ATC SENDS PLANES TOWARDS EACH OTHER | "Can you use your reverses?"

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@VASAviation
@VASAviation 3 жыл бұрын
Oops, someone messed up!
@chrisschack9716
@chrisschack9716 3 жыл бұрын
Golden towbar!
@garrisonbrumblay9137
@garrisonbrumblay9137 3 жыл бұрын
Someone said something wrong
@ArthurSuen91
@ArthurSuen91 3 жыл бұрын
bruh.
@leopolddankic3840
@leopolddankic3840 3 жыл бұрын
Could you du the Belarus grounding
@galdavonalgerri2101
@galdavonalgerri2101 3 жыл бұрын
Does this mean one ground controller needs a new job oder does he just need to attend some training course?
@Anonarchist
@Anonarchist 3 жыл бұрын
"theres absolutely no one behind you" says the guy who told you there'd be no one in front of you.
@naomiali1706
@naomiali1706 3 жыл бұрын
And use of “absolutely” is him being not embarrassed, but pissed that this happened, so he’s using slight tone because he wants them to miraculously move and fix his problem.
@josesmith9179
@josesmith9179 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely funny comment. 🤣👍
@alialiyevv
@alialiyevv 3 жыл бұрын
Panik
@mlee6050
@mlee6050 3 жыл бұрын
true but at least this ATC did better than others where planes crash on runway
@37thousand
@37thousand 3 жыл бұрын
😹😹😹
@internetw4nk3r74
@internetw4nk3r74 3 жыл бұрын
Pilot: i need a tug ATC: i need a hug
@myspinrecord3279
@myspinrecord3279 3 жыл бұрын
Most underrated comment. 😆😆😆
@novaflareproductions1639
@novaflareproductions1639 3 жыл бұрын
And I ordered a mug.
@neruba2173
@neruba2173 3 жыл бұрын
And everyone got a thug.
@etherealrose2139
@etherealrose2139 3 жыл бұрын
ATC distractrd during original instructions: getting a tug.
@notabirb8205
@notabirb8205 3 жыл бұрын
Someone about to pull the plug
@GemmaLB
@GemmaLB 3 жыл бұрын
Pilot says to the ATC 'I've got a number for you to copy'
@00BillyTorontoBill
@00BillyTorontoBill 3 жыл бұрын
2 pilots...says...
@buckbuchanan5849
@buckbuchanan5849 3 жыл бұрын
Best comment yet
@NochEinKamel
@NochEinKamel 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the "possible controller deviation"
@GemmaLB
@GemmaLB 3 жыл бұрын
@@buckbuchanan5849 Thanks :)
@GemmaLB
@GemmaLB 3 жыл бұрын
@@NochEinKamel Yep!
@alexroselle
@alexroselle 3 жыл бұрын
Delta pilot: I can't taxi, there's a plane in my way Envoy pilot: I can't taxi either, there's a plane in my way too Southwest pilot: I'm ready to go anytime, I'll even take off from the taxiway if that would help
@LtRiot
@LtRiot 3 жыл бұрын
$20 says SW taxied by the standoff at C172 rotation speed
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 2 жыл бұрын
I see we are both in the same algorithm track.
@lobsters12111
@lobsters12111 2 жыл бұрын
I love this. Used to watch planes a lot at Portland intl and it was always fun to see how fast the Southwest Airlines pilots would go on the ground
@imviciously
@imviciously 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha lmao
@handlesarecringe957
@handlesarecringe957 2 жыл бұрын
"Ladies and gentlemen if you look to your right we have a bit of a showdown going on"
@Hammm537
@Hammm537 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone telling Envoy he had plenty of room to make the turn until finally the ops vehicle tells him he doesn’t have enough room, good on them for sticking up for themselves and not doing something they weren’t comfortable with
@cmotdibbler4454
@cmotdibbler4454 3 жыл бұрын
The controller is all "I get could get a bus through that gap" Unfortunately the pilot had to get an aircraft through it.
@ishanagrawal753
@ishanagrawal753 3 жыл бұрын
@@cmotdibbler4454 there's a difference between bus and airbus...
@FrozenHaxor
@FrozenHaxor 2 жыл бұрын
@@ishanagrawal753 That wasn't an airbus either.
@tendyedits1272
@tendyedits1272 2 жыл бұрын
He literally said there’s too much room to go backwards what in the world does that mean lol
@apastafarian5051
@apastafarian5051 2 жыл бұрын
I can't like it's 420
@allanhendricks1597
@allanhendricks1597 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised with all the other ideas that ATC didn’t recommend all the passengers get out and push
@soupfork2105
@soupfork2105 3 жыл бұрын
If it was RyanAir, they would've made them push to save time, then charged a "passenger interaction surcharge" and a "reboarding fee"
@Cissy2cute
@Cissy2cute 3 жыл бұрын
Should have called this guy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIbNfYCMarJnmrs
@Strahan740i
@Strahan740i 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericbosken3114 The article says it was technicians and employees, not passengers. Having passengers do it would be problematic as they'd have to bring out one of those stair modules - you can't just hop out the door on a jet like that, you'd likely break a leg or something falling that far to the pavement.
@ericbosken3114
@ericbosken3114 3 жыл бұрын
@@Strahan740i the rumor was that they had used those roller stairs (most smaller airports here do not have jet bridges)
@Strahan740i
@Strahan740i 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericbosken3114 Ehhh the statement from detik itself said it was employees, that and look at the pic - I doubt many passengers travel in safety vests ;)
@NedAndre
@NedAndre 3 жыл бұрын
You could hear him die a little inside at 40 seconds
@Casi3D
@Casi3D 3 жыл бұрын
It was at this moment he knew, he f'd up.
