Atari Jaguar (Part 1) - Angry Video Game Nerd (AVGN)

[@ShubhamGupta-ir2gn]

"People started caring about the graphics and less about the actual gameplay" Some things never change

[@marieparisi4522]

What of undertale and hollow knight

[@hakureikirisame1173]

Yes, kinda sad to see that happenin'. Castlevania, Journey to silius etc. Atleast they made advantage of the limitations, and gave us with a fun gameplay!

[@rollingbecks]

well you can burn your red dead redemption 2 and play some atari games xd

[@WellBeSerious12]

By that thinking, you'd still be having games only using shitty 16-bit graphics.

[@davidtierney7941]

WellBeSerious12 you’re part of the problem!

[@-u-waa]

RIP Boo, the real Jaguar. Shine on, you crazy cat.

[@oz_jones]

@Maxus Devasteitor I mean this is over a decade old

[@GhalidiusTrident]

Is that the cat that appears in this episode that takes out the jaguar cube?

[@-u-waa]

@@GhalidiusTrident Yes

[@TheRaggedyDandyRandy]

is this Pink Floyd?

[@djblackhat]

@@TheRaggedyDandyRandy no this is Patrick

[@CallMeSugarMilk]

Does anyone else really love it when James does these types of episodes where he gives us the history behind the game/console he's reviewing?

[@retrogamereviews6207]

Who doesnt eh?

[@batty.b]

they're my favorite episodes

[@brandontherabboat4850]

+Deadly Dearest Same here.

[@varikvalefor]

What did they ever do to you?

[@mollz3704]

The video game console episodes are my favorites

[@duckplayerfilthybaboon8]

4:12 I love it when he just acts out a conversation. Never failed to make me laugh.

[@TrojanGamer10]

It's the most realistic conversation too

[@TheScribe1.0]

@@TrojanGamer10indeed.

[@mario167100]

Today: "HEY DAD! Can I get the new PS4 pro?!" "Don't you already have one!" "Yeah but this one is 60 fps 4K!!" "Whats that?" "........I don't know..."

[@logannottheonefrommarvel9917]

The Plains Jam lmao

[@tifforo1]

It's only 4k if your TV is.

[@tifforo1]

Also just like the number of bits that a processor is does not fully indicate how good the processor is because a 32-bit processor with 4 gigs of memory could conceivably be better than a 64-bit processor with 4 gigs of memory 1440p screen could conceivably be better in some other ways than a 4K screen.

[@BrookerBracker]

tifforo1 no shit

[@LikeAntennasToHeaven]

Examples like: People cared more about the graphics instead of the actual gameplay. It brought our sense of gaming to numbers. And even More!

[@alphacoffeesins9197]

Now it's an old video but James actually helped me through my depression and I would like to thank Cinemassacre for that

[@southbeachtalent]

Love comments like this. It's amazing what some simple, delightful distractions can help us get back in the right head space

[@GrizzlyCHarry]

Same I want to thank him

[@businesswolle666official]

damn son

[@alexp279]

Sounds like you weren’t actually depressed if a guy making videos on KZbin helped you

[@Pusfilth]

the necromancer bruh when I’m having a bad week I’ll binge some AVGN to stop me from jacking off.

[@marsshadow117]

"The 'Bit Wars" brought down our sense of gaming to numbers." Wow... that's fucking heavy, especially today.

[@kylele23]

Yeah, now we have 4K and people complaining that they can't play games because they aren't perfect 60 FPS. Times have changed, yet stayed the same. How odd.

[@MinusTheRogue]

kinda funny back then just 30 years ago everyone was still using the bits in games, now we're downloading like 20 GB games these days :p

[@AaronKaiMCDNLD]

the "Bit Wars" was the predecessor of Our generation's graphics war who can play at 1080 or 4k who can play games at 60fps see? it's still there

[@AaronKaiMCDNLD]

***** kid it's just an example

[@AaronKaiMCDNLD]

***** i mean i know you're a tech expert but please im just using that 4K Bullcrap For Example....Do i have to make Examples as 100% true as possible?

[@BadWisdom523]

For some reason I absolutely lost my shit when you said “so they stopped naming them after numbers and started naming them after cats”. That is hilarious. What happened in that meeting?!?!

[@Trifixion22]

Probably had to do with somebody making a pussy joke.

[@jacaredosvudu1638]

Because they wont make the Atari 10400

@@jacaredosvudu1638 that's like a CPU name like Intel Core i5 9400F

[@xm_heecka.laddder.job_mx5962]

Nah, It's not weird, that was original XD

[@litteralbiskit]

If I ever make a game console. I'm naming it after a dog breed

[@JudgementKazuhiraPrime]

"People started caring about graphics more than gameplay" did he just predict the future?

[@KDNG105]

No he didn't because it already happened for a long time.

[@KDNG105]

***** what ? nobody mentioned anything about bits in this conversation

[@jjammmees]

Future Castiel is your future?

[@Anonymousan0n]

that's stupid the correct way to judge a game is graphics,game play,music, and how fun it is.

[@ttv0]

Graphics don't mean shit, if a game has good graphics it deserves praise for it, but it should never impact the overall view of the game.

[@strocat25]

The Jaguar boils down to six words.. "where did you learn to fly?"

[@mrbackup993]

6:2=3 LOOMY NOOTY D:

[@mrbackup993]

BonziBUDDY thx :3

[@TymphaRedbreaduwuowo]

Andrew Wells AAHHH jkust pulling ur peg buddy have a good one!

[@TymphaRedbreaduwuowo]

Andrew Wells your ways

[@cakestalker]

I learned to fly at the aviation academy aka "flight school".

