro😂

[@Pongscript1984]

I got the ROG Strix G18 2024(i9/4070), got the same specs as you... but this video from ROG Global is same as mine.. i though im having a printed ROG eye.. but got this instead. glowing ROG eye, which changes based on keyboard rgb. kzbin.info/www/bejne/apmlgYGCpaiSnsk just take not its not Scar, since it doesnt have led on rear vents..

[@miraclechibuzo5673]

My kind of review 😅

[@kazmiee]

@@miraclechibuzo5673 oh hey thanks Miracle Chibuzo! Glad you liked my content

[@2022spacekw]

hhh nice review

[@tac2456]

This is the worst best laptop I ever got. If you wanna get blind, buy it. The screen quality is terribly glossy. Asus (Europe) is over guys...

[@kazmiee]

Do you have a favorite brand these days?

[@tac2456]

@@kazmiee Acer apparently went from worst to best because of new ownership, they have renewed their brand

[@kazmiee]

@@tac2456 I should definitely check out Acer's recent predator laptops and put out a review. Thanks for sharing your thoughs. Which laptop are you currently using?

[@tac2456]

@@kazmiee I'm using the one that you reviewed on this video, but because I didn't know the European version of the G18 strix 4070 has a terrible screen comparing to the American one, now I'm having a problem with my the right eye. Side by side with my old Asus laptop of 8 years ago, the old one has a much better screen (full hd), never had any problem with it. Of course I'm very disappointed.. 2310€ for a bad screen laptop...and to think that kids are using this, it's unbelievable.

[@kazmiee]

@@tac2456 oh wow. That big a difference? Sorry to hear about that. Why would Asus do that? Are you planning to replace it soon?

[@kennysponto6568]

Funny review