@BLACKMONGOOSE13
@BLACKMONGOOSE13 3 жыл бұрын
Surely you can't be serious.....
@Notimp0rtant523
@Notimp0rtant523 3 жыл бұрын
He really just said “I’m sorry, just standby”
@pistonburner6448
@pistonburner6448 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't die inside as much as those passengers having to wait around and possibly miss their connecting flights...
@NenadKralj
@NenadKralj 3 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly genuinely in sorry for that flight controller 😅 but we got a clear standoff 😎 well done 😎
@kosmamoczek
@kosmamoczek 3 жыл бұрын
Respect for the pilots for not risking a tight turn that could cause even more trouble and/or damage. At such an important position being able to say "no" firmly yet calmly is an essential skill.
@mateusbmedeiros
@mateusbmedeiros 3 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing. Even after the first "no", they then got back with "they're advising that there's plenty of room", and the pilot stood their ground. Some minutes later when the vehicle got there they confirmed the pilot's perception of no room for a right turn.
@MillionFoul
@MillionFoul 3 жыл бұрын
@@mateusbmedeiros I always tell pilots I marshalled that if they feel uncomfortable and need a wing checked to stop and make me check it, it's way better to waste twenty seconds of my time than to take the nose off another airplane of get stuck in the dirt.
@k.pacificnw02134
@k.pacificnw02134 3 жыл бұрын
Totally what I thought. Don't give in to peer pressure.
@janiselmeris5705
@janiselmeris5705 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the idea to use the reverse thrust to go back and then turn right?
@nerysghemor5781
@nerysghemor5781 3 жыл бұрын
@@mateusbmedeiros Like I said in another comment it’s a good thing because the tower’s perception was not exactly great that day!!! XD
@cchilli6442
@cchilli6442 3 жыл бұрын
I can respect when ATC catches himself at 3:32 and clarifies when he realizes his choice of words could have been misinterpreted
@JimYeats
@JimYeats 3 жыл бұрын
Haha yep.
@Nodnarb69
@Nodnarb69 3 жыл бұрын
Even I at first thought he was being sassy. Funny how sometimes things come out differently than they’re intended to.
@Ninkira
@Ninkira 3 жыл бұрын
he put his reverses on that real fast hahaha
@suzukirider9030
@suzukirider9030 3 жыл бұрын
I think ATC was hoping one of them would just go ahead and use reverse. But both pilots were reluctant to do that. An An-124 pilot would've been like: "Well I can just taxi around them if you don't mind me messing up your lawn a bit".
@dave-yj9mc
@dave-yj9mc 3 жыл бұрын
@@suzukirider9030 LOL!
@thomasvlaskampiii6850
@thomasvlaskampiii6850 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect example of an honest mistake. All it cost was time, a bit of fuel, and some humble humiliation. No one got mad. No one yelled. Good way to handle the situation
@SuperMonkei
@SuperMonkei 3 жыл бұрын
Humanity prevails.
@Trevor-gu8bb
@Trevor-gu8bb 3 жыл бұрын
The pilots are getting paid by the hour so they're in no rush 😁
@thomasvlaskampiii6850
@thomasvlaskampiii6850 3 жыл бұрын
@@Trevor-gu8bb There's no rush due to pay. But, I've seen several videos where something more trivial than this happens and either the pilot or atc goes ape. There's no need for it. If no one died, just deal with it and move on
@PrivateMarcus
@PrivateMarcus 3 жыл бұрын
But it can still cost in missed connections and other penalties
@thomasvlaskampiii6850
@thomasvlaskampiii6850 3 жыл бұрын
@@PrivateMarcus I'll take financial loss over loss of life or loss of cool any day
@oldRighty1
@oldRighty1 3 жыл бұрын
This is Delta Tug 2's moment to shine.
@GC-qe8vc
@GC-qe8vc 3 жыл бұрын
Rumor has it that just before retiring, Kennedy Steve cleared Delta Tug 2 to reposition all the way to Cincinnati!
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 3 жыл бұрын
@@GC-qe8vc lmfao hahahaha
@briand.411
@briand.411 3 жыл бұрын
That's rich, and Steve's been retired just long enough it sailed past a few
@cesarqueti
@cesarqueti 3 жыл бұрын
I can hear Kennedy Steve talking to a coffee cup saying a pretty grabbed DELTA TUG TWO !
@DasHauss
@DasHauss 3 жыл бұрын
You are my hero right here :))
@1972challenger
@1972challenger 3 жыл бұрын
The animation is similar to when you run into your ex girlfriend at the bar.
@alexanderhadjikrastev4023
@alexanderhadjikrastev4023 3 жыл бұрын
And you need a friend to pull you out if the situation (the tug)
@RS-cw3oy
@RS-cw3oy 3 жыл бұрын
Made more awkward by the guy on the roof, watching with binoculars, repeating "standby" into a megaphone
@JoshGratton
@JoshGratton 3 жыл бұрын
lol.. best comment ever.
@patrickinottawa27
@patrickinottawa27 3 жыл бұрын
I assume the ex was with the guy with the bigger cockpit.
@1972challenger
@1972challenger 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickinottawa27 when you find out your girl been talking to ATC when you're out of town...
@HWVISP89
@HWVISP89 3 жыл бұрын
This controller had become the proud recipient of the famous Golden Towbar Award!