[@Howlingburd19]

“I want a Super Nintendo for Christmas!” “Don’t you already have a Nintendo?” “Yeah, but this one’s 16 bit!” “What’s that?” “...I don’t know...” Lol

[@kottykotty7640]

4:12 Thank me later. _yes, i do know that this comment is 8 months old_

[@niko5008]

@@kottykotty7640 thanks. Ok, i said it 7 months later, are we good now or you need more time?

[@kottykotty7640]

@@niko5008 perfect timing. thank you!

[@justinw9455]

I just kept begging my mom to buy me new consoles because of the graphics in the 90s.

[@nthgth]

@Stefano Pavone interesting journey. I'm in the States but only got started with NES in 1993 because a family friend gave us his system and games (and power glove!). Then it was Sega Genesis/MD because Sonic 3&K was, and still is, my absolute jam. I don't think I even knew about SNES until about when N64 was about to come out, somehow lol

[@Tiberius_Gracchus]

10 years later and im still watching. Love the classic nerd episodes

[@christiannugraha1011]

Never gets old. Strangely comforting even.

[@strappedsunshine1046]

I remember being like 4 and having the Sega System, my parents sold it and I asked my mom why that man was taking my Sega... They felt bad and bought me an NES a week later. Then when I was 13 they bought me a N64, Diddy Kong Racing and Star Fox. Looking back my parent's were amazing.

[@evilubuntu9001]

You fool! The Sega Master System was the shizzy! Alex Kid, Afterburner...Enduro Racing? Your parents were FOOLS!! I will sell my stinky underpants for a SMS right now!

[@gabrielsmalls1774]

UBUNTU UBUNTU Sonic too!

[@LotteYanson]

What SEGA system? Master System or Game Gear?

[@WhereDidYouLearnToFly]

where did you learn to fly?

[@cmb9173]

Cybermorph FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[@Lucios1995]

7:27 "Atari was originally planning a 32-bit system called the Panther but decided to skip it and *leap* ahead." Oh James!

[@Trifixion22]

I feel like an idiot for not getting it...

[@justanotherbum007]

I don't get it

[@orion_x-000]

Wait. Skip it, and leap ahead. I think I get it.

[@secondhandfreiza8838]

@@Trifixion22 king crimson from jjba part 5 for people who don't get it.

[@qwertyrainetmir7743]

KINGU CRIMSUNO NU NORYUKE

[@michaelhall736]

The Jaguar was pretty ambitious for the time. The technology just wasn't there yet and it lacked third party support because it was way too difficult and expensive to program. If it came out a few years later, it probably would've been a massive success.

[@Howitchewstofeel5gum]

Doubtful. If they had released it later with the Playstation already on the market, I think even less people would've given a shit about it.

[@bangerbangerbro]

@@Howitchewstofeel5gum At least when it came out it would have been the only thing other than a decent spec PC (or equally expensive 3DO) with proper 3D games.

[@minix07]

Probably not

[@MissJackietheLakester]

What if the Panther came into fruition instead of the Jaguar?

[@paleo704]

64 Bit in that era was super revolutionary. I remember though it was so expensive

[@anonymousgamecritic9832]

Best game that shows the Jags power, despite being a 2D game; is Rayman.

[@TheLambdaTeam]

Soooo, you did actually play some JAAAAG?

[@xm_heecka.laddder.job_mx5962]

@@TheLambdaTeam Yes, it wasn't a bad system.... actually AVGN usually kinda blew things out of proportion to be funny to viewers, sadly not many AVGN videos have that- That's just True this system is bad and this game is cr@p - Element which make episodes trully hylarious and a teaching experience

[@batcat2338]

So TRUE

[@oldchannelhehe]

I loved Rayman 3D

[@seanmyster6]

"Nobody ever talked about bits before that, and nobody ever talked about bits since." Yeah, now we just talk about pixels and framerates.... basically, nothing's changed.

[@1967sluggy]

I don't give a shit about pixels, I only want a 60fps so the gameplay isn't choppy. Gameplay and story is my thing.

[@ShunShinimaru]

+Bazingaman 117 why does everybody want 60fps? Are you playing MLG Call of Duty tournaments or something? What is it that you have to do that goes so quickly that you need to react within 1/60th of a second? Are you training to become an airforce pilot????

[@ShunShinimaru]

***** yeah good enough is different from good. I see now.

[@ShunShinimaru]

***** I was trying to say I get your point. "30fps is good enough but 60fps is good". That's what I got from the conversation.

[@Retrocidal]

+seanmyster6 but but i can render ten more blades of grass 0-o :D

[@SnortsOfHappiness]

Graphics aren't necessarily important, but aesthetics *are* important. After all, most of the information you're getting while playing a game is visual; that part should at least look decent. Shovel Knight doesn't have great graphics persay, but it looks good, which actually is important.

[@lamfan3591]

I personally hate graphic standards, all I care about, graphics wise, is that they don't hurt my eyes, and its not mostly one color, other than that graphics don't mean anything

[@SnortsOfHappiness]

Good graphics also help with functionality. If the visual design is good it will be clear what does what and so forth.

[@bigbruno2232]

+SnortsOfHappiness Thats kind of my thoughts when it comes to graphics. It just has to look like the way it suppose to. One example : The Order 1886 good graphics not a great game.

[@SpeedyEric1]

"What's the most important aspect of any game? ...Well, being able to fuckin' play it." -James Rolfe (November 2006)

[@the5snowblind]

graphics don't matter to me personally if the game is fun and entertains you and has a good story then the graphics shouldn't matter

[@Dill_Pickle1997]

Remember when life used to be simple and cool, and people talked about how many bits their consoles had?

