Asus TUF Z790 BTF Gaming Wifi Review - much more than just good looks

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Specs of the PC seen in this video (Please note links listed here include affiliate links which may earn me a commission at no cost to you): Case - Corsair 6500X go.corsair.com/QyodrY Motherboard - ASUS TUF Gaming Z790-BTF WiFi amzn.to/3WtrEsS CPU - Intel Core i9-13900K amzn.to/3Wbk8Bf RAM - Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 16GB x 2 6200MHz (go.corsair.com/eKAL3Z) NVMe SSD - WD_BLACK SN850X NVMe amzn.to/3Y5DJFB SSDs - Crucial MX500 2TB and Crucial BX500 2TB kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4Ctf6yYgL9nrc0 PSU - Corsair RMShift 1000X white (go.corsair.com/1rv9Ra) CPU Cooler - Corsair iCUE Link H150i RGB Liquid CPU Cooler amzn.to/3zKJEGf LCD screen - Corsair iCUE LINK AIO LCD Screen Module amzn.to/4d1ryxK Fans - Corsair iCUE Link RX120 RGB (two triple packs and singles) amzn.to/3Se0G5R GPU - ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX™ 4070 Ti SUPER BTF White OC Edition 16GB GDDR6X www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/tuf-gaming/tuf-rtx4070tis-o16g-btf-white/

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

Thanks for another informative video, Prawn. I have this motherboard and btf gpu in my personal rig with a Corssir 6500x and I'm really enjoying it so far. And this video helped me learn more about the features and watchouts. It looks great without cables and runs fantastic with my i5-13600k. Building with a btf motherboard is so much easier and I especially like the btf gpu as you don't have a bit of gpu sag.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Very nice!

[@micahconn8539]

would have put the rad on top as a push exhaust, intake from side and bottom, and a exhaust fan on the rear vent too. 6 in 4 out positive pressure, clean dust in vents monthly...

[@PaoloDenti]

Thanks, fantastic video again. I would probably update the bios as very first thing before installing Windows, preparing a USB stick on another pc and directly updating it as the very first thing

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Thanks for sharing

[@justanobody4983]

Cpu fan is at the front since you really cant hide that wire at the back. Much better to be in front as its hidden by the tower already. A much cleaner look rather than the tower fan wires looping to the back.

[@wasitacatisaw83]

The problem isn't BIOS related. There are production defects (via oxidation) actually on the CPU dies that were discovered in 2023. They are using BIOS updates to try to hide this by dropping voltages.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

That's not the whole story though is it. It's not every CPU nor has that even been confirmed to be the whole problem officially

[@wasitacatisaw83]

@@TheProvokedPrawn ​ No, it's not every CPU, but they're being sketchy about RMAs, any damage that has already occurred is irreversible, and the BIOS updates they're scrambling to put out only limit performance and overclocking potential. They can't fix a production defect.

[@moonchild666]

​@@wasitacatisaw83The situation doesn't look amazing, but we don't know the full story yet. It's too early to draw absolute conclusions.

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

You're buying into all of the click bait content creators causing a stir about this. I build alot of pcs each year (AMD and Intel) and I've had no problems with a single 13th or 14th gen cpu so far. I think we need to wait and see what additional details are uncovered as Intel works through this. The Gamer's Nexus "report" was full of wild and irresponsible assumptions / conjectures that have really worked some people up. Most pc people are playing a wait and see approach and I think that's smart. I do think that Intel should have released the lot numbers of the small batch of oxidation defective cpus by now.

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

@@wasitacatisaw83 It could very well be a very small number of cpus impacted by the oxidation. It's way too early to make the jump you're making.

[@mrbabyhugh]

4:42 i saw a video feature where they did test and there is a possibility, may be slight but the more NVMe used is the slower the possibility of the PCIe slots. I will be using those PCIe slots so, I am considering internal SSDs for games and other work related stuff.... will see.

[@mrbabyhugh]

3:35 i dont know, maybe CPU fan cables arent long enough, doubt that, dunno. If RGB is at the back then why the fan at the front, the cables should be same length.

[@mrbabyhugh]

0:19 can you explain, maybe you have in another video why you have the radiator hose at the bottom, below the pump? i am seeing too many different things about what is the most appropriate orientation for radiator installation, and actually confused now.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4LGqox-fNl0qNU

[@Jay2bro]

also so for the CPU_fan header on the front is probably one of the requirement and standardization for any Intel based motherboard, since intel used to (and still does in boxed variants) ship a factory 1x120mm fan with their CPU's and that cable on the fan is really short. Again I might be tottaly missing the mark, but this seemed like a really common and logical stand on why exactly it's located where it is, if I'm wrong please feel free to correct me.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

I didn't see it on the MSI project zero motherboard which is why I thought it was odd here

[@Jay2bro]

@@TheProvokedPrawn oh yeah, i actually was looking to get either the TUF z90 BTF, or the gigbyte Z790 AERO G, But as far as i know Asus always has put the CPU_fan connector on the same position on the boards, but interestingly enough the msi doesn't have it

[@MorgFlame]

What's your favourite case for zero cable project builds? I know like asus tuf, msi project zero are like doing zero cables with the motherboards. That being said, the cases are a bit strict, that's why I want to know what's your favourite case for this style of build?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

I've not seen that many yet tbh. Hopefully it becomes more of a thing

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

@@TheProvokedPrawn I truly hope this becomes a mainstream feature for builds. It looks great and mostly makes building easier.