@othername1000
@othername1000 3 жыл бұрын
wow, it's real
@sampathsris
@sampathsris 3 жыл бұрын
To his head, if those pilots are nearby.
@Aeropunk08
@Aeropunk08 3 жыл бұрын
Happens roughly once or twice a year at most major airports from talking to my ATC friends. Kind of like the pilots doing their pre-flight cabin introduction over ground radio.
@willm1019
@willm1019 3 жыл бұрын
“No more games of chicken with the planes today John” -his coworkers everyday for the rest of his career
@stanislavkostarnov2157
@stanislavkostarnov2157 3 жыл бұрын
hopefully its not: "no more planes for you... its all chickens my boy!"
@FallCreekDude14
@FallCreekDude14 3 жыл бұрын
Working Ops at CVG last year I can tell you this controller is awesome and was always a great time to chat with but, even the best of us make mistakes.
@jayschafer1760
@jayschafer1760 3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear that this guy has a good reputation. Hope this won't hurt his career too much; if this is the worst mistake he makes all year, he'll be doing well in my book.
@morganghetti
@morganghetti 3 жыл бұрын
@@jayschafer1760 it won't hurt his career at all. Everyone makes mistakes. Any controller or pilot that says they don't is a liar.
@hxhdfjifzirstc894
@hxhdfjifzirstc894 3 жыл бұрын
That's good, because this was some major cringe.
@abandonedaccount123
@abandonedaccount123 2 жыл бұрын
did he keep his job?
@MrSuperawesome5000
@MrSuperawesome5000 Жыл бұрын
@@jayschafer1760 Yeah not a major mistake. For sure they'll sit down and talk about a preventative action plan but the punitive action will probably come in the form or being the butt of some jokes for a bit.
@458DESTRO
@458DESTRO 3 жыл бұрын
When the guy said “I don’t know what your waiting on” then immediately starts fumbling for a semblance of an apology because he realized how it sounded. That’s happened to me a couple times.
@wildgurgs3614
@wildgurgs3614 3 жыл бұрын
When you say something aloud and immediately realize what you just said is probably the worst way to phrase it
@vanessaruiz4705
@vanessaruiz4705 3 жыл бұрын
that was a bit WTF kind of moment.
@bubakawara
@bubakawara 3 жыл бұрын
Much better than when you realize an hour later.
@MarcDufresneosorusrex
@MarcDufresneosorusrex 3 жыл бұрын
how would it be mis-interpreted .. sorry .. and thanks🤥 okay i think another comment gave me the answer.. (waiting on the vehicle underneath him?)
@gavpowell1981
@gavpowell1981 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcDufresneosorusrex Because it sounded like he was saying "Why aren't you doing anything?" when what he meant was "Is everything ok? You haven't started moving yet..."
@flyerdon3116
@flyerdon3116 3 жыл бұрын
That really was a “taxiway tango”.
@roku_nine
@roku_nine 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, underrated
@HHopebringer
@HHopebringer 3 жыл бұрын
All they needed was an Air Canada flight having to go-around after trying to land on the taxiway, having set their radios to the wrong frequency so they couldn't acknowledge ATC 😂😂😂
@alexstrazza4068
@alexstrazza4068 3 жыл бұрын
*Both planes looking right at each other with nowhere else to go* "Well this is awkward!! We have reached an impasse" lol
@Belchmaster41
@Belchmaster41 2 жыл бұрын
yep...or a stand-off between 2 different planes
@nerysghemor5781
@nerysghemor5781 3 жыл бұрын
I love how nobody is trusting the tower to know if they have enough room, after this!!! XD
@NicolaW72
@NicolaW72 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. :-)
@janiselmeris5705
@janiselmeris5705 3 жыл бұрын
I think the tower talked about the plane having room to go back, not to turn right from the position it was in.
@nerysghemor5781
@nerysghemor5781 3 жыл бұрын
@@janiselmeris5705 Either way, no one was trusting the tower to know if they could do it!! 🤣 BTW, are you from Lithuania or Latvia?
@janiselmeris5705
@janiselmeris5705 3 жыл бұрын
@@nerysghemor5781 Well, that's understandable, yes. :) Latvia.
@nerysghemor5781
@nerysghemor5781 3 жыл бұрын
@@janiselmeris5705 Cool, looks like my “language sense” is working well! XD But seriously, do be careful, with all that crazy stuff happening across the border in Belarus!
@jonathankleinow2073
@jonathankleinow2073 3 жыл бұрын
So the Delta tug thinks they can get out there faster than the Envoy tug, huh? Sounds like a good ol' fashioned tug-off to me! Wait...
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 3 жыл бұрын
The Delta plane, depending on the model, might be able to get a tug underneath the plane, or around it without impacting the wings. It’s mainline.
@-Osiris-
@-Osiris- 3 жыл бұрын
@@AEMoreira81 Congratulations, you've missed the joke
@darkobiwan
@darkobiwan 3 жыл бұрын
PHRASING!
@RustyorBroken
@RustyorBroken 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say it was a tug of war.
@ijustdocomments6777
@ijustdocomments6777 3 жыл бұрын
Aaand it's at 69 likes, not gonna touch that.
@ursusss
@ursusss 3 жыл бұрын
If you can get the atc discussion and interception with the Ryanair flight highjacked to Minsk, you truly are the best!
@mavoledo86
@mavoledo86 3 жыл бұрын
came here to ask for that as well
@BLACKMONGOOSE13
@BLACKMONGOOSE13 3 жыл бұрын
That would be good....
@e.l.norton
@e.l.norton 3 жыл бұрын
Well, technically it's not a "hijacking". Not with a fighter escort. It needs a new term.