[@henrywashington3732]

I'm 41 and remember the Genesis Does with 16 Bit graphics. The Turbo Grafx 16 was cool also. I'm super happy with PS2 even though I have zero time to play. My kids got newer systems, but so many games I haven't even played on Ps2 yet.

[@PsychoIncarnate666]

I grew up with NES, then Super Nintendo But I had no idea what bits were until the N64

[@CpnGame]

As opposed to today, where life is complicated and people talk about how many "p"s their graphics are.

[@PsychoIncarnate666]

and frames

[@isetmfriendsofire]

Honestly, that's sorta happening again, but in a different way. 60 fps, 4k, etc.

[@gokturk15]

I only have one question: Where did James learn to fly?

[@isaiahchapman7660]

I don't know, where did you learn to fly?

[@ashertelvallo9480]

Where did YOU learn to fly?

[@shagheadguy4805]

Top gear on nes

[@AhmedGamil98]

Top Gun Academy

[@kwc0435]

@@ashertelvallo9480 star fox

[@jupiter9099]

Gaming history is pretty interesting. Companies were experimenting with technology left and right.

[@Karmy.]

Yep

[@russellbrown6888]

Jupiter9099 And it continues to this day. Motion controls with the Wii; touch controls with the Nintendo DS; voice control with the Xbox Kinect; online multiplayer and distribution services with Xbox Live and Steam; the list goes on.

[@Miscq309]

Jupiter9099 you should stop eating sweets cuz ur going to get diabetes

[@jupiter9099]

DarkShiv Angels are immune to diabeetus.

[@Karmy.]

DarkShiv Diabeetus

[@Randomark3087]

"Where'd the other 48 Bits go?" I love that line. 😂

[@Master_Blaster_84]

My favorite to 😂 now PS5 advertise PS5 with 8k,4k and 120fps,now you can say "Where'd the other 90fps go" 😂

[@ElFino013]

"Play some Jaaaaaaaag." You been watching Top Gear?

[@jm036]

LOL it's possible.

[@Noobsaibot21]

Awfully sorry... I've left my wallet in the Jaaaaaaaaag

[@Kashi-K]

HAMMOND

[@superkooper6594]

CLARKSON

[@A_Player]

R.I.P. Boo, the real Jaguar. :(

[@nextscitt5046]

Yeezy Sneezy avgn’s cat

[@nextscitt5046]

Yeezy Sneezy died from old age. Boo lived more than 10 years. What did ya expect?

[@nextscitt5046]

Yeezy Sneezy You’re dumb. You don’t even respect the death of boo.

[@GunSmoke008]

@@StephenG994 no you're not

[@itsastikbotparty8149]

Yeezy Sneezy Alright if you can’t respect the death of this guys pet, you can just FUCK OFF

[@ECL28E]

"Gamers cared more about the graphics and less about the actual gameplay" Gee, I'm glad gaming isn't like that at all today, AM I RITE?!

[@bagofgroceries]

HYUK HYUK HYUK "pc master race" yeah right, the stupid bit Wars is YOUR FAULT.

[@wwemonkey619]

ECL28E PC gaming in a nutshell

[@ToastyMozart]

Now it's more the publishers caring more about the graphics then gameplay: With most console games getting knecapped down to 30FPS just to push fancier visuals for the trailer.

[@patriciooliva541]

Its Like that sense PlayStation come out.

[@Archivist42]

Funnily enough things haven't changed much really. Rather than being 8 bit vs 16 bit, it's 900p vs 1080p. Who knows, one day it may be 4k vs 5k gaming!

[@Marbl3Puppy]

***** Right now I think it's 1080p VS 4K. 60hz VS 120hz VS 144hz. 5k probably won't be used commonly, to the point where it wouldn't have a fancy term like 4K. I think that it will come down to 4k vs 8k before people stop caring.

[@coalsgrey3484]

Marble_ That is because 4k is already challenging the abilities of our eyes.

[@NecroCh]

Marble_ It so stupid and it will never stop at least we teach PC gamer that graphics doesn´t matter

[@coalsgrey3484]

Ⓓⓐⓥⓘⓓ Ⓡⓐⓜⓘ́ⓡⓔⓩ "You" do not teach that. And it is not stupid. It's a scientific miracle. And I can calm you down, there will not be 8k resolution. Like, seriously, there will not be. At least we two will not witness it.

[@redavatar]

+Marble_ No no, the real war is in framerates - too many console games use only 30fps which is ludicrous - the PC game version often suffers from this because it's really nowhere near as smooth as a solid 60fps. 120hz doesn't mean squat if you can't run 120fps ...

[@Cnw8701]

This two-parter will forever remain one of my most memorable and favorite videos from the AVGN! Fucking hilarious, and will always be remembered as a part of my childhood!

[@Imufur]

"people began to care more about the graphics and less about actual gameplay" hmm I think we are going through one of those phases again

[@ITSTAKING]

We're smack dab in the middle of it in 2019.

[@ElectronicPleasure]

Yes and no, the Jag had so much to offer. But it was so different that programmers never had time to really build for it. Before it went defunct

[@MabuseXX]

ElectronicPleasure it also had some serious bugs in the HW. You had to program around them and some features were completely broken.

[@adriankwok1406]

i hate how consels and even the 3ds will have regular version and then a suped up version that doesn't have any exclusive games or anything but is still bought by people for some reason and conversely pc people bragging about how there supercomputer that is responsible for a mortage and simply runs games at billion fps

[@marieparisi4522]

True but we'll live and have both graphics and. Gameplay

[@TreeTats]

I watched these when I was a kid, and loved it. Still love AVGN

[@CallMeSugarMilk]

"YEAH BUT THIS ONES 16-BIT!!" "Whats that?" ".......I dont know" LMFAO I dont know whats funnier, the idk part or that pause and face he makes right before it, either way still kills me xD

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

CallMeSugarMilk Funnily enough, someone used that clip when I asked them a joke question for a Q&A video.