[@lnz971]

why not using a contact frame???

[@mrbabyhugh]

3:04 this is what i was waiting for. you had said "you can ditch your standard PCIE cables", not correct, you still have to connect it at the back of the Mobo.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Yes Captain Pedantic you are right 😂😂😂

[@calldeltosell]

@@mrbabyhugh - PCIE does not magically stop existing in all places in the system as I understand it not do graphics cards run on mythical unicorn 💩., It's the PCB extension and matching slot provide a means to eliminate the extra power cables (PCIE, I am led to understand) on the GPU which may appeal to someone who has an aversion to seeing cables. So, what Mr. Prawn 🦐 said is 💯% accurate. This behind the back birthing person board has, in fact, eliminated the cables on the GPU when using that matching GPU.

[@Karvega11]

Who the hell is Zed? And how did you come up with that?

[@wasitacatisaw83]

You realise that's how most of the rest of the world pronounces the letter "Z" right?

[@Karvega11]

@@wasitacatisaw83 No, but why?

[@wasitacatisaw83]

@@Karvega11 Because we do

[@wasitacatisaw83]

@@Karvega11 It's only Americans and people trying to be American that say "Zee"

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

British English is the best

[@inferno18-z6s]

sometimes when i turn my pc on it boots normally i see msi logo but after that the display goes black like monitor is completely turned off but monitor remains on actually after that i fix it by unplugging and plugging back montior then i get display or i have to unplug dp cable from gpu or monitor and then plug again that also fixes the issue do u know what might be the problem?

[@Heewen1997]

Could I recreate this build with a B650M motherboard and an AMD chip? I understand I wouldn't be able to use the power supply from the motherboard in this case, due to compatibility issues. The Intel thing is making me hesitant to purchase it at the moment.

[@cheekster777]

Thank you.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

No. Thank you for watching and supporting

[@cheekster777]

@@TheProvokedPrawn 🤩

[@edvinekstrom8001]

are there any vertical mounts for btf??

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

not that I am aware of no.

[@onlylordx]

You must use the Hydro shift then it would Look so much cleaner

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Maybe!

[@KBrown-pu2xe]

Does this card support windows dynamic lighting.

[@bytorthesnowdogs2112]

im almost taking its safer to build a pc right now with a 12gen cpu until they fix all the overheating issues with 13 & 14?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Possibly

[@wasitacatisaw83]

Nice motherboard and all that, but surely no-one is building high end Intel systems at the moment what with the CPU suicide issues?

[@ldandco]

Call me crazy but i am planning on getting a 14900K by next month. I plan on deliding it and undervolt it, which should potentially help with the issues.

[@wasitacatisaw83]

@@ldandco Crazy. Not only will you be buying a CPU with well documented issues, you're going to immediately void the warranty so you're stuck with it.

[@moonchild666]

Gone for this board with a 12700k. More than enough for my needs. Not in the least bit concerned.

[@justanobody4983]

@@ldandcoim a intel guy too but for now i think its best to wait for the next gen since its proven that these cpus have something wrong with them. I have a 14600k and just praying that it can last 3 more years before i need to upgrade. But its up to you, you know the risk.

[@christian_dionisio]

me, worrying for my 14700k for the future

[@gameotic1]

Nothing is going to happen. I down clocked the P cores to 5.1Ghz E cores to 3.9Ghz. cooler quieter. Just wait for the motherboard manufacturer to drop the latest bios.

[@calldeltosell]

Am I the only one? BTF doesn't appeal to me at all. The power blade looks intriguing - maybe a tad bit of free antisag.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Fair enough. 👍🏼

[@calldeltosell]

BTF board - I have nothing against them, I just think it's a bit of faff to have to limit/match cases. {Warning incoming Grandpa stitch} back in my day we didn't want to see the cables - we put it in a big metal box that you couldn't see through. Bwahahaa I also don't like the fish tank cases although I did pickup a Lian Li Evo XL because of the size. I can get 140mm rads in it. I agonised over illuminated in white or black and not. I did settle on the latter. The only complaint I have as I start is I require a strong torch to see just about everything. I tease a tad on being an old boy - but it's more accurate than I care to discuss. There was a non fish tank XL case I looked at with promise, but I think the 60mm 420 will fit better even though it's 90°. I so enjoy both the pace and tenor of your presentation.

[@platypus1287]

No gen 5 is a dealbreaker

[@ixCeRRuTixi]

Tutorial on: How to kill an AIO cooler 101

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

you've clearly watched Gamer's Nexus and fully misunderstood the video. Bravo. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4LGqox-fNl0qNU

[@RiGoRmOrTiSUK]

I wouldn't be touching Asus and Intel at the moment.

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

Why?

[@daunted232]

@@Bobo-ey8fc warrenty issues

[@wasitacatisaw83]

@@RiGoRmOrTiSUK absolutely right

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

​@daunted2322 This is one of the reasons I like The Prawn's videos. None of the nonsensical drama around brand loyalists and the often inaccurate and heavily dramatized issues with warranty problems, etc. I build over a hundred pcs each year and every now and then I have to rma a component, it happens. But I'm astonished how many people buy into these content creators who claim to be journalists and get people worked up about things.

[@RiGoRmOrTiSUK]

@@Bobo-ey8fc your calling Gamers Nexus a drama merchant? ROFL..