@LeifNelandDk
@LeifNelandDk 3 жыл бұрын
@@e.l.norton kidnapping?
@dougaltolan3017
@dougaltolan3017 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeifNelandDk Extreme "interpretation" of ICAO 3bis (b), for full details ask one Mr Assange!
@mamoruisamu1
@mamoruisamu1 3 жыл бұрын
Too many great lines come to mind: “It takes two to Tango” “My tug is faster than your tug”
@Techy111
@Techy111 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god you never said "tug me off" 😁
@JonReams
@JonReams 3 жыл бұрын
I tend not to boast. about my fast tug
@burtonrider316
@burtonrider316 3 жыл бұрын
@@Techy111 a wasted opportunity for some comedy on the radio :(
@cmotdibbler4454
@cmotdibbler4454 3 жыл бұрын
Fortunately it wasn't Delta tug 2 as he is still waiting for clearance.
@WV-mx3dr
@WV-mx3dr 3 жыл бұрын
Good job on the pilots for saying "NO" and standing their ground when the controller was like "Nah man you got this just try a 180"
@Belchmaster41
@Belchmaster41 2 жыл бұрын
other risk would have been crash right into each other
@unr3alGaming
@unr3alGaming Жыл бұрын
They certainly know the aircraft's they're rated for better than the controller does. Plus those things are expensive. You clip a wing, you might lose your job, and I'm sure they'd all like to stay employed.
@skyvenrazgriz8226
@skyvenrazgriz8226 3 жыл бұрын
Aww, i was looking forward to the thrust reversers... big air craft goes: beep beep beepp
@Smiley1701
@Smiley1701 3 жыл бұрын
C-17s do it, but they have a loadmaster watching out the back for them
@bahenbihen
@bahenbihen 3 жыл бұрын
They realized company wouldn't be too happy with that little maneuver lol
@deltafox757
@deltafox757 3 жыл бұрын
Yea probably not safe because FOD from the ground or compressor stall due to low speed
@Boss_Tanaka
@Boss_Tanaka 3 жыл бұрын
😅😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@gregarious119
@gregarious119 3 жыл бұрын
Got to do that on a NWA DC9 once. Icy morning in AZO and the tug couldn't get traction on the ramp. Powered pushback and were good to go.
@jordansean18
@jordansean18 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the thumbnail said "Will need a hug..." lol
@Starwindfey
@Starwindfey 3 жыл бұрын
ATC will after this one lol!
@SpearFisher85
@SpearFisher85 3 жыл бұрын
So funny me too!
@DannyPimienta
@DannyPimienta 3 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@GC-qe8vc
@GC-qe8vc 3 жыл бұрын
Well, a tug gives a hug to an aircraft's nose wheel, is supportive and takes it into places it can't go on its own...
@cymbala6208
@cymbala6208 3 жыл бұрын
That's what we're all thinking of first during this pandemic... 😅
@aisle9
@aisle9 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to be the Envoy pilot if he'd fired up the reversers, ingested FOD and wrecked an engine trying to bail ATC out.
@dsetHardin
@dsetHardin 3 жыл бұрын
I too was wondering about that. I wonder if he actually hit the RT or if he thought about it and said "this is ATC's problem, not mine" and pretended to hit them.
@catguy00
@catguy00 3 жыл бұрын
For those of us with little to no knowledge about aviation can you explain the potential damage that could be caused by reversing?
@JuanAdam12
@JuanAdam12 3 жыл бұрын
@@catguy00 Thrust reverse redirects the normal thrust forward instead of rearward, but that's not the issue. The engine is still sucking in tons of air from in front of the plane, and everything on the ground in front of the plane, into the engine. Reverse thrust is used on landing on a "clean" runway to help slow the airplane (in addition to brakes and lift-spoiling devices), but using reverse thrust is discontinued at (typically) 60 knots--about the time the airplane is ready to exit the runway onto a taxiway. TL;DR--using enough reverse thrust to move a loaded airplane backwards on a taxiway is a needlessly dumb thing to do--especially when your need for doing so isn't your fault, or your reasons for doing so is to be "super helpful."
@JuanAdam12
@JuanAdam12 3 жыл бұрын
Boy Scout Regional pilot trying to help out mainline Delta crew--who would never return the favor, let alone return a wave or a friendly nod in the terminal. Reverse on a taxiway: dumb, dumb, dumb offer to make.
@jacquesmit502
@jacquesmit502 3 жыл бұрын
@@catguy00 to oversimplify Adams answer: The thrust of the engine is quite powerful and can kick up rocks and stuff. When using reversers those rocks and stuff are being pushed forward passed the engine intake where it can be sucked into the engine
@davidsp5936
@davidsp5936 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to everyone for reacting calmly and professionally. No name calling. No finger-pointing. No complaining.
@kylenielsen5341
@kylenielsen5341 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't have room to turn." "Ops says you do." "Okay send ops out to eyeball it for us so we can make the turn." Ops guy on-site: "He doesn't have room to turn."
@nolonger1410
@nolonger1410 3 жыл бұрын
"possible controller deviation imma need you to copy a number down whenever you're ready"
@christophercollins868
@christophercollins868 3 жыл бұрын
And once again, despite the screw up and back and forth, I am blown away by the calmness and proffesionalism of pilots and controllers. The rest of the working world could take a lot of good notes from the aviation industry.
@christophercollins868
@christophercollins868 3 жыл бұрын
On a side note, could have saved a lot of time if they sent a wing walker WITH the tug.