[@TheScribe1.0]

I think both the IDK part and the face pause were both equally as funny. Lol

[@GreenMushroomful]

I love when you do the history of the games and consoles. I find it so interesting!

[@yahyalaouici9749]

that's true I find you so interesting

[@caydenmichael98]

Yahya Laouici stop you're the reason you scare away girls from this fanbase...

[@Godslayer1975]

Cayden Michael if that scares girl away then there pathetic jokes who can’t take compliments. Maybe losers like you should not be like most Americans these days all feelings and cry babie. Girls cry they get no compliments then cry when a guy or other girl gives them one. I wish people like you would leave if your offended to bad you have no right to not be so deal with it and second stop speaking for others she might like a compliment and he was not rude very polite for KZbin

[@failinginamerica]

@@Godslayer1975 You don't know what a 'compliment' is, lol

[@Scott-tk8gi]

I love how these videos are the exact same as today so it's not as weird when you go back and look at older videos which are usually worse, but these have always been great

[@PSYCLOWN185]

We are back to this point again. People think if its not 60 fps and 1080p its a piece of shit not worth playing.

[@yaysin]

resolution I don't care about, but 60 fps should be the standard for every AAA game that comes out nowadays.

[@blackxcrowdy]

yea, it kinda irritates me to see whinings of group of people I call "frame-rate whores" nowadays

[@yaysin]

blackxcrowdy Can you really blame them when shit companies like Ubisoft exist?

[@blackxcrowdy]

Officer Moron I don't play consoles anymore. what does ubisoft do that has anything to do with framerates?

[@yaysin]

blackxcrowdy force 30 fps on PC which is a middle finger to mid to high-end PC owners. i don't know if they still do that today but hopefully they've learned their lessons. also, visual downgrades and the like.

[@adamsangry]

I have to admit that I'm addicted to this channel. I've been watching it for 3 days straight

[@richard7645]

It got me though lockdown

[@shadowoftiger116]

"People started caring about graphics more than gameplay", wow.....major foreshadowing

[@lennartmeyerstenfjeld9473]

It's not foreshadowing if it was already true at the time.

[@miltonvargas4557]

And that is why people pick Xboxone and ps4 instead of the wii u,gamers nowadays only care about the graphics more than the gameplay

[@KDNG105]

milton vargas Not like PS4 and Xbone have games they want that's not on Wii U or anything

[@FilmStrife]

before it was 8-bit vs 16-bit vs 32-bit 64-bit.... nowadays its 1080p 60 fps vs 900p 30 fps. same shit different toilet

[@PygmalionFaciebat]

FilmStrife2 You hit the nail right on his head. I agree !

[@earlycuyler2295]

When i was like 12ish i remember being at toys r us and wishing id gotten a jaguar instead of a playstation...dodged a bullet there.

[@hellomario8708]

you should've gotten the atari jaguar tbh.

[@hitkid2456]

You were definitely prescient then, not even getting SS

[@David315842]

Tom, a 32 bit graphic processor. Jerry, a 32 bit sound processor. Together they make 64 bits and the Jaguar became a reality.

[@David315842]

***** A UK kids programme from the 90's called Bad Influence! actually went in depth into the Jaguar and the two 32-bit chips were shown off.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

+Warren Smith Exactly. And the graphics it put out weren't any better than what you could get on the SNES anyway.

[@Bauglir100]

Capitalizing Every Damn Word Makes You Look So Clever.

[@bagofgroceries]

Tom and Jerry? They must love Hanna-Barbera

[@David315842]

The people behind the design of the processors probably were? :)

[@hypernoob8365]

"This year I want a Super Nintendo for Christmas!" "Don't you have already a Nintendo?" "Yeah, but this is 16 bits!" "And what's that?" "I dunnow" James Rolfe, Cinemassacre 2006.

[@hypernoob8365]

TheDreReichDude I'll give ya' a Supa' Nintendope.

[@muskatDR]

"It was also backwards compatible with the 2600 games" And today game consoles still has problems getting this down

[@Pikachu132]

To be fair, the backwards compatability of the 7800 wasn't perfect either, with several games glitching up or not even working at all.

[@101Volts]

@@Pikachu132 Some cartridges barely fit. I had Artillery Duel which, although it fit, was difficult.

[@FinnManusia]

At least PS3 can play PS1 games

[@user-td3uj8is5i]

@@FinnManusia Only the early models can play ps games

[@zacharymusgrove6174]

Only Sony, Microsoft is getting it down pat nicely

[@johnhorne3052]

We never said "play some jag". We always told people that we were jaggin' off.

[@WillEatForFood]

So does the Xbox 360 have 360 bits?

[@WhereDidYouLearnToFly]

where did you learn to fly?

[@HamzaAnsari1425]

By that rationale, Xbox One has one bit then :p

[@lordhood117]

Nah, just 360 ways to get bricked.

[@axelfoley20]

No. Everything we have, computers and consoles are only 64 bit. Bottom line, we have not yet got to 128 bit.

[@0p10ids7]

axelfoley20 The gamecube is 128 bits boi

[@dacypher22]

The Jaguar was a prime example of some computer science: Bits don't mean graphics. All bits mean is the "word size" of the system, meaning how many bits (1s and 0s) it considers to be one unit of memory. When we are talking about very low bits, like 8, you can't make very big numbers of complex patterns in the memory, so you have to resort to some tricks to do complex things. It also limits how much memory the system can have, since a pointer to a location of memory is a system integer, so the more bits you have, the higher numbers the pointer can take on, and the more memory you can have. 64-bit is as high as a computer system needs to go, because a 64-bit number is freaking huge, 64-bits can represent any written character in the world and 64-bit integers can point to any amount of RAM you are likely to have for a long time. And that is about it for bits. But how powerful a system is is much more than that. Graphics are determined by video memory, GPU speed, architecture and other things. Same with sound.

[@Dan-di9jd]

The problem was the GPU was only 32-bits, but everything else may have been 8-16-32 or 64 bits depending on where the data is going. So that means when you want to do a gpu command, you'd have to downgrade the information from 64 bits to 32 bits chunks or vice versa you might have to convert a 8 bit memory value and upscale it to 32 bits. It makes it really difficult to program something when you don't know whether a data piece is 8, 16, 32, or 64 bits so I imagine the developers probably just stuck with the lowest common denominator and that probably meant the entire system wasn't running at what the hardware makers intended for it to be. If it had more developer support, chances are some development companies would probably make some pretty cool games for it kind of like what happened to the N64/PS1 era where developers could make some cool games based on the limitation of the hardware.

[@ilikethecupholder]

Gotta have a handle.

[@zanesmith666]

I miss these so much. James was so genuine back then

[@Thewolfguys.cartoons2000]

Ikr nowadays he's acting is lacking, I understand he has a family but still

[@IG7799-c4u]

loving how in the intro the controllers being used don't even match the games being played.

[@IG7799-c4u]

Yeah, i know :)

[@IG7799-c4u]

Yeah, he's one of the few who have put much dedication and time into their content. He deserves many more subs than alot of the bigger channels out there in my opinion.

[@shako4907]

+Ian Graham sadly not much kids care for old games and say their graphics suck

[@ajn.televisionakapeachspic1780]

I'm 13 and I love old games. Such as games on the Atari 2600, Genesis, NES, DOS games (kinda went out of order)

[@ajn.televisionakapeachspic1780]

I actually have all of the Elder Scrolls games, though Arena is my least favorite, I still enjoy it. Now Daggerfall, that's a really good DOS game. I'd suggest it to ya. But yeah, AVGN and other gaming channels sparked my interest in old games.

[@bluwolf098]

Let's play some jaaaag More like let's play some jackshit

[@teamrealnew3827]

This is one of the things I appreciate most about your series: how extensive your knowledge of all this is. I actually learn A LOT watching these videos.

[@TigerhawkT3]

6:48 "Where did the other 48 bits go?" More like, where did the other 48 frames per second go? What an awful slideshow. Frame rate should be the last compromise in a game's graphics. A feature or effect that makes the game dip below 60 FPS, or 30 at a minimum, just doesn't belong in it.

[@fennedd]

"HEY DAD! Can i get the NewPlayStation5.7SuperXL4k60FPSSlimX!" "Don't you already have a PlayStation5.7SuperXL4k60FPSSlimX?" "Yhea but this one is "New"" "What's that?" "...I don't know"

[@cbbblue8348]

"Oh yea dad! The new game Final fantasy 58 remastered reboot 4k60fps is coming out,and it only works on NewPlaystation5.7SuperXL4k60FPSSlimX!"

[@fidgetylamb8133]

Nice 2D profile pic

[@ComicWriter-ml3qt]

Nightfans ha! We all know they won’t get to 20 before remastering all of the other ones 50 times, and remaking the fan favorites.

[@Dr.SkullScience77]

Replace 'bits' with 'FPS' and/or resolution (720p/1080p) and you have the pc gamers of today which are encroaching onto ps4/XB1. "Bringing down the sense of gameplay to numbers". Ain't history just repeating!!!

[@daniel55645]

i like the ad. "true 64 bit do the math" when they couldn't even do the math cause it wasn't true 64 bit

[@caplag]

it was 64 bit, it's just that not too many programmers knew how to use the tech.

[@daniel55645]

Aiyetoro Metruian it used a 16-bit CPU, a separate 32-bit RISC processor, and a 16-bit DSP to handle the system's processing chores. While 16+32+16 does add up to 64, those three processors combined do not add up to the power available in a single, true 64-bit model like that used in the N64.

[@ChildOL]

daniel55645 The Jaguar had a 64bit data path in all essence it was "64bit" in power and capability.

[@Mitjitsu]

daniel55645 From what I've heard, it was more powerful than the Saturn. The only problem is because it was so complicated to program. No one came close to being able to take advantage of all the power it had.

[@MrGencyExit64]

Actually, even an 8-bit computer can add up to 64. That only requires 7-bits.

[@chaumas]

To be fair, Star Fox had its own coprocessor built into the cartridge, because the SNES alone couldn't do graphics like that. Also, I would say that while the artwork might not have made great use of it, you can definitely tell in the games you showed that the graphics were higher quality than the Genesis and SNES - but maybe that's only apparent if you're familiar with the specific limitations of those consoles, since the best games were careful to play to their strengths.

[@samw.1608]

What's that Superman 64 cartridge doing there? I thought the nerd threw it into the sun

[@WhereDidYouLearnToFly]

+Sam W. Where did you learn to fly?

[@MaxonerousX]

Peppy hare. Apparently all I needed to do to be an ace pilot was to "DO A FUCKING BARREL ROLL!"

[@SaveThePurpleRhino]

+Sam W. it came back as a NuclearMan !!!

[@yourbrother7835]

Super Man takes his energy from the sun.

[@silverdamascus2023]

+Sam W. The nerd keeps buying again the games he destroyed, so he can keep them in his collection.