@slyfoxyandalifesaver
@slyfoxyandalifesaver 3 жыл бұрын
Awwwwww, you can hear the controller dying inside. That poor soul. That is such an embarrassing occurrence!
@jdscavella
@jdscavella 3 жыл бұрын
"Got a stand off at T" 😂
@HernandezAlaska
@HernandezAlaska 3 жыл бұрын
I lost my shit at that comment lmaooo
@jessicapope6977
@jessicapope6977 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Victor, I was curious if you are going to do a video of what occurred with the Ryanair flight that was forced to land in Belarus? The ATC has got to be interesting and shocking!! Thank you!
@pistonburner6448
@pistonburner6448 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and if there's any way to get internal phone conversations from Ryanair too... (Irish people sound funny anyway, but imagine the language they're using in those phone conversations when they heard what happened! I naturally mean when they heard that they had to waste all that extra fuel...)
@aronakbiyikian2577
@aronakbiyikian2577 3 жыл бұрын
Seconding this. It's probably the most significant aviation incident right now, despite it being a political thing.
@jessicapope6977
@jessicapope6977 3 жыл бұрын
@@aronakbiyikian2577 agree completely!!! Thank you for seconding this!
@aronakbiyikian2577
@aronakbiyikian2577 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessicapope6977 ;) any time
@jason_35
@jason_35 3 жыл бұрын
I'm also waiting for this
@Cissy2cute
@Cissy2cute 3 жыл бұрын
Ten hours later......Seriously, controller knew he did wrong but still held it together to try and get this fixed. We're all human and make mistakes. I know that I could never be an ATC. I think ATC was judged to be the most stressful job.
@freddy4672
@freddy4672 3 жыл бұрын
true that
@pistonburner6448
@pistonburner6448 3 жыл бұрын
"I think ATC was judged to be the most stressful job." Well, then there's the guy whose job it is to be Joe "Listen, fat" Biden's teleprompter operator.
@ClosestToTheSun
@ClosestToTheSun 3 жыл бұрын
@@pistonburner6448 BDS
@Maxdubi
@Maxdubi 3 жыл бұрын
@@ClosestToTheSun that doesn’t work here. You can’t just steal republicans saying, I mean that’s what you democrats do best, steal, but this won’t fly here. Anyways Biden is quite literally deranged.
@ClosestToTheSun
@ClosestToTheSun 3 жыл бұрын
@@Maxdubi ok dork
@dmans
@dmans 3 жыл бұрын
Pilot: Got a standoff at Tango. Tower: Nope, clear to taxi, first one that chickens out loses ramp clearance.
@Belchmaster41
@Belchmaster41 2 жыл бұрын
it's hard to taxi until a tug comes for the plane and get it out of the way
@Aran2323
@Aran2323 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that the controller asked them about thrust reversers. As I understand it, many jets and airlines have policies/procedures that preclude them from using reversers below a certain speed (e.g. anything other than slowing down after landing) due to the risks of debris getting sucked into the engines.
@thevinceberry
@thevinceberry 2 жыл бұрын
It use a lot of gas to reverse a plane from a standstill,
@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549
@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 2 жыл бұрын
If you ask the question then you find out if it’s an option or not.
@jacobb791
@jacobb791 2 жыл бұрын
The controller doesn't care the only people who get in trouble would be the pilots but yea They aren't allowed to use the reversers
@louf7178
@louf7178 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just watching videos, but I did see a vortex coming into an engine from the pavement once - debris looks very possible.
@One_Shot_Garage
@One_Shot_Garage 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to mention that as well. Definitely not a great idea to use reverse thrust for slow speed maneuvering. It is especially an issue for wing mounted engines. I am assuming Envoy was a 175.
@morganghetti
@morganghetti 3 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked at how well those pilots took it. Everyone screws up at some point. Any controller or pilot claiming they never make mistakes isn't being honest.
@omma-llama7860
@omma-llama7860 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda feel bad for that controller. He won't live that down for a while.
@htown513
@htown513 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see my picture made it! Glad I was there to see this happen!
@Eastbirds_Lee
@Eastbirds_Lee 3 жыл бұрын
This was the most entertaining non-movement video ive ever seen. Tarantino-style stand off dialogue.
@Dan007UT
@Dan007UT 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine they sent out a tug right when Delta asked lol
@dldave1978
@dldave1978 3 жыл бұрын
Once in a while, we all mess up. Fairly quick resolution. Shit happens. Life goes on.
@rosem7568
@rosem7568 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I like your perception of things. Your kinda remind me of James Asquith YT videos...check him out...I am certain you will enjoy his videos.
@abandonedaccount123
@abandonedaccount123 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosem7568 stop self promoting your main channel lol
@calilyn1026
@calilyn1026 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing the little plane's pilot was confident enough to tell the tower that he was not comfortable moving w/o people on the ground despite ATCs reassurance that everything is clear, when in reality the guy on the ground confirmed there is no space.
@arnoldsherrill6305
@arnoldsherrill6305 3 жыл бұрын
In my dreams I'm hearing the Kennedy Steve version of this and rolling on the floor from laughter
@eboracum2012
@eboracum2012 3 жыл бұрын
That would be such a gift to the world, wouldn't it? Worthy of innumerable replays🤗
@joc6870
@joc6870 3 жыл бұрын
At 3:32 the ground controller had a bit of attitude and on his next sentence he stutters because he realized that he was a bit rude 😂
@thetalesofdaneandco
@thetalesofdaneandco 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@rubenvillanueva8635
@rubenvillanueva8635 3 жыл бұрын
I believe he just wants this "nightmare" to go away!, a highly embarrassing moment that will be the butt end joke, for many coffee room days to come!