[@jamesreid9284]

Mr. Nerd, you nailed it with your whole Atari Jaguar episodes. Better graphics don't necessarily make a better game.

[@Overlord-zn8dt]

Anyone remember when the KZbin app used to be a TV design?

[@hitkid2456]

Yes I used iPod Touch 4... I also still liked Instagram's old icon better.

[@ikelldagay1801]

Man, I remember seeing that in my cousins phone, back then I didn't have internet, nor a cellphone, so I always wondered what that old TV logo was

[@Punkfilms4605]

Its so refreshing to watch these old AVGN videos from years ago. Watched a hell of a lot in High School when I would always be alone, but gotdamn this helped me a lot in finding what I love both film, and video games.

[@surrealsamathee5095]

“But the joysticks were faulty and unreliable” Nintendo making Joycons: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that

[@George-dk6yb]

2:30 Shout to Kmart and my Mom! I saw this mario nintendo stand and I said Sophia "Mom" can I please! I built it so fast when I got home... Man I love my childhood! 80's kids were the best!

[@jamesegan2418]

That theme song makes me feel like I'm watching a legendary sitcom from the nineties

[@coyotechannel4049]

06:00 Please dont open and show your consoles like that. It looks pornographic.

[@chrisjenkins2099]

Graphics obsessions are the main reason why I play games by myself these days. I'm like "Shovel Knight is a fucking insanely fun game" Friend A: "what are you talking about? those graphics suck!! TITANFALL RULES!!" /facepalm

[@Jackdaw132]

joshua powell The xbox is not a retro console

[@Jackdaw132]

SomeGuy 1809 It sucks ass though

[@Jackdaw132]

joshua powell Yeah, I guess

[@TheHulk1850]

SomeGuy 1809 No it doesn't you just hate mircosoft.

[@Jackdaw132]

She-hulk Mann yeah, like the rest of the world

[@chillsgaming1900]

"People began to care more about the graphics and less about the actual gameplay." Isn't that today with the Xbox One, the PS4, and the WiiU?

[@marcosdheleno]

+Snack Attack! "People began to care more about the graphics and less about the actual gameplay." that also happened with the intellivision vs the 2600.

[@sirrh9812]

+Marcos Danilo Well not really the Atari sold vastly more than the intellivision, and the atari was still selling well even after the NES hit the market in some countries. In pretty much all generations the console with the weaker hardware actually turns out the best selling right up until this generation, except for the 4th gen

[@marcosdheleno]

+RHCommandos "Well not really the Atari sold vastly more than the intellivision," never said the oposite... all i said was, the importance of graphics was always there, it doesnt really matter if its done on the weaker hardware or not. in other words, graphics were always a major topic in discussing games, we may disconsider them as just old, now, but at their time, they all wanted to show that part, thats the whole reason for the mode 7, it didnt do much, but it looked cool, so we saw them in games that really didnt need that, like all fina fantasy games on the snes. graphics arent a bad thing, they are a tool, and like many others, it can be "over focused".

[@sirrh9812]

Marcos Danilo Well i'm not against graphics, i'm glad the tech is always on the uprise, but I wouldn't put it before gameplay when it comes to a solid game.

[@marcosdheleno]

+RHCommandos neither do i.

[@cygnusprime6728]

5:43 he makes his own end labels and calls the basketball game "white men can't jump" 😂

[@aldireynaldi3200]

Even funnier because "White man can't jump" Is actually the real title on this game

[@azulina4886]

white men can't jump is also the name of a movie of the same name

[@Vienna3080]

Graphics don’t make a good game good, but it sure as hell can make a game better

[@delskibara8524]

Graphics.. That was the one thing that destroyed gaming..

[@delskibara8524]

Matthew Champlain I like emulating those games, but some of my favorite games has minimal graphics (Minecraft, AVGN Adventures, etc..)

[@delskibara8524]

Matthew Champlain but doom is pixelated. unlike 3d graphics, which you can make out stuff.

[@delskibara8524]

Matthew Champlain OH, i dont really care about bad 3d graphics

[@delskibara8524]

Matthew Champlain Is that on low graphics?

[@WH250398]

+delshady rakhmat Don't forget frame rates...

[@mrboomsnook3671]

4:03 this aged well

[@WiiVampire17]

the hell kind of game is White men can't jump?

[@WiiVampire17]

no i mean the game

[@WiiVampire17]

AVGN should mock the butt out of it

[@kazutothegamer3090]

***** You spelt Basketball wrong

[@jupiter9099]

The sequel to Plumbers Don't Wear Ties.

[@Karmy.]

Jupiter9099 lol

[@teemupuumalainen3051]

Even after hundreds of watched episodes, this version of AVGN intro you never skip

[@davdii]

NES: 8-bit SNES: 16-bit N64: 64-bit GameCube: 128-bit Wii: 256-bit Wii U: 512-bit Switch: 1024-bit Next Nintendo Console: 2048-bit

[@charlescampuz5812]

GizzardGamer Productions The bit wars stopped in the 2000s. Nothing since has gone beyond 128-bit & nothing since tried hardware above 64-bit.

[@stevejohnson4637]

Charles Campuz R/woooosh.

[@yourboijadengaming5042]

Next over 9000

[@kyrocity]

@@charlescampuz5812 r/woooosh

[@krisizcelja]

You don't need to wooosh him, just explain to him what made the joke go over his head. Seriously, I hate seeing r/woooosh in comments.

[@BanjoAndConkerDDR]

Atari still had more successful jaguars than Jacksonville.

[@h8thegr8]

Underrated comment.

[@jm036]

What?

[@spacepirateivynova]

Reality check: Bits are everything. 32 bit operating systems on PC can only address around 4GB of memory (simply put, a bit is a 'switch', either a 1 or a zero) with 4 bits, you can count to 2 to the power of 4, or 16 (normally the amount of colors you can display at once, and the largest number can be processed). With 8 bits, that's 256 colors. With 16, that's far far more. In PC terms, if you want more than 3 GB of memory, you absolutely need a 64 bit operating system and a CPU to match. Realistically, at 64 bits you can count to an enormous number and don't really need much more. It also defines how much throughput you can have, how many switches can be processed in a single clock cycle.

[@chimerschang]

I JUST realized that the Jaguar startup sound is the old "have you played Atari today" jingle!

[@TheGamingGlindon]

7:23 he used a song from doom on the SNES

[@Darkran_240P]

kitchen ace and intermission from doom were used

[@flannelsykes0]

I love that middle finger aimed at the TV at the start. I dont know how many times I've done exactly the same thing especially toward fecking unfair boss battles

[@sysghost]

Oh dear. I remember the Atari Lynx. The "amazing" colour screen. Did I see a colour there?... I think I did... yes.. .there's trace-elements of... yellow there... in the grey-white blurr of light. Oh look... I think that is supposed to be red... but I can barely see it.

[@carrotcommunist9216]

64 bit 32 bit 16 bit 8 bit 4 BIT 2 BIT! 1 BIT!! 1/2 BIT!!!! 1/4 BIT!!!!!!! *THE WRISTTT GAMEEE!!!*

[@vidjenko8349]

the jag is pretty capable, but its maze of processors made it extremely difficult to program for...

[@PosthumanHeresy]

To be fair to the Jaguar, the graphics might have been weaker because they were using the power elsewhere. AI, things you can do, complexity, memory, all kinds of things. Kinda like the difference between a Bioware game and a Bethesda game. Pretty vs. Depth.

[@gameshock2916]

4:00 Here is your answer to what a bit is. Bit stands for Binary Digit and it is a singular piece of data (or datum, to be precise). A bit can either be 0 or 1. And they can be strung together to make a long series of 1s and 0s. But why this is important? Because machine code - the thing that tells computers what to do - is made up of bits. All the games we know and love, with their complex graphics and storylines, can be boiled down to a large string of 1s and 0s. But how can this be? You might ask. How can a 1 or a 0 tell a computer what to do? It all depends on the context. For example, take the machine code 0111 0011. In a certain context, those bits can represent the number 115. But in another context, it can represent the lowercase letters. The same goes for the type of code inserted. In one context, this gibberish represents the number 112940527124480. But in another, it stands for the assembly language command. As you can see, bits can mean many different things. It’s up to the Central Processing Unit (CPU) and Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) on each gaming console to process all those bits and turn them into the games we enjoy playing.

[@erikasakura7721]

"...but decided to skip it an leap ahead." Ha, jaguar, leap.

[@kerplunk99]

Backwards compatibility and gameplay over graphics? Ah, the past.

[@Enternald1]

The good ol days!

[@keiyakins]

Those heady bygone days of... right now, seriously, go stick a wii disk in a wii u. And while it's library is still a little thin, Super Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, etc are all amazing examples of refined gameplay.

[@kerplunk99]

Chloe Mononym what about gamecube and everything before wii?

[@keiyakins]

If you're going for the most polished gameplay you can, it's smart to iterate, not throw everything out and start over each time.

[@kerplunk99]

Keiya Bachhuber All I have to say is: Far Cry. Innovation and smooth polished gameplay without repitition.

[@TOMMYDACOMMIE]

4:25 They only cared about numbers and not the games? Kind of sounds like how more people are concerned with the sales of a system nowadays other then the games.

[@hoangphu]

and which has more pixels ie. 1080p vs 720p. no games.

[@Kapenguin448]

Not without reason, of course. There's a reason why that mentality has stuck around since the beginning.

[@leonlegend]

Ya don't say?

[@TheRevanchist9000]

The bit wars are still ongoing, but now it's called the framerate wars or the resolution wars.

[@HaxHaunter]

+The Revanchist ugh... when will people start to put more priority into gameplay than graphics? more than 30 years and people still prefer shiny graphics over gameplay (i know graphics are necessary but are not top priority.)

[@blyjd91]

+HackerHaunter03 It all depends on the game really. Some games need graphics more than others. But I agree. Companies favor graphics before gameplay now more than ever.

[@TheMGMfan]

The Revanchist I can understand people complaining about framerate if it’s because it’s not good enough for a certain game. I would hate if a hack and slash game wasn’t 60 FPS, but only because you absolutely _need_ to have that high of a framerate for a game in that genre because of how fast-paced and action packed those games are. In my opinion, while going above and beyond is always great, all that should really matter for framerate is if it allows the game to be playable. If a game can run well at 30 FPS, I’m perfectly fine with 30 FPS. I rarely even notice the difference between 30 and 60, which is ironic given that 60 is twice as much as 30.

[@DW-nb2zc]

@@HaxHaunter I'd ask this same question but replace with movies

[@rawrimsobig]

The music that kicked in when the Jaguar commentary started... Epic. Had me sitting here like a bobblehead. Almost pinched a nerve in my neck 😂

[@snapbackwill]

Do you know what music is associated with that segment? I assume it's a Jaguar game, but I can't find it anywhere!

[@zephyfoxy]

The bits refers to the console's CPU architecture. It's not that different from today's PCs which either have 32-bit or 64-bit CPUs and operating systems. More bits means more data throughput, and more complex programming/colors.