@larryscott3982
@larryscott3982 3 жыл бұрын
@@rubenvillanueva8635 Well, probably for nights to come. He’s grave yard shift for a long time coming.
@TonboIV
@TonboIV 3 жыл бұрын
From the way he was talking, I think he was genuinely asking what they were waiting for, but then realized it could sound sort of sarcastic and rude.
@Smiley1701
@Smiley1701 3 жыл бұрын
@@TonboIV Yeah you could hear the panic in his next transmission as he realized how it sounded compared to what he meant
@hack1n8r
@hack1n8r 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes!! Someone in Ground had a brain-fart... The controller must have felt horrible.... excellent professionalism by the pilots.
@rosem7568
@rosem7568 3 жыл бұрын
My exact thoughts as well. If you found this video interesting, I bet you will enjoy James Asquith YT videos as I did. Check him out!
@Tommyr44
@Tommyr44 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao I work on the ramp here that would have been hilarious to see if I was there.
@sfpup87
@sfpup87 3 жыл бұрын
DHL or city?
@Rockjael2
@Rockjael2 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao no you're not, you cook meth for a living.
@Tommyr44
@Tommyr44 3 жыл бұрын
@@sfpup87 I used to work at the main airport now I work at DHL.
@sfpup87
@sfpup87 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tommyr44 nice bro if you’re working ramp tower you I talk
@alexrex20
@alexrex20 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rockjael2 wrong. His physical body cooked meth but now we're talking to his spirit
@timothysmith7080
@timothysmith7080 3 жыл бұрын
This could have been prevented if the engines had the ability to rotate 90 degrees and allow for a vertical take off.
@すどにむ
@すどにむ 3 жыл бұрын
"I can verify that from the tower" yeah most reassuring...
@holgerschmidt6740
@holgerschmidt6740 3 жыл бұрын
Trust me, I know what I am doing...
@Notimp0rtant523
@Notimp0rtant523 3 жыл бұрын
Fun facts about Greater Cincinnati International Airport: 1) It’s not even in Ohio, let alone Cincinnati. It’s initialism CVG comes from Covington, Kentucky, which is approximately five miles east-northeast of the airport. If named today, it’s abbreviation would like be based off of the city of Hebron - possibly HEB, although that sign is taken by a regional airport in Burma. 2) It is run by the Kenton County Airport Board, even though the airport lies entirely with Boone County (does border Kenton County) 3) CVG is DHL’s largest cargo hub globally. 4) Canadian folk singer Stan Rogers died in a cabin fire incident which required his plane land at CVG. Though the majority of passengers died, some passengers and all crew survived. 5) Every time I fly through CVG it takes no more than thirty minutes from the time I walk through the door until my butt is in my seat by my gate. Incredibly smooth operation.
@jasontuck-smith3896
@jasontuck-smith3896 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell the controller felt bad and realised he messed up. I'm glad the pilots didn't give him a hard time.
@blubaughmr
@blubaughmr 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the '90's, Northwest's (now part of Delta) standard pushback from the gate in Memphis was thrust reversers. I think I also saw them do that in Minneapolis as well, but I'm not sure.
@Belchmaster41
@Belchmaster41 2 жыл бұрын
I think the policy is stop your pushback until the other plane departs
@TonyP9279
@TonyP9279 2 жыл бұрын
Delta used to do powered pushbacks from the gate when they were flying the MD88s. The plane has tail-mounted engines so they were higher off the ground and used eyelid-style reversers which seem to reverse almost all of the thrust from the engines. Even then, I think they only did this when they were parked at the end gates which have more space around them.
@wjatube
@wjatube 3 жыл бұрын
Gnd should've commissioned the tug at the very first moment. Sending a wing-walker was a waste of time.
@RobertSzasz
@RobertSzasz 3 жыл бұрын
I think they did. And were waiting to hear back while exploring other options.
@EdOeuna
@EdOeuna 3 жыл бұрын
Or a wing walker in a tug.
@BlackBird-nn2yc
@BlackBird-nn2yc 3 жыл бұрын
Normally traffic control sounds so robot like, but the moment the guy messed up it felt so relatable
@lukaskaktus1005
@lukaskaktus1005 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the last AFP95 video lol
@yuuki-yuuki
@yuuki-yuuki 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@alexejfrohlich5869
@alexejfrohlich5869 3 жыл бұрын
damn, just imagie APF95 would've been a commenting ATC on this: "yeah... to all planes... stand-off at tango! reverse thrusters ready, but who ever is rolling backwards first is a loser! ... ok, now delta is just leaving the taxiway over the grass directly on the runway ... yeah, delta just collided with a hot air balloon making mach 2 five feet over ground ... we have a major accident, pilots in the air advised to land only on the last 3rd of the runway"
@freedomfalcon
@freedomfalcon 3 жыл бұрын
I see we have men of culture in here.
@CapStar362
@CapStar362 3 жыл бұрын
i love these peaceful co-op solutions. this is awesome
@vincemck2002
@vincemck2002 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see how both pilots co-operated so well and did not pour scorn on the controller for making a blunder.....well done
@EoRdE6
@EoRdE6 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear the pilot announcement to the passengers about this one...
@CyberDashie
@CyberDashie 3 жыл бұрын
Just noticed at 2:58 CVG GND says "any way shape or form" but the caption says "any ways you perform." First time noticing a slight error for you, which is impressive as often as you wind up posting! Much respect VASA. 🤘🏻
@forceinfinity
@forceinfinity 3 жыл бұрын
0:40 - It was at this moment the controller knew… he f--d up
@FoxDren
@FoxDren 3 жыл бұрын
2:59 correction: "any ways you perform" should be "any way, shape, or form"
@krashd
@krashd 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, but auto translators are not infallible and those phrases can be almost identical in some accents, particularly Irish.
@ericyoon1342
@ericyoon1342 3 жыл бұрын
Did the tower get the phone number to call?
@LoowheezeBreeze
@LoowheezeBreeze 3 жыл бұрын
Mistakes happen... this certainly wasn't a life-threatening error... nice to see everyone maintained a respectful demeanor
@fuad4159
@fuad4159 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t they just call a tug from the beginning??
@BLACKMONGOOSE13
@BLACKMONGOOSE13 3 жыл бұрын
And that boys and girls, is how Little Johnny in the tower got the nickname "Wrong Way".
@RadioactiveSherbet
@RadioactiveSherbet 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe "Head-On" would be a good nickname, too. Dunno.
@nicksharp7972
@nicksharp7972 3 жыл бұрын
The guy who parks next to me on the ramp is ex USAF and has his call sign "Wrong Way" on his 172 hah.
@Mattribute
@Mattribute 3 жыл бұрын
One night years ago at JFK my captain stopped the taxi, and I asked why. He said “If we go past this intersection then we’ll be trapped by that A340.” Then I realized that he was a real man of genius.
@gordonmcknight8877
@gordonmcknight8877 3 жыл бұрын
Dang, as a Cincinnatian I'm quite disappointed I wasn't at the viewing area for this!
@SidestickPilot
@SidestickPilot 3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised they’re even approved to use reversers to push the aircraft back. Most companies including mine prohibit such use.
@KaitouKaiju
@KaitouKaiju 2 жыл бұрын
Probably not, just an off the cuff suggestion
@TheUKNutter
@TheUKNutter 3 жыл бұрын
That is why as an ATC the way you speak is SUPER important.
@rickrickard2788
@rickrickard2788 3 жыл бұрын
What was that old song.... oh yeah.. "Shake down, Break down, you're busted!". Everything caught on either video or audio these days- have to watch yourselves!
@drforjc
@drforjc 3 жыл бұрын
Detroit's own "Rockin' Robert" Seger!
@OfficialUSKRprogram
@OfficialUSKRprogram 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine fucking up once and your mistake is immortalized here, lol Thank god nobody was recording my first controlled approach
@skeletonwguitar4383
@skeletonwguitar4383 3 жыл бұрын
The internet might find it, eventually... ...we must find it
@deephorizon1365
@deephorizon1365 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@bg6b7bft
@bg6b7bft 3 жыл бұрын
Planes are like dogs. You want them sniffing butts, not facing off.
@DLB19901107
@DLB19901107 3 жыл бұрын
This...this is deep lol
@tollboothjason
@tollboothjason 3 жыл бұрын
But planes need to socially distance while sniffing airplane butt
@pistonburner6448
@pistonburner6448 3 жыл бұрын
You got your dogs for different reasons than I did, buddy... Is there a certain breed for that?
@tjsynkral
@tjsynkral 3 жыл бұрын
Even making the suggestion of doing a power-back with no marshallers watching is pretty crazy. Pilots should've said "hell no" to that.
@statikcitten9
@statikcitten9 3 жыл бұрын
Scrolling fast thru the comments and misread this as "...Doing a power-back with no marshmallows watching..." Gave myself a good laugh😆
@cmotdibbler4454
@cmotdibbler4454 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the taxiway debris it is going to kick up and feed into the engines...
@robertgary3561
@robertgary3561 3 жыл бұрын
Well that controller won’t make that mistake a second time.
@emptiester
@emptiester Жыл бұрын
The animation is pure gold. The way the plane icons square up, stop, and pause is too good lol
@AccountInactive
@AccountInactive 3 жыл бұрын
God this feels like my trucking days. "You got plenty of room to get into there driver!" Armchair dispatchers telling you what you're able to do.
@zach6800
@zach6800 3 жыл бұрын
Mistakes will always happen, the ATC has a difficult job. But man the feeling of inconveniencing several hundreds of people at once must suck hard.
@adriansrealm
@adriansrealm 3 жыл бұрын
You sure AirforceProud95 wasn't one of those pilots?
@greenefieldmann3014
@greenefieldmann3014 3 жыл бұрын
"Tower, I'm gonna need you to press ALT+F4."
@stanleyharrell6009
@stanleyharrell6009 3 жыл бұрын
@@greenefieldmann3014 😂😂😂That was good!!!
@adriansrealm
@adriansrealm 3 жыл бұрын
What we need is slew mode
@charlieinsingapore
@charlieinsingapore 3 жыл бұрын
You missed the golden opportunity to insert a Spongebob "ten... minutes... laterrrr" slide in there!
@Panhead49EL
@Panhead49EL 3 жыл бұрын
lol, CVG is a busy airport too. His buddies must've roasted him hard that night after work.
@user-ll8be9vt4u
@user-ll8be9vt4u 3 жыл бұрын
And probably will be for a long time
@lisanadinebaker5179
@lisanadinebaker5179 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not nearly as busy as it once was, and it is a nice airport. There is an abandoned concourse with over 90 gates sitting in the middle of the field that used to hub all the Comair flights. We have picked up some business in recent years, and freight is doing well, but the Delta/NW merger took CVG from 3 concourses down to one not completely filled.