[@zephyfoxy]

Hz means "times per second" essentially. MHz is mega hertz, or million times per second, and GHz are Giga hertz, or billion times per second. That means, for example, a processor running at say, 1.5GHz is performing 1.5 billion "clock cycles" per second, and in each clock cycle, the cpu is performing a single instruction.

[@zephyfoxy]

***** Exactly. Although with most PCs these days, speed isn't everything. An 8 core cpu running at 3GHz could do more work than a 4 core running at 3.5GHz

[@zephyfoxy]

***** There are some really good vids here on youtube that explain it better than I can.

[@antoniocesarscartezzini]

WRONG!, real captain here, the bits just tell how much data every set of instruction can have,the architeture is how the cpu interprets the code, for instance. on a intel device, i would have a processor with AMD64/IA64 Instruction set (being 64bits) but with the haxwell architeture and have an AMD device with also AMD64/IA64 Instructions sets but with the Bulldozer architeture.the bits just tell how much data, every comand sent to and from the processor can have. In fact because of the difference between architetures, you can have a processor being dual core better than a quadcore processor, because the way the arc interprets / processesthe comands is more optimized for that instruction set / phisical hardware. And instruction sets are just a list of comands that the processor can interpret and process. thats why a binary x86 application cant be run on a ARMV7/8 devices (ARM is the mainstream mobile arch now), because the processor would not know what to do.

[@ThatDubstepGuy1996]

***** He is just being a troll!

[@DrDK144]

The designers of the console were jagging off!

[@TonyGarciaxProdigy1994]

lol, good one

[@guardian08527]

Talk about statements that have aged badly. I distinctly remember the gamer geeks in one of my junior high classes championing the Jaguar as the pinnacle of video gaming.

[@lionocyborg6030]

For those who don't know, bits mean how big a single binary number is. 8bit is 1 byte, 16bit is 2, and so on. All it means in regards to consoles and computers is how many bits the CPU can handle at a time. The FC/FDS CPU could only support one byte, though the games themselves on floppy disk and possibly cartridge could be measured in kilobytes, more so for disks.

[@Western.Confrence]

Your music selection for the videos are amazing. Especially this one. Once I heard that double dragon/battle-toads theme my childhood was relived ❤️

[@adewilson132]

I like the DOOM music at 7:23

[@Sandwich420]

I nearly bought one... this and a 3DO. I was like 12 and talked myself out of it.

[@louistournas120]

If only you could go into the past and tell yourself to buy it and keep it in the box new.

[@cygnusprime6728]

Apparently your subconscious is smarter than you. Keep listening to it lol.

[@prestongregory686]

I had both. The 3DO Dolby surround Soccer was pretty good. I still have the jaguar. The 3DO stopped working, but the jaguar still works. Alien vs Predator was the only game worth playing.

[@xm_heecka.laddder.job_mx5962]

lol i doubt you were that smart at that age lol

[@hellomario8708]

you should've bought both of them.

[@bat3m3n24]

Message to all, dont let this mans history die please

[@chango_fett]

the music 5:06 is Battletoads double dragon - Main Theme (sega genesis version)

[@NVUSAttitude]

You dont need good graphics to have fun, you need fun to have fun, with that said, the graphics dont need to be the best, it needs to be visually appealing, i will say that much

[@sidneyshaw1608]

7:28 lol I'm playing doom eternal and thought the classic doom music started playing in game but it's this video.... strange @____@

[@wmurray003]

"Check in for part two and we'll play some JaaaAAAAG!"

[@Fomula1Fan]

Damn! Big respect James! What a great Video quality! Even in todays youtube world, this old videos mostly tops the videos from nowdays. Its just nice to watch!

[@jonnyronnyguy]

Battletoads and DOOM background music during the video, what a combination of 2 of my most favourite game tracks.

[@trainboy7]

what was that music bit around 2:05 ?

[@MewTimesTwo]

Battletoads.

[@trainboy7]

thanks, for snes?

[@MewTimesTwo]

NES.

[@trainboy7]

MyNameIsChris okay, thanks ^_^

[@SilhouetteZeta]

I could have swore when I hit ''show replies'' I was gonna see a certain something else. Fuck. I've already jinxed it

[@BurnSchulz]

"People begin caring more about graphics and less about the actual gameplay!" With this truth said, i hate todays videogame community. I dont care about the graphics if the Gameplay is good, but sadly 99% of the players dont shut up about their "superior" Systems or PC when it comes to this. For example i hate the new Star Wars Battlefront execution. It comes way too expensive (with massive DLC planned right from the start and shit) and has too less to offer "BUT HURR DURR THE GRAFIX ARE AWESOME!" "DID YOU SEE THE GRAFIX?!" "DO YOU EVEN GRAFIX BRO?!" yea fuck off..

[@gabrokkerhun]

+BurnSchulz You're talking about Battlefield 5 right? They literally had to bring it up in an interview that it's not gonna be like Battlefield and all that, but now that it's out, just look at wtf is it. Certainly not a Star Wars Battlefront.

[@Spootiful]

+BurnSchulz Probably why Good Old Games is so popular among the older gamers, those who grew up with great games from several eras: the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s.

[@BurnSchulz]

A Spootiful Mind I won an auction for a good copy (with package and manual) of Zombies Ate My Neighbours yesterday. Can wait to play it again. 90s were a great era for Games. I often play old games.

[@Jester_Jingles]

Shovel knight.

[@yagokain4189]

+BurnSchulz dont forget about fps. 30 fps game are unplayable they are piece of shits you cant play with 30 fps hurr durr pc master race 60 fps. (it was sarcasm ofc)

[@UBvtuber]

Also 7:45 so basically... the Jaguar was built different.