@user-ll8be9vt4u
@user-ll8be9vt4u 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisanadinebaker5179 I remember flying in and out of there and taking the bus to that terminal.
@Panhead49EL
@Panhead49EL 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisanadinebaker5179 Thank you. I was just going on all the big cargo I see going there on FlightRadar
@mikesparks3216
@mikesparks3216 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisanadinebaker5179 that concourse and the two original terminals have all been torn down. Only the newest terminal and 2 concourses are left.
@JosephLedbetter
@JosephLedbetter 3 жыл бұрын
This happened at CVG recently? For some reason it's a little more amusing knowing it's right across the river from me.
@univibe23
@univibe23 3 жыл бұрын
Next time I have a bad day...I'll remember ground.
@jayschafer1760
@jayschafer1760 3 жыл бұрын
When I have a bad day, I remind myself of the famous and very good surgeon who performed one surgery where he caused a 300% mortality rate (not a typo - source: www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/10/time-me-gentlemen-the-fastest-surgeon-of-the-19th-century/264065/ ). Puts my screwups into context for sure.
@stevensnails1510
@stevensnails1510 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have this atc game on my psp, and this has happened more than id like to admit
@lepton_01
@lepton_01 3 жыл бұрын
Someone got a call.
@B3Band
@B3Band 3 жыл бұрын
"Hey Tower, i've got a number for you to copy"
@whos1st
@whos1st 3 жыл бұрын
Well - a mistake that was handled in a professional manor. No cursing or D1ck swinging just pilots who took care of business. I like it.
@pistonburner6448
@pistonburner6448 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Envoy 4078's pilot snatched a parking spot from in front of the controller's nose that morning. This was payback.
@kamyagupta4030
@kamyagupta4030 3 жыл бұрын
great patience 👍
@gamolgallofin1012
@gamolgallofin1012 3 жыл бұрын
"Well boys, it was a good run here at the tower. See you when I see you. Bye"
@rosem7568
@rosem7568 3 жыл бұрын
Hahhahahaha your sense of humour reminds me of James Asquith YT videos...check them out!
@KuvDabGib
@KuvDabGib 3 жыл бұрын
Now i know why they make ATC towers so high - so when this happens controller can simply open the window and jump to end up is misery.
@Ryan-719
@Ryan-719 3 жыл бұрын
Awwww cmon you can throw the reverses on!
@Ryan-719
@Ryan-719 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, too much room to go backwards? What does that meanv
@MSRTA_Productions
@MSRTA_Productions 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-719 Good question. Also they would burn fuel if they set the reversers
@photoballa
@photoballa 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-719 he's saying it's too big of a distance for him to reverse thrust all the way to get behind the intersection again
@Ryan-719
@Ryan-719 3 жыл бұрын
@@photoballa oh! Didn’t think that would be a thing I guess? If tower snd ramp control can see him. Oh well!
@photoballa
@photoballa 3 жыл бұрын
as reverse thrust is highly inefficient, fuel costly and has so little power.
@jimandmandy
@jimandmandy 3 жыл бұрын
LGB GND put me in a similar situation, nose to nose with a cargo 767. We didnt say anything and waited for GND to notice, about two long minutes. I was able to turn around since I was in a Cessna.
@ghstark
@ghstark 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the two tugs got in standoff back at the ramp?
@friendlyfire3412
@friendlyfire3412 3 жыл бұрын
0:28 OH! YOU'RE APPROACHING ME! INSTEAD OF RUNNING AWAY YOU'RE COMING RIGHT TO ME! Other plane : I cant headbutt you without coming closer. -You gonna ask whats is this. This is a something gamers called "Meme". It was on anime called "JoJo Blizzare advantures season 3." The first one plane reference guy was "Dio" and "other plane" guy is named "Jotaro" . This is a reference from that anime.
@UdayKiranIITB
@UdayKiranIITB 3 жыл бұрын
Envoy: you turn Delta: no you Gnd: aah fu*k
@nathanalbright
@nathanalbright 3 жыл бұрын
Aww, s***, here we go again.
@americanrambler4972
@americanrambler4972 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen the mad dogs and 727s use reverse thrust and back up out of the gate at some airports in the past with just a man standing in front of the plane plugged into the intercom port in in the nose. Are they no longer able to do that with today’s planes? When I was a little kid, we were on a 707 at a gate at Love Field in Texas and they pulled to far forward into the gate, and used reverse thrust to nudge the plane back into the correct parking position. As a little kid, I loved it! Hearing those engines wind up a tad, then watching the wing spoilers pop up when he stepped on the brake or what ever. They repeated the process about 3 times before they were satisfied and shut everything down. Will never forget that event.
@EZurg
@EZurg 3 жыл бұрын
S*** happens everybody handled it pretty well that's what we're supposed to do when we are adults.
@michaelhall9138
@michaelhall9138 3 жыл бұрын
I was working ground at SLC when Western earned the coveted Golden Towbar Award! I tried to tell him to wait for his gate but he thought he knew better. He must have forgot that gates B4 & B6 were reversed or it was his 1st time at SLC. As it was the ramp I had no real control, but I was just trying to prevent what ended up happening.
@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-
@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.- 3 жыл бұрын
We got a standoff at Tango.
@jayschafer1760
@jayschafer1760 3 жыл бұрын
I was just waiting for one of the pilots to start playing the Jeopardy music or the Wild West shootout music over the radio. Thank goodness they were professional about it.
@FencerPTS
@FencerPTS 3 жыл бұрын
Woops! The rare mistake! Glad everyone stayed calm and worked the problem